The Daily Zeitgeist - Fox: KANYE > TAYLOR SWIFT, Banksy Banksy’s It Up On A Banksy 10.9.18

Episode Date: October 9, 2018

In episode 248, Jack and Miles are joined by Kinda Dating podcast host Natasha Chandel to discuss website traffic rankings, Venom and A Star Is Born crushing the box office, a new story that reveals that dogs aren't as smart as we thought, Taylor Swift finally getting political, all the state deadlines for registering to vote, Kanye West's clear mental health issues, a new poll showing the gender gap when it comes to party support, Banksy's newest Banksy idea, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Top Websites Ranking2. 'Venom' breaks records, 'A Star Is Born' shines at the box office3. Your Dog May Be Smart, but She’s Not Exceptional4. What Made Taylor Swift Finally Get Political?5. How to Register to Vote: Deadlines for Each State6. Fox News guest @charliekirk11 loved when Kanye went on a pro-Trump rant—but now wants Taylor Swift to shut up? The hypocrisy is staggering 7. Pete Davidson Issues Mental Health Plea to Kanye West on SNL8. Survey of battleground House districts shows Democrats with narrow edge9. Why putting £1m through the shredder is Banksy’s greatest work10. WATCH: Wayne Snow - Nothing Wrong Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh. Oh, Brian. Yeah. Oh, Brian. Yeah. That a.k.a. is courtesy of at Miles of Gray. Thank you so much. Who I said, oh, man, I didn't come up with an a.k.a. today.

And he was like, I don't know. Super producer Nick was like, oh, just jam any old word into anything. It doesn't matter. You guys aren't even trying anymore. And Miles came up with that on the spot. Boom. Very talented and also, yes, our standards have dropped in our one year on air. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Bray!

Happy birthday to us. Happy birthday to us. Happy birthday to us. Happy birthday to the Daily Psych-Eyes. Cause now we are one years old. Drop the fucking bomb! Woo! Yes, it has been one year. And we realized that, or I realized that as I was recording the introduction just minutes ago.

You're not good with milestones. I am not good with milestones. And you're mishandling my kidney stones. Hey, ask my wife, am I right? Milestones. Wow. Okay. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious comedian, performer, writer, producer, creative executive,

and host of the Kinda Dating podcast, Natasha Chandell. Hello. What's up? Happy birthday. Thank you so much. You guys don't look a day over eight months. Thank you. Thanks. Or sounded.

Just look a little bit closer and watch me smile. The lines will come out. Right. What did you get us for our birthday? I gave you love. Thank you. That's right. Right. What did you get us for our birthday? I gave you love. Thank you. That's right. Okay.

That is what we asked for. My love language is gifts. Oh, I see. Anyway, we can talk about that later. Yeah, yeah. I'll get something after. I just didn't want to, you know, ruin your surprise. Even if you have like a half-used Starbucks gift card in your wallet, I'll take that.

You know what I mean? Because a cold brew ain't cheap. I don't want to give up my Starbucks. You are not kind. But I have some lip gloss that's half-used. Is it lip glass? Because that's the only kind I like. It's strawberry.

Isn't that Mac? Remember that? Lip glass? Anybody here? Anybody else? A weird teenager from the late 2000s? It smelled really good, but then when you ate it, it wasn't all that good. That was Juicy Tubes.

Oh, okay, my bad. Juicy Tubes had the fucking flavors. I remember Lip Glass just looked... Anyway, don't worry about me. Anyways, today's episode is going to be just a retrospective of the last year. Nope, that's not the case because I had no idea it was our one-year anniversary. So instead, Natasha, we're going to get to know you even better in a moment. But first, we're going to tell our listeners what we're talking about. And it's just an average,

everyday, ordinary show. We're going to talk about the latest traffic rankings on the entire internet. We're going to talk about Kanye, what he's up to. So it is kind of a retrospective because that's what we've been talking about all year. We're going to talk about the weekend box office, a big weekend at the BO, Boffo BO, as the kids say. We're going to talk about dogs v. cats. There is a new scientific study on this. We're going to talk about Taylor Swift. She has finally chosen a side. We're going to talk about the gender gap when it comes to party support in the latest polls. We're going to talk about Banksy going full Banksy on a Banksy. Good headline from Miles there. And all of that and more. But first, Natasha, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

So I actually just looked at this yesterday night to prep for today, but it was on breast pain, guys. Okay. And this is not because I have anything, but I was like, this is a common female issue. And I know that you guys are so interested in it. Yes. a common female issue and i know that you guys are so interested in it yes but but people's like breasts are asymmetrical and it makes me really really paranoid even though i know nothing is wrong but i'm constantly freaking out about it and so and it's like not much it's just like a tiny tiny amount but it freaks me out like different sizes yeah like one day i'll wake up and it feels

like one looks slightly bigger and then i just get like psycho about it and I Google it. And like every doctor is like 100% of women have asymmetrical breasts. But it just no matter what, you get paranoid because of breast cancer. Oh, yeah. Fears of breast cancer. And it's always like, well, one will look off and you're like, fuck, is that what this means? Right, right, right. I have a lot to curse, right? Yeah, yeah. You are. You're the only one talking about breast cancer and it's always like, well, one will look off and you're like, fuck, is that what this means? I don't have a lot to curse, right? You only went talking about breast cancer.

But I think I'm safe. No, I think it's very normal. And especially once breastfeeding comes into the picture, man, those things go off on their own. They go in crazy directions. I'm not there yet.

I know you're not there. I'm not there yet. But I'm just saying, it's an adventure. Something has happened to you since you started breastfeeding. I am expressing right now through my shirt.

I have two wet discs. I think it's called let down, right? Yeah, let down. The thing, are you about even numbers in general? Do you like even numbers over odd numbers? Are you just about symmetry

and balance in every dimension of your life? Balance for sure. Maybe not symmetry, but balance. But I guess I would prefer an even number. I haven't really overthought that too much. I overthink that. As a kid, I was like, one of my OCD things is staying away from odd numbers.

I was like, no, no, no. Oh, you know what? I like things that go right down the middle. I will reveal something extremely weird. Guys, I don't know why I'm doing this on the show. No, please. You know when you walk on cracks in the street? Break your mother's back.

Yeah, but if my right foot steps on a crack, I have to, on the next one, be my left foot on a crack. Wow. So I guess it is symmetry. Will your gait change? Yeah, it does. I slow down my pace to be like, oh, no left. No, I do weird stuff like that with sidewalks too.

Yeah. I usually like to hit the same foot with the thing. Oh, okay, good. So at least I'm not. That's right. We'll go get lunch, and Jack will be, like, we'll get to our building, and he'll be like, hey, I'll be right back. And then he'll redo the path.

And I'm like, what the fuck is this dude doing? I have to walk around the block three times before we get off the block. We all have our things, you know? Right. Miles, are you asymmetrical at all? Because I've talked before about how uh i kept my backpack on my right shoulder when i was a kid and then like one day looked in the mirror and like i had muscles on one side of my body like none on i'm very right side dominant yeah me too

very much so like basketball man if you want to defend me force me to my left yeah i mean i'll do it i'm not comfortable do not tell the cavanaugh girls about your secret, man. It doesn't matter. I'm still jamming. We are, Natasha. We're playing the Kavanaugh girls in a game of two on two. To hopefully get her father to resign. Yeah. But we'll see how that goes. He talks all that shit about how good a basketball coach he is. But we're going to show them what's what.

How do you define a crack, though? Are you talking about like, can it be like where two cement pavers have met? That's what I mean. That's what I mean. Yeah. I don't mean like a random crack. Well, what if you're like on some like old European cobblestone street?

Are you like sea walking? No, cobblestone I'm okay with. Like I can't. Because you're like, that makes sense. Yeah, it's just too much. But if it's just like regular pavement and they're just those regular cracks. And then organic cracks from the heat or whatever

do not count. No, no, those don't count. I don't know, something, maybe just because I can feel that on my foot and then I feel off. I don't know. There's something about the human mind that I think just craves that sort of, I don't know. Because we see patterns and then we want to engage in them somehow. But yeah, I look like I'm running tires when I'm walking down the street. I'm just like doing the...

Never have him get coffee for you. It's a mess mess i just come back drenched in coffee natasha what is something you think is overrated marriage hey yeah sorry to the married one no that's okay that is my nickname i don't believe that other people shouldn't get married i find it overrated for myself like as in for people to define their life out of marriage. Or to say that, like, especially for girls, you know, we're trained when we're young. It's like, I'm going to get married and I'm going to have kids. And I'm like, what does that even mean?

Sure. And so now I tell people, I'm like, I'll get married if I find the right person. Right. Right, right, right. I'll have kids if I feel like right person right right i'll have kids if i feel like it's the right partner right but i'm not gonna like just go out there on a trek to get get married i think that's but my dad always tells me every time i go home he like last time i went back to toronto he sat me down to say okay i think it's time you need to get Maddie. Oh, no. And I'm like, what does that mean?

He's like, just to get Maddie. And I'm like, to who? Just do it. To who? I was literally like the homeless guy He starts looking out

the window behind you like, let's see, let's see. How about him? Did I just completely misunderstand how this works?

That is amazing. And it was just that easy? Wow. Do you have siblings? One older brother who's married. He's like the right, he did everything the right way. Yeah, he's married.

What's his career? He recently had a baby, engineer. Okay. Oh, wow. Yeah, she's a physical therapist. They did it in their 20s. Right, right, right.

And you know, they just had their first baby. Just somebody that your dad picked off the street for him? Yeah. And he was like, yeah. I was like, hey, get married or you know what I do?

Thankfully. I'll point out the window whoever this figure is at. the right one for him did you have a was there a lot of pressure to achieve in your family like is there like you know do your parents say like oh you know natasha's out there in la doing whatever meanwhile our good son who's married yeah you know you know it's funny it's like academically i was the overachiever i was always like the honors kid i started school at three instead of four. I was a year ahead. I was like, academically.

But then in life, I think I'm their child that they wish achieved more. Right, for sure. And by that, I just mean like the milestones of like getting married and kids and stuff. Yeah, you'll be fine. You'll be happy. That's what there should be that they're like.

Yeah, that's true. But now my mom is also like, because I had my first nephew, and so they're just on But now my mom is also like, because we just had, I had my first nephew. And so they're just on a, my mom called me the other day to just say, I think you should have a kid. Right. Yeah. My mom did that to me for the first time.

I think, I think that your parents and yeah, I think your parents are probably just more honest about how they feel. Oh, totally. Because I, my parents were just like, dude, whatever you want. Like, we don't care. But once we had kids, like, the look on their face, like, they just, I was like, oh, I didn't know you guys went this happy. Like, I didn't know you were just this constantly overjoyed.

Y'all didn't look like this at my wedding. Yeah, exactly. No, it's totally true. Like, I was like, oh, so it was really stressful when we weren't having kids, like, right away. Yeah, damn. Wait, so did both your parents just, like, melt down? Oh, they're just so happy. Wow.

They do. They do get like that. My parents are so elated now. Yeah. I get it. All right. Me and kids, man. We're fucking up, you know?

According to them. It's all good. Because guess what? I'm happy. You know what I mean? Thank you. High five. High five.

It's all about self-care, like I did this weekend. Miles, what did you do for self-care? Because we were talking ahead of the weekend. We were like, man, we need to just decompress. Yeah, the Kavanaugh thing. For us, the Zeitgang, they get to digest the finished product of us just being so engaged with the news and then having a good time with it. Going through everything from that hearing to just watching just the whole democracy,

representative democracy just crumble kind of in front of our faces was a little trying. So guess what? This weekend I ate so much just to feel good because that's how I take care of myself. That's how I treat myself. Some people like to shop. Others lift weights. I eat garlic bread, okay? And I ate a whole loaf of garlic bread from the Smokehouse in Burbank.

What's up? If you're listening to this, you probably don't because everybody who works there is 83 years old. But I ate a whole loaf of garlic bread, French dip sandwich, mashed potatoes and gravy for my dinner Friday. Then Saturday, I had basically an entire French baguette worth of sandwich, but tuna and turkey, an almond croissant. Then I had some mofongo, you know, shout out to all the boricua out there, all the Puerto Rican people. Had some mofongo, had some papas rellenas.

I had two slices of tres leches cake, two cans of jupina, one thing of passion fruit juice. You sound like... It's like my whole week. Yo, then on Sunday, I had to have so many hot wings. Shout out to Wing so many hot wings. Shout out to Wingstop holding it down.

40 pieces, all flats, lemon pepper, voodoo fries. Let's go. Wow. And I'm back to zero. That's how I feel. And now I'm a little bit more re-energized. You did the right thing, though. Carbs.

It was a very carb-heavy thing. Carbs are good for the soul. For the soul. Yeah. There has to be some connection between that and our brain chemistry, right? I think it is. I think it's like carbs are just sugar, and so it spikes your sugar up. But if I'm trying to change my fuel source to keto, you know, I don't know. Anyway.

You're fine. Sorry, I digress. Back to you. You sounded like Kenan Thompson doing his David Ortiz character there for a minute. Just like listing off foods. Big poppy, yeah. Yeah. Natasha, what is something you think is underrated?

Oh, you know, I don't know if this counts. I think directness is underrated. Oh, yeah. No, that's valid. I'm a very direct person. And at least I'm always like, hey, you get exactly. I don't think that means being rude. And I think a lot of people are scared of being direct. But I'm like, at least you know where the person is standing at all times. You're not having to read between the lines and shit. And I just wish more people were just a little bit more direct.

Yeah. And that does not mean being rude or being arrogant or- Yeah, or tactless. Yeah. But you should be honest sometimes. It just means like, even when you're dating, like we talk about this on my podcast a lot, where it's like, you know, you don't have to lead somebody on, but you could be kind and just let them down and let them go so that they're not like hanging around forever.

Right. You could just be like, hey, you know, I had a really great date, but I didn't feel the chemistry. Yeah. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck.

Here's a half new Starbucks card. And finally. Here's a half-used Starbucks card. And finally, what's a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? Guys, because I'm in this dating world, so I'm just going to keep it to that. Bring it. The myth is that love conquers all. And that's not a negative thing. That's not like being a Debbie Downer.

If you talk to any therapist in the world, they will tell you that the number one myth that people come in with is that love conquers all. It's like you could be with an addict and you could be like, oh, I'm just going to love them to death. And love doesn't fix problems. You can love them to death.

Yes, you can. You enable them. Yes, very true. But like real love is like self-love. So like self-love can conquer all. I'm getting fucking deep, guys. No, no, I'm sorry. Mary J. took me away.

Yes. No, I'm just saying self-love can conquer all. Yeah, that's true. So like if, again, let's use the addict example. If you're an addict, then love for yourself and true love for yourself can help you to like push you to hopefully make the right decision to get the help but not somebody else support can be good but not like unconditional love to the point that the person is just like well i know they're gonna be there for me because the addict's mind can get and when you have more self-love or you know your own worth you'll be less susceptible

to people taking advantage of you or you'll probably be able to create better boundaries too when you have an idea of who I am and what I love about myself and you say, wait, is this jibing well? Nope.

I need to have some boundaries. Yeah, you're not seeking on the outside. Exactly. You got to live from the inside out. Don't let these outside factors inform your feeling on the inside. That doesn't make sense

because you're living from the inside, child. Somebody on Twitter was saying, what episode of the Cracked Podcast, a podcast I hosted starting four years ago, five years ago, what episode of the Cracked Podcast was it where you said love is modern America's religion?

Oh my God, wow. I was like, yo, I don't even remember saying that, period. I don't remember, I'm married. Yeah, but that's pretty funny. That's gonna happen a lot too, right? You say things and you're like, holy shit, did I drop that wisdom bomb? Oh, yeah.

That's why I love Twitter and I'm like, yeah, that's right, I did say that. But I do think that, yeah, it's exactly what you're talking about, that we are just counting on this external form of entire spiritual validation to come in and just make everything

all right we got the circuitry completely backwards right yeah right i mean that's right all right let's talk about traffic rankings all right la the most traffic the most next actually probably not true anymore no i think i think we talked about this a few episodes back i think nashville is the worst really? It's all these cities that are really cool places to live that everybody heard they're cool places to live, and now entire new

cities worth of people have moved into infrastructure that was not built for that many people. But we're talking about a different traffic. We're talking about web traffic. I'm sorry. Oh, I really was thinking. I was like, wow, this is a segment. That's how fluid. They do that. They analyze traffic on the show. Traffic. What do you think? How's Toronto?

How's the 6666 doing? So I always find it interesting just to check in every once in a while with what people, what websites people are visiting on the internet because they do release that similar web on a regular, I think, monthly basis, puts out their rankings. There's a website called google.com that is apparently number one. Facebook, all the use. It wouldn't be too interesting to just go through all of the top 50, but there are some interesting things if you check what's up and what's down. So in America, Zillow is down seven spots. I think that's another sign that the housing market

isn't doing great. And that's something that you hear from people in real estate, that the housing market has kind of stalled out a little bit. ESPN is up 10 spots, I think partially because football season and Major League Baseball postseason kind of coincide and NBA offseason is kind of heating up towards preseason. And I just said season so many times in a single sentence that it might be a world record. Season. But I also think it might be the fact that people need something to, they need relief from the news cycle.

And sports is almost like modern America's religion. Wow. It really is. Mark that here. The October 9th episode of Daily Psychics. That's just what I call everything. Weather. That's the most overused phrase.

And honestly, guys, I think eating is America's religion. Right. Weather.com is up 11 spots, I think, because of hurricane season and probably changing weather. So it seems like seasonal rankings. Yeah. But CNN gained five spots and Fox News dropped four spots. And these are all the biggest movers in the top 50.

Nobody else is really moving. The top 10 is almost completely identical to last month's top 10 because at this point, you're talking about hundreds of millions of people going from one site to another if you're going to move from two to one. What are the top three? The top three are Google, Facebook, and number three is YouTube. Ah, interesting. Amazon number four, but guess what number five is? Yahoo.com.

No way. It's because they're hanging in there, man. It's because the elderly still use Yahoo. They get everything from Yahoo. When I used to make videos, digital videos that were just mass syndicated for the internet, Yahoo and MSN would buy videos. You're like, yo, who goes there? And you can make something like Desi Arnaz's Beauty Secrets, and it would do like 5 million views.

And you did like three things to know about John Legend or whatever, and it'd get like 100,000. Right. So a lot of people can just be on Yahoo and get everything they need. So it's like an older demo. Yeah, it's like a one-stop shop for sure. Yeah. It's basically they syndicate stuff like it's a newspaper so that you know old

people who are used to newspapers can just find it's all here and i saw a video have you seen the new halloween costumes for pugs other kinds of videos that do very well right but uh old people and other people using yahoo.com uh the rest of the internet is way better than yahoo.com the stuff you're getting is watered down garbage. Yeah, y'all are still watching real video clips on there.

Check out the front page of Reddit. That is going to blow your fucking mind. Yo, for old persons, if you throttle them off of Yahoo

to the front page of Reddit, they would, someone would have some kind of breakdown. Yeah. I feel like I have a breakdown every time I look on Reddit because like, I can't get it. I'm fried. breakdown. I feel like I have a breakdown every time I look on Reddit. I know.

Because I can't get it. I'm fried. Yeah. Other people who will have a meltdown, mentally healthy people. That we know of. Uh-huh. Yeah, exactly. You seem very direct, so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.

You know, Reddit, it's really also about curating for what you like. If you just go to R all and you see everything, then you're going to see kind of all dimensions of yeah right in its great and worst forms but then you can find things that are just like for me i got my arsenal shit i got you know things about uh making music other ones and then you have like the real communities like that then you have like the maga like subreddits where i love to go to because it's always fun to see how the diehard MAGA people are making sense of news that we're looking at and how it's being spun to sort of keep the narrative in check of like, everything is actually fine.

Right. And that's really what it is, what that subreddit offers people. Yeah. It's interesting CNN gained five spots and Fox News dropped four, I guess. That's kind of interesting. There's just more terror on the middle to left. And so everybody's just constantly refreshing maybe. But if it dropped four, would you think that maybe from that movement that some Fox people have ditched Fox for CNN?

Maybe. Or maybe that entire population is just checking the site less this month, and CNN people are checking the site more. Yeah, I mean, there were a lot of reasons to want that coverage, CNN's coverage. Right. Yeah, I agree. And Drudge Report went up one spot. Oh, good for Matt.

Yeah, good for Matt. Old Matty. Still beating New York Times is the Drudge Report. Jesus. How many spots different is Drudge Report from New York Times? It's pretty significant. Drudge Report is number 39. New York Times is not in the top 50.

Well, New York Times also now has a block, right? You can only get like three free articles a month. There's also that. Unless you, yeah. Yeah. I mean, a lot of these sites are just about curation, though, when you think about it. Like, Reddit is curation. Yahoo, we were talking about, is curation.

And Drudge is pure curation. So, I mean, it's- It's predation. Right. And it's hard to be the New York Times and actually have to pay to create real content, like, based on what is actually happening. Yep. Yeah.

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And something we like to do every once in a while is check in with the box office to see, you know, Hollywood's our dream factory, guys. Oh, yeah, yeah. You could almost say Hollywood is America's religion. Religion, right, right. So this weekend, Venom and A Star is Born both crushed at the American box office and global box office. Heading into the weekend, my guilty pleasure is sadly that I pay attention to box office prognostications.

And they were saying that it was going to make like, they were wondering if it could break Gravity's record for biggest October box office ever, which is 55 million. And usually they're like within 5 million. This was with Venom? Venom, yeah. Venom made 80 million this weekend in America.

What did Star is Born make? Like $43, $45, something like that. Really did really well, though, which is crazy. And it's also the type of movie they usually look at a cinema score, like what people said about it on exit polling, and it got an A, which is usually a sign that it's going to hold really well. What did Venom get?

Because its reviews weren't- B plus. So about what poorly reviewed comic book movies generally get is a B plus. It's like fans are not willing to admit they completely hated it, so they're still like, yeah, man, it was awesome. And then on the car ride home that's when you go man that shit sucked right?

yeah when you think about it when it like festers a little bit or you just have to get over that denial that you're like damn that was a fucking L I just took in the theater and then you have to be like no wait that was bullshit yeah I guess two totally different movies I was a little surprised by Venom's success just because it is sort of a niche comic book thing.

Oh, God. Jack. Sort of an anti-hero. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. I mean, when you think about the real tentpole sort of films. I mean, but Venom was, I think, inevitable in terms of stature. The character was one of the best villains.

Right. I mean, I'm crazy looking forward to that movie. Oh, wow. And I hated Venom as a character, but that was the thing. You hated him so much, you're like, wow, it's so fascinating. He's so fucked up, but I like dark guys. Are you interested in Venom? I know a lot of people that are just interested because of Tom Hardy.

Right. No, no, I'm super into it. I like a lot of people that are just interested because of Tom Hardy. Right. No, no, I'm super into it. I like a lot of comic book movies. It could have been anybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. But I was super into Spider-Man growing up. I'm going to see just because of Tom Hardy.

That's Tom Hardy porn? I'm a Tom Hardy head. I'm a Hardy boy. I'm a Hardy boy. The fact that he was playing it made it better. Yeah, yeah. We have the same birthday. I support everybody with the same birthday.

You're basically the same person. That's what I like to think. I also have the same birthday as Prince Harry, but I'm not even close. Oh, come on. Don't sell yourself short, man.

Thank you. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. And Dan Marino. And Dan Marino. And I think Agatha Christie. One of the great performances in comedy history,

Dan Marino and Ace Ventura. Oh, yes. One of the great transphobic portrayals too in that film was also. Oh, geez. That's the great transphobic portrayals in that film was also. Yeah, oh, geez. That's another film you look back, you're like, damn, they really, okay.

Uh-huh. I saw A Star is Born. It was very good. Yeah, I keep hearing it's amazing. Oh, and the thing I have to ask every person who sees the film, what's it like when Lady Gaga finally goes, oh, oh, oh.

So, okay. Because in my mind, that's the fucking climax of the film and the credits come up. It is, and it happens early in the movie, which's the fucking climax of the film and the credits come up. It is, and it happens early in the movie, which is sort of a problem, but not that big of a problem. The best part happens pretty early in the movie. That scene fucking rules her performance,

and that song is better than I expected it to be. That moment, however, it was like this weird existential experience because I was just hearing that song for maybe the second or third time during the course of the movie. But I was hearing that clip for the 3000th time. Right, right, right. And so it almost sounded like they just inserted a clip like in the middle of it because my brain was like. You're like, you know that has its own thing. Right.

That's odd. So it was weird. But yeah, I was actually, you know, she was like. You're like, you know that has its own thing. Right. That's odd. So it was weird. But yeah, I was actually, you know, she was amazing. I was expecting her to be amazing. He was really good. He like did this voice that like, it didn't seem like he was doing a voice. Yeah. But because you know how Bradley Cooper normally talks.

Yeah, because H. Allen Scott, when he was here, he was like, no, I'm not fucking with Bradley Cooper. But you were moved. I was. I thought it was pretty good. But Scott, when he was here, he was like, nah, I'm not fucking with Bradley Cooper. But you were moved by the coop. I thought it was pretty good. But then again, he also plays Raccoon. Right. Yeah, exactly.

He's got range. So I guess he does. Yeah, he does. I mean, really, his role in Wet Hot American Summer to me is probably his greatest achievement.

Yeah, the peak, the beginning and peak of his career, much like this movie, started out too high. So there's a scientific study out that is going to throw a little more gasoline on the fire of an ongoing conversation of like, are dogs smarter than cats? And I don't know, this is a debate we sort of track here.

We it's like, well, it is a very much a cultural thing. Like it's just, you know, it's like Coke or Pepsi. People go dog smarter, fucking cat smarter. And I think most of the time people are always like, well, it's different. Cats are just aloof and dogs, blah, blah, blah. But this one was really trying to get at the real issue of are there differences in their cognitive abilities? Is their cognition exceptional? And that's what they looked at.

So they compared dog cognition with members of three similar groups, carnivores, social hunters, domestic animals. And carnies. And carnies. Right. And they found like they studied wolves, cats, chimpanzees, dolphins, horses, pigeons. And they found dogs not necessarily exceptional. And they say, look, they can't use tools like crows can or like chimpanzees. But they also say that one of their biggest skills is that dogs actually like topanzees. Um, and, but they also say that they're, one of their biggest skills is that

dogs actually like to be trained. So it's easier to actually add skills by, because they're more open to training. So that's why you have those dogs that know like a thousand verbs, like when you just show them flashcards or whatever. So that's sort of what it got to is like the thing that we're realizing is that dogs just like to be trained. Hence, there's more visible confirmation that maybe they have capacity to learn or above average intelligence. And really, they're very affectionate animals too. And they have that more so than other animals, which get us more like, oh, yeah, we in the dog mood, in the dog zone. So dogs are the smartest animal when it comes to interacting with humans. That is specifically

like how they were designed by evolution their species like started out uh by being wolves who started coming near humans to get scraps and leftovers from hunting camps and the dogs that were best at reading and befriending humans were the ones that survived and ate the best and procreated the most and that's how dogs happened. And almost all clever seeming behavior that dogs engage in, it's like they're reading us. They're like looking at almost like clues that might be imperceptible to us or that we don't know we're giving off. But dogs are like a hybrid tool, companion animal that was designed for human companionship. And cats are like,

their relationship to humans is much different. They're a hunting tool and they became domesticated to perform the service of basically like a smart rodent trap. Yeah, they were the first rodent trap, the first exterminators. And so they inherently,

like because of the way they came to exist, they have less of a dependence on humans for food because their role in a human household was to trap the food that we couldn't get to. So, of course, they're going to be like, man, fuck you. I don't need you. Watch me. Let me outside, homie. And I'll be fine. I'll be good.

No, exactly. They say that having an outdoor cat in your neighborhood actually affects the bird population. It's an actual environmental issue for birds. You should see my mom's house. Her fucking cats, they bring so many birds in. It's wild. So you have an animal in your house that you're just keeping in from going out and just killing everything. That's right.

So of course its attitude towards you is going to be different. Dogs are trained and like their full existence is just dependent on reading your emotions. That's like how they have always existed. So I don't know. This whole conversation just seems like it's this issue that I see like bleeding over into everything.

Like when people are talking about whether Kanye is a genius or not. And it's like, well, he is a genius or not and it's like well he's a musical genius but he's a political moron or like the you know the iq debate and like mensa we've been talking about mensa a lot lately and how these fucking idiots end up like scoring well in iq tests and i was like yo the idea of an objective intelligence that just exists across all things like that doesn't exist. They're just very – and like you would – you kind of – I think we all inherently know that.

And the idea of like an IQ test is like a myth that we just like to believe in. Well, it helps organize things better in our minds probably. Yeah. But it sounds like you really got hot over that one. I said that's a special question. You pulled out evolution. Yeah. Dogs are – But it's true. Yeah got hot over that one. I said dogs are special creatures. You pulled out evolution and shit. But it's true. Yeah, I think, yeah, like you say, dogs, they really are.

They're companions, most of these other animals. And I think that's why they're always saying, even as they wrote it, they're like, look, we know that there are X factors that make them more appealing to human beings. And that's why they're saying we're just testing if their brains can handle more information, if they have cognitive abilities are beyond other animals and that they're simply saying it's not exceptional right but again but they have all these other skills that make them quite exceptional to us as human beings yeah because you know horses do like like sort of uh step-based tasks too and things like that so it's not yeah but what makes the world go around is that everything is different. Yeah. We all have different strengths and weaknesses. I love cats and dogs.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I have two cats and a dog. Yeah. But I'm like, I... I'm a dog person, but I don't hate cats. Right.

You're ambivalent. Are you ambivalent or are you just not? No, yeah, I'm pretty like that. Whatever. There you go. There's a cat. I admire cats, but I'm a dog person. You mean you admire them. I actually do too. I hope my son aspires to be like that cat. I admire cats, but I'm a dog person. You mean you admire them.

I actually do too. I hope my son aspires to be like that cat. I think they're fucking amazing. I think they're amazing creatures, and I admire the fact that they are still existing as apex predators in a suburban environment. I think that's fucking cool. What was that cat documentary?

The Predator in Your House or some shit? Yeah, something like that. Man, my mom went, I don't know why my mom keeps coming up when that came on. She's like, you have to watch this right now.

I don't know why she's talking like the captain and fucking, I'm the captain now. She's Japanese, so it's more like, you have to watch Netflix documentary

about cat. That's how she talks, isn't it? That's how my mom talks, you know? Yeah. I think my personality is more of a cat, but I love dogs.

As in because they are so, the one thing I love about a cat is they are so independent that they're like, fuck you. I will not let you pet me, even though I just want to pet. I think I would have liked a cat more if they let me pet them. Yeah. Because they are cute and furry. And they're like, you know what? I'm beyond this cute and furry exterior.

So fuck you and your niece. I think it's important, too, when you have them, especially when they're younger, like you just got to get them used to being like held by humans or interacting with humans. Because like if, you know, if you adopt a cat, especially one that's been on the street and stuff, much harder for them to be acclimated to human touch. And also, Natasha, when you came in this morning, you had two birds that you had killed in your mouth and you dropped them in front of me and Miles as a gift offering. Oh, that was the birthday gift.

Yeah, yeah. My bad. My bad. You weren't paying attention. And you were disappointed in us when we didn't eat them like a cat would be. That's my bad. You know what? I will eat it.

You don't want the rabies-infested pigeon I killed for you? I think you're right that you're more of a cat would be. That's my bad. You know what? I will eat it. You don't want the rabies-infested pigeon I killed for you? I think you're right that you're more of a cat person, though. All right. Let's talk about Taylor Swift, guys. I mean, look what y'all made her do. She had to go and get political on this. We've talked a little bit before about how she didn't think it was her place to step out and take a political stance in the 2016 election we were like motherfucker what were you waiting for uh but apparently this

because uh after last week's events and the over the weekend kavanaugh getting confirmed uh taylor swift came out and was like all right so here's's what I think. And full on post on the gram. Let everybody know. We can read a little bit. She says, I'm writing this post about the upcoming midterm elections on November 6th, in which I'll be voting in the state of Tennessee. In the past, I've been reluctant to publicly voice my political opinions, but due to several events in my life and in the world in the past two years,

I think one is code for when that DJ groped her and she won that lawsuit. And then the past two years, I think that's her saying Trump without saying Trump. I feel very differently about that now. I always have and always will cast my vote based on which candidate will protect and fight for the human rights I believe we all deserve in this country. I believe in the fight for LGBTQ rights and that any form of discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender is wrong. I believe that, Hold on now. That the systemic racism we still see in this country towards people of color is terrifying, sickening, and prevalent. Wow. I cannot vote for someone who will not be willing to fight for dignity for all Americans,

no matter their skin color, gender, or who they love. Running for Senate in the state of Tennessee is a woman named Marsha Blackburn. Uh-oh. Calling out names now. As much as I have in the past and would like to continue voting for a woman in office, I cannot support Marsha Blackburn. Her voting record in Congress appalls and terrifies me. So, I mean, then she goes on, pulls out receipts about how she didn't vote for equal pay for women,

voted against the reauthorization of Violence Against Women Act. Like, really lays it all out. Yeah, so, I mean, this is like a 100% vanilla statement that couldn't possibly— it's not like she's taking a side because everything she said was like. She says, I'm voting for Phil Bredesen. Yeah, but she also says in it that she chooses the people that she believes is right at the time, which is, I think, a good way of telling people not to be. But how could anyone object to what she was saying?

Oh, wait, sorry. We have a Fox News clip, I'm told. Let's listen. Yeah, so again, clearly this wasn't going to go over well with the culture wars. So again, we're hearing this is a juxtaposition that the Daily Beast put together of them talking about how brave Kanye is and how, you know, Taylor just needs to shut the fuck up. And what I love about Kanye West is he has been blazing this trail saying it's okay to think freely. It's okay to oppose the status quo and in fact what

what makes america the greatest country in history the world is free thinking this is what i used to love about taylor swift is she stayed away from politics thank you connie west for standing up for what is right i i just wish there would have been some some form of neutrality when she went about this where she said just register to vote make an informed decision that would have been the proper way to go about this and to have that kind of courage to wear the Make America Great Again hat. He said it best. He said, they're trying to tell me I can't wear this. They're trying to tell me I can't support this president. Wow. See, the culture war has got people hot. Well, I always I always just find it very hilarious because Republicans also go on the grounds that celebrities should shut the

fuck up. Yeah. And no, no celebrity. Their whole thing is like, oh, these lefty liberal celebrities want to share their opinions, except that they voted the biggest wannabe celebrity in the world as president. And I'm like, you just negated your entire argument. But then they'll support Kanye if it's a celebrity who wants to speak that's on his side.

They're so thirsty for famous people. They're so thirsty. They do not have any fame. They have Tim Allen and they have Kanye now. Scott Baio. And Roseanne kind of-ish. Joe Piscopo. Scott Baio, right.

I think Joe Piscopo has a crazy right-wing radio show. I think one of the other 80s action hero dudes, Lorenzo Lamas, I think. Jesus. Victoria Jackson from SNL. Okay, so. You know what I mean? We have a few. like action hero dude lorenzo lamas i think jesus victoria jackson right from snl okay so yeah so like when you look at the listers yeah no when you look at that when you look at that culture war scoreboard taylor was a piece on that board they weren't sure what side she was on you know for the longest time people were like you know she's actually an aryan goddess and like

like straight up neo-nazis were thirsting for her because she didn't let her political views known. That allowed those people to claim her as their Aryan goddess. And now with this coming out, they're like, shit. Right. Okay, fuck it. She sucked the whole time anyway. And we love Kanye, even though when, remember when Kanye came out, when she won that VMA, they were like, who is this nasty black man?

Oh, exactly. I was literally about to say this. This is the only time we can document that Fox News has praised a black man publicly. They're like, Kanye is God. Well, that's the formula. If you sort of reverse course and embrace fully the racism of the Republican Party, you will be number one on their list. Yeah.

Hey, welcome to the team, Taylor. Welcome to the team of believing in human rights. You know, that's cool. I'm going to go the prodigal son here and just be like, yeah, the more the merrier. You know, you took a little while to get here, but I don't know what you were waiting for. But, you know, one thing she did point out is that the deadline to register to vote is today. The day that this episode drops in like a bunch of states like Arkansas. Like a lot of states are like you have to register in person or over mail by today or online in the next couple weeks.

Arkansas, no online registration. We don't follow computers. Yeah. Arizona, the online registration is today. As you'll see, I just got through the A's of the alphabetical list. But yeah, just check when your deadline to register to vote. If you're young and haven't registered,

please do it, because that's the only way to fight back. Whatever your beliefs are. I'm Canadian, and I cannot vote, and all I can do is tell anybody, whatever you're voting for for get out there and vote come on man well George Soros George Soros in a few years yeah hit up uh georgesoros at gmail.com say I need a fake id to vote and he'll look you up uh yeah I think again it's good and like you said I mean well I guess clearly she said I'm I'm picking the Democrats in this race she didn't use

the word Trump she didn't use the word Trump. She didn't use the words Republican or Democrat. And yeah, definitely. Look, at the end of it, she still said that people could, yeah. No, no, yeah, I agree. And I think that's actually, like you said, better because that doesn't fully allow people to be like, oh, you see, she says I support the Democrats or something like that. She's like, I'm a woman. I think these are my values. This person does not align with that.

Therefore, it's a no for me, dog. Natasha, by the way, your father and I were talking, and one way you could vote in America, get married. Well, hey, I have a green card. I just haven't taken my citizenship yet. All right, we're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back. We're going to take another quick break.

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I don't know if there's a fun way to talk about it, but Kanye is clearly off his meds in public and it's just gone from being like oh man what is this fucking dude talking about to now just being one of the darker spectacles like an ongoing car crash yeah slow motion well yeah when I I think he was in Detroit and he was at the design school and just hopped up on the table and was like gave some rant about Elon Musk. And then there was like another thing where a TMZ guy in the street was talking to him and he was saying something about how Abraham Lincoln was black. And that clip is the one where I was like, yo, they're like his look like he just has that glazed look that, you know, I don't know. You see in people who need help. with and I've had, you know, my aunt who I was very close to was schizophrenic and I'm a big advocate for mental health issues and showing compassion to people who have it. And clearly

he is, I'm, for me personally, I don't even think he's bipolar. I actually think he's borderline schizophrenic or he is, or he's transitioning into that as having watched my aunt go through these things and and doing like they do have these manic episodes. And then they make up these like crazy correlations to things where mania tends to be like for bipolar is like still speaking a lot of the truth. They're not necessarily coming up with these radical ideas. But if you're like if you've watched A Beautiful Mind or something like that, that's like more in the pop culture realm of what that can do. I just, yeah,

I wish that his family and friends would protect him a little bit more. Because I think that even us all going out on Twitter and bashing him is like, let's again find the humanity in the situation that we are now bashing a person with

mental health issues right yeah um and maybe we all just need to chill out and maybe he needs help because that will continue to make him spiral well yeah because he's kind of going up against like having people still perceive him as being having a full deck and i think that's why he's basically come up against like cancel culture on the internet where they're like, yo, this dude is a fucking idiot. Fuck this guy, blah, blah, blah. Because everyone is still operating on the thing of like,

see, he's just one of these problematic black people or whatever. And that could be true. There's a lot to look at and say, man, he is really real. Like something's just not right. And this looks nothing like the Kanye West we've seen before

aside from his political takes and things like that and I think yeah with the internet very much just like in just ready to fucking pitchfork this shit out of somebody this is like one of those moments where we've yet to kind of really look before it was easy to say he's just doing this for attention he loves Trump of course he loves Trump he's a narcissist or whatever you're like well now we're now we're looking at something like really different and it's getting just more sad like i used to be really angry at him but that was when i really thought you're just doing this because you're trying to promote your shitty albums that aren't good right now and you're doing whatever to regain relevance and now it's like now seeing video of him like try and engage someone on a really like logical level and failing to do that.

Because when you start looking, you're like, oh, come on. And why aren't some of these artists who are out there with him? I mean, I know you can only say so much to an adult. But at some point you think someone is going to really help him take control of himself. I don't know if going to Africa to finish an album is going to help. I don't think it will. No, man. You's it's yeah it's just stop getting yeah it's getting darker focusing on the actual health issues and you know to your point uh the the thing like a beautiful mind portrays this uh version of schizophrenia where you just see people who aren't there and uh like it's actually like the the real john nash the dude who a beautiful mind is about like one of

the things that got him in trouble was he had all these anti-semitic like rants that he would like unleash in public and like so a lot of times it's just having crazy weird political beliefs. It's not just a fun thing where you think you're in a chase film or a spy movie and you're actually in love with your wife and your wife

loves you through schizophrenia. It can be a lot more messy than that. For him, it might just be a processing more messy than that. Yeah. And for him, it might just be like a processing issue, you know, where again, a lot of people with schizophrenia might not even believe what they're saying, but some hallucination has given them a thought and they don't have the processes to stop that thought like we do. Um, and so it just comes out of their mouth and they roll with it. And I think Kanye is a good example. When you saw him in that TMZ interview, the first one where he went on that really long, like, what was it, like two hours or something?

He just kept going. And when somebody stopped him and gave him logic, you saw him stop on camera. And that's what happens with people with like a lot of these mental, like if I used to talk to my aunt and I could give her logic, she would like snap out of it for a second. She'd be like, oh. Right. And so I just, yeah, I think he. But it's odd too because now you feel like TMZ, you know,

they did like a live interview with him. Like they're kind of cashing in on it too. Oh my God, so many people are cashing in on him. You want live crash footage? Right. Like come to TMZ and we'll just like have this dude on and we know everyone's gonna watch or whatever but yeah now again it's forcing at least us to like kind of reevaluate how we

like want to talk about it because again it was very easy to just go off the anger off of thinking this person was one way and now it's yeah it's just very clearly just gone into other territory much darker territory yeah um step in yeah cam in. Yeah, Kim, come on. So there's some new polling. We don't want to get too deep into the political weeds, but just a new poll came out that was somewhat interesting that just measured the gender gap between who is supporting Republicans and Democrats

in the upcoming midterms. Yeah. So Republicans have a five-point edge with men. So between likely voters they polled, 46% they would support Democrats, 51% said they would support Republicans. But with women, it was much, much larger. And a lot of this polling took place over the last two weeks,

so like at the height of all this Kavanaugh BS. And when you look at the polling, Democrats have a 14 point edge. So only 40 percent of women support a Republican candidate, 54 percent a Democratic candidate. Now, you know, we've seen where polls have gotten us in the past. But I think it is important to realize that clearly like this whole process has invigorated a group of people. And it's, you know, now we have to actually make sure that this manifests into people at the polls. Today's the day to register. Yes. And if you haven't, and I think also another thing to be, that's important too,

is I know a lot of people go, I'm taking every person I know to the polls. Now that could be good. But what about the people whose contact numbers you still have in your phone that you don't talk to all the time? You should also call them too. Because of course, the people who are in your immediate circle, you are going to probably be riding the same wavelength in terms of your political activism. But what about that old coworker that you text from time and again? You know, you don't really not sure about their politics. Engage them. Engage, like, I mean, you have a phone.

You have a phone list of people already who are probably likely voters. You can engage those people too. And I realize there are many people who i think of like oh yeah i'm good everybody i know is voting right but then there are also people i know who i communicate with who i think about i'm like i wonder if that motherfucker actually votes yeah that's a good point i actually never thought of that too just like going through your phone and being like hey did you like are you voting yeah hey i know't have to talk to you what are you registered to vote you're not one of these non-voting motherfuckers right please vote um yeah i mean the like the question i keep asking is like what's going to be different this time

because the last time you know people felt pretty confident on the democratic side heading into the 2016 election and it was just a all-out disaster. So what's going to be different? Are people, is people's enthusiasm going to be different? And I feel like the only thing you can guarantee is going to be different is what you do. So, I mean, if you're, you know, try doing a phone bank for the first time. Yeah. You know, I was telling you guys, I have a lot of Republican friends. Even though I lean left, I have no, I'm very, even though I lean left.

I have no – I'm very – guys, I like everybody. Wow. But they would always tell me they were really proud after the last election to tell me that they are the type of people that will not talk about it out loud, but they'll show up at the polls. So those are the things that we need to look out for. That's who you're going against. People with shame, I think is what you're talking about. They're just like, you know what? We don't need to tell anybody.

We're just going to show you. And so I think, like, I hope everybody feels that way with whatever way you're leaning. Just feel like, hey, you don't need to, yeah. All this talk about a blue wave is making Republicans laugh. They're laughing at us, folks. Yeah. No, but I mean, honestly, they're like, Democrats are very emotional, but they don't actually

back it up. I think the difference is we felt, or people who are progressive felt that when it came down to the binary choice between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, it was clear. And it was just like complacency, basically. You're like, oh, it's fine. And now you have many more people who are angry and have a purpose. And hopefully the people can actually make sure we channel that energy. That's what people on the left are counting on.

But yeah, it has to be channeled. Don't count on it. Yeah, go out and do it. I feel angry too. And that's why I'm like looking at my phone. I'm like, wait, what about you, person I don't really talk to about politics? Are you voting? Because I can be pretty persuasive with people I know.

And that's definitely just step one of many steps you can take to participate in this. Even my mom, she's like, what do I do? Again, I don't know why she's talking like a sub-Saharan African person. But I was like, talk to all the Japanese people you know. Because I know you're very tapped into the Japanese community. You can call other states that have Japanese populations and make sure you can use your same level of, you know, she's a very good speaker and things like that to convince people or motivate them to vote. Yeah, totally.

There's many things you can do. It's not just about what do I do to literally reverse all the wrongs the Republicans did. That is overwhelming. That is, yeah. Start fucking small. But I think maybe that's why Taylor Swift took so long, too. Right. Because, like, in the first time, I really think everybody thought that it was going to go one way.

Nah, she saw what Nike did. She saw what Nike did. She's like, I think it's good for a brand. At the same time, I do think she's going to lose fans over this. So I don't think this is totally, like, a cash round. She will, but I think she'll gain. Again, she's what, like, in the top ten most powerful women on earth or some shit, like, in those lists. She's in the top 10 most powerful women on earth or some shit in those lists.

I have a feeling just for her alienating a subset of people in one country. Or maybe it was all over the beef with Katy Perry. Right. Because Katy Perry was so vocally supportive of Hillary. She's like, you know what? No, you shared a stage with her. Nope. Nope.

All because of Katy Perry. Just like a mean girl thing. Like, ooh, you hung out with her? Yeah. No, you know that they had long beef, right? Yeah, yeah, I know. And then Katy had to give her like a legit olive tree or something like to apologize. Taylor Swift meets Hillary Clinton. That is the way that you apologize to Taylor Swift. She meets Hillary and she's like, I don't fuck with you.

With an entire tree. Because you were with Katy. Get out of my face, Hillary. So last story we wanted to talk about today is that Banksy had a piece of art, the Girl with Balloon, that was sold this weekend at an auction at Sotheby's. And it sold for just over $1.3 million. And right as the gavel was struck to end the bidding, the piece started shredding itself. There was a shredder hidden in the frame. It was pretty crazy. If it is what they say it is, which is just that he hid it in there like years ago. Some people are skeptical, namely super producer Nick Stumpf. Nick thinks this is too cute to be like real. He was saying it's like the painting will now be worth more money. It is. Which is true. Because of the spectacle.

And I think, you know, again, Nick says he's on the super cynical side, which I understand because you look at it, the painting only half shredded. It can still be displayed. The value has gone up. So from that side, it's like this was a win in every dimension uh on one side i can also see if you look at supposedly what banksy's ethos was like you know he a lot of most of his pieces are on the street and people have to like cut shit out of walls and things to sell it it's never really like he's making a piece and does a gallery show and everything's on sale like it's just it's out in the world and people have to take it down to sell it. Who's getting that money? Where did this

work come from? I'm not sure what the origins are. I mean, clearly I think he mounted it in the frame because he knew that would most likely lead to it being sold in an auction because most of his other things are not framed already. So by doing that, it was like he was baiting the art

world to then take it and be like, oh, it's a framed Banksy piece. We can sell this. And on one side, I think, you know, because of his idea of like that his art is supposed to be just out there and it's a work of protest or vandalism, however you want to look at it. He's not really into the whole auction thing. And like some people say, like, this is his act of protest by shredding his work. It's saying like, you know, you're taking works of protest or people's manifestations of their personal history or trauma. And it's becoming like decor for the wealthy. And the moment that it's sold, it becomes destroyed. And that's him saying this art isn't for it isn't a commodity for you to buy and trade and things like that.

This is just a work of art itself and trying to do that because the art world is wacky with money right now. Like it's the way people just invest in art now, use it to hide and shield themselves from taxes and shit like that. It has all these other benefits for people. And I think there is an idea like in the art world, like, yeah, like what's going on? Like it's kind of becoming a runaway train, but I can also see like if you're super cynical, maybe you do that it ups the value you can make a little money off the side but i think at the very least even if you let you know let's say he really was trying to do that to vandalize it it's the irony though is that even in his act of protest it actually exacerbates the very thing he was trying to fight is also just twisted do you think he was in the room he was trying to fight is also just twisted. Do you think he was in the room?

He was or someone was. Because like the gavel went right and then somebody just like had to press go. And because I didn't watch it, but then I was like so curious. I was like, was there like an electronic pieces? Did these people not inspect? Well, they just look at it like, well, I don't think they were going to ever dismantle it from the frame. Like they just knew they had a thing that was framed.

And then he uploaded a video of himself like before he put the piece up installing the shredder in the frame. So he booby trapped it from the beginning. Like the second because it was like, they try and do it. I'll shred it. And then so is it worth more for the person who bought it now? Well, that person now is holding a piece of art, which is now the shredded Banksy what i'm saying so that person it's worth more for them yeah so they bought it for 1.8 right sure and if like you say like if it is as cynical as nick says that would be the wildest thing that he knew the person that buys like yo just buy it because as soon as i shred this shit

it's going up 60 70 percent right imagine i want to see a movie about him. Is there a movie about him yet? Yeah. Are you joking? No, I really want to. Oh, it's called Exit Through the Gift Shop. Really? Oh, I had no idea. It's made by him.

It's made by him. And that's why- About him. That's the other thing, too, is who the fuck- We don't know who this motherfucker is. It could be a collective of artists. Other people think it's someone in massive attack because they've mapped out their touring schedule with places things have showed up

and him being from or starting out in Bristol. But, you know, I think it's funny. It's fun. But some people are more cynical. Yeah. That's a good movie, though. Check it out. Yeah, well, I clearly don't. I'm not up on my... There's also apparently

Super Producer Nick Stumpf says there's another film called Banksy's Coming for Dinner oh okay well Natasha it's been a pleasure having you on our one

year anniversary episode thank you so much for the birds thank you so much for the little

sparrow delicious where can people find you follow you you can check out

the kind of dating podcast wherever you find your podcasts and we're on social media at kind of dating podcast uh wherever you find your podcasts um and we're on social media at kind of dating across the board and i am at natasha chandel on facebook

and instagram natasha underscore chandel on twitter all right and is there a tweet that you've been enjoying a tweet yeah one specific tweet that's what we asked. That I have been enjoying. Oh, I know this one. Oh, I love this. There's sort of two related. One was a response, but it was Ken Jeong saying, thank you, Awkwafina, for kicking that door wide open because she hosted SNL. And then she tweeted him back saying,

love you, Papafina. You inspire me every day. And just melted my heart because they're both fucking amazing. Yeah, they really are. And that was a great moment. Hell yeah. He's a good guy too. And I enjoyed it.

Yeah. Real doctor. I want to kick it with Aquafina. Yeah, real doctor. Yeah. Miles. Yes. Where can people find you?

Oh, you can find me. You can follow me. You can, you know, just support me emotionally in my journey to eat garlic bread at miles of gray and a tweet that i like now that you're here because you talk about relationships uh this this one resonated with me as anyone who has met someone one of your friends is dating and immediately had an opinion about this person uh this is from at racks king is dead uh it says once i hate your boyfriend for you, there's no going back.

I don't care that he apologized. I did this for you. And that goes in any direction. I think anybody can identify with that. All right. You can follow me on Twitter. And out here. Loudly,

loud agreement from super producer. Who are you shading? Okay. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A tweet I've been enjoying is from Jess Dweck at The Dweck. She tweeted a picture of Brett Kavanaugh being sworn in with his hand on the Bible, and she said, he's holding down the Bible so it won't scream, which is a great tweet. And yeah, you can follow us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the songs we write out on. You can also find that information in the episode notes. on. You can also find that information in the episode notes. Also, of

course, big shout out to super producers Ana Hosnier and super producer Nick Stumpf who, I said that as though Ana Hosnier is two people. She is just one for making this podcast possible for a year. Keeping this thing running. Making it

sound good. Super producer Ana Hosnier bringing all these wonderful talented people like natasha into our studio yeah the show couldn't run without you guys all right miles yes song are we gonna ride out on today oh wow right out on year one into year two one out on year one in the year to set the whole tone well don't count on this to be so uh this isn't a real message but uh this is a song from wayne snow uh who is just holding down the vibe of just that i don't know that like nile rogers she produced type uh you know style that i love so much uh and this is a track called nothing Wrong by Wayne Snow. And, you know, guys,

I dare you to listen to this. And if honey doesn't enter your hips immediately and your big toe just does not shoot up in your boot, check your pulse because you might be dead. Have we ever played that clip

of him saying that? Nah, but if you come to the live show, you will watch. I will do a play-by-play breakdown of the origin of make my big toe shoot up in my boot. And you can see that December 1st in Chicago. Look for tickets.

We'll be at the Chicago Podcast Fest. Come out, please, and support. All right, guys. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. We'll talk to you then. Bye-bye. Bye. Nothing wrong Nothing wrong

Nothing wrong Little brother Don't you worry Things will be fine In our struggle It's trying to let go There's nothing wrong Nothing wrong Nothing wrong Nothing wrong Thank you. We've come so far

From bread to ashes Those days are over Oh, nothing wrong We can be free I know from within It will be real Oh, nothing wrong Oh, nothing wrong

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