The Daily Zeitgeist - Fox News Gunsplains, Fortnite Rises 3.26.18

Episode Date: March 27, 2018

In episode 112, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Ify Nwadiwe to discuss Stormy Daniels' 60 Minutes interview, the March For Our Lives, Fox & Friends not knowing how to deal, gun videos on Porn Hub, a round up of quick news stories, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Three, Europe's Most Wanted. That was courtesy of Riley Schmidt. I don't know if he would want me to say who that was courtesy of, but I'm giving him a shout-out anyways. And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Thank you. Today I'm going to be experimental Japanese visual artist, your boy, Kusama. Thank you so much.

To my boy, Kevin Parker Flynn, for that AKA. And if you don't know who Yayoi Kusama is, look up her work. Anyone who's been to a museum and Instagram something, it's probably one of her exhibitions. Bit of culture with the AKA. Look, it's Monday. I'm just kidding. Yep.

I think I win with Matted Jack Scarf. Yeah, maybe you do. I'm just kidding. Yep. I think I win with Mattajackscar3, Europe's Most Wanted. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian, Ify Wadaway. Ifman, Ifman, Ifman, Ifman. Oh, like Jumpman, Jumpman, Jumpman, Jumpman? Yeah. By the way, shout out to a lot of Zeitgangers hopping on the Twitch. Yeah, yeah.

Coming through. And they're doing what I asked. Just using that Zeitgang hashtag. Letting them know. Yeah, yeah. Coming through. And they're doing what I asked. Just using that Zeitgang hashtag. Letting them know. Yeah. Hashtag Zeitgang. And we're out here

in Fortnite. We're out here in every form. Yeah, we're going to talk about Fortnite later on. But if you first up, what is something from your search history that is revealing

about who you are? Oh, man. Oh, yeah. So there's a meme going around where that black kid crying. And it's actually like an African kid crying. And somebody, one of my friends, Connie Shin, she was like, does anybody want to know why, like, this kid is crying? Like, no, it's a meme.

And I was like, oh, no, it's from an African movie. Because I saw someone posted the longer clip. So I know the origin. But I was trying to look for it so I can watch it. But it's an Hollywood movie where it's two boys who are raising money and their dad's like a drunk or something. And then they just discovered that their dad stole all their money that they've been doing chores around the city floor. Oh, that's what that's from? Yeah.

Because the kid looks at him and is like, oh, no. Yeah, yeah. He's like, I cannot believe this. How could he do this? Who are they using that for? What was that meme? Because I just saw it this morning. What was the one for?

The one I saw it for, it was like, or I used it when Arizona lost. And I was like, all the people who have Arizona winning their brackets. Right, right, right. Yeah. But it's used a lot. But the new one that's hit is the video that's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Shout out to Nollywood. Also from a Nollywood movie? Yeah, yeah. I believe that's either Nollywood or Gollywood, which has gone in movies. But usually it's Nigerian. It's Nigerian. Nigerian.llywood, which has gone in movies. But usually it's – And Nollywood is – Is Nigerian.

Nigerian, right. So – and those are the most popping. Not even patting myself on the back. My homie David Boer, he's from Sierra Leone. He was like, yeah, no, Nollywood's popping out there. People think Nigerians are so cool. And I was like, yeah, you know. That's right.

Y'all doing your thing. What is something that's underrated? Underrated – look, I'm very late. I'm very late on this. So I'm going to say it. But The Good Place. I just was watching it. Oh, yeah.

And even though a lot of people were saying it was good, I feel like a lot of people don't. Like, it's the jokes are wall to wall. Yeah. On top of each other. And, you know, I'll also shout out my homies, which are Darcy Carter, who's in The Good Place. But also my buddy Anthony Kerrigan and Kirby, who are all in Barry. Barry is great. And that might fly under your radar.

But it's written, directed, and starring Bill Hader. Okay. And it's funny. It's funny. I went to the premiere, saw two episodes. Very funny. Nice. What's her character called?

Stacy? Or what is it called on The Good Place? Oh, Janet two episodes. Very funny. Nice. What's her character called? Stacy? Or what is it called on The Good Place? Oh, Janet. Janet, yeah. People are trying to get like an Alexa mod for that. Shouts to anybody whose Alexa show went off. But yeah, so you can just say Janet. Oh, man.

But yeah, that show was one of the same thing where I heard everybody talking about it, but I was like, look, most shows we talk about are not good. I know. And then I started watching watching it and i was so blown away i was like i was giddy watching yeah because the writing is amazing oh yeah and the performances ted dancing you know good to see him oh man he yeah he's really him and darcy really just make that show yeah next level what is something that you think is overrated? I think overrated is being on the wave of the outrage where like you're like, OK, like I I hate seeing the same message over and like the same take over and over. Like, I feel like it is better if you amplify the voices that have already said what you're trying to say. Just be like, oh, I read that and I'm going to regurgitate that.

Yeah, and I'm going to say it. I feel like I see this a lot where one person is calling something out or talking about something. going on recently is just the kind of obvious difference in how, you know, protest black people protesting versus like the Parkland kids protesting. And I feel like, you know, a lot of people have been having that conversation in a way where it's like, yeah,

this is a problem we should address, but also we should keep in mind that, you know, this is the first time everyone's on board. But then I feel like it turns to a game of telephone where it's gotten to the point where some people are like, fuck these Parkland kids. And it's like, no, no, no. I get where you're coming from, but you can – we are complex human beings. We don't have to just say one or the other.

We can be like this support this but also realize this yeah right and sad that that's the those are the voices that are clearly getting the most ears well and it's because people take that and then they they have an emotion about it and then they just say it instead of just sharing this voice of like yeah this person says right you know so because i feel like this is a contest of like where the fringe tries to make the hottest, spiciest take and not necessarily try and like, you know, really spread the take. Right.

Because what, what these kids are advocating for is something that everyone will benefit to. And I think, yeah, if people are really upset, clearly they have a reason to be because these kinds of problems have affected many other communities in a much greater way. But again, yeah, it's like, sure, I get that this is somehow the way that people are starting to listen. But this is America, and I think we knew that. Yeah. This is sort of how shit has been working.

Sadly, I'm not resigned to that fact. But we have to be real of what the reality is of how sort of these kinds of rhetorical discussions and you know and how movements work in this country yeah and also it's just like if you're paying close attention the kids are aware of that the kids are so much ahead of the woke curve than we are and it's because they probably spent most of their time on tumblr before this all happened you know they like they they've been checking their privilege and like really trying to lift up black voices as they as they move forward and that's what's cool is you got all these people because and i feel like that's what happens when things start growing is people try and nitpick and

find holes in because no one can just rise you got to find something wrong with it just the same way like they lift you up so they can tear you in nature baby and so i feel like it's getting to that point where they're trying to find holes but the kids are ahead of the game like the holes that you're trying to point out they've already been working on fixing that right it's like twitter wokeness judo it's like i i'm gonna use your wokeness against you to show that i am even more woke than you and it's just like no we can just both have good points yeah the new york times podcast the daily this morning actually uh interviewed some kids from uh inner city chicago who have been working on you know gun access and you know, gun access and, you know, restricting gun access, making it less easy for people to,

you know, smuggle guns into Chicago. And they are sort of jumping on this Parkland thing. And while acknowledging, yeah, the reason that this is being becoming a national issue is because they're like the households in their community make three times as much as the households in our community. And that's fucked up. But this is our opportunity. Yeah. You know, getting a getting a national stage and using that. Word.

What? Yeah. Yeah. Mic drop. Hashtag mic drop. He just he just killed R.I.P. Just killed the club. Yeah.P. Just killed the club. Yeah.

Yeah. If you what is a myth? What's something that people think is true out there that you know to be false? I think, you know, we went heavy with the overrated. Let's let's keep it light. A myth is if you lift weights, you go and get buff. That's not true. That like you're going to gonna get buff but it takes more

than just lifting weights like buff you're gonna gain muscle but i know a lots of times like whenever i suggest resistance training to like my female friends they're like that's like when you join the political movement the resistance yeah right they're they're always like oh no i don't want to be bulky and buff right i'm trying to look tone is like that's how you get tone you need resistance training like cardio can only do so much but it's a combination of of your diet and some resistance training to build that muscle that's that's what you're seeing that's tone is muscle uh trust me so many so many women go through so many loophole like loops and hoops to just build muscle because it's so hard because your bodies are weird and you have to like eat high carbs like if you're trying to build

muscle it's not as simple as lifting weights like if you're a skinny person trying to get big you have to do a lot of eating you're gonna have to fight against your metabolism yeah uh and if you're and you fight against your metabolism if you're a big person trying to get small but lift heavy weights it helps you've been on heavy weight yeah you've been on a i think i met you maybe like a year ago when we were trying to do something at wired like when we really first met and i think at the time were you just starting to like really get into weight lifting at the time? I was just starting to get into it. Or like within the first beginnings of it? Because I remember that's when you were really talking about it.

I feel like – and you've had a metamorphosis. Yeah, no. That's when I had like my confidence in it because there was very – a lot of trial and error. Like I've been lifting weights maybe for like seriously for like six, seven years now. Oh, shit. OK. My bad. But I've never felt comfortable because

everyone would be like how'd you do it how'd you do it and i would just lift the things and read stuff to support it right but like at that point where you met me is when i actually started like learning why you know right the the mechanics of the mechanics of it and then i felt more comfortable being outspoken about it because my biggest fear is like dropping some quote unquote knowledge and just like a real deal person coming and be like, well, actually, no, no. Nice try. Killmonger. Yeah.

Yeah. Guys, check if he's Instagram. If you really want to see this guy, he's not lying. He's throwing plates around in the weight room. He's throwing plates around like an angry dishwasher. All right. Let's get into the stories of the day, guys. Yes.

Because we had a big one over the weekend, and we're labeling this the story least likely to be on Fox & Friends this morning. So Stormy Daniels went on 60 Minutes last night, and their ratings, quote, easily outpaced the last Mar marquee episode, Trump's 2016 interview on 60 Minutes. But it still trails Barack Obama's where he scored twenty four point five million. So Stormy Daniels scored 20 million. I feel like that specific detail that her ratings beat Trump and yet still couldn't reach Barack Obama's like probably is just destroying him, just eating him alive from the inside out. I watched the interview. My takeaways are that I was sad for her because she you know, she talks about how she goes to his room,

Anderson Cooper's like, you were 27, he was 60, were you attracted to him? She says, no. And he was like, did you want to have sex with him? She says, no. And he was like, but you did. And she's like, yeah. And he was like, did you get or did he get consent? And she's, basically, she's just like, yeah, I felt like I had to

because I had gone to his room. She was like, oh, Stormy, you really did it to yourself this time. Yeah. Because she went to his room and that automatically meant that she had to have sex with him. And I don't know. I've just – I think we've all been in situations where we feel like we need to do something because people expect us to do it. where we feel like we need to do something because people expect us to do it. And it's always a matter of self-esteem whether you end up doing that thing or not. And it just feels like a shitty position for her to have to put herself in.

It's like another tale of sort of the invisible male coercion network. It reminded me of the Aziz story in the sense that it wasn't like clean cut and you can't necessarily group it into the Me Too thing. When she said no, you could see she was like, no, I didn't – and yeah, even her kind of – I think she literally said something to the effect of like, oh, Stormy, look what you got yourself into kind of thing. Yeah, she did. Yeah, that was a little – yeah, it's just again a reflection of the society that we're in. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Another takeaway. Gross. Another takeaway. Gross. Third takeaway. I sort of started to understand it from her perspective. So she had this experience with Trump, told the story for money like when it wasn't a big deal in 2010 or 11 before like he had any presidential aspirations, made some money on the side. And then it got leaked to the Wall Street Journal that there was, you know, Trump's campaign came to her and offered to pay her money to not say anything. She accepted that. And then it was leaked by the Wall Street Journal that they did have this

affair and there was hush money in place. And Trump came out and said she was lying about having the affair. And that's when she came out and started talking about it. It wasn't like she forced the issue. It was that she basically was being called a liar and an opportunist by the right before she and I mean, that's her version of the story. Now, you know, some people say she's not, you know, a reliable source. But one of my favorite things about this is how I feel like, you know, Stormy's ready for this. You know, like she sees people coming at her on Twitter and it does not bug her because this is what people are trying to do is how stories like this get shut down. They bully you. You're getting like yelled at by people online. So then you just start changing up your story. You're afraid.

But Stormy at this point is like, no, this is it's facts and you can try calling me all the whores and and sluts you want, but I'm going to speak my truth. Yeah. Well, the interesting thing, too, is a lot of people like kind of speculating or I was reading on Slater, I think this morning about how they, a lot of people think that her whole legal strategy is basically because the end game is to sell dick pics of the president. And they say that because,

you know, and the agreement that she signed that Trump didn't sign the one that they're trying to nullify. There's like a lot of like for people who've read and nondisclosure agreements, they said like there's sort of very specific stuff written in there about how like any images or text messages have to be given over to Michael Cohen and that any any of those things are like basically copywritten material of Donald Trump. Like it's his intellectual property, essentially.

So if the agreement is nullified, then that is not his intellectual property and then she can go and – how like her lawyer Michael Avenatti had like tweeted a photo of like a DVD and like a safe and was like, if a picture can say a thousand words, like whoa. Yeah, yeah. That's pretty wild. But like yeah, so one of the ideas is that that would open her up to then being able to like basically sell stuff to the highest bidder to like whatever outlet would i heard to publish it vivid is just pulling all their resources to get that dvd if they want access to stream are they still doing well because they used to have a nice headquarter not nice but a big building on ventura yeah yeah you still see it but i don... It looks like one of those buildings that

are like, back in the day, this was a nice building. I grew up right down the street from it. In the 90s, that was like... That building was popping. And now it's like... You know, times have changed. The internet has... Are people still paying for porn? That is a question that I do not know the answer to, but

that's crazy. I guess her... She said her sales are going up so apparently they are oh yeah no i looked into this because uh so porn hub has a ranking system for their adult actresses and i went back and i looked up uh so stormy daniels was number one the last i checked on porn hub and before that because i went to look up, which one is the one that Ted Cruz was looking up? Chase. Chase. Oh, right.

The cuck porn. Well, what was funny is, like, I was following her on Snapchat. Like, I was a fan before she was popping. So when I saw her name, I was like, oh, that's weird. I know that porn star. Right, right, right. But, yeah, her, she jumped up during the Ted Cruz stuff. So this stuff really does make your vids come to the spotlight.

Valid strategy. Yeah, I think actually, yes, I did because I tweeted her porn star number and I was like, look, just all you know, it boosts your ranking. So if any other porn star has any stories about any politicians … It's like syndication. Yeah. Like you're giving it life after the fact. The only other detail that jumped out to me, so I knew that there was a threat involved where somebody threatened her to like drop the story, stop telling the story, basically

forget that she had an affair with Trump. And I thought that had happened like recently or at least after the election, but it actually happened back in 2011. So it was before people really knew about it and before Trump had a political career. So it wasn't like some Trump supporter just came up and threatened her, you know, because they thought she was threatening his career. It was definitely either someone from Trump's side or Cohen, who I don't know if you've seen Michael Cohen interviewed. He's pretty, he's kind of just stereotype of a, you know, New York mobbed up attorney. So, yeah, it seems like a playbook for

like, you know, this kind of of shit if you're like a high powered person who's used to basically using money or forced to intimidate people into doing whatever you want it wouldn't strike me as like oh no they would also use threats against somebody yeah somebody just walked up and was like cute daughter it'd be a shame if something were to happen to her mother don't talk about mr trump you know bye bye and disappeared yeah and you know she's not lying because when like i think when anderson cooper asked like oh do you know who it was she's like no she's like but if i saw his face i would remember and you're like yeah that's definitely some shit when you got through some shit you would not forget someone's face people on morning joe

were like why didn't he have pictures to show her right then because they're trying to sell that shit right i'm telling you that watch no no i mean of the person of like different people's faces who are like associates of trump and going through it right right the crazy thing too was like on fox and friends though just to kind of go off how we were starting it they basically none of the hosts actually said her name this right like the the there were mentions of it by other people none None of the hosts actually said her name. And you know how many times they said Hillary Clinton? Nine times. Oh, so many times.

So cool. That's what's been wild is someone also pointed out that anytime people tweet or put a stormy in a headline, they add porn star to it. And they're saying like if she was a lawyer they wouldn't add her job her job title to any of her descriptions right because it's the additional like shaming of somebody who's working in pornography and yeah making the headline seemingly more salacious right yeah i mean and fox and friends not mentioning her name i mean they're just taking their lead from their head of programming president trump yeah he's not mentioning her in tweets. I'm like, don't trigger the boss. All right, we're going to take a quick break.

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wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and uh we wanted to talk about the March for Our Lives that happened over the weekend. I know a lot of people who were there. I didn't get downtown today. You guys go. I was recording the Bechdel cast. Oh, right. But my mom went in my stead. Nice.

To represent you. I was at the Kids' Choice Awards. Yeah, you're really out here for these kids. Yeah, yeah. See, people want to march for the kids. I'm trying to be up. Trying to get slimed. I was going to say, like, I meant with them.

But I was saying, you know. That's tricky wording. That's tricky wording. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, we'll move that along. A lot of people did go there. And Fox News didn't really know how to react to all these, you know, young elementary school kids like Crooked Media went down there and interviewed all the people on the street. And it was like, you know, these 11 year olds who like told their grandma they wanted to come down and like so they drove for like hours to get there to go to this protest and just this really intense outpouring of just organic sort of democratic energy and organic. Well, we'll see. Fox Fox has a word or two to say about that.

So let's hear how they tried to cover the march for our lives. There's something to be said for this. I mean, that's that's hundreds of thousands of people. And I had conversations, a lot of them, and they really have no idea what they're talking about, especially with guns. Kind of feel sorry for some of them without putting them on the spot. But they seem to be very, very misguided. But there's emotion and emotion drives politics. Well, I mean, I think we had talked about the fact that this march was going to take place. And one of the things that Peter Doocy had mentioned was that initially it felt like it was more organic,

that there was some students getting together after the Valentine's Day event in Parkland, Florida. And then now it's almost as if it's a celebrity movement. It's Hollywood feel. And that's what I wanted to ask you about. So I definitely feel a lot of that. It's a blend of all these different forces. A lot of students were being bussed in, which is to be without said. And you could tell by the T-shirts and the big coach buses that are in.

I was asking, who's paying for this, first of all? I mean, it is to be without said, and you could tell by the t-shirts and the big coach buses that are, and I was asking like, who's paying for this? First of all, I mean, it's, it is highly organized. 10 or 12 coach buses coming in with police escorts as I was driving in. Here's the funny thing. First of all, they're using armed guards for this whole thing, which I think is one of the greatest ironies of a gun control march. Yeah. Okay.

So, um, couple of things. But was it USDA organic? Do we know how organic it USDA organic? Right. Do we know how organic this march was? Right. So first of all, I like just the condescension where he's like, these people don't know what they're talking about around guns. They just want gun control, I guess. But then she refers to the Valentine's Day event in Parkland, which sounds like it's like a silent auction fundraiser for like a private school or something. Or like a sale at a fucking car dealership.

Right. Come in for the Valentine's Day event of the year. Right. So it was just a fun Valentine's Day event that they're responding to. And they all decided to have this get together. They're responding to and they all decided to have this get together. But clearly they were being funded by high level Soros Soros or Hollywood royalty, because how else could these filthy paupers afford the notoriously luxurious mode of transport? That is the fucking bus. Oh, man. Well, also, it's like, wow, you guys are crying over and being afraid of the kids. And you think the way you're going to win their support is just by shitting on them.

And it just goes to show you just this kind of change of tradition that's happening. Because their mindset is that you're wrong because you're a child. Not because you're actually wrong. But you are wrong because I'm an adult, and it's just like Danny DeVito's monologue in Matilda. You know? Whoa. Yeah, yeah. I hit you with that deep cut.

But this is the main reason they're going to lose this generation, is because they feel like they don't have to fight for them. They're like, no, you need to listen. You're misguided, and you are only helping push them away more because you are shitting on these people and when you say the irony is that they have armed guards in a gun control rally just proves yet again you don't know what gun control is you're just right you are the misguided one. They object to the idea of guns and think that guns shouldn't exist is like how they is. Right.

Versus like their version. Let's do the bare minimum and at least ban weapons that professional people in the military use in war. So this is why they're so good. This is why they're a great propaganda outlet, because they take the most cartoonish version of the other side's argument. because they take the most cartoonish version of the other side's argument and they're like, OK, so they you know, this is an organization that has three very clear things. They want to get rid of certain weapons. They want the minimum on background checks and like one other thing that I can't remember because I'm a you know, you're an old you're an old I'm an old and I'm also an ill-informed liberal. But instead of talking about those specific talking points and things that the marchers are asking for, they're like they think guns should never have been invented and they want them to disappear magically. Right. Which nobody has ever said that.

And what's next? These invisible guns are going to be marrying each other? That never existed? Like, whoa, hold on. You're messing up all your weird psychopathic fantasies. But it is weird. I said this on the last podcast, the last episode I was on, and I'm going to say it again. It is weird to see this outlet using Alex Jones' talking points, like trying to use the crisis actor angle.

And what's even more pathetic is them pussyfooting it to be like, well, you do the math, right? Like if you're going to do that, if you're going to make that kind of disgusting statement, then actually have the balls to say it. Don't,

don't pussyfoot around it. Like it's just, it's really pathetic. Like it's, it really is. That's exactly right. Uh, they also had a segment where one of their men on the street went out to interview some of the kids and asked them what they thought of the Second Amendment.

And most of them were just like, it's outdated or it's made for a different time. And then they cut back to the Fox in-studio team and they're, ha yeah, just tear up the constitution, I guess. And then, uh, one of the guys on Fox and friends was like, they don't learn about the constitution in class. And first of all,

like everything the kids say is right. Obviously they like leave in the ums and ahs to make them seem dumber. Uh, it's very like Jay Leno, Jay walking type thing. But, uh, so they make them seem as dumb as possible but everything like the content

of what the students are saying is true it was literally made for a different time and labeling the second amendment outdated is such a reasonable position that a supreme court decision in 2008 brought it up it was a dissenting opinion but justice

John Paul Stevens was like look I don't think that court decision in 2008 brought it up it was a dissenting opinion but justice john paul stevens was like look i don't think that the framers of the constitution were thinking about handguns when they gave militiamen the right to keep muskets and like that's a completely valid argument but basically they show these kids having valid arguments and they're like oh yeah sure but what's so funny is that they're like oh yeah, yeah, no, it still holds up today. Our childhood movies don't even hold up today. But this document does. Yeah.

I mean, also to the guns they were even talking about then. It just took like 40 seconds to shoot. Yeah. So in their mind, there wasn't like, well, you know, one of these cycles will get loose with a musket. Something could happen. You know, well, you know, one of these psychos will get loose with a musket. Something could happen. You know, again, very different times. And these people, yeah. They were impossible to aim also. They were impossible.

They were so hard to aim that like, you know, once people invented rifles like we have today for the Civil War, that was the reason the Civil War was so bloody is because the generals weren't used to weapons that you could actually aim straight right and so they like fought the war like you were just running up to people and like blasting at your general direction and but because the weapons actually fired straight like lots and lots of people died because they just didn't they hadn't adapted their uh tactics for a world in which straight-shooting effective weaponry existed. And they had in mind when they wrote the Constitution the same deal. Like they were thinking of muskets and shitty things that fired round, things that knuckleballed out into the air and who the fuck knew where it was landing. Who else was avoiding meaningful coverage of the march? Well, the NRA TV.

No. Yeah. Really? Yeah. They had a great clip where Grant Stinchfield went on a rant about how the leaders of the march, quote, hate our country and are willing to, quote, hijack a group of grieving children to advance their bogus cause. And then Dana Loesch or Lash, what's how do you pronounce?

Dana Lash showed up and, you know, segued into the most important issue that everybody had on their mind at this march that was 100 percent about gum rights abortion. And we talked about the false equivalency that people on the right were drawing to that for 20 minutes last week, so I don't think we need to do that. One funny detail of this segment is that they have Stinchfield in studio at NRA TV headquarters in Dallas,

and Dana Lash comes in via satellite live from uh also dallas oh so like when they do like she just didn't want to like drive over or something she's like yeah i'm across town sorry hey look can you send a satellite truck over here at least lie say she's like next door east or something oh right go whole lot yeah yeah like yeah i'm live from dc actually right yeah exactly up the street or probably just in the next studio and like you know i guess they Oh, right. Go whole hog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, I'm live from D.C. actually. Right. Yeah, exactly. Not up the street or probably just in the next studio. And like, you know, I guess they chose to be honest for that one.

It would be tacky to say she wasn't in Dallas. Side note, Stinchfield is a last name I'd give a villain in a comic book, I'm right. Stinchfield. Seriously. I love the point you made, Ify, about how like movies don't even hold up from our childhood. Like that's the thing that, you know, somebody called me out. I was talking about how my main things that I always bring up are the British coal gas study. And I forget what the other thing is. The dependency ratio. The dependency ratio are like my main things.

And they were like, no, man, you're the Flynn effect is your second most common thing. And that's true. The Flynn effect, which says that children's IQs are going up like three points every 10 years, which is true. And I think that that's why movies from like the 70s and 80s don't hold up is because the world like is getting progressively smarter. Right. And I think that's also why we're seeing people like, what? These kids, they know less than nothing about guns. Why should we listen to them?

It's like, no, they're actually just the first generation that their IQ has progressed to the point where they look around and they're like, wait, what the fuck is happening? They're like, wait, y'all thought Shakespeare in Love was the best picture? Nah, nah, y'all are fucking dumb. Here we go. And I'm going to tweet this. So, you know, if I don't get around to tweeting this yet, you heard it here first. But basically, it's funny because the way we look at these kids are so wrong because everyone can admit that wisdom isn't age. It's experience.

Absolutely. that wisdom isn't age, it's experience. So when you look at these Parkland kids who actually lived through a school shooting, they have more wisdom on guns than a lot of these people who are sitting up in their studios, waking up, throwing out their Keurig so they're using a drip coffee machine. Like a herb. Yeah. Like they don't know. They're yelling at these kids, calling them dumb, but you don't know what it's like to be around an active shooter. And you'd probably be talking a different tune if you were.

Yeah, but have these kids humped a gun before? No, they haven't. So see, they don't know what they're talking about. We need to get to – that brings us to our next favorite form of right-wing guns rights sort of protest against gun control. Oh, my gosh. So their gun videos are being banned from YouTube, right? Yeah, a lot of them. Like ones that are explicitly about how to make a firearm.

How to make a gun. Yeah, or like ammunition. How to convert a gun to automatic or simulated automatic fire. Other illegal things. People are like, what? You're going to take that down as bullshit. So now they're uploading those videos to porn hub yep because uh that's you know you can get away with it there i guess which by the way porn hub is one of the most politically outspoken porn sites so i cannot wait

for them like i think they're just waiting for all of them to be done and just gonna mask wipe and say fuck your guns you know yeah I don't think at the time when we were first looking into it they hadn't really said anything yet but I'm sure eventually they're gonna be like bruh this is not for you unless it's a video of someone humping a gun I wish they're like and we're banning porn from you

you're done here you're done got all your IPs take that shit to x in xx go to x hamster and the only other piece of gun news is also somewhat bad news for the right wing. I don't know if that last one's necessarily bad news for them. No, it's just kind of interesting, but it's showing that the culture – You get to go to Pornhub and have an excuse for being there other than that you're watching pornography. Hey, what are you doing on Pornhub, Daryl?

I'm just learning how to convert my gun. Sorry, that was an offensive impression of how Southern people talk. He would say, excuse me, Susan, I'm learning how to make a high-capacity magazine. Exactly. Okay, now let me mod on. So Remington has apparently filed for a Chapter 11 bankruptcy. One of the oldest gun manufacturers in the country Has, in the words of Michael Scott, I declare bankruptcy. They've declared Chapter 11 to bankruptcy.

Now, this isn't like news because in February they said, look, we're probably going to have to file for bankruptcy because they knew how bad it was. But many other, you know, a lot of gun manufacturers are feeling it because gun sales have been down since Trump took office because, oh, guess what? When you don't have a Democrat, you can't push your fear mongering shit of your guns about to be taken away. And even now it's not like, yeah, even like Ruger, like their sales have been down. Like it's not a it's not a good time to be making bang bangs. Yeah. You would think that the whole thing is that when there's a school shooting or when a barack obama gets elected president uh gun sales shoot up because everyone's afraid they're going to ban them but even that hasn't been working presumably because they have already bought like all the guns like people and americans are just like well i've my whole house i have just a whole room filled with guns well at this point i

don't know if they've really done much to expand their universe of supporters. I think if anything, they can maybe move people who are already NRA members from the kind of interested into the slightly more aggressive version. But I don't know how many people are like, hey, man, I saw that video with Killer Mike, and now I'm all in with the NRA. I'm bored. Which is another video killer mike was apparently duped into doing an interview with that guy coleon noir whatever the the black dude who's on the nra tv who's doing really good for them apparently killer mike was on and a lot of people were like yo what the fuck because he was they cut the interview to sort of look like that he was against this like these kids march but he was on there to talk about black ownership of guns and things like that and he was like hold on they

used my thing but he was also at the end he was like, hold on. They use my thing. But he was also at the end. He was like, I can also advocate for like black people to own guns and also be in favor of gun control. Uh, but yeah, it was interesting how he got, he got duped a little bit,

but yeah. Well, you should have known. Yeah. I'm like, this thing, the NRA isn't like for what? Like,

I'm not, I'm not going to go on to like Alex Jones show and think I'm going to be shown in a good light. Right, right, right. I've got everyone over here. You're one of the best gamers out there, right? Yeah, yeah. I'm one of the best gamers. And you're using InfoWars Brain Force supplement.

Wait, what? Yeah. Caveman vitamins. Yeah, and that's when it's like, yeah, I love the Brain Force supplement. Oh, God. Oh, total Franken-bite. Yeah. Right.

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Like, where do I recognize that person from? What did I say on this subject? Like, just. Oh, wow. She was like his. Alexa. Yeah, exactly. And what did i say on this subject like just oh wow she was like his alexa yeah exactly and hope what did i say just now yeah and now she's going away so uh well that's why again hold on to your butt already knew we already knew so uh some things that are trending right now uh the ncaa tournament is all over the trends uh which, you know, it's not surprising.

But I guess each year has gone up more and more. The NCAA tournament has become like a bigger and bigger deal every year. And that continued this year. I thought maybe it was going to, you know, peter out because of all the scandals and NCAAcaa basketball being at its worst stage but i think there's just a general overall trend of you know people craving like live events and live experiences to share with other people on social media um lil zan uh is is trending because he apparently so this is a young rapper i like how you even struggled to even give him that distinction. He's a young piece of shit with face tattoos who needs to just fucking stay in school.

So he looks like he's like maybe 16. I think he's about 8 or 9. And he talks shit about Tupac. So what you're going to hear is them asking, well, so what do you give Tupac on the scale of 1 to 10? He gives a spicy answer. He gives Tupac a 2 and calls his shit boring. Now, let me tell you something. You cannot say that shit in the West Coast or in hip-hop generally speaking.

You cannot talk shit about Biggie or Tupac. Anyway, so he got pressed by a bunch of teenagers, and he sort of went on an apology tour after the fact. So what you're going to hear is his answer and then sort of immediately walking it back in front of a group of, like, kind of angry teenagers. Who? This is boring music. That's him really high. For real, I got to say something. The media is twisting my words.

I think Tupac is a legend. Tupac is definitely a legend. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You know what I mean? Tupac a legend. They just twist your words and they want you to hate me. Don't hate me.

Positivity. Yeah. The media twisted my words is always the worst sentence to parse together. But to follow that up with, I believe Tupac is a legend is crazy. Because when you say the media twisted my words, that means I'm put in a situation where my words have gotten me into so much trouble. And then to know that the source of all that chaos is the fact that he went and said some shit. Like he's from California. You've got to know better.

But like there are a few other videos where like kids were just walking up to him on the street. They're like, hey, homie, you're not even close to being Tupac. What did you say about him? He's like, no, I like Tupac. I love Tupac. You're getting me wrong and then he played California Love

at a recent show but like didn't try and rap anything no no he just like bobbed his head to the if he really is about that like being on Zans bruh

you'd he probably didn't even remember saying that shit let me tell you about a place called the Wild Wild West we're going straight to the Wild Wild West no no no going straight to the Wild Wild West.

No, no, no. You're fucking it up, man. What? Am I? That's my favorite Tupac song. Yeah. So I wanted to get iffy. We've been seeing trending for the past like three weeks.

We've been seeing Fortnite on Google Trends. And I knew that became a big deal when Drake streamed, but it was actually out there before Drake streamed. It existed before Drake. Yeah, it existed and was like one of the main things in our sort of digital unconscious. So I'm curious. What's your take on Fortnite? Oh, man. Let's hear your take on Fortnite.

Oh, man. If he is a gamer, if he is the host of forthcoming podcast Nerdificent, which had its trailer drop last week, its episode zero launches tomorrow, and then episode one launches next week on Tuesday. But if he – give us the breakdown on Fortnite. Oh, man. Fortnite is such an interesting moment in gaming so just to give you the full background there was a game called player unknown battlegrounds called pub g which was a spin-off of a game called h1z1 which had a game mode called king of the kill h1z1 was a survival zombie game yeah and then they had a spin-off game called king of the kill where 100 players would drop on an island.

And basically just like Battle Royale and Hunger Games, Last Man Standing wins. PlayerUnknown modded the game Arma to create both the mod H1Z1, then he left H1Z1 and then created PlayerUnknown Battlegrounds, which was a more realistic and tactical take on the King of the Hill because King of the Hill was kind of cartoony. What ended up happening is as PUBG grew in popularity, H1Z1 tried competing and going the same route of just being more tactical, and the fans hated it because they liked both of them. Meanwhile, there was a game called Fortnite created by Epic Games. You may know them from such games as Gears of War, Unreal Tournament. I've heard of that.

And they had a game called Fortnite, which was a cool because not only does it take the fun parts of the battle royale but it adds its own fortnite flair by adding a building aspect so you can scavenge for resources and build a base in the in the midst of all of this and you're fighting against how many people 100 as well so you're it's like you're dropped on an island there's 100 people there and you're all trying to kill each other and be the last one alive. See, this is what the NRA was talking about. Right. So you can do solo, duos, or a squad of four.

And you're playing against real people. You're playing against real people. And so what ended up happening is PUBG was great. It was an early access game, which means that it wasn't fully released. Then it released, and it wasn't that great, because it was still broken. There was no incentive for PlayerUnknown to really develop the game out, because it was already getting used in esports. There was so much money in it, so I feel like it just took a dip in bug squashing

and more into monetization and how they can make money. They're still doing well, though. They're still competing. But Fortnite kind of is more polished because it was already a pretty almost complete game. And they just added this mode. How much Fortnite are you playing? I'm playing quite a bit.

I went back and I was playing The Witcher, but now I'm back on Fortnite. And you were playing with Edgar Montplaisir earlier? Yeah. And you had to carry him? I carried him. When I joined up, he was like, I'm just on Fortnite. And you were playing with Edgar Montplaisir earlier this week? Yeah, yeah. And you had to carry him? Yeah, I carried him. Like, when I joined up, he was like, I'm just trying to make it into the top 10. Two games later, he's in the top 10. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah.

How did that work out? You know, your boy is nice with the tool. What do you think is the – because I've watched a few, like, clips of streams of people playing and stuff like that. For someone like me, because I'm about to just download it and probably ruin my life. Yeah. What do you say to people who have been hearing about it? Sell them on it right now. Okay.

What's cool about it – To end their social life. Like you're saying you're going to end your social life. You kind of do, but you kind of don't. Because you can't socialize in the game? Well, no, because of the reason that the games can vary. Like your average game is probably about 15, 20 minutes. Right.

Oh, so is it just like a very small space that you're all in? Oh, yeah. I forgot to mention after like every two minutes, the circle gets smaller and pushes everyone together. So it moves like you – it's not just you survive as long as you survive. The circle is going to push you together until there's one man standing. But games can be as long as 20 minutes and as short as 30 seconds because you can land, someone's right by you with a shotgun, and you're done. Is it always 100 people? Yeah, it's always 100.

Sometimes it'll dip to like 98, but usually 90-plus all the time. And what's dope about it is if you've got somewhere to go, you're like, let me bang one out. You can probably bang one or two out because the games are so fast and you can get on with your life but if you're like oh man no but i get i get addicted so i'm like i get that loop going so you ever been last man standing oh oh yeah i've i've won a few times but i here's the thing and here's where i will cut edgar and cody some slack who I was carrying into greatness. There's cross-play.

So I can play with you on my PC when you're on PS4, and you can, as a PS4, can play with someone who's playing mobile. The thing is, though, is if someone's playing mobile and you're playing PS4, they get bumped up to PS4. And if I'm playing PC and we're all on ps4 everyone on ps4 gets bumped up to the pc player base when you say bumped up you mean like the engine is uh what it means is like you're playing against people on pc got it so you're using ps4 controllers but you're playing against pc players so it's gonna be there's gonna be a slight difference. It's going to be hard to keep up because PC, we can 360. PC is the fastest? Well, just because you have a mouse, you have a quicker range of motion in your visual.

You get to aim, yeah. PC Master Race. Yeah. All right, man. That totally made sense. So, Jack, that sounds like you're going to be on Fortnite? That is definitely the most excited about a video game i have been uh it's free mario 64 double dragon and battle toads yeah i mean crossover my last gaming uh

experience was n64 and now that had a golden eye and shit and this sounds like golden eye but like times a thousand oh yeah it sounds pretty dope Yeah. That's the main selling point. I keep forgetting. It's free. Yeah, exactly. It's a free game and it plays like it's shouldn't be free. Yeah.

Ooh, damn. Love that. Infinity war is the only movie that's making it into our sort of global or American mind space. I think the memes are the thing that's really taken is that what people are yeah just sort of like infinity war will be the greatest crossover event of our time and then people have just been responding with like better crossover things right that's

the only that's the only like engagement i've had with them because that trailer looked super whack to me like the bad guy the dude like thanos yeah he looks like a fucking claymation character he just did not look very interesting this is and i think it's one of the things where the hype is really coming from the comic book fans because thanos is like that dude yeah right he he is like the biggest baddest dude they can fight i it's almost to the point where it's like, do y'all need to keep making movies after this? Cause you're going to fight the baddest dude. Right. Right.

The main dude. Got it. All right. If he, it has been a pleasure as always having you, uh, on the daily zeitgeist. Uh,

where can people find you? Oh, you can find me at if you, why do you weigh? I have Y N W a Dw-e on twitter and instagram if you're looking for those lifting pics go to ify lifts on instagram that's where i'm pushing weight the legal kind and where and where can people uh listen to you oh you can listen to me on nerdificent every tuesday like like uh jack said episode zero is going to be a dropping tomorrow and episode uh one will be dropping next tuesday

and then you know new episodes from then on and yeah y'all heard danny who's like the other co-host she was on the uh well last week so yeah now it's time for you to listen to their show but the way if you just made fortnite make sense to you they're gonna be making sense of all sorts of geek culture uh things that you see in pop culture and might not totally understand. They're going to make it approachable. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me

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We link off to articles and sources of the information that we talked about in today's episode. That is going to do it for today. Miles, do you have a song to write us out on? Yeah, okay. So speaking of things that, like, of things that time moves by, a great album by the artist Uncle called Science Fiction came out in 1998, 20 years ago, and there's a track

that I would love to play on there featuring Tom York called Rabbit in Your Headlights, which is kind of, you know, a lot of people don't realize that this is an Uncle song, but it has a great Tom York vocals on it, and this was 20 years ago, and this shit sounds like a good song for right now. So keep that in your mind.

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