The Daily Zeitgeist - Fossil Fuels Ad Ban? Big Mac’s Big L 06.07.24

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

In episode 1689, Jack and Miles are joined by host and creator of HeidiWorld: The Heidi Fleiss Story, Molly Lambert, to discuss… Ohhhh Yeahhhh We Should Start Banning Ads From The Fossil Fuel Indust...ry, McDonald’s Loses Big Mac Trademark In EU After Bullying Irish Fast Food Chain and more! 'The Night Belongs to Michelob' Commercial w/ Genesis (1986) Ohhhh Yeahhhh We Should Start Banning Ads From The Fossil Fuel Industry McDonald’s Loses Big Mac Trademark In EU After Bullying Irish Fast Food Chain McDonald's loses Big Mac trademark after bullying tactics against upstart rival backfire McDonald's loses EU trademark for chicken Big Macs 'Like a Big Mac But Juicier': Burger King renames sandwiches to troll McDonald's Hungry Jack's Big Jack 'not deceptively similar' to McDonald's Big Mac in burger case, court finds 9 Juicy Facts About the McDonald's Big Mac LISTEN: Love Heart Cheat Code by Hiatus KaiyoteSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I answered the questions that you're supposed to answer for this show this time what yeah that's right I did my I did my homework can you believe it the fuck I'd not get off I don't approve yo sign out I don't want this mommy on the show we gotta at least at least smoke a blunt or something right now and just level it out like nope gotta be ready for my other podcast meeting later fuck molly i know i'm a working guy working trying to make me look bad you're trying to make me feel bad no be it on top of shit again yeah all right all right i like that podcasting is big business and you gotta stay on your toes. That's what I always say. Oh, shit. I'm Jess Casavetto,
Starting point is 00:00:52 executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline
Starting point is 00:01:56 from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think
Starting point is 00:02:13 it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 341 episode 5 of their daily production of i heart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is friday june 7th 2024 it's one of them counting dates six seven what's next? 8? Oh. No, 24. What's going on, Miles? Oh, sorry. It's just a lot going on, man.
Starting point is 00:02:51 6, 7, just thinking about that. It's also National Chocolate Ice Cream Day, World Caring Day, National Oklahoma Day, National Donut Day. Oklahoma. Oklahoma. And shout out to my real ones, the media OGs, because it's National fucking VCR Day. Okay. Get the fucking VCRs out. Get your Lamborghini-shaped tape rewinder machine out.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Get your VCRs out, because that's when I brainstorm. Thank you. The VCR, the fact that you could see all the little parts in there and how complicated it looked. It looked like a Terminator with an exposed Terminator in there. Just all the different gears and levers and things that were working in there. I was always impressed by that and also intimidated. I was like, I'm never going to fuck with one of these. Until I got on meth and then I started taking them apart and putting them back together.
Starting point is 00:03:41 That is when I found my true calling. There you go. I'd taken them apart and put them back together. That is when I found my true calling. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I've got plastic in my balls. My dick doesn't work the way that some say it used to. I could probably drink a lot less soda
Starting point is 00:03:59 or nothing at all. But you can't take my Baja blast. That's courtesy of Scouty on the Discord. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's got plastic all over, all up in them, from
Starting point is 00:04:15 the microplastics. Actually, I don't know, because the microplastic shit hit around the same time that the 3M story hit. Are the 3M Forever Chemicals microplastics shit hit around the same time that the 3M story hit? Are the 3M Forever Chemicals microplastics? Do we know? I don't know. I actually don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:32 We just talked about it. Why would we know, Miles? We only host a daily news podcast. They definitely show up together. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Well.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Whatever. Look, we're all plastics. I'm thrilled to be joined. Yeah. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Let's see. Wait, where was it? It's been six weeks till Halloween.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Gen Z really plans for early parties. Pumpkin before the 4th of July. This makes no sense Marseille, that you're sorry. That's also from Scouty. That's an exacto. On a tear. Yeah, yeah. There's another one I could have done. There was a Waterfalls one, but all that to say, six
Starting point is 00:05:19 point. That's what I did. I did the Waterfalls one. Was it not clear? Oh, no, no, no, no. no it was i think it's because it was added i was added in it i was like there's there must be a different one that oh shit but you know that was for you that's full that's fine man what do you say you don't want another guy's one you don't want another guy's bad man my bad scouty i didn't know i missed that you had made that That that was bespoke For Miles I'm the one with ED man
Starting point is 00:05:47 You're forgetting the lore of the show I thought it was a reference to our declining Sperm count That's not the dick working That's the balls working man But also shout out to everybody Because the food and wine article I refreshed it today
Starting point is 00:06:01 They still haven't fucking changed it I DM'd the author of the piece three times now with no response miles the author of the piece doesn't even remember that they wrote that like that's where we're at right now that's probably it we're in the quote on quote world of uh modern no copy editor journalism where they're like yeah you're just gonna be humiliated truly as a writer truly truly anyways speaking of as a writer we're thrilled to be joined by a brilliant talented writer and podcaster yes who's written for publications like the new york times the new yorker the new york review of books gq uh everybody's in la uh one of my favorite shows
Starting point is 00:06:42 of the past i don't know how long. Shit affected me. I now drive around LA listening to Wang Chung's To Live and Die in LA. Just imagine I'm in the intro to the show. Co-host of the legendary podcast Girls in Hoodies and Nightcall. Writer, creator, host of the legendary podcast
Starting point is 00:07:00 Heidi World, The Heidi Fleiss Story and soon to be writer, creator, and host of another legendary podcast. Please welcome back to the show, Molly Lambert! Hey, what's up, everybody? What's up, everybody? You said that in the rhythm of an air horn. It was like, what's up, everybody?
Starting point is 00:07:24 I was trying to think of a shot of your song. My song is named Das Ami Espresso. in the rhythm of an air horn. It was like, What's up, everybody? What's up, everybody? My song is made, That's That Me Espresso. Hey, guys, everybody. Welcome me. It's That Me Espresso. What's up? You hear my voice?
Starting point is 00:07:36 That's That Me. That's That Me Espresso. Are you off that espresso right now? I am off a little pure leaf unsweetened iced tea. That's That Me pure leaf unsweetened iced tea That's that me I just like saying that's that me
Starting point is 00:07:49 That's that me That's fun I like that Is that somebody's catchphrase Have you not heard Espresso by Sabrina Carpenter Song of the Summer Oh my god Jack I hear the song of the summer so many years after the summer is over. Jack, you got it.
Starting point is 00:08:06 That's that me espresso. If you want to be in touch. Oh, shit. You got to hear it. How do I? Hold on. Now I got to make sure we're bumping this. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Let's see. Super producer Justin says song of the summer. You definitely have. I'm sure. It's truly inescapable. Okay. We're hearing it right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I have heard this. It's that me espressoable. Okay, we're hearing it right now? Okay. I have heard this. Is that me espresso? I thought this was a collab. It sounds like a collaboration between Dua Lipa and a K-pop band. Jack, switch it up like Nintendo. That's you. Yeah, this is good. This is good.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Okay, you get it. This is good. I give it like Nile Rodgers vibes, too. People keep saying it's giving City Pop, too, which I agree a little bit. It's funny, though, like you people don't like you have to think of like the cause and effect of all these genres too like city pop is japanese pop trying to do what was happening in america r&b style which is anyway but yes city pop this is me being let me let me put my tiny fisherman's beanie cap on my little pedantic hat on yeah
Starting point is 00:09:02 you think that's City Pop? Wow. And that's where I need to check my fellow Japanese people. You know, we didn't create this. I mean, we created this sound, but sure, what were we trying to do? No, it is true, though. It's like the Billie Eilish album, too. It's like, sounds like Japanese music sounding like 1980s American music. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Made by Americans. Right. Americans. Thank you, Molly. Thank you. sounding like 1980s american music right right made by americans right americans thank you thank you that's what i'm talking about bring it back molly we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment you're gonna make me feel uncool in so many ways that's that me as far as by just making casual reference to things that i have to frantically google that's that you that's that you uh but before we get to that, a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the idea of banning ads from the fossil fuel industry,
Starting point is 00:09:52 which seems wild that it hasn't happened. We will talk about McDonald's attempt to protect the phrase Big Mac. They keep being like, you're sued because you said big something that rhymes with Mac and it keeps backfiring on them in ways that isn't enjoyable. All of that, plenty more.
Starting point is 00:10:12 But first, Molly, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? All right. Guess who did their research and isn't going to just be like, uh, hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I can't, I can't handle this. I did this last night. All right. Fuck, you really did. Wrote it down and everything. Okay. Here's what I looked up last night.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I looked up the song Tonight, Tonight, Tonight by the Phil Collins lead singer Era Genesis because I was hyper fixating on Phil Collins' Era Genesis. And I remembered it being a crazy song and it is a crazy song,
Starting point is 00:10:46 and it is a crazy song. And then I found out it was used in a 1986 Michelob commercial. And then I found out that there's a brand new song interpolating it that's in Bad Boys 4 Ride or Die. And it is a cover, like an interpolation cover of the song
Starting point is 00:11:03 by the Black Eyed Peas with becky g becky g and l alpha uh and then i watched the michelob commercial after and it it rocked wait how does what's tonight tonight tonight i'm not i'm not tonight tonight tonight let me just refresh please look up the Black Eyed Peas one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, now put on the bad boys for Black Eyed Peas one, please. Just look it up. Black Eyed Peas.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Is there a relationship between the Genesis one and the Black Eyed Peas one? Yeah, it's literally an interpolation of that song. Okay, got it. No, no, no. Okay, that sucks. I feel like I'm having a panic attack at a night club where everyone's wearing all white when i hear that song yeah that's what bad boys four is gonna be like right it's like yeah miami cocaine freakouts yeah i don't need that i don't
Starting point is 00:11:56 need that i lived it phil collins was like weirdly involved in miami vice right like he was in it like he was a character in miami vice like and and was involved in Miami Vice, right? Like, he was in it. Like, he was a character in Miami Vice. And was involved in the soundtrack and all that shit. The original TV show. What? Yeah, I was just thinking about how weird it is that Genesis was, like, such a big 80s coke band. Because before that, they were, like, a weird prog band. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I'm just refreshing my white music history here. Peter Gabriel was also in genesis yeah they were all in genesis uh phil collins was the drummer then peter gabriel left to go solo phil collins took over as the lead singer and then they had oh like a whole mtv era of genesis where these three really unphotogenic guys were just like in all these music videos yeah and like you would do big budget music videos when you like depending on how unphotogenic you are like you yeah i feel like i remember like high concept right and there's like a crazy michelob commercial uh that i was watching that's got tonight tonight tonight and it's like people
Starting point is 00:13:02 going out drinking michelob and then it keeps cutting back to genesis and it's like people going out drinking michelob and then it keeps cutting back to genesis and all the kind of like a it's not a song that i would associate with like going out having a good time we just look up the mic can you look up the michelob commercial look up genesis michelob commercial because it is like it's very it's very everybody's in la actually i was like man this is like the vibe dude it's a one minute long fucking they got a 60 second spot to this shit okay it was a super bowl commercial and they had to pay 15 000 for wow my god that's what i was doing last night guys belongs to michaelob wow that is i I'm so confused what that commercial even is.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Are they... Was it about one couple? Was it about a man who's a serial killer who's murdering all these people he's on dates with? That's part of why I was looking up the song is because I was like, is this song about murdering people? It feels like there's a bunch of Phil Collins songs where he where he's like a hit man or like about to murder somebody right right including in the air tonight people think it's like murder yeah but uh this one it turns out is about doing heroin which makes it even crazier that it's like in this little
Starting point is 00:14:15 i think it's like a story song from the point of view of like a guy who's gonna it's like under the bridge it's like i'm gonna go out and do some heroin but it's like crazy for it to be like a party rock anthem right yeah it really doesn't feel it feels like kind of grim it's such a great it's a grim song anyway this was my journey last night yeah holy shit the comments the comment section on YouTube, also incredible. People being like, man, this commercial is my favorite. Man, the 80s rocked. Simply the best high school and college and all those parties. Yeah, doing late nights in NYC. And all those parties, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:58 You did not go to a single fucking party, fool. Also, that whole commercial was shot in Los Angeles. So I love the people were like makes me reminds me of new york yeah right no yeah downtown los angeles reminds you of new york city me too damn everything was epic back in the 80s if i knew what the music and tv slash hollywood would succumb to i would have slowed my life down some. We had it made back then. I guess we were having too much fun to notice. Damn, that person has the ability to slow time down.
Starting point is 00:15:31 That's fucking cool. Yeah, good for them. I would have slowed things down. I love- Going to 0.5 speed. YouTube comments on music videos are like the last- Pure place. Wholesome part of the MMI.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah, for sure. Right. are like the last wholesome part of the internet. There's always one guy who's like, I'm 15, but I love this music. Or I love when it's an old music video and someone's like, who else is watching in 2024? And people immediately
Starting point is 00:15:59 get in there. Yeah. People tell crazy stories. They're like, this was my first love's favorite song. She died in a boat accident. People tell crazy stories. They're like, this was my first love's favorite song. She died in a boat accident. Right. It's such a... Or to be like, interesting story about Phil Collins. My uncle used to be his drum tech.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Really nice guy, but fired him because my uncle was doing too much cocaine. It was probably his fault, but he sort of had impulse control. And then it's like a five paragraph thing and you're like oh thank you yeah genesis is just like that version of genesis so thoroughly drenched in the 80s and like just such a perfect like embodiment of that moment and like that video that that commercial like first of all mich Michelob being the beer. Dude, with those lava lamp bottles. Everyone drinking Michelob. Yeah, it really feels like everything
Starting point is 00:16:50 coming together. And then the 90s happened and they were so corny. No. The 90s were like, well, that's a fine song, too. I'm just obsessed. I can't dance.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I just am obsessed i can't dance uh i just i'm obsessed with kind of that era of like super expensive studio production yeah right you know yeah and and of these bands that were like weird british prog rock bands being like oh shit we got a billion dollar snare sound now okay what can we do with that right right yeah yeah sonically i think genesis definitely has a thing where it's like you're hearing every instrument and sound patch that people were using like just across their albums you're like no that was the sonic palette of the time yeah and i'm kind of i'm just like in a phil collins hyper fixation thinking about phil collins getting i might write something about this but thinking about kind of like loser rock like music about music where the main guy's kind of a is not cool yeah yeah who is the king of that for you oh billy joel thank you i was just gonna say billy joel
Starting point is 00:17:57 yeah and that's the reason that he's like not like he's just held in a different part of people's mind than like other cool yeah a rock star who's not cool yes like a guy who's like a rock star but you're like this guy's like a loser and his songs are about being a loser i'm really into that uh yeah right sitting at home and jacking off that's one of billy jill's songs is like you just sit at home and masturbate. It's like, damn, Billy Joel. What the fuck? And that's kind of cool to me. You guys know my favorite Billy Joel fun fact? What's that?
Starting point is 00:18:32 Piano Man is about Koreatown. Is it? What do you mean? He was playing a bar in Koreatown in LA? He was playing a bar in Koreatown. In LA? Yes, in LA. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:44 It was called The Executive Room. It wasn't Koreatown yet. It was in la yes in la in la it was called the executive room it wasn't koreatown yet it was mid-city it was like shitty like office job guys going to a bar after work and that's the bar guys and real estate novelists yes but you just like you assume that song is about like long island because or I just pictured, I always pictured the bar from Cheers for some reason. Right, but a picture of the bar from Cheers, but it's in Koreatown, and that's why every time in my head I'm like, sing us a song, it's
Starting point is 00:19:14 Koreatown. Sing us a song tonight. But he was like a gigging piano man in LA, trying to be like a session guy, and then he would work nights at this bar in Koreatown yeah damn see always coming with the lore I was actually there that night yeah you were there you were describing I was that'd be funny we were like watching the Michelob commercial and
Starting point is 00:19:36 like Jack walked by we're like yeah what the fuck how old are you that's why you don't know espresso yeah you look full grown in this commercial you? That's why you don't know Espresso. 80s vampil. Yeah, you look full grown in this commercial. You got kind of an 80s look to you. Just saying. Oh, man. If I get like the... With the right glasses and sunglasses?
Starting point is 00:19:54 I was really blown away by his hairstyle. Like he just has the big like mullet, but it's like kind of feathered in the back and then like kind of receding up top. That could be you. The Phil Collins. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm going to just bring a picture of that the next time.
Starting point is 00:20:11 But yeah, that's what, what animal does Phil Collins remind you of? Like a lemur. I was going to say koala bear. It really gives me koala vibes for some reason. Interesting. Yeah. Anyways. This is the Phil Collins hour.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Or like a turtle. It was the Collins hour. Now with no hair, he looks like a turtle. Is he bald now? Fully bald? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He bald.
Starting point is 00:20:35 He bald. I mean, you knew what it was. He had this Smeagol mullet back then. It's not like he was going to recover. Turn that shit around. On point. He was fully on the right drugs and in the right places for that that moment in the 80s yeah like the fact that they were just
Starting point is 00:20:53 like i guess you should be in miami vice man that's right man singing all these songs about how every night is the worst night of your life yeah right exactly all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and do some overrated underrated. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
Starting point is 00:22:01 It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for
Starting point is 00:22:41 advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote, what is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first,
Starting point is 00:23:23 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:23:48 She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:24:09 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And Molly Lambert We do like to ask our guest What is something you think is underrated? Alright, came up with an answer that's not food this time
Starting point is 00:24:33 Which I've never done before Oh, okay Underrated? Jack just got up and left Jack got up and left because I offended him too much Oh no, he's back He heard no food takes What the fuck is even happening?
Starting point is 00:24:45 Okay, what is it now? What are we even doing here? Underrated? Secondary colors. Okay. What's a second? Purple, green. Purple.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Educate me. Green. Orange. Orange. Overrated? What the fuck? Primary colors. Red, yellow, blue.
Starting point is 00:25:02 There you go. I didn't even know. How the fuck does that shit even break down like what what are the primary colors are the ones you can't break down into other colors secondary colors are the ones you get from combining primary colors oh that makes sense i have magnetiles currently that i look through all the time i'm trying to show my baby i'm like look look at the green and yellow, dude. That's blue right there. Uh-huh. Green and yellow isn't blue, Miles.
Starting point is 00:25:27 What is it? Miles, you're having some... You're way off on this color stuff, man. Bro, you can't make blue. It's a primary color. Oh, wait. Blue and yellow is green. That's the one. That is my kid.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Man, yo, my kid is about to be fucking embarrassed at preschool. Oh, go. That is my kid. Man, yo, my kid is about to be fucking embarrassed at preschool. Oh, man. Shit. But like that, yeah, primary and secondary colors take up such a big part of my brain. Really? Yeah, it's just like one of the first things I learned. So I just feel like.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Clearly not me, bro. I didn't learn a goddamn thing. I was just like red, yellow, and blue get all the shine. Yeah. Purple, green, and orange doing a lot of lifting behind the scenes. Oh, bro. I didn't learn a goddamn thing about that. I was just like, red, yellow, and blue get all the shine. Purple, green, and orange doing a lot of lifting behind the scenes. Amazing colors. Especially green. Probably my favorite color. Me too.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I'm really coming around to green. I gotta tell you. I'm really coming around to green. Used to not fuck with it. I used to think it was a weird, nerdy-ass color. I don't know why like i think what colors what colors make up green miles yellow and blue hey look at this he's learning i love green and i love colors i'm a big big orange freak yeah i love that one too yeah yeah yeah yeah how do you get orange what's orange orange? Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Yellow and red. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Wow. Bang. How do you make purple? Blue and red. Blue and red. See, you're getting it. I remember that one because I remember fucking with my crayons and putting them together. I was like, what the fuck is going on right here when I put this, the blue on top of the red?
Starting point is 00:26:56 I'm also like, I'm pretty bad at color theory, actually. In my brief painting era, I could not figure out how the colors go together at all. So, you know. I got a fucking image bookmarked on my browser when I'm trying to figure out how to coordinate an outfit. I'm like, yeah, what the fuck does... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, this makes sense.
Starting point is 00:27:15 It feels like there should be more secondary colors to me. My brain has always thought it was weird that you can't combine to make... That there's only three. There's three primary and then three secondary, but you're combining, you know, anybody else?
Starting point is 00:27:29 No. Yeah. Jack, I'm making new color. I'm illiterate when it comes to color. So I don't know. The thing that really fucked me up because this is such a foundational part of my brain is that my kids came home from kindergarten. And we're like,
Starting point is 00:27:43 red's not a primary color. Actually, it's magenta. Magenta is the one that you can't make and were they learning to make television yeah i they have like changed how they teach it which is weird because it's like wait if if you're just worrying with like paints like magenta feels like the thing you can make with red and white a little bit of blue yeah wait i don't man look i'm i'm so lost i don't even need to i don't i'm like about it's just fun to think about colors guys i'm just uh thinking about i love it all the time yeah yeah what's something you think is overrated the primary that was kind of in there is overrated primary the primary is all is overrated. All right. Red, yellow, blue, especially like for little kids and stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I feel like they're like, you guys are too stupid to understand secondary colors. Here's a bunch of primary colors for you. Yeah. Yeah. Not for sure. Wait, what's the RGB scale like for projecting video and things like that? That's why I was saying maybe they're teaching your kids to make television because it's different with light right right right yeah because like in my weird la brain i was about to be like red green and blue because i was always
Starting point is 00:28:53 used to seeing those three lamps like on a projection tv or some shit or a projector back in like the 80s and shit but anyway let's move on now i know what it is and i can keep my child from being ignorant about primary colors. There you go. Breaking the cycle. Hanging out at the school being taught. You've got an AirPod in where we're telling you what to say
Starting point is 00:29:16 about the colors. Going to the playground like, y'all heard about green? Yeah. I think that man's trying to sell the kids cannabis over there. You don't know about that green? Green hits different. Green hits way different nowadays.
Starting point is 00:29:30 You feel me? Hey, well, one way that green is hitting different is with greenwashing. That's a transition to our first story. Wow, that's actually not bad. Let's make it illegal. Fuck it. Yeah, we should. I mean, greenwashing, such a powerful force in our society uh it's it
Starting point is 00:29:48 helped the fossil fuel industry constantly switch masks and go from like earth fucking destroyer company company to like we will put condoms on our oil refinery smokestacks that catch all the bad stuff we are good um and every time the conversation around fossil fuels like nears some kind of tipping point of like public opinion we get some new campaign where like bp is telling us it's like no we're gonna put a bunch of band-aids on the gulf coast so don't worry about that deep water horizon spill and actually we're not even bp anymore we're but beyond petroleum we just want you to think completely different about us or like how how Exxon was saying, like, they're using like algae based fuels that like we've never seen come to pass. Come on.
Starting point is 00:30:29 But like, I think these are all the things that made me feel better. I've been sleeping at night on these things. That's how I get to sleep now. Exactly. I mean, because those big algae farms that they put in that one BP commercial. I'm like, we're good here. We're fine. BP has our back back it's worse than
Starting point is 00:30:47 the exxon valdez anyway so there's also a recent study that showed that like there's a huge discrepancy between the actions of the companies the fossil fuel companies in real life and like what their ads say they are doing especially when it comes to things like they're like we're limiting expansion and like exploration it's like no they're. They're just putting that in a commercial to fucking get us to be like, everything's okay. So all of these little optics maneuvers are obviously made possible by the advertising industry that
Starting point is 00:31:13 has reaped billions in helping these companies seem a little less fucked up. But a few days ago, UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres called upon the world to enact a total ban on fossil fuel ads. And this obviously isn't like the be all and end all solution, but it certainly makes sense in terms of at the very least being able to like
Starting point is 00:31:33 muzzle these people. So we can have like legitimate conversations about the climate without some ad coming like, Hey, Hey, Hey, actually this petroleum is, is,
Starting point is 00:31:42 is the future for our children or whatever the fuck they try and do to combine it yeah excellent yeah yeah when they show you like oh we cleaned all the oil off this duck that we put the oil on oh thank god thank you palm olive yeah palm olive did it all but like this is what he said quote fossil fuels are not only poisoning our planet they're toxic they're toxic for your, your sector full of talking to advertisers, full of creative minds who are already mobilizing around this cause. They are gravitating towards companies that are fighting for our planet, not trashing it. I urge every country to ban advertising from fossil fuel companies. And many in the fossil fuel industry have shamelessly
Starting point is 00:32:22 greenwashed even as they have sought to delay climate action with lobbying, legal threats, and massive ad campaigns. They have been aided and abetted by PR and advertising companies. Mad Men fueling the Madness. Madness. All right. You had me until that one. Leave Mad Men out of this. He's trying to spit bars.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Get terrors with the pop culture bars. He said, I call on these companies to stop acting as enablers, stop taking on new fossil fuel clients from today, and set out plans to drop your existing ones. Now, I don't know how willingness, how the willingness
Starting point is 00:32:56 of the advertising sector will be to completely let go of that money. They've done that shit before. When you go back and look at magazines from the 80s, I'd say 50 to 60% of the ads were cigarettes. It was all cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Oh my God, and they all look so cool. They look so cool. I'm still smoking Virginia Slims. I just wanted to be like them in the commercials. You come a long way, baby. But yeah, cigarette companies were a major part of the advertising industry. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:29 That shit just went away. But the difference there was because of just a massive lot like settlement that the industry had to have that like it didn't come from legislation. That was like an agreement after this massive lawsuit where they were like part of the agreement was like, okay, we will also stop advertising. So you've essentially murdered hundreds of thousands of people a year. Yeah, this was like in the late 90s when that happened. Intentionally by lying.
Starting point is 00:33:53 It's so crazy also that like cigarette sales and kids smoking was going down for like years and years and years. Yeah. Then vaping came in. Yeah. Then like, y'all heard of vaping though? The thing is too, the like anti-vaping ads make kids want to vape because they're like i what's the new one's
Starting point is 00:34:13 like well there's just like this one that i got obsessed with that was like flavors hook kids that was like supposed to be about how they use like you know like cereal milk vape flavor it's all like you know fun candy flavors but all the anti-vape ads are like damn looks so fun milk vape flavor. It's all fun candy flavors. But all the anti-vape ads are like, damn, looks so fun to vape. Right. I don't even want to vape. And now I do from looking at this ad about how cool vaping is. They show a kid reviewing the flavors and being like, this one tastes like candy.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And this one tastes like cereal. And this one. And it's supposed to be like, look how insidious it is. But to a kid, you're just like, damn. Hold on, that one tastes like candy? Delicious. Yeah, they're all like, don't vape. It'll, it tastes too good and your parents will hate it.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah. And your parents don't think it's cool? And you'll do like really sick tricks with the smoke plumes. I did also see they're like they made it's like i don't vape but they made the vapes look so cool now too that it's like they just are like you kind of want one because they're so like sexy looking they're like these little little like candy looking things yeah they look like a little transponder like star trek transponder yeah they look like a little lip gloss they've got like a nice color always and then somebody was
Starting point is 00:35:23 telling me there's new ones that have a little led on them so that when you're vaping they make a little like rocket ship is going off on a little led screen fuck man i might have to start vaping again they got your ass but no i mean our ass yeah so maybe maybe what i'm saying is the oil companies could maybe be like yeah don't use oil you look at this cool guy driving natural glass right right natural gas yeah i think you're glass yeah they need glass i think for those vaping commercials they need their equivalent of like the woman who had the tracheotomy yeah you know what i mean back when like we were wet when they were serving us with those anti-tobacco ads yeah and she was like yeah i just need another cigarette and then like put that shit in her trach tube and i remember like oh yeah oh no you know oh yeah with the vape ones
Starting point is 00:36:16 they're like this shit tastes like candy look how thick these fucking clouds are and i'm like you know i mean there's no one being like i was vaping for three months and you know what i mean like and i don't want it to get there and there clearly are people who've had like lung issues but yeah there's just so much like you can you there's just so much shit of like you just tell the story of how they discovered climate change before anyone else and then decide to lie about it and like create this entire like it's so straightforward it shouldn't be a hard story to tell like yeah it does i think that's a good point that you would want it to be a dual offensive one cutting out their ability to advertise their bullshit or
Starting point is 00:36:56 and then yeah and then advertising like what they did so that people start getting appropriately outraged i think a big part of the problem is everyone's like, yeah, I feel guilty. I drank out of too many plastic straws in the 90s. And so it's my fault. The problem is they've made it so it's like you know that as an individual, you can't do anything. And that if they're not going to stop, Jeff Bezos' yacht and Taylor Swift's private jet or whatever, if they're not gonna stop like jeff bezos's yacht and taylor swift's private jet or whatever which they're not it's like none of the rest of us can do anything about that and that's the problem yeah my new thing is like hume was like man was not meant to fly i think yeah i
Starting point is 00:37:40 think hot air balloons i think yeah hot, hot air balloons. Oh, dirigibles? Wait, we're pro-dirigibles, baby. Dirigibles, famously safe. Yes, absolutely. The safest form. I think they just, you know, sheer numbers, not the most dangerous way to fly. But when they go up, it's bad. Have you ever seen Werner Herzog movie, The White Diamond, about this guy who just wants to build a dirigible.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And Werner Herzog keeps being like, you are going to die for a volley. It's literally like, oh, it's so good. It's like the guy's best friend died in a blimp crash from a blimp they built. And then the guy's like, I have to build another blimp and sail it to, like, honor my dead friend. And Werner Herzog is like, this is a folly. Yeah. You are going to die and you are going to kill me in the blimp with you, you fucking idiot. The futility of honoring your fallen friend by committing the same mortal drastic mistake.
Starting point is 00:38:43 It's a great movie. Gravity is trying to kill us at all times. I mean, that's, man should not fly. Yeah, I mean, I can get down with that. Maybe it'll make people
Starting point is 00:38:54 more patient. We're like, yo, bro, we can't fly, man. It's just going to take us. Like, flying's gotten so bad. Everybody just complains about how, what a nightmare it is
Starting point is 00:39:01 to go to the airport now. The thing that was once like a great innovation of technology, now all we hear about is how like the planes is to go to the airport now. The thing that was once like a great innovation of technology, now all we hear about is how like the planes are falling apart in the air. People are getting killed. Yeah, bring back the trains. I am for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I'm so mad lately about how there's not high-speed rail in California yet. I think they've been promising us since I was a child. I just want to get on a fucking train to San Francisco. That's fast. That's like a fast train. Every person who does that five corridor drive is sort of like, look, I either
Starting point is 00:39:35 pay a lot for a ticket and it ends up taking a lot of time going to an airport, getting on a plane, taking off, or I do the five corridor where it could be a fucking nightmare accident happened where I'm camping suddenly in my car or whatever. What's the five corridors?
Starting point is 00:39:52 I'm saying the five freeway, the five interstate. The five corridor. I thought you meant like, yeah, I thought you were really like the five. The five corridors, they have to unite and come together to unlock all the wisdom
Starting point is 00:40:05 upon humanity yeah exactly like five percent i'm like nine to five percent i'm about to fly corridors you know yeah the wisdom honor education yeah morals but like break break dancing graffiti yeah break dancing graffiti you know what i mean i'm seeing coming together the five corridors memes. Exactly. But like this obviously be tricky in the US, but you can see like in other countries, they could potentially be able to enact like a ban like this, given the fact that fossil fuel companies and their activities present like a measurable quantifiable, like health risk to people they also do shit in other countries where they're like you can't drive a car here which we would just like never do in america i saw there was a thing in australia where there was like some big concert and it was like the only way to get to the concert was to take public transportation and everyone just takes it and you can't you literally can't drive there but how do they deal with all the uh heavily armed people protesting that they're not allowed to drive their pickup truck? That's my question. You know?
Starting point is 00:41:09 Yeah. We got a lot of things to figure out. Yeah, right. Yeah, I feel like we're so far gone in the United States that it might just be the rest of the world has to intervene at some point in the future oh yeah i mean we've we've i think the u.s is fully demonstrated we we can't we can't be trusting anything yeah yeah like maybe we can make a couple movies and do some sports yeah yeah we'll make other than that we should have no say in anything else happening in the world but the dirigible thing is one of the
Starting point is 00:41:45 things from a ministry for the future they they like build out a future well first of all they just like change how they live where like people live closer to where they need to go and like don't use as many as much transportation or like they have better public transportation but like yeah nobody flies like that's one of those there's like a thing too where people like there's like right wing people who think there's a conspiracy to like end driving right yeah yeah that's like with like the 15
Starting point is 00:42:16 minute city thing that's happening yeah did I bring that up on the show once before maybe yeah I don't know I was just reading about that they thought that the fires in Hawaii were like an op that they thought that the fires in hawaii were like an op that they were like for sure they were yeah sure wait for sure they thought that or for sure it wasn't no that was enough you guys think those fires just came out of nowhere they thought it was an op to make the 15 minute city and when the freeway was on fire here in la when the 10
Starting point is 00:42:43 caught on fire yeah i was watching tiktok and a lot of people on tiktok were like gavin newsome is trying to force everyone to take public transportation by burning down the freeways and i was like he's licking his chops right now i fucking wish they were burning down the freeways on purpose instead of right they let somebody have a wood pallet company underneath. Yeah, with a bunch of hand sanitizer next to it. Wood pallet storage next to hand sanitizer vat
Starting point is 00:43:13 and the place where we make the flints for Bic lighters. Yeah, that was like Occam's razor of the Looney Tune, the Acme factory they put under the most used freeway. Right, right, right. That's all of our loose TNT storage is over there.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Right. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films
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Starting point is 00:44:41 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions.
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Starting point is 00:46:18 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back fucking speaking of uh some of this american shit not flying in other countries
Starting point is 00:46:57 so a top eu court just ruled against mcdonald's uh favoring an an Irish fast food chain called Supermax, not like a prison, Supermac, M-A-C, as part of a prolonged legal battle involving the Big Mac trademark. So Supermax was established in 1978, but when it tried to branch out to the EU in 2017, McDonald's just sent an army of lawyers to flood the court with objections to them being able to be that yeah anywhere else i love that like it's called super max yeah we can't i can't there's no way for me to separate that from the prison system in my mind yeah yeah like when i think it's a commentary also from outside America about what America, the other great, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Are there great industry? The prison industrial complex? Yeah. Prison industrial complex and McDonald's. Yeah. Yeah. Probably both California. Probably both the same thing.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Maybe. Yeah. So they both failed to stop Supermax from expanding into the EU and lost the exclusive right to the term Big Mac. Oh, fuck. Because they were like, oh, yeah? Oh, you're going to sue us? Well, we're going to file a request with the EU Intellectual Property Office to revoke your Big Mac trademark registration in certain categories. registration in certain categories so supermac filed a request with the eu intellectual property office to revoke mcdonald's big mac trademark registration in certain categories so basically they can't like make a replica like big mac sandwich and call it a big mac right right right
Starting point is 00:48:39 le big mac but they can do it with chicken sandwiches they can have a chicken sandwich it's called a big i appreciate it yeah yeah yeah and like services connected to operating restaurants also they can do that i'm not sure what that means exactly but since they hadn't used the name big mac within the required window of five years. So they needed to drop some Madam Web type Big Mac shit to keep the trademark up, and they failed to do that. So now Super Macs can
Starting point is 00:49:16 use that shit. Yeah, I'm fine. Who cares? McDonald's. You don't own Big Mac at this point. The people of the earth do yeah well also they stole the big mac in 1967 a mcdonald's franchise owner copied a burger made by big boy which was the main rival at the time and made a few modifications but he was like oh man i fucked up big boys that's the home team
Starting point is 00:49:45 out here. Shout out Bob's. I mean, it's a losing home team. That's like some Clippers shit. Wow. I'm a Clippers fan now, guys. Wait, what? Oh, you said that last time. Remember I just learned about Inside the NBA?
Starting point is 00:50:00 I'm a Clippers fan. I support the Clippers for sure. It's a difficult... it's a tough road. I only can root for an underdog team. Yeah. Well, you have chosen wisely. Yeah, I don't give a fuck about the Lakers. You should try the 76ers.
Starting point is 00:50:17 They're fun too. If you were to, I can't, yeah, I'm surprised growing up you didn't get fully Laker poisoned. No, I literally. But your family's from like. My dad is from New York and my brother and my dad are Knicks fans, which is truly also like an albatross to carry. Yeah. But also, I was just saying this yesterday. I hate the Lakers because I grew up in the era of fucking loser ass guys wearing Kobe jerseys.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Right. You know? Yeah. They're still wearing them. Miles, you understand me. You understand me. No, you grew up in the current era. And I never rocked a Kobe jersey.
Starting point is 00:50:54 That was such a culture. Fucking the worst suburban-ass, Malibu's most wanted guys wearing Kobe jerseys. With the baggy jean shorts? With baggy jean shorts, like, seawalking at parties. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. And then taking jeans shorts, like, seawalking at parties. Yeah, oh my god. And then taking off in their 3 Series BMW. That was their mom's hand-me-down.
Starting point is 00:51:10 And there was a point where people were jacking people's cars if they had Laker flags, because you could use the flag to open the window. Yeah, Jimmy the Window? That's what you get for being a bandwagon fan of a team that's only because they're popular. It's just too easy to root for a winning That's what you get for being a bandwagon fan of a team that's only because they're popular. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Yeah. It's just like it's too easy to root for a winning team. Everybody's a fan of a team when they're the winners. Got to root for a team that sucks. I mean, I was rooting for them in the worst years, the worst eras, the Del Harris years even. Shit. Everything was all bad. But anyway, all that to say.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Yeah. Yeah. I'm rooting, since everybody wants to know, rooting for the Mavericks in the finals. I think most people are. You're on the right side of history. Because I hate the damn Celtics.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And why do you hate the Celtics as someone who's coming sort of freshly into basketball? Is that because the Nick Eastern Conference hatred for us? Or just a general anti-Boston sentiment? Because, yeah, fuck Boston. Yeah. My main rooting interest in the NBA is rooting against the Celtics.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah, rooting against Celtics fans. Yeah. Basically, that's where I'm at. Rooting against that little fucking leprechaun. Yeah. That's offensive to me, first of all. As an Irishman. Oh, well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Yes, yes. Hold it down for the Irish, Jack. What the fuck? Look, bro, I'm Irish, too. Yeah. I don't fight anybody. I am a coward. Jack's not getting in the paddy wagon.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Yeah. There was a time. There was a time. Wait, did you just do the fight in Irish? Can I... He just put up his dukes. Isn't that... Doesn't the Celtics logo also...
Starting point is 00:52:51 Or is he leaning on a... Yes, it's this little fucking leprechaun doing that. But it's like he looks like when Irish people used to box and they were like... Yeah. You can't see this because it's a podcast. But imagine we're all... Wait, is he still... Because wait, I thought he's spinning a basketball now with a pipe.
Starting point is 00:53:04 He is spinning a basketball because the NBA has this weird thing where they're like, every logo has to let them know what sport we're talking about. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:13 It's so wild. That's why everyone has a basketball? How many logos have a basketball in them? It's like, guys. No, this Celtic guy was never fighting.
Starting point is 00:53:22 He was never fighting. No. At first, it was like a weird, looked like a jack type, like a court jester. Yeah. Like a wand and shit back in the day. But anyway,
Starting point is 00:53:31 all that to say. Yeah. Here, yeah. As they're like dominating the NBA, they're like, and here's our logo, a fool,
Starting point is 00:53:41 a complete and utter fool. Enjoy. Enjoy. But, okay. we were talking about you you said that you were team big boy which is like i didn't even know they were in the same league at any point like i didn't know they were competing against one another uh i didn't either more to say that like bob's big boy is like a historic spot in the valley like and in in terms of that i'm like oh yeah that's that's the home team out in out in pittsburgh jim delgatti uh who was one who owned a franchise in pittsburgh stole the big boy sandwich and was like hey look this isn't fucking right this is it wasn't like discovering this is look, this isn't fucking art. This is, it wasn't
Starting point is 00:54:26 like discovering, this is a quote, this wasn't like discovering the light bulb. The bulb was already there. All I did was screw in the socket. Okay? And then the Big Mac is born. And they're like, and now we'll sue anybody who tries to claim that they
Starting point is 00:54:42 invented this. That's my fucking light bulb. Here's a question. What's the Mac about? The Mac? Shouldn't it be the Big Mick? Back to being anti-Irish? Yeah, I think it's too racist. It's too close to...
Starting point is 00:54:56 Is that why? Maybe at the time, like in the 60s, it probably wasn't considered racist. It was probably considered confusing because they all had a friend who was a big Irish guy that they called the big, big Mick. Right. But why don't they call it Mac Donald's?
Starting point is 00:55:09 Yeah. I don't know. Mac dowels. You know, they have the, they have the right. What's the one in coming to America? Mac dowels.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Yeah. Yeah. This is, I just also love this idea to like Jim Delgatti, that his concept of technological advancements is about like digging something up and discovering it's like i didn't discover the light bulb yeah you know i'm digging in my backyard yeah i just like you know i don't know how that was developed i'm pretty sure that the guy who discovered the light bulb just found it in like an old cemetery or something right
Starting point is 00:55:39 and he's like we got to start making these but I mean, this is like a long term trend with McDonald's. They keep trying to sue companies over Big Mac trademark infringements and then just completely eat shit. Last year, they tried to sue an Australian chain over their Big Jack burger. Hey, Big Jack. And McDonald's lost in the restaurant, used the lawsuit as a selling point in ads. Similar ruling was handed down in 2019 before McDonald's appealed. But back then, the decision led to Swedish Burger King trolling McDonald's with menus featuring a whole section that was called Not Big Macs. Oh!
Starting point is 00:56:20 One of the sandwiches was said, Big Mac-ish, but flame-grilled, of course. Sounds like Turnabout is fair play if they stole it from somebody. Right, exactly. But I think they maybe feel some sort of way about having stolen it, and so they're hyperprotective. And because they have this issue,
Starting point is 00:56:41 they keep fucking up. Yeah, classic, like, well, we stole it, but you can't steal it from us. We thought of it first. Yeah. Sometimes accusing people of doing the thing that you did doesn't work out. Only the Republicans. Only the Republicans. The Republicans seem to always pull it off with style.
Starting point is 00:56:59 That's their thing. That's their thing. All right. Well, Molly Lambert, such a pleasure having you on the show. Thank you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me on Instagram at Molly underscore Lambert. You can find me on TikTok where I don't post yet at Molly Lambert World.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Where am I start posting? Twitter sometimes at Molly Lambert. And yeah, here in the world of podcasts. Soon with some new podcast stuff here in the world of podcasts. Soon with some new podcast stuff here in the old iHeart. Yeah. Very exciting. Can I leave you with a piece of media
Starting point is 00:57:33 I've been looking at? The final question. Oh my God, that's so weird. I was about to ask you for that. That's so crazy. Here's a tweet I enjoyed. Was from Emily F. Miller emily underscore f underscore miller if you're looking for something actually worth celebrating this fourth of july you're in luck
Starting point is 00:57:52 because i have come across some incredible news it's the caesar salad centennial dawn the green on july 4th it's only right and. And the Caesar salad was invented in Tijuana at Italian restaurant Caesar's by a chef named Caesar Cardini on July 4th, 1924. Damn. That's a good one. Caesar salad centennial.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I love a Caesar. I don't know if you guys have been to Tijuana to Caesar's, but they make a Caesar salad table side. It is the best Caesar salad I've ever had in my life. It's so fucking good. I love that. I went there so many times. Wouldn't it suck if it was whack? Yeah. By all rights,
Starting point is 00:58:34 they've been making it for 100 years and getting just cheap, probably tourist traffic with it. It's great. It's kind of a miracle that it's still really good. It's really good. I fucking love a Caesar salad.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I can't wait to celebrate the Caesar salad centennial. Famously, I guess Julia Child went to Tijuana and had that Caesar salad and loved it so much that that's kind of how she brought salads back to California, kind of. Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Part of the beginning of the California salad revolution. Incredibly influential. I have a lot of salad info. Chinese chicken salad, also invented in LA. What's your favorite salad? Just like all purple. Is it Wolfgang Puck? Did Wolfgang Puck create that one?
Starting point is 00:59:19 No, it was... Wolfgang Puck jacked it, much like the Big Mac, from a woman who had a Chinese restaurant. From Big Boys. I believe her name was Madam Wu. And she had a famous Los Angeles Chinese restaurant. And she took a Chinese recipe that she knew for chicken on a bed of lettuce. And she was like, damn in california love these
Starting point is 00:59:45 salads yeah what if i turned this into a salad and then threw some little orange segments in there for you know some fried wontons yeah yeah fried wontons is the most load-bearing ingredient in that without that it becomes a totally different salad for me she she invented it and it became a big hit salad. And then that's why it's like so popular in LA that Wolfgang Puck made it too. Right. And then,
Starting point is 01:00:10 but he caught it like the chinois, like he's, he's like tried to make it all fucking fancy. We're like, yeah. And then there's now there's one from like Gwyneth Paltrow's company. That's called like the Brentwood chicken salad. The most white,
Starting point is 01:00:23 white washing. You know, what's so annoying though, is that they're the goop kitchen like kind of has some good food. That's what people keep saying. I hear it. So here it's not bad. That's not you admitting that you've been there out loud.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Yeah. Come on, man. I just I've heard like I've walked by and smelled other people. That's all. No, man. I walk by. I eat people's leavings, bro. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I wait until they're Done and then I Take the wontons They left behind In their Brentwood Chicken salad That's actually Fucking good
Starting point is 01:00:51 Alright thank you Thank you Miles Where can people Find you Is there a work of Media you've been Enjoying
Starting point is 01:00:59 Yeah find me At miles of gray On twitter and Instagram and Everywhere else They have at symbols Find jack and I on the basketball podcast. Miles and Jack on Mad Booskies.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Talk final start tonight. Catch me talking 90 day, or I guess technically yesterday. The final started last night. Yeah. Wow. I can't believe they did that. That happened. Crazy, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:18 That was wild. Also find me talking 90 day on 420 Day Fiance. And I'm on Langston, Kermanerman and David Borey's podcast. My mama told me talking about the rainbow parties, the great myth of rainbow parties, uh, on the latest episode. So check me out there,
Starting point is 01:01:32 uh, a piece of media. I'm like, there are these two young dudes out in the UK who make, are making comedy on Tik TOK. That's just like, kind of just absurd and funny. They're called Marley and archie official and
Starting point is 01:01:46 they just do stuff that's just sort of like what american people think people in the uk are like or just like absurd takes on like what uk public interactions are i'm just gonna play like half of this just because it's just kind of so stupid but hilarious excuse me sir is that your phone is that my phone my my phone my phone thank you i mean fuck you are you sure that that your phone? Is that my phone? My phone! My phone! Thank you! I mean, fuck you! Are you sure that's your phone? Well, are my pants on fire? What?
Starting point is 01:02:11 Pants on fire! No. Then fuck off! Excuse me sir, I've lost my dog. Have you seen it anywhere? No, I've seen your dog, Sam. One sec, let me just activate me fucking spidey senses. Hold on, I'm seeing something. You're just activate my fucking spidey senses. Hold on. I'm saying something.
Starting point is 01:02:27 You're a fucking idiot. Just like a bunch of hyper-aggressive shit out of nowhere. It's really funny. But anyway, yeah, that's Marley and Artie official on TikTok. They're funny. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Tweet I've been enjoying. Destry at Destry Broad tweeted, Dr. Pepper just unseated Pepsi as the second most popular soda in America.
Starting point is 01:02:53 That's true, apparently. And then he said, don't tell me that getting your PhD isn't worth it. Hey, that's right. Shout out to Dr. Pepper. And then I really, Alyssa Lamparis tweeted, I wish you could Shazam birds what's the one that goes oh i love that one would love to follow his work and people responded being like you're about to have a great a great day because merlin bird id app uh and oh for real yeah i so
Starting point is 01:03:22 this made me download it and i've been using it all morning and it works it's fucking there are now a hand i i used to say shazam was only good app like other than you know yeah but like what bird this app what bird this is fucking great there's one where you can take pictures of plants it tells you what plants it is the iphone does i think natively now that's pretty cool in the camera app but yeah think, natively now. That's pretty cool. In the camera app. But yeah, I didn't do that because I didn't know what would. That's pretty cool. You can find me on Twitter
Starting point is 01:03:51 at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We got a Facebook fan page and our website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Is that it? I don't know. Speaking of Southern Acts, that fucked me up there for a second.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Song. Song. Anyways, Miles, we lick off to the things we talked about and a song we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think we might enjoy? Yeah, there's one of my favorite bands hiatus coyote they're slowly leaked just having songs come out in anticipation of their new album called love heart cheat code that comes out in like three weeks um so this is actually the titular song love heart cheat code to that album because we got a little bit of a little ep that came out a little mixtape with some of the songs on there and again i just think they're a fantastic band everybody on their instruments is like fucking
Starting point is 01:04:49 just killing it and their creativity shines through because they're so literate on their instruments and just it's like again get into hiatus coyote i'm telling you they're a great band and kick your friday evening off or day off with this track, Love, Heart, Cheat Code by Hiatus Coyote. Love, Heart, Cheat Code. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:05:17 That's going to do it for us this week. We are back on Monday morning to tell you what was trending over the weekend. Also back over the weekend with the weekly Zeitgeist if you want to get a digest of everything we talked about this week. And yeah, but otherwise we will talk to you all on Monday. Have a great weekend, everybody. Bye. Peace. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 01:05:48 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark
Starting point is 01:06:32 versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and I Heart Podcasts.
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