The Daily Zeitgeist - Frosty The F**k Boi, Media Scapegoating Continues… 10.25.24

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

In episode 1765, Miles and guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan are joined by creator and writer of The RedDot Comic, Kim Winder, to discuss… Rather Than All Of The Preemptive Scapegoating Of Black And Arab Voters…Look At The Media Libs, Netflix Made A Movie About a Magically F**kable Snowman, No... The Internet Isn’t Ruining Halloween and more! Black Philly Voters: Kamala Doesn't Have What It Takes To Run America! Alfeia “Alfe” Goodwin for U.S. Congress (PA-5) Fox News edited Trump’s rambling answers and false claims in barbershop interview, full video shows Netflix Made A Movie About a Magically F**kable Snowman Trailer: Hot Frosty | Lacey Chabert | Official Trailer | Netflix Hallmark Did Not Want to Cast ‘Old People’ Like Holly Robinson Peete and Lacey Chabert, Suit Claims The Chronically Online Have Stolen Halloween Mood Deng Make-Up TikTok How internet memes took over Halloween: Inside the holiday's latest costume evolution People suddenly want to dress up like Donald Trump the McDonald's fry cook for Halloween Halloween Costumes That Disguised, Spooked and Thrilled Through the Ages: Photos This Little Boy Dressed Up For Halloween As A Pair Of Pants. That's Right, Pants. LISTEN: Metamorphosis by Infinity SongSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey, just so you know, I know somebody who went to go see Moodang. Really? Yeah. How is she? Yeah. Seemed like it was okay. Seemed like it was okay. The person I think just happened to be in the part of Thailand to do it.

It wasn't like they went to go see Moodang. So I don't know if they, the reaction seemed very like casual. Okay, my eyes are getting watery already. Like I'm getting emotional. I'm not even. It's just somebody casually like, oh, I guess we can go check out like, recent look-a-day. No, I'm just thinking about Mudeng

right now and I'm just getting very emotional. I love how your fucking love of Mudeng has not wavered in any measurable sense. It's wild. I saw someone be like, Moodang really fell off. And then somebody was like, people demand too much of female celebrities.

I was like, that is so true. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. And we are super excited to tell you about our new show Dudes on Dudes. We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly just having a blast talking football. Every week we're discussing our favorite players of all times from legends to our buddies to current stars. We're finally answering the age old question.

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This is America's only undecided podcast. Where undecided was Arnold Palmer's junk big or small? We don't know these are the details. We're looking for when considering a presidential candidate This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. It's Friday. Oh, I love saying that it's Friday October 25th 2024 oh Man, we only got a few more days to the election But that does mean it is national Frankenstein Friday shout out all the Frankensteins national breadstick

day national greasy foods day and Chuckie the notorious killer doll day oh also national pharmacy buyer day wait what is a farm oh maybe the person who buys on behalf of the pharmacy okay that probably makes sense that probably makes sense but enough about that more about me Myles Gray, today's host, aka I said, maybe he's nibbling on mouse meat so tasty. And after all, Carville has a throw peak. Y'all That was a reference to the wonderful J. Kovil Mouse Meat thing I was doing the other day. And that actually comes to us from Zach Van Nuss

on the Discord server. Thank you, Zach Van Nuss. Here, who am I joined with in my guest co-host seat? Well, it's a wonderful comedian, writer, scientist, activist, just wonderful person. You can catch them in their monthly show, facial recognition comedy. I like to know them as the day one for Moodang.

Anything that is about Moodang, I have to run through this person. When there are Moodang memes, I didn't even know existed or were relevant to me. They do me the honor by sending them to me on Twitter, and we have nice back and forths, okay? But I am thrilled and honored to be joined by today's guest cohost, Pauly B. Gnodwin!

Moodang for life, bitches! I'm gonna get like knuckle tats, moodang. Oh shit, that'll fit M-O-O-D-E-N-G with an exclamation for it. Almost, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like with a little- So it's gonna be moodang? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like with a little. So could it be mood, ang? Oh yeah, or moo, or do moo with a little. With a little hippo.

Little hippo and then dang. Hell yeah. I'm not a tattoo designer, but look I think that is a good idea. Graphic design is my passion, what? No, no, I was gonna be like, you wouldn't really get it, would you? Maybe?

How much do you get? If moodang passed away, memorialize that shit? Oh no, don't say that. I will burst into tears at any moment. Earlier you were like, I'm coming so hard for Moodang. But Moodang will grow up, right? Yeah, but so what? Fritz the hippo from the Cincinnati Zoo grew up

and he is, or he's gotten bigger. It's taken a while, but he's still like out to antics, you know, and his mom, Fiona, we love her. Yeah. So your love for Moudang will not waver based on how grown like it's not that you're just in love with a baby Moudang. You will take Moudang. OK. Yeah. And I feel like Moudang's like viewpoints are like pretty great. You know, she's pro Palestine, et cetera. Yes, I saw that. Yeah.

Also, I want to say Wonderwall, right? Oasis, right? I follow a dog rescuer who adopted one of his dogs out to a Gallagher. Which one? Not Liam, the other one. Noel. Noel, yeah. Oh, that's kind of cool. So I'm like following Noel Gallagher's like dog's journey. Wow. So you're all about respecting an animal's journey. I love that. Yeah. Respect for all living things. Respect for all living things.

Hell yeah. Well, Pauly V, we are joined today by one of the, someone I haven't spoken to in a while, and I'm so glad they're back. First fell in love with the comic, and I'm sure many of you have as well, the red dot. I do like anthropomorphized bee plugs, another specialty. Okay, this is someone who has look is just is mighty with the pen and fantastic with the words. Please welcome to the stage the fantastic illustrator and I would say comedian as well because there's so much humor in these guys you have to it's inevitable it's inevitable they go hand in hand please welcome

Kim Winder. Thank you. AKA once upon a midnight query as I draw weak and wary I nod nearly napping suddenly came a tapping a tapping at my mind not to ignore suddenly the thought did I lock my front door? Yo, I do that so I do that so much whenever I leave that. Sometimes I'm not afraid. I'm not. I guess I am afraid to admit it. But I'm going to admit it. I'll do like a I'll go up

this. I'll be up the street leaving my house. I'm like, I probably forgot and I go back. It's locked. But whatever in my mind that that doubt it creeps in. I do that. And then I also I've brought my curling iron with me. What do you mean? Like in the car? Like if I curl my hair, yeah. If it's still hot, I don't wanna come down

to a burned down house. Oh, so not only do you unplug it, you bring it with you. Yep. So now I know it's unplugged. I do that with my stove. Because it's in my freaking car. I do that with my stove. You bring your stove with you? I bring my whole stove in the car.

I can't trust it. Wait, so then you'll hold on to it kind of like just like in one hand other hand on the steering wheel my passenger princess like just sitting there oh but it's not enough to like melt your car no no it's totally off curling iron it's in its own like car seat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but I mean, if like, if the fear is the heat could cause a, you know, pyrotechnic event in the home, then wouldn't that stand to reason that?

Growing up, yeah, my mom left her curling iron on and we had to go like 60 miles to get to school. So if we're halfway to school and my mom will realize like, oh crap, I left the curling iron on, it's a gamble. Right, right. So yeah, it's just like those little micro fears. Right. And I don't do it nearly as much anymore,

but occasionally it happens. Okay, well it's good to know. I think you should just get a mobile curling iron, do your hair in the car while you're driving Eliminate the fire and also increase the risk While I drive Yeah, that's the kind of she end up on reddit They're like look at this motherfucker curling their hair and two handing a bowl of cereal at the same time

I'm like a woman leave her alone a bowl of cereal at the same time. I'm like, that's a woman. Leave her alone. Yeah. I am powerful. So I'm both of you. That's called a patriarchy. Got them fucked up.

I know. Yeah. I know. Well, Kim, it's great having you. We want to give everyone a little bit of a sneak peek about what we're talking about today. I see a lot of hand-wringing from the media about stuff of like, well, how will Black and Arab voters vote?

What is going to happen in this election? And I'm like, rather than all the preemptive scapegoating, which I'm becoming very tired of, maybe look at the media too, because they definitely have a hand in fucking around with this election. More so than- Which Arabs in the media are responsible for this? Yeah, I know. Which black people in the media? Which Arabs? Like, whoa, whoa, what the fuck? Was it Ta-Nehisi Coates' fault?

I never trusted that Al Jazeera. Okay, you know what? Never mind. You're right. You're right. We're also going to talk about, we like to talk about anthropomorphized things, and I think with Kim's creativity, this story would really resonate. Netflix has made a movie that is going to be coming out.

Look, I love holiday films about a very fuckable snowman. So or maybe not, depending on your taste. But we will talk about this film. Then just as we get closer to Halloween, we're about six days away from Halloween. Not about we are literally six days away from Halloween. Just want to check in with some of the things that are happening around Halloween. Like the police are up at it with some really stupid ass community events that make no fucking sense at all. Plus the Atlantic, which my god, what a nose dive they've taken as an outlet. They also have this fucking like really weird article that's like

on the internet is completely ruined Halloween. I think we just need to kind of dive into that and dissect what that exactly means because I don't really agree with it at all But first before we do any of that Kim we got to ask you what is something from your search history That's revealing about who you are or what you're into right now Fencing lessons. I was gonna say you were saying her pen is is mighty and I'm like What if she owns a sword you don't know and now she's like fencing lesson? Um, yeah, I'm doing oh shit Okay, go wait for you or oh, yeah for me Yeah, like it was one of those things like growing up. I want to like know how to use a freaking sword

but it's one of those like Activities after school activities that were way too expensive for a family of six. So now that most people generally I would say like, oh, it's still very fucking expensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was like a really wealthy school that we used to compete with in elementary school and they had a fencing team and that's when I was like, oh yeah, yeah, we're poor. Like this is this is some other shit. But go on. Are they made out of mithril? What's so expensive about fencing? I don't know. I think I don't know.

No, like it. You have a thin piece of metal. Yeah. And you wear a white outfit and basically, like, just mesh on your face. I don't know. I think it's the prestige. But I looked it up because we recently moved to Reno. And I need to get myself out there. Yeah. And I'm like, fuck it. Let's see if they got fencing. And they do for adults, like beginner fencing. So I'm not like having to stab all these little kids, which would be fun. Yeah, that right.

It'd be dope as hell if you were a mother fucker on guard. What shit? You're a six year old. Wait, do they say en garde? Is en garde part of that or is that just what we used to say? No, that is. Okay. I have no idea what it means.

Well, I guess en garde means like be ready. Yeah, right? Yeah. Get on your guard. You know what I mean? Turn your guard on. Post stuff. Yeah.

Exactly. And what do the prices look like for fencing? It's still like for a package class, it looked like around $2,000 for like two months, but they also had the equipment and everything. Yeah. Oh, and you get your own shit like that's your like you get your outfit and helmet and. Or you're like rentals. Foil rather. Foil, rapier. What is it? A foil, right?

There's multiple sword types, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a specific one. Well, this is like the Olympic, right? Decorative samurai sword. Yeah, you know, like, whoa, you cut your partner's forearm off. That's going to be three thousand dollars. Yeah. Man, did you watch any fencing in during the Olympics? Because I remember there was like, wasn't there one dude who like rejected the results?

Like he was adamant that he fit. Yeah. Like full on toddler screaming, crying. Yeah, I watched that a few times just because it's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's a cool sport. Fencing. Yeah, I like that.

You saw that and you're like, that could be me. That could be me. I could be throwing that hissy fit. sport. Fencing. Yeah, I like that. You saw that and you're like, that could be me. I could be throwing that hissy fit. I could do that on the world stage. No problem. Right. Kim, what's something you think is underrated? State holidays, because today is Nevada Day.

Did you guys know Nevada has its own holiday? I had no idea. What do you do to celebrate? Do you gamble? Are the banks closed? Traditionally, you go to brothels, gamble, pay tithings to- That's like every state. Yeah.

Well, when I moved to California, I was like, when's California Day? And California doesn't have a California Day, but Nevada Day does. Yeah. So, yeah, I thought California would have a California day because in Nevada on Nevada Day, it is like, like a federal holiday, all the banks are closed, DMV is closed, so like that. Yeah, so I was waiting for California Day because you know, everyone wants an extra day off. It never

fucking came. And I realized it was not every state has it. But not every state feels special like California every day. That's what I'm saying is not every state needs one, you know, feel good about ourselves. Yeah, Vegas. But everyone is Vegas. The rest of us need to feel like Clark County is getting all the fucking attention. You know, isn't that the county that Vegas is in? I think so. Yeah, I'm just going to say that as if I know. I'm pretty sure it is. Yep, it is. Yeah. I don't know why we don't have

I mean, I probably because we also respect a lot of other holidays that I'm sure other states wouldn't because you know, like some places are like MLK day, even though we're like, I think we should all, what are we really not going to? OK. That seems kind of fucked up. Yeah, I'm pretty sure like Indigenous People's Day went right over most people's heads here. Yeah, right. Even though we have a really large community of that.

Right. It probably depends on the governor and their outlook and like, it's still Columbus Day. We still like Italian Genocider Day. OK. It's one of our favorites. Mamma mia. Shout out the Colombian exchange though, for without which the world might not have potatoes.

What's something you think is overrated, Kim? Fall harvest activities. Like how people go out apple picking. No, that shit sucks. Like if you actually have to harvest like I did this year, because my parents own grapevines and we picked wine, that shit is hard. It is not fun. Right. Don't do that. You think people are cosplaying as-

Basically, they want their Instagram pictures and they want their 10 apples and that's it. It's over. Yeah. I did that with strawberries in Japan and I do it again. There's a place you can pick strawberries? And they're like so delicious. They're so most fresh, delicious. I like cosplaying as though I'm doing hard work. You know, like I don't want to knit, knit for a living.

In fairness, the fruit is amazing. Like actual fresh fruit, I ate more grapes than I picked. Right. But going out and then- The children yearn for the fruit. I ate more grapes than I picked. Right. But going out and then. Yearn for the fruit. Yeah. But you get sticky and it's hot and it's just no, no. I appreciate being pampered with my grocery stores. Right. Sure.

We were just talking about how like pumpkin patches are just like a total like cosplay LARP scam where they're just like, yeah, we'll just dirty up these pumpkins and put them on the ground. You're like, hey, pick one of these. This patch just opened up where we dropped the pumpkins. Oh, seriously. They grew here. Yeah. Yeah.

Cause I mean, I mean, like to actually cut a fresh pumpkin, like you have to get through that really thick stem and stuff. And they're like that people can't do that shit. So we just, we let them come by and pick them or charge. They like a family friendly thing where you just let your kids run around some pumpkin. Look, look, as somebody with a little baby, I'm not going to front. I'm going to have to go do my do my thing. I had to take my pictures with the baby. Are you going to have you got the pumpkin where you cut out the holes for his or their legs

and take a picture. Yeah. Oh, that is really freaking cute. Like a hollowed out pumpkin. Yeah, hollowed out pumpkin legs. Yeah, he's walking around. He's walking around. We do have a pumpkin like a jack-o-lantern costume that he might wear. But we'll let him decide.

We put the costumes in front of him and then he'll decide his own destiny. And most of the time he'll just pick up my shoe. And I'm like, that's not an option, but- Did you see that viral kid costume where the kid wanted to be pants and his dad made him an incredible pants outfit, and it was so cute. No.

I'll have to show, we'll link it, but it's so cute. Dad, I wanna be pants. All right. Seriously? I had to make my costume this year and I was at the fabric store and this one lady was telling me a kid wanted to be a toothbrush. So, yeah, they just bought a whole bunch of bristles and felt and they're going to be a toothbrush. I love those kind of costumes. Yeah, let a kid be a kid. I hate when they do like family costumes because clearly like one parent wanted it. Like you're all supposed to be different weird things. It's not for Instagram aesthetic.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Oh, here we go. Let's see. This is the child who looks like pant. Oh, yeah. No, this is man. Yeah, God. Look, you know, I love that. I remember like I told my mom want to be a mad scientist and she was just like, here, put some hairspray in your hair and wear these old glasses frames. And I'm like, I need us. I need like the white lab coat. And begrudgingly, I got one. But that was like the furthest my mom ever wanted. I think because coming from Japan and being an immigrant, you're like, what the fuck do you want to buy a fuck? No, listen, like we don't, you don't need a costume to worship Satan. You can do that at home

Okay We got to spend all this money worshiping him. He's everywhere and nowhere Yeah, my mom coming from a Buddhist culture. She's like why these people so obsessed with this Satan shit, man I said don't man. Why don't you go to figure your fucking life out sort of blaming this devil person? Anyway, the worst was having to wear Like a coat over your costume because it was too cold. Yeah Yeah, don't know that problem, but yeah, I grew up in Utah so yeah if it snows on Halloween's like screw it Why do why why go out anyways? No one's gonna look like a flasher. You're like and here's my costume Thank you to prove you're not just a kid in a snowcoat. I think we mostly had to wear coats.

Otherwise we'd be really cold. Cause it was Utah at the end of October. And it wasn't as bad climate change wise. But we definitely tried to push it and tried not to wear it. And there were all those, you know, like the white kids who like wear shorts in December. There were a ton of those, but like my family was not gonna be that family.

No, no. We know about pneumonia and we want nothing to do with it. All right, and Zyke Yang, let me know, how do y'all in the cold weather places incorporate the snow outfits with the costume? Do you make that part of the costume or are you just doing door to door flashing

to prove that you were whatever it was? I'm assuming you- Trick or treat treat bitches. Assuming you're not doing it as adults. So let's just get past why not? I think we should. I want to go door to door and get candy. True. All right. Well, let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we are going to talk about the election a little bit right

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On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez.

Elian, Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.

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And we're back. Like I said, we are very, very close to election day. And, you know, as the race gets closer, there's been a lot of early scapegoating, draped in polling, you know, how will Arab voters vote? How will the Muslim communities of Michigan vote? Will they let Trump win? There's like that kind of like rhetoric, will they let Trump win? Why are black men abandoning Kamala? Was her plan not good enough with the crypto and the other

things? To that I say please direct your critiques at the significant voting block that is white America and ask why they aren't bothered. I think that's maybe a little bit of an easier question to ask those those numbers tend to be bigger than the marginal sort of groups that you're using to sort of create this like, I don't know, pre explanation in the event that Harris does not win. But as Jack has mentioned the business plot many times, but the more you look at how billionaires are using their influence to affect

the race, or just kind of get in the way of like, the normal discourse, it's pretty clear that these people have no issue with the Trump presidency either. So I feel like is another worthy question and something that is worthy of some journalistic analysis. First is the LA Times, the main newspaper. The Latimes. Yes, the Latimes. They are owned by billionaire South African and Musk friend Dr. Patrick Soon shung and he vetoed earlier this week, the editorial boards plan to endorse Harris, which resulted in the resignation of the editorials editor, Marielle Garza. Dr. Soon shong tried to explain this away as him.

Like, he's like, well, what I did was I proposed sort of like a, like, let's take all the issues and analyze how they will affect Americans and give people sort of a nonpartisan analysis to help voters decide how they would like to vote. But it was quickly dismissed as bullshit as Mario Garza herself said, no, we were planning to endorse. He said no to that shit. And that's why I think that's why I'm walking from this because these people are fucking meddling. And just

something that's very been very normal practice for the LA Times since about 2008. And I think this also goes along with like the trend we have seen of like the wealthy buying newspapers and gutting them and attempt to kill local journalism, which is doesn't base on like, the Washington Post or something like what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he does. He does too. He does too. And we've seen them also have some interesting like a lot of the headlines have become like oh

It's like pretty normal to pee in a Gatorade bottle and you're like what? I know they're on tick-tock. I like their tick-tock crew right the WAPO tick-tock. Yeah Oh, yeah, but again, everything's a grain of salt because Bezos. Right, yeah. It's just a very, like again, we see that, whether you own a newspaper or sit in the C-suite of a conglomeration of a company that owns different TV news networks,

there are ways to be like, nah, let's do this. Maybe let's not talk about this as we've seen this, as we've seen clearly for this last year, especially as it relates to what's happened in Gaza and the ongoing genocide there. But then- All right, you've convinced me, I'm going to start a paper.

I'm going to put out some paper. For the regular people. Come door to door to get my holiday paper. Yeah. Aside from that, and I think a lot of people, there are a lot of celebrities like, well, I never I'm going to cancel my subscription to the LA Times. I mean, there's a way to get through that with ad blockers and stuff. But I'm not here to advocate for that. I mean,

that's just that's what Reddit's for. We would never copy and paste it into a Google Doc. We would never, never, never look for a cached version of the websites that or use private browsing to try and get in the other way. But then we have the fine folks at MSNBC. You know, they fucking love the horse race and being like, I don't know, Trump. I mean, it's kind of kooky. But let's, you know, maybe he could maybe not. We just don't know. They've been finding very interesting people to platform,

like a recent recent segment from Alex Wagner to platform people like these black people in Pennsylvania that will be voting for Trump. Now, anyone who has heard Trump speak may have recognized that a lot of these, quote unquote, normal voters, people had very similar talking points like that. They were also repeating, which I get to the repetition of it kind of like American people just like, yeah, she's not qualified or educated enough. You're like, are you really doing really? Really?

There's a lot to say about, uh, Harris as a candidate, but they're sort of using like the very Trumpy version. This dumb slut bitch. Ma'am, excuse me. How are you saying, and I'm no feminist. There was a woman who said that, she's like, and I'm no feminist. Oh my god. And that's fine, and I get that, that was very clear. But here's the thing, I'm not saying that, you know, like, there's no way that there are black people that support Donald Trump, but this is just sort of how, I don't know if this is bad journalism or propaganda.

When you looked at one of the people that was speaking, like to this, like this quote unquote panel of like normal voters in Pennsylvania, one of the women speaking is literally a Republican candidate for office that is running this cycle. And they do- Are you saying she's not a black woman? Is that what you're saying, Miles?

No, I'm saying she's not a black woman? Is that what you're saying? Miles? Is in political are you saying she turned black after being a Republican? Is that what you're saying? My not at all. I'm saying this is some opportunistic shit. We've seen places like CNN do that when they have their quote unquote undecided voters and there are people who are like, very much just Trump voters, but they're being like, I don't know, maybe maybe we'll see it's just sort of like this lack they're undecided and whether they're racist or sexist which one they want to

openly admit to being on national television and I get that is a hard decision to make I totally get that they're also on Twitter some people have alleged that another woman in the video was part of a local moms for Liberty group. So hardly just like normal people. Like the insurance? Liberty? That regressive homophobic group that's like, we don't want kids knowing about anything that will get them to have we don't we're anti empathy.

Don't look at it. Don't look down when you're in the shower. Maintain eye contact with the shower head. It'll fall off. Let it dribble out. Don't let the shower pressure be too high. Turn down the water pressure. So again, I'm not sure if this is just bad journalism or just straight up propaganda. But the segment was quite pointless. Like when you look at these sort of like the underlying details. I have a question. Yes.

Miles, as a black man, how do you represent your demographic? What do you mean? What's in what? Like, what are you guys going to do? What are black men? Oh, well, obviously right now, Indian people, we're going to sell ourselves out. OK. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Yes. Black people. And look, I do have the opportunity to speak for Japanese Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Yes, black people. And look, I do have the opportunity to speak for Japanese people too,

because we are a monolith. Yes. We're. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're. Known black and Japanese people always vote together. Yeah. I mean, you know, Rui Hachimura, Naomi Osaka, you know, we're out here.

We're trying to make a difference. Although I don't think Rui can vote because he's not a citizen, but as I have this Jersey hanging behind me, but you know, we're going to make a difference, although I don't think Roy can vote because he's not a citizen, but As I have his jersey hanging behind me, but you know, we're gonna do the right thing What we like to do is just continue to I think the Kinte cloth thing in the capital Rotunda was big was really big It was huge. It was huge. It showed me that Nancy Pelosi's knees were like she's spry. She was able to take a knee Unassisted and and I was impressed with that. She was able to take a knee unassisted and I was impressed with that. I was impressed with that physical ability. That's incredible.

We were went over by when Trump spoke Hindi really poorly in that weird ad from years ago. Wait, what? There was an ad where Trump spoke Hindi and it was like the worst pronunciation. Are you for real? I'm British, yeah. Oh my God, now I'm like- He was pandering or whatever. Are you for real? I'm British. Yeah. Oh my God.

Now I'm like pandering or whatever. I think he just said like a few words, but it was really bad. For Nevada in 2016, like in Reno, he's like, everyone says it's Nevada, but I know we all know it's Nevada and Nevadans get so pissed off. Yeah. Don't say Nevada. Come on now. I know better than that.

Someone who has had to campaign for another person many years ago. Oh wait, here's the ad. Abhikibar Trump Sarkar. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Abhikibar Trump Sarkar.

Wait, if you guys are watching like the way his mouth is moving, it's like Hindi was never meant to be spoken out of those lips. He's like, Sarkar. Yeah, I've never seen somebody, I don't see, I've never seen anyone speak any language with their mouth that wide open unless you're looking at the words like a video game puzzle. It's like Abhik, Abh I'll be up keep our jump. Wow. It looks like he's prepping for a blowjob to give a yeah. Wow. I did not. Wow. Okay. It was really the volley or something. I don't know. But it was and that won our vote and that's probably why OSHA married Vance. I don't know. Maybe.

Yeah. Yeah. He's right. That's like, No, I really appreciate the effort he put in. Holy shit. And then so on Fox, there was like, there's just another moment we shouldn't be surprised they have like Trump visited that barbershop in the Bronx, they edited the fuck out of that entire interaction to make it seem like he even knew how to listen to and answer questions. The unedited video is just another example of just how fucking out of it Trump is, but that's nothing new to most people who are observing this election. But yeah, I just think so much is also being ignored about how in terms of like the mainstream media,

and they wouldn't deign to criticize Harris in this moment, but like the moves that the Harris campaign themselves are making quite possibly will be their own undoing, like pivoting to the right on huge issues that matter to their supporters, like law enforcement reforms, if any, immigration, just being like, yeah, we're basically can go as hard on immigration as Trump, Gaza. I also like beyond strategy. I know we're like all caught up in like strategy and it's politics and it's capitalism and it's evil, but it also just sucks that they don't care. They don't have any morals and they don't care about any. I know we know this and we've been knowing those and that's what this country was founded on, but in the spirit of mood, Ang's innocence, I

just want to take a moment. That people like don't do things for the sheer reason that it's good to bite your teeth, you know what I mean? It's just sad. Yeah, no, totally. And I think it's clear that they're like, well, we're not going to do any of that stuff that would be actually beneficial to people, but detrimental to our police industrial and military industrial states.

That they will also like, they're like, so let's just pick off some exhausted white Republican voters and see if like that can be it. Cause we're not gonna do this other stuff. That is just way too much. That's no, no, no, no. And I, and again, like I said this before, if they think like doing the off-brand version

of the GOP is going to be effective, you got me, might have another thing coming here because if these people want to see more suffering at the border, and for like people of color, they have the candidate for that and they will go all in on that they are telling you that as much why settle for this watered down version. If that's like that important of an issue to someone as a voter. So the logic is baffling, but go ahead. Yeah, Kamaga.

Kamaga Harris. Oh my God. But yeah, like again, go ahead, pin this on progressives and people of color rather than the democratic party's insistence on maintaining this cruel and awful version of American democracy, please. Also, slight point, people keep like conflating

all these different demographics. Like Arabs aren't all Muslim, most of them are Christian. And like, they're like conflating all these different demographics. Like Arabs aren't all Muslim. Most of them are Christian. And they're like, it doesn't I don't know. It feels like really stupid. The boxes they're putting people into it. I'm in this weird way. Yeah.

Anyways, well, that would mean people opening their worldview. We can't do that. Everyone has to be in their own little box. Oh my God. You look at those those those images of what's happening around the world. Oh, my God. How do you do it? Anyway, I'm a congressperson and you're like, you're not. Fuck.

Oh, you're a congressperson. You've never heard of moodang. OK, sorry. Oh, fucking dear. You know what's going on in Thailand right now? Fucking eyes. My God. Look at this greasy little blush on at the blush on her cheeks. She's beautiful. Mudang 2028.

Yeah, fuck it, 2028, hey, write it in, fuck it. She would be a better alternative. 2028, not this year, not this year. If you want, hey, look, if you're Mudang 24, go ahead, do your thing. All right. They're gonna be like birther people, like, was she born?

I have it on good authority that this hippo is from Thailand. Um, they're going to be like birther people, like, was she bored? I have it on good authority that this hippo is from Thailand. And you're like, you have it on good authority. Wow. That's racist. Oh, so all hippos are from Thailand. Pesto has to be her running mate. Yeah, right. Pesto.

Oh my God. Wait, who's Pesto? The giant penguin. Oh my God, Miles, there's a low information voter. I'm sorry. Did you already know without knowing about pesto? Yo, oh, oh, but wait, but I'm based off this code. Isn't that like a young penguin?

That's a baby penguin, Miles. He is a baby and he's standing next to his parents and he's a million times bigger than them and he's just a little baby. Oh, this is the LeBron James of penguins. Wow. That's what we're saying. That's baby pesto. Oh, I love baby pesto. He brings the muscle to Mudeng's cuteness.

She gets in there. Mudeng pesto 24. Oh, is he old enough to run for VP? Yes. Does he lack the experience? He hasn't even lost his baby down coat yet or whatever that phase of molding is. He's our new, like progressive, actually progressive John Fetterman.

Okay, he's gonna work a bunch of like. I've never seen him assault a couch. So, you know. He's got my vote. He's got my vote. And yeah, he hasn't been compromised by different interest groups. I love that.

I love that. Okay, so let's move on to this Netflix movie about the hottest fucking snowman you've ever laid your mortal eyes on. Speak for yourself. You've seen hotter, I've seen hotter snowman. I've made hotter snowman. Okay.

I like dad bod snowmans, thank you. Yeah, yeah, there you go. I've made Hotter Snowman. Okay. I like Dad Bod Snowman's, thank you. Yeah, yeah, there you go. There you go. Yeah, exactly. What is this traditional version of hot work being sold? But so we all watched the trailer for this new Netflix movie. I've already forgot the name of it. Hot Frosty.

Which is very odd. So Netflix is they're really- Brought to you by Arby's Frosty but it's melted in meats. Yeah, I mean Wendy's you're missing out I mean y'all y'all own that frosty shit, but I think again we've seen the obviously holiday movies are very popular I'm a very I'm very much into holiday movies myself. I love it. It's trash. It's like wallpaper being not white and never having Christmas like white people do. I like to live in their fantasy worlds in the form of these like terrible saccharine holiday films. So this movie, which

we all subjected ourselves to watching the trailer too, so we could speak accurately on what this thing is offering us. We're journalists here, okay? Thank you. Mm-hmm. We're fictional. This is a movie where Lacey Shea-Bear, who you might know from a lot of holiday channel

or Hallmark channel, rom-com, she was in Party of Five, Mean Girls, et cetera, she's playing a widower who brings a nude, ripped snowman to life with a magical scarf. Also, this snowman is in like the town square being like naked and like with abs. Right. Kids going to like stores in school and just like, there he is. See, this is why Moms for Liberty is right. What if it was their version of Jesus?

That would have been so much funnier. And it's like, I am Jesus. Like, oh, damn, I'm just trying to fuck homie. My bad. Can I get my scarf back so you can melt away? So apparently, this guy's only had like a few days, like, he's only like, he was literally born yesterday as he was brought to life by this magical scarf. He has a very limited time on Earthquake. Before he starts to melt, they naturally obviously start dating. And it features comedic actors like Craig

Robinson and like Joe LaTrougale, Joe LaTrougale. So it's clear like there is a level of self awareness to this comedy that is like absurd. But also, they also want to get the traditional holiday people up in. I don't think this is actually a Christmas movie. This is a movie about how hard it is to date in LA, okay? I will take a man that melts in three days over some of my psychos out here. I will literally fuck a snowman. I can't find anyone else here. I don't care if my pussy freezes and falls off, okay?

I got this carrot at- Better than some- I got this carrot? I got this carrot from Sprouts and tell me it cannot be used. Oh my god. Also, Krishelle Stoss from Selling Sunset. Oh yeah, that was Krishelle. Good on you, Krishelle. Wasn't she with the dude from This Is Us. Yeah. And then he dumped her or dumped her.

And then now she's dating G and they're like a really popular Australian or married to G and they're a really popular Australian. But she also dated her selling sunset boss and she still works with one of the twins. Very strange. Yeah. I remember watching that when G was introduced and one of the twins was just sort of like, Oh, I'm sure with this. And you're fine. I don't cry.

I'm so broken as a person. Every day. Yeah. I love watching that show because despite all the money those two have, they are fucking broken people. They're sad. Yeah. So we watched the trailer.

I'm just, what are your thoughts on this? Because, Oh, before I want want to I just do want to Preface this is part of Netflix's like holiday Stravaganza where they're going to be releasing a new Christmas movie every Wednesday throughout the month of November I'm gonna fucking cry. You're releasing all those movies. You couldn't even get me a single line in any of them I want to know bad movie so bad Netflix. the I want to get a bad movie so bad Netflix I will not call it a bad movie if you put me in it I will be I don't care I'll be any I'll be the stereotype of an Indian person I don't care. I was gonna say would you be in one

that was like a totally fucked up take of like Indian Christmas? I had to do that for my sixth grade choir you think I wouldn't do that for Netflix? They never let me sing in anything. And then they did a fucking Christmas around the world. And I had to be one of the stars because they didn't have enough brown people in my fucking Utah elementary school. So I had to teach them about Diwali and they never let me sing again.

Because I was so bad. I was like, yeah, I'll wear a sari. I don't care. Get me on screen, okay, Netflix? I'm so sorry. I will dress as snowman up in a sari, okay? Holy shit. We will bring an auntie to life for three days.

Would you be in a holiday romcom about a single Indian woman trying to find love during the holidays called a sari, not sorry? I will write it. I don Not Sorry. I will write it. I don't care. I will watch it. Okay. And then I know what's gonna happen is

I will be cast as the friend. I don't care. I'll do that. Somehow I'm the friend. It's about a white woman. Somehow I wrote it, I'm directing it, and they made me the friend. Or I'm like the 7-Eleven worker.

We have Blake, we have Blake Light. I don't give a shit. I'm the 7-Eleven worker. No! Put me in it. I told you earlier in in this episode I sell my people out, okay There is a price Right exactly throwback to by Hank Azaria.

Oh, full on brownface. You know it. Oh my God. Oh my God. What if what if we say this? And that's one of the movies they release. Yeah, Netflix right now. Oh, they're like some other honor. Indian person gets to be the best friend. I'm like, what the fuck? They're like, did you write that down?

Did you leak the sorry, not sorry concept? Someone just quote these three people just said the entire film right now with the title with the plot and the cast. We're fucking up. I don't know. I love holiday films. I don't know about y'all. But Kim, I will ask you as someone who as a cartoonist illustrator, you have an imagination of things that are not typically coming to life coming to life having personalities to life, having personalities. What's your critique on seeing the huge nipple ripped snowman guy and his life and him coming to consciousness?

Well, two thoughts. One is I did notice the lack of sentient bug, butt plug representation. I felt that was needed, But I would totally watch this unironically if this was done in old school claymation style. That would be the best. I miss that. Holy shit.

It would be so perfect to have a hot. I missed a hot frosty. I'm 105. Wouldn't it be so funny, he's like, I'm melting kids, and as that happens, just a butt plug drops. Like. Oh shit.

Oh shit, I had that in the whole time, kids. And the winner picks it up, a single tear rolls down her eye. It was about what's inside you all along, children. It's medically viable polyurethane. Yeah, I was like, it was, I look, I'll watch any holiday films. I'll probably watch this. Obviously, there is like a thing where I'm kind of like the hot frosty watch party. I think we should.

I think we should. Depending on how I mean, by the time it comes out, I have a feeling we'll still be in the throes of debating the election and whether or not it's certifiable. So in that liminal space where we're on the edge of total collapse, this may be the one thing that soothes our nerves. In which case, yeah, maybe we should do that. Just to get together. True escapism.

Yeah, yeah, truly. Oh, wow. Just to get together. True escapism. Yeah, yeah, truly. Oh wow, what's happening? I don't know, this fucking snowman is hot though. So fucking hot. The other thing that is interesting too, is that Lacey Shebert was named in an age discrimination lawsuit against Hallmark, which could explain the switch to Netflix.

Because if, and look, I'm all about the like many days of Christmas shit They do on Hallmark, but there's a good damn near every day. There's a new holiday movie She her shit is all over like her face is in she stars in this shit So I wonder if they did the thing where they're like, alright, she aged out. We're done with her looks so young She doesn't look anything different than Mean Girls Yeah, honestly, it said Hallmark did not want to cast old people like Holly Robinson Peete and Lacey Shebert.

Wait, from the article in Variety, it says Lacey's getting older and we have to find someone like her to replace her as she gets older. Hamilton Daly allegedly said, damn. Okay, I like how women are always told, oh my God, don't be so competitive with younger women because you're always acting like they're trying to replace you.

Meanwhile, like men are like, yeah, we're replacing you. We're going to write an article that you're afraid of. Yeah. Holy. Then he told apparently the same guy told the, this casting director, Penny Perry, who's 79 years old, that constantly she was quote, too long in the tooth. I'm sorry.

That quote is too long in the tooth. I'm sorry, that quote is too- What the fuck does that mean? That quote is too long in the tooth for you to be casting aspersions on people. Also, if you use the phrase too long in the tooth, you're fucking too long in the tooth. Exactly, that's disqualified. Exactly, who uses that? Say her aura was off, Jesus.

She doesn't fit the vibe. Yeah, what is the etymology? Like you're like a too much? Like you got gum recession? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

We can't have her because of her ginger-vitis, guys. Like it's noticeable. Oh my God, you know how, oh, I guess it is, it alludes to a horse's gums receding with age. We're talking about, we're talking about livestock. Old horse mouth over here.

Yeah, old horse mouth. Look at that. We can't cast it. No one wants to fuck this old horse mouth. All right, let's move on. Let's find something different. Anyway, so this is all part of a very new exciting time here. We will see where this goes. I'm glad they're finally snow men to fuck, I guess.

We're going to go outside. We we're gonna see a bunch of snowmen and a bunch of holes in them, and we're gonna be like, how did the men get a hole in there? I know, they're like, you need to worry about the men. I guarantee there will be at least one carrot pun in that movie. Oh yeah. It was built around that one. Let's take some odds, okay, there will be a carrot pun,

there will have to be some kind of like, clearly this guy's like kind of like, like, clearly, this guy's like, kind of an alien, because he's just become human. And like, where he doesn't realize, like, he can't get naked all the time, probably kind of thing. That seemed like that was sort of the case in the trailer, where he's like, so hot. Feels like there is like this theme of like, women falling in

love with dudes who just appear like, in it, what was it enchanted or like I guess I was the reversal of it, but it's I don't know. I feel like it is like our version of like when men go for like 19 year olds. We're like, no, no, we still want them to be an adult, but not ruined by the world. We want them to not have met other men before they met us. Right. We want the patriarchy to not have insidiously ruined their personality. I mean, I think the one knock that goes against it, it looks like his two only friends are cops. So we'll see how that works out.

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And we're back. So Halloween, mere days away at this point. I still don't know what I'm going to be for Halloween. I think I'm going to be Mookie Betts because we have the same male pattern baldness and face. And athletic ability. Yeah. I cannot swing the bats like Mookie Betts or maybe Dave Roberts, who is a black and Asian or Japanese manager of the Dodgers. I don't know. Do y'all have costumes yet?

Oh yeah. You do? Okay. I've had an idea for a costume, but I'm like trying to get I'm all up in these couples costumes. Yeah, because I'm like, well, I have Jackie, I need to I never got to do that before. So I have an idea, but we're gonna we're gonna I don't want to say what it is. Yeah, yeah, not in the costumes. costumes. Kim, are you able to disclose what you may or may not be? Yeah, no one I know listens. I have friends that listen, but I don't care if they know. I am doing a couple's costume, and I'm going to be Princess Ariel in her pink dress.

And my husband is going to be a dingle hopper. He's going to be a fucking fork. I knew it wasn't going to be Eric. I knew it. I love that. Cause he's a tool for you to eat. For me to eat. My sisters are going to be other Disney princesses and their husbands are also

going to be like obscure props from the movie. Oh, I love that. I love that. You got thing about Bob's got plenty are 20. How many thing about Bob's did you have 20 or plenty? Twenty. Okay, good. Twenty. Yeah. Thank you. I just want I want to be accurate when I evoke a little mermaid lore. So we're all excited.

We have costumes that are informed by our love of culture and whatever's out there. But according to a recent Atlantic article, they are arguing that quote, chronic, the chronically online have stolen Halloween. Wow. Why? Because while I guess the most popular Halloween costumes this year are like people like Beetlejuice or Inside Out. The second most popular costume of all is Raga, the wonderful whimsical Australian bee girl that took our hearts during the Olympics. And while she obviously appeared in the Olympics, like via, you know,

traditional Olympic coverage, she became just huge because of the fucking memes. And the other viral outfit, which I know my esteemed guest co host is going to love to hear is the hippo mood. That seems to be very popular, whether that's just people getting like normal looking hippo costumes. Or as I posted in here in the doc, one of the most horrifying masks I've ever seen that looks like some shit out of the island of Dr. Moreau, like humanoid hippo person.

These aren't necessarily like masks. Like some of them are like makeup artists like creating like a moodang look. Yeah, I can't. That one is terrifying. That's terrifying. That one is scary. I saw one that was like really cute. Yeah, see, I'm all I'm all about the cute shit. The I'm trying to be like, sort of biologically, the anatomically accurate to how

I hit both space would look on my human face. Not so much. But the article, it goes on to like, complain about like meme culture on Halloween costumes. Like in 2016. Remember Ken Bone, that guy who asked like during like a Forget yeah, Jamie Loftus just had him on her podcast. Yeah. Yeah Oh the 16th minute. Yeah, he wore that like red sweater and it was like dude in his name's Ken bone This shit is fucking dope. He's undecided Anyway, it goes on to say quote meme costumes Meme costumes not only persist, they have become even more

online. Today, participating in Halloween can feel like being in a competition you did not enter, one that prioritizes social media attention over genuine person-to-person interactions. What? Yeah, this person was a huge fan of sexy nurses as person-to-person interactions. They were like, can we go back to the old days where women looked like they were about to fuck you at a party? Every profession is sex.

Hey, can you take my temperature rectally, nurse? You're like, what the fuck? This is what I miss from the person that we could casually sexually harass someone based on their fucking costume. How am I supposed to harass a moodang? How is that supposed to happen? What do I look like hitting on a pygmy hippo? I try to slap her cheeks.

It's got stuffing in there, you know? But this is where Hot Frosty comes in and is progressive because now we're objectifying a man. Right. A snowman. Ah. Yeah, snowman. Thank you, the scales have been balanced. But the article goes on to note, it's stuff like the meme invasion threatens the spirit of Halloween. Let me just read this whole quote because

it is this person again, speaking of broken people, quote, in my experience, in interaction with these meme hipsters, a moment that should be one of immediate recognition and joy becomes a lengthy borderline inscrutable conversation I had no idea I would be saddled with when I tried to make small talk. Instead of connecting, I feel alienated. And not just because I don't understand, within seconds of embarking on these conversations, it becomes clear the costumes aren't intended for my or any other partygoer's consumption.

What? What? What? I'm sick of carrying other people's trauma from not recognizing their Halloween costumes. I'm sick of doing this emotional labor. I'm having to understand. He's just throwing a hissy fit because no one sends him any memes. This man is lonely and crying out for help.

Yeah, truly. It does feel very much like like I don't have friends. Oh, you know what, sorry. And I know this feels, I should have, we should have known this is actually from Kate Lindsay is the person who wrote this at the Atlantic. So she doesn't have friends. What are you saying?

Just want to be accurate. Also it's the year of our Lord and savior moodings 2024. Like why would you be worried about memes now? Yeah, right around for fucking ever. And based on like, I'm just going to show you this doesn't look like an elderly person. This just looks like again, I think more to your point. I think Kim, were you saying that this just sounds like someone who's like, why don't you guys send me any memes?

Yeah, that's never heard of an inside joke. Yeah. They're like, all jokes need to be outside. Yeah. They all need to be at least based on something that happened in a friends episode, because I know that stuff. Okay.

I can relate. Someone sent her one big Chungus meme, and she just lost it. Yeah, she's like, isn't that Bugs Bunny? It's big Chungus. So again, she feels alienated and we should do everything we can to accommodate this woman. She said, if our costumes aren't for the people, for the other people in this room, then what are we all doing here?

And yet I in my pumpkin costume or celebrity getup and made out to be the problem If you're like, okay, just please shut up the LA Times who you know, the owner did a terrible job talking You know just running the paper I will point out that you have an article that added some like context to this whole idea of dressing up for Halloween They did say they did talk about how this is now a digital first holiday and it's meme inspired But they add some context. Okay, so for one, even like the generic pop culture costumes that you know, arguably have seated like some of their cultural space to memes

were once new and different. You know, there was like marking a shift from the traditional spooky costumes. They only became widely popular in the 50s. So quote, this is from the LA Times article. It was during the 1950s, that costuming became a major retail business in the US for instance, as costume companies like collegeville and Ben Cooper bought the licensing rights to film and television characters from Superman to Donald Duck. They said this is

all kind of changed why and how people dress like more for the times. And nothing bad ever happened in the 50s. So they were right. They used these hats. Flawless era, absolutely flawless era. My consciousness really doesn't begin till about 2002 for whatever reason.

I don't know why. This is how things were. But then there's another interesting part that this shift like to sort of make Halloween like a thing that focused on kids was to basically Respond to the waves of youth vandalism that started during the Great Depression So in the Halloween of 1933 hundreds of teenage boys flipped over cars Sought off telephone poles and engaged in other acts of vandalism across the country. Okay, so Halloween was the purge

Let's sugar up these teenage boys. I'm also like, whose cars are they flipping over? Because if they were flipping over the cars of the wealthy during the Great Depression, I'm like, this side. It's like an upside down horse. Yeah. My penny farthing has been flipped, I say. So apparently, quote, concerned adults started organizing neighborhood activities like trick or treating haunted houses and

costume parties to keep young people from making trouble or starting a proletarian revolution. This new focus also led to new types, new types of costumes for kids naturally. But then, again, this article is just pointing out the sort of evolution of our use of costumes. In the 70s. A big part of things changed because of the LGBTQ community. This is an article gaze. Look what they did. Look what the gays Halloween. A devout Christian I love Halloween and I don't want it

to be touched by these queers. So it said then, this is again from the same LA Times article, quote, then in the 1970s, according to Morton, the queer community played a significant role in making Halloween a celebration for adults too. Quote, before that, Halloween was almost exclusively for kids. Then counterculture groups such as the LGBTQ plus community came along and said, no, this can be an adult holiday and we're claiming it. And thank God for that or else we would not have these parties where we can embarrass

ourselves with our maybe overly obscure costumes or super me me costumes. And I'm not mispronouncing meme. I'm saying meme E like an adjective. Just want to put that on there. You sound like an idiot, Miles, move on. I sound like I'm long in the tooth. You sound so long in the fucking tooth right now. Your teeth are so fucking long right now, my guy. I can hear your long ass teeth when you say that. You're about to fucking kill the dentist, my guy. So again, I mean, like, yeah, now that like media is just the way we ingest media has

changed, it just means that people and like, it's not just like the costume companies don't dictate what the popular characters are like it's been Democratized in a way where it's like oh, yeah We've all embraced wearing costumes and now just do shit that we fucking like what is the fucking problem with that? Well, this should be like celebrated because this is what Pete capitalism, right? You're gonna sell what's gonna sell. So why are we bitching about it? Plus the internet anyways is already being incorporated into the mainstream like hot ones You got a list celebrities my movies on the fucking internet. Yeah

Like there is no old time new like this is all related It's just so odd and and obviously let it be the Atlantic that's like just digging their heels into like the ground. We cannot move from this place. Okay, God damn it. What did you say? I said, okay, Kodak. Because didn't they like lose like majorly in like or like no, was it Kodak Or there was like some camera company that refused to like go digital and then they just died. It was Kodak, right? Yeah, they just died out

because they couldn't keep up with the times. Yeah. Well, look at you now. Now you're an ironic thing we say, or that you know, Cardi B can kind of flip for one of her hit songs, Bodak Yellow. But yeah, this is just a I just think just such a weird, weird take to have when, like, yeah, I know so many adults are, like, people I know who are most into Halloween are the fucking adults.

It's also so fucking wholesome. Like, let people have fun. This is better than war. Seriously. Like, everything queer people do is so much, like, fun and so inclusive and involves costumes? My hot take has been Halloween is a more charitable and community-based event than Christmas. Because you're just giving out candy for free with nothing expected in return.

Where at Christmas, you gotta give. You have to. And you have to give back. Where Halloween is like, here you go. Neighbor kid, cute. Also, Pearson Candy. Who hosts parties. Like you have to and you have to give back where Halloween is like, here you go Cute also who hosts parties like it's a place for people to come together make eye contact ask Questions about other people's interests based on their costumes and actually learn something rather than feel alienated Yeah, it's again like to to your point, yeah, it really is more communal based because that

is the time you actually get out you talk to your neighbors, you interact with Christmas like I mean, unless you're unless you have a tight knit neighborhood, you're probably like, we're doing our fucking thing. Because I think like families and yeah, it stresses people the fuck out. But anyway, I think look, let's all embrace it in our own way. Don't just don't please don't do anything fucking racist. That's pretty much the rules. That's it.

Other than that, then fucking knock yourself out unless you just hang out. Only hippos are allowed to dress as moodang. Right. Thank you. And I'm so glad you say that that you you so you are welcome. So you are refusing to appropriate Pygmy Hippo culture? I can get that officially from you? I refuse. I refuse to appropriate and I apologize in the past for when I have appropriated Pygmy

Hippo or lion culture when I really wanted to be Simba. I'm so sorry. That was a different time. It was the 90s. Oh my God. All right. Well, look, Kim, Pallavi, thank you so much for joining me today on the Daily Zeitgeist. Kim, I first want to thank you and ask you where the people can

find you, follow you, support your Patreon, etc. And what is a work of social media or other media generally that you've been enjoying? Yeah, you can find me the The Double Underscore Red Dot on Instagram, Twitter, I'm on Reddit, my Patreon. If you like spicy adult-themed comics, I got you back. And one thing that I've been really enjoying is another web comic artist called The Other End, and he's on Instagram and Reddit.

And he has this awesome style that's like an homage to Sunday newspaper comics but in a modern feel and they're like semi long form and just so fucking off-the-wall funny like I look forward to his work every weekend because he posts on Saturdays. So definitely recommend that guy and then Kevin can go fuck himself. The AMC show. I just binged that and that was really, really cool. Oh really, okay. Yeah, the girl that was in Schitt's Creek. Oh yeah, yeah.

Oh, who played the sister? Yeah. Oh, dope. I feel bad for not having her name, but it's a twist on like doing a, like hard drama and a sitcom in a relationship. Really, really cool show. Short two seasons.

Okay, love that, love that. Polly, thank you so much for joining me. Hold on, I wanna go get my works of media that I'm looking at, one sec. Are they like physical books? Yes. Oh, okay. I looked at.

I look at books. They're not, it's just printouts of Netflix. This one, I like this one. You like Love is Blind? Hey, that is good. I love it too. No, I'm just saying like, why print it out? Don't go there.

Trust me, you think I'm watching holiday films and I don't love Love is Blind? Come on now. True, true. Okay, I am at Paula Viganallen, P-A-L-L-A-V-I-G-U-N-A-L-A-N everywhere. I run a show with my friends called Facial Recognition Comedy at the Comedy Store monthly. Our next one is, I believe, November 15th.

It's like the third Friday of every month. And I'm in my reading era, guys. I'm in my fucking reading era. I fucking love it. I have been reading Stephen King, but these are three books that I'm about my fucking reading era. I fucking love it. I have been reading Stephen King, but these are three books that I'm about to start reading. And I got them from the Ripped Bodice in Culver City. Oh yeah, Culver City. And I love that place.

I go there and do shows. They have shows on Thursdays. I don't know if it's every Thursday, but they do have shows on Thursdays. And every time I go, I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to spend all my money. And I do. Okay, I haven't read these yet,

but I love the idea of these authors. And I also know Alicia Rai, who was on a show that I was on called South Asian AF. And this one looks fucking hot and sexy. What's it called? I hate to want you. It's part of like the Forbidden Heart series, I think. This one is, I think, more a fantasy,

The Jasmine Throne by Tasha Suri, and I'm really excited to read this. And then this one is apparently really funny. It's by a Black female author named Kimberly Lemming, and she has a whole series, and this is the first one. It's called that, speaking of fucking hot frosty snowmen, that time I got drunk and saved a demon. series and this is the first one. It's called that, speaking of fucking hot, frosty snowmen, that time I got drunk and saved a demon. It's like her falling in love with a fucking demon.

I cannot wait to read this. I'm excited. And she's like, she's drinking out of like, one of those like- Like Renaissance thing. Yeah, barrel of beer type things. Yeah, it's fucking awesome. But I love that bookstore. So go support it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just support all independent booksellers, please, please. Oh, yeah. Please. A couple of things I like first to tweet from at its Porter tweeted, a lot of y'all

don't understand politics because your history teacher was the football coach. And yep, that that resonates. Was that a direct hit at Tim Walz? In a weird way, maybe. Then there was then another thing I'm like, speaking of, like romance, I have a friend, Rihanna, shout out Rihanna. She is into like, like really all kinds of smut, like romance stuff. But like, she's's like I don't say I don't say she's like I don't say no to anything like and recently I've I've she said she read like fucking 50 books over the last like two months

Like I love that and one she showed me was called hollow peen Okay, and it was about a woman who gets Involved is fucking a man entirely made of candy and I know what you're asking What is the penis made of? Rock candy, okay Then you ask what comes out of said rock candy when this person reaches climax Gummy bears and She's also interested in being.

Does she have a gummy bear, baby? Look, I'm just telling you, the excerpts that she read to me were sentences I had never heard before ever in the history of human language. Like, they are unbelievable. And I'm not saying you should check it out, but I'm just saying I heard about it

and I said, this shit is ridiculous. And apparently it's a very short read. So if that is up your that is a very short read. They were mini sized candies. Yeah exactly. Mini church. Fun size. Yeah fun size, fun size, fun size.

But I loved hearing about shit like that and please send your recommendations to us as well for that kind of thing. You can also find me at Miles and Gray on Twitter and Instagram. You can find Jack and I on the basketball podcast miles to check out mad boosties And I talked about 90 day fiance on for 20 day fiance as well You can find us at daily zeitgeist on Twitter at the the daily zeitgeist on Instagram got a Facebook fan page and a website daily It's like a zeitgeist calm where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes!

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track called Metamorphosis. They're sort of like a soft indie like band and they're like these four black siblings. The track is dope. Metamorphosis. Check it out. Anyway, Infinity Song with the track Metamorphosis. Um so, the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. So, for more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows for free. That's going to do it for us this week. We'll be back on Monday to tell you what's trending until then. En garde, en au revoir,

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