The Daily Zeitgeist - Fox News Pro-Vaxx Now? Britney Contains MULTITUDES 7.20.21

Episode Date: July 20, 2021

In episode 954, Jack and Miles are joined by We Need to Talk About Britney's Jen Zaborowski to discuss positive covid cases at the Olympics, the Delta variant wave, Fox News jumping shit, an Israeli surveillance software being used for evil, the end of salad bars, Britney Spears, and more!FOOTNOTES: Coco Gauff Out of Olympics After Positive COVID-19 Test as Cases in Athletes’ Village Grow Kara Eaker, U.S. Women’s Alternate Olympic Gymnast, Tests Positive for COVID in Tokyo Chaos The Uncanny Delta Wave Steve Doocy: Get the COVID-19 vaccine if you have chance, it will 'save your life' Revealed: leak uncovers global abuse of cyber-surveillance weapon Why salad bars may never come back Britney Spears' Bodyguard Claims She Was Fed Antipsychotic Drugs That Would Make Her 'Go From Sane To Talking About Parallel Universes': Report LISTEN: PinkPantheress - Passion (Official Visualiser) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to the zeit. Oh, we just want this plague to be gone. Listen to the zeit. That is courtesy of Rob Cunningham. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! That's right. Winner of the gold medal in the 100-meter blunt smoking from North Hollywood at the Tokyo Vid Olympic Games, it is Hideo Noho! Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited about the Olympic Games and my other mother country. It's going to be so exciting and terrifying at the same time.

Thank you for thanking me for having you on your own podcast. It's a habit I have to really feel like I'm really something special going on. Hey, you earned it, kid. Thanks, man. Thanks, bro. It's a 100 meter blunt smoking

you're smoking a 100 meter exactly you've seen you know it sounds if anybody could do it i think i think you could you're the man for the job there's a there are some allegations that i was on performance enhancing drugs during my gold medal run and you know that can be decided but i'm sorry the event itself is smoking weed so i don't know what they want me to say well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very talented writer actor producer and the host of the we need to talk about britney podcast jen zabrowski hello hi guys hi Welcome. Where are you coming to us from? Where on God's green are you? I am coming to you straight from the home of myself in Laurel Canyon. That's where I am today. Yeah. Beautiful, beautiful. Love to see you. How's Pache doing? Are they doing OK over there?

Pache is doing great. You know, we really, they kept it going during this time and it actually feels like very European. It's an, it's an Italian restaurant in Laurel Canyon and they moved everything outside and they closed down the street and they put tables out there. And so it actually feels like you're, you know, you're up against the wall of the dry cleaners and it feels kind of European in a way. It's like you're like out on a street, but it's closed down. Which street did they close? The one that's between Laurel Canyon and that little side street that the cheaters take to go to try and beat the traffic? You know it.

You know it. I know it. I always look at that and I'm like, those guys are cheating and you're going to get stuck at the stop sign when the traffic closes. Oh, man. and you're going to get stuck at the stop sign when the traffic when somebody turns off when somebody like gets stuck behind me and then like turns off into a side street I it's a race

it's immediately a race between me and them to because they're going through the alleyways and I'm just trying to cut them off at every pass and that's stupid of me that's very dumb why your license got revoked yeah I will I will blow through a red light to make sure that they don't get in front why your license got revoked. Yeah. I will blow through a red light to make sure that

they don't get in front of me. Oh, you got a shortcut? But it feels very, so like it's a nice alfresco situation out there. I don't know why I'm asking the most specific reference about Laurel Canyon for maybe 3% of our listeners that will understand that. Well, 3% of the listeners come on down to Pache, you know, just like, and actually fun fact, the, the owner of Pache guys, we're getting into like real Pache. The guy who owns that restaurant, he lived in this house. Like when he opened the restaurant, look at that. Look at that. Wow. Yeah.

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All right. Well, Jim, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. The Olympics continue to be a problem. The Delta wave is real. We're going to ask, what are we considering an infection? Because there revealed to be a tool that authoritarians are able to use to hack journalists, activists, lawyers, basically like good guys, the good guys in the world. What are they up to? What are they up to? What are they talking about? What kind of secrets? Who's this guy? Who's this guy? We're going to say RIP to salad bars. We're going to talk about Britney. Her bodyguard came out and just dropped some more details of just her hardcore old boy existence when she was continues to be under

basically like house arrest by her dad but then there's also an interesting thing where she the ex-cop bodyguard security guy was like and then she would go all sorts of crazy and start talking parallel universes, which is actually like proponents of the multiverse hypothesis include Stephen Hawking, Neil deGrasse Tyson. But we won't hold that against it. Neil deGrasse Tyson, but we won't hold that against it. So Britney Spears maybe went extra super duper like galaxy brain and people need to come around to that. All of that, plenty more. But first, Jen, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Guys, I'm looking for an interesting floor lamp. And that truly was the last thing I searched for. It's a floor lamp I'm looking to put right beside the desk I'm sitting at right now. And I'm just looking at all kinds of lamps. I don't want just an average lamp. I'm looking

for something a little special. And you don't want the arc lamp that everyone's got these days. It's too much real estate to put an arc lamp somewhere. So much real estate. I don't want the arc lamp that everyone's got these days. It's too much, too much, too much real estate to put in. Real estate. I don't want to bump my head. I don't want to deal with it falling. You know, like I'm looking for, I'm like into,

I mean, we spend so much time at home. So now I'm really looking to, you know, judge it up. I moved, I rearranged all the furniture. Did you guys like do any of that weird stuff last year?

I, I put Christmas lights up very early. That was like the one weird thing. I was like, bring the twinklies inside. I like that. You're like, let's put a little something, you know, like let's warm up the area. Let's like, you know, remind ourselves of perhaps like a holiday. Like, you know, I like that. Your ancestors communicate to you through the Christmas lights, right? They do. From the upside down? Is that correct? Yeah, exactly. And I have all the letters set up underneath.

It's pretty cool. I mean, my partner, Her Majesty, she's a little spooked out by it, but I'm telling her there's secrets that we got to understand through there. I've been noticing a lot of yard sales in my neighborhood and our family is going through a all around.

Like we have six bags of like old baby clothes and like just toys that we don't need anymore. And then like a bunch of stuff from 10 years ago that books and stuff that we're just trying to figure out what to do with. Probably donate them. But yeah, we are. We are in the middle of a intensive purge. and stuff that we're just trying to figure out what to do with probably donate them but yeah yeah we are we are in the middle of a intensive purge yeah i love a good purge i love a good purge i love going under beds deep in drawers like i live for that live for that i'm incapable of that i just consolidate and put into a corner yeah I think it's called hoarding. Yes.

You just never know when someone's going to need, like I told you, a Mookie Blaylock rookie card. That's true. Yeah, or a Stacey Ogmon rookie card when he signed with the Atlanta Hawks. I mean, there's a lot of cards and pogs as well. I have lava tubes of those old pogs from the early 90s, those milk cap games. You don't have pogs as well. I have lava tubes of those old pogs from the early 90s,

those milk cap games. You don't have pogs, do you? Oh, if you check my mother's garage. My mother's garage is like a fucking time capsule. Bless her heart because I learned from the best in terms of not throwing shit away.

For sure. But in an organized way because my mom knows where everything is. I'd be like, where's that old promotional badge from the jean-claude van damme movie time cop that you got she's like it's over there in this box sweet yeah that i mean that rules i can i free you by telling you pogs are never coming back and would that make it easier for you to part with them or it just doesn't matter?

We'll see. I don't know, Jack. We'll see, man. We'll see. And you know what though, miles,

I feel like don't let that sway you because there is a thing like all of a sudden when you're like, okay, I'm freeing myself of this. I'm getting rid of this thing that that's the moment. Like the next day is when someone will ask you for that. For the pogs. Yes,

exactly. Hey buddy, I got 10 grand for some mint condition pogs you got any oh fuck 10 grand sorry has anyone seen my stacy augman rookie card i'm gonna be killed if they don't give terrible paper goods really when i think about it right jim what is something you think is overrated? Okay, this could be very controversial, but just hear me out. Just hear me out. Lately, I've been taking intermittent breaks from drinking alcohol. And if I do it for like five days, I'm like, I think drinking might be overrated. I think drinking might be overrated because I also like, and I don't like the idea of a mocktail, but like I put a drink that doesn't have alcohol in it in a wine or a cocktail glass. Like I do

all the like the ritual things like I like I take out like, yeah, all the barware and I like put in like good crushed ice and then I take like a flavored Pellegrino or something and like cut a lime wedge. And then, and then I'm just like cruising. And then I wake up in the morning and I'm like, I feel like right as rain. I'm ready to go. There you go. So it's maybe, so is it the ritual then it sounds like that you really like of like the preparation more than what you're doing? Yeah. having yeah just like having taking a moment and like okay like i'm enjoying myself like having a good time and it's still like when i'm like i need a drink it's like okay i need i still need a drink it just doesn't mean that like alcohol needs to be in it guys this is like if my

parents heard this conversation they would they would just be like, I never want to talk to you again. I can't believe you raised her to say this. Right. But my parents literally call their house Camp Cocktail. So. Whoa. Yeah. OK.

Oh, they have merch. They like they make merch. Yes. Yes. And listen, I know that we just met, but you are both invited to Camp Cocktail. Yeah. To Pam and Joee zabrowski's lake house to camp cocktail where is camp cocktail of course it's a lake house it's a lake house it's

in upstate new york in the adirondack mountains it's like a tiny like it's it's it's way up there and it's just uh how long has it been camp like did you grow up in this place being called camp cocktail or is this more of a latter day phenomena the energy the spirit of camp cocktail was always there even as a child but um i would say it was probably like maybe 15 years ago now that they started referring to it as that and then they went to get a sign made and they were like should it say zebrowski or should it say camp cocktail and my mom was like we can't we can't go down this like it it's gotta say it's gotta say zebrowski like what are we gonna say we can't let people know our names from what are you talking about

but it's great yeah at christmas they roll out the merch so you can get ready for summertime. Oh, my God. I love it. I love the energy of when someone's like, no, man, this is a brand now. Right. And making merch is like, that's fully, that's like a full commitment. I mean, I used to call the back house of where my mom lives, that would be like my scumbag lair in high school and college. I used to call that Club Miles, but I never had merch.

I thought it was going to be like the Blunt Bungalow or something. No, it's called Club Miles because that's, you know, like when you would get, I would get off work at my laser tag job and like, you know, I had like that spot where kids, we could get wild. They're like, yo, man, let's go to Club Miles. We're going to Club Miles. Uh-huh. Wait, Miles, you worked at a laser tag place and then you had the spot that everyone

called club miles like you yeah wow you're like you were the man you were really like you know the early odds were my time what can i say you know the best of times it was the worst of times but i focus on the best of them and yeah i would have a polo shirt that said Game Master on because that's like when you referee the laser tag games. So it'd be me and a bunch of people in black ultra zone polos, you know, just imbibing.

And you were hardcore, right? Like you were a very expressive and strict ref, is that correct? You know, I don't like fucking around when I say the rules, you follow them because there was a thing you could carry around it's called the terminator and it was like this tv remote that you could just fuck somebody's game up from long distance you'd be like hey stop running oh wow you're like game master it doesn't work i'm like maybe your eyes don't work bro because i said no running and it's, it's flashing all over here. So yeah. Game master is just such an aggressive,

like title for the thing. Sort of like staff. Especially for like high teenagers that don't care, but like whatever, then we'll find moments to really like, like really lean into it. Yeah. Yeah.

What is something Jen that you think is underrated? Okay. I've got one, which is robes. Robes.es oh I love it robes you guys a robe is the most relaxing of all pieces of fabric that can like it's better than a blanket it's better it's like a whole it's an energy you know what i mean yeah yeah absolutely i love i just uh i was talking about this recently and i know some of the listeners followed my robe advice because i it's how i get out of the shower now is like i have a bathrobe

that i just that i walk into rather than using a towel oh you don't even dry off before the bath no because i have like a terry cloth bathrobe so i like my i can just like i grab it i'm still in the shower the second it touches your skin it's already starting to absorb everything on your back your legs your arms and then i'm like oh this is way more efficient and you feel more cozy yeah there's robes for everything too like i like what you're talking about the robe right when you get out of the shower there's also like you can go with a silk robe to like add a real like guys you see what i'm saying like i love a robe a drink a moment like floor lamps like i i'm getting a whole vibe i'm getting an energy i didn't even realize i was that much into a vibe until I started talking to you guys today. But yeah, like a silk robe. I always travel with a robe to like, I'll go to Target and just find like, oh, like a little, you know, cotton robe that I can like, always pack in my suitcase in case you know, you're staying at somebody else's house or like whatever you're like, you just there's robes for all seasons. Yeah, there's a winter robe, spring robe, summer robe. Like I'm into it.

Yeah, silk robe. I just whenever I hear that I can I can't stop thinking about Alfred Molina's character in Boogie Nights, Rod Jackson, that drug dealer who was just in the silk robe the whole time and just like off his face. I just gonna say i was just gonna say white guys i think shouldn't wear robes i think that's the one like eric scultz and pope fiction alfred molina and boogie nights like i feel like uh it's just not like me when i'm unshaven and wearing a a bathrobe like unless it's like a real big luxurious thick bathrobe like if it's just a you know threadbare bathrobe or just a normal bathrobe and i'm looking unshaven i i look like shit i look like people are like oh man how long have you been out of work like that's just the

immediate impression that you give people but like i can't like you guys both. I can picture you guys in bathrobes and you would look amazing. I think it's just like something about middle aged unshaven white guy that it doesn't work for. I'm low. Jen, I have context robes of situational robes. I have one that's more just for like scumbaggery. Like because like when it gets cold in the house, you know, we don't really our homes don't heat well. So I have like a huge fleece robe with a hood that I wear to like just stay warm. Right.

But I've been, I don't know if, have y'all seen, been getting served the most aggressive robe ads on Instagram for this thing called Off? And I don't mean to do an ad for them, but it's like the biggest chunky robe I've ever seen. And like Instagram costs like, you want this man? It's called Off Hours. You want this? And I'm like, cool. It's like 300 bucks.'m like for a robe no no right i can't wait to find out if i have now been targeted if i'll like start getting the ad for that robe i haven't i haven't seen this robe there is like there's a good you should everyone should also have like a depressive

robe like what you're saying like where when it cold, like you're like your trash robe, you know? Like, so I don't know. I feel like. Taking out the garbage robes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Absolutely. Absolutely. It's also Bill Murray in Lost in Translation, which is another bathrobe that is meant to imply depression. I just think that people at some point figured out, like if you put a like 40 plus, 40 plus white guy in a robe, it's going to it's going to communicate depression like immediately. There was a robe I threw out after I was fully vaccinated where I was like, that robe represents some dark times in the past 12 months of my life. Yeah, I will. I will not be keeping that robe as a as a memento.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even like, you know, in Lebowski,mento. Right. Yeah, it's gone. I mean, even like, you know, in Lebowski, the dude has like, he's got a robe when he goes to the grocery store. Yes. Fucking, even like in, what is it, Tyler Durden in Fight Club?

There's a moment where he's got that pink robe on. That's like a kind of on the edge, like, okay, that's kind of cool. Right. Because it's Tyler Durden. Yeah, if you're Brad Pitt, that's a good look. Otherwise about rocky bro what about that robe what the boxing robe yeah when you get in the ring bro yeah i mean that's you if you have the rocky robe and it's not like you know worn out if it's like shiny and looks new hell yeah man the way you're talking it seems like you have a worn out rocky robe that you were i I'm just saying. When it's mint, dude, it looks good when it's mint. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, with the hood, I think that you can get away with a lot, you know. Yeah. Rocking the. I just actually do the Mike Tyson cut a hole on a white towel and wear that around the house after showers. Yeah. Poncho. All right.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and yeah, the hits just keep coming for the Tokyo Olympics. More just bad news all around. Last week we talked about how the starting shooting guard for the usa basketball team is going to miss uh the games bradley beal because he's in the covid protocol uh now coco goth uh who is the highest ranking member of the u.s tennis team uh headed to tokyo is not going to be able to play because of COVID. Yeah.

Just like, and it sucks. You know, it's like so many people now, this is on top of like, we're also hearing that an alternate on the U S women's gymnastics team is also having to isolate after testing positive. And like that team is like, get Simone Biles out of here.

Like just to make sure she is absolutely 100 able to participate so like uh this uh alternate named Kara Eaker and this is on the heels of again this is just a report of what we're hearing quote organizers of the games reported more than two dozen people who traveled to Japan for the Olympics have tested positive this weekend most concerning of all is that cases were detected within the athletes village where thousands of people will be staying. Yeah. The Olympics start Friday. And there's like even if you go to the Olympics website, there's a special section.

It's like there's like a PDF that's updated daily with like new COVID infections. So you can check out what's like a running count. And you're like, right. what's like a running count. And you're like, right. So there's just no way that you can put thousands of people in one place right now from all over the world and expect for it to not be a disaster. I mean,

that being said, the Olympic village is a notoriously chaste and a social environment where people aren't just constantly having sex with one another all over the place constantly everywhere. So should be fine. Oh no, I think that is the case. Oh my bad. The most social and

sex positive environment maybe in Western culture. Just rock hard bodies just rolling around. It's just very exciting. I feel like we just like culturally we're like, yeah, you guys should have sex with each other.

Like, I don't care if you're married. Like that's, that's great. Yeah. Cause it's like superhero breeding or something like, man, could you manage this like power lifter and this hurdler?

Like what? It's like all the Marvel, it's like the Marvel universe. And like, we're putting them all like the most attractive, like, like our heroes, like we're putting them all in one place.

Like it's. And they all have powers essentially vis-a-vis their sports specialty. It's like, yeah, you can't stop. But the other thing is like, you know, there's 11,000 athletes,

right. And like the, and with like the athletes and their coaches that are coming. And then there's thousands more who are the officials. Oh, shit. And like we're already hearing reports of people like being like, oh, I have to go into isolation because on my flight, apparently, I was in contact. There was like contact tracing led us to believe that we were in contact with someone who was infected. And you're going to have 11,000 people. It's just really, I don't know, like, it's just so unfair, right? As an athlete, you're like, I'm already putting myself at risk

for infection, but also like potentially, even if I'm asymptomatic and I'm infected, I can't participate in something that's like my life's work and it's like it's so again aside from all the the stupidity of like the government funding that's thrown around to have these games but like to also keep these people from uh being able to compete and like and insisting that the games go on is just it like puts an awful awful filter or tinge over these these games yeah so the the officials you're talking about like the people who are officiating the events are in the olympic village i don't know if they're in the village but they're adjacent but i mean like this but we're just talking about thousands and thousands of people having to enter like whether that's like those

are the people who are like talking to people before like they compete in their event before a diving event or sprinting event or whatever, like all of those people talking. And it's also, too, I think we forget that, you know, in America, it's a choice right now whether or not you get vaccinated and the whole world is not given access to the vaccination. So it's like so many of these people coming in to work, to participate in the Olympics are not vaccinated because they don't have access to it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't.

So I guess nothing can go wrong. So we're just rolling the dice here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Absolute huge dice roll. And unfortunately, I hate to think about it, but someone could get really sick, you know, who's just there to participate. And because of the insistence of having these games

in the middle of a pandemic, could end up in like really terrible outcomes for people. And it's just really, it's just like fucked up. It's I don't know how like how much more you can do to make these like worse. Because on top of that, like the city of Tokyo is already like in a state of emergency. They're saying like if they test the like the bay where the triathlon is going to happen, like, I don't know, know man the pollution could be really bad in the in the bay also like really yeah dude in 2019 water is mostly covid it was dude in 2018 or 2019 in one of the paralympic games that were happening or like a triathlon event that's happening there

the people were like dude you can't swim here it's got two times the level of e-coli that we can allow people to like you know swim in this with their open mouths so no you know so i think right now what they're having to do is like treat all of this water before it gets to the bay and it's just like adding all these complications on complications and it's like what else do you fucking need to happen yeah it's uh especially like u.s basketball was probably flying private but i can't imagine like all of the athletes are flying over there like on private jets right so like that's no not great all right let's talk about the delta wave because it seems like i mean it's clear that the Delta variant is causing many infections

and it's the driving force behind this new big wave in the U.S. and basically everywhere, the U.K., even though they just opened up, are seeing a surge in cases. But we're also seeing that the vaccines work. Yeah, the vaccines work and most vax people are not symptomatic or they're experiencing very mild symptoms and like when you look at the numbers of like people in the hospital percentage of people in the hospital who've been vaccinated it's like really low and when you look at the cases of people who die, it's like ninety nine point five percent of the people who die are unvaccinated. So it's just the vaccine fucking works. And we're still treating people who've been vaccinated and get get the virus, but like aren't symptomatic the same as we treat people who aren't vaccinated. Right. Yeah. And it just seems like there's a there's a big debate going on with public health officials to even understand,

like we need more nuanced data to even know, like who's a person with covid? What if they were hospitalized or not? I mean, there is that stuff is out there, but it's not actually being. I'm sure people are now working to put it all together to really analyze what's happening. But you know, this, these infections are really causing this debate more to say like, what, what do we need to do in terms of our policy and public health policies to understand, like, if we have people who aren't ending up in the hospital or only having mild symptoms, like we want, so it's not causing hospitalizations or death, only having mild symptoms like we want, so it's not causing hospitalizations or death, what then do we need to do to actually make sure we're, A, putting the right resources towards the right things rather than just testing people who have been vaccinated and may have mild symptoms,

if that's a worthwhile resource spend, if they can be focused elsewhere. And a lot of the positives that they get from people who are vaccinated, they sort of break down like this. This is from this article and talking points memo. It says COVID quote, COVID can briefly take hold and reproduce in a person's nasal cavity and upper respiratory system before being knocked down by effective vaccines that will produce a positive result on a PCR test. So it's essentially saying that the viral load that is like sort of being seen in the PCR test will be like reduced by the vaccinations. But if it picks it up, it picks up this viral genetic material. There are some doctors like this is not infections, what's called colonization. And so it's exposure that actually stimulates immune response versus, you know, what we're dealing with is like, what about the people who are unvaccinated and are, you know, still socializing in their unvaccinated communities? Those seem to be bigger threats to

safety than vaccinated people who are merely asymptomatic and are just testing positive. So it's causing like, it's just all these, there's so much we're still trying to figure out and learn. But at the same time, people are like, what's fair? What makes sense? Does it make sense to say this person can't compete in an Olympics, even if they're not a danger to themselves or other people? But then we're still trying to figure out how much of a danger that is. So it just leaves a lot of questions. It can still spread, right? Even if it's just colonizing your nose, but it hasn't like fully infected your body, like you can still spread it to somebody who's not vaccinated, right? Yeah. But I think that's where they want more research to, to understand like what, what are the, like the full sort of in a diagnostic sense, what are the risk

factors involved with that kind of transmission and what isn't? And, you know, I think we're just, we're still very much in a mindset of like, oh, someone has COVID, that's an infection, I think we're just we're still very much in a mindset of like, oh, someone has COVID. That's an infection. That's a number on the board, even though we see, as experts say, it's decoupling the connection from getting infected and being hospitalized or potentially, you know, passing away. Right. Which is kind of suppressing the data on behalf of the vaccine. Right. Because, you know, you'll see numbers going up in places that are largely vaccinated because of these like sort of colonization things. But then when in places like, you know, the the south of the United States are seeing numbers spike up and also people

aren't really vaccinated. So it's like more serious. Right. Yeah. And it also like kind of deemphasizes the importance of getting vaccinated. And that's the thing, like in Arkansas, the governor there in the beginning of the pandemic signed a bill that reduced his own powers to like mandate things like mask wearing. And he's now like being like, yeah, folks, you got to get vaccinated. But he's also handcuffed himself with this like stupid Trumpian gesture he made at the beginning of lockdown to be like, I'm not going to, you know, force people to do anything. So I'm going to pass this sort of like measure to say a governor can't do that.

And now he's just like, all he can do is just beg people now to get vaccinated as, you know, the rates go higher and higher. It's just, it's just a very odd situation. And do you guys live in LA? Yeah. I mean, so now we're also back to wearing masks. It's just, I mean, and also it's my understanding, like we could, if you're vaccinated, you can still get COVID, especially the Delta variant. And you might have symptoms, you might get really sick. I mean, those cases are few and far between. And I mean, I just finally went out back into the world. Family came to visit and I was at restaurants and just out. And then I got sick and I was pretty confident that it was just like a cold because it felt, it felt like a cold. I was like, Oh, sense memory. I know what this is. I haven't

been sick in over a year, but because I had just spent time with all of these people who I love so dearly, I was like, okay, I'm going to go get tested. And it was more the anxiety of like, I was like, okay, I'm going to go get tested. And it was more the anxiety of like, am I vaccinated and I'm still getting freaking COVID? And that's just the, I don't know if we'll ever get on the same page as a whole. Yeah. I think that it just might be this piecemeal kind of existence. And not to even say it in a, I mean, of course, I'm like frustrated. And I'm sure, you know, so many people are, but it's just kind of like,

also trying to have radical acceptance of the chaos of this situation. Yeah, which is tough. Yeah. When like the part of that chaos is like, you know, potentially deadly outcomes, and then trying to navigate things like okay well i'm vaccinated am i okay but then you look at you know the real numbers and you're like well statistically like a lot of people in this room probably aren't if i'm just looking purely at the the math of it all but yeah it feels like i think like a lot of people in saying like since like for the last two weeks, like it feels like we're headed for another lockdown, given like how so many places are opening up the way they're opening up, like completely acting like it's 2019. In some instances, you look at, you know, like in the UK where it's like their Freedom Day was Monday and the clubs were just packed and like the numbers like 45,000 new cases a day, which are like mimics like the worst wave.

But hospitalizations are low. So it's like, you know, we're in this sort of new phase. And I think that's sort of what a lot of the write ups were about, especially when vaccinations were becoming more popular and the Delta variant was popping up. It's like it's just going to be these weird. Well, not weird, just these localized spikes, but with the potential to destabilize the entire regions because the strain on like public health services could be so bad. Well, speaking of the vaccine becoming more popular, we're starting to see a little bit of a 180 on behalf of one of our favorite news programs, Fox and Friends.

We have a little clip from Fox and Friends' Monday morning broadcast here for you. Steve Doocy is singing a different tune, apparently. And let's just check this out. And yes, this is from Fox and Friends. This is what you're about to hear. One of the CDC officials said yesterday, look, the pandemic right now is really just with people who have not been vaccinated. Thank you. 99% of the people who have died have not been vaccinated. And so what they're trying to do is they're trying to make sure that all the people who have not been

vaccinated get vaccinated. And unfortunately, and this is one of the reasons apparently the Joe Biden administration came out last week. The administration's been very, very frustrated. They have not been able to get Facebook to get rid of some of the disinformation. The disinformation is online. The vaccine is killing lots and lots of people, or it changes your DNA or they're little microchips. None of that is true. Right. And so that's why you have in Washington, this continuous message of misinformation,

misinformation, and the surgeon general, I didn't know. This goes on to basically be like, y'all get the vaccine because it'll save your life. And everyone's like, wait, what?

You guys have been spending your whole lives spreading this. The fact that they treated that as if this is new information we're just finding out about. Apparently, there's a vaccine. And so this is spreading among people who don't get the vaccine, apparently, according to the Biden administration. Exactly. What Kilmeade said. Yeah, Kilmeade said exactly and threw his hands up like, we've been trying to tell y'all but he misunderstands so upset just shaking his head just biting his tongue yeah oh yeah he hated that they were talking right before that clip he

kill me saying like the weirdest thing about essentially like the government's insistence is making people not want to get vaccinated like that was sort of the last point he made and then deuce he's like yeah but here's a thing like it works and people are dying and he's like exactly and you're like hold on dude you you're arguing okay whatever kill me wait he was saying that the government like isn't being chill enough and that's why we're not yeah he's like well if you're about your freedoms and you hear that from the government it's gonna make people be like heck i want to be in charge of what i want like you know just sort of trying to give a rationalization for people who are being anti-vax and not addressing the fact that their most popular program

like spreads those exact conspiracy theories that tuggar carlson like talks about like i'm just asking questions here folks how many people are dying from that? So he's not saying he's just asking questions on a very popular national news news in quotes program. Yeah. And, you know, going around saying like they're going to ask for door to door, you know, get people vaccinated and just creating all this fear around like the administration trying to get people vaccinated i mean part of me is like are they like do they feel that they're have a huge enough hand in this misinformation campaign is like a gigantic company that there could potentially be lawsuits for people saying like my family member was listening to fox news and they were repeatedly saying you don't need this don't get the vaccine and then they got really sick when they could have got it and now i'm suing for damages and now they're now they're being like oh no i mean like look that we have we

have we have a lot of people that are very forcefully saying it too like it's just i can't look at anything they do and think that it's ever for the right reasons yeah i mean based on my legal degree i think they can be sued for that oh hell, hell yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, Doug. I went to the law school of my cousin Vinny that I watched like dozens of times as a kid. So I think I know a thing or two. Thinking of what damages are. I saw the Glenn Close show.

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I think the press secretary pointed out that there are like 12 accounts that if they banned them would cut down disinformation by like 60 percent on Facebook, and they're just not willing to ban those accounts. And so it's just like, okay, so we've kind of known social media is a bit of a Pandora's box once it opened and like everybody is on equal footing in terms of sourcing and where we kind of became slightly fucked. There's an even better illustration of that with a technology from an Israeli surveillance firm. So they have been selling this software to governments that they think are trustworthy. Unfortunately,

that includes Saudi Arabia. They don't give the specific list of countries, which is how you know that it's probably full of good actors who we can assume are using it responsibly. But basically this software allows them to, they just like pull all photos, emails, messages from your phone and also secretly activate your microphone. So they can turn your phone and also secretly activate your microphone so they can turn your phone into a bugging device and it's just been used you know they so they got access to the phone numbers that were in the database of like people that they were interested in using this on a lot of activists journalists who are trying to expose corruption human rights lawyers uh specifically a freelance mexican reporter uh cecilio pineda birto was found on

the list he was apparently of interest to a mexican client in the weeks leading up to his murder when his killers were able to locate him. At a car wash. So yeah. This is just. It's fucked. And this is. I mean anyone can have access to this. Basically.

Yeah this makes all my. Friends who insist on not getting. Smartphones seem really smart. Right. Are you going to hack this Motorola Motorola StarTAC from oh two you're right I don't know uh how and yeah god this it's just so funny like like and yeah we give it to company or countries and governments we think are you know on the up and up like who I mean no one's on the up andF. Yeah, I'm like, nobody.

I've been watching this show on, it's now on Netflix, but it was a Sony crackle show called Startup. And this is essentially the plot of the show. And it's, no one has great intentions. Like, anyone who has access to that much information will be using it for for evil not good and and it just makes me want to hide in a tiny cabin far far away makes me want to head to camp cocktail do you know what i mean oh yeah i'm there i'll meet you there yeah yeah go to camp cocktail pull the nice warm blanket up to your chin. And we throw our iPhones in the lake. Exactly.

There you go. I'm a kind of three. Here we go. One, two, three. Liberated. But yeah, again, I don't know anyone. I mean, I get in the action movie sense, the quote-unquote good guys would be able to find the quote-unquote bad guys by using this

technology but all you're seeing like so many articles have been written about just like journalists and like the wrong people and you're like right because this is again the the balance of power you don't want people out here advocating for the truth uh in a country that might be truth averse which seems to be a lot of places these days. Yeah, especially as we're kind of coming to terms with the misbehavior of a lot of the hyper wealthy institutions that are out there like this. Not not great that to the highest bidder, they will sell a thing that basically is like

turns everybody into a spy on their loved ones right essentially wait it's for the highest bidder i thought you said it was to trustworthy people well people with trustworthy credit scores right there you go checks don't bounce that's what we mean yeah it's it's just funny like I feel like hopefully this continues this trend of back in whenever The Dark Knight came out, we had a storyline where Batman turned everybody's cell phones into monitoring devices. Hell yeah, because we need to because of global terrorism. And then now I feel like that probably wouldn't work anymore. Yeah. When it's like, yeah, everything's a surveillance network now because we don't want people reporting about illegal tax havens. Right, right, exactly.

The Panama Papers. Who are you fighting now? Yeah, yeah. It just feels like, I mean, that used to also be Facebook's argument was like, ultimate transparency because we, like, if you have nothing to hide, why would you care about surveillance? And now I feel like we've seen through that just via all the bullshit that we've been putting up with for the past yeah i mean this is the new way of war it's not like how it used to be like it's it's really not about who's got like the biggest weapons and the most people it's just about technology and how

you know everyone can disrupt each other through that. It's like, you know, and shut down systems and know where people are. And I mean, it really, I mean, that, yeah, that's the new way of war for sure. Like, oh, yeah, we used to just drop big bombs on things so they couldn't communicate. Now we just hack it and we flip a switch and now you have no power at your hospital. Right. And yeah, again, everything being so connected and also just reading constantly about how the u.s is always saying like we're so behind on the cyber stuff we're so behind because we're we're over leveraged on the exploding people version of war we completely had a blind spot

technologically and yeah we're starting to see just how vulnerable so many of our systems are yeah by the way this is even though the uS. probably isn't one of the clients of this specific institution, like, all this means is that the U.S. government and military has the ability to do this already and, like, doesn't need to go further out. You pay for Pandora? Nah, dude, we got our own homebrew version. We've been using it since the 80s, man. We're good.

Yeah. Yeah, Pandora, by the way, I just think it's funny that that's what it's called right no no i just pointed out that it's fucking wild that like less than 15 years ago it was okay to name your software pandora and now it's that just seems very silly and ironic that you would do that when technology is truly like becoming the it's almost like they they knew what was going to happen at some point all right let's say goodbye to another thing that we we don't want to see go away but salad bars we might have to say rip baby cnn just confirmed it. The salad bar is dying. As they talk to many grocers and analysts,

they're like, yeah, dude, there's only a few places that are going to bring it back. I'm sure most people, if they go to their grocery store, they see that the salad bar is merely a place to put olives that are in plastic containers and pre-made stuff. And you're like, damn, I remember when this was a bustling feeding trough. But in general, pandemic has changed how people look at like what it means to eat out of a big old fucking trough, basically,

with like a piece of glass that's supposed to keep you safe. And in general, like people are shopping for groceries in more varied ways, like whether that's delivery or like doing curbside pickup. So there's like less foot traffic than normal. And so this is from CNS's quote. Grocers and analysts say a combination of factors has kept stores from rushing back to bring back their salad bars. Customers are now buying more groceries online, working from home than they were before the pandemic, reducing the need for quick midday trips to salad bars. Some have moved away from them because of sanitary

concerns. That's fair. Yeah, I was going to say, and it's super gross. You know, like I remember growing up, there was this restaurant in my hometown called the Rain Dancer and they had a salad bar. And it was like that was my favorite thing as a kid to be like yes i will be getting the salad bar you'd go up and they kept glass plates in a refrigerator so like you know you slide open the fridge take out your ice cold plate and then you'd move through the salad bar and everything would stay so cold on the plate like that iceberg was like really you know like icy it was like crisp and but even then and then as I became a teenager and friends started to work there they're like the salad bar is disgusting like we just pile the new stuff on top of the old stuff and then the old stuff at the end of the day is even like older and they were like it is is gnarly. And I always remember that at like 16 being like, oh, like salad bars are gross.

And it's like, but it is also so fun. There's something about like when the heater is on top of that, like, you know, the General Tso's chicken at Whole Foods where you're like, oh, like that seems really appealing to me, even though I know it's kind of disgusting. I think we discovered that some food like General Tso's chicken, that should be part of the preparation is making it sit under a heat lamp for two hours. 100%. Yeah, it makes it like the syrup infuses the breading. 100%. Yeah, it makes it like the syrup infuses the breading. The hot food bar always felt like the elevated trough eating experience for me.

It's like, dude, I ain't going to the salad bar. I'm going to get this like seven hour old enchilada fucking plate that I'm just going to scoop out with just just mangle it with this plastic spoon and put it in my cardboard box and I've got a meal. But I think like I used to hit salad bars when I was like way more tethered to like an office, like in my past job, you're like clear. It's like, fuck, you got you got 45 minutes an hour, like run over there because like it's typically the speed at which you can pile in your, you know, to go box was how you could get down and eat. pile in your you know to-go box was how you could get down and eat and now like i because i'm making my own lunch and things like that i truly am just like yeah paying for leaves by the pound isn't as appealing as it used to be yeah but i don't know you know i it will i don't know if i'll miss it but the experience i do have memories out of salad oh. Oh, yeah. I mean, is it salad bars now? Like buffets tomorrow? Like what happens to, you know, all the, you know, like the hotel buffet?

Like, are we done with that too? Yeah. I don't think we're ever. What are they going to do? I don't think we're ever getting rid of the. I like I had this experience. I think I talked about on the show where I drove past a like seafood, all you can eat seafood buffet here in Los Angeles. It was like peak.

I think we were like at the point we probably weren't on complete shutdown, but we were definitely in that area where, you know, you had to wear a mask everywhere you went. Where someone was dying every six minutes. Remember that phase? Yeah, that was kind of hard to live with and the and the parking lot was fucking overflowing because it's just a value and all you can eat is a challenge to americans i don't think oh hell yeah yeah i don't think that's going anywhere man that that refrigerated plate thing is such a great idea that. And the plates were shaped like a fish. Oh, my God. And I love the problematic name of the buffet to the rain.

Do you know, as I was saying it, I, you know, because I haven't lived there and so long. And as it came out of my mouth, I was like, Ooh, I think we need to rebrand on the rain dancer in Amsterdam, New York. I don't think it's working anymore. Yeah. It's funny. Like,

I feel like there need to be more like Instagram accounts or people just like, Hey, throw up the names of the most wacky business places, like restaurants and businesses that just had the most culturally insensitive, like the Orient buffet. And you're like, Oh boy,

Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy. But yeah, RIP the salad bar. You, you will be missed.

Every salad bar I've been to there, there, the plates are usually still hot from like the dishwasher. So like, there's like just that, that overall, like kind of remnant from the back house part of the, and I used to be a dishwasher, so I know what that's like. Right.

But also, like, refrigerating a plate, like, in pandemic, too, like, isn't this going to preserve the bacteria through refrigeration? You know what I mean? In a weird way where it's versus, like like heat blasting a plate is one thing. And then washing it and like people are touching them. And then it's like preserved in like a refrigerated state too. But I love the feeling because, yeah, a nice cold glass or something or plate or whatever feels elevated. We've got early pandemic fomites here on these plates that we've preserved from, this is the actual original COVID-19. This is 2019 COVID-19. So yeah, you can get pretty good money for this. The other thing I see is just also like in this one article, they talked about Bristol

Farms in California saying, we're not going to close our salad bar. And Bristol Farms in California saying we're not going to close our salad bar. And Bristol Farms is usually in very affluent areas. And I'm starting to wonder if like wealthier areas are going to hold on to their salad bars to say like, nothing's wrong with that. I love my salad bar. Like if it's, you know, if it's Hy-Vee or Wegmans, like in this article, they said they're going to stop it. But like Bristol Farms, like, no, baby, we're still we're still here. Wealthy people hold on to everything. They refuse to change. They think it will not touch them. So, yeah, 100 percent. That's what that was. The one thing I clocked as like a California person, like but Bristol farms in California may be the exception.

I'm like, of course it is. People weren't wearing masks in there when you had to. So they're the exception to everything. They're snowflakes. They're perfect. All right. I do want to get to this Britney Spears story while we have Jen here who has a Britney Spears podcast. So this is getting picked up. Britney Spears' bodyguard basically came out and confirmed the most surreal kind of implications of her testimony. He said that she basically wasn't allowed to do anything besides watch TV and work out. Her phone was monitored. Visitors were searched and, like, wandered with a metal detector. Her dad called her security guard three to four times a day to check in on her, detector her dad called her security guard three to four times a day to check in on her which you know might sound like a doting worrying father except remember that he compared her to a

racehorse and then maybe most disturbing she was given a once a week powerful cocktail of prescription drugs three anti-psychotic medications and birth control pills just like straight up old boy shit like she wasn't she was just being like kept in like a human zoo and it's wild i also thought it was interesting so this security guard who's a ex-cop said that she would go from like being totally sane to talking about parallel universes which for him is like code for cuckoo bananas but that's actually like like i said earlier what a lot of the scientific consensus thinks might be the truth of our like reality yeah here's here's the thing britney spears from the many people I've talked to who know Britney and who knew her at different times in her life, all say that this has been a through line, that Britney is very connected to either. I mean, she might have the gift of sight where she can see into the future.

She also feels very connected to the other side. also feels very connected to the other side. Like this is something that, that has been consistent with Brittany and that she also, she's not really into small talk. She goes super deep, really fast. And this,

this is, like I said, people who have known her for a really long time knew her when she was completely sober. It's not sober it's not like it's not about being on drugs or anything where she will just like talk about the deeper like the deep meaning of like why very existential like why are we here you know she also talks about angels the other side so this season on my podcast i I had her makeup artist, Julianne Kaye, who was with her in her early years. And she came on and told a story. And this, you guys, this is so wild. But

Britney Spears owned a house off of Sunset. And this was when she was dating Justin Timberlake. So then she and Justin break up. Brittany was out partying all weekend long. And at the end of the weekend, she was like, can you, to Julianne Kay, this makeup artist, can you send your Reiki healer to the house to do body work on me? She says, sure. She sends the Reiki healer up to Brittany's house. The Reiki healer performs body work on Brittany. And then Brittany calls Julianne Kay and she says, I don't know. He opened up some sort of spiritual portal. And I saw two people, a man and she says, I don't know. He opened up some sort of spiritual portal. And I saw two people, a man and a woman, and they were fighting and they tried to throw me down the stairs.

I'm leaving the house right now and I got to get out of here. And she checked into a hotel. She never returned to the house again. She put the house on the market and the house was sold to Brittany Murphy. And Brittany Murphy and her husband both died in that house. What the fuck? So then I had I ended up having a paranormal researcher come on to the show. So not a psychic, not someone who just purely just researches all of this stuff.

And he was saying that it could be like a number of things. One, she could have seen into the future. Two, the house, like there could have been some sort of spirit that was trapped in the house. It's just like Brittany, 100%. Right. This is her bag. And I mean, I think it just actually makes a lot of sense and explains a lot. Like Britney Spears, even now with everything that's going on and the more she's telling us and telling the judge and wanting it to be made public, it's like, okay, she's making

so much sense. She's so coherent. She's being, you know, she's laying out all the facts and then she'll post something that's so kooky. And then immediately everyone goes, that can't be her or see, she is actually crazy. And so it's like, guys, I think like, she's just like connected to the world in ways that us like mere mortals aren't. And that is what makes her Britney Spears. And can we all just finally get on the same page and recognize that she is an original and like,

she is all of the things she is kooky. She is smart. We can say multitudes. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So I believe everything that her bodyguard said. I'm so glad that he's coming forward.

And it all makes sense to me. Like, I don't think that the medication or like by her saying that she believes in in all, you know, paranormal and all this and that. I don't think it like, OK, proves that she's crazy. I think it proves like proves that she's crazy i think it proves like that she just she's consistent with what her interests are what she feels how she makes sense of the world because i mean who better than someone who has been thrust into the spotlight from childhood to ask a lot of deeper questions about their existence i mean like the child stardom is such a fucked up experience where seldom are

there people be like, it was 100% turbulence free. I'd do it again if I, if I had the chance, many people are come out of there really fucked up and tortured, feel neglected, or they had to grow up too fast. And I can imagine for someone who like had spent their worst period of their life, just under a microscope being like, what is the like why are why am i like this focal point like i i couldn't imagine like shit i would think of if i was on a shroom trip and i was britney spears or i had the same experiences i mean your reality would feel like a bad shroom trip at that point like that's kind of the implication of the of the documentary is that like when you actually look back at what she was dealing with at that point like put hitting a photographer who's been like trailing her and

like making her like trying to like take pictures of her like accidentally exposing her vagina like or whatever for a split second like that of course i like i would also try and hit that person's car with a fucking umbrella like that i i feel like the implication of the documentary was like she went sane she was like doing a thing that was the reaction that you would have to being in this weird fucked up like again like kind of a zoo like where like everybody's just looking at you watching you like for their entertainment not taking into account your humanity at all and then like that's similar to the multiverse that like this person is hearing her and being like that's what a loony tune and then in reality it's like, that's what a loony tune. And then in reality, it's like, well, that's actually what a lot of scientists think is a rational way to explain the time-space continuum.

Brittany's just been a constant reflection of how society is functioning, especially when it comes to pop culture. how society is like functioning, especially when it comes to pop culture. It's like when she first came out, it was when she was going through, you know, postpartum depression, having her two kids going through a divorce. Her parents also got divorced at this time. Her aunt passed away. She broke up with Justin Timberlake, who was such a defining part of her identity at that time. I mean, all of these things happened within a span of three years. And she is being, you know, at that time, it was like, okay, people wanting to see her fail. You know, it was constantly provoking her

to see how she would react. The paparazzi hunting her down and all of us consuming it. And now it's all of us trying to right that wrong of encouraging that. And now it's like, there must be justice for Brittany. And I just wonder, I wonder what will happen. I believe that she will be free. I think it's going to take some time. And I wonder what we, the people will do when that happens, you know, like will, will they come for Brittany in some new way? Will it, you know, right now everyone's hunting down and wanting to, to blame her, her sister and her. Right.

You know, it's just it's more than anything. I look at, you know, I started this podcast because I loved Britney and, you know, it was not in vogue to talk about Britney Spears three, four years ago. three, four years ago, it was, it was like a very niche thing where I was like, I'm just going to go back and find my people because I felt like I was in all of these arenas and stadiums as a teenager. And I'm like, they're out there somewhere. And then I went to like, I went to college and suddenly like no one was into Britney. And then I, you know, moved to Los Angeles and I'm like, but not ironically, like where are all those people that were in those arenas with me? And so then when I started doing this, I like realized I was like, oh, like, fan culture is really something because we're all like our own mini dysfunctional family. Like there's the kooky aunt. There's the really fucked up uncle.

There's like the supportive mom. There's like, but but not everyone is on the same page so i just i'm so curious what everyone will do once britney is is free but it's just more than any of us could have like ever imagined what was happening to her it's it's it's really really something and the fact that she's been judged for the past 13 years of her life on essentially like three really bad days is just like is is unfathomable like like she's just been such a victim of her of her dad's dysfunction it's a really tragic story it's really it's just it's it's unbelievable truly well hopefully people will leave her alone after she frees herself and just like let her live her life but can't imagine can you imagine i mean if just if the attention of the amount of clicks it

gets to focus on her potential you know potentially being liberated from this conservatorship i can't imagine the press just as an entity is then being like okay let's let her go they're gonna be like she's thriving look at her now she's vacationing here look at her with her kids like okay what the fuck are you you're still not giving this person their space but i think that's just a larger reckoning we again to like sort of your point, Jen is like, we sort of need to have a reckoning with how we, what we believe the nature of celebrity is and what people are entitled to as fans to know or not know.

And you know how much of a microscope people should be put on. Yeah. She's spending all the money now that she got it back. And that was everyone's greatest fear. It's like, let her spend her money. She bought nine pushes. People go broke every day like in this

country like let her spend 60 million and have to figure it out like that's what life and growing up is about how to manage our our money our our life you know that would be super sad she's like dude she blew it all on candy necklaces right and it And it's like, Oh boy. I always like let her buy the angel oil paintings and like, you know, buy a house in Hawaii. Like just let her. Do you. Oh yeah,

absolutely. Live that life. Yeah. And if she is in the market for angel oil paintings, uh, hit me up Brittany. Cause I got some. Jack's got you.

At angels by Jack. Good ones. Jen, it's been such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist. Uh, where can people find you and follow you? You can find me on Instagram at Jennifer Zaborowski. That's so you can sound it phonetically.

Yeah. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't do Twitter guys. I got off and I said,

I just can't, my brain was just, it was too much going on up here. So, yeah, yeah. And I don't do Twitter, guys. I got off and I said, I just can't. My brain was just it was too much going on up here. So, yeah, you can follow me on Instagram. There you go. Perfect. And is there a tweet or a gram or something that you've been enjoying? I mean, it really is all about Brittany. And I, right before I got on with you guys, I looked at her, her Instagram to review and she posted a new Instagram post and it is, is kind of wild because she posted a picture of Kelly Oxford doing yoga. Kelly Oxford is a writer, a director. She has a big social media presence. And this was probably even over a year ago, Kelly Oxford commented on a Britney Spears post and said how it was all too much for her. And it was like disturbing to her what Britney was posting. And then all these Britney stans went after Kelly Oxford and said, how dare you?

She's happy. She's OK. Like, this isn't dysfunctional. You're dysfunctional. And so it was this whole thing about how Kelly Oxford was the worst person in the world for posting that on Britney's Instagram. And then Britney today posted a picture and tag Kelly Oxford doing yoga. And guys, it's just Brittany. When you think you've got her nailed down, you just don't. And that's why I love her. 4D chess. Wow.

Miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also, the other pod, 420 Day Fiance. If if you like 90 day fiance come come visit us over there because we got we got nothing but fire takes about that show some tweets that i like it's really just one at that one queen tweeted i just know some queen is going to name herself delta variant and it's very i'm like yeah i can see that happening so uh shout out to whichever drag queen gets to that name first that's a good name andrew mikan tweeted i got vaccinated for this me very loudly in public

every time i'm bored uh and uh let's see oh and at sophie bottle tweeted if you're worried you ever said something weird to me just know that I don't remember anything anybody has said to me ever in my life. And I identify with both sides of that. I constantly think of weird stuff I've said and also don't remember anything anyone's ever said to me. So you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page

and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our foot notes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song are we sending people to check out today we are going

to be doing an another song from uh pink pantherous who is just i just love uh the pink pantherous vibe it's like this just getting into old like drum and bass sort of jungle style but like being real sing-songy on it and this track is called passion so it's if you like the other track we went out on a while back uh you're gonna like this one because it's just very playful and has this again good energy good energy hell yeah well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcaster wherever you listen your favorite shows that is gonna do it for us this morning we are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we will talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye.

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