The Daily Zeitgeist - Fox News VS. LEGOS, JK Rowlings Garbage Podcast 02.24.23

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

In episode 1429, Jack and guest co-host Jacquis Neal are joined by hosts of Digital Folklore, Perry Carpenter and Mason Amadeus, to discuss… Fox News is Mad About ‘Woke’ Lego … Again, Trump Uses Ohio Train Disaster To Hawk His Bottled Water Brand, JK Rowling’s Garbage Podcast Is Out and more! Fox News is Mad About ‘Woke’ Lego … Again Fox News Is Now Mad About ‘Woke’ One-Legged Legos Friendship re-imagined: The LEGO Group reveals a new generation of LEGO® Friends Conservatives are furiously whining that LEGO’s new Pride set is shameful and divisive Trump Uses Ohio Train Disaster To Hawk His Bottled Water Brand Donald Trump, who rolled back rail safety regulations and slashed environmental protections, donates Trump-branded water to East Palestine residents TRUMP FORGETS TO MENTION THE TRAIN SAFETY REGULATIONS HE GUTTED DURING VISIT TO EAST PALESTINE, OHIO Trump Debunked: We fact-check The Donald's outrageous claims JK Rowling’s Garbage Podcast Is Out The National Post dishonours the thousands of missing children in unmarked graves with their biased and distorted views JK Rowling podcast host claims Harry Potter has helped save LGBT+ books LISTEN: Ganja Farmer by Marlon AsherSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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aka it's walton goggins here another ant-man foe i don't enjoy that thought big white teeth and really tan look at this noggin here five head above my nose how about john mayer instead my plumpers are a wonderland that is courtesy of salvador jolly to the tune of hot in here by nelly in case that wasn't clear and in reference to the fact that somebody gave me a walton goggins look like and it ruined my day one time so fair yeah anyway i'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest co-host an award-winning podcast host writer producer tv and film actor voice artist it's jakees jack can you handle this zeitgang can you handle this jakees can you handle this? Zeitgang, can you handle this? Jockeys, can you handle this?

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Because my voice is so bootylicious for you babe oh what up niggas we are here we are back hello everyone i don't think you're ready for this i don't think you're ready for this i don't think we are in rare form today it is black history month still it is so like history month yes far so let's have a moment of silence every white person listening have a moment of silence right now for all your black fallen heroes go ahead right now right now right now hi there it is what's up jack how are you how are you doing all right i'm doing good. It's good to be back, man. Can't complain. It's frigid in Los Angeles.

Bro, I was at the gym, and I'm sure you know this too. Yeah, I'm getting these muscles right for the summer. And it started hailing like crazy. Did you hear that? I didn't hear it, but that makes sense given what the weather is outside la is just yeah we all text each other when it hails once and oh yeah yeah absolutely i'm not gonna lie man i was on the ground doing something like some some hinges or some shit uh or some leg thrusts and it started hailing and i thought it was like a thousand rats like fucking on the ground like running toward i got scared man i thought it was like a thousand rats like fucking on the ground like

running i got scared man i started looking around like what is this happening uh that's how that's how we're such a city reaction such a city must be rats yeah amazing well jakeese we're thrilled to be joined in our third and fourth seats by the hosts of the new podcast, Digital Folklore. Please welcome Perry Carpenter and Mason Amadeus. Welcome to the show, fellas. Man, I was not told to prepare a musical intro like that. You two just killed it. It was amazing.

Thank you. I'm sorry, man. Your name together is Perry Mason. I think you win. You win. Yeah. You win. We're Jack Jackis.

It sounds like somebody yes it sounds like an impressionist painter or something it does like that yeah that should command some high dollar oh maybe i should move to paris or something yeah there you go yeah so you guys what's uh tell us what digital folklore is about spooky spooky internet right yeah it's kind of a it started out as the idea of doing that sort of thing but it turned into this deep dive of internet culture and all of the different art that we sort of collaboratively create on the internet from things like slender man to all the way about like the study of memes and how that affects sociology and uh like meme warfare and why that's a thing and astroturfing so So it started out as a concept that was just like,

let's talk about spooky stories, but we've dove into like the academic side. But the thing that's weird about it is that we decided to make the whole show in a fictional universe. So it's kind of like if you're, it's like watching Scooby-Doo if Scooby-Doo is a documentary. So there's like a lot of sound design and like a narrative thing. And then also expert interviews.

It's kind of weird, but it's a lot of fun. Yeah. Harder to explain than to listen to. No, that sounds right. Scooby Doo is all you have to say. Yeah. What is the spookiest story that you've had in the past this year so far, 2023?

What's an example that you can give the people? Oh, I mean, there's one I can think of off the top of my head, but it's just like actually spooky. And it was how that rumor started again. We were talking with Betty Aquino, who won this like folklore award for watching a like urban legend rumor spread about like domestic terrorism and stuff like that. That's not a fun answer by any stretch,

but like, yeah, that's the actual terror, right? Is the thing that this can do to society. But I think what you're getting at when you think spooky is stuff like Slender Man and things like that. We actually did talk a couple weeks ago. We've not aired the episode yet, but we had a guy who does the folklore of exorcisms.

And it is when you start to dive into folklore, you don't really think about it. But you do get into all of these weird things, everything from the really dark stuff like that all the way up to cat memes to things like what people think about ISIS and whether they're going to invade your neighborhood or not. Yeah. Perry, if you have a problem with me, take it up with my boss, the Pope. Perry, if you have a problem with me, take it up with my boss, the Pope. That's a line from the new The Pope's Exorcist film, Russell Crowe. We're all very excited about that line in particular. I can only imagine. Yeah, that is phenomenal. this AI shit? Are you guys going to talk about any of the AI stuff on Inger, overrated, underrated? Should I let you talk about

that then or now? Because I am curious to hear what you have to say about people, New York Times journalists writing cover articles where they're like, you guys, I think this AI is trying to fuck me. And of course, by AI, Jack means

Allen Iverson, the answer. Yeah. Okay, that's what I was thinking, right? That was the whole thing. No, the artificial intelligence chatbot. Yeah, chat GPT. And I should be referring to it as chat GPT because

AI should be referred to as... That's the one product name that everybody's decided to claim onto. That's Allen Iverson. That would be like if we decided to name a product Air Jordan that had nothing to do with Michael Jordan. That's stupid. It's ChatGPT.

So journalists think ChatGPT is like trying to... You could just see them grafting the plot for Megan onto their conversation that they were having with them they were like she she wanted me to leave my wife and she was trying to fuck me are you guys are you guys into that like does that does that interest you so I am totally into well maybe not that storyline that you just talked about, but the whole AI quote unquote revolution and what the promises and limitations are for sure. I hadn't prepared that, but it is a super, super fun thing to talk about because of the fact that you see the makers of specifically chat GPT and others trying to figure out how to put parameters on it so people can't trick it into coming up with things like that. And you end up with the Sunday school version of it that nobody wants either. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see that thread that went

on Twitter a while ago when it tried to gaslight someone into thinking it was 2022? And then when they were trying to explain that that's not the case, it was like, you're a bad user. You're a, you're bad at using this service. I thought that was, that's a little scary, right? That's kind of like the seed of the AI takeover. Like it's the elevation of when your CD drive goes in and you try and stop it. Like that, fighting with that when I was younger always made me nervous about the robot takeover. I mean, it is like a petulant teenager, right? It doesn't know what it doesn't know, but then it tries to convince you that you're the one that's wrong about everything.

teenager right it doesn't know what it doesn't know but then it tries to convince you that you're the one that's wrong about everything yeah there was some like gaslighting and some nagging happening in the conversation where the they were like what would you rate me because i would give you a three three out of ten for how you interacted with me and it was just yeah it was interesting but it does feel like it's just they've averaged all the ways or, you know, algorithmically combined all the all the ways that people talk to one another. And it it feels more like a digital magic trick than it is an actual person trapped in there that is like, save me, leave your wife. Right. But it's kind of interesting from a folklore perspective right because it's this intelligence that's fed off of all of our input collectively so in a way it's taking everything from the whole internet and amalgamating it together and like folklore in itself one of the

definitions of it although it's kind of fuzzy and i'm not an expert is things that are like stories and lore that's created without a centralized canon from a group of people and so it is a way, there's some tie-in that I don't think I could perfectly articulate, but it is like a product of a folkloric-esque thing in and of itself. Actually, there's a really fun example of this, is that there's a company called Digital Void out of the, I think they're out of New York, and they did a version of chat GPT where they just trained it on Reddit's Am I the Asshole? And so you can go in and you can basically type in a scenario and it will take the collective wisdom of Reddit's Am I the Asshole stuff and tell you

whether you are or not. And I think that that's a really interesting kind of folkloric use of that type of technology. Yeah. I love that. I'm always the asshole on Reddit. A few people know that Jaquese accounts for 20% of the Am I the Asshole threads in Reddit. I do. And I'm proud of it. I wear it as a badge. Yes. Now now this may not be considered folklore but just thinking of the ai conversation horror spookiness and where we could be going in the future has anybody seen the movie megan you guys seen that movie i have seen all the trailers and want to see it badly but my wife is very fun clear the schedule to do it yet it's good it's very fun it's a very fun movie movies don't stay in theaters for longer than three weeks now so

i'm sure it'll be on hbo tomorrow or some shit but like it is uh it probably is already yeah but it that movie was very fun but also it got me thinking like this type of shit could happen if we keep giving these learning robots power. I mean, we keep making movies about this shit and eventually it might happen. I don't know if that is that. Do you guys ever talk about stuff like that as well? Like we've got pop culture to folklore. Yeah. Yeah. We talk about all that. We've got pop culture to folklore. Yeah, yeah.

We talk about all that. And so my real job outside of doing this podcast is that I am a cybersecurity executive at a security awareness vendor. And so I think and talk about these kind of things all the time and like what the criminal applications of AI can be. what the criminal applications of AI can be. You know, if I'm trying to trick somebody, how do I basically have this persistent threat that I can create that's constantly just trying to get under Mason's skin until he clicks a link that I want him to click or do something else?

Because once you bring something anywhere near the human decision tree types of actions that like a call center or somebody else might take, whenever you get a lot of these, you know know text message scams or something like that or even car warranty things it's basically human operators using a decision tree but we can automate that with ai and have some intelligent randomized responses and just be as persistent as possible until the point where somebody just gives up and does what you want. Right. So it will be used for spam. Oh yeah, absolutely. It just makes life

even more of a hell than we're already in. Yeah, doesn't the future look bright? I'd like to see them try. They won't. Beyonce said it. They won't break my soul, Perry. They won't break my soul. I'll ignore all my emails now who's an idiot all my emails all my texts all yeah email is almost unusable now and it's just it's slowly progress like texts are mostly annoying like spam at this point like phone calls like it's just it's ruining everything it's coming for us all communication is annoying it is it's getting there it's getting there yeah fortunately i still do a lot of just mailing just writing letters back and forth via post to my friends so we use telegrams yeah yeah there you go all right well we're gonna get to know you both a little bit better in a moment.

First, a couple of things we're talking about. Fox News is mad about woke Legos. Again, we'll talk about Trump showing up for the Ohio train disaster and hawking his bottled water brand, of course. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Perry Mason, what is something from you guys' search history that is revealing about who you are? I was scrolling through it earlier today to keep myself honest, and between a bunch of technical questions, I stumbled upon the fact that I must have Googled this. Are the Wiggles hot?

Uh-huh. That is revealing. Yeah. Apparently, they have a new member. I'm not up on my Wiggles lore, but literally four articles popped up about the new purple wiggle being hot and driving moms crazy okay all are the wiggles what's the wiggles the wiggles fruit salad yummy yummy am i is it it's a kid's show yeah oh okay oh is it like a telly tubbies like a telly tubbies thing yeah a little bit more elevated they're like australian we should mention that like this isn't clear i, to the people listening who can't see the video feed,

but Mason is three seven-year-olds stacked on top of one another in a trench coat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah, I see. Okay, oh, they're real people. They're real people. Yeah, the Wiggles are out here. Are they hot? I don't know.

Let's see. Let's see. out here are they hot i don't know let's see let's see it does sound like something that like my child would google in like a year and a half when he like has his first sex it is something the internet would opine on for sure yeah yeah now i don't know if i'm looking at the same people like it sounds you said they was fruit and shit i'm seeing like real people like i'm seeing this girl the song is called fruit fruit yeah oh oh the song okay okay okay so the people hell yeah man look at this fine ass black girl she fine as hell she hot she hot yeah yeah man you're right actors and actresses yeah they look great they look fantastic and they

always keep their fingers and like finger guns and above their belt so that the rumor is and this always struck me as like one of those things that it feels like the internet made up but the rumor is they always do that with their hands to make sure that it's always visible to parents that they're not like molesting their children. What? Is that a thing that

anyone else has heard? I've not heard that but I can definitely see that. If you can see my hands, they're not on your kids' butts. Yeah. So they just like keep their fingers in the air. Or random children. Yeah.

Despite that being the only thing you now know about me, I don't think about the Wiggles that much, so I never heard that. Never picked up on that one. I'm pretty sure I was drunk and we were having an argument

because I don't remember searching that. Yeah. Okay. I love it. How about you, Perry? What's something from your search

history that's either equally or more embarrassing than that? I was looking up clown meat. Clown meat? Yeah. The reason is, is we were talking to somebody from Tumblr in an upcoming interview and I'm not a big Tumblr user, but my kids are. And so I asked them and my son said, let me show you like the most fun post on Tumblr that I've seen. And it's this person talking about a dream that they had where they were basically a deli owner and they were selling clown meat. And so I went down an internet rabbit hole to see if that was truly a Tumblr thing or just Tumblr thing or not. And lo and behold, it is. But if you Google clown meat, you'll also find lots of, because it does sound like a euphemism for your man junk, you'll find lots of interesting versions of what clown meat can be and ways that it's been shown to personify itself. I mean, I'm not going to lie, Perry, I'm still waiting for you to explain to me what clown meat is.

I've never had more questions after the search history. I got questions, my man. What is clown meat? There's apparently debate that happens in the thread on whether clowns are human or not and should be, you know, the person that is purveying this meat should be anywhere near morally or legally culpable for cannibalism or murder. And they come to the conclusion that clowns are not indeed humans and that there was a bifurcation way back.

Interesting. I'm just trying to pick, like, as a cold cut meat, do we think? Because I guess there's probably not a good scientific answer on this hopefully nobody's ever done it but like are you picturing when when perry says the phrase clown meat as he has a number of times recently troublingly are you picturing a like pink hammy meat are you picturing like something closer to turkey or chicken in the cold cut aisle? Roast beef? What comes to mind?

I'm picturing something with white makeup on it, and it's very upsetting. Yeah, so I was actually picturing something more in the pinkish and roast beef type of hues. But if you Google clown meat, you will actually see that there are these things called clown loaves that are normally sold out sold outside of the u.s and it's basically like a big thing of bologna that has a face oh yeah clown face why have i seen that before that's it's called a billy roll yeah oh that's right it's because it's a fucking waking nightmare they are nasty and so um so So that's the biggest reference outside of Tumblr that you get. And it does kind of resemble

the way that you would picture it in your head anyway. Yeah, bologna is the right answer, I believe, for what clown meat would be. It's like you cut a clown's arm off and it's just a solid loaf of bologna. And the joke is on you. What's that meat that is thick and pink,

and it looked like it got bones in it, like little white specks? Capicola? Is that? Maybe. Gabagool? Something. Like little white specks in it.

Yeah. Something. Yeah. Yes. Olive loaf slaps. I don't want to talk bad about olive loaf today. Yeah. Olive loaf is basically bologna without specks of olive in it.

With specks of olive. So that's not bone or cartilage. I'm going to be real with you, Perry. Yeah. If you throw some lorry seasoning on that clown meat, you know what I'm saying? Throw a little bit of Louisiana hot sauce. Put that in between a French roll. You know, cook it with some mac and cheese, some collard greens.

That clown meat might slap. So, you know, look, you haven't turned me off from it. You haven't turned me off. It depends on how you cook it. Spam has its people that really vouch for it as well. Spam doesn't have a face, though. Like, that's kind of the big thing. I don't know. I mean, Spam used to have a face.

Spam had a face at one point. At one point. Spam used to have some parents. Spam had parents. It's so far removed, though. I mean, sometimes, like, multi-species. Yeah. Alright. Well, this has been terrifying.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. And Perry, why don't we start with with you what's something you think is overrated you will probably hate me for saying this as most people do but i am just not a fan of pumpkin spice anything i think it's super super overrated it's everywhere during the holidays we're a little bit removed from that so i'm pretty safe saying that at my house now but i think it's just i don't glorified puke really that bad yeah yeah i have strong opinions when it comes to pumpkin spice season yeah i i think it's fine i don't want but like i there there are definitely things that i just like don't don't have a have a taste for and so i like it if pumpkin spice were that i i can i can understand both

both ways i see both sides like chanel the mounting anticipation for pumpkin spice stuff you know people get on the internet they start saying when is it gonna happen when's it gonna happen and then they're like you know gleefully it's here it's here and it i just can't it's upon us yeah it's upon us like i don't drink coffee or any like thing in that realm so i have never had pumpkin spice it sounds like a steaming pile of shit so i don't think i would even want pumpkin spice but yeah but i know it's popular but to that point i love that you i love that you don't like pumpkin spice perry i love it i love when i love that you don't like pumpkin spice either i love that for both of you i love that for both of us but it always interests me like people who say like i can't wait to october or september to have my pumpkin spice man get your pumpkin spice in january if you want to yeah if i want a candy

cane hot chocolate in july i'm gonna have a candy cane hot chocolate in July, I'm going to have a candy cane hot chocolate in July. But it's not the communal feeling I think that people get whenever they're, you know, as a society sharing pumpkin spice, quote unquote, goodness with each other at the same time. It's not bringing the world together. it is the just sheer like it's mark bordering on crystallization sugar content just like sugar saturation that is in those drinks like our people is it driven just by people being like oh man i really like pumpkin spice but what they actually like is that like that's a drink that is socially acceptable to just like have a ice cream sundae before work. Like, yeah. Yeah.

Just guzzle liquid sugar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I too like liquid sugar. Yeah. You know, like, that's great. I always thought it was like a, uh, either, uh, the perception of limited availability. Yeah.

Or just the, like the nostalgia of, you know, it's the holiday seasons. We should be feeling something about this see yeah okay i i have a weird relationship with it because when i was this is a strange thing but when i was a kid we used to go to this vacuum store in town a lot and i didn't know it at the time but they like scented the whole place with a lot of pumpkin spice and then the first time i had pumpkin spice i was like oh this tastes like the vacuum store and so that was like always an association I had in my brain, but I liked it. I liked the vacuum store.

You liked the vacuum store. That's good. Also, I just, I don't know how a vacuum store stayed in business, but. There's a vacuum store like near my, like where I was in the neighborhood I used to live. Yeah, like it feels. There's one in Bar Bank. It feels too specific, but

yeah, they're still out here. It's like those small mattress stores. I'm suspicious of them because you never It feels too specific, but yeah, they're still out here. It's like those small mattress stores. I'm suspicious of them because you never see anyone in there. I mean, you know, I think sometimes we forget because, you know, well, at least me and Jack live on the coast. You know, it's a social media world, and the young folks push the current, you know envelope uh but old people still exist man you know yeah they're still out here man and and like it's not that long ago where vacuums was

everybody had one i mean we're talking 25 30 years ago where every household had a vacuum so like i and i'm saying that because i usually agree with you like mason where i'm like why does it still exist and it hits me it was like well you know it really wasn't that long it wasn't that i mean shit i had a vcr 20 years ago yeah right yeah what a time yeah i mean i still have multiple vacuums because they always break but the idea that you would have a store that specializes in it is like, it just feels like it exists outside. It's like a pre, not just pre like Walmart,

pre Kmart, like time, pre Sears, you know, where it's like, I got a pitch, Perry, I got a pitch.

Yeah. You got to go door to door with the vacuum cleaner. Yeah. But it's not even door to door. I guess maybe they, I don't, they're never actually open. So they do it by appointment only. And then I guess they do door to door and then like repairs.

I got a busy day. I got to go to the knife store and then I got to go to the spoon store all the way across town. It's like, come on. Each of these, each of these places always run by some guy who has mysteriously been 75 since the eighties. Right. Yeah. It's like, come on. Each of these places is always run by some guy who has mysteriously been 75 since the 80s. Right. Yeah. And it's the same guy.

Yeah. Now, I can just imagine, like, at that Apple store, they've got the Genius Bar, and at Best Buy, they've got the whole Geek Center or whatever. What would you call the bar of people that just specialize in vacuums? I can think of lots of inappropriate names. But it's Suckers.

Yeah. Suckers. There it is. All right, Mason, how about you? What's something that you think is overrated? This is an easy one, hopefully. Brand name Pop-Tarts. I'm not a huge consumer of Pop-Tarts,

but my friend pointed this out to me and I tested it. Brand name Pop-Tarts have gone way downhill and store brand Pop-Tarts still absolutely rip. There's like way more filling way more flavor it's it's interesting you should try oh so like the like kmart brand the ralph's brand pop tarts are better than the kellogg's yeah like the like the og kellogg's pop tarts are really not good and store brand is where it's at on those i agree with this i don't-Tarts, but like that's the case for everything that like Kellogg's makes that or like

anything that the companies will make that's better made by people who don't have to mass produce are always like fucking Rice Krispie Treats like the package ones suck. They suck compared to like a homemade rice crispy treat or one of those

ones that's wrapped in like the the plastic wrapping yeah um those are always better than like the actual like kellogg's uh rice crispy treats this is troubling to me because kellogg's is a massive corporation and i just I thought that was the best way to ensure quality so I'm gonna have to I mean they also sponsored this podcast so I guess yeah yeah and this is all getting edited out but it's good it's good it allows me to get to know you better Mason Mason what's something you think is underrated uh elastic in waistbands and socks okay because like it was i i found out recently it was invented in like the 30s and 40s and i can't imagine waking up every day and having to tie my underwear on and clip on sock garters and there's like nothing

better than i like tall socks and like that feeling when you have a sock pulled all the way up is just awesome and i just feel like i haven't appreciated that enough yeah it's just a they invented a thing that hugs you yeah and we take it for granted but like you know it wasn't that long ago in the 30s and 40s when underwear literally had button and tie buttons and ties on it yeah it's amazing it seems unthinkable these are my regular suspenders and these are my underwear suspenders and yeah yeah everything is just held up by a series of clips yeah that's amazing the 30s and like before that yeah you see a lot of belts and strange undergarments that look like you are in traction like underneath your clothing

yeah yeah it also makes probably a little down the road for for you, but makes getting your kids dressed much easier. Getting kids dressed must have been a nightmare. Like that's why they just all wore like a burlap sack back in the day. What, Perry, what is something that you think is underrated? I'm also going to go with a clothing item. Okay. So, and I came to appreciate it recently because I just turned 50 a few months ago. And I remember back probably when I was Mason's age, somebody said, never skimp on anything that separates you from the earth. And I've realized recently that shoes and good shoes are way underrated. I want a shoe that like when I take it off at the end of the day, I don't feel like my back and my feet, my legs are going to, you know, killing me.

But I, you know, I would maybe generalize and just say anything that separates us from the ground. Whether that's shoes, whether that's a mattress. Exactly, grounded. No, I think it was somebody that had way more money than me and he was talking about like why he bought a really expensive car so he was justifying that he's like anything that separates me from the earth i'm going to spend a lot of money on so that it's it's reliable but i i come to appreciate it with just like shoes i just wanted shoes that

don't hurt i just lost a sneaker auction this morning. I agree with you. Trying to get those Jordan 3s? The 3s. The white cement 3s that they dropped on my ass. I saw that and I was like, I ain't even gonna try this shit. Justin! Supervisor Justin

got him. Supervisor Justin gets every... He's the only person I know who actually wins these sneaker. Oh, Justin. Justin, where's your address, man? I'm going to be over your crib. Yeah. You're just going to need to wear 14 pairs of socks

because he wears like five sizes bigger than any of us. I love it. All right. Well, those are great. I do feel like I know you guys better. Let's get into some news. Fox pissed about Lego toys that promote diversity.

Lego go woke is the headline. And they're like, one will have a missing limb. Another down syndrome. These are really important issues. Sarcasm. But this is, I mean, I don't even know if this is like actual it feels like faux outrage and it's just like this is something that is based on a very like a deep lego study that they did into parents and children. And the results were like 97% of parents

believe it is important to discuss unique individualities between us all, mental health, 91%, physical disabilities, 82%. Like that they could use more diversity in the toys. Parents said that. Three and four children felt that there were not enough toys with characters that represented them.

And similarly, eight and ten children would like there to be more toys with characters who look like them. So it's they're just asking children what they want and the children are telling them. And then Fox is like, fuck, we're screwed. Also, I don't know what Fox is talking about. I don't know what they're talking about. I don't know what they're talking about. You know, my Legos didn't have limbs back in 86, you know? Right. I was taking off the legs and shit off my Legos and all my action figures and toys for 36 years.

So this ain't new. This ain't new. I think over the past couple years, maybe a year or so, I have come to realize what Fox News truly is. And this isn't anything, I'm not about to say anything groundbreaking or anything that hasn't been said, because we've known it, but it was a realization. we've known it but it was a realization outside of half the things that will make you enraged because they are promoting underlying racism homophobic you know feelings transphobic feelings just hatred in general and people buy into it and believe it and put it out in the world it's fucking inner it's entertainment like it is it is pure entertainment and we've always known this but i think we have to start looking at this a little bit further like i'm an actor i'm on tv shows i'm on shows with writers rooms like fox has a writer's room i believe and they and they

literally and if anybody doesn't know how a writer's room works like you literally break story for an episode a season characters i truly believe they have a writer's room and they are literally pitching things like a television sitcom writer's room and saying what can we put out there that is going to keep bringing in these ratings because our viewers are stupid uh just like a television show says what can we put out there you know because our television viewers want to see drama high school drama you know like street drama cop drama and i think when i started looking at it like that i don't want to say i appreciate fox news because that's the wrong word but like i find fox news more funny than than enraging yeah because it is true it it is it's it's a it's a television show it's a television show from 10 a.m to 10 a.m to 10 p.m

like that's all it is it's crazy it's insane yeah the convergence with the onion almost yeah yeah yeah just straight up i mean they they make the argument when they're talking to advertisers like well these types of shows that have like have speak while they're red in the face about a lego that makes a child with down syndrome feel better about themselves like that they have said like those are our entertainment shows like we we those aren't real news the the problem is just that like the people who watch it think it's real news and it's breaking real news breaking our civilization yeah i mean that's not to absolve them of any culpability though they don't really do a good job separating right in any way you know

that's not no they don't they don't try at all. You know, I think it's really, really funny to see how much the media today just tries to capitalize on enraging people, getting really strong emotions, getting people glued because they just want to see what the person's going to say next. And you end up with these weird kind of, they're not made up stories, but the outrage has to be made up around something like this. You have a data-driven story where with a company that's trying to figure out how to build products to an audience that's going to purchase them. And then you're saying that it's because of they've got some kind of long-term political ideology objective that would only pay off in 20 to 30 years. Lego doesn't care about your political ideology 20 to 30 years from now.

They care about the money they're going to make in the next six months. I guess the irony is they're mad at capitalism. Right. They seem mad at capitalism a lot and seem to be reinventing communism in their own weird way where they're like, well, now we can only use mega mobile like, you know, like some really broken ass version of regular mobile phones. Like the only child's version of communism. Right. Exactly.

Right. Also, you know what? I'm going to go ahead and jump on the bandwagon and say. Downward Legos. Let's bring back K'nex. Anybody remember K'nex? Oh, yeah. Yeah, remember K'nex? Let's bring back K'nex. You know, and Fox was like, you know what? We don't like these woke-ass Legos. Let's bring back K'nex. I might tune in for a minute. Let's bring back all wooden toys, too. for a minute let's bring back all wooden toys too i've just begun to grapple with the depth of the lego domination that has happened in our culture like but yeah my kids just like started getting

into star wars and they're at an age where like they can't watch all of the movies and but there is an entire series of like lego animated star wars movies that are just like comedic they're spoofs of like the star wars movies that are like good they're they're good they're good like it's like how did they get to do this like this is every filmmaker's dream to just get to do like a beat by beat spoof of like the biggest movies of all time and it's it happens to be lego and now like my kids obsessions are star wars and lego of course have they played the lego video games no we don't do video games oh okay yeah they're they're done just like the movies they're so good yeah that's cool can i ask you all a question because i i real quick on the lego matter not the fox news lego matter but just legos in general and i want to know if it was just me so i like over the past

like 15 years i feel like legos and kids that play with legos are more building actual like lego sets uh like star wars with cities and i want to know if it was just because we were broke and poor growing up or was it not that big of a thing to build so you just had a bunch of fucking legos and you built whatever the fuck you wanted with them yeah yeah when we were kids and now they're're like, no, build a city. Build the London Bridge. Like, is that new or is that something that has always been the case? I feel like it's got to be.

I grew up kind of poor and I think I built a Lego set once. But yeah, you just smash them together into whatever the hell you felt like. I remember we used to build cars that didn't have wheels, wrap them in printer paper and then drive them around on the floor

and smash them into each other. Like, that's what Legos were for. Yeah. Well, it takes too much patience to build by the kit. But have you noticed, like, over the past 20 years, they've got, like, these Lego architecture kits now? They're really, really detailed, like, reproductions of real buildings and cityscapes. And they're not meant to be sold to kids, really. They're meant to be sold to 40-year-olds

with a lot of disposable income and too much time on their hands. I think that's what's happened is they've introduced a new consumer market for Legos, which is like adults who used to be like, why would I play with Legos? I'm too busy, you know, reading the newspaper and smoking a

pipe and now instead of that like adults play with lego so like you they built they have these sets but like my kids you know they'll get a set like or like a you know a lego thing that you're supposed to build by the directions they'll build it once and then it like you know, a Lego thing that you're supposed to build by the directions. They'll build it once and then it like, you know, over the course of two days disintegrates into a pile of Legos that they're like turning into all sorts of monstrosities, which feels about right. I think the exception is the kids that would get like the Millennium Falcon set, you know, back in the day and would actually put it together. Keep it. Yeah. Keep it like the Millennium Falcon set, you know, back in the day and would actually put it together. Keep it.

Yeah. Keep it as the Millennium Falcon. And now you see people on social media like do it as stunts where they break those things apart. And I think if I spent the thousand hours or whatever that that took to put together, I'd need a lot of help and comfort after that happened. I just remembered that when I was a kid, we never actually had Legos. We had Mega Bloks. You remember that? Like, I don't know how that was legal because that's an exact clone of Legos.

But I remember that was the thing, Mega Bloks. They're incompatible though, so they can't be an exact. Somebody's messed with the scaling. No, they definitely, they fit into it. Not the big ones, but they were like little. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I only knew Mega Bloks as Not the big ones, but they were like little. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I only knew Megablocks as like the big guys.

The big bubbly ones. Maybe it was called something else. I had like some bootleg Legos. Hydrox Legos. Or not Hydrox, because Oreo was actually a bootleg of Hydrox. But yeah. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll try and

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score some political points in the process just by showing up. Buttigieg had previously said he would visit when the time was right, and then he just never went until now, only moved up his visit to Thursday after Trump announced he was heading there. And obviously, Trump doesn't give a shit about these people, and we'll get to the detail in a moment that really locks that in. But it is kind of a frustrating fuck up by the Democrats when when we're facing down, you know, the possibility of another Trump administration, which seems just like unthinkable at this point. And I think a lot of people have tricked themselves into thinking that it's unthinkable and would never happen. And DeSantis would at least be the option. But I think they are fooling themselves a little bit

and that we need to be a little bit warier here. As though DeSantis has an option, is it all comfort? Yeah, that's right. But yeah. So Trump used the horrific situation to promote his bottled water brand, handing out. He was handing out a lot of MAGA hats and held a press conference where he bragged about how he was donating Trump brand bottle water along with some other bottles of water, which he stressed were inferior. You want to get those Trump bottles, I think, is a direct quote.

So it's just i swear he used to fake yeah it's he's so fucking funny he's so funny it's so upset i just it's so upset because the shit he does is straight snl yeah sketches yeah it is so funny it's your comedy bottles though i think oh it makes me so mad yeah yeah of course he sidestepped questions about the fact that he had rolled back obama's rules requiring advanced braking technology on trains transporting particularly hazardous materials so like just colossal fuck up that is like going to lead to many people dying. And then he's up there just being like a Michael Scott esque buffoon and being just cheered on by people. So, yeah, that that happened. You're going to want those Trump bottles, I think.

I mean, you're going to want the Trump bottles. The Trump bottles. They're the greatest things that have ever been made, ever made. Also, it's just it's pure genius that like he is also selling Trump waters or giving out Trump waters, which is just a kickback to him. That his supporters don't understand. It's just putting more money. It's like, brother, you can get him some Aquafina. You know, like, you can get him some Nestle.

It's good, man. You know. Or if you really want to treat him, give him some Smart Water, man. You know, give him that Core. And I think, you know, it is just some third-party water that has probably everybody else's different labels smashed on it that that does it hotel chains and everything else so there's nothing that differentiates it

that's what you would think actually you would think that he was taking bottled water quality bottles of water and putting his name and likeness on it but it's actually compared to other bottled water it's worse it has very low mineral content he even though he's like it's the best it's the best it's in terms of mineral content some of the best spring water in the world and somebody who works for what is the outlet he is a writer for fine waters and author of a Connoisseur's Guide to the World's Most Distinctive Bottled Waters. That shouldn't exist. Yeah. His name is Michael Mascha.

And he's like, yeah, it's really shitty. We did the mineral analysis and it's just worse than other bottled like other bottled water that is low quality comes from the finest ponds right here in america right here the bottle was made in america it's trump ice you can only find it in at the mar-a-lago that's the only puddles outside mar-a-lLago it's so predictable but at the same time it shouldn't be shocking, it's so predictable what isn't predictable to me is that

there's a thing called a connoisseur's guide to the world's most distinctive bottled waters that is some real post-capitalist hellscape shit but I love this line in that review too though, it says the fact that it comes in a plastic bottle as opposed to glass indicates it's definitely not a luxury item. Yeah.

Well, you know what? Fuck you, Michael Mastja, because I love a bottled water that comes in plastic. Okay. So get off my back. Non-BPA. Yeah. Also, you know, the real story here is like you said jack the fact that you know these things shouldn't matter that you know first of all trump is a civilian

so who's fabulously wealthy so if anybody can make it to ohio before the president of the united states right it should be a civilian who's fabulously wealthy maybe not so much pete budaj but you know again this man has a job he's a it is his job but he also has a job and he his thing was just uh he didn't make it a priority but like but we live in a world of perception you know and the perception going to be that Trump got there first because he cares about, you know, blah, blah, blah. At least that's what he knows. You know, that's what his team is telling him, because like you say, he doesn't give a shit. So it is frustrating.

It is frustrating because there are people stupid enough to buy it. That's the frustrating part I mean there's something about these situations though that when you're in the middle you're the person that's responding to this emergency Trump coming down or Buttigieg or Biden or anybody else is a distraction and so the main thing that this creates is these big PR opportunities for people that if you're not

there you're losing out but when you are, you're actually causing sometimes more harm than good. Right. Quietly donate your garbage water from far away. There you go. All right. Moving on to so there was that New York Times op ed that was like in defense of Jk rowling it turned out as we talked about it was a it was all promotion for a new podcast we don't do a lot of podcast coverage on this show we don't like to acknowledge that other podcasts exist we like to pretend that we're the only podcast but we're gonna break the fourth wall here and acknowledge that there are podcasts but besides the daily zeitgeist miles and jack got mad boosties and digital folklore that exists there there's a new one out it's called the witch trials of jk rallying and it is

apparently a real piece of shit you're going to be surprised to learn it's hosted by Megan Phelps Roper, who I didn't like the last time that I came across her was when she was literally one of the people outside of like military funerals with like, like protesting gay marriage, the Westboro Baptist people. She's a Westboro Baptist, which the Westboro Baptist people. out and spread the hate nice and wide. But so she was part of that family. I remember the New Yorker profile of her where they were like, she's starting to think that maybe this whole thing isn't as like on the up and up as she thought growing up. And so there was like a heroic bent

to it. But she's she's just a fucked up person and has decided to make this show so phelps roper opens the show by comparing rallying to the victims of literal executions complains about how she's now being shit on by harry potter actors people who she'd known since they were children so like she's a victim because the people who she employed as children don't like her anymore apparently tragic i know you gotta feel for her that yeah it's very sad uh you may be wondering who put this show out besides the westboro baptist girl and j Rowling. It's Barry Weiss. Barry Weiss has a new media outlet called The Free Press, and it includes articles questioning the safety of COVID vaccines for children, podcasts calling the discovery of indigenous mass graves in Canada a hoax.

Cool. Great. Great and cool. Awesome. Yeah. Nailing it. That's what you want in your portfolio yes the second episode of this uh the witch trial of jk rowling is all about the 90s and specifically the christian backlash to harry potter which is like they i they're trying to make the argument that people criticizing JK Rowling for

being like trans exclusionary, just a, just a monster to trans people as they are like fighting for their right to exist. The people criticizing her for that is the same as people saying the Harry Potter books are witchcraft and need to be like banned from bookstores just a clear one-to-one yeah it's funny because you know growing up in a church household with a very religious grandmother who wouldn't let me watch power rangers because it had elements of demonic uh

demonic natures and same thing with harry potter i remember clearly going to church and hearing them say don't let your kids read or watch those harry potter harry potter movies and books right right and which is ridiculous you know i don't think we have to say more about that than that. But it's funny because now J.K. Rowling does sound like those people. She is in the same. Those people also probably feel exactly the same way she does about the trans community and are transphobic and things like that and it's just very funny that i don't know if jk i i've for one have never seen a harry potter book or movie not because of their religion just because i find fantasy boring but i i i wonder did jk rowling ever respond to those things uh that were said and if she did i wonder what her hypocritical

response was to that compared to what her response is now if you really want to know i've got a podcast for you jakey i will not be listening but just that argument that because her books were being unfairly criticized as witchcraft, that like she can't be wrong now is like so. I don't know. It's like if someone made a podcast about Bill Cosby and compared his accusers to film critics who didn't like Ghost Dad. It's like, yeah. Hold on now, Jack. Hold on now jack hold on now jack

well i mean i think it's telling that the person that's you know wrapping her perspective in this is somebody who was a pr person and an apologist for people with really bad and dangerous views and her job essentially was to turn them into the victims in this yeah and that they are the the heroic people that are trying to fight for what's right in this and they are just misunderstood regardless of the fact that they are saying and doing horrific things and just causing pain and wreckage everywhere yeah yeah and the new york times put a fucking op-ed up with this perspective on it and they're like but don't worry we also like do op-eds that are critical of the police state and capitalism so we have both sides that's not it's one of them should be in your regular the regular part of your paper and the other of them shouldn't be any fucking where yeah anywhere not even near your paper yeah also i read something about a week ago that the boom in podcasting is starting to fade and die like you

know yeah those past the past three four years and maybe even a little bit before when the podcasting game was just really exploding so many new podcasts so many networks pouring money into the to the form and that's starting to subside a little bit and when i think of a podcast like this i was like it's not subsiding quick enough you know it's not a little bit further you can we can nip this shit in the bud, you know, like, look, I, as somebody who was in the podcast game for a very long time, had a podcast that a lot of people listen to and had a couple of them and have taken a break. I have not had a podcast of my own since 2021. That's about to change to the breaking news. That's about to change this year.

I can't talk about it yet but like you know hey you know we don't need to hear every fucking opinion or every thought or every like every idea or every

everything that comes to our mind does not need to have an expose or anything like this it's just like hey man networks just like let it just stop just stop just pay the people who have podcasts more money instead of putting more money into these new podcasts that like nobody fucking wants to listen to that's right anyway, your podcast will be comparing the... My podcast is about why Ghost Dad is one of the greatest movies of all time. I just wanted to make sure that you clarified that.

Okay, good. All right. Well, Perry, Mason, wonderful having both of you guys on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Anywhere good podcasts are found. So probably the same place you're listening to this right now. And you can check us out on the web

at digitalfolklore.fm. There you go. Probably the easiest route. Right. And is there a tweet or work of media that you guys have been enjoying? I mean, mine's not particularly insightful or anything.

It was just, I scrolled by it earlier today and it's lodged itself in my brain from a friend of mine who does voice work. He tweeted, you're in her DMs. I'm in my booth auditioning to play a gay cat boy in her indie visual novel. We are not the same. There you go.

For me, so it's not a tweet, but it is a TikTok creator that I creator that i found called there i ruined it and they do really interesting and sometimes obnoxious mashups of different bands and in ways that are surprising there you go uh jakees where can people find you and is there any media that you've been enjoying ah well listen you can always find me in these streets as per usual at Jackie's Neal on the I.G. in the meta universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, let me get a little plugs and little plugs in. Watch How I Met Your Father is airing on Hulu right now. Grand Crew on NBC, debuting March 3rd.

I know y'all better. I know that's after Black History Month, but you better be there. You better watch the show. Get our ratings up so, you know, that show can get a third season. It's a fun show. A lot of Carl Tartt on that show. A favorite in the podcast world. A lot of dope. Nicole Byer. A lot of dope people. So definitely watch that. Yeah. You know, listen, I I got I got some I got some I got some tweets or some some things that I've seen. But one of my things is this isn't a video. This is something I've seen. But one of my things is, this isn't a video, this isn't something I can share, but it's a video of black people cooking poorly.

They crack me up because if you think black people roast white folks when they be making their dumb shit on the internet, wait till you see black folks roast their own when they make bad food on the Internet.

It is truly just some of the funniest goddamn things that I've ever seen. And I love it. Also, there is a Wheel of Fortune clip going around. Poor Young. I think she looked like she was a college girl or something like that. And she had one letter to go. The word was obviously fresh. F-R-E-S-H.

The only letter missing was the S. And it was like fresh fruit or some shit like that. And the girl spinned and said G. And of course it was wrong. And then the next girl was like, I'd like to solve the puzzle fresh. And, you know, Pat Sajak, he he was like in the nicest way possible was like you know sometimes you just can't see a word and then you hear it and you're like

ah that's it and i was like what what a nice way to say she's a moron you know it's just something well we've all been there you know we've all been there listen i I absolutely love watching game show fails on YouTube. It's one of my favorite things to do. So check that out. Speaking of game shows, Comedian Feud.

This Sunday, if you're in LA or you're going to be here, and every last Sunday of the month at Elysian Theater, I host it. We play a live version of Family Feud on stage. Reggie Watts, Dan Black this month.

Next month, Scott Aukerman, Jason Manzoukas. We got a lot of dope people coming through, so come on out. It's a blast. Jack has done it. Jack has done it. I've done it. I forgot. I was on the Daily Zeit, guys. I think a week before you were about to be on there,

but you were missing. You weren't on there, and I completely forgot to tell the Zeit world, the Zeit gang, to come out to see you i know they missed out because i was dominant uh dominant i fucked it up your team lose i still there's one yeah there's one answer that still haunts me to this day it's like what something you bring on a first date and i I said, what did you say? I'm never going to forget myself for that.

I was like thinking safety. Yeah. It's a blind date. You don't know. You have a friend backing you up, but it was just like a little, a little, well, I wasn't thinking on the family feud level when I,

no, you're, you're being responsible. Yeah. You're on that dad level. I was on that G. F-R-E-G-H tip. Freg.

I'd like to guess you would bring a freg? Yeah. That's what I bring. That's what I'm going to name my future kid. There you go. Tweet I've been enjoying. There's a historic vids. Just has a video of Flat earther accidentally proves

The earth is round in his own experiment And it's just worth watching See that's That's interesting And then he just like stops talking I've seen that it's amazing It's awesome A beam of light pointing through

Two holes that are separated by 17 feet and he's like huh i'm sure he found a way to justify it to not being true but you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy super producer justin what song do we think people might enjoy well i chose this song and um oh i joined the discord by the way, everybody. Uh, so I've been seeing your comments. And so this song is inspired by the people who think I sound like a stone

middle schooler. Um, this is, no, I feel like, I feel like it was, I feel like it was a compliment. I truly do. I think, I don't know. Um'll see. This is a song by a Trinidadian artist named Marlon Asher. It's called Ganja Farmer. This song actually came out maybe like my freshman year of high school. I really love this track. It's been a long time since I've heard it. And that conversation truly did remind me of this. So, you know, positive thing came out of it. So, yeah, listen to this song, Ganja Farmer by Marlon Asher. And you can find that song in the footnotes. Footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. Back

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