The Daily Zeitgeist - Fox News Tree = Sacred Jewish Artifact? Cringe Hit Piece 12.10.21

Episode Date: December 10, 2021

In episode 1047, Jack and Miles are joined by podcaster and comedian Brandie Posey to discuss Ghislaine Maxwell Prosecution Has Rested, Latest ‘attack’ on Kamala Harris is fuckin tired…, Fox New...s’ round the clock TREE HATE CRIME COVERAGE and more!Kamala Harris is Bluetooth-phobicLISTEN: Opinion Cave by Brandie PoseyLady to Lady PodcastLISTEN: Sing Along by BGM Channel Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
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Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:02:17 which of course means that it is Dewey Decimal System Day, the day in which we appreciate the days my elementary school education devoted to learning the Dewey Decimal System, which I've used every single day since. It's also Nobel Prize Day, but I feel really, though, we need to remind for the elders who listen to the show that it is Dewey Decimal System Day
Starting point is 00:02:44 because who didn't fucking grow up having to learn how to use a card catalog or pretending to know how to use a card catalog do we think they're like they probably don't teach that anymore right that's like kurt that's gone the way of cursive as like just something they no longer have to teach and teach i have young people i've not set foot in an academic context, facility, anything since 2007. So I know in 2007, they were like, hey, y'all need to know how to use a research library. And there is some do-we-do-do going on there. Do-we-do-do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Magnum P. Zeit. That is courtesy of Diogenes the Critic. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Oh, you know who it is. It's just your favorite stoner from North Hollywood, and you know him as the
Starting point is 00:03:38 one and only Hideo Noho, because he's twisting up that fucking backwoods like Hideo's windup. Shout out to me for not looking at Discord. There you go. But you know what it is? I do know what it is.
Starting point is 00:03:53 It's Friday. It's Friday. It is Friday. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny stand-up comedian, writer, podcaster, producer, one of our all-time favorite TVZ guests. You've seen her on MTV, E!, Comedy Central. Her stand-up album, Opinion Cave, debuted at number one on iTunes,
Starting point is 00:04:13 and her podcast, Lady to Lady, is just one of the best out there. She's performed everywhere from a basement in Kentucky to the stages of the Kennedy Center. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Brandy Posey! Oh shit. Hey everybody.
Starting point is 00:04:33 What's happening? Thank you. I love hearing my credits read to me before noon. It feels nice. Start your day with that. Can I tell you guys, while you were talking about the Dewey Decimal System, I looked it up and it was invented by a man named melvin dewey which is the cutest name in the world and it's really cute it's really my name is melvin dewey it's like a duck or something yeah yeah and on like on the wikipedia page it has like the history and it
Starting point is 00:05:01 has like 1873 1885 early development period of adoption 1885 to 1894 and then 1942 to present forging an identity so it's just trying to figure out who it is now in a post in a post world where we don't need them anymore it's very going through a little midlife crisis and then yeah we'll descend into irrelevance you know still use it, though. Some still use it. And other libraries are starting to argue that maybe it's time for a change. Yeah. Can you imagine how mad you would be
Starting point is 00:05:32 as a librarian that had been using it and committed it to memory for 40 years of your career? And then they're like, Google comes in, and you're like, excuse me? That's like taxi drivers that used to know the city in their head. And then Google Maps showed up. They're like, uh-uh. I know how to get around this city.
Starting point is 00:05:49 How dare you? Isn't that still like a test in some cities, though? Like if you're going to ride for the city's taxi thing, you can't be fucking. You have to have a very solid knowledge. Or is that just something I heard in a London cab? I think that's probably true. I know that that is true overseas, in London especially. Because I remember when Uber went over there, they were like, no, we've learned the way that the city looks.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that was like the biggest thing that they're like, don't use Uber. They don't know the city like we do. And I'm like, you know, facts, honestly. Yeah. I'd rather have somebody who would instinctively be like, I will go down this wrong one way to get you there quicker. And there's something about there's like some neurological study or like study of the brains of London cab drivers and like something about that job and like having to know all those paths like makes them some of the best at, I don't know, mental mapping, I guess. OK. some of the like best at i don't know mental mapping i guess okay you know what i i'm just
Starting point is 00:06:46 realizing i had always assumed that the dewey decimal system was created by whoever dewey from the dewey defeats truman headline was because they were both from the the days where everything was in black and white and apparently not the case. Older than that. So, you know. Still interested in it? Am I still interested in the Dewey Decimal System? Despite it not having those origins
Starting point is 00:07:13 that you thought it did? Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. Well, you know, I just feel like the last name Dewey has fallen off. Like we don't have very many famous Deweys. And the history was lousy with them. I'd like to see more in the new century.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah. Come on, Dewey. Dewey, last name, step up. We need a Dewey Bible. Brandy, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about today. The Ghislaine Maxwell prosecution has rested. Brandy, I know that's something that you've been keeping an eye on.
Starting point is 00:07:45 So we're just going to check in with you on like, what does that mean? You've been watching. We're going to talk about the latest quote unquote attack on Kamala Harris. We will, of course, be talking about the biggest news story in America right now. Fox News is Christmas tree hate crime. You know, the attack on our freedom. All of that. Plenty more.
Starting point is 00:08:07 But first, Brandy, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Assisted suicide. I was Googling that this morning. Oh, because of that. Because of that. Did you guys see the Switzerland, the 3D capsule that they just came out with? Yeah. I remember we covered it like when the guy had first debuted it
Starting point is 00:08:26 a few years ago and was saying this could be something to be used for assisted suicide. And then what? This week, it was approved, right? In Switzerland for use? Yeah, it looks like it's approved. It's really futuristic and kind of beautiful and does feel like a thing that future people would kill themselves in.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Right. And it looks like a tanning bed that you can just like wheel around and you look out into the world and um you're gonna put it in a nice field and then just die none of the articles that i have seen about it say that when you die you also shit yourself so you're shitting yourself in like a beautiful capsule middle of a field and i feel bad for whoever has to deal with that afterwards but it won't be your problem anymore well i think at that point if if you've decided that you need that, that way to lessen your burden, then yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:10 maybe shitting yourself is the least of your work. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Somebody else's problem. There you go. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:16 exactly. Someone was like, uh, you're actually don't qualify to be using this machine. It's like, and I just really kind of want to shit. Yeah. Change my mind. change my mind.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Wait, wait, wait, I'm shitting, I'm shitting, I'm shitting. It's too late, sir. So I'm actually not familiar with this. I guess I am because we covered it a couple years ago. But what does the pod, what's the service the pod provides? Is it just like sensory deprivation or something while you're done? No, so it releases nitrogen What's the service the pod provides? Is just like sensory deprivation or something while you're done? No. So it is,
Starting point is 00:09:46 uh, it releases like nitrogen as it also decreases the oxygen very quickly. So you lose consciousness, but there's also like a feeling of euphoria and relaxation. So you're not choking or anything. Oh, that does sound kind of nice. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah. So I'm in. Called it the Sarco machine. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But I was, I saw it on Sarco machine. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But I saw it on Twitter. I saw people being like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And I was like, let me go read about this. We're just 3D printing everything at this point. We're 3D printing coffins and guns and heart valves. I mean, who knew the printer was going to have this kind of a revolution and a renaissance in this part of the 21st century? Well, yeah. And it's also part of this 21st century well yeah and it also you know this it's also part of this larger discussion about your right to die and and what what you're what
Starting point is 00:10:32 you should be able to access or experience as you go into your final stages of life because so many you know a huge push has been around like psychedelics and how that's really helped people with terminal illnesses come to sort of grips and begin to have a feeling of acceptance around their you know but their end their end of life scenario but then you have like municipalities where they're like what you're gonna you're gonna arrest like an 80 year old person who's like dying because they did mushrooms like yeah what are we what's what are we doing here exactly yeah so this is all just um you know part of part of this new i think just very necessary discussion that we've
Starting point is 00:11:11 been having not having for many years yeah well and it's interesting because it's like if we remove the fear of death from people like death means like going to hell or heaven to so many people that are religious too then it's also like how are we able to control the masses and make them keep giving money and keep them you know supplicant in so many different ways too so it's a very it's an extremely empowering thing to give people the possibility to right yeah 3d printers could solve like most of the world's problems but unfortunately the ink is too expensive yeah printer joke for anybody that's ever had a printer.
Starting point is 00:11:46 These damn refills keep running out. These damn refills. What's something you think is overrated? Being a good bowler. Oh, shit. I also think being underrated is being a bad bowler. I think it's fun to go
Starting point is 00:12:02 and see people just be shitty at a bowling alley. When you show up with your little glove and you got your little leg doing your little thing, everyone's just having fun and seeing their friends. We don't need you to have your whole rig here. Right. Just coming in being like, who do you think you are? I am. Yeah, I was just going to say, the important thing is that you celebrate, is that you learn beat for beat that guy's celebration. And then you do it every time that you roll, even when it's a straight gutter. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And I went bowling last night for the first time in, I mean, literally years. left there was like several very serious people who like would also like stop and like very annoyingly wait for like me to go because god forbid two of us roll a ball at the same time or something you're fucking up my approach yeah and then to my right were the two most adorable like little like queer high school goths that were just like bowling so badly and like their arms were so thin and frail they could barely get the ball down the aisle broken wrist every roll yes and i was like they're having a delightful time they're eating they're like a bowling alley is about eating a plate of like cold french fries and drinking it's the only place you can drink something out of a styrofoam cup in 2021 i think
Starting point is 00:13:19 right and yeah i just was like with cfcs in them like they're like i didn't even know they made styrofoam with cfcs anymore i thought we stopped in the 80s and 90s that they're not a boarding alley boarding port stockpiled at the old bowling alley yeah i'm terrible at bowling so i i embrace the shitty bowling fun of bowling because like i just i just go for all kinds of shit like i don't know any technique i will i will use sometimes in a panic i'll try and like watch a youtube video before and be like why am i always fucking up like and i realize my release is always across my body so i'm always throwing it into the gutter yeah so like the thing i'm always having to remember is that straight
Starting point is 00:14:01 straight release but even then i just don't give a fuck after a while. And I'm just being like, let me see how fucking hard I can throw this shit down and see if I can get anything to happen. Yeah. Absolutely. And it's just like, do a little granny bowl from time to time. I like to throw it down and then turn around and not look at it and then know that it's going to be
Starting point is 00:14:19 a gutter ball. Steph Curry that shit? Yeah. It just feels real nice to lean into it. Embrace your failure, baby. It's Yeah. It just feels real nice to lean into it. Embrace your failure, baby. It's good. Yeah. Just roll it. Turn around like you just already knew.
Starting point is 00:14:34 You fucking threw a strike and do the, who do you think you are? I am. Right. You're doing that shit from the opening scene in Kingpin where Woody Harrelson is doing a split right before it hits the pins and he's like, yeah. Perfect. Exactly. That's what I want to see at a bowling alley i want to see unearned hubris right right we're bowling alley but like bowling birthday parties like pretty normal for everybody
Starting point is 00:14:54 in like the 90s right i felt like that was always like a very standard type of birthday and that was probably the birthdays that caused me the most anxiety because like more than our kids. No, no, no. I don't give a fuck about a pool party. Wow. Have you seen miles? Come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Have you seen me? I had I had a doughy body since since childhood and I wasn't really buying into these body image shit. So I was just I was like, fuck it. I'm aware of this scuba mask and stay at the bottom of the pool and freak the parents out. But the at a bowling thing, because I remember just like being more competitive as a kid. And there's always like those couple kids who are really good. And then like you start being like, why can't I fucking roll it like Brandon does? Always named Brandon. Did I ever tell you, tell the story on here about when I got like too high and i got into this like weird mental block
Starting point is 00:15:46 i was bowling and i was really trying to do good bowling and i just couldn't get it to even like the first set of arrows like it would go directly into the thing it was like i had like some alien limb syndrome that was just like really bad at bowling. It was a real mind fuck. Oh, man. Everybody. Were you just like after the third one, you're like, come on. Like sweating. Like, I don't know what's happening.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I'm like the people like at first thought I was joking. And then, yeah, it was one of the worst the most it was the weirdest like physical kind of experience I've ever had because just you know I'm not normally very good at bowling but yeah it was just a very strange thing it was like a Chuck Knobloch moment or you know where a Mark Markel Fultz I guess would be the more modern Gil Hodges. Yeah. Go even further back.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Man, I just remember the first bowling party that we went to as kids that like, I think it was everybody's first time without the bumpers and we just all failed. We were like, why? Bring the bumpers back. You're like third graders or something, just like learning about how cruel the world could actually be for the first time.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yeah. Yeah. I think i had the opposite of you when i was like at the height of my like drug use in college i had i never had better bowling games than those times yeah i mean me too like or when i was like drunk like that's why i i assumed that i would have been like for most of my life, I was just better when I was drunk or smoking weed. But this time was just like, I couldn't,
Starting point is 00:17:29 it was very weird. I couldn't steer out of it. Yeah. I would just, I don't know what it was, but I think I quite literally had to go out of body chemically to be able to bowl just in a straight line. But there were some epic ones.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I remember at lucky strike in Hollywood, I was, but dad, straight line but there were some epic ones i remember at lucky strike in hollywood i was but dad and i fucking almost i like i rolled like a 250 or some shit yeah like what really yeah it was like yo and like meanwhile like i was spilling drinks on myself and shit wow but there was something about that like the music you know, like rock and roll bowling type shit where like there's music to turn up to. It just helped me find another gear. Yeah, yeah. But luckily, I've realized not as important to me.
Starting point is 00:18:15 So I've managed to throttle back the drug use. All right. Let's take a quick break. We're going to come back, talk about Ghislaine Maxwell and other stories. We'll be right back. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game.
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Starting point is 00:19:32 This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.
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Starting point is 00:21:54 And we're back. And Ghislaine Maxwell's prosecution has rested. We've been checking in with this story every once in a while but haven't been like kind of following it on a day-to-day basis but brandy it does sound like you've been kind of tracking it so what does this mean well me and my roommate we every night we've so there's a great podcast called true and none of nobody's listening to it yeah they're they're delightful and me and my roommate every night they've been dropping daily episodes and we turn on our fake fire and we just sit and listen to the reporting from the day. And then I go and I yell at Twitter about it, which feels great.
Starting point is 00:22:31 So the prosecution is rested, which feels very fast. But you have to remember that the scope of the trial against Ghislaine is very different than what the case would be with Epstein. They're trying to go after her specifically for the trafficking charges and things like that. So they can't really get into the full broad web because the further they get from her, the more doubt they can sow in the jury. So they're being very, very focused on like, they have four victims that have a given testimony
Starting point is 00:23:00 and have all been very moving from all reports. And they've had like corroborating witnesses to all of their stories come in and basically been like, this is how we met her. This is how we interacted with her and trying to like place her in the minutiae of Epstein's day-to-day life as much as possible. So that I think is like why it went as quickly as it, as it has for the prosecution. The big witnesses, they had like two at the four, the four witnesses, like the four victims victims and then there's been two pilots that flew the Lolita Express
Starting point is 00:23:28 and then a lot of little people here and there as well that like worked in the houses and like ex-boyfriends and stuff like that but her demeanor has changed over the course of the days for the first few days she was very like looking around the trial and stuff but I guess
Starting point is 00:23:43 when the third victim especially gave her statement, and she was one of the lower class girl from Florida that really was in it for the money and was really manipulated a lot. I mean, they all were, but she was very much like, I don't have a family, $300 a pop. Like, I'm not here for a life, you know. Ghislaine had her like head down and was hiding it and stuff. So I think, I'm hoping that, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:04 her change of attitude means that she feels like she's big she's pretty fucked right the jury has also seen a lot of things that are redacted from public or like won't be entered into the record like publicly for people to see and that includes a lot of videos and photos and nobody really knows what's on those so i think i'm hope i mean you, it's probably obviously horrible shit. So hopefully that is enough to, the prosecution feels that their case has been made enough. The defense starts up, I think, next Thursday. They have like a week off. And that is going to, I think, get very messy and very difficult to hear about because they're about to try to, you know, tear all these victims apart. Yeah, go after them. And it's like, from listening to all the coverage, it's so interesting that the way that defense attorneys are in court, where they just try to, like, still slut shame you and all this shit, it's so crazy because it feels so hacked,
Starting point is 00:24:54 but it still is 100% how this shit happens. Right. And you're like, how? This is the only trick in your fucking book. Yeah. I remember, like, just from the opening statement, that was the part I caught. And when the defense attorney came out,
Starting point is 00:25:08 I was like, Whoa, we're going there. Like ever since the time of Adam and Eve, women have been blamed for like, yeah. Okay. And then like this woman was in cahoots with these other people.
Starting point is 00:25:19 It really felt, but again, I guess that's the only thing you have. If you're trying to, you know, by any means necessary, act like you didn if you're trying to you know by any means necessary act like you didn't do some shit that you actually did for sure well and it feels like glaine is very involved in in the defense as well like she's like writing notes to them and seems i
Starting point is 00:25:36 mean which i think is ultimately gonna hopefully hurt her because she they they haven't presented a clear argument yet like they're saying she's a victim as well, but also she won't let herself be seen as a victim. So it's like, well, you were involved, but you weren't involved, but Jeffrey was your boyfriend, but he was also a victim of her. So her pride is getting in the way of all of this.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Right. And then there's also, yeah, it's like she was involved, but if she was, these people are in it for the money and like the actually she's a feminist and she deserves your sympathy like it's it's like a bunch of over like i feel like usually the prosecution will present can like present a number of different like reasons for why the person might be guilty and the defense has to be like kind of focused i feel like but this time it's like the defense is like i don't know here like five different options like maybe yeah one of those she barely like loved him and like i don't know
Starting point is 00:26:38 like and they're they're haters actually so i don't know jury like whatever you want to do with that exactly i think it's it's really yeah it what at which point did she shift to mean mugging the sketch artist and then battling the sketch artist for their like because that was the interesting thing i was kind of picking up on was that i think what was at the end of last week she had very much been like i am now going to sketch the sketch artist sketching me. Yeah, I read an interview with that sketch artist actually on Rolling Stone because I was like, what the hell? And she said that like Ghislaine has like turned around and like talked to her and been like lovely weather outside a few times. Like she's like clearly I think she's like Ghislaine has like got weird like love addict love bombing tendencies where she's just trying to like ingratiate people around her constantly to herself because apparently she um she like hugs and like kisses her lawyers on the cheek
Starting point is 00:27:28 when she sees them every day and stuff and it's like very weird she's just needs she physical contact is like very important to her because she's a disgusting rapist right but yeah it it's interesting it's uh her her sister and one of her brothers have been in court every day to be there watching and she is permitted to actually talk to them before everything starts which is something that most defendants aren't actually allowed to do which is strange wow i already seen some benefits huh yeah one thing that did come out yesterday that was really interesting is that like there is a new flight logs have leaked out and Ghislaine and Jeffrey were on a flight together before her dad died, which like her dad, Ghislaine Maxwell's dad is this guy named Robert Maxwell. Robert Maxwell was like a huge spy for London and like the Israeli Bazaar and everything and was like very suspiciously murdered on his boat.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And before he was like thrown off his boat and murdered, there's like there's never been a connection with Jeffrey and Ghislaine beforehand. But this shows their relationship goes back even before that happened. And a big thing that Robert Maxwell did is he kind of moved a lot of money around and made it disappear for a lot of rich people, which is also something that Jeffrey Epstein did. So it's interesting that her dad might be how the two of them were connected in the first place. And that line has never been drawn really before right a lot of people suspect that epstein was you know a cia operative or at least like used by the cia worked with the cia so uh it makes sense that like they're all moving in the same circles manipulating very powerful people helping them out uh yeah it's fucking disgusting but hopefully i mean it doesn't seem like she could have come off much worse just based on the descriptions and
Starting point is 00:29:15 of her in court behavior i don't think so and i mean the only thing that does make me nervous is that's like they clearly like they'd been putting together a case for jeffrey epstein forever and then they obviously he was he was murdered uh and they're using the bones of that and they're putting galane in and then changing it as needed so i i think that they're really kind of hitting her from as many sides as possible but clearly i mean the whole thing just it makes it such it's so frustrating that he's not on trial because there's so many other things you could be talking about that would actually like help her if you talk about but actually like should be you know made entered into the public record in a very official way through his trial all right well thank you for
Starting point is 00:29:59 that update and thank you for you know doing the sin eating for us of paying attention to that fucking trial. Don't worry. I have a pillow on my couch. I've just been like ringing and screaming. All right. Let's talk about Kamala Harris. Politico has a guess. This is like a hit piece or something.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Oh, they got her ass. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Canceled. Canceled. Done. Politico doing the fucking Lord's work of meaningless nonsense journalism. I just want to read this headline of this article that came out earlier this week.
Starting point is 00:30:37 It said, Kamala Harris is Bluetooth phobic. Huh? What? What does that even mean? Like she discriminates against Bluetooth users? She has an exclusive after people, somebody with a Bluetooth, right? Does she have like an exclusive Beats by Dre deal that doesn't allow her to use non wired headphones? Like what is happening exactly? And this is what they say, quote, while a growing number of consumers are
Starting point is 00:31:03 going wireless, the vice president is sticking with the classics. She has long felt that Bluetooth headphones are a security risk. As a result, Harris insists on using wired headphones. Three former campaign aides told West Wing Playbook. OK, is that not fair? Is that not fit for office? I mean, like, huh? Well, let's go on.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Let me, let me, they go, okay, that, okay. Politico's thinking, all right, that wasn't enough for you. Allow us to maybe expand on this. Former aides say that the vice president has long been careful about security and technology, with some describing it as prudent and others suggesting it is a bit paranoid. It's a recurring theme. And they talk about how when she was, oh, this is another one. And another former aide, when she was Attorney General in California,
Starting point is 00:31:50 said that when a person arrived for a meeting, staff were instructed not to allow them to wait in Harris' office alone. Okay. What the fuck is this article? This is, she's the new Richard Nixon. Yeah. I'm not the biggest Kamala Harris fan, as most listeners of this show know. But, like, what the fuck is this exactly?
Starting point is 00:32:10 What is the point? I'm really curious. The fucking, quote, unquote, journalists who did this. What was this piece adding? What did we need to know about this? Because they made, they, like, did a collage of all these photos of her wearing like wired apple headphones and they're like look at her dude like she's got these like wired headphones on and i think part of it is probably some uh anti-black woman bias and they're just finding some shit to
Starting point is 00:32:36 just be like fuck it man she doesn't she hates bluetooth i guess that's something we can say to try and make her look different from the mainstream but i'm not even like i don't even this is just so weird because if that's who gives a shit about what her like her priorities are around like opsec like operational security if she if she thinks bluetooth she's not comfortable with like who gives a fuck like i just help me somebody also understand yeah they're they're using quotes from like former aides and like staffers what like i just ask like a security expert is this like over over the top or not they don't because it it is you can yeah you can be hacked like yeah what has anyone has anyone met like a older person or like even an older person of color?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah. People, you know, I have aunts and uncles who have thoughts around ops, their own operational security. Like, I don't use that shit. I don't like that my car, I can't use that physical key on that because you don't know what's going to happen. Like, this seems very normal to me. But again, this was just like part of a, I don't know, clickbait failure over at Politico. I feel like after a former secretary of state's private email server was hacked in a basement,
Starting point is 00:33:52 maybe we should be a little bit more paranoid than not. Like maybe, maybe it's okay to use headphones. It's fine. Also, it's like this, this feels like it's either stupid or it's like weirdly nefarious because it gets to paint her because everyone knows that this is stupid so it's also like oh we're attacking her
Starting point is 00:34:11 unfairly for no reason and if we're attacking her unfairly for this then maybe real things that she is being fairly attacked for we're also attacking her unfairly for you know what i mean so it gives her weird cover for like oh everyone's just being just being, you know, sexist and racist. And they did it for the Bluetooth stuff. So they're also doing it for, you know, X, Y and Z. Or like immigration stuff. Whatever. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:32 So it's like there's it's yeah, there's it's lose lose all around. It's like it's almost like clickbait journalism is destroying everything. Yeah. Well, meanwhile, like we're looking at, you know, just the most some of them like, no, not some like the most aggressive moves towards voter suppression we've seen. Yes. In our lived memory. And meanwhile, we're devoting inches and coverage to like this Bluetooth thing, because I mean, this is something we've talked about or just mentioned touched on, too, is just that this is just all like the media's huge hand in allowing all of this shit to just crumble by the wayside.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Because that has an inability to actually say like, hey, man, the country's really fucked up right now. And like shit's going to get fucking terrible if we don't get a hold of like just just the most basic voting rights yeah to start off with but instead we're talking about fucking you know why doesn't she have airpods yeah and i think people like see this and it tunes in it's frustrating because it tunes people out from like paying attention to the news more and more because you're like i'm not even seeing anything real and this is what it is it's like i saw there's this morning that i mean it's unrelated to this specifically but i saw this morning that it was like a pfizer ceo was like i think we're gonna need the fourth shot even faster than the third one and i was like can we
Starting point is 00:35:52 just like not talk to these people can you just yeah shut the like i just i i hate the news and it's so frustrating because it also gives like people that say all news is fake news, like even more and more ammo. Because I'm just like, yeah, I also I get where you're coming from with half of this shit because this is this is a bullshit story. Get out of the way. Yeah. All news is fucking coward news. No one wants to fucking say the thing past. Don't go like rather than saying like, I don't know, this fucking pharma grifter says we should give him more money.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah. Like that's that's just should give him more money. Yeah. Like that's that's just treat that quote like that. Yeah, exactly. Have a more holistic, you know, reporting around saying things like this is how much Pfizer and Moderna have made. This is how much Pfizer stands to make from their therapeutics that they're developing. therapeutics that they're developing there's so many other things that you can be like telling people real things while also giving them an actual accounting of what the stakes are what the dynamics are around the story because all they do is just give you this shit in a vacuum no context and if you're not paying attention you're gonna think nothing's wrong nothing's
Starting point is 00:36:58 you know gone awry at all yeah the worst thing is that kamala doesn't use headphones that are you know bluetooth that are cool the worst thing yeah the worst thing is there are people dying for their first shot of a vaccine but we've we've entrusted this with just greedy fucking goblins yeah and just only focusing like well yeah in america maybe you should get that third or fourth like i think there is i truly think there's a direct line between like shit like this and the vaccine and vaccine hesitancy because the mainstream media is fully bought into the whole corporate neoliberal ideal that is killing people, that is making us the loneliest we've ever been like that has completely taken over how we communicate with one another and like turned it like so that people are going to react negatively to that and the mainstream media just has a complete like inability to cope with that and there is already a reactionary kind of option on the right and And so that's why things are moving so fucking out of
Starting point is 00:38:28 control in that direction. And the left hasn't really figured out its alternative strategy. Right. Well, I mean, I think that's why you need more independent media and also just like for people to demand that these people actually say something that
Starting point is 00:38:43 is counter to what their corporate benefactors dictate to them. Right. Like it's that you can't, it's like, cause you, you already know, like we already know that if on MSNBC, they said, we need to actually be breaking down how much money is being made and like also put people in the front of their mind. Because the most important thing about getting through this pandemic globally is to have as many people inoculated as possible. But if we're not hammering home that that's a problem and that there's also there's corporate
Starting point is 00:39:13 greed, national, there's like this weird nationalistic fucking greed that's happening with who's being shared with what, if that's not being talked about, then there's no context. And yeah, it's just why, why fucking pay attention? Because it's just going to sound like a bunch of, you know, chaos constantly. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. I think that at the end of the day, like, I think you'd hope that more and more people
Starting point is 00:39:35 rather than just being like, man, the fucking news is fake. It's not that it's fake. It's that it's being presented to you by people who don't even live on the same fucking planet as you. You know what I mean? Like, we're getting the weather on Mars and being told that that's the temperature on Earth. But no. These people live in a completely different reality, completely divorced from the existential threats that most working people or marginalized people face.
Starting point is 00:40:00 So to expect them to actually come with a real proper accounting of what's happening, I think is just an impossible task at this point. For sure. And we just see that over and over. Yeah, and it's like, that's also how you see a story like this come out, because I can guarantee you this story happened because a bunch of people were at drinks after
Starting point is 00:40:20 the office in D.C. with a few reporters and they were like, you know, I heard about Kamala. She doesn't do this headphone thing. And then, because they're all boring and stupid, they all talk about it because they got nothing real in their lives. And then that's how it becomes a story. They're like, oh, you don't believe, Google
Starting point is 00:40:36 it. Okay, remember when she says, we did it, Joe? Wired headphones. Okay. When she did this thing, wired headphones. You're like, oh shit! He's right. Yeah. Fucking always wired headphones. You're like, oh, shit, he's right. Yeah. Fucking always wired headphones. Yeah, you could feel the wine glass in their hand as they're like, oh, this is an interesting little ball that was discovered.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Did you guys read the Jeremy Strong profile in The New Yorker that everybody was like, this guy is absurd? No, I haven't read it yet it's so he is like a lot but it gave me this like very strong feeling that this one also gives me that it's like journalism as cool kids making fun of like a dork like yeah where like the the writer of the new yorker profile like first disclosure jeremy strong it plays kendall roy yeah sorry sorry yeah that should be disclosed not expecting everyone to be like oh yeah jeremy strong yeah so kendall wrote like the piece is like he takes himself very seriously as an actor doesn't realize the show succession is a comedy is like what you mean like in the sense that checkoff's a comedy and they're like
Starting point is 00:41:46 no in the sense that it's like funny but it's just like a lot of like quotes from the people who work with him that are like this guy's real real annoying but it's also like written by somebody who went to yale with him so like it's like probably someone who's just like this guy fucking he's lame let's write it just i don't know for me another guy went to yale right yeah i'm not trying to hate but you know it's all peace it's like i don't give a fuck about this like what i don't know it's entertaining like how seriously he takes himself but i also feel like i don't know this idea of like the media as just the cool kids making fun of and the cool kids in the sense of they're not actually cool but like they're the
Starting point is 00:42:32 the popular kids making fun of right fucking people who are dorks just yeah feels again like could we possibly make the mainstream media more hateable? Right. I think they've every time I think that they've like cracked the ceiling, I'm like, oh, no, there's a whole nother floor. I didn't even realize it. Very darling. I'll hold my wine glass. Yeah. And it's just like fill pages and shit, because it's also like we love Daniel Day-Lewis for that shit.
Starting point is 00:42:59 The exact same thing. You're like, oh, DDL like became Abraham Lincoln. Cool. Yeah, but he's like a poser. He wants to be Daniel Day-Lewis. That's legitimately. He idolizes Daniel Day-Lewis and follows him around and apprentices under him. Yeah. But it's just like...
Starting point is 00:43:16 Wait, Jeremy Strong does? That's in there? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He's like from the time he was in high school, he's been obsessed with Daniel Day-Lewis and Dustin Hoffman and all the... the time he was like in high school he's been obsessed with daniel day lewis and dustin hoffman and like all the you know if anything it just sounds like this article just says bro no better
Starting point is 00:43:30 person could play kendall roy than jeremy strong that's right like and that is the argument they're like right like more than anything this man's living it yeah good or bad right so yeah that's the whole damn point and how dare somebody like, really work hard and not put everything they have into their dream? You know, what a loser. And then just succeed in it. I just couldn't get past the feeling that, like, this is, like, one Yale guy making fun of another Yale guy. It's like, ugh. Oh, definitely.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I bet I wouldn't like this writer either. They probably showed up with, like with the same cable net sweater to a party one time and just held it against him forever because he looked better in it. He's like, I should have been doing push-ups this week. Exactly. If Crew hadn't been canceled on Wednesday, my arms would be
Starting point is 00:44:17 looking great. Instead I look doughy. Doughy decimal system. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest.
Starting point is 00:44:43 This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing.
Starting point is 00:45:04 It was so beautiful. I'm, my reaction is shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months.
Starting point is 00:45:41 These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Substance use disorder and addiction is so isolating. And so as a Black woman in recovery, hope must be loud.
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Starting point is 00:47:32 would not. Like why? That was one of those moments where you're just like, oh wow. It was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you. No worries. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I think that the story
Starting point is 00:48:03 that everybody's kind of monitoring around the clock right now is the fallout from Christmas tree gate. I don't know what to call it, how to turn the fact that somebody lit the Fox News Christmas it can be completely blown apart into the new 9-11. And I think most people don't need to think too hard as to why someone would want to shit on Fox's Christmas tree. And again, knowing that this person was just like, just a straight up arsonist, really not even like, he's like, oh, that was the Fox trees. Like, honestly, I just get off on set and shit on fire, fire to be honest with you that was just kind of bonus watch the world burn so you know but again fox immediately made it about not just some random person who is an arsonist setting fire to their tree that this was an attack on america and you can tell that all this liberal stuff that's happening is leading to this. So first, let us let us pray at the at the altar of Fox and Friends, because the morning it happened,
Starting point is 00:49:13 they truly were just just listen to their like sort of their description of what this tree actually stands for. But think about it. Who, to Ainsley's earlier point, who sets a Christmas tree on fire? It's a tree that unites us, that brings us together. It's about the Christmas spirit. It is about the holiday season. It's about Jesus. It's about Hanukkah. It is about everything that we stand for as a country, freedom and being able to worship the way that you want to worship. It makes me so mad. Well, it does, but it goes to the larger issue of safety. And we have been talking for a very long time. This city has gone south when it comes to safety.
Starting point is 00:49:52 We don't feel safe when we come to work in the morning. We don't feel safe when we go home at night. Maybe not because of the things you're saying on TV? It might have more to do with y'all than anything are you gonna tell me they're not getting picked up and dropped dropped off in a black car service oh but they that doesn't change how unsafe they feel right the car is drivers of former yeah exactly or or their driver is a cop who was you know kicked off the force for like using excessive force or something like that oh and that's my driver and And I still feel unsafe.
Starting point is 00:50:27 This guy has a history of brutalizing poor people. And I still feel unsafe in this town. Again, I just want to say shout out to all the Jewish people. Hanukkah just wrapped up recently. And shout out to all y'all. I'm sure it was fun putting away your Hanukkah tree for next year's Hanukkah. Because that's what this... I mean, what a fucking stretch. But just as Hanukkah is that's what this I mean what a fucking stretch but like
Starting point is 00:50:45 just as Hanukkah is going to wrap up there someone's going to light the Fox News Christmas tree the number one emblem of Hanukkah on fire maybe they thought it was the last candle maybe they thought the tree was the last candle in their menorah that's fair I mean again as we
Starting point is 00:51:02 all know the tree is about season it's about Jesus which again means that it inherently means it's about Hanukkah. Okay. Because because Jesus was Jewish. Okay, I'm going to use that logic there for this Fox and Friends piece. But also like it the coverage didn't obviously this was like around the clock outrage machine on Wednesday and Thursday. So later on in the day, they had this other guy come on who was like, like, cause their whole thing is, I think they're like, we really need to be setting the table with the viewers. Like this tree is fucking important. Like,
Starting point is 00:51:32 of course. And we, it can't just be that some fucking guy burned it down. So I just want to hear another man, Lawrence Jones, an unfortunate black man who's on Fox news, letting people know also what he thinks, what this tree fucking means, you know, to everybody. This tree, this was America's tree.
Starting point is 00:51:52 A lot of our audience come across from all across the country and even in our international audience to come see that tree. It was a moment of unity. And look, this appears to be a guy that was a repeat offender that had a criminal uh record and a guy that just wanted to set something on fire so although he wasn't specifically targeting fox news he was targeting the country wow stretch it out larry stretch it out baby did you feel the wheel and the panic of letting a fact come through and he was like no no no pull it back in like they tried to stop him they were like no no no we have to say
Starting point is 00:52:30 it was an attack against us right although it wasn't against fox news it wasn't specifically to do with anything it was attacking the country yeah yeah the 9-11 of christmas 100 percent anyways christmas night and then you know the whole time they're like we gotta rebuild it you know they're saying shit like we gotta build it back even bigger and better like this ain't the fucking twin towers but again they're doing their darnedest to make this a thing and throughout the day you've heard things like about bail like this has something to do with bail reform and all kinds of other shit. Someone fucking connected it to Waukesha and the guy who was let out on bail and be like, it's like a very similar thing that we have here.
Starting point is 00:53:13 We're letting people out and we don't know what's going to happen. And using this Christmas tree to go even harder on it. So I'm assuming they just then transitioned into a long story about the need for better funding for mental health resources in New York City. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. Sadly, later in the day means the fucking creeps come on.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Yeah. As in Tucker and Sean Hannity and them. Yeah. And they said, okay, y'all get it that tree's important now allow us to introduce some new ideas maybe maybe this isn't just any kind of attack here's fucker farls carlson or whatever yeah let's blow it out even further torching christmas trees is an attack on christianity obviously it's an assault on religious observance. By current standards, destroying someone's religious symbol would be called a hate crime. That's a category much
Starting point is 00:54:11 beloved and meticulously chronicled by the Biden Justice Department. The DOJ can tell you precisely how many Korans were burned last year in the United States, but they don't keep track of Christmas trees. Why is that? the christmas tree is on the fucking bible you fucking stooge for starters nice try it's not a religious text it's a fucking tree also i think the only other christmas trees that i've ever seen burned have been in like idiots homes on episodes of ridiculousness yeah like or like it's like a shitty shitty prank you'd see on college campuses as you burn out a car by putting a dead christmas tree underneath it and lighting it on fire look i've been at a few
Starting point is 00:54:51 sports riots it happens but man that's where i see now to say that this is a symbol of religion we've already they just established on earlier in the day they said said it had to do with Hanukkah. Right. So is it Christianity or is it Judaism? Is it Uchiwali or is it one Mike Tucker Carlson? Also mentioned that it wasn't somebody targeting anything other than a big thing that would go up in flames really. What do you guys think the over on? Honestly, I have an idea. If anyone lives in New York, I live too far away, I can't do this. What you should do is go down to the Fox tree and make like one of those, you know, like a thin blue line flag, but put Christmas trees across the line.
Starting point is 00:55:35 You're going to make so much money just selling it to those idiots. Like that'll be like this. It'll be just like after like the Twin Towers stuff after 9-11 where people were just hawking shit on the corner. Go be that person. Go make that money and then donate it to something that Fox News would hate. Yeah. Thin tree line posters and flags. They're coming.
Starting point is 00:55:52 We need the thin tree line. Yeah. Sadly. So just to touch in really quickly, just on Sean Hannity there. He didn't really say much. I just like whenever we hear Janine Pirro might be drinking on the job and doesn't know if she's talking to Sean Hannity or Geraldo. In this case, she's on Sean Hannity's show. And Geraldo is like on the dais there or that panel, but Sean Hannity is clearly throwing to her. You know, Geraldo, what is amazing about all this is that you start your show every night
Starting point is 00:56:21 with hostages in a foreign country. Well, I'm here to tell you that Americans are now hostage. He said Geraldo. No worries. But it's, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sean, that we have hostages. Okay, sure. She looked so confused when he told her it was not, it's not Geraldo. What was the connection to, she was was gonna say that this is our values being
Starting point is 00:56:45 held hostage probably that american culture yeah right is the hostage now and you can't even you can't even have a fucking christmas tree up at your hate network right have something happen but not even that it had nothing to do with your network you can't just have a tree up and some person with a history of arson shows up to do a crime that they have a bit of an eye for. And then lastly, I just want to say Fox News again, this on Thursday morning, after we got that round the clock coverage, they kept the outrage up Thursday morning with Brian Kilmeade again, raising the point of, morning with Brian Kilmeade again, raising the point of, is this not a hate crime?
Starting point is 00:57:31 It's unbelievable. He wasn't eligible for the bail under this, these new liberal reform laws. That's right. But the judge would, could have found a way to keep him locked up if he felt as though he was a threat to society. Note to judge, he's a threat to society. Well, here's the thing in New York under the new liberal policies of bail reform arson is only a felony you can only be held if it's a felony if the suspect tries to harm a person or commits a hate crime and apparently lighting a christmas tree on fire is not a hate crime but it is a lot of people could have been injured yeah here and but here's the thing. Who says it's not a hate crime against us? Against Fox News? Fox News is a protected group
Starting point is 00:58:14 that needs to be... We need to watch out. Who's going to look out for that? Exactly. It's a hate crime. I mean, that's the most peak white fragility shit ever, though, to be like, I mean, this is a hate crime against us. They god they're so desperate for any christian persecution to make christianity like get get to cosplay as a persecuted minority like that is what that is what they like crave so much i can see them actually claiming that the KKK... Hitler killed them in the Holocaust?
Starting point is 00:59:07 Yeah, or that the KKK is actually, when they burn crosses, that is because they're mad. Jack, don't even... Oh, my God. It's too much logic. It's too much... They can't put those little things together. I preemptively got upset for them. And just be like,
Starting point is 00:59:21 we don't know who's burning these crosses. Well, they don't know who's inside the hood. Who knows that actual racists are inside of those hoods doing that. It could be. Thank you. Also, where's my dad? He said he had to do something tonight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Probably not him, though. Probably not him there. Definitely not him there. But, I mean, this is just sort of part of, you know, I think the compartmentalization that has to happen when you're a conservative is because to even linger into the dimension of reality where you may need to bring a little self-awareness to what you're espousing or what your values actually mean to people that don't look like you, that they're going to be able to paint that like when jesus came back he came back a second time but like as santa claus like he just got old and fat and came back a second time and then that santa claus is actually jesus right that it wasn't like sure it wasn't three days from the cross to the tomb that is actually more like kind of like 30 years he kind of let himself go and came back yeah i
Starting point is 01:00:25 really feel like because they're they're they want to connect it because they need it they need christianity to get to capitalism even more directly right i can't you know it'll it'll happen in my lifetime jesus will become santa claus i'm predicting right here i mean they're definitely trying but i think that's the hard bit is like they're using this. They're trying to like sort of air draft, like slipstream behind Christianity for all this. When Christianity and just organized religion in general in this country is just not a winning thing at all. No. So it just so it just begins to sound weaker. The arguments are like weaker and more illogical and less compelling.
Starting point is 01:01:02 But again, this isn't for people who are trying who are neutral and neutral and like, well, let me hear what they have to say. It's just for other people to be like, well, how am I going to yell about this later to some co-workers who watch CNN? Yeah. Do you think that they're going to like, people are going to start showing up and like camping out with guns defending the fox tree from now until Christmas? I could see that happening. Oh, there's probably like snipers already. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Yeah. You know, like, you know, freelance snipers who are just being like, yeah, I'm going to don't worry. I'll protect this tree.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I'll don't, they'll never get this tree from my cold dead hand. Just like my gun. The other dead hand. Yeah. Well, Brandy, as always such a pleasure having you,
Starting point is 01:01:44 where can people find you and follow you you can find me on twitter and instagram at brand dazzle my podcast is called lady to lady comes out every wednesday it's a real nice time with babs gray and tess barker and the fourth guest who's real fun i have an album called opinion cave you can listen to wherever you want but um twitter and instagram are kind of the big ones i post all my shows and stuff up on there. So come on over and say hey. Hey, boom. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:13 So do you guys follow the Twitter account Kids Write Jokes at all? Yeah, I think I've seen some. Yeah. I'm an extremely big fan of theirs. And it's somebody just getting their kids write a joke for them every day and it gets posted on twitter and this is the joke from a couple days ago what did the skeleton say to the toilet uh i don't know what i say you will get nothing out of me i am all bones that made me laugh like an idiot the other day and i was like yeah i also feel like i'm all bones kid you get it really identified with it miles where can people find you with the tweet you've
Starting point is 01:02:54 been enjoying uh you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray and also the other pod for 20 day fiance with sophie alexandra we talk Day Fiance. The first one, it's a video. So I'll just retweet it and you have to check my timeline. But Chadish underscore Gambino, pardon me, tweeted, please, I want so badly for the good things to happen. Sylvia Plath. And then they show this video that's a mashup of like people like slipping and falling but they're cutting it with like vogue battles that you see it like drag balls and so like when people do like death drops they're cutting like a dude on a roller skate going back but then like a dude
Starting point is 01:03:36 hitting a drop and it's fucking amazing editing uh so i love it and then another tweet i like is from uh chanel ganai at chanel ganai g-e-n-a-i i tweeted the african-american urge to yell i know you lying when you witness something incredulous i love this construction of the the blank urge too uh but that one was just laser guided i love it i know you like that's so great a tweet i've been enjoying uh saggy splinters tweeted me i am crushing this workout class the instructor seconds after they walked by me general reminder to everyone to try and push yourselves today oh too real and then this is just a serious one but but straight up Xander Furness tweeted, Reporters, stop reporting the defense budget and single year spending totals and social spending and 10 year spending totals.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Challenge. Yeah, no, it's true. Yeah, that's... Everything is about, yeah. We're not looking at... Oh, I'm sorry. We're not talking about the the history making defense budget yeah no what a strange convention i wonder 200 2.2 trillion over 10 years not 220 billion
Starting point is 01:04:53 a year yeah okay you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? We are going to ride out on just some holiday background music. I've talked about my love of the japanese genre
Starting point is 01:05:25 of bgm just background music because it's just made it's like basically sonic wallpaper you know what i mean it's not interesting enough that you're going to be like oh i like this track it's just setting a mood with instruments and one of my favorites bgm channel is the artist put out a an album called happy Christmas Music, where it's like vaguely familiar sounding Christmas songs. So this one's called Sing Along. And it's by BGM Channel. And it's just again, check out their music because they have all kinds of different vibes. If you just want to feel like you're at a coffee shop or whatever, they have vibes for you like that. If you want something to feel like you're in a cooking show, they have shit like that for you. So anyway, check this out.
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