The Daily Zeitgeist - Fox PWNED, Military Drag Shows Long History 05.08.23

Episode Date: May 8, 2023

In episode 1479, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, producer, and host of Sanctum Unmasked, Karley Sciortino, to discuss… Fox HAS BEEN PWNED…, Criticizing Drag Queens In The Military Is Staggeri...ngly Ignorant, Guardians of the Galaxy 3 Features Marvel’s First “F*ck” and more! Fox HAS BEEN PWNED… Tucker Carlson Caught Making Disgusting Comments About Women In New Leaked Video Criticizing Drag Queens In The Military Is Staggeringly Ignorant U.S. Navy Picks Active-Duty Drag Queen for Face of New Recruitment Program Ex-Navy SEAL who claimed he killed Osama bin Laden banned from Delta after maskless selfie Navy drag queen influencer has House GOP cranking up heat on Defense Secretary Austin Gay, Lesbian Troops Perform in Drag at Fundraiser Drag in the Navy: An Interview with Harpy Daniels GIs as Dolls: Uncovering the Hidden Histories of Drag Entertainment During Wartime Does a Photo Show British Soldiers in Drag Fighting Nazis? Guardians of the Galaxy 3 Features Marvel’s First “F*ck” Chris Pratt and James Gunn Talk ‘Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3’ Signature Oner, the MCU’s First F-bomb and Star-Lord’s Most Emotional Scene Guardians Of The Galaxy 3's Historic F-Bomb Went Right Over Karen Gillan's Head LISTEN: No Way by Mansur BrownSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:29 Trust us, it's out of this world. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 286, episode one of your daily zeitgeist. A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Monday, May 8th, 2023. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. May 8th. Be with you. There you go. May 8th. Wait, hold on. Actually, no. It is a real thing. Wait, no.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Is it? What's today? 6, 7, 8. Yes, May 8th. Why is my... Okay, this is so funny. The thing I normally use to find the days of the month is being very, very tricky with me. Oh, here it is. Were you counting the keys on your keyboard to get to 8? Yeah, and on my fingers.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I'm like, wait, what's today? It's World Ovarian Cancer Day International Thalassemia Day I might not be getting that right World Red Cross Day Time of Remembrance and Reconciliation National Student Nurse Day National Women's Checkup Day National Have a Cake Day
Starting point is 00:02:35 National Coconut Cream Pie Day Get all those things Get them My name is Jack O'Brien I wish you would go and take that pledge, my friend. You could swear by with your life, King Chuck, you will defend. And if you just touch that TV with your hand, you're now a king's man. That is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Maine.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Had to bring it back to Yamaguchi after yesterday's AKA that just, you know, declared war on him from right to post. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, it's Miles Gray. And shout out to the teachers because, well, actually math, because a little bit of calculus in my life. A little trigonometry by my side. A little Fibonacci's all I need. A little inequality's what I see.
Starting point is 00:03:35 A little bit of lambda in the sun. A little bit binary all night long. A little probability, here I am. A little square root two. two well where's the list square root two makes me your man radical two anyway that was mambo number five but we're talking about math and i was talking about math songs uh shout out pat on the discord for that one i mean that seems straight up ripped from a cool math teacher's lesson lesson plan i know it sounds like you guys ready for this one and my cool math teacher i mean like that's what he calls himself did i tell you i had my geometry
Starting point is 00:04:12 teacher we would wear a shirt that had the the square root sign it said get radical like it would just have the radical sign and it would just say get with the square root symbol and he's like get radical right guys i didn't even know that piece of math terminology radical too like this that likes check mark you didn't know that i didn't know that shit yeah you know math nerd jack what the fuck i did good in geometry too that's crazy i also did good in geometry in kentucky and yeah yeah who knows how uh how that holds up outside of the rest of the world. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a writer, producer, host behind Vogue's breathless column.
Starting point is 00:04:53 So whatever on Viceland stars is now apocalypse and the new podcast Sanctum Unmasked. Please welcome to the show, Carly Shortino. Thank you so much. I'm honored to be on the pod, honestly. Oh, you honor us. You honor us with your presence. What's good? How are you doing? I'm great.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I just walked my dog. Now I'm sitting here in my house, you know, being a writer. This is what being a writer is, I think. Yeah, sitting at home. Just being a slob. Yeah. What part of, what part of the, where are you at?
Starting point is 00:05:28 What part of earth are you coming to us from? I recently moved to Laurel Canyon. Where do you guys live? Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. What are your addresses? Yeah. My address is 11201 Cling Street. That's right. I'm right there. Yeah. I'm right there in the Valley. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Oh yeah. I lived in the Valley for a long time. I'm close. There's right. I'm right there. Yeah, I'm right there in the valley. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I lived in the valley for a long time. I'm close. There you go. I'm close. I like it. Yeah, you're right there. I miss like, I like the big parking lots, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah. Yeah. Parking is, you know, that's the thing we got. We're not fighting over parking spots and we never have that thing where we're put off by going somewhere in the valley because there's no parking. People are just usually put off by coming to the valley in general. But this is my home. And Carly, your new show is about a LA-based sex club.
Starting point is 00:06:14 It's about LA, about the Sanctum, which is not spelled like it's pronounced. But yeah, it's a really, really cool story. Eyes Wide Shut was real there for a number of years basically yes so it's about this sex club called sanctum which launched in 2013 and it was this this guy damon loner was a million dollars in debt he watched it's the classic story he was up late one night couldn't sleep watched eyes wide shut you know the iconic sex theme the illuminati sex party have you ever seen it yeah yeah yeah baby did a bad bad thing that
Starting point is 00:06:51 was in the trailer i remember for eyes wide shut just that one singular icy piano key is how i wake my children up in the morning let them know the day has begun yeah it's he watched that and he was like that would be cool if that existed you know just like all these terrifying powerful men like wearing masks sleeping with models and with like weird ominous chanting in the background like maybe i should make that exist and then he actually did it and i mean at the club's peak in 2016 the most expensive yearly membership was 425 000 so it's just like got out of debt got out of that million dollars of debt yeah yeah it's just like billionaires and celebrities like larping game of thrones like blood oath initiation ritual sex party beverly hills hollywood messiness if you're into that that's
Starting point is 00:07:48 the long line no that's that you got my attention anytime it's people larping it's that kind of wild shit it's always interesting to see people like act out whatever weird sordid fantasies they have in their minds and like fully come i mean not and say like and that's great for them i love that for them but yeah when billionaires go larping people get hurt usually oh yeah yeah yeah we're larping uh this film the most dangerous game would you like to come out to my uh island that i own for the weekend yeah but that's cool it's crazy story we're thrilled to have you people should go check it out we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about, and we'll just flag any time a story comes up that features people who were probably at Sanctum at that time. Fox News. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yep, yep. Ding, ding, ding. Maybe not. They might not have been actually cool enough to get in, but maybe Tucker Carlson made an appearance. But anyway, they're just more leaked videos of what he was like off camera, which is, again, just creepy as fuck. It's unsurprising. We'll just say we'll get into the details. The World Health Organization has announced COVID is over. Yeah, just like that. That's good news. We're not going to talk about anything anything we're just going to let everybody know covid's over i was literally
Starting point is 00:09:09 somebody's like yeah my wife got covid i'm i'm kind of worried maybe i have it too and i was like looking at them like excuse me okay i'm glad i'm masked i'm masked the fuck up but yeah cool like it ain't over but hey sure let's move on and then the military is really pissing off the the people who kid rock they're coming for kid rock they they announced a recruitment campaign with an active duty drag queen who performs under the name harpy daniels and harpy daniels is one of five people tapped to be one of their digital ambassadors. And people are like, what? No, no, not my Navy.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Not my Navy. Exactly. In the Navy. In the Navy. In the military, just in general. So we'll talk about what they're being forced to ignore in order to scare up some outrage about this one. Guardians of the Galaxy 3 features Marvel's first person saying, Fuck.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Oh, shit. Dude, what? Don't say that. We're going to get in trouble. Oh, my God. You mean F-U-C-K? Did he just say F-U-C-K? He said F-U-C-K.
Starting point is 00:10:24 So they're talking about that and being cool all that plenty more but first carly we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history i just looked there's two these are the two things i was searching last night one of them is probably more on brand the other one of them is david gardner live tyler because i wanted to know how tall lives live tyler's husband was his name is david gardner i don't know and one of them is who founded porn hub which was i was doing research and it's a guy named matt keeser if you were wondering and he's someone who looks like he found it for enough he fits the aesthetic bill nice what does that look entail i'm picturing something i want to see if i'm right can you give me a description he's like kind of nerdy he kind of looks like he'd be like sandler's cousin
Starting point is 00:11:18 or something he looks like the kind of like if if you were going to cast a sitcom and you're like, he plays the guy that lives next door that they find annoying. It's like that guy. And the guy next door, he's annoying because he's got all these servers at his house because he's starting a massive porn website. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:40 He looks like he could be a character on Silicon Valley, kind of. Yeah. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's about right your thing mac he's rich are you uh are you obsessed with like celebrities heights and like relative heights to their partners is that something that you find yourself googling frequently yeah i do like i i think a problem i have when watching television shows is that i have to watch them twice because i get obsessed with like, oh, that actor. Like, what are they?
Starting point is 00:12:09 Where were they born? And who are they married to? And how tall is their partner? You know? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you care? That might be a girl thing.
Starting point is 00:12:19 No, I do find it. Always find it interesting. Is there someone that you have come across? First of all, I think this is the thing that we need a Wikipedia that is like a trustworthy source for actor heights, because I don't think the information on the Internet is actually usually correct. I think it is a publicist screen. It's self-reported. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:44 We're not here for that. Who are some past celebrities that you've, like, you've had done some research into their heights? Who else has piqued your interest in that department? Just the other day,
Starting point is 00:12:53 I was Googling Jennifer Lawrence height, and it says she's 5'9", and then you get, like, deep into it where people are fighting, and it's like, no, she's not actually 5'9".
Starting point is 00:13:00 People are like, she's, like, max 5'7 1⁄2", and I think that's true, but there's this famous photo of her standing next to jodie foster like giving it when i get the oscars or something giving an award and jodie fought she jodie foster looks like she must be like 4 10 and so the height discrepancy is so scary like did you ever see that picture of taylor swift and bruno mars next to each other no it went viral because he's like half the size of her yeah so so sometimes it's good
Starting point is 00:13:32 but it's like so okay so related this is something i find really funny wait how tall is bruno mars i'm a small person. I've seen him in person. He was actually on the flight when I flew out to LA to move here. For real? He was in first class with his little fedora hat on. It says he's 5'5". He's a short king.
Starting point is 00:13:59 He's hot, though. 5'5 with brown eyes. Smile like the sunrise. Okay. five five with brown eyes smile like the sunrise okay so yeah it's not even like one of those ones like the picture with the bidens and the carters where right right with the camera like this he is in the foreground and yeah no i'm this picture is that's why i was like oh shit that's why he's got like that he's got that tom cruise shit you know what what I mean? We're like, his energy is way bigger than his like measurable height. Cause I remember like to your point,
Starting point is 00:14:29 Carly, the first time I saw Tom Cruise in person, that's when I was like, yo, they're fucking around. Like they got, they got me thinking this man was six, three.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And I was like, I remember being like 16 towering over him. I was like, okay, what's up Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise, tall cats. they start with the same sounds for a reason the the i i still have this weird thing where i went to a movie premiere
Starting point is 00:14:53 the only movie premiere i think i've ever been to it was for i forget the name of it i'll look up the name of it but will smith was there or somebody who i thought was will smith and everyone that's will smith i swear that's will smith it was like it was definitely will smith but he was like 5 10 maybe like i walked out i was like wait will smith is like much shorter i thought he was like 6 2 6 1 and like i walked up behind him i was much taller than him and i'm you know just a little bit over six foot like right around six foot one and then everyone swears up and down and even when i talk to people who've met will smith they're like no he's six two so i don't know what did you do the thing like a short body double i didn't like i didn't go so close so maybe there's just like something weird about i mean i was i was going through a
Starting point is 00:15:45 period where i was wearing lifts so in my timberlands so you were like ron desantis when he wears those cowboy boots everywhere to give him an extra two inches yeah but i think it's because we expect them to be larger than life celebrities and when you see them they're and they're short it's like there's like the world under your feet is like shaky suddenly yes yeah but it helps you feel better too you're like oh good that's right this guy's just he's a normal person like not everyone's some kind of like cinematic giant yeah bruno mars reads short though like when i see him on tv i'm like that is a short person like he he just like has that energy time i got it can go like both ways but even like when i saw him the one time i walked past him on a staircase he like his even though he's short the thing that hits you is not his
Starting point is 00:16:41 how short he is it's like just his it's that he's like glowing and hovering above the ground and just has this like crazy energy about him yeah that's his thing he makes everybody feel like the only person in the room yeah and that's like anyone who's crossed paths and like wow he's just like really talkative and like really really engaging yeah and there were some celebrities at sanctum uh let's just hit a list of names who are we talking here i heart lawyers like to say we can't say anything you know as we are i heart partners they are so they were i mean i know they're just doing their job but we would write the script for the podcast and like any reference of anybody they were like no and even if it was like
Starting point is 00:17:23 i mean there's been i think i can say this like reported like in so many publications that like when paltrow was there and bill maher was there and we were like can we just say reported everywhere on earth these people were there and they were like no so you can do some googling have some good news yeah i mean legal doesn't listen to our podcast so you can say that yeah i'm really looking at a daily mail piece gwyneth paltrow approved sex club sanctum paltrow approved sex club making its way from la to new york and the hamptons with kickoff party during fashion week this is before all the shit came out huh yeah that's the the strategy
Starting point is 00:18:04 with this podcast is we put out so many episodes that legal can't listen to them all so yeah we got that from steve bannon flood the zone with shit flood the zone with shit what is uh what's something that you think is overrated yoga okay what happened i don't know i just think it's like expensive stretching like pretentious expensive stretching i just like feel like people who do yoga think they're very in shape and i don't think they are like i think that it's not exercise like i think it's fine i think we just shouldn't call it exercise we should say you're stretching yeah it's like a body maintenance practice right uh more about centering yourself i i say that as someone who's so stiff that when i started doing i'm like fuck this stuff man
Starting point is 00:18:51 but i do but i do attempt it pretty much like every other week because my i feel like my hips they're getting they're getting too tight you famously have honey on your hips miles i have honey in my hips jack but they still get tight, despite the honey. I think it's because I'm not dancing enough. That's what I need to be doing. I need to get the bees back working in the hive, if you know what I mean. I know exactly what you mean. It's interesting because I feel like I definitely am just discovering stretching like i just didn't stretch
Starting point is 00:19:26 for my entire life up to this point and therefore when like i can reach down and touch my knees that's like as far as i can bend but like i'm oh no i'm starting to stretch i yes i don't need a yoga class because i just like printed out some stretches on a piece of paper and just you use that but it is like very american to be like you you're either like not paying attention to stretching at all or it's like that's all you need just like all in this is a lifestyle now right now yeah is how much is a yoga class though oh there no you could do yoga to the people which is like free right i remember they had that in new york but i think probably like 25 i don't know 20 bucks okay i don't know i don't go i don't yeah yeah that's why i mean like that's why like anytime i've done it i'm just like youtube
Starting point is 00:20:17 there we go there's a there's a yoga class right there for free i just don't like the aesthetic i don't like the attitude i don't like you know what i mean i don't like the aesthetic i don't like the attitude i don't like you know what i mean i don't like the community like of all so it's not right it's not so much the practice it's the what what it brings out of people that you've noticed the yoga extended universe yeah i am not like i'll pass on that one the yc is it just good yeah is it the woo-woo is it the woo-woo aspect of it yeah that's some of it too just like i don't know i think that for me exercise i mean the thing is i i shouldn't care but there's some reason i find it off-putting i kind of is so like in a way that i find like burning man is sort of in the yoga extended universe a little bit
Starting point is 00:21:03 like swingers are in the Yoga Extended Universe. Mm-hmm. You know? Oh, interesting. Oh, so, like, if this is the Avengers, these are the people that come out of the portal? Yes, exactly. It's like the yoga people, the Burning Man people,
Starting point is 00:21:16 the other woo-woo crystal lovers and things like that. Oh, crystal lovers are like Spider-Man. Like, they're core to the yoga extended universe yeah you gotta have that salt lamp in there too maybe yeah they're like in polyamorous relationships you know yeah if you want to hear some interesting theories about uh the pandemic and vaccines just hit up a yoga class and just sit back. Yes, exactly. They've like gone back around from being like, so like left or right, that kind of person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah. You turn left enough, you're on the right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I don't think men should be that flexible either. I once dated this guy who was a yoga teacher and I was like, it freaked me out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:05 It's pretty good. All right. Well, there you go. I brought my leg above my head. See, that's the one thing I can do. That's how I, that's, that's, I just brought my leg above my head. That was the one thing I do to protect, like to check in with my body. And when it does that, I'm like, I don't need to go to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Like I did that. I'm good. We're good. Let me just check. Yeah, we're good here. Miles, you're having a heart attack you have you have these lesions all over your body that you can't stop scratching at i'm like that's fine but i can get my leg above my head man look at the flexibility yeah also there's
Starting point is 00:22:35 like these like little black spots on my wall in the bathroom and i whenever i breathe in there it gets a little it gets weird and i cough it up. But anyway, I get my leg behind my head. It's doing good. Yeah. I have a, I have a friend who's like super yoga, like really into it has been like telling me about it for years, trying to get everybody into it was like in a yoga magazine and also had to have like hip surgery from all the yoga that they do. So there can be too much yoga.
Starting point is 00:23:02 from all the yoga that they do. So there can be too much yoga. My cousin went from like ASU madman on campus to linen yoga man. Linen yoga madman. Yeah, he's like, yo, it's wild though. His energy, he like, he has an energy about him though. It's wild. Like ever since he like switched it up to the yoga thing,
Starting point is 00:23:23 like he'll walk in and like he, the attention that he gets like in subtle ways is really interesting i'm like he's he he's kind of yeah he's vibrating at another level but he you know he fucks he fucks with science and shit though so he's like he's all right yeah yeah i do feel like though that's if you're if you're starting your like version of the branch davidians or whatever like you would probably want to hit up a yoga class. That would be a good place to start. Yeah. They're real followers.
Starting point is 00:23:50 What is something you think is underrated? Okay. So this, I don't know if it's underrated. I just think it's like underappreciated, under watched. There's this show that I think is the best show on television. It's called Couple Therapy.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Have you ever heard of it? On VH1? On VH1? No, it's on, it's on Showtime have you ever heard of it on vh1 on vh1 no it's on it's on showtime hulu oh there was a vh1 shows a reality show called couples therapy i feel like back in the day that's when i was like yeah that shit was wild yeah 2012 is when that first season came out of that shit really so it's basically that that's what it is it's it's couples in therapy real couple it is yes and it is fucking insane so it's like you think it will be it's basically the way it's shot is it doesn't feel like it's like a documentary not a reality show because it's these couples go in there's a therapist and it just for them they're just walking into a
Starting point is 00:24:43 regular therapist office all the cameras are hit they know they're they've agreed to be filmed all the cameras are hidden like in the wall and the lamp and the desk so they know that you know when you can just tell people are aware of the camera when you watch reality shows like these people never interact with a camera in the whole process of filming so they really do kind of forget and it's so fucking riveting because you just start to realize like everybody has the same problem like we all have the same issues every couple is the same so you kind of feel like you're in therapy but i've talked to couples who've watched it together and they're like it's triggering so i would say it's triggering and we've also never
Starting point is 00:25:21 gone to couples therapy so we're gonna avoid this show to bring any awareness to our relationship. Why would you need to? You got the Showtime show. My health regimen every day. I lift my leg above my head. I watch one episode of couples therapy and I'm good. I bet every single couple's problem is probably reduced down to this. People not voicing their needs and then letting that fester and then it manifesting into other issues
Starting point is 00:25:45 because of a lack of communication i feel like that's one of the biggest problems most couples experience for like a lot you know wow that's well put like condensed yeah i mean it's true or yeah or like suppressing and also i think like lack of self-examination for some so it's like what is that quote where it's like the unexamined life is not worth living. Yeah. It's something like unexamined. It's something like the unexamined, unexamined issues,
Starting point is 00:26:13 like become the puppeteer of your life. That's not what it is, but it's some young gang quote where it's like, if you don't process something, it will actually just control you and you won't realize. Yeah. Damn. And I think there's a lot of that.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Unfortunately, that is not a problem I deal with. The only problem I deal with, I'm always yelling nothing's wrong, everything's fine. Why does everybody keep asking me that? But I'm good over here. I don't need therapy of any sort. It becomes a problem if you dwell on it. That's why I keep telling my I've been fine. I don't need therapy of any sort. Well, it becomes a problem if you dwell on it. That's why I keep telling my mom.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Let's back off. That's right. If I keep thinking about it, then it is a problem. Don't you see that? Oh, geez. I'm just trying to manifest here by ignoring my problems. All right. Let's take a quick break, and we'll come back and talk about Fox News.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Fox News. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Fox News. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture.
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Starting point is 00:29:26 recovery is possible. Find out how at startwithhope.com. Brought to you by the National Council for Mental Wellbeing, Shatterproof, and the Ad Council. And we're back. And so the Tucker Carlson leaks keep coming. These are just, again, it's like textural. It's like getting to see what he's like when he doesn't think the camera's on.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Or when he's talking about how white men should actually fight honorably. Right. Yeah, yeah. This is not how white men fight. No. But this one is more about how he is about women around women. Yeah. I mean, we talked about like, like, what was what's with the firing?
Starting point is 00:30:11 You know, like what exactly goes going down? And with the amount of these leaks that are coming out, they're sort of underscoring just how fucking gross this set is and how like misogynistic and sexist he is and just like says whatever to whoever. how like misogynistic and sexist he is and just like says whatever to whoever it sort of gives credence to you know his former booker who is suing because saying like i was subjected to a fucked up hostile workplace and at the top was tucker carlson basically like he was the one dictating all of this and so these videos have been coming out and again they're just sort of they're just proof basically you're like oh right this what the fuck is this i'll just play the latest video for you uh from the set where he's asking he's he he's like he's getting his makeup done on camera and he's asking the makeup artist a personal question as he puts it can i ask you a question you don't have to answer it's personal i'm not speaking of you but
Starting point is 00:31:00 more in general of ladies when they go to the ladies' room and powder their noses, is there actually nose powdering going on? Sometimes. Ooh. Ew. What? Most of the time it's lipstick. Do pillow fights ever break out? You don't have to?
Starting point is 00:31:15 Not in the bathroom. Okay. That'd be more a dorm activity. Okay. This is not a presiding director's territory. I'm sorry you are such a good sport such a good person thank you
Starting point is 00:31:29 I know you do but you do not deserve that and I mean it with great affection so she's like it's okay I have two brothers you can be fucking weird and he's like even then he's like no I'm a weirdo i don't
Starting point is 00:31:46 understand again pillow fights he's asking about if pillow fights are like is he stuck on some like 80s frat house shit part that got me was they do powder their nose oh yeah what was that like he was turned on by a nose powder like does he is he trying to like bring it to cocaine and like get like a little like illicit or it sounds like really like low grade game yeah yeah yeah where he's trying to be flirty oh y'all that's what y'all doing the bad do pillow fights break out yeah oh that's probably more in the door fights the most salacious thing his fucking child brain can think of like also this is so this is something uh carly we talked about how do you know greg gutfeld is like the late night comedy show host on fox news and his background was in maxim
Starting point is 00:32:34 magazine as like the editor of maxim magazine and like one of his big things was bugging the women's room like putting microphones in the women's room and then like printing the, what was said in the women's room, like without consent, there's like this child. They are like fucking seven year olds. Like they're like, what do girls do in the girls room?
Starting point is 00:32:57 Like what? Like, this is the kind of dude he was probably finding a way, drilling a hole to look into the locker room. You know what I mean? Like a junior high type shit. Porky's meatball shit. When did that happen?
Starting point is 00:33:08 Like that actually happened? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That was early 2000s. Like the early aughts. That's insane. That's crazy. I feel like the darkest interpretation of that Tucker Carlson clip is that that was his flirting.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Like I didn't even register that as a possibility until you said it. It's like, oh, that could be him trying to flirt. That's fucking terrifying. Well, because he kept being like, and you don't have to answer this. This is a little personal, but do they actually I think a producer off
Starting point is 00:33:39 camera was like, we're getting into weird territory. And he's like, I know, I know. I know, I know. You don't deserve that and like he has this weird like shame spiral thing that he's doing but so oh i like that bummed me out to a degree that will be difficult to shake off you don't need to be when someone is like applying powder to your face like in such close proximity just let it be professional and keep it moving just racked by a full body orgasm oh wow the bathroom do you guys use soap oh shit the thing is fox is fucking pissed because media matters is you know this watchdog media watchdog group they've been dropping these shits like every fucking day pretty consistently and fox is they're just basically they they have no idea what to do
Starting point is 00:34:30 to stop it um and right now they've been reduced to like begging and whining to be like please just stop the embarrassment they're just basically saying like it's not fair that's our intellectual property that you got illegally you must must stop, cease and desist. And they really have no case here, but they're trying. And the head of Media Matters, Angelo Carasone, he clapped back quite elegantly, saying that, you know, reporting on newsworthy leaked material is actually the cornerstone of journalism. And then he went on to fully dunk on them by saying, quote, perhaps if I tell them that the footage came from a combination of WikiLeaks and Hunter Biden's laptop, it will alleviate their concerns to which there was no response. employees like girlfriends and saying that they're yummy and then realizes that this might be on fucking media matters and immediately is like i mean fuck media matters it's very
Starting point is 00:35:31 uh it's kind of very meta yeah i'm not you know what i'm not qualified on that score i will say i thought his girlfriend was kind of yummy yummy just kidding just kidding in case you're being pulled off the bird yeah the bird hey media matters for america go fuck yourself that's the first thing i want to say tonight second thing is totally kidding i don't even know what his girlfriend looks like and if i did i would not find her yummy gross okay wait so tucker so Tucker Carlson can see through time. He's like a time lord. Yeah. Yummy, again, there's something with the infantilization,
Starting point is 00:36:16 like baby talk, like, mmm, yummy, mommy. It's just, I don't know, man. So this is the kind of shit that people are subjected to over there and uh it sort of stands to reason that when you have clips like this it makes that case look much stronger and when you look at the long line of shitty men that have been on camera at fox and even worked there that they're like fuck man this is another fucking settlement we're gonna have to pay out on top of the dominion one. That was $787 million. So to me, it sounds like now they're cutting their losses
Starting point is 00:36:49 because they're like, yeah, these accusations are probably true enough that we're going to have to deal with them and the fallout. But I don't know. He said some such other horrible shit on air that it's really hard to reckon what exactly their reasoning is. But it seems like there's a good case for this one is it the woman like the there's like someone that works there sued him right like this yeah the former talent booker yeah he just seems so char like unfunny
Starting point is 00:37:16 like i think also in those clips he thinks he's being funny yeah he thinks he's fucking hilarious like he's got this like smug smile on his face the whole time he's just it's i think it's just kind of the thing too where you're you're them you're he's the the head of the universe at fox you know and on his own show who's gonna be like male that shit wasn't funny man shut up yeah you know everyone's like oh tucker oh and that just gives more momentum to his ego to just be further untethered and just do whatever the fuck it's going to do, I guess. All right. Let's talk about drag queens in the military.
Starting point is 00:37:54 The Navy is despite, you know, Tom Cruise's best efforts and Top Gun 2. They did a whole Top Gun, which like the last time they did it, it saved naval recruitment. Naval recruitment shot through the roof. This time, the movie was a massive hit, but everyone was like, it was fun to watch. I'm not going to join the Navy now. Still major slump in recruitment. Did you see the volleyball? What's that?
Starting point is 00:38:21 Did you see the volleyball? Yeah. You still don't want to join? No. Yeah, well, I mean this one had a two-way football so oh shit okay i think it was his high-waisted jeans that fucked people up they were like no no thank you but so they're they're trying new things they're doing like a social media like influencer campaign with active duty officers. And one of them is a drag queen, Harpy Daniels, that is one of five people tapped to be one of the Navy's new digital ambassadors, which, by the way, not a paying gig. Oh, really? It's just they get to help the
Starting point is 00:39:02 military because, well, you have to, the military only has more funding than anything in America. We're dealing with limited budgets here. How are they supposed to pay for this sort of thing? Yeah, Jesus. But people on the right predictably freaked the fuck out. One of the SEAL Team 6 guys tweeted, I can't believe I fought for this bullshit. This is the same guy who proudly tweeted a photo of himself on a flight with no mask on during the thick of the pandemic with the caption i'm not a pussy
Starting point is 00:39:30 yep because science is for that yeah sure whatever that's cool man i'm sure you're probably i know you haven't spent much time thinking about how the united states military used you in service of a big big oil grab over there. But hey, it's all good. You're not a pussy. I'm not a pussy. I'll kill your grandmother for the right to not be inconvenienced while watching the movie yesterday and eating a bag of pretzels. That's how tough I am.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Yes. Yeah, I don't know. The right people on the right are claiming it will only hurt recruitment because drag queen shows have no place in our military. Hold on. I even know that's so far off. Okay, go on. Yeah. A history lesson.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I mean, we'll start with more recently. We'll start with more recently. The hugely popular drag show on military bases in 2015, positively reported on by that liberal rag Stars and Stripes, the internal military publication. Apparently, they couldn't print enough tickets for this show, which was six service members, gay, lesbian, and straight, wearing heavy makeup to dance and lip sync songs such as I Want to Dance
Starting point is 00:40:46 with Somebody. It's funny, like they're describing like a drag show. But like they're hearing about it for the first time. Six service members donned heavy makeup to dance and lip sync songs. With wigs and all. And different names than their usuals. And
Starting point is 00:41:01 then there's just like a long history of this. Like going back to the men wearing, quote, exaggerated feminine attire. Feminine attire dates back to the 1800s in the Navy. Drag shows were a huge part of military culture during World War II. where gruff GIs dressed in tutus while still wearing their army boots. There were comedic routines in which soldiers impersonated female stars of the period. And it's not, it's like when you read the writing about it, like the people are, it's not like this is ridiculous. It's funny because it's ridiculous. They're like, they brought a boot, a beauty to the like performances and like we're very skilled and so it's just i don't know it's a we we've gone backwards somehow to a place where like you can't appreciate
Starting point is 00:41:54 this and any act of inclusivity has to be part of some massive conspiracy that you're not in on according to these people it's just wild to like think of like it does whatever anything that they see is falling under like the woke umbrella they'll immediately lose their shit over even if it's something that like already has enough momentum culturally within like the things that they're into, like the fucking military. And still be like, oh, no, no, what's this? It's like, yeah, I did drag when I was enlisted, but that was different. Yeah. That was fucking different, okay?
Starting point is 00:42:33 Or when my grandfather did it in World War II, that was because it was different. It was stressful during wartime. Now this stuff, I don't know, it's just a bridge too far. Entertainers were not stigmatized because of their perceived or real sexual identities. Instead, the feminine nature of the illusionists and characterists acts were held up as beautiful. That is from a feminist work of theory called, oh wait, no, that's just from the National World War II Museum. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Yeah. It's just, they weren't fucking assholes at the time, it turns out. There are literally pictures of men in dresses gunning down Nazi planes because they were
Starting point is 00:43:16 in the middle of a drag show and got interrupted by a German air raid and had to go out and, you know, man giant guns on the side of these fucking warships and yeah yeah people were like that's pretty cool hey man that's pretty cool hey that's pretty cool if only tom cruise didn't fuck us over with this latest top gun you wouldn't have to resort to this
Starting point is 00:43:37 stuff i mean it's just wild though too like they're in this thing where they're trying to figure out how to get more recruits and they're trying to do things that would seemingly say like hey we're in like maybe you want to join and don't look into the part where maybe you're going to get caught up in fighting a war like an empirical war for us but hey this is something i don't know it's just it just baffles me the the recruitment strategy overall and also not really understanding that most young people are just not interested in military service as they learn that, like, you know, when you come back as a veteran, it doesn't seem like the care is too great. And on top of it, like what, if you're end up, you know, a lot of the people that they're looking for are people who are the most financially desperate to end up serving and things like that, that they're just,
Starting point is 00:44:24 you know, they're still, I don't know, it's just maybe they can attract them with movie stuff. Yeah. Taking care of veterans, that that would be a interesting recruitment tactic. Maybe if it's pitched to them that way, they would actually. Right. Yeah. Like, well, I've seen have you seen that one commercial where I think there are people
Starting point is 00:44:43 like these like sort of millennial age people are like around a campfire and like they're talking about how they own homes and it's because they're in the military. And they're like, what? They're like, yeah, because of the military. And like they're sort of using that sort of carrot on a stick now, like homeownership to like inspire enlistment. I know you can go to, I feel like you can go to college, right? That's why historically, like, poor people have joined the military because you can get a college education. But I don't know how that I mean, maybe that then leads to homeownership. But I don't know, most of my friends who have college educations don't own homes. So I don't think it works that way. Honestly.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I think that's why they're like, see, do it this way. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, here it is. Here. I'll just play it for you. It's like... So we're getting that house we told you guys about.
Starting point is 00:45:34 You're buying a house? Yeah. Soldiers get VA loan guarantees. Yeah, no money down. Well, my office gives us free bagels. Goarmy.com That's kind of funny, actually. It's about loan.
Starting point is 00:45:50 That was a great joke. It's about loans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we can get sick loans. But hey, I get bagels. Low interest loan, yeah. Alright. Well, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about Guardians of the Galaxy 3.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Fuck yeah. Yeah. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion
Starting point is 00:46:32 became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way.
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Starting point is 00:48:54 is that his name peter quill what is that that's a star lord that's a oh my bad i didn't mean to ask that. Like, I really didn't know. I'm like, who the fuck is that? Who the fuck is Peter Quill? Oh, that's Chris Pratt. Okay. Yeah, Chris Pratt's character. And everyone's talking. I'm sure by the time you hear this, we're recording this before the weekend. I'm sure everyone's talking about how it broke all the records at the box office.
Starting point is 00:49:20 And they're probably also talking about that big F-bomb baby Chris Pratt drops says fuck in a Marvel movie. It's the first time anyone's done that. Pratt even claimed that Marvel head honcho Kevin Feige warned director James Gunn not to do it. the story goes that Kevin Feige talked to James Gunn and said, listen, you don't want to be the guy who who's known for having the first F word in your movie. Pratt recalled. And James was like, yes, I do. Don't you know me? That's exactly what I want. And so they kept it in. What is he like? Something about that story that doesn't ring true. First of all, yes, he is a youth pastor. And no, Kevin Feige or whatever from Marvel, who's like, hey, man, you don't want that. You don't want to be the you don't want toige or whatever marvel who's like hey man you don't want that you don't want to be the you don't want to be the first kid who smoked a cigarette you don't want that going on everyone's record it's like yeah actually you don't know me that's exactly what i fucking want yeah okay all right well i don't know there's just something about this whole
Starting point is 00:50:18 thing that and also like they do it they're, the funniest part is that we like, he just says, open the fucking door at one point. Like, it's just, he just kind of throws it in there. And it's like, why is it a big deal? How come there were so many headlines about this? Because it's the first time it's been done in a Marvel movie. And because people need shit to write about. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 clip teases the MCU's first F-bomb. Guardians of the Galaxy 3 will have MCU's first F-bomb.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And here it is. Chris Pratt jokes about delivering Marvel's first F-bomb. Take that, Samuel L. Jackson. Okay, we're getting really excited about this. Yeah, it means nothing. This is the director. Yeah, it means nothing. It's a silly thing.
Starting point is 00:51:02 But what makes it so funny is that it is so thrown away and out of nowhere and it's so low-key like first of all like there's just something about this that feels so like kids swearing in front of their parents because they think it's cool yeah like have you ever had like a friend whose parents let them swear and then the kid like just like goes out of their way to do it and it just like makes them seem like they don't know how to swear yeah like whatever mom give me the fucking whatever mom this spaghetti i don't want to eat this spaghetti it's shits it's shits yeah what's that yeah like i don't know i'm just throwing stuff out there yeah like. Like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Did he just say that? It's just like the giddiness of everyone, even Gunn, who's like, I don't know what makes it so funny. It's like, it's out of nowhere. Yeah. What? I don't know. I feel like it'd be funnier if he did it in a funny way.
Starting point is 00:51:59 But yeah, it's not funnier that he does it in a thrown away, pointless way. I'm probably the worst person to comment on this because I didn't even know who Peter Guns is. Or I mean Peter Quill. Peter Quill, the Star Lord? Not Lord Tariq and Peter Guns from that group. Uptown, baby. People said that he's funny or fun or good. I mean, I liked the first one.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I saw the first one. The second one, everyone said was bad. And I was out on Marvel movies around that time. Again, it's like my anxiety with anything. When I get overwhelmed with IP, I just abandon it. Yeah. I'm like, I can't keep up with this. How excited are you, Carly, for Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and hearing the word fuck?
Starting point is 00:52:43 I, like, truly didn't even, I don't even know what Guardians of the Galaxy is. I know that sounds like it's a lie, but it truly isn't. I just feel like there's this whole world of superhero movies that I just am so disconnected from that I don't even know what they are. Like I know obviously
Starting point is 00:53:00 what Star Wars is, but like I've never seen it. You've never seen any of Star Wars? No. Damn. You've never seen any Star Wars? No. Damn. You are cool. I mean, I knew you. I could tell you were cool just based on your podcast and just general vibe, but you've never even seen Star Wars. Damn. And you said fuck right
Starting point is 00:53:18 when you got the call. Yeah, you did say fuck at one point, and I was like, whoa. That's fucking cool. You know, it's the thing where I don't, the, where Bradley Cooper is a raccoon. Does that ring a bell? Um,
Starting point is 00:53:32 no. Is that a thing? I am Groot. Yo, I fucking love you, Carly. Wait, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:53:43 There's, so Bradley Cooper is the voice of what of Rocket Raccoon. And like, have you not? Have you seen this character at all? No. You know this? Have you seen Groot? It's a tree voiced by Vin Diesel.
Starting point is 00:53:57 He says, I am Groot over and over again. That's not true. Yeah. Oh, it's so true and it's one of the most it's one of the most selling but highest selling products out there what's the movie called guardians of the galaxy that's guardians oh my god crazy galaxy is a movie about a talking tree yes indeed i mean it's a yeah i mean to be fair it's a it's a it's a ragtag group of superheroes like a talking raccoon and a tree and and chris pratt uh famous youth pastor so yeah yeah it's all i mean it's all part of the infantilization of america and american culture like that i would say that's the theme of today's episode for me is like Tucker Carlson
Starting point is 00:54:46 being like yummy what do girls do in the bathroom and then like Chris Pratt being like we said fuck you know in a movie man is that crazy I yeah I mean we hate trans people drag queens are the one
Starting point is 00:55:00 basically like I'm trying to think of something where like i like a series i was invested enough where like them saying fuck on it would be like yo that's that's the ticket like the night rider if like kit had started saying fuck like that would have been something right right power rangers Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if Zordon said fuck, I'd be like, whoa, okay. Or Rita Repulsa said fuck. What the fuck is this shit?
Starting point is 00:55:34 Wait, what? What the fuck is this shit? Yeah, exactly. Power Rangers redubbed. And this is Power Rangers for a whole new generation. So I get it. And this is Power Rangers for a certain point growing up watching stuff, I'm very aggressive, like, that's for babies.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And now I'm watching, like, shit adults watch. And yeah, I fuck with adult themes to the point where now when I see people who are like, they're going to say fuck, I'm like, yo, I've been saying fuck since 84. You know, like, get your fucking hat on. And I guess that's like more my cynicism, like, aimed at that than anything. Carly, I mean, you write about sex and, you know, like, get your fucking hat on. And I guess that's, like, more my cynicism, like, aimed at that than anything. Carly, I mean, you write about sex and, you know, sexual mores in the
Starting point is 00:56:30 Breathless column and just for as part of your career. Like, do you see, like, any trends towards, like, infantilization or, like, weird, like, anything like that like do you do you track trends across like see see things starting to pop up more and more like in in culture no i think like something that we try to talk about a little bit on the podcast too is almost a reclaiming of more traditional ideas of relationships i feel like what we look back on is like the club started in 2013 and around that time it's like people just started talking about non-monogamy in a more mainstream way and like 50 shades had come out the year before and like everyone went fucking snm crazy like suddenly like you could be like a basic bitch buying like a paddle and victoria's secret or whatever you know
Starting point is 00:57:25 and like it was the beginning of people thinking differently about like sexual exploration or like the structure of a relationship but now i feel like there's been a bore of a backlash when people are like um now monogamy actually didn't work like we thought we were going to be like the progressive generation that it's you know had models of relationships that are more realistic that our parents couldn't have had and i think everyone's like actually lols no it doesn't work if you like want to have a stable relationship and a kid and i think people are i don't know moving back toward accepting more traditional domestic right it's just my age but do you see that well i mean yeah there's because even like like all the trad wife yeah yeah yeah i mean like there's it's weird how like
Starting point is 00:58:13 also to how i think the economy is also affecting or people's idea for their kind of mobility is affecting those like norms too because i i feel like when you, there's, there's a lack of opportunity or something, you're like, why can't it just be simple? You know, why can't I just do this? Why can't I just go to work and come back and then there's food or whatever. And I think maybe that's something that's giving people more comfort, I guess, like, I don't know. It's, but I do, I definitely see that, that uptick in things. And it's probably probably just as it's probably just a predictable you know backlash to any kind of progress we've seen societally it's like you're always going to just see some people just kind of clawing it back to be like no no i'd rather stay at home
Starting point is 00:58:54 or i'd rather just be the guy who person who goes to work and it doesn't have to engage much with child rearing because that's what i do i gotta focus on fucking earning right yeah i think so too i think it is an economic thing i think people are like i think when you're unstable right like financially you don't we're never gonna be able to you know our generation like dealt with two of the biggest economic fucking nightmares in a row that's so hard for us to just like own a home and like have a stable job or pay for a kid it's like you don't on top of that want to be like maybe i'll be polyamorous actually it's like yo i've got enough fucking problems without that and i also think the pandemic like reoriented people as domestic you know what i mean it's like speaking of trad wife it's like everyone's like oh i bake bread now and you know i make the new allison robin cabbage recipe and i think that's what we love
Starting point is 00:59:51 yeah right yeah well they need more f words and guardians of the galaxy yeah yeah that's it that that's what is so brave about this decision to say that f word and guardians of the galaxy is it's going against all these traditional values that are storming back. And that's why I think Chris, Chris Pratt is a revolutionary. So Carly, such a pleasure having you on the show.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Where can people find you, follow you, hear you all that good stuff. Well, you can listen to sanctum on mass wherever you get your podcasts or i'm carly slut ever on instagram there it is i regret that handle but whatever it's branding it's branding is there a work of media that you've been enjoying yeah i mean actually realistically i don't think this is gonna hit for your audience now that i've been on the podcast and see what your show and see what it's like.
Starting point is 01:00:45 But I do love the podcast. Every outfit. It's about fashion and sex in the city. You guys think your listeners care about that? Oh, we look weird. Are you saying that we don't give off vibes as like people who are very fashion forward? Hold on. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:01:02 Like, you know, OK, do you know between Jack and I who the Samantha is? You. Okay. You're right. Because I do have to smoke weed before I have sex. Just like she did in that one episode. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, we're very Sex and the City oriented on this show. Are you? Yeah. It's a staple show. And we definitely watched the, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:25 the, what do we keep calling it? So that happened. And just like that, yeah. So this, these people, these Every Alpha Girls, they became really successful because they were doing and just like that episode recaps.
Starting point is 01:01:37 And they were so much better than the show. So I'm so excited for and just like that to come back so I can hear their recap episodes. Right. Right. Yeah. Back in June. Are you guys counting down the days?
Starting point is 01:01:49 Oh, hell yeah. Oh, hell yeah. I am actually. We, that was among the shows that we covered the most on. Well, cause then also, yeah. Cause the Che Diaz discourse took over a lot of episodes too, as we had a lot of comedians on too. And just like, we're all talking about like stand-up or like
Starting point is 01:02:05 just like the way different communities were represented in that show and such the most the weirdest ways like we get it the show's been white af forever now watch this watch this bumble through the scene with charlotte talking with like black intellectuals i know like every character now gets their own like poc emotional support like animal basically yeah it is very yeah they all need like that character that helps them be like and i'm less white because of knowing this person right but they all get like one it's so awkward it's so awkward oh my god right because who's like one is is like the real estate agent, right? Right. Seema.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Yeah, and that's who's that. That's for Carrie. Yeah. And then Samantha, or not Samantha. She ain't it. Charlotte is like the black woman who's like the kid, like they go to the same school, right? That other parent, that other mom. And then Miranda has Che.
Starting point is 01:03:01 And her black professor. Oh, that's right. I feel like Sarah Jessica Parker has Che, right? Well, Miranda's dating Che. Che's in between. Oh, I only watched a couple episodes. Oh, Jack. I know, I fucked up.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Oh, man. Because it gets wild, too. Because Steve, man. Steve's really ass out here after a while. I know. Steve's the hottest character in the whole show, I think. Still, even with his age. Even with his what?
Starting point is 01:03:31 Were you about to come after his hearing loss? Yeah, well, I just feel like that's how they set him up. He's like, he's old and she's over him because he's old. Oh, well, yeah, they do him kind of dirty. I don't know. I mean, I guess I have to really think. Did they do him kind of dirty. I don't know. I mean, I guess I have to really think, did they do Steve dirty? Because I feel like, wasn't he just trying to be like,
Starting point is 01:03:49 yo, I like having ice cream with you and like a predictable life. And she's like, I need more. Get the fuck out of here, Steve. Well, that sucks, Steve. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, he's being fingered by like a day, like weed addict.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Yeah, right, right, right. All right, Miles, where can people find you? Is there work in media you've been enjoying? At Miles of Gray where they have at symbols. Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad boosties. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Getting less fan service. Yeah, yeah. Well, especially now. I was like, yeah like yeah man game two is looking good for the lakers spoiler it was not uh but as of this recording we'll see what happens in game three i could be even further down the black pit of despair of being a laker fan but who knows uh and also if you like to hear me talk about 90 day fiance and other trash reality shows check out sophie alexandra and i out on 420 day fiance where we get smoked up on that loud and just rant about this nonsense and then let's see a tweet i like
Starting point is 01:04:52 one was just man like just following the the wga strike stuff it's wild like i don't know if you saw the the head of the teamsters the west coast teamsters this one was lindsey doherty she's got a jimmy hoffa tattoo like on her bicep. And she's like, she's like, we're not. She's like, those trucks aren't crossing the fucking picket lines like the studios are going to learn. They want to fuck around. They can find out. And everyone's like, yeah, it's wild.
Starting point is 01:05:16 And then also just shout out Adam Conover. He had a really great like this clip of him kind of going viral of him speaking outside of one of the picket lines. And I'll play a little bit of you. It's just it's just really interesting talking about his perspective about like having to strike and pick it and just kind of what's going on with this. But here, let me just play a little bit of this from Adam Conover. These shows, I don't want to do this. None of us want to be here.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Right. But as it became clear that this is what they were going to force us to do it started to feel to me to be a really beautiful opportunity because you know we all really feel like the world is fucked up you know that like things are things are wrong in america and we have the opportunity here to go and actually fix one of them with our collective action like the guild is asking me to come out here every day and picket for four hours. And if I do that, I can help stop Teamster trucks from going into that building and we can halt productions. And that'll shorten the strike. And that'll make them come to the table. And that'll make them cut the workers in on their profits.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And I get to actually move the boulder of how fucked up things are in America by showing up here with a sign that's incredible how many issues are there that you care about that you would like to do something about but there's nowhere you can show up with a sign to do it you can't show up with a sign to climate change you can join you can go join sunrise movement and stuff like that right but like you don't have we don't get these opportunities often in life to step up and actually fucking do something so yeah that's pretty cool yeah i mean i think it's it's anyway this is uh as things accelerate and you just see too how like cynical the studio heads are it's like man yeah fucking destroy these people like
Starting point is 01:06:56 get get get fucking yours writers get fucking doors get it all right uh tweet i've been enjoying at world of echo tweeted it was the bust of rhymes it was the worst of rhymes you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we are at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website
Starting point is 01:07:18 dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes on our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what's a song we think people might enjoy? I think you're going to like this track from one of my favorite sort of newer jazz guitarist, Mansour Brown.
Starting point is 01:07:37 It's called No Way. It's sort of like flamenco-y guitar playing, but like over a beat that kind of is like timberlandy i don't know he's just a very interesting artist uh so if you like any like you know talented guitar players and you like a little hip-hop check out this track it's called no way by mansour brown all right we will link off to that in the footnotes the daily deck is the production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast wherever you listen to your favorite shows that That's going to do it for us
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