The Daily Zeitgeist - Fox Fentanyl Fear Fest, GRIND CULTURE > HURRICANE IAN 09.29.22

Episode Date: September 29, 2022

In episode 1341, Miles and guest co-host Joelle Monique are joined by writer, actor, and podcaster, Dani Fernandez, to discuss... It’s Time For a Good Ole Fashioned Fox Fear Fest, HURRICANES WILL NO...T STOP CAPITALISM, I’m Glad My Mom Died - KING CHARLES EDITION, The Royal Family’s Freaking Out About The Crown Again, Blade Script is WEAK? And more! It’s Time For a Good Ole Fashioned Fox Fear Fest HURRICANES WILL NOT STOP CAPITALISM I’m Glad My Mom Died - KING CHARLES EDITION The Royal Family’s Freaking Out About The Crown Again Queen Elizabeth II supposedly liked to watch The Crown on Sundays Prince Charles Had a Rare Reaction to His Portrayal on 'The Crown' Buckingham Palace will ‘devise a plan’ to protect King Charles against ‘The Crown,' royal expert says Would the Royal Family Be Able to Sue 'The Crown' Producers? The Strange Reason Nearly Every Film Ends by Saying It’s Fiction (You Guessed It: Rasputin!) LISTEN: Wrath by Freddie DreddSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have
Starting point is 00:00:46 changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti
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Starting point is 00:02:02 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 256, Episode 4 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take the deepest of dives into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday. Or no, I said Tuesday. I already said it. It's Thursday, September 29th. I cannot read.
Starting point is 00:02:20 It's the year 2022. And that means September 29th is National Coffee Day, National VFW Day, and Urban National Wildlife Refuge Day, which to me sounds like a euphemism for when my mom lets possums and raccoons into her house. What's VFW? Veterans of Foreign War. Oh. Yeah. So there's a lot of VFW halls.
Starting point is 00:02:44 You've probably driven by one in your local town. If you ever parked, there's a VFW hall by the Hollywood Bowl where they have the big cannons outside where people park their cars. Look, keep your eye open for those VFW halls. I actually learned about it because of, I feel it was King of the Hill. Because Hank's dad, Cotton, would always be like, I gotta go to the VFW! And talk to the other World War II dudes and say weird adjacent slurs. But anyway, all that to say, National Coffee Day, also if you celebrate, shouts to you.
Starting point is 00:03:15 You're a coffee person, right? Not no more. It's sad. I can't drink coffee anymore. But you found a suitable alternative? Yeah, I got real into teas. Oh, yeah, yeah. Shut up, tea. Here's delicious teas of all varieties. It's hitting. We're getting there. Look, we're going to get to your favorite tea, but first we got to get to who the fuck we are.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Me? That's Miles Gray. How did I get here, you're wondering? Well, great question. It all started seven years ago. But really, I'm Miles Gray, a.k.a. the Lord of Lancashire, Hideo Noho. And I'm thrilled to be joined by my guest co-host, the one with the mo-host. And when I say the mo-host, I mean the mo-host's reputable opinions on media. And someone who's, look, I could say so many things, but I'm going to run out of hyphens
Starting point is 00:04:03 because there's so many hyphens that's so hyphenate up in here. But please welcome to the microphone, a wonderful person, podcast host, producer, media critic, and just general fantastic voice, Joelle Monique. Oh, I miss you, Miles. What's up? I miss you, too. Good to see you. I mean, I saw you at the Hollywood Bowl. We ran into each other. We did. We did. We concerted together. It was a magical concert too, so that was fun. And Justin, you know, shout out Justin, the guy.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah, okay, so teas, you got your, what's your favorite tea right now? I love like a white jasmine peach, you know, with some honey. It's really tasty. A mint tea, especially if you have like just like mint, like fresh mint leaves and hot water. Wow. It's transcendent like you have tea voice right now like when you're talking about it i feel as very the vibration is cozy yes thank you i found out the trick of how to get podcast voice is plug your headphones into your mic
Starting point is 00:04:58 wait what do you mean before were you not what you're saying, and then you could adjust it. And then you dialed in to hear. I've been doing this for a long time, guys. Yeah. No, I used to just plug them directly into the computer as a way to control audio output. But then I got a fancy mic, and I was like, oh, you can route it all through your mic. Equipment matters, is what I'm saying. Without further ado, welcome our our guest you might know her
Starting point is 00:05:27 as a writer netflix hbo you know dc what hasn't she done maybe you know her uh from her podcasting maybe you know her from her exquisite social media posts maybe you know her as that character in the background was that ralph breaks the internet he said hold on is that danny it was and i hate to just say the name before i introduce them but please welcome the brilliant and talented danny fernandez what's up yes also i was not in the background miles i mean not i'm sorry okay i literally said hey it's danny fernandez'm sorry. I meant to say that it wasn't named after you. Again, I'm still learning my proper speech. I have my own Disney wiki. I'm on there.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It's a little intense. They have like stuff about my daughter. It's like Danny Fernandez's family lives in San Diego. She's often posting things of her Beagle mix, Molly. I'm like, whoa, okay. Yeah. Welcome. You know, the fandom has embraced you.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And honestly, I would love to one day have my own Pixar rendering of my face. I'll take it over WikiFeet. I will take it over WikiFeet. You know what you should do is upload. If you know anybody to make like Pixar looking feet of yours and put those on WikiFeet. They'll be like, look at Dani's feet when she was in Ralph Breaks the Internet. The whole time you had to freak to your DMs.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. Oh, no. But yeah, what's new? You're living in LA still? Enjoying the weather? Yeah. Here I am. Nothing. I'm just working. I'm in development, which we all love and enjoy. One of the shows I wrote on, Girls on the Bus, is coming out on HBO Max, I think, next year.
Starting point is 00:07:09 It's filming right now. And another show that I wrote on, also at HBO Max, called More, just announced its cast on deadline this week. So, you know, slowly but surely, things that I've worked on for years are starting to come out. Yeah. I never thought you were lying. When you said you're like, trust me, this stuff is coming out. I'm like, I know, I know. I think it's, you have no idea how hard,
Starting point is 00:07:31 I mean, they worked on Coco for six years. I just, I would leave. I would be like, I'm too vain. I need people to know that I'm actually doing something and I'm not just, you know, because everyone's like, what are you working on? I was like, you know, I got a script. You know, I got something. I like the just, you know, cause everyone's like, what are you working on? And I was like, you know, uh, I got, I got a script, you know, I got, I got something. I like the idea of you talking shit to like, can y'all get Coco done? Otherwise I'm gonna have to
Starting point is 00:07:52 move on. I don't know if I want anything to do with this. It's like an Oscar winning masterpiece. And I'm like, I just need the light. I need the Instagram likes y'all. I'm sorry. Give me something to upload. No, it's really hard as a creator to, to, especially with COVID pushed so many projects that I was working on for a year. I'm not kidding. Like literally knocked it back a year or two in the slate of, of things. And as we're seeing a lot of changeover and mergers, which we might be talking about today, but really affects us as creators. And so I feel like I, I don't know know sometimes i feel like i got benched and i was watching a lot of people play you know getting to go back into filming and a lot of the things that
Starting point is 00:08:29 i'm personally developing that i'm set to also act in and star in got kind of pushed a year or two and that feels like a year or two of your life got put on hold so yeah that's like the same thing i remember when like joey clift was first talking about working on Spirit Rangers and I was like, oh, dope. And he's like, in like maybe two and a half years. Right, right, right, right. And now we're there. Yeah, now Fest over there with this week's villain du jour, Halloween fentanyl. Watch out, y'all. It looks like sweet tarts. Then we'll talk about how hurricanes cannot stop the hustle at one workplace in Florida. Very, very strange interaction with the boss and their employees. Then we will do, I'm glad my mom died, King Charles edition, just to check in with the throne there because, you know, King Chuck, his money's coming out in a little bit and we'll just, the dust has settled.
Starting point is 00:09:34 There's some new details. And we'll also talk about how the royal family is freaking out about the crown again, because we haven't talked about that since that little teaser dropped. But first, Dani, what is something from your search history uh that reveals something about you or what you're looking mutually it would be that i looked up try guys and when is mercury retrograde over is it right now are we in retrograde we are hell yeah we've been in retrograde how long have you been in retrograde terrible we've been in retrograde since september yeah since the beginning of september um long have you been in retrograde? It's terrible. We've been in retrograde since September.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Since the beginning of September, multiple planets have been in retrograde. I truly don't care if people believe in it or not. It has ruined my life. It just makes communication super off and transportation.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Travel was hell. Technology. What was the first one you said try guys try guys i okay this was so funny because like on reddit there's like thing called black people twitter where this is like the best black twitter takes and like one of them that was getting upvoted was like look y'all i knew what a harry styles was i knew what adam levine was i don't know what the fuck Ned from Try Guys is. I did two white people scandals this month. And I, sorry, I just, we'll try again in October was the take.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And I was like, I remember, and so many older people too, or people who didn't grow up with like in the YouTube generation were like, what the, why is this the trending thing? And I don't, I didn't even know that they all had like their own personalities i didn't know either i learned a lot over the past two days on the internet my favorite tweet of those was like do you think this is white people's deezus and mero breakup and i think it's inadequate oh my god i'm dead i'm dead. I'm dead. That's so funny. Yeah. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Don't make your band about your wife if you plan on cheating on her. It just seems faulty. It's not a good way forward. Yeah. I love that cheaters are getting outed. Like, it's just. That's fun. It makes me happy.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yeah. So, did you search because you knew nothing of the Try Guys? You're like, I remember it as a concept, but what the fuck do I know? No, I mean, I haven't really watched any of their stuff, but I was like, I don't know, I was nosy. I'm like, what does he look like? Oh, of course he looks like that. I'm like, of course you're cheating on your wife. I bet she's five times prettier than you
Starting point is 00:12:06 takes care of your children yeah so i just wanted to put a name to a face and it was somebody posted the wrong white guy and they were like oh i'm fascinated to know the drama behind this man and then they corrected them and they were like i don't care i'm still gonna use this guy no yeah wow like it's the other thing that's really interesting like is if you have like a creative group i guess it's a bad look when it's you one of the members embroils you in a scandal but i like the way they were like yo man we can't move forward with him anymore oh but you know why right why what happened because the person he slept with was a member of their team was an employee oh my goodness okay see what the
Starting point is 00:12:48 fuck is wrong with people he messed it up twice wow his apology was crap like i just i'm just reading this now this is from ned fulmer so for people who don't know we talked about on trending this this is a guy from try guys do your own googling and he cheated on his wife they're like yo we can't fuck with this guy we've split ways with this man then he posted this family should have always been my priority but i i lost focus and had a consensual workplace relationship i'm sorry for any pain that my actions may have caused to the guys and the fans but to most of all to ariel the only thing that matters right now is my marriage and my children. And that's where I'm going to focus my attention. Damn.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Most of all, but I'll mention you last. Sorry to fans and coworkers. Also my wife. And most of all that. Sorry to that woman over there. And I'm sorry to that woman. I don't know who this is.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And I'm sorry to this woman. Oh my God. Oh shit. Okay. Well, yeah, Ned, come this woman. Oh, my God. Oh, shit. Okay. Well, yeah, Ned. Come on now. Overrated. Dani, what's something you think is that?
Starting point is 00:13:50 Okay, I love that this is something that Tom Hanks thinks is overrated, but I love that he said that he's only made, like, four pretty good movies in his career. Okay, I just love the fact that he's not taking film like too seriously and i know he probably said it offhanded and now it's like all over like deadline and variety and hollywood reporter and that's unfortunate but i love the fact that he here's mine here's here's what i think it has to be at least toy story has to be in there right so we know at least one that's so we only have three left we know toy story has to be in there. I'm sorry, but I'm also going to have to put Castaway. Right?
Starting point is 00:14:27 Castaway does not make my top four Tom Hanks films. What? He's by himself for a whole hour and he carried a film by himself. Perhaps this is his greatest acting performance. Perhaps this is his greatest acting performance. But is it his best film? I think Road to Perdition for me is number one like it surpasses anything else he's ever done it's so dark and dreamy and devastating
Starting point is 00:14:52 i love road i would agree with you with toy story and then i think is it philadelphia story or just philadelphia philadelphia philadelphia yeah nails Yeah, that's like his probably one of his most, like in terms of powerful acting, that was definitely one where I was like, the guy from Joe versus Volcano. Like I remember as a kid going to see it and that shit was heavy. But like my parents were never like shying away from shit
Starting point is 00:15:17 because like the subject matter. And I was like, oh my God, the fuck is going on in Philadelphia? And they're like, it's not just Philadelphia. But yeah. You're going to hate my other one that's on there because I had to put a rom-com because he was the king during that time. And this is, I think, one of the most, the reason why I put this is I think it's one of the most iconic rom-coms. And it's probably not the one that people normally pick for him.
Starting point is 00:15:39 But I got to go with You've Got Mail. I've got to go with You've Got Mail. It is one of the best rom-coms. So I'm sorry. That's the one that I pick. I love You've Got Mail. You've Got Mail. It is one of the best rom-coms. So I'm sorry. That's the one that I pick. I love You've Got Mail. You've Got Mail is a great suggestion. Yeah, I knew you.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I like how you went. You thought we going to Seattle. Hell no. No. Also, he's not even with her mostly in that. And it's weird. I'm sorry. The end is weird.
Starting point is 00:15:59 It weirds me out. I'm sorry. I just love F-O-X. He's like, what? Fox Books? Yes, you know how to spell Fox. Don't make it hot for me. My fourth is That Thing You Do. Okay, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Yeah. That movie is everything to me. He's not in a lot. Now, is that more of an ensemble? Is that more of an ensemble cast that is giving us the energy? Can we call that a Tom Hanks? Is it his best performance? No.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Is it a great movie? Yes. Absolutely. But yeah, I would say maybe his best film and he directed it and wrote it so he was pulling a lot of strings and the movie is so good so then when he says i've only made four pretty good films then i will count that thing you do because isn't his whole thing like uh playtone like wasn't the name of his production company is playtone now based Based after Playtone Records
Starting point is 00:16:46 from That Thing You Do. Okay. Call me Spartacus. I've been there. A League of Their Own. Does that rank for anybody? Oh, shit. Okay, listen. He rolled deep. I think he's off on four. You've made many great films, Tom Hanks. I've only made four good things and one of them is not
Starting point is 00:17:02 Chet. Oh, did you see him at that fucking weird christian event he did no yo this dude he's in trouble man he he was like pacing the stage at like a religious event and he's like you know i want to talk about how it's saved and i'm not going to talk about some bullshit and he's like being really he's swearing like this dude comes up he's like yo this is a family event man like calm that down he goes i don't give a fuck he's like being really he's swearing like this dude comes up he's like yo this is a family event man like calm that down he goes i don't give a fuck he's like what you're gonna do come up here that's what i thought and he's like okay and then he like realizes where he's at he's like
Starting point is 00:17:33 and he's like and i'm sorry that i am cursing at you but uh and if you are offended just please take your kids away but i don't give a fuck and you're like oh boy boy boy i'm trying to think of another one that's also oh forrest gump i feel like is his awesome i mean academy award winning i don't know might be forrest forrest gump is a like one of those films that you at the time you're like yeah that made me feel good and then you watch it again you're like this is all right it never needs to be yeah it's such i feel like i feel like he would probably put that on there but also I don't know him it is the movie that made him the most money I think because he had some kind of he invested a bunch of money up front
Starting point is 00:18:12 because the studio didn't believe in the movie he got a shit ton of points on the back end he made a lot of money off of that movie Cloud Atlas I won't forget Cloud Atlas bold choices we're gonna write us they're gonna be so mad we had a platform and this is what we did with it
Starting point is 00:18:32 cloud atlas his hair in the da vinci code not him in the da vinci code his hair in the da vinci code yeah okay yes his wardrobe and catch me if you can his accent and elvis the accent has to walk right because then you can take away things that just bring you joy that's the other thing is like i'm not his his whole energy or his the draw to him isn't that he's making the best films all the time it's like look at this dude who seems really kind yeah like you know what i mean he just he just got big uncle energy anyway danny what's something you think is underrated? Y'all are going to laugh. Please.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Oh, wait, underrated. I put this as overrated. Oh, okay. I'll say it. I'll switch it. So underrated, I think, is being like older, not older, but like, I think a lot of people overrate your youth. When I think of my youth, which I guess I'm still technically in, like to veterans in
Starting point is 00:19:23 our business, but like when I actually think of my youth, it's very like your college days or whatever. You're heartbroken most of the time. You're the people you're having sex with are probably just okay at it. You're broke. You're not advanced enough in your career. Like you don't have enough of a resume to actually like do anything that you actually want to do so i think like all i see on twitter and tiktok is like a lot of like age shaming constantly and i'm like actually i think everyone's like afraid to not be in their 20s anymore and i'm like actually you technically normally have more money you're a little bit wiser your dating life hopefully is better.
Starting point is 00:20:06 At least you have better boundaries and worth. And yeah, so I- Hopefully you're more secure in the identity of you. Hopefully you have a better, stronger friend network. Hopefully you worked out whatever crap was going on with you and your parents. Like there's a lot of stuff you get over like past your 20s. It's so much more beautiful on the other side of 29.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I just, so it was weird to me as i was turning 30 i'm like why are people upset about this it's right where people upset for you when you're like no i'm actually this is like the best i've been in my career i remember i was out with her majesty we were traveling somewhere and it was her birthday and we were with this like we we had like talked to this young couple at a bar and they were like in their early 20s. You could tell they were young as fuck because they were like, they were like, we just met on Tinder and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, look at John.
Starting point is 00:20:51 They're like, I'm 22. And I was like, they're like, where are you at? I'm like, oh, it's her birthday. And they're like, oh, how old did you turn? This was like when she turned 30. She's like, oh, 30. And they said, the girl in the couple said, oh, that's okay. No.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I still lived to reach this age thank you children she said it so sincerely she said it so sincerely oh that's okay that's okay like what the fuck but yeah it's true we were just talking about this with dramos when he was on is how much like i would say i spent most of my 20s avoiding living, truly. Avoiding feeling, avoiding, like, reckonings that would really make my life better. And then as you get older and those things happen, you're like, shit, man, I'll take this shit every day over, you know, the chaos of my youth. I'm still young, but, you know, my... Yeah, we're all still young, but I... My naive time, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Yes, yes. For sure. Evolved youth. know, my. Yeah, we're all still young. My naive time. Yeah. Yes. For sure. Of all of you. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll just talk about some spooky stuff since Halloween's around the corner.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I guess by a month. Whatever. Deal with it. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
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Starting point is 00:23:52 Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:24:30 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things
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Starting point is 00:26:14 Because the GOP is currently in an identity crisis heading into the midterms. This week, there are just so many stories of, like, journalists looking at candidate pages for Republicans going into the midterms. Everybody's scrubbing their forced birth beliefs. All of a sudden, you're not going to hear anything. You're not going to see anything about that on there, although I do believe it. But on my website, it is gone. Donald Trump never heard of him. Don't even do a command F on this page because you won't find Trump at all.
Starting point is 00:26:41 OK, that's just because I'm I totally get it. His stock is plummeting with independence. And that's why right now they're like really confused. What are they to do? All the xenophobia and misogyny is working against them. So what now? And I think they've gone back to their good friend, the fentanyl freak outs. Kevin McCarthy earlier promised like as a way to be like you know and when we take back the house kids are not going to have to worry about their their kids eight balls having fentanyl in it because we will secure the border and everyone's like wait i'm sorry what that the the take here is that the the drug war that you're always against is now that like hey drug users can
Starting point is 00:27:24 rejoice in the safety of the drugs that they're consuming because of draconian border policy. Whatever. Fine. And then there was this whole commitment to America pledge they keep talking about where it's like, you know, the commitment to America. It's it's not really an agenda that they have. It's not even fully formed. It's just a buzzword. Like I've there's no real text to it, at least that I've seen that makes any kind of sense. a buzzword like i've there's no real text to it at least that i've seen that makes any kind of sense um so the fentanyl panic continued on fox where they had an all-star team of absolute knobs
Starting point is 00:27:52 deciding to give their take to freak out the viewers at home so first i just want to the the first part is them just being like oh fucking trick or treat it's gonna ruin your fucking life so let's first check in with Janine Pirro and Jesse Waters. Just first kicking off how this is relevant to the Thanksgiving or I'm sorry, the Halloween period and why that is extra spooky. Masks and gloves and then they pill it up in plastic and then they distribute it. It's very hard to detect. You know, Dana, I mean, young children now going out to trick or treat. I mean, basically, parents have a decision to make.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You don't let your kids get that candy. It doesn't mean the person giving it out is intending to harm. Throw away all the nerds and the sweet tarts. Yeah, that's the end of it, Jesse. Or you decide it's not you're not going to there's not going to be massive Halloween parading. There's going to be small groups with families that we know. We're going to do this in our backyard or in our basement. And that's how we're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I don't understand. What? Okay. Okay. First of all, don't. As a fun fact, give the children their sweet tarts. Okay. Let them live yeah
Starting point is 00:29:05 and i don't know drugs that look like they're fentanyl like that's just not a thing that's gonna happen no well this happens every year right this is always a conservative freak out during halloween it's all last year it was mostly edibles again because like states were legalizing weed they're like they're gonna fucking get your kids high and every person who's ever used drugs like i will not give my drugs away for free also i'm not interested in pranking kids also people who are fucked up probably aren't trying to be involved with trick-or-treating anyway my house is not open for trick-or-treaters the lights are off next door please exactly i'm in my room melting watching hocus pocus i actually looked this up
Starting point is 00:29:41 and there have been no cases of strangers killing or permanently injuring children. That has been proven. Yeah. So it turns out. So this story, like you said, appears in the media every year. And the actual cause of death, whenever it whenever this shows up, has been shown that these children did not die from eating candy given to them by strangers. However, in rare cases, adult family members have spread this story in an effort to cover up murder or accidental death. So in 1970, it started,
Starting point is 00:30:11 there was a five-year-old boy in Detroit who died after eating his uncle's heroin. The family attempted to protect the uncle by claiming the drug had been sprinkled in the child's Halloween candy. Then there was another instance in 1974 so this was like as the start the 70s 80s and 90s was when this was really and obviously is still today in 1974 there was an eight-year-old timothy o'brien from texas who died after eating cyanide
Starting point is 00:30:37 lace package of pixie sticks turns out it was his father who was trying to kill him and claim life insurance oh so so it's never been it's never been i know it's it's terrifying and so and then and then i have one other thing is i looked up the razor blade myth right because that was a big one in the 80s yeah in the night yes and so it turns out that advice you know ask ann landers or dear ab Abby that people were writing into them. And so Ann said in recent years that there have been reports of people with twisted minds putting razor blades and poison in taffy apples and Halloween candy. It is no longer safe to let your child eat treats that come from strangers. This was in 1995. So that's how like putting that publication and something that people read that this kind of took off. Yeah. putting that publication in something that people read that this kind of took off yeah and this is all again like remember this is all part of the conservative agenda which is to put people in
Starting point is 00:31:31 such a like zone of fear and distrust and mistrust of the people around you that they're like autocratic fascist agenda will is like the only thing that will feel like an antidote to any of this right because it's like i mean my kids can't trick or treat because they got rainbow fentanyl and they're telling my kids what trans means and all i don't know this is not the world i want to live in please someone come and brutalize all these people yeah and you know the dea the dea like also responded they were like unequivocal they're just like look bro we're the fucking feds and we love a drug war honey we do but um we have not found any connection to drug imports and halloween murder campaigns or thematically colored fucking fentanyl to kill kids jesse waters tried to also really make it like the whole other point of this sort of segment was to also just kind of keep
Starting point is 00:32:25 slamming biden because like the whole underpinnings of this is like our kids are dying they're being murdered by china and we have to stop it and this is the thing where janine piero was like well it's coming from china this is like a they're they're declaring a war on us trying to murder our people what are we supposed to do jesse waters uh really came through with his you know if if i was joe byron let me tell you what i would do it's not a good idea he could launch a cyber attack on the chinese that's what i would do they're going to declare a drug war in america i launch a cyber attack because that's how serious it is you can make so much money off of fentanyl on the street you get a kilo of fentanyl four thousand dollars wholesale on the
Starting point is 00:33:10 street you could make 1.2 million dollars cocaine and heroin meth you can't even make close to that on the street and you can't trick okay i'm sorry you've been hanging out with Matt Gaetz? The fuck was that? How did he go from being like, we need to cyber attack China to, I have a plan to sell drugs illegally in these streets. Because guess what? They make a ton of money. You suddenly became the Nino Brown of Fox News right there. Be like, man, you're not making the same cuts on heroin or cocaine. You could 3X that shit with fentanyl wholesale though like what the fuck okay so then to make this even more absurd sharon osborne is on this panel fucking sharon osborne
Starting point is 00:33:56 i don't i mean i know she was ousted from the the woke ass view or whatever but janine fero just trying to wrap this segment up it's something like and what about you over there england what's your can you also add to this to give this segment a little international flavor of ignorance uh and here is nobody asked sharon osborne about her take on it but i guess here's sharon osborne you know that sharon china does not have a drug problem i understand because they're too busy sending it to the Western world. No, because their punishment is death. I like how they fucked up their propaganda improv at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And you know, in China, you know why it's not a problem over there. She's like, yeah, because they sent it over here. She's like, no, girl, remember, we're trying to say Chinese people, they kill the drug dealers. Right. Because they put them to death that's right janine i am good at this uh they go on to i don't know keep pushing this point literally and so what's going on in the uk really it's at the uk too you have people selling it to school kids that wait outside schools it's it's it's everywhere there too but the thing is these people who are caught selling
Starting point is 00:35:07 it should be put in jail for life they should be sent away for life because when you're a dealer you are killing people so oh my god the same thing by definition of the law this is such low energy propaganda like i can't handle it i, they should go to jail for their life because when you are a drug dealer, you are a desperate person with no other financial means or ways to generate. Wait, wait, no, that's a that's a sympathetic view of what a drug dealer is. They are killers. They're murderers. Yeah. Also, did you y'all have anyone ever proposition you at school like i
Starting point is 00:35:47 wish i wish someone came up to me it was me i was the one propositioning your ass 100 trying to get people to buy us beer yeah exactly i wasn't outside the school motherfucker i was in the classroom with them i'm like hey what's, what's up? What you need, man? Oh, yeah, yeah. I got that. I got that. Yeah, yeah. By the Honda. By the Honda. Yeah, yeah. The other one, though. Yeah, by the homies. Yeah, yeah. 3.30? Okay. That's how it's done, Sharon. Have me on your show and let you know
Starting point is 00:36:15 how these kids don't... Nothing is like the fucking D.A.R.E. program from 40 years ago. That's probably the first time you heard about street drugs. Especially at the schools your kids are attending ma'am okay yeah especially you want to talk about private schools in la stop it ridiculous okay i did want to say before anyone writes me about the halloween candy thing that there was one dentist in 1959 who who hand out chocolate covered laxatives as a joke okay and uh like 30 kids had had a really rough night oh yeah so that was that was one
Starting point is 00:36:56 incidence in 1959 i don't i don't know why i like yeah dentists don't have the best humor they know we're not did you see that one video on the internet where the the dentist was trying to get the syringe from the assistant while they were doing so and the guy was trying to thought they were trying to make the hand heart to complete it the doctor's like stop that shit we're at work okay he's like I'm trying to fucking fill your fucking cavity knock the this shit off. Anyway. Well, let's move on from the scariness of a manufactured, like, fentanyl propaganda thing to the scariness of capitalism and hustle culture. Hurricane Ian, at present, I know is in the midst of touching down in Florida.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And if you are in the area, please be safe. My thoughts are with you. So far, it has left Cuba without power and two fatalities in Florida. And if you are in the area, but please be safe. My thoughts are with you. So far, it has left Cuba without power and two fatalities in Florida. Again, officials have warned people of the severity of the storm and encouraged many to evacuate since once the storm hits emergency, since once the storm hits our emergency vehicles, they can't go to get them. So they're like, yo, you this is this isn't a fucking joke so in clearwater they declared a state of emergency tuesday and pinellas county began issuing evacuation orders monday and most people have been focused on the safety of their loved ones but at postcard mania a postcard marketing company no in in clearwater florida the concern is apparently on never stopping the
Starting point is 00:38:23 fucking grisined the ceo of the clear-based company has been telling employees to come in because we got money to make, child. This is what the CEO was saying on a Zoom call to employees on Monday. Quote, if you want to leave your home and you're being told to leave your home and you feel like you should and you have no place to go, postcard mania is probably the safest place to be in Florida, CEO Joy Gendusa told employees on Monday, and then said, anyway, bring your pets, bring your kids, bring everybody to PCM. Obviously, you feeling safe and comfortable
Starting point is 00:38:55 is of the utmost importance, but I honestly want to continue to deliver and I want to have a good end of quarter. And when the hurricane turns into nothing, I don't want it to be like, great, we all stopped producing because of the media and that maybe it was just going to be terrible.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Contusa Joy is a capitalist and she wants everyone to know that she's part of the machine and happy to be a cog in it. Girl, what the F? Joy, will you be there on uh at pcm at postcard mania no no no i i flew up to boston i love that they put pcm was built to withstand category five wins yeah this is so what's wow this so the insistence right is that yeah it's
Starting point is 00:39:40 like her going it's probably gonna be nothing no it just killed two Cuban people. Okay. And they're, they're warning of the terrible storm surge that's coming. And they point to this 69,000 square foot campus that they really feel is safe. So these text messages that we're saying that Danny's talking about, these were texts that were actually sent to employees from their business. texts that were actually sent to employees from their business. PCM, postcard mania, was built to withstand Cat 5 wins. We would like to continue to service our national clients if we can. Bring your kids to work on Tuesday and Wednesday this week. Next text. We will have movies and fun. I think it's a camera emoji, balloon emoji for them.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Cool. Then from the CEO. Pennywise will be here. Perfect. Yeah, exactly. cool then from the ceo what let's say pennywise will be here perfect yeah exactly then then the next one is the this text is from joy i've lived here for over 30 years there's always more hype in the media than any storm that has ever hit here postcard mania is the best place to be it's super strong bring your pets if you feel that need the misspelled t the is th if you feel need uh i doubt in the end you will really need to we are not closing we are working we'll make it super fun for the kids see you at staff meeting oh my gosh here's several things i bet you guys don't know what kids do for fun okay you give them
Starting point is 00:40:58 an ipad and whatever game system they're having and they're good okay they don't need light and some food throw some snacks in there the kids are fine but i also just can't imagine the the hubris it must take to be like yeah i know the entire town is leaving because the governmental body said yo it's unsafe here but i'm just gonna go ahead and demand that you come to work i mean we want to finish the i thought she was starting out sly where like every employer that we've had would would say something like that like you know if you feel the need to come into work i don't want to stop you yeah so like you know you're safe here if you if your home floods you know you have a place with us we are your family right you know they always use that
Starting point is 00:41:38 line but and so i was like man that's really sly like you wouldn't you know you couldn't use that against her but then to be like and i want to finish quarter strong, like just completely gave that away. Also, when you say I want to, I want to continue to produce like that is sadistic. And I hate that we all stopped producing because of the media and the maybe that it was going to be terrible. Like that sounds like a company that is about to fold. Do you think it's like, oh, we got Christmas rush. And if these sayings aren't on point, homework is going to beat us for the 57th quarter in a row. It's a postcard marketing thing.
Starting point is 00:42:15 So I feel like it's like they make postcards that you can use as marketing stuff. Yeah. Like for your business. Like, you know, when you go to birds next to ucb and they got those two little girls give that little girl giving the finger on the postcard huh yeah okay just something they're like a direct mail thing it makes sense because direct mail i feel like it's like already so intrusive that your boss had a direct marketing thing like hey man you got to come in man it's like you just got to keep these numbers churning. But the great
Starting point is 00:42:45 thing to see, or just tragic, is once these posts went public and went viral and people's outrage started hitting the CEO's inbox, she just, this is her, this is what she said now. Quote, I know this has been a stressful time and I want to apologize to anyone who received our text message and felt that it came across as insensitive. That text did not accurately reflect how seriously we were taking this storm and everyone's safety, and I regret that it was sent without better judgment. We never intended to make people feel like they had to come into work when they need to evacuate or take other hurricane precautions. Words don't mean things.
Starting point is 00:43:23 No, quite literally. You said, come in never bring your children okay how does it feel like what do you say we never intended to make people feel like that and be like we're open i'll see y'all at the staff meeting bring your motherfucking kids i don't give a fuck okay wasn't that aggressive but yeah movies and fun for them like honestly no like to your point joelle like i know how like you you know how to get kids to just zone out it's called fucking games like ipads and shit especially in florida where storms happen all the kids know the drill as we get into the car or are we batting down the hatches we got our sandbags and our ipads and like external batteries and we're good right i just the the gall because I know there was nothing in there.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Like for somebody who's had to organize safety for people before, there's no additional checks. It's not like we're going to have food, like send us your dietary restrictions. It's not. Yeah, right. If we have to huddle in here for five days, these are our safety coordinators and the state knows where we are in case we need to be evacuated at a later there's no additional kind of information about how we're going to keep you safe it's just f this storm come to work which is bananas and i hope there's just a mass quitting after this just a
Starting point is 00:44:35 giant exodus of people and then this vice article and this vice article that like was telling the story they were talking to other employees and people like yo this place is trash and honestly that fucking email was all i had to do to speed up my fucking job search for the next thing i was already planning on leaving in a month but now i gotta get the fuck out now it's fucking can you imagine risking your life for postcard mania like dude i can't there's nothing like family family is really the only like risking my life when you're saying it like that it wouldn't be weed it wouldn't be video games damn she's not gonna be my job no wow anyway so it must be so hard having someone so dumb as your boss like it's just the american ain't that the truth it's the american way's like you, the person at the top is always the dumbest person.
Starting point is 00:45:27 And it just. Every American workplace is everybody who is the position beneath, like, the head of the, like, the company being like scratching their head, being like, this person is so fucking off their shit. Like, they're not even close to reality. Why do they keep writing that segue around the fucking office? It's stupid. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be back to Dish on the Royals right after this. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
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Starting point is 00:50:01 And it's not just Jeanette McCurdy who's glad their mom died. King Charles also, because now he's the king. And now that the official period of mourning has passed for Libby too, it's now it's time to see what has happened now that the dust has settled. Just a couple of just kind of quick things to touch on. His face will be on banknotes and coins starting in the middle of 2024 so get ready for that just which face i don't know does he get to choose youth it has to be this one right his current because that's when he was named king exactly something with my regal visage upon it no i would not want i wouldn't i would i would want like my 22 year old face or something on this not where he's at now. He looks like someone put him in the microwave for a couple seconds. Could you think if he was in a Pixar movie,
Starting point is 00:50:50 he could be like, yo, actually, could you put my Pixar rendering as my fucking thing? Shut the fuck up. That would be wild. I'm just saying if you had the power. I thought you were going to go with the Monsters, Inc. CEO. No, I'm just saying if you had, you got the clout. You got the clout as king.
Starting point is 00:51:03 I'm just saying if you're going to be on money, I i would want to look good what's the point of being rich and being on money like i think danny you would feel a little gross if your face was on money like real like you as the person that you are i think you would want to have fun i know you're you also have a sense of humor and i feel like you would maybe lean into the humor of it more than like no this is i'm gonna look i'm just saying all of our presidents that are on money was at the end of their life i know for abraham lincoln it was but for all the other presidents was it the end of their life that was snapshot and put on that bill or was it when they first you know like i'm just saying he i'm just saying he doesn't look great okay how does andrew jackson look the healthiest when he was was one of the most evil motherfuckers?
Starting point is 00:51:47 You should look more like shit, dude. So do they always have to do this? I don't pay attention to British. Do they always have to change the money when she's not going to be on anything else anymore? Yeah, I think the Canadian dollar, if I remember correctly, Elizabeth looks younger on that money. Right. And that's why Australians are like, we want Crocodile Hunter instead. Mr. Irwin like we want fucking the we want uh crocodile hunter instead mr erwin and rather than fucking the queen on our that's such a waste do they retire though like i'm sorry i'm fascinated by this but that's such a waste like we don't do they just like take out
Starting point is 00:52:17 all those all the ones with her face and they're not i don't know if they're like melting them down or restamping them or i'm not sure how it works. UK Zeitgang, let us know what happens to all that. Oh, here we go. Here's an article. What happens to the banknotes featuring the revered monarch? Yeah, I think they just start circulating that out. It's kind of like when you get new 20s and shit.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Like sometimes you're like, oh shit, you got one of these old 20s? Okay, drug dealer. See, you're not interacting with banks and shit. I got a $2 bill and I thought it was so cool, but I tried to use it to buy a lottery ticket and it rejected it. What? Oh, like in a machine? Yeah. Yeah, machines don't take $2 bills.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Because I'm like, this is legal tender. Exactly. This is illegal. Take this money. Make this money. Ain't no way you could take this from me. Anyway, shout out Bad Boy Records. This is another thing I do want to touch on.
Starting point is 00:53:04 The Royal Family's website, just so you notice notice let's see here our our homies have been demoted okay so when you go to the royal family page on the royal.uk you say okay here we go members of the royal family you got obviously the king and then got their own shit then we got the princess of wales oh wait hold on let me get their framing is terrible on this page. Oh, my God. Who designed this website? Let me get it. So it's actually stacking.
Starting point is 00:53:31 There we go. So in order. Here we go. The king, the queen consort, the Prince of Wales, the Princess of Wales, the Earl of Wessex. Okay. Who is he? Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Well, who's this other? Oh, the Countess of Wessex. I've seen her around. Oh, shit. Is that? Who is that is that hugh jackman and logan oh no that's oh that's the queen's sister yo her hair i'm not tell me that doesn't look like wolverine hair no it do it do okay and i'm sorry and no disrespect to the princess royal walk-in so that's how many that's where else we're at we're at the princess royal we passed logan now we're at the duke of gloucester. Now we got the Duchess of Gloucester. Which one of those white men?
Starting point is 00:54:07 I don't know. They put eight white men up and they were like... Oh, I think it's this dude in the corner. Where he's cut off? Yeah. Look, I told you, the framing,
Starting point is 00:54:14 whoever did the UX on this, or UI, I don't know. I'm not into web design. Do better. Then you get the Duchess of Gloucester. Then we get the Duke of Kent. Where the fuck is Harry and Meghan? Then we got the Princess Alexandra of kent where the fuck is harry and megan then we got the princess alexandra hello where oh shit there we go the duke of sussex oh there we go the duchess
Starting point is 00:54:32 of sussex and in bottom prince andrew they moved harry and megan's ass all the way to the fucking bottom you know what's funny this is a petty move like blocking someone that's actually a blessing right like if someone i loathe blocks me that's amazing i don't have to see your face anywhere you did on my casual streets what a blessing like you think you're hurting me but this is so wonderful i feel the same way here people who are ever going to visit this website and take a look at it you should be thinking about them last anyway. Don't be checking in on them. Don't talk to them.
Starting point is 00:55:09 You're either you came here for Megan and Harry or you came for these other folks. Right, right, right. And most likely it's these other folks. So, yeah, put them at the bottom. Get them out of everybody else's mind so they can leave left alone. Yeah, you're like, good. I'm glad I'm at the bottom of your dusty-ass website. Fucking sucks. You can't
Starting point is 00:55:27 even look at that shit on mobile. You do not want to be anywhere near you. You can't sign a document without having a hissy fit, and you're not even running this country. You're just a figurehead. Well, they say this is the intentional move by racist King Grandpa because since they want to be all woke and
Starting point is 00:55:43 shit and not keep their distance from the royal family, okay okay then you can be with the the worst of them prince i think you married a beautiful woman and i lost one like an idiot oh it sucks and finally this one really rubbed me the wrong way i don't know why but prince george william's son prince william's son is out here flexing on his classmates saying quote my father will be king so you better watch out end quote this is from royal reporters now they're saying he's just being cheeky and a young man no he's not i've been i've had motherfuckers say shit like this to me, to my face as a kid, we've all been around some cues. Like my dad's a cop. My dad's a lawyer.
Starting point is 00:56:28 You better shut the fuck up, man. See? And I'm like, also this Prince, you see a tough guy now, huh? Cause your dad's the king.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I think, Oh my God, him and his Draco Malfoy. It's the epitome of like, Oh, Doyle rules. Like I just, I know this this kid we all have dealt with this kid right we've all dealt with like the rich the richest kid in class what's weird is like we know
Starting point is 00:56:52 how his dad was in high school which is similar to this is that how william was too yeah you know he was all brolic he was like plus william was a teen heartthrob lest we forget children if you only know william by his looks now go ahead and take a peek around 96 when he was your age and you would be like holy crap and so yeah he was out here flaunting it's cheating on kate back then like i mean this is not at all he's a wealthy white kid whose family thinks they run a country like yeah of course he's gonna have this kind of inflated ego and uh disconnect from you know regular people i read that shit and i go oh man he's getting bullied they bullying him for that like that's like snitching you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:57:36 like if you said i don't know why like this was just kind of the thing like the kids that would say shit like that were like the most insecure kids obviously because they have to be like i'm bolstering my identity vis-a-vis my connection to this external thing my dad or parent who is a lawyer and then but they would always be like bullying you about shit i don't know this reminds you of somebody very specifically i'm not gonna drop names but they're they will always talk about their parent doing this i'm like bro i'm here right now in your face. Now what? Do something. Now give me your slunchables. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Or the other kind of treatment, which is adored to their face, but just smoked behind their back. You know, which is, I think it's much more painful because then the delusion is built around them so that they don't know until they're actually face to face with it. mean he's yeah it's a that's a tall order to be raised in like a royal family and like literally you're like and daddy's gonna be king you're like in the the weird tv shit i watch oh that's cool watch me be unrelatable also like your whole entire family like the stuff that the insults people can use against you it's like your whole entire family's in a tabloid like their business your dad cheating on your mom is like constantly with her best friend yeah oh my god they're like oh yeah people love your try guys yeah goes back you you are a you look like a thumb you are a three and you're with a ten although i've heard that she's not very nice either so i i'm just a harry and megan after this could you
Starting point is 00:59:05 imagine one day i'm just a girl at school who literally falls in love with a prince literally falls like lived the fairy tale at a young age went through hell with that just from a like first love standpoint gets married it's called like held up to crazy high standards of like oh it's beautiful bride and it's like the first royal wedding in forever. And then everyone turns on you, including your husband, and you have no friends inside. What a miserable existence. Okay, wait, are you talking about Princess Diana or Prince King? Because these are the same stories.
Starting point is 00:59:33 They have similar trajectories. Wait, who are you talking about there? Kate? I was talking about Kate, but they do have similar early life trajectories. Yeah, because I was like, wait, I hope you know that, obviously, like, I feel every black and brown person is a princess diana fan of course yeah well it's funny and then for kate to be like and then at your wedding everyone's talking about your sister's butt and that's what it was wasn't that
Starting point is 00:59:56 her sister what's the sister's name pippa pippa pippa what's your name wasn't that like i remember that was like the meme from that wedding was like, and Pippa, get out the way, y'all. Where's Pippa at? Because she was the next one to get married. They're like, oh, she's old news now. She's married. Who gives a fuck?
Starting point is 01:00:11 Who's next? Well, I want to keep kind of checking in with them because the Netflix, they released a teaser for the new season of The Crown, and it's all about Charles and Diana's divorce. And I guess the real royal family, they're freaking out because they are worried everyone is gonna realize that charles fucking sucks i don't know maybe that's where they find out for the first time it will introduce an entire new generation to the scandal
Starting point is 01:00:36 in a way that us yeah simply telling them about it cannot like oh the tiktok discourse alone you know bring it straight into my veins when i watch these kids lap this up and be like look at how they clamored to both princess diana movies and we already have like princess diana um what do they call those fan videos that they make fan cams yes those things yeah i love however they frame it it'll always be like did you know that prince harry's dad is actually also a king and that he they always do it like that okay here's the deal they're like this is sofia coppola this is nicholas cage this is francis ford coppola this is jason schwartzman here's the deal they're all in the same family like wild zooms and we we're like, yeah, we've been on.
Starting point is 01:01:27 We've been new. But it's cute. I told my parents, I was like, yo, you guys hear this really old band named Queen? And they were like, sweet baby chops. Yeah. They're like, aw. Go sit down. I was a nine-year-old little girl.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I was at my first run-in with Freddie Mercury. I was like, that's his band Queen. They're amazing. We're like, wait, where, where? I know. That was me when Wayne's World came out. And I'm like, yo, we got to get the soundtrack for this one song and they're like what and i played it they're like motherfucker are you for we have this album i'm like you just
Starting point is 01:01:52 bought this old dusty cassette tape anyway so now the family has really planned apparently they have some sort of like like plan to protect his reputation i have no idea yeah like do you have a time machine to do that that seems like an effective way and now the one thing that we've learned is uh since the queen passed away she actually watched the crown that's wild yeah her like biographer someone said that the queen had a habit of settling in to watch the Netflix series on Sundays. What did she think of the Olivia Colman years? What did she think about the early relationship with, because those early, like really like past,
Starting point is 01:02:32 right. As she's getting married and crowned, like that shit was bananas. Cruel. So much stuff happened. And they say Charles might be too, because apparently at an event he did like so he came up to a group of people and introduced himself and he said hello quote this is a quote
Starting point is 01:02:50 apparently he said hello nice to meet you i'm nowhere near how they portray me on netflix this is all they have to worry about though is the reputation so i guess exactly look that's how vekna introduces himself at parties so you're good company. So I don't know what this plan is exactly, because there's nothing really you can do except for, I don't know, just seed stories like in the paper. But like in 2020, the UK culture secretary tried to add a health warning to the show being like, hey, this is fictional, just so y'all know. And then last November, the royal family had sought legal advice for how to deal with the show. But at the time, it would be like for a potential libel case for the queen. But now that she is, you know, she's in the ether. Maybe there's no there's no case there.
Starting point is 01:03:34 But just an interesting sidebar from our writer, J.M. Like, you know, like when you read all these things, like or when you watch a like a historical drama or whatever, like even if it is historical they'll always be like this is a work of fiction any similarity to actual persons living or dead or actual events is purely coincidental that came about because of a lawsuit involving a royal family specifically the exiled russian prince who had murdered rasputin he sued mgm or but his wife actually sued MGM after they made a Rasputin film because in the film the prince was like yes I admitted to killing Rasputin but his wife's character was sexually assaulted by Rasputin in the film which didn't happen in real life and MGM was like yo you're adding this like salacious thing in there that is not is completely inaccurate and when they
Starting point is 01:04:23 were warned of the fact you know quote factual discrepancy they fired the woman who was doing the research whoa yeah and then so the prince's wife won the lawsuit and a judge was basically like you should add a disclaimer to the movie and eventually all movies started doing similar things just to avoid litigation so shit is wild and never ending i do want to talk about one thing though. While we're still here. Because we do have time. Rather I'm going to make time. Speaking of upcoming projects.
Starting point is 01:04:52 We were just before we started recording. We saw the headline about the upcoming Blade film. Which I am very very excited about. And apparently that Mahershala Ali. Who is playing Blade blade Academy award winner is unhappy with the script. I just want to put that out here as I know we're various fans for various reasons, but what the is,
Starting point is 01:05:18 do you think the script is that bad? Like how bad does a film have to be for the actor to be like, yo, man, this shit is fucking, well, they lost their director, Assam Tariq, right before shooting. Like, how bad does a film have to be for the actor to be like, yo, man, this shit is fucking not good. Well, they lost their director, Bassam Tariq, a month before shooting. It's not good.
Starting point is 01:05:30 The rumor is just that apparently there's two fight scenes. It's not really connected. People feel Kevin is not there enough, or whatever that means. Kevin's running an entire studio. I don't know how much he's visiting each individual project. so i just i don't i i hope they figure it out maher shalali is an oscar winner he this is his first really big project post that oscar yeah we've seen what happens to great black oscar winners who enter superhero movies with terrible scripts and not great direction uh we don't need a hally berry repeat okay she deserved better
Starting point is 01:06:05 marshall deserves better yeah bleed like come on it's gonna be so sick if you get it right so i just hope they bring in uh a new writer franklin leonard who i know has been on the show before and created the blacklist said i have no sacred influence over this process but i would love to see what gina price blythe would would do with it she just did the woman king so yeah maybe marvel's listening please listen who's writing the script now i don't know who the writer is on blade i think the only thing that i would say is um at this point there are so many people to service there's so many you could and by that i mean like so many characters no no longer do you have just typically solo films that are completely on their own you are like we saw with dr strange the recent dr strange they had to infuse multiple other characters
Starting point is 01:06:58 right in there um one was the introduction of america ch. And so I feel like with Blade, it's not just because of how many, how it has to also infuse with the Disney Plus shows. It just does. Like, all has to be canonical. Right. That can be a lot for anyone undertaking this. You're not typically just making a Blade movie. You're making a Blade plus an introduction to maybe the X-Men or I don't know. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Like, crazy. a blade movie you're making a blade plus an introduction to maybe the x-men or i don't know like crazy they're finding crazy ways to back backdoor enter in new characters to build on new avengers or this or that and like eventually because all of these have to connect and so i do think that that could hurt sometimes yeah but also marvel always available if you hey we'll punch this real good for you i'll send you my real i'm repped by caa kevin yeah uh daily zeitgeist kevin so let me know you know uh haven't seen most of them i haven't seen a lot of your work so in that way my brain is not tainted i'm bringing original ideas because i don't know about the mcu so think about that kevin but do you know what i mean like with that they made a joke about it She-Hulk of how many cameos that they had to have or were going to have.
Starting point is 01:08:10 And I love that they made that joke. But I do feel that every writer that takes on something is going to have to make this connect in the MCU in multiple ways to both the Disney Plus shows and the future films. And so it doesn't mean that every, obviously, that every character is going to show up, but it does mean that you're servicing multiple different storylines. I don't think that Shang-Chi had to do that too much, but obviously it was setting him up to be joining the Avengers. And so the next Captain America film will be introducing.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And so I think maybe people don't always consider that when you're taking this on. It's not just typically a solo film. It's a solo. Plus, who else are we introducing to them? Because even then it's like because wasn't rehearsal sort of like teased out at the end of was it Eternals? Yeah, there's just a quick glimpse of him like just off camera. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Right. So like it's even then it's like, OK like, okay, we're so far ahead of it. Okay, make sure he gets his little voice in there at the end. Like, woof. Nah. Yeah, the writer Stacey Osei-Kufour, who is best known for Watchmen and Pen15. So, not, like, a very talented writer, obviously. I'm just curious to know, like, what's going on and how it's happening and why it's not working for several of like the leaders on the project right i just want a good
Starting point is 01:09:31 blade movie that's all i'm asking for like please figure it out take another year or two whatever you need to do but like please give us that for all the half people out there blade speaks to me please please and just i need and also just oh man i just need that music too but i i honestly the complaint that there's only two fight scenes is a little worrying for for a blade film like unless it's so fucking good like that there he's like i know it only sounds like just two fight scenes but there's a lot there's a lot of internal fighting that's also occurring off camera and that is in fact the biggest uh showpiece of the film uh well danny thank you so much for stopping by uh the daily zeitgeist always good to see you where can people find you and follow you and and check you out and do all that i am at ms danny fernandez it's ms d-a-n-i-f-e-r-n-a-n-d-e-z
Starting point is 01:10:23 please follow me on twitter and instagram because I guess my industry pays attention to that. Yeah. What's a tweet or some other social media posts that you've been digging on? Oh, my gosh. I had one. One was from Kid. It's at Kidversations, like Kid Convers like kid conversations it said this is from a kid is chicken the animal spelled the same as chicken the food and it said my child about to be shook oh no and then another one oh my gosh this was the response and it was from um another mom it said when i when i told a kid i used to oh from the tutor when I told a kid I used to, oh, from a tutor, when I told a kid I used to tutor that bacon came from pigs, he said, quote, we need to make animals that deserve to die so it's okay to eat them. Kids are so wild. I like that. You could be a political consultant.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Kids are so wild. He's thinking like a political consultant. It's like, okay, well then we need a group that people will agree deserves to die and then go after them. Oh, these are the things in my books. We're eating them. Oh, okay. And they deserve to die, right? Oh, it's not about vengeance. Anymore? Oh, you know, I'm always a wealthy.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yes. Since we were talking about British people, I have a British one. It was it's a Venn diagram. It's about the one about ants. Oh, yeah. Did you do that one? Yeah, we saw that one. Yeah it about the one about ants? Oh, yeah. Did you do that one? Yeah, we saw that one. Yeah, about the queen and taking shit back to their colony and shit. Okay, never mind.
Starting point is 01:11:51 You did it. We're on the same wavelength. Those are my tweets. Great minds thinking alike. Joelle Monique, thank you so much for coming by. Where can people find you and follow you and check you out and all that? Yeah, y'all know me. I'm'm joelle monique you can find me all over the internet at joelle monique it's j-o-e-l-l-e-m-o-n-i-q-u-e i've been enjoying uh mauve's robot otherwise known as thorn princess
Starting point is 01:12:17 on twitter strippers have been telling you all the recession is coming baby we are feeling it in the clubs everywhere you know it's bad if girls from miami are coming to new york to work listen to the sex workers they know what's going on dude there was one who had a post like three months ago who was like y'all i'm working new york with all the finance dudes it's coming and everyone was like yo and then was talking about all it was i started following the account because the tweet kind of blew up and was like giving like all these like economics lessons through the strip club i'm like holy shit yep there it is let's see some tweets that i like first one is from gregory midnight possum at cat underscore beltane tweeted every two to three months there's some scandal about a guy named like daiquiri dan who i've never heard of and i look him up and it's like daiquiri dan is an american youtube
Starting point is 01:13:03 personality he is worth 46.3 million dollars 15 million dollars of which came from becoming the spokesman for the food almonds in 2018 yes that is exactly what the experience is like of reading like yo what the fuck is this bean dad hot girl midsummer at very mimi tweeted. Some of you need to try a guy named Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. And then I love Jamie Loftus replied under there said, what if you had a consensual workplace relationship with Jesus Christ? Oh, my God. It would be drama. And then one more stone cold fox at roast Malone underscore tweeted.
Starting point is 01:13:42 I always said to wake up alarms, one for the person I want to be and one for the person I am. Yes. I felt that in my bones. You can find me at Miles of Grey on Twitter and Instagram. Also, check me out on Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties, the basketball podcast with Jack. Also, 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra, where we talk 90 Day Fiance. And yeah, find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We got a Facebook fan page website, DailyZeitgeist.com.
Starting point is 01:14:10 We post episodes and the footnotes. Footnotes. Thank you. Where we link off to all the articles we discussed, as well as the song we are going to write out on. Today, my comrade in Christ, we are going to be writing out on this track by Freddie Dredd, who's a Canadian, like, funk artist. And I heard this shit on TikTok, but it sounds... This shit has hit so low,
Starting point is 01:14:32 like, on the low end, that it will blow the doors off your fucking car. So if you want to do that, I challenge y'all, blast this while you pull up into your parking lot, and maybe your boss will stop fucking with you, because you will seem like you're the wrong one to fuck with today uh it is called wait let me make sure i have it's called wrath let me just make sure i got the right one yep it's called wrath yeah it's i'm telling
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