The Daily Zeitgeist - Forecasting The 2020s Using The Roaring 1920s

Episode Date: August 15, 2020

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Thank you, Mazda. And the joy Mazda. Thank you, Mazda. And the joy of driving. Thank you, Mazda. You know what they did? They said, look, we're on the precipice of a historic event. Who do we get to talk about this? To educate the masses? To discuss their visions

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I know. Look, I'm trying to be a little cocky. Yeah, yeah. But much love to Mazda because, as you know, it's always a family thing with them. So, yes, whenever they're like, hey, what's your thoughts? Oh, well, we got them. We got them.

We've got some ideas about this because, you know, right now with the pandemic going on, I feel like a lot of people are thinking, oh, we're stuck inside. I feel I feel like I need to get out. I feel like I need to break out and things are not the same. There's a lot of built up energy that people have. Things are not the same. There's a lot of built-up energy that people have. And just not even ironically, just like clockwork, it's like let's maybe go back literally almost 100 years and see that, okay, we're going through a very similar thing,

very similar energy swirling around, people being very uncertain about their futures and what is normal and what could be normal. And yeah, it's an interesting thing to talk about. Pandemics can't keep us down. Worldemics can't keep us down world wars can't keep us down uh and usually after events like this historic uh challenges we'll call them uh you know the the human race comes out of it with a burst of creativity with a burst of uh democratic you know movements and really uh kind of interesting things

so we're gonna we're gonna talk about that um but just specifically to what you were talking about there are certain things that i miss from my old life pre-pandemic life like grocery shopping was something that i would miss like going out to the grocery store and just you know going through oh because that was like your thing like yeah it was like my yeah and i don't miss that at all is it turns out of just sort of it feels like the stakes are higher or it's just more of like it's it the reasons for doing it are different like it's purely to get out there and yeah i think it's just a little more stressful right and i like i different. Like it's purely to get out there and provide more stressful. Right. And I like,

I don't know. It's just not as when I look back on it, it's like after a week, when I look back on grocery shopping, I'm not like, man, that was, that was great.

I also think I was shopping. I also think I've just found like really enjoyed spending time with the family. And that's not a thing where I can bring, you know, the kids along with me to go grocery shopping anymore. Um, but driving is definitely, uh, getting out on the open road with the, with the missus and the boys is, uh, it's been awesome, man. It's been so fun.

is uh it's been awesome man yeah it's so hard it really i mean and look i know i'm where this episode has been brought to you by master but like straight up uh the day before everything locked down mazda was like in the build-up they they let me you know drive around a 2020 cx9 and it was just so funny because like the car got delivered and i'm like i think everything's about to shut down in the like in at least la and the state of california so it's a very bittersweet moment but then i realized i'm like oh this is like the thing that is going to get me to like just see sunlight feel uh like the the fresh air on my skin and i was mobbing around this thing all over town i could not stop driving because it was like the one way i didn't have to feel you know guilty i wasn't putting anybody at risk i was being i'm obviously you were socially distant in a car

so i'm going to i'm driving up you know topanga canyon looking out at the ocean we went we were driving like just to torrance on a whim her majesty and i because i was like you know topanga canyon looking out at the ocean we went we were driving like just to torrance on a whim her majesty and i because i was like you know what buffy the vampire slayer is like her favorite tv show and i'm like i know they shot it at torrance high school let's just go let's just go drive around the city and see all the touring locations nothing better than just to do that in a car quick easy it felt like an activity so i'm i still i'm like i have this renewed joy or like at least acknowledge the freedom that really driving provides especially in la because traffic is a little bit less as the city adjusts to blocking down and it makes it so

much easier uh i'm really surprised as a like lifelong angeleno how i'm like you want to get in the car you want to go somewhere yeah it's like it's like thanksgiving you know thanksgiving weekend when you're in la everybody has left town and it's like ah this is what this is la would be the best town in the world if it was always like this if it was just it had the appropriate number of cars for the infrastructure yeah that um yeah it was for a little while there was like driving around in a actual car commercial because oh yeah you know how in car commercials there's like never any other cars on the road yes uh that's kind of what it felt like um you know right now i would normally be on the East Coast on a family vacation where we're in New Jersey. Pittsburgh, we fly there. So instead of doing that, this year, we are just taking some road trips.

Been to Big Sur. We went up to Mammoth Lakes. There's just a lot of really great like nature and this you know it's it's kind of like a challenge finding all the cool things to see that are within a you know six to eight hour drive since i got a four-year-old and a two-year-old they can't do much more than that's pretty good though eight hours in like an eight hour drive with two young children a lot of stops for a lot of stops yeah my my two-year-old is uh we we have to get it so his blood is mostly drama mean before we start driving because he oh gets motion sickness oh yeah the poor the poor young ones you hate to see yeah but you know the way i drive man tearing around them corners uh i just feel i'm right now i'm a little bit spoiled because i've driven a cx9 a cx30 i

went back to my equally uh brilliant 2015 mazda3 but i'm a little bit longing for those drives in those cars because it really helps re-engage your sense of like mobility uh you know especially when a time like this when you have uh limited options to stimulate yourself but also a lot of road to cover and again we have to say that despite all like sort of the darkness that surrounds like what's happening now the thing that's really good to focus on is that everyone is looking forward to getting out of this and doing something different that feels good, that feels better than before. And we only have just amazing examples from history to reinforce that idea that a lot of people, despite a lot of write-ups you read, and even the things we even discuss on the show, feels very doomy and gloomy. But these are sort of these moments where we realize that we're

actually just sort of changing things a bit. And yes, there is a lot of pain and suffering, but on the other side of that is that it forces us to innovate and look at things differently. Yeah. So let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we're going to talk about some parallels, what happened in the 1920s, and how that can inform where we're headed. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times

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listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and uh so one of the things that uh you know, just doing some light research on the 1920s that jumped out is just that it seemed to be like sort of a democratization of a bunch of different things. It was like the democratization of being able to travel, like transport, essentially. Like cars were invented. Were invented in the 1920s, right? No, they were not. But they became, first of all, roads became like much better in the 1920s. That was like a major, you know, the American economy had a little pocket change, a little extra money to spend. little extra money to spend uh they spent some of that on improving the roads and also ford uh you know built a or started making cars a little bit more affordable the model t sold for uh 490

in 1914 whoa all right money bags about one quarter of the cost of what it had cost before and then it just like slowly got lower and lower until more and more people, I think by the end of the 20s, there were 23 million people driving. It's kind of a bigger deal than I realized. When you just think about... In the past, you had to wait for the train to arrive to get the news. You had to wait for somebody to bring drop it off the newspaper to you and you know they had to wait for somebody to bring it to them so you were like really relying on a massive you know supply chain just to get the news right um and now you could drive to a place to to get the news and information was just traveling at a less controlled, more democratic way.

And it was also like the radio started popping out a little bit more. Do you think people were doing that as a flex? Where they were like, oh, you know what? I'm going to go drive and get that newspaper so I can laugh when Harold finds out about what happened after dinner, which is lunch or whatever they were calling it back then. I don't know why. That's one of the things I always get fixated on from the old times. I'm

like, wait, what's dinner? And then there's supper. Oh, I didn't even know that. This was in books. And again, I'm not accurately describing this, but it's just the idea that I just like the concept of supper. All that to say that I derailed that point just to talk about books and again i'm not uh i'm not accurately describing this but it's just the idea that uh i just like the concept of supper all that to say that i derailed that point just to talk about the word supper you still call it supper right oh yeah you always you use it as a variable a lot of the time you're like guys let's sup yeah or i just as a greeting i'm like supper supper man yes uh the flapper and suffrage movement uh were you know some theories are that it was based on young people specifically young women seeing world war one and like what a mess it causes when you just let adult men take like make all the decisions for everyone right uh and so that

was a big thing there was also uh you know prohibition pushed people into the underground right so yeah well and i think too and then that gives way to like the rise of jazz music and you know one of the great greatest american art forms is born out of uh the 20s and these are the kinds of things i'm like man you think about how like sort of gloomy and dark it the experiences for people to be looking at just a devastating world war and then a you know an devastating pandemic that like no one had ever seen and then still just like renewed sense of like let's let's get together and yes alcohol is illegal but you know what there's this good music and maybe we got to take a little risk because at this point we don't have that much time anymore there's just like this there's like i don't know there's just

an extra quality of life to a lot of this era that i feel like is very unique like it's it's it's because it's it's position in relation to the spanish flu and world war one where it's you know they were doing a lot in the 20s you know to the point we've figured that out by the 30s that uh you know got a little out of hand but there is like this sort of idea of like this like explosion of life and energy and creativity that's really fascinating yeah i mean i do think the one thing that uh we're seeing that's different right now is that like we're having our economic collapse at the beginning of the 20s whereas they had theirs they were just like you know flying blind on a rocket motorcycle just you know right right feeling like invincible yeah they're just like anything is possible anything is possible put some wings on this thing man maybe we'll get

airborne i don't know um but yeah so i mean it's's you like just the cover charge for going out was you're going to break the law because alcohol is illegal and everybody's still trying to have a social life. So, you know, you have the speakeasies. It just lets people be a little bit less buttoned up and allowed. Yeah. lets people be a little bit less um buttoned up and allows yeah but there's it just really it shows you even if it's illegal to hang out it's like you know what we're let's or not illegal to hang out but to like imbibe and socialize in the normal way there's just this just insatiable appetite for it i'm just curious like, how this will affect sort of our, you know, the next phase of socializing to like, what a, like how we look at a nightclub or what the value is in a nightclub, you know, like if we're discovering, cause I'm finding myself

finding other ways to like replace, you know, the old ways of like consumer culture activity that I used to do, which is like go to a bar, these other things and just find, you know the old ways of like consumer culture activity that i used to do which is like go to a bar these other things and just find you know the the peace at home or just like having like really great conversations on zoom and things like that i found you know like i don't know if there's almost going to be like a minimalist 20s happening yeah where we're like shedding a lot of it because yeah to your point like we're sort of reversing the sequence where the opulence and excess i mean has been going on for a minute but now it's really starting to you know the uh lack of uh sort of economic equality starting to show itself but in that we're also very much simplifying things because of the pandemic it's

just it it, it really, I'm curious to know if we were just like, yeah, let's just do some book reading. Like let's just be near each other. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like by a fire.

Yeah. People hanging in their yards with other people, like more one-on-one. I feel like conversation gets foregrounded a little bit more than it does at a, at a loud bar where you're having to like shout over the bon jovi um right or just like bars that i hang out with yeah you go to your dueling piano bars you don't have to go to those anymore right but it is kind of like this thing where i'm almost like hey come over so we can just like talk yeah like and you can like you know hang out in my like backyard and we can be

socially distant. And I'm just having a conversation versus before, be like, where you want to go? Should we go to see this thing? Go eat there? And it's just more like, I really enjoy this really meaningful human contact. Yeah. Whether it is going on a day trip on a day trip with like friends and, you know, that allows you to stay outdoors. I do feel like there's, yeah, there's mindfulness about

what you do. It's not, we can't just go to the same places we used to go to or like meet up at a restaurant. So you have to like kind of come up with your own plan, plan a picnic, you know, plan a, figure out a great place. Like I just found out about this river that you can go to with your family that you just go and hang out and sit on some rocks in the river and the kids chase bugs. We're going to do that this weekend. The LA River, yeah. Yeah, exactly.

If you've seen Terminator 2, you know the river i'm talking about or greece great drag racing there i mean iconic river iconic right um yeah so i mean it's it's planning it's being more intentional i could see all that stuff happening and then you know what one of the parallels that i see is in the 1920s there were these uh dances that were happening at these like speakeasies and stuff like the charleston and you know all these dances that are associated with flappers and then you know we're seeing with the like obviously social media has been around for uh over a decade now but at least two years oh Oh, we're going to see, we're going to start to see a time where there won't be a, like every celebrity who is in the prime of their like career will have come

up like in a world with social media. And then you also have like the rise of Tik TOK and like dances on Tik TOK. So you can kind of see the savage challenge the new charleston i believe so okay yeah i believe it yeah i'm sure there were some can you imagine like like 70 years from now like people dress up like it's the aughts and these are like the 10s or 20s and are just like doing this savage challenge and like, whoa, man. I remember my grandma used to cut a rug to this one. Because you see people doing it now. I mean, I think it's probably inevitable, right?

And that really will be a strange moment. Yeah. All right, let's take one more break and we'll be right back to close it out. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close

to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.

Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Some people won't give you the real talk on drugs, but it's time we know the facts. Fentanyl is often laced into illicit drugs and used to make fake versions of prescription pills. You can't see it, taste it, or smell it. Suppliers mix fentanyl into their products because it's potent and cheap,

and the dealer might not even know. Keep yourself and others safe by knowing the real deal on fentanyl into their products because it's potent and cheap. And the dealer might not even know. Keep yourself and others safe by knowing the real deal on fentanyl. Get the facts. Go to realdealonfentanyl.com. This message is brought to you by the Ad Council. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.

My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere starting September 25th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you.

I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110.

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that got kicked off in the 20s that I think is related to the people being able to drive wherever they wanted. Mount Rushmore, the idea of just carving a bunch of giant faces into the side of a mountain. And just generally the whole tourist trap culture of America, which is one of my favorite things about America, that all kind of kicked off in the 20s

yeah i'm also thinking of like flagpole sitting in the 20s like what what's our what's our flagpole sitting of now for people who don't aren't aware of what flagpole sitting it was just a old a fad back in the mid 20s starting in the mid 20, of just somebody sitting on top of a pole or a flagpole for a long time. It was just like an endurance, like a flex. Like, oh, yeah, I'm going to sit on this flagpole for 40 days or however many long. I think someone did, I guess someone, 439 days. Really? That was in the 30s.

That was the longest someone had done but in the 20s you're talking about the more advanced flagpole sitting the fourth fourth wave flagpole sitting it was actually fifth wave yeah this is in the 80s but in in the 20s i think at the time it was like 12 days or 17 days the first guy was just like i did it for 13 hours and then it was like i'm i'm gonna just top that yeah yeah i think i'm wondering what that i feel like it's similarly the sort of anybody can become famous sort of thing like now instead of um that i mean that was kind of people's reaction to movies too it was like there's so many more famous people now. It's not just like a handful of people and then whoever pays attention to plays.

Now movies are rising and there's all these glamorous people that you can see on the big screen. Movies back then were really big screen. But that also gave rise to the cosmetics cosmetics industry people were trying to look like movie stars um oh interesting yeah but i so with flagpole sitting it's like well there's you know anyone it's a thing that anyone can do yeah sure louis armstrong's a great trumpet player but i can sit on this flagpole for 13 hours but jazz is so interesting because it's like yeah you can with like before wasn't it all big band stuff so like jazz you just had to get like four talented musicians so it's again like bringing it down to like

the level of individual talent as opposed to you know needing to get a small battalion of people who have like really expensive instruments who are reading like very rigid music off of sheets like sheet music you know and like the thing with jazz and improvisation is like that's truly like the you know purest form of getting down you know on your instrument is to just be like what's the chart what are the chord changes i'll take it from here i don't know where my the fingers are going to take me and what notes i'm going to hit but that's just what i'm going to get out and i think that's what made that music so interesting too is because it was sort of it wasn't following sort of the same patterns of previous like art forms just felt something like really fluid and full of life so you know and shout out

to the jazz the jazz performers of our day the comedic improvisers our uh yeah our totally uh louis armstrong's and cannonball not cannonball, but you know, you get it. Yeah, I don't. I don't know who Cannonball Adderley is. Oh, Jack. Is he a flagpole sitter? No, saxophonist. Another example of sort of the Harry Houdini, the rise of Houdini was during the 20s. And that's, again, like a thing that was sort of a birthday party trick that became like he became the most famous person on the planet in the 20s.

Babe Ruth, you know, it was Andy Bar. Yeah, it was the rise of the celebrity. It was like an era of celebrity worship. Yeah. celebrity it was like an era of celebrity worship yeah and i guess maybe it's weird like we have it's almost like we're at this point where we're actually maybe headed in the opposite direction of the 20s but we're just intersecting at this weird point where we're like wait are we in the 20 are we are we also doing the different part but it's interesting because the energetically it's similar but it's also like the things that rose up at that time were like are maybe now ebbing um which is really interesting to think

about because i think celebrity worship as we've seen has become really like has gone on the decline in just the last six months very very aggressively but at the same time we're like embracing these other things that feel a little bit more pure and substantive. So, yeah, I mean, we're learning the best kind of 20s. It's interesting because the like radio was becoming a thing. Also, loudspeakers like that's how long ago was was prior to this. If you wanted to give a speech that a lot of people heard, you had to speak loudly and like stand on a tall thing. you had to speak loudly and stand on a tall thing. And then the loudspeaker became,

I think the Magnavox company received its greatest recognition in 1919 when President Woodrow Wilson gave a speech in front of 50,000 people. Prior to that, people were like, did you hear about this new technology where one man can speak to 50,000 people? No. But it's sort of you're like if if we think of it as you know we we tend to just group things into well that's the 20th century so it's 1900 to the year 2000 but if we actually like gauge it as like 1920 up through 2020 that would make more sense as like a grouping of years because that was the age of celebrity it was the age of you know leaders being able to i don't know reach a bunch of people and just kind of dictate it like the guy who invented the loud

speaker later regretted it because he saw how dictators used his technology right so you know once we figure out this whole social media thing maybe maybe jack dorsey will be like i regret it well like zuckerberg yeah i mean that's the sort of thing that like the inventors of social media you you'd hope that they eventually come around to the fact that there there were some real problems with it technology is being manipulated uh in ways that are harmful to uh society but um you know there's no reason that once people take uh responsibility for those sorts of things that we wouldn't see that change wouldn't see like a thing where we can leave the era of celebrity in the past right um and maybe you know like the black plague well some people think it ended serfdom uh but it was really just the the labor pool became lower and serfs were able to bargain better so maybe this can be the age where workers can also help get together and get their

fair share as well i mean it's just like at the end of the day whether or not it's like going to be a repeat of that or a different version what we know is there is this is some kind of punctuation um right and with and after that the possibilities are endless i choose to be optimistic yeah i mean abraham lincoln said the best way to uh get the future you want is to choose it so heck yeah heck yeah man yeah abe so i mean that that is kind of a i think a good place to close is just that we are coming to the end of a very coherent like themed uh century and now it's our we have the ability to choose where we

take it next one last thing is that Mickey Mouse was invented in the 20s Steamboat Willie and at the time it was like seen as an adult thing and then it became like a giant like you know the biggest the inventor of

imagination for children what is your prediction for something that is like seen as one type of thing that could become like bigger in a different uh demographic just gonna put you on the spot there i don't know what's the thing that is like the instagram rip off of tiktok like reels right whatever yeah it's weird because i'm seeing so many adults use that because like so many adults weren't using tiktok right and they were on instagram so it's like the same thing like they weren't using snapchat but when you got stories now the the people are using the stories and now i'm just saying like older people use reels in like the weirdest ways but i'm just i don't know in my mind i'm just being like that's the thing for younger people that adults are using now uh and okay they're

just having fun with it but i don't know what's gonna have that same sort of flip-flop where they're gonna be like adults used to love that? Right. Huh? Yeah, I don't know either. I don't know. I don't know. You guys decide. You guys get to figure it out. Let us know.

What do you think, bro? Let us know in the comments, guys. Yeah. And also shout outs to Mazda for allowing us to bring you a nice Saturday episode filled with our visions of the future and our analyses. And please, y'all, go check out the new Mazda CUV lineup, okay? Yeah, you. I'm going to tell you firsthand, never been in a better car. Miss it every day.

Do I cry tears every morning thinking about that car? Maybe I do. Is it because of the exterior design? Maybe it is. Is it because the leather seats are so buttery and I have never had a car with leather seats before? Yes, that's it also. Does it take us 20 minutes to get started recording Daily Zeitgeist because he's crying about this every day?

Yes. He does sometimes. And does Jack violate his co-host's trust by saying stuff like that in the branded episode? Yes, he does. But worry not because Mazda will keep you good and you can trust them. Yeah, yeah. And that's going to do it for this special Saturday edition of the Daily Zeitgeist. We will talk to you all soon.

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