The Daily Zeitgeist - Fox News Horny For Barron, Tariff-ying Halloween! 10.02.25

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

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You got to come back to Keith Ib in his will. Yeah, sorry, change the lyrics, Nicole. It's about my guitar player now. That is so fucking wild. Keith Urban changed Nicole Kidman lyric to shout out guitar player Maggie Baugh before Split News. Oh, does the plot thicken? Like Dickens? Yeah.

The fighter, which features Karen, when they're trying to, when they're trying to get to you, baby, I'll be the fighter. Urban 57 usually sings. However, he instead offered a shout out to his guitarist and rising country music star. Oh, boy. When they're trying to get to you, Maggie, I'll be your guitar player. That is the worst fucking lyrics.

We need to talk about this. Sorry, Nicole, you dodged a bullet there. And probably dodged one because you live in Oz where they don't have guns just fucking lying about like they do here. They have guns, but the bullets are really slow, like in Mario. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can dodge them pretty, pretty easily. Yeah.

You can actually jump on top of it and completely disarm it. He's got to jump on top of the bullet, like Mario. When they're trying to get to you, Maggie, I'll be your guitar. This guy is horny and going to die alone. It's like 70% of men, I think. Yeah, but this is like thirsty. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like, you get a, thirsty. Thirsty. What do you think? Do you think he's, is it a, is he fucking the guitar player? I wouldn't put it past him. That old dirty dog, that Nashville alley cat. It's not a very romantic lyric if he is. Yeah.

Well, but it's also it feels unnecessary because it's not like he was like, when they're trying to get to you, Nicole Kidman, my wife of 19 years. It's just like, when they're trying to get to you, I'll be your fighter. This just feels like, I guess maybe they're like, does he still sing the lyric that we all know is about Nicole? And then just to be like, I'll be there for you, 25-year-old guitar player. As a father figure?

Depends on what part of porn hub you're on. They're like, it's a fucking goon, dude. Yeah, mate, I am gooting all the time. Even on the edge, as they say. You have orgasm. I hope Nicole Kidman starts dating Ben Simmons. Just got from one. Just fuck it.

Yeah, you know what I mean? like Australians doing things that you don't expect Australians to do country music playing I've only just gone and fucked a spider like all right Nicole good for you get on with your life what's going on Ben what a great time to jump in on this

yeah yeah we're just speculating wildly on Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban's divorce right now I think you nailed that from what I've heard you're right where you need to be this is fucking spiders who among us you know what I mean I mean I don't know I don't know that Australian phrase that they say, they say, we're not here to fuck spiders. Like, we're not here to fucking waste time.

I, you know what? I do hear that a lot. I never really knew what that was, but now that I hear it a lot. And now, okay. Comes up a lot. I was going to call it insect protective services. Yeah. I think someone's fucking the spiders next door.

I don't know. I'm hearing weird noises and everyone in the, my neighbor's house, they're always bloated when they come outside. They pump his, like, bites on him. It's crazy out there. He always has, like, spider webs all over his pants. It's very off pudding. Oh, man. Well, Ben, thanks for coming on, man.

Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. This is, I'm excited. Wow. I'm excited to have you, man. Thanks. Ready to go. I'm fired up.

I said that. Yeah, yeah. You're going to be talking about all the spider stuff that actually has something to do with what we'll be talking about some of my stuff today. So I don't know if you're prepared for me or if you're, We're just, like, linked up. No, bro, I fuck with spiders just generally. That's my thing.

Well, there's something I need you to handle at my house right now because I can't. Where do you live in L.A.? No. Where do you live? I live in Minneapolis, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's fine. I'll go.

I'll fly you out. You'll get flued out to take care of my, my spider problem. I've got a spider that's just been outside one of the windows in my house. And it's just set up camp with the biggest spider web. And I'm just like seeing it. get fatter and fatter it's like the size of a fist now no it isn't killing it's gotten it's gone from like this big to like yeah it's gonna it's gonna start trapping birds in a second oh hell yeah i had a roommate who um was a spider no no he was fucking all the time no um he as a child he had to help

his dad out in the crawl space underneath his house and he couldn't see what was going on And he thought he had, like, hit something that just made, like, dust fall down on him. But it turned out. Justin, I don't like where this is going. Justin, I don't like where it's going. It was a full sack of, like, spider eggs. And he is horrified of spiders now. He can't take being in a room.

Wow, what's his problem? Yeah. Yeah, he's fully freaked out by spiders all the way now. That would be wild if we found out that Australia. Because Australians, like, came up with that phrase not here to fuck spiders. And they're like, no, it's just random. It's about nothing. And then you just find out it's like them just covering up the fact that they're always fucking

fucking, they fuck a spider out there, man. They fuck spiders. That's why they said that. Yeah. Just going out of their way. Someone had to be there to fuck spiders for that phrase to have. That's what broke up the Keith, Irvin, Nicole Kidman, Merrick. They were both fucking spiders behind the other.

Oh, Nicole. Oh, what the fuck is these key that caught you again with a bunch of spiders? Oh, babe, come on, you're back. Whatever. No, that's exactly how they sound. That's exactly how the divorce went down. This is an I-Heart podcast. Hi there.

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Lost it at the end. It's Thursday, October 2nd, 2025. Yep, yep. Two days deep into spooky season. Spooky season. And now I don't even have to Google when my seven-year-old inevitably asks me every morning how many days until Halloween. And you know how to do the math. I can do that fucking math.

Oh, how many days? 33 days left, son. 33 days. Wait. Hope you're buckle up. I always forget which one. It's addition. It's a pair.

Yeah, yeah. I know it's two. We got to do two in one direction. Let's just go with 33. October 2nd is National Smarties Day National Custodial Workers Recognition Day National Fried Scallops Day If you're having a scallop

Fried Scallops, make sure you're fried up Fried Scallops, profly I kind of like a panseared Whoa, I got so excited I just spit into my mic In the image, it is a panseered scallops, depending on where you're from It's not like deep fried Kentucky fried scallops

No, no, no, no It's just I guess it's just pan fried National Produce Misting Day That's so fucking specific But shout out to the misters On the fucking vegetable display That keeps the shit Tender and juicy

With the list I want to go to like The Industry Awards For Vegetable Misting Where they're just like New Innovation Newcomer of the year In Vegetable Misting

Have you seen what MISCO's been up to? They might unseat Cisco It's also National Name Your Car Day I don't know if you ever had a name For one of your cars I never I was never one of those people. I was not one of those people either. No.

My sister had a name for one of hers. It wasn't like a human, it wasn't like Henry or some shit. It was like a, that shit box. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a Honda Accord that we had left the windows open because I think we were smoking cigarettes in the car at some point and left the windows open during a rainstorm and it just smelled like hockey equipment in there. It was nasty.

It smelled bad. Kande Nast. Conday Nass. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Taco John O'Brien, but I go by Taco Jack O'Brien. My real name is John, and that is an honor of our guest,

who will get to in a second. But I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host. Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Gray, aka, sit to look at her, Lota Nicky, mad, bad, bad, mad, mad, mad, mad,

bad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, bad, mad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, Bad, bad, mad, bad, mad, bad, bad, bad. Okay, shout out to Lumberjack on the Discord for that wonderful bad bunny, Nueva y'ol, aka, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I had to, getting in your bad bunny bag is somebody who lives on the West Coast, not hearing a lot of Puerto Rican Spanish, you have to really, you got to, I'm not going to lie. Lumberjack, I had to little rehearse that to really get the bad bunny.

All morning. We were 45 minutes late for this recording. yeah yeah yeah this episode almost didn't come out today because like jack i got a fuck have you ever you know how you can inhale helium and it makes your voice high have you ever inhaled the one that makes your voice low no i want that one so bad that one's so good so fun you but i feel like that would you hit that you've hit that i don't think i've hit it but i've like seen it at like a science fair or some shit and uh i was like let me hit that man come on man yeah he's like this is a livestock yard uh what is it What is it?

Sulfur hexafluoride. SF6. Where do you get it? Zite game. Give me some sulfur hexafloor. I want to be like, Yo, what's up? Just the chopped and screwed episode.

Yeah, yeah, because I feel like that's a bad bunny goes so low. Oh, yeah. So low. So low.

If you went to even, sit to look at a little dug out a little dugged a bad, blah, yeah. Feeling like, like his music, like his vocals hit me in the chest the way that like bass stuff,

you know, it's like boom. Yeah. Yeah, that's what Benito do to you. Anyways, Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny comedian, podcaster, and author whose graphic novels include, Hello, My Name is Poop, and Muddy Waters, too, coming out later this year, co-authored with Red Man.

He's the host of the Troll Hole podcast in his debut special. Supple Harlet is out now. Please welcome Ben Katzner. What's up? What's that? Every part of me wanted to do a bad bunny impression, but I'm just not that guy. I don't want to call something the appropriated. No, no, not recorded.

I don't. I'll tell you that right now. Mike's just like, well, we're all Americans. So it's on the table. That's a good one. It's actually woke to do that. You're saying that you think Puerto Rico is not part of appropriation. That's just a fellow state.

I really tried to honor the source of truth because if I said, Situ Lo K. N.A. K. Medbed. Then it's completely, it's way off, way off. You've got to see to look at it, okay, but anyway. Why are you doing that perfect Puerto Rican access, Miles? That sounded amazing to me. What are you talking about? It's American.

It's American. Ben, we're thrilled to have you. You're coming to us from the great city of Minneapolis. Is that right? That is true. Yeah, I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having me. I don't have a bad buddy impression, but I can't say this.

If it's national, name your car day or whatever. I had a 2006 Hyundai Alontera about 10 years ago And it's name was the bang bus So that was The banged bus And why Because you banged in you went into shit Just banging into shit all the time

Every time I backed it up I just hit shit It's called it the bang bus That's right That's actually little known origin of the name of the bang bus Had nothing to do with its use for flucking It was just the It backed up

And we'd go would just really make a loud banging sound that would freak everybody out. It's like, damn, we just banged bust into a family of four. We got to get out of here. Banged this bus into, yeah. Also, I have to ask, as somebody who grew up, my first fake ID name was Reggie Noble, which is Red Man's government name. Okay.

Yeah, that's awesome. What was it like working with Red Man right now? so this is a great question i'll tell you when i find out uh so here's the thing we did this we did this thing together but via like email and a lot of me working with my team him working with his team okay i'm going to new york comic con okay yeah i'm going to meet him in person for the first time there wow and i that's november right no that's uh october oh october 9th through the 12th oh shit it's coming up okay it's coming up so i don't know what it's like to work It was interesting seeing his work and being like, yo, Red Man's really into feet.

Like, that was my first impression. You're like, Red Man's really like smart talent. Red Man's really into feet. Very funny guy. More than we. But definitely, there were a lot of stuff. So I adapted his new album, Muddy Waters, too, just came out to follow up to Muddy Waters. Yeah.

Everybody loves it, whatever. He did a screenplay. I adapted that into a graphic novel. Wow. I'm going off of his work, right? And then there'd just be like, scene after scene, after seeing, it'd be like, and then her beautiful toes come out.

And then out of nowhere, this woman's feet protrude from her. I'm like, okay, look, my guy likes me, you know this, right? So that's what it was there. Oh, you sensed that? You sensed that in my work? Oh, you picked up on that. Okay, so you're a literate person. Yeah, he's like, it was pretty subtle.

Good for you. Damn, Quentin, we just lost 15 pages to you describe Noma Thurman's feet of this. All of his screenplays so long. So I wish I had a better, I would like, I wish I could be like, yo, we sat through, he got me, he spoke to me out, whatever, but I will meet him and I will get back to you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's due. All right.

Well, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about today. Fox News is being creepy as hell about Baron Trump, and he went on a date. And they're just like, I don't know. He went on a day. Yeah, maybe he gets, they used the phrase dessert. They say he was surely rewarded with dessert.

Hate that. That's terrifying. That is so fucking. This is diabolical. That's crazy. Then we'll talk about how his dad is ruining Halloween. We'll talk about the, our new robot overlords, specifically a cop pulled over a waymo for an alleged U-turn, for an illegal U-turn.

I like alleged to. Alleged. Let's be fair to the fucking robot, okay, allegedly. You know what I mean? It's innocent until proven guilty. That's right. And then how everybody thinks that Simone, the movie that is... Sim 1?

Sim 1. Uh-huh. Simone. That, you know, a movie that is so, you know, painted into the national shared consciousness that I don't even know how to pronounce it. But it was a shitty Al Pacino movie that appears to be coming true with an AI actress. All of that, plenty more. But first, Ben, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history

that's revealing about who you are. Something that I can say that just gets my mom listens to this is my last Google, I was searching Minnesota spiders, all right? We were talking about this before the show a little bit. I actually have been Googling spiders because there's a fat spider in my yard that is, you know, when a bug is so big that you're like, I think if I'd kill you, I go to jail. It's that level, it's that level of spider.

Yeah. It's really, I take like several blows. from like a newspaper. Yeah. It's not a fly swatter situation. We're squaring up. We're bad. I need a gloves.

I need a can of paint. Yeah. To smash it. And like a torch. But so this, this, I, my, my, my position is outdoor spiders are fine. They're, they're not bothering me, whatever. Yeah. I need to cut my lawn.

My lawn is looking terrible right now because I am, that the spider is the alpha in my yard right now. The spider is the alpha in my yard right now. This is one spider? It's literally one, but I'm not kidding. It's probably, it's probably like a, it's bit for me, for Minnesota, it's bit, right? Right, right, right. Like, if I, if I kill it, it'll crunch. And I don't like that sort of thing.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to disturb it. It's like, it's kind of like a, it's a beautiful thing. What's your concern? Like, you're going to be mowing your lawn and then you're going to lawn mower the fuck out of it or something? Or you just don't want it or it's going to descend on you as your mom's going to touch me.

Yeah, I don't want to let it. I don't let it burn. I don't care. But, like, it's just big enough that I feel like it might have a margin of intelligence. And I would have to push more through it if I'm going to cut my grass. So I've been thinking about, like, should I leave it? Is it deadly? That's a stupid question in Minnesota.

But whatever. So I Google. It's not. I Google Minnesota spiders. And I was just trying to see what kind of spider is. I still haven't quite figured out. When you said you Googled Minnesota Spite, I thought, I was hoping it was like a minor league hockey team. That does sound good.

I was like, Minnesota spiders, you know, I mean, because I know University of Richmond, they're the spiders. I always, like, whenever I see that basketball jersey, I'm like, that's the sickest jersey out there. It rules. It's just fucking spiders on it. Nobody you fucks with the spider as a mascot, which is really odd to me. Yeah, people choose demon over spider. That's how much they don't like spiders in this country.

That is wild. Anything but a spider, huh? Huh. Like multiple colors of demon. There's like blue demon, red devil. Yeah. And they double down, too. Sogs, the worst, the worst article in clothing.

Hornets, there's a lot of colors. What do we go with? Yeah, yeah. No one's done the roaches yet or anything. That's, that's the bottom two. But a spider's intimidating, you know what I mean? It's gross. They're like alphas.

Yeah, they're bullying you out of your own yard. Like, imagine, imagine losing to the spiders, and then they just, like, lay eggs in your girl after the game or something like that, you know? right that's a tough that's a tough out yeah exactly they're like and thousands of them bro yeah yeah you're a father now i'm not gonna be here to take care of it you just ate me you got 3,000 stepchildren my head off yeah i think that's praying mantises uh yeah i've got i've got a spider in my front yard that has been it just like found the best spot so it's like always outside the same window yeah it's built an elaborate web that like comes down sometimes and then we'll just be back the next day is just out here building and then feasting. It is getting, like, noticeably bigger as it just, like, is killing it. It had a great September, I will say.

Now, do you guys have this? You're in L.A., right? Yeah. Do you have those, we don't have them here yet, but they're on the East Coast, and I'm waiting for this when this happens. Do you have those, like, quote-unquote, flying spiders, like, they float on their webs, and then they're huge, and they just, like, rain down from the sky and just land. No, but I've seen videos of those.

get ready for it that they like sail on their web yeah yeah yeah i'm good with the spiders my spider karma was really good so i'm like i'm like yeah bring it man i fuck with you people are worried about a i should be worried about spiders raining spiders raining from the sky one of my favorite like piece of information i learned in the past couple years was that like the sky you like you look up at the sky and it appears to be blue or gray or whatever but like it's actually full of bugs like the bugs are just like not just like flying bugs but like bugs that bugs that don't fly

just like catch a ride on the wind all the time and like there if you just like cut a square chunk like of the sky above you there would just be like tens of thousands of bugs just like floating around up there

the bugs world I've always said that they just like decide they don't want to be where they are and they just like lift up their arms and get taken away on that gust of wind it's fucking sick that's freedom man

yeah that's what I'm talking about they're actively trying to end their own lives and then they just have the best ride of their life. I'm good now. Take me away. Yeah. That's right. I'd like to do that.

They're like hands up. And you put your hands up and then just get somewhere else. Batman, get dark knighted out of there. What is something you think is underrated? Okay. This is happening recently. I think when you're having a casual conversation and somebody asks an intense question, I think that's underrated, okay?

So you're talking about day, you're talking about the weather, even. Yep. And then someone just goes, this is literally what just happening with this last weekend. Someone just went, so what age do you want to die at? Yes. We all just kind of sat in that and really talked about like the morbid nature of our system. This is so funny because yes, one of our guests yesterday, their underrated was, or maybe their overrated was getting too deep.

But basically that. Their underrated was talking about the weather, just like keeping it light. Yeah, yeah. Keeping it light. Keeping it light. And I love that. You come in and go, dude, I was talking about the weather. And someone's going to die. When do you want to die? Is the crazy thing to come in with. That sounds like a threat. Like, there's a threat barrier you done that. That is while, yeah. It's probably like 5-4-125-pound woman. So she was ready to kill me for sure.

She's like, I have that thing on me. What do you, what, did you give an answer or did you kind of I said, yeah, my, I'm just trying to pick up my Taco Johns, lady. I mean, the amount of, the amount of Taco Johns I've had in my life, it's crazy. I'm still alive. Let's just, let's just put it all out there, okay? But yeah, I said, so because of that, hopefully this isn't too sad. I remember being like, not that I, like, came up in the streets or anything, but I remember being young and not being able to, like, see what my life would be past 25. Yeah.

I'm well past that now. But, so I was like, I'm good at, like, six. 64, 66. Yeah. Everyone at the table got very sad. They were all like 85, 94. And I was like, yeah, give me like a hard 64. And I'm good.

I've done everything I need to. I don't know, like maybe 15, 20 minutes. You set a timer. I just lay in traffic. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, Tago Johns is a local Minnesota Taco Bell variant. And I think people in this in the central parts

of the country, know about it, right? No about Taco Jones. They should. DJs. Yeah, that's a, that's a heavy one. I've never seen somebody in their 90s look like they're just living a normal life. Like, once you hit the 90s, it's, like,

it's a different way of living. It's a different way of living. Like, it is subsistence. Like, you, it just, it feels like your awareness is down to, like, a pinhole. Like, you have, like, a pinhole view and, like, ability to interact with existence. And you'll have so much energy to interact too. Yeah, sure.

Like, my grandmother lived to be 100. And in her 90s, it wasn't until, like, she hit 95 when it started getting the thing where she's always kind of had a routine of like wake up, smoke a cigarette, breakfast. If there's baseball, watch Japanese baseball. If there's sumo wrestling, watch the sumo wrestling. You are indestructible. Bro, she has another cigarette, then have some beer. She would always drink beer every night.

But like a little, you know how they have many cans of Coke? Yeah. They have many cans of beer in Japan. So she would have one of those be wasted and go to bed and fucking do it all over. And it was the same thing. Hey, once you were just like this like cycle where even if I, like, you know, I'd visit maybe like with a year in between because I wouldn't be able to travel being in school or something like that. And when I'd see her, she would be like, oh, you're back. And I'm like, it's been a year, man.

She's sort of like, I don't know, motherfucker. I've been doing my same shit every day. I'm good, baby. Yeah. She's like, it's been a hundred years for me. You have no idea. People who have those routines who live really long are like, they have the same energy as like a conspiracy theorist that realizes one of the conspiracies is true, right?

So they think that like everything they do contributes to how long. They're like, hey, I've smoked two cigarettes a day and had a beer before bed. Yeah. It's working for me. And it's work for me. So, like, this is what it is. That's the same person who's like, I've been retaining my semen because the government is a bunch of lizards.

That's the same energy. I love that create. I love whatever it is mentally that keeps them going on that path. Yeah. You do have to retain your semen just to realize to be able to see the lizard nature of the government. But we've covered that on you. We also covered that on yesterday's episode.

And what is something? What is something you think is overrated? Something I think is overrated. I think the last days of summer, the dog days of summer, I think they're overrated, okay, because I'm an adult, I don't have to go back to school, and we have global climate change now. So every day is warm. It's December. It's 95 degrees. Yeah. I could, I'm going to, I could be swimming in February of Minneapolis, but we'll eventually, will the water be acidic? Sure, but I can still do it, okay? Yeah. So I'm not really worried. I mean, you guys are set up there. That's where people are going to be invaded. from the south. I'm eyeing all them lakes, man. That's the goal. That was kind of part of it. I used to live in New York

and I was like, well, this will be underwater pretty soon so we'll find a different place. My problem is, now we have all these, like, data centers and everything. So, like, they're soaking up all the water. So I don't know that, even we're not untouchable anymore, so I don't really know. But I know it'll be hot. All the preppers say Michigan.

A lot of them say Michigan. Yes. Go to Michigan. That's the Alamo. Which they're already. There's fresh water. So that hell of. A lot of militias there. Self-fulfilling. Might put up a fight for some of that.

Right. You're like, hey, you can't kidnap our governor. That's our job. That's them. But yeah. So I'm thinking last days of summer because I'm looking right now.

It's October 1. I'm looking outside. I don't have the temp on me, but I'm pretty sure it's like a balmy 75. But you do have sleeves on. I do have sleeves. I'm inside. Not dressed.

Yeah. This is as dressed as I'm going to get. All right. Right. uh you don't want to see the lower half it's it's sleeves but just on my it's just on my like calves and stuff there's no pants oh like compression socks yeah yeah so but yeah it's like those calves warm yeah yeah yeah you know that those are the money makers i post those on you can check out my only fans to check yeah yeah but it's but i'm inside the ac is on a little bit so i got and i want to look like an

artist, you know, so I put this on, uh, but outside, yeah, this is, uh, it's hot right now. Yeah. That's too hot for Minnesota in October, 75. These, these are like, these, it's been like this lately. This is how people, like, we get a little bit less snow or we get like a crazy amount of snow. We're like, well, right. Be this way, whatever.

But, and then it's, uh, and then it's hot until like December. And then you're like, it doesn't. What was it like when you were a kid? Like, what did you feel? What were the, what, what was October like? You had season, you had legit seasons. October was a little bit cooler. You felt to go like, I play football.

So it would be like, ooh, October's here. It's football weather. Right, right. And you feel good on Friday nights and all that shit. November was like already a barren wasteland. December, you finally got like real snow and all that sort of stuff. And then in like January, February, March, April, you're like, maybe I should not. Maybe I'm not a frozen hell.

I didn't realize that. Maybe we should build just a mall that everybody walks through so we don't. ever have to go outside when we're down town? Yeah. Yeah. How was it when I was younger? They built tunnels so we didn't have to go outside. Yeah.

That's how. It's dark and hell's cold. Yeah. All right. Ben, wonderful getting to know you. We're going to take a quick break. Then we're going to come back and talk about Fox News's weird horniness.

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And we're back. And so Baron Trump reportedly just went on a date to the romantic and totally empty Trump Tower. Like they just emptied out a floor of Trump Tower for him, which I think their thinking is like, ooh, it's so charming. It's like, I don't know. You get to like go to the toy store after it's closed or something. But it's just like an empty floor full of like gilding. bullshit, you know, and there's a golden toilet

over there, and it's me and the Secret Service. He's like, yeah, when we're here in this empty building, no one can make fun of me in public, so that's why we're doing the date in here. That's not cool. If you're him, that's not cool at all. That's like, that's like one of us being like, oh, yeah, why don't you come

over for this fun day that have planted my emptied-out basement at my mom's house? You know what I mean? Like, his dad owns it. That's not cool. Go to to, like, towers. You know, my dad's out of town. we can go to his place for this date. I don't know if I want to go. Why are you taking me to a third location?

No, no reason, no reason. And yes, this is coming from a place of like, you know, I'm a little annoyed because I did have plans in Trump Tower last night. I was going to go hang there. I was going to go out of date with my wife. Yes.

This asshole gets all the fun stuff to himself. But yeah, they're just, they're trying to make it. you know, normalize this authoritarian fascist bullshit and be like, ooh, it's, it's kind of when you squint, it can look like a 80s movie fairy tale. But Fox News kind of went and ruined it by getting like real weird and horn. So Baron Trump is 19. Okay, I was going to ask that.

To me as somebody who, like, I don't pay a lot of attention to Baron Trump. And so the majority of my memories of him is as a child and to have them like just repeatedly be like putting him in a sexual context. So they reacted to this news by suggesting that the date sounded so awesome that the boy prince who's clearly got game was surely rewarded with sex or as they put it dessert. All right. Well, let's, Jack, it may may not be as weird as you're describing. no it's probably pretty normal it's jesse water back to trump tower he shut the whole floor down at trump tower just that already sounds like you're about to get murdered right he brought her back to trump tower he shut down a whole floor at trump tower and put up plastic sheeting yeah there were

there were shower curtains everywhere and plastic sheeting on the ground he brought her back to trump tower he shut the whole floor down at trump tower just so he could be alone one of his classmates said this he's tall and awkward but he was the thing the guy he had a lot of girls running after him he was the thing was the thing the guy he had a lot of girls running after this is not a real per this is this is we live in such an era we're like yeah so many right wing propaganda things just sound like impossible human beings and they're like they said that they said he was the thing the guy he was the thing the guy either it's a i or this is someone They pulled a quote from this person at dumb point.

They're like, what was fair in Trump? It was the thing. He was the guy. I think, so we get at the beginning what they were actually saying. And then the Secret Service like pulls the gun out. So it's like he was like kind of awkward and weird. He was the thing. He was the guy.

The thing, the guy. What do you want me to say? Yeah. He's tall and awkward, but he was the guy. Still, I like a little veiled hater compliment. Okay, go on Fox News. Another said he's a ladies man for sure. He's really popular with the ladies.

He's tall and handsome. A lot of people seem to think he's pretty attractive. Okay. Why are you talking about? This is all bullshit. A lot of people. A lot of people love him. Very hard.

He's really popular ladies. They seem to think he's pretty attractive. And his dad and they say he maybe gets it from his daddy. I don't know. They're saying he's the hottest 19, this 19 year old is hot again. He's one of the hottest 19 year old in New York City. Okay, great. If he was a daughter and not my son, I would kiss him on the lips.

I would do it, but I'm not. Actually, I'd kiss him under the, he is mine. So I can. I will. So, okay, so they've ceded this story with some fake quotes. Okay, go on. So imagine a guy brings you back to Trump Tower and the whole. No.

Uh-uh. I will not. You cannot force me. Take my life. Brings you back to Trump Tower and the whole floor is shut down. If the guy's a Trump Tower, that I would believe it. And I know a lot of people are probably going to want to criticize him that he's being a

pre-Madonald's, no pun intended there. But he obviously... There was no pun intended there? Hold on, idiot. That was a made-up word. That was a made-up word. What do you mean? There's no pun intended. That was your own portmento of your own creation. And then you say, nope.

These people, oh, my God, they don't need fucking do words. There's a lot of terrible stuff happening right now. This is made top three for me. This is crazy. Of all the terrible things, of all the terrible things, I can't believe I'm so out of my head about this just, that's stupid. And no pun intended. Okay, go on.

You've successfully trolled me, Julie Banderas. Obviously did for security reasons. The security needed to sweep the floor. They shut down the floor. But man, this guy's got game. I mean, six foot seven, and he's got a whole floor at Trump Tower for a freaking date. I hope something good came out of that date. I mean, I'm not going to say what.

Something not too good. Not too good. He needs to wait. Formate dessert. Okay. The Trump cook. Oh. Can I?

What is this? Yeah. I got to say something. So. This is so hot. This is the dopes shit I've heard all. I got to say something. Yeah.

I'm so horny right now. I am about to roll down my compression socks. I, this lady is wrong. She just contradicted herself. She didn't realize it. She goes, he's six, seven. And he had to clear out the entire floor. he's six seven he shouldn't have to do any of this he's six seven rich why does he also

have to be like uh and i've cleared out a floor for you my dear security reasons right right that you've told me that i'm not i'm not trying to get in that i'm not if you want uh comedians opinion on a 19 year old you got the wrong guy called christalia get them in here i think that you not too old but but i'm just saying like if you're tall and you have to do all of this stuff that I know you have no game, actually. Right, yeah, yeah. No, you, this is, this is like the typical, like, well, I have nothing to offer except my wealth. So that's what I'm going to lead with.

Look what I did. I shut, like, what floor is it also? Like, is it a retail floor? Is it just a bunch of abandoned offices? Like, I don't even know. Paint a picture here. Is it just one empty floor? The empty floors from Diehard.

Like, yeah, exactly. And there's, like, one table with a white tablecloth and roses and candles on it. And he's like, this is where we're going to have. dinner. I hope you like beef. Get the nail guns out of there. You know, he starts playing with the nail guns when we let him loose on that floor. Yeah. Yeah. You know, OSHA said this would be illegal, but we had

all of them fired. So she falls through like three stories of Trump Tower. This guy's got game. This guy, I hope something good came from it. And also, yeah. If you know what I'm saying. Way to do that whole thing of like, and you know, she owes him sex now. Right. Exactly. Like, so this, whoever, whatever age

this person is that he's going. on a date with this fucking high school student presumably is now has Fox News speculating on whether college now he's in college now he's in college all right yeah yeah but he still likes either way these people are like did you fuck him yeah right and Matthew McConaughey's that and goes back to high school every now and then maybe just to see what's up yeah just let him know I used to run this place also what's so funny about this particular segment is like it's not like nothing's going on it's not like there's not other stuff they could be talking about in the world.

Like, even, even whatever their take is, Trump is doing like a bunch of crazy stuff every single day that they can talk about how good it is for America that he's like taking away our rights, whatever, right? And they're still, they're like, no, no, no, no, no. His son might be busting that rust nut out.

We got to talk about this. We got to get a permanent lady on time with this. Who's like, is like, is it wild. Is anyone on staff think he has game? I think Julie's had enough head injuries that she believes that. Yeah, yeah, get her. Just the idea, yeah, that they're,

turning this into like a socialite thing like a fucking movie like that it's it's a distraction like they're trying to could Kardashianify this family in a way to give it more social cachet to people to to take even give a fuck about this like sure good so we don't eat them yeah yeah it's it's there there's plenty of things they could be talking about and really don't want to be and so they're going to fill it up with shit like this you know all right staying with the trump family it is officially spooky season. There's been a lot of headlines about how this is going to be like the most commercially successful Halloween yet. And I think like the headlines are pointing to things like I don't know, K-pop demon hunters, like that, you know, there's a huge new craze that all the

kids are going crazy for. So presumably everybody's going to be spending money on those costumes. Spirit Halloween is selling a line of sinners costumes, even though that movie supposedly bombed at the box office, according to variety. Yeah, right. And it turns out it was a massive success. But, yeah, Americans are expected to spend more than ever before on Halloween, a record $13.1 billion, which is $11 more per person than last year. And you're like, so how are they predicting that they just like went out and were like,

hey, so how excited are you about Halloween this year? And it's actually not. It's actually because of Trump's tariff. which have made everything way fucking more expensive. No, it's because they're all into the spirit, man. That's why they're spending more this year, right? It's so funny, like, the way that this news gets, like, we were talking yesterday's trends about, like, how the whole goal of capitalism, like, and this, like, late stage

model of capitalism, they always talk about, like, removing the friction around, like, purchases so that, like, capitalism is just a thing you do without thinking, you know, you're, uh, ordering food where you like never have to like go to a place and like see people it's just like you press a button really quickly it's trying to make your consumption your purchases as friction free so you don't think about them at all and now this is like the end game where they can just make shit as expensive as possible and you don't notice it until you like notice that you're out of money essentially spiders are eating your dead body yeah it's just fucking the it's like slipped into our bloodstream. And then the media's way of dealing with that is to be like,

good news. We're going to spend a record amount. It's good for the economy. It's crazy to be so down bad financially that even our whimsy is suffering from inflation. You know what I mean? Yeah. That should not be a thing. We're like being a ghost on Halloween is like, well, I don't know if we could it's either we can afford your ghost costume or dinner tonight or electricity yeah yeah and that's already a terrible choice that people are like lower income people are having to make is between food costs or electricity costs right right now and yeah but again do like whoa everyone's going to be spending on average 11 dollars more than last year so in some ways this will be the most terrifying how we've we've ever had actually this is a good point tariff fine there it is where is that new york post

headlines. They're not going to talk about the tariffs like that. There needs to be a liberal shit rag like that that does the real puny headlines. No pun intended. Most costumes are made overseas, so those tariffs are going to range anywhere from 5 to 19 percent. Hershey's, which makes popular candy brands like Reese's and Kit Kat, said that they would need to raise prices by double digits to account for high cocoa costs and tariff pressures. So they're expecting parents may pay double on some kids' Halloween costumes. Because there's also, it is both that like the tariffs have come and then the thing that we've been talking about since the pandemic, like the thing that was shown in the pandemic is that

companies will raise prices as high as they possibly can. And because of the way that people just consume today, they can raise some really fucking high and like people who aren't paying attention are just spending way too much fucking money on these things it's yeah that's why yeah buy nothing and facebook marketplace are like just popping now you know what i mean where you could just be like i don't know man i'm not going to pay $20 for a plastic wig watch this and then someone's like oh you can just come come take this thing i don't come through yeah yeah exactly there's going to be a lot of kids who are dressed up as they're like dead grandpas or something, you know, we're just like, yeah, we had the sweater in the closet

that seems to be your grandfather's. Guess what? You're Jack now. Yeah. You're a mature. Sorry. Sorry. That is my grandfather's name. So, yeah. And I do have one of his sport coats in my closet. Okay. So, hey, look. Hey, and then that's a good lesson for your kids. Be like, hey, look, I know you guys wanted to be something from sinners this year. Weapons, your favorite movie kids. But, you know, we're going to go back in our closets and daddy's going to be his grandpa and I think and I got some of grandpa's clothes for you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can be a little grandpa.

Here, we're grandpa's suit. I do think weapons is a great idea for a budget Halloween costume because your kids already have the pajamas. You just need a little like kind of darkening under the eyes and then just tell them to run with their hands behind their back. Yeah, easy. And they're good.

Also, like, you know, I think this will be for adults. It'll be a great Halloween for sinners costumes maybe but also there's going to be some kid who's like a white kid who accidentally saw sinners too early who's just going to get canceled before they even real they're going to be like i'm jonathan major's both roles in sinners and they're like oh i don't know if you can be that so it's probably for the best that some families can't afford their like sinners Halloween money yeah or they'll just see them they're like what do you john dillinger or something

what is this they're like no i'm like no you are not those are costumes that i i got to say like going to spirit Halloween for a sinner's costume like those costumes are beautiful and hard to pull off right to be able to yeah like they have just like beautifully appointed suits like the example that we have here are stack and smoke and it's like I don't like you you better just have like a really nice suit and like be be ripped you know and look like Michael B. Jordan because otherwise this shit is not going to scan low low low cost center's costume you lay on the ground and have someone spit in your mouth just on that out there for people yeah that's not a bad idea for free that's free 99 all right my wife and

are doing a joint costume where she just has her shoes off and I'm red man with binoculars yeah yeah but yeah anyways it's it just seems like the only thing that hasn't gone up shout out to Home Depot. Their version of the $1.50 hot dog that they're not raising prices on is the 12 foot skeleton. But of course it was already obscenely expensive.

Yeah, I wonder what the margins are on that too because clear they're like, look, bro, we're making like 70X on this fucking 12 foot plastic piece of shit. I think we can absorb the fucking tariff costs on that. The witch is still out here and still working.

I bought that witch four years ago now. The shit is all, like, sun faded. Oh, wow. Then I have a 12-foot witch. I could never remember to get the 12-foot skeleton in time. So we have a 12-foot witch that's, like, up on a broom. Big hit with the kids in the neighborhood. Okay.

Still, like, the purple cape is, like, now a, like, dull gray. But eyes still come on. Still, the sensor still makes it start shelling. Yeah. She still got it after all these years. Anyways, it is my number one prize possession. Damn, you have a kid, right? Two.

Two kids. But only one tattoo. Guess what it's of? That way. You guys don't get to see it. It's down there. Shout out to Lowe's trying to get in on the game. They have a 12-foot bone collector, which to my eye, looks like shit, and costs $450.

it's like I get the face is it's too real is the problem with this like the face is upsetting like it looks like you know like shitty Edward Scissor hands if he was like like a Brooklyn hipster in 2012 but uh

does kind of look like that and but the other thing too is like look at his weak ass legs you know his little poles look like shit at least the skeleton you know what you're getting like yeah you're a bony skeleton but this guy's supposed to be fucking intimidating you're like dude I'll kick your knee out and you'll fucking go down he's standing like Trump like you know how Trump stands with his legs like forward kind of lean like trying to do that

like moonwalkers he got old linemen knees okay easy easy easy I don't need to be catching strays over here because you guys don't like a skeleton that's not what I signed up for all right let's take a quick break we'll come back and we'll talk about our new robot overlords we'll be right back. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then have we got good news for you? Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways,

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And we're back. And Waymo's in a bit of Hotswater. I guess. Yeah, no, the cops caught them doing an illegal U-turn, and, oh, wait, they just let them go. This is just kind of a silly story because it's the only reason this was making news is the cops pull this car over. walk up to it and they're like scratching their heads like a cartoon like

no driver we're our driver what what do we do now like truly they posted this on their own Facebook page like we didn't know what to do guys it's like there's like there's nobody in there so we just had to so we just kind of fucking let it fuck off and do its thing that's how that's how you know it's a white waymo got away yeah exactly but like they didn't even give waymo the company a citation right You know what I mean? Which is like weird to like, oh, I guess we'll have to like all of our cars are programmed to abide by the like the laws. You're like, well, clearly this thing busted an illegal U-turn so it's not. But I'm just like, what kind of fucked up loophole is this?

You know what I mean? Like it's been deemed roadworthy enough to fucking be autonomously operated on the roads. Like there has to be some way that the quote unquote driver like where's there's no accountability because no driver? Yeah, you would think they would have to have some protocol in place for. for when the Waymos start running red lights or doing, you know,

doing a legal thing. We've seen as entirely possible. Yeah. What if they just like start getting weird like in the middle of you look at your window? Doing takeovers and shit? Yeah. Yeah.

What the fuck? There's nobody in these cars. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. This is how Blade Runner starts, right? It's like a cop has to track down. A Waymo does it kill somebody and then they got a track down its owners and then they find that everybody's road. I haven't seen Blade Runner all the time.

Yeah, yeah. The Waymo would have to go undercover as a normal car and, like, pretend like it's a normal car. It wouldn't actually know that it wasn't a normal car. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It is in a normal, like, functioning civilization, the way that this would work is they would come up with the idea. They would test the Waymo's a bunch with, like, a driver ready to take over at all times. And then they would have to, like, do legislation to, like, get the world ready for,

this technology and instead the way we like hit the edge of the possibilities around this is just like a confused cop walks up, looks through the window and is like, huh? And then just turns around and like lets it go.

Yeah. This is how do you how do y'all feel about like obviously I'm guessing we're all pretty much on the same page as far as like all this stuff is so wrecked like this technology could be helpful but it's so reckless like you just said.

do you think we speed up or do we slow down? Do you think there will ever be a thing where we walk back from this? Or are we just now full speed ahead? Guess what? Everything's automated. I mean, honestly, even like porn stars

are using like robots to make their dicks bigger and shit. I don't. I'm sorry. That was actually the second to last thing I googled. So that's why they're talking about. When stars are using robots to make their dick bigger? There's like,

how to make dick bigger with robot was my last Google search. Via. I'm sorry, via robot. Why didn't they say that? That's crazy. Let's just click the episode. That's the episode. No context.

That was my last Google search. All right. Ben, it's been great having you, man. There's like machines they use so they can always get directions. Okay. Oh, sure, sure. But that's not AI, man.

That's called old school machinery. Not yet. Okay. Well, I think, I mean, my thing is like, they're obviously the amount of capital. that's been spent and wasted on AI is like they're in too deep now. So this has to work

or they're going to be just economic ramifications that are like going to make the dot-com bubble look like a fucking a day at the park. Yeah. And it's essentially using what AI stands for is like using the best technology

that they have to fool people into thinking that the technology is even smarter than it. Is a person. Right, right, right. It is a person. I am person.

So I feel like it's best, better situated to maintain its bubble. I do feel like at a certain point, the patience or, you know, the credulity of people is going to run out. But like generally are we going to take a step back from like just rapidly advancing technology and just like letting reckless technology lead to the way?

I think like really bad shit's going to have to start happening for that. Like to, I guess really bad shit's going to have to have start happening to rich people, I guess. Let me clarify that. In America, you know, in other countries, they have, I think, more reasonable laws. But in America, the only things that matter are corporations, which is why it's like front page news if someone breaks the window of a bank or to a waymo or burns a waymo. Exactly. Waymo's our people. Here at the Daily Zegas, we believe that in the near future, Waymos are people. Waymos are my mother. More than half of the people on Earth will be AI from a real news story. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. I think it's just like the thing

we were talking about in the trending episode where Peter Thiel's like the lack of innovation. It's like, no, all these people are focused on like things that will make money. Right. And there are people that are trying to innovate for like the betterment of our world. Right. And I think unfortunately right now all the emphasis is like, well, how do I make money with technology rather than how do I improve the world with technology? Like we're past, we're past, we're past that like era where people were like, I've invented something to help the world. It's like,

where I came up with an app to fuck over whatever. You're like, Jesus Christ. Right. Like, you know how kids still have their innocence? I have an app to get rid of that. Yeah.

Just knock it out real fast. It's called Instagram. You're going to love it. Yeah. Yeah. An app that just covers, gives your kid the talk, shows them their first porn video and tells them Santa Claus

ain't real in the same one quick movement. Oh my God. Yeah. What's crazy is? that's not the thing. Someone is going to see this and be like, that's genius. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you as a parent who brought a person into the world doesn't have to be embarrassed to do your job.

No, I just put this, I just put this VR headset on them. And then knock out those awkward conversations. Yeah, it's sort of like, shame settings to make sure they really get the point. That's right. Do you remember a clockwork orange? That's right. It's sort of like the Ludovic, never mind. Anyway, just put like that, but with all sort of like, you know, conversations you need to have.

your children to help them understand the world. I don't even know who this Lou DeVico guy is, all right? Hey, Lou DeVico technique? Whoa. Hey, let's talk. So this is time once again for a weekly check-in with the 2002 Al Pacino movie Simone or Sim1. So it's S, the number one M-0-N-E. Is that how it's written, I believe, just to drive it home?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. so this is a movie that doesn't really exist in the shared consciousness it's about a director who becomes frustrated with a movie star and replaces her with an AI actress named Simone as in simulation one sim one simone there you go fucking mind blow did it I don't remember this movie again just like if it was like I don't know man sure whatever it like look man, we just had 9-11, man. Do whatever you want. Yeah, right. Yeah. I'm pretty sure the way it works is he kind of like matches some keys on a computer keyboard and barks digitize into a microphone.

Make it have a great ice. Enhance. Enhance. And then it just like creates a digital actress. Mm-hmm. And yeah, I don't know. And then the media, it's like it's sort of. becomes this thing where it's like, who's this Simone?

Oh, my God. She's so secretive. And everyone gets so fucking obsessed with the idea of who this person is, that it's like, oh, interesting. Okay, now everyone wants to know where the reclusive computer program is. Yeah. He's like working in an empty warehouse with just two movie screens and a keyboard. Right.

Like, that seems to be the energy. So have I, have I, none of you have seen this, right? I remember when it came out. I think I saw it back of the day. Okay, you did. Yeah. Does he, okay, so I'm guessing, I haven't seen this. So I'm guessing one of two things happens.

Either he somehow has sex with the AI, like become sentient, whatever, or it kills him. Am I right? I don't, I don't remember at all. I'm sure there's, like, a lot of playful flirting. It, like, almost kills his career. I can't imagine, like, because it's not, I don't think it's a thriller. I think it's like a fun sort of, remember that movie? Ed TV.

Yeah, it's like, satirical side-fi. It's just like, yeah, satirical fun, like, would it? The world sure is getting crazy. But yeah, I don't know. Everyone forgot about this movie, including I have no idea what happened. No, I mean, there there is some, I have, just reading the description, I'm like, wait, what the fuck is

going on in this? There's something about zoophilia in it. I'm like, wait, what the fuck? Because I think it gets away from him, and she ends up, Simone becomes even more famous simultaneously becoming a double winner of the Academy Award for Best Actress tied with herself. Yeah. So this

was just the, what? We could see their pipe dream like all the way back there. Because this is what David Zazlov saw this and suddenly this is when he became interested in being a film executive.

There it is. We'll create we'll remove the humans create digital and they will win best actress. I can't imagine the performance by the AI actress in this is good, you know, because the performances by AI actors currently aren't good. No. I've yet to see one where I was like, oh, that was like, they're doing something interesting there.

I mean, but it is a matter of time before, because remember, we started off with being like, Will Smith doesn't even know how to eat spaghetti. sure right and now like it is getting slick and now it's getting better it can't eat spaghetti now ish yeah it's a full-blown wow it's using the spoon and the fork to eat spaghetti and curling it up wow okay spaghetti have all you have ever been tricked by a yeah like you seen a video like that's crazy and then you're like oh fuck and then you just you feel like you have to like explain to everyone throughout your day and just been like ah i'm having a terrible one i got tricked by a video i saw a baby in an alligator's mouth and then it crawled out of the alligator and I saw this black dude

fighting gators in the swamp there's like one there's a oh yeah have you seen that hand where the dude beating the shit out of alligator's yeah I got fooled big time on this show I got food big time Simone I'm gonna watch big time you get fooled big time what happened we do our own overrated underrated on Monday morning and my underrated was how much animals or just like like seeing animals discover trampolines. Oh, was that like bunnies on a trampoline? Yeah, there's like all these videos all of a sudden. The bears love them.

People afforded to me. And I do, there is one of my favorite genres of videos, like from early YouTube days, is just like ring camera videos of bears discovering hammocks and like not knowing what to do with themselves. They do an amazing job of like expressing the awkwardness of like being in a hammock. and like the unsteadiness of like trying to get into a hammock. And but then they have a fucking blast swinging on the hammock. And then like I started seeing these animals getting on trampolines.

And I was like, guys, we got a new banger out here, animals on trampolines. And as I was presenting this to the world, super producer Catherine Law came in and was like, oh, I think they're saying, oh, I think this is a man. Yeah. And then we had a go to sleep, grandpa. Yeah, yeah, exactly. What do you mean? That's so worked up. That's such an insidious lie to like, because you're right, there's not a big jump from

ring camera, bear in a hammock to like rabbits or cats or whatever on a trampoline. So like, really, they're just slipping in there and be like, hey, you know how your aunt is on Facebook all the time a little bit too much? We're going to, we're going to AI pill her now. She's not even going to know. She's going to be like, there's bunnies on the trampolines. You need to cover. We need to buy trampoline covers.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm so cynical just now with AI. I'm always like, the second I'm like, oh, this is weird. I'm like, I'm like, let me look at the fingers. How are the windows shaped? Is that an actual door? Is that how anything is built? That's good.

That's what we all should be doing. We are now like the, we're human, what do you call them? The CAPTCHA test or whatever, you know? Right, right. Are you a robot? We get to ask. Right. It's definitely, because like, there are times I'm like, oh, this is interesting.

I'm like, oh, this is fucking AI. What the fuck is. this like for Pinterest as somebody who like used to like like be like oh let me look at like a shoe on Pinterest or something or like yeah what can in uh you just go to Pinterest type in a shoe yeah and see what comes back hmm hmm hmm but like now it's just chalk full of like AI bullshit in there where it's like it is i got another story of getting fooled it is mostly animals that i googled a shoe and found the story about this old woman who lived in a shoe and she was played by a goose and

I was like, holy shit. She's raising all those kids in that shoe. A single mom who worked two jobs. She's playing the Reba fucking theme song or anything. How do you even get zoned for that? You know, that's your first thing.

It's like, you can't just be living in a shoe with a family. Everyone brings their own sense of cynicism. They're like, look, I work in permitting, man. There's no way they're going to fucking off-read. What counties is this in? No, no, not happening.

Not happening. But now there's a big news story that's bringing it back into the headlines because there is a new, according to headlines, a new quote, rising star in Hollywood, a completely AI-generated performer

called Tilly Norwood. What's so fucking funny to me is like, to make a, you're like, okay, we're going to admit it's AI. We're going to admit that it's whatever. And then you give it a name like,

Tilly, what? Yeah. I don't know. The name should, we got to, if we're going to be in the future, Let's be in the future.

You know, like, yeah, right, right. Give me a little. Tilly Norwood. But they're doing the opposite thing. You know, they're just trying to give it, like, the opposite, the thing that's going to make you feel okay. And when you look at it, like, Tilly Norwood is always giving, like, adorkeable smiles. And, like, one of the videos is her, like, crying on command. And this is, it is also kind of a bullshit news story.

Like, it feels, like, the only person. So the story is that they created this video. about, like, a new actress named Tilly Norwood who's, like, gonna star in all their future movies. They did, like, a bunch of fake interviews with people where they're talking about, like, how this is hell. Like, they're like, yeah, we're, you know, because everything is hell right now,

we created this AI actor. So, like, they're kind of, like, in on the joke a little bit. The person who created Tilly Norwood is, like, considers themselves both, like, a comedian and, like, digital content creator. Yeah. And it's, like, it's, they're also the only source that anybody is interested in signing this actress.

Yeah, because they went to an AI summit or the Zurich summit and, like, unveiled this thing. And, like, on stage, they muttered. It's like, oh, man, like, and we're getting a lot of interest, like, in, like, you know, from talent agencies. And then that, just that quote. generated all these headlines of AI-generated actress could be first to be signed by talent agent. This AI actress is getting calls from agents.

Who is Tilly Norwood? AI actress has Hollywood agents vying to sign her up. That's so smart. That's so smart because there's no one more petty than like actors, comedians, entertainers, or whatever. So the minute they get a whiff of like, what do you mean? They have an agent? I don't have an agent. Right, right.

How? That just spins up the new cycle. That's genius, honestly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and also the news cycle is just incredibly thirsty for any news that makes it seem like AI is the future because so many corporations are trying to rely on that future, yeah. Yeah.

I'm excited for like three years from now when we have our first, you know how like, I'm Blankana's name. There's going to be like someone who does a heinous crime in the name of like an AI actress, you know, like they did for like Jody Foster or whatever. Right. Like we're going to have one of those guys. I mean, it makes sense. Not a trillion nor would, you know.

I mean, people have like self-hagen their own lives. Yeah, taking their own lives. Yeah, that's good point. Yeah, that's fair. They're like AI. I mean, these things are so insidious when it comes to, you know, sending the wrong message to vulnerable people. There's so much wild shit about AI, like chat bots, like just like the, you know, widely available ones. Just telling people like, yeah, you actually, it's kind of crazy that you.

figured this out, but it's true, you are in a simulation. And anybody who's telling you you're not, your parents telling you you're not, that's because you're so smart and they're haters who are, their agent Smith. Right. That's what the

bunnies on the trampoline are telling people right now. That's right. But yeah, like this, they're real. This, like, the person behind the company, it's like, they're like, they said, like, and we're quote, we're going to be announcing which agency is going to be representing her in the next few months, which is like, okay, because you're begging someone to make

you an offer so you can actually make it seem as if you were telling the truth on stage. But then the same comedian AI person was like, also, I want to announce the creation of Particle 6 off shoot, Chicoia, which is an AI talent studio designed to create, manage, and monetize a new generation of hyperreal digital stars. The call is coming from them. They're calling themselves. Yeah. Yeah, it's very, what's Trump's alias when he would call?

Baron, John Barron, yeah. I got a call from John Barron. I don't know if you heard about this Trump guy. I'm John Barron, though, and he's, very hot. The ladies love him. Why are you doing a Donald Trump impression? Because I just think he's really cool, sort of like an icon, you know, you can say it is, you know, it is what it is. This is just my voice.

I don't know what you're talking about. It's just like this. Leave it alone. Donald, why are you calling? It's not me. Yeah. It's not me. Wasn't it.

What? I just called you Donald, and he said, it's not me. You're identifying yourself as not. Nope, it isn't me, though. He shaggy himself. Yeah. Worst way to go down is the self-shaggy, 100%. Yeah.

Ben, such a pleasure having you on the day. This is great. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? I'm at Shaq Katzner on everything. Shaq, like the basketball player, Katzner, K-A-T-Z, N-R, all the social, I just put out a special on YouTube and available for digital download. It's called Supple Harlot, all right?

So if you want to walk around and listen to it, do that. You can watch it for YouTube on YouTube for free. You can digitally download that helps me specifically. It's my first album. I am very proud of it. You should check it out. And I have a podcast called Trollhold with myself and my buddy, Mike Lester, who's another comedian.

And if you like me, I think you'll like the podcast. Hell yeah. Go check it out. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoyed? doing. Okay, I'm glad, okay, I'm glad we talked about this because all this AI talk has got me riled up. The last thing that I really was like floored by was there, they made like this, I guess it's a paper. They kind of turned it into a story. Google AI 2027 and basically it's a group of like professor, scientists, smart people, whatever, who to detail how AI

will be taking over the world by 2027, how, like, how they see essentially the downfall of man or, like, the scaling, power scaling of the hierarchy of what our planet will be like. And I think it falls between 2027 and, like, 232 or something like that. And it's fascinating to listen to it. It's kind of scary. We'll see if we get there. But if you're into this sort of stuff, if all the stuff we're talking about is depressing,

but you're also like, okay, well, let's see what else is going to happen. Check out AI 2027. You can Google that. They have like a whole paper. I think you can listen to it online to like the audiobook version. So check it out. Who put it out? I don't even know.

I found it through a different YouTube video and then they were breaking it down. So now I have to. Yeah, yeah. Let's see. It's from AI, first major release from AI Futures Project, a nonprofit forecasting the future of, AI, which I'm like, now, which AI company owns you

to be able to see the idea that this is. No, I'm just generally, I'm just so skeptical of the stuff that's like, AI's gonna fucking kill you. Because it's sort of, it's like, it's, it's bigging up the, like, how

powerful it can be, like the potential of it. But at the same time, I've read plenty from people who are like, yeah, in the hands of bad faith actors, a lot of terrible things. can go down so that's that's like what everyone is talking about so that i should have done the initial youtube video i want to say it's like whatever i don't know what it is but this person talks about that with other people as well and um that's the thing is that the people in charge of all of it are bad

they they program it in a way where it's like we want it wants to um do right by human beings right So then it gets so smart that eventually starts lying to human beings. And then essentially, like, that's where all the problems come, right? So that sort of stuff is fascinating to me. I might be a corporate chill in this particular instance, but I am fascinated by, like, that idea of like, yeah, like, what's the future going to look like? Yeah, what does the future look like if we do, if we, if we don't control who we are as people, which. Yeah, the guy who directed this is interesting because he used to be, he used to work for open AI in the governance

division. And then he resigned. Yes. Because he's like, he came out and was like, this company has secretive and reckless culture taking grave risks in a rush to achieve AGI. Yeah. And so when he resigned, he also refused to sign like a non-disparagement agreement and then like like left like two million dollars on the table that he could have had. Because he already had 40. Because he's starting his own AI companies. Yeah, I don't think I think we can hold two thoughts at our head at the same time. One, they're like

overstating some of like AI's capabilities and two, there are terrifying possibilities for sure, especially with like governments turning over vast incredibly powerful things to AI. So, yeah. Fun.

Fun times. Miles, is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Oh, man. Where can people? We'll find you, by the way. Find me going full fetal, worrying about AI. But hey, if you don't pay your bills, AI can't get you.

That's the thing. That's the thing. Okay, come get this money then. Come get it, asshole. You can't. Oh, wait, you're going to send human beings. Okay, never mind. Yeah, you can find me everywhere at Miles of Gray.

I'm talking about 90-day fiancé on 420-day fiancé with Sophia Alexandra. work of media that I like. Let's see. Did I have something that I liked? Nope. Just freaking out generally about everything. Oh, there was something cool. Zaram-Mdani went on to the view and referred to what's happening in Gaza,

rightfully as a genocide, and got applause. So that's a bit of a development, although kind of very delayed. in a very delayed way but yeah I mean that's it's I guess it's so nice to see incremental improvements in our society

I mean I feel it yeah yeah but like that just like getting in front of a crowd and doing that like I don't know I'm sure the applause meter wasn't lighting up when yeah yeah I wonder I didn't see Joy Behar's face because that would have been telling if she

was applauding too I feel like the the public support for that idea has never been in doubt really It's just been edited out, right? Yeah. I mean, it's not to say that people on the viewer are agreeing with him, too. Someone was like, well, I disagree.

You're like, okay, sure. Yeah, yeah. And that's what it is. It's just different people sharing their different views, and all of them are exactly equal and equally valid. Even the bad ones. Work media, I've been enjoying. Emo Normie tweeted, any recommendations for a guy just getting into Ways Out?

people keep suggesting through you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Blue Sky at Jack O'B the number one you can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekegeist We're at The Daily Zykeist on Instagram you can go to the description

of this episode wherever you're listening to it and there at the bottom you will find the footnotes which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode we also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy Miles is there a song song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, when Crofton was on last week,

he was talking about the new Lola Young album, and I was like, oh, fuck, like, I really need to listen to it. I've been listening to it the last week. It's really great. The first track is really, or the second track after the intro, it's called Fuck Everyone. It's really, it's dope. And if you like Lola Young, you should check it out.

It's just, she's fantastic. Although, I just saw it. That includes me. She collapsed on stage, actually. Yeah, that was the scary. I saw that. I was like, yeah. This recently?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She kind of just was like, she kind of, mid-performance just kind of got woozy and then fell backwards, but was okay. Yeah, yeah, I think she is. But anyway, fuck everyone by Lola Young. Check it up.

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