The Daily Zeitgeist - Furry Hackers To The Rescue! Yes, Ammo Vending Machines 07.12.24

Episode Date: July 12, 2024

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like you got your car i saw that so you oh i got it did you got the car you got it at the price you wanted yeah yeah even lower all right oh i gave the money back you motherfucker i was like i don't need what is that forester outback cross track cross track yeah sport what does that mean uh it just has a better engine in it like where oh instead of being like a turtle it's a normal car okay no super ruse are fine fine automobile fine it is fine it's safe it is where are you gonna go next where are you gonna take your npr tote bag to next yeah where are you going to take your fucking golden retriever on a hike. Your golden doodle in your Subaru. No, it's a mutt. I rescued it.

I would never get a purebred. You can't put purebred dogs in a... Or did he rescue you and you put that on the back of your Subaru? Yes, well that is our bumper sticker. One of the seven we have already put on there. Rescue Papa with the paw print sticker on it. I need to climb Mount washington so i can get that stupid bumper sticker on there wait is that a thing yeah it's like if you like there's

so many where it's like this car climbed mount washington oh my god yeah really yeah yeah it's where's mount washington uh i uh yeah i going to make some sort of stupid other country joke, but I believe it's in the state of Washington, right? Or no. A cursory Google search would render this answer New Hampshire. Huh. And he left. Fucking coward. No, no.

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only on apple podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 346 episode 5 of things and conversations a production of my heart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's friday july 12 2024 see miles this is not hard what you guys do it's very easy i don't understand is this all right anyway so my name is miles gray i'm thrilled to be joined by co-host blake wessler what am i not supposed to read? Okay, we'll keep that. But what is July 12th? National French Friday. Oh, I fuck with that.

Eat your Jell-O Day. Oh, I don't see that in here. Well, that's because some things I got to keep from you because you'll steal all my lines. Like when we did that community theater. Remember that bit from I Think You Should Leave? This is my fucking jabroni. He's taking my lines. Anyway, it's collector car appreciation day. Paperback day, jabroni he's taking my lines um anyway it's collector car appreciation day paperback day jabroni national pecan pie day jabroni and national different colored eyes

day jabroni uh it's july 12th like we said and i'm miles gray aka i'll keep forgetting jack's not here anymore i'll keep forgetting my boy might never be back again i keep forgetting when his vacation's so near i keep forgetting baby every time he's gone every time i see you leave i hear your goodbye all right anyway shout out to steaming chuck on the discord thank you for you did a whole i keep forgetting michael mcdonald michael mcdonald uh aka for me any i'm telling you i fuck so heavy with michael mcdonald someone give me a you you belong to me tell always a stranger that's all i want to sing all day a more influential irish artist than bono i would argue michael mcdonald yeah and i don't think it's close is he irish you think i don't

know is that a rule is that a hard and fast rule i don't know i don't know it has to be i don't know european name law irish or something couldn't you be scottish too you could i thought that was like a thing like they're like the scots are like we're mcmahon we're mcdonough we're mcdonald mcdowell and i'm the co-host blake wexler aka nobody wants to work anymore gen z just sits on their phones all day that is a belief that i hold that's not even an aka. Yes, it is. Okay, sorry. Also known as Gen Z. You know, like I said,

there was one, someone wrote a Christina Aguilera AKA for you that brought tears to my eyes. So I know when you're back, if you're back, depending on, we'll see how this tryout goes today.

Yeah. If this goes well, you'll be back and you'll do your Linda Perry written, beautiful, inspired AKA. inspired, a.k.a. Well, Blake. Yes. Enough of the professionalism and dry comedy.

Lack of fun on this show. Let's get fucking wacky for a second. Let's go nuts. We got to welcome our guest today. them our guests today. A very wonderful man who came onto this Zoom call with such pure energy that my blood pressure went down in a way that was almost dangerous. But it had a calming essence to it. Then we find out, dear friends of our favorites, Caitlin Durante and Jamie Loftus, also started off in the Boston area getting into comedy. This man is a comedian, a writer, a host. He has a new audio

book out now on Everant called Let's Hang Out. He's also the host of How to Be a Better Human, amongst many other things. But he said, I should prioritize the audio book, and I'm a good listener. So I did that. Please welcome to our guest seat, Mr. Chris Duffin! Thank you. Thank you. Wow. I got to say, if this is you with low blood pressure, I cannot believe you are able to survive with the high blood pressure you have normally. Look, you know, you're up, you're down. You're up, you're down is what I tell my doctor. This is you as relaxed as it gets.

I love it. I love to know this is you. I'm veering into sleep. Yeah. I'm an only child, you know. I need people to look my way or else I don't exist. So that's why I just naturally fell into podcasting. Oh, why do you think?

All of us do comedy for the same reason, 100%. Look at me! Yes. Hello! To cure our hypertension. Yeah, yeah. It was prescribed to me, actually. Yeah, I didn't want to do this.

Could you imagine? Yeah, that's a good opener at an open mic. Yeah, so I'm up here because my doctor prescribed stand-up for me. My cardiologist said it was this or yet another statin. And my body can't handle the statins anymore. You can't handle the statins. Chris, man, thank you so much for joining us. It's your first time being on the show.

Always like having new people. Stepping into the Zeitgeist neighborhood. I know you're in L.A. You started in Boston. Are you started in boston are you from boston where are you from no i'm from new york originally okay from new york heard of that but um yeah almost a spit take new york city new york city the big apple yeah damn and now i moved here to the large lemon here i am the large lemon they do call it that that's what they say that they told me you sound like you're from here when you call it that.

Hold on. Say that again, Pally. What? Large Lemon? This guy knows. Yeah. Why don't you have one of our famous tacos? That's how it works.

How long have you been in LA now? I've been here for a little bit more than five years. Oh, so just before the pandemic kicked off. Yeah, I had a good six more than five years. Yeah. Oh, so like just before the pandemic. Yeah, I had like a good six months of making friends. And then it was like, those are the only people you'll ever know for the rest of your life.

I hope you did well. Like some of them were kind of bad, but I got to go. Absolutely. L.A. wasn't a bad place to get locked down in, though, because you could still hike. You know, there was still

I can't imagine people who are locked down in your in your hometown of the city of new york the big apple where just living in those small rooms and in the winter too yeah yeah it was really i mean rodriguez was colder but yeah for sure yeah my parents live in like a time still live in the apartment i grew up in which is like a tiny apartment with a murphy. And it was like truly not where you wanted to spend 24 hours a day, 24 seven. That is not where you want it to be. You're like, let's look out the window. Oh, a brick wall.

Beautiful. Right. All right. Close that decorative curtain. Reminded why we don't open it. Yeah. Well, Chris Murphy bed, another great Irish artist. Go ahead.

Yes. Honestly. And he backs up Michael McDonald at many of his live shows. Wait, he does. He's a Murphy bed inventor. Now I got to look that up. It would be incredible if it was not someone named Murphy. That's what I'm dying for.

I'm dying for Joseph bed. Yeah. Fortunately, it's, it's a guy named, uh, William Lawrence Murphy, Bill Larry Murphy, uh, came up with it around 1900 in San Francisco. Okay. Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, this shit is everywhere. That is like one of the things where you feel like, man, who fucks with a Murphy bed?

But anytime you're in like a smaller space, like it's actually vital to be able to. You got to have one. Yeah. Yeah. I will say no one has ever said, wow, I got the best night's sleep of my life on this Murphy bed. Yeah. Is there, I mean. The thing that came out of the wall. Yeah. Oh, you mean the one we's sleep of my life on this Murphy bed. Yeah. Is there anything that came out of the wall? Yeah.

When we fold it down like an ironing board. Yeah. That's really comfortable. Just the sound of it is so welcoming. You're like, oh yeah. Are the springs breaking as you pull it down? Yeah. The more common feeling when you,

when you wake up in a Murphy bed is I'm really relieved that thing didn't spring into the wall again and kill me in the night. Is that possible or is that just in cartoons? I think it's just in cartoons. Based on the experience at my parents' house, it's in cartoons. For the record, you were not smashed to bits. You can't see this if you're listening, but I am extremely

flat. I am flat as a pancake. Here, do the thing where you put your thumb in your mouth and go... There's that 3d those are nice thank you so much um well chris we're gonna get to know you a little bit better but first uh we're gonna let people know what we are going to be talking about news wise because there's a lot happening a gay furry hacker collective absolutely pwned the heritage foundation the right-wing think tank behind Project 2025.

So we'll get into that story and the very interesting response from the Heritage Foundation. Unfortunately, there's more drama on the Democratic Party. It turns out now the Biden camp suspects that Barack Obama is the real hater in chief and is the one trying to push Joe Biden out. Oh, my God. Can we just get a fucking break for one second? No. And then a story that's just straight out absurd and bad. The ammo vending machines are here for us to use for people who have firearms that want to buy loose bullets while you buy a Gatorade.

So we'll get into that development. The technology that's absolutely probably going to keep us all safe. And we'll talk about so much more. But first, Christopher. Can I call you Christopher? Absolutely. That's the full name. Can I call you Chris? Yes. I go by Chris. May I call you Peter?

You can call me whatever you want. What's your middle name? Do you mind revealing that? Ian. Edit that out. Ian, edit that out because I'm also about to say my social security number and my mother's maiden name and password. And we're back. Thanks so much. Ignore

your emails. It's a heck of a set of numbers. It's a beautiful set. I just got to say, I think 314-68-2279 is a great social security number for you. I am also impressed that right off the top of the dome, you could remember how many numbers were in a social security number. Well, I just sent back your actual social security number.

That's true. I was trying to make it seem like it wasn't real. Well, I think, don't you have, I mean, for anybody who's like clocked in at a job where your social security was your login, like, did anyone, does anyone have this experience? Yeah. Yeah, of course. Not in your last four letters. Like when you clocked in. Oh, did anyone, does anyone have this experience? Yeah. What's your login? Not in your last four letters.

Like when you clocked in. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. When you clocking in to like the work computer where you put, like, well, no one's working anymore now,

but when people used to work, when people used to work and weren't on their phones, yeah. Screaming it, you're scanning a QR code. I just remember just the rhythm of it has always put the social security rhythm in my mind. Like,

yeah, honestly, it's pretty good. Like, ba-da-da, da-da, da-da-da-da. Yeah. Honestly, it's pretty good. That's a pretty good beat. I'm teaching con man improv classes for anyone who's interested over at IO Olympic. They're so expensive. Yeah, they are. They cost so much money.

Well, it's more people come to the door, I go, how much you got? And I do the call, oh, there's some arrested development thing. I go, well, that's exactly how much these classes cost. That's fascinating. It's incredible how that is so close to how actual improv classes just work normally. Yeah, right? Yeah. They find the absolute amount that's like, well, they're going to be eating Taco Bell sauce packets for meals.

But the promise of maybe having a bit part on parks and rec will get their asses through the door. Have you ever heard of broad city? They met here, here, here. Do you know that guy? Do you know a human giant?

Uh, yeah. Also here. Look at the wall folks. You could be any one of these people. You probably won't, but that's the fish we're going to, that's the thing.

That's the carrot. Is that Tony the tiger on the wall? Yes, it is. Wait, hold on. That's FDR. What do to... That's the thing. That's the carrot we'll dangle. Is that Tony the Tiger on the wall? Yes, it is. I'm talking all people. Wait, hold on to that. That's FDR. What do you mean? Yeah.

Yeah. He was winging it, dude. The new deal? The object work was incredible. The dude, he didn't even need the wheelchair. The new deal was actually a herald. What's the deal? What's the deal?

What's the new deal? We've somehow taken the show to new depths. Chris Duffy, I appreciate what you have done energetically because Blake and I, it's already chaotic enough. But to have a consummate guessander, oh my goodness. Well, first, we've got to ask you, Chris Duffy, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, you know, I'll tell you that the most recent thing in my Google search history is how to see Google search history. Because I knew I was preparing for this show. Oh, I like a prepared guest.

Okay. But then, you know, I found a lot of stuff that I had forgotten in my Google search history that I had forgotten why. And I think it says a lot, even to me, about who I am. Like, one of the things I found was hot dog buns controversy. Because I was going to a cookout and I remembered that some hot dog bun I could bring would indicate that I supported the far right, but I couldn't remember how or why. Wait, there's a far right hot, which hot dog bun is the far right? You know, it turns out that Martin's potato rolls, they're donating heavily to far right

causes. So those things are way too fucking thick. They're too sweet. Aren't they? They're basically like French rolls for me this is how i live in 2024 america is i i whenever i do anything i first have to google is this bad and evil accidentally funding fast here's some yeah you do and look you've done your due diligence oh but then i also was googling what is the treasure in national treasure and you know what it's not the it's not the declaration of independence which is what i had remembered it as no no that's the map to the treasure which is kind of like undisclosed money. Oh, yeah.

I could never keep up with the plot of that movie. I always found it confusing. Yeah. Literally, the answer that I got to after like half an hour of Googling was treasure. It is some sort of treasure. Treasure. Wow. Treasure generic.

Was there ever like, that's Nicolas Cage, right? Yeah. Was there ever like, weren't there like theories that like there was like that's Nicolas Cage, right? Yeah. Was there ever like big time? Weren't there like theories that like there was like a crossover between like the microfilm and The Rock and National Treasure, like that there was a connection there or that was like a weird fan theory? I think there are some big like fan theory, conspiracy theories that a lot of other movies take place in the National Treasure extended universe. Like many, many other movies exist in a world where the the declaration of independence and constitution have been stolen right right oh someone also pointed out that in the rock and national treasure book of secrets the same man gets his vehicle stolen while retrieving

it from a valet during the start of a chase the guy's like my i'm v that's like the same guy yeah the humvee guy from the rock also got his range rover straight up fucking just came off his range rover in book of secrets i would absolutely watch a short film that's just that man going to the car dealership and being like it happened again yeah i'm back you won't fucking believe this no i'm sorry you're gambling again aren't you rick no i'm not i wish i was gambling. No, because that got taken again. One of the few men who escaped Alcatraz, he just got a haircut and he somehow got to the lobby. I was dropping off my Humvee and he took it for a fucking joyride down in San Francisco and destroyed it.

He learned to drive and stole my car. Chris, what is something you think is underrated? Underrated? You know, I'm going to say underrated is confidently admitting that you don't know something like saying, I have no clue what you're talking about. I've never seen that movie. What does al dente mean? I love when someone comes up and says, like, I know I'm supposed to know this, but I have no clue. I'm not good at this at all, but I really admire when a person says like, never seen that.

I know I'm unable to do this but i like i admire it in other people yeah i the the it gets weird when people are just completely unwilling to acknowledge they don't know something it's one thing like i get most people the their urge is just to kind of clam up and be quiet and be like well i'm not even going to speak on it because i'm going to do the thing like in college when I didn't understand anything or school. And I was like, maybe someone else will ask the question I'm waiting to ask because I don't want to be that person. But yeah, when you see people who be like, no, that's actually not right. And you're like, you have no idea what you're talking about right now.

This is all a terrible move to have just like, oh, I love Italian food. And actually, I really like pizza. too of just like oh al dente i love italian food and um actually i really like pizza they keep trying to get further away from the thing so they can still fucking talk you know and not be wrong yeah i mean i do this all the time like i would say 90 of the time if you say ask me if i've seen a movie i'm just gonna be like of course and then i will just hope that you fill in the blanks and it really is it's a disaster that's why i respect when people do it the other way around yeah are you in a relationship i am i'm married and did you ever do that we'll be right back you're listening to the daily zeitgeist on iheart radio itunes apple store and all the spotify podcasts

it's just one app dude it's an app yeah i i'm not gonna keep explaining you need to send me the updated script because i don't know what I'm reading right now, to be completely honest. Well, Blake, to be honest, and I didn't want to out you, you don't know how to read either. Well, this is one of the things that we're here. You're right. I don't know how to read. See, I'm on the same page with Chris. I can admit when I can't do something.

And in this case, it's reading. Like that guard from marquette who was in the draft where they're like dude i'm pretty sure that guy can't i don't know how that happened i'm sorry to do a segue to the nba draft but there was a story about a guy who went to marquette and this the they were suspecting that he was he wasn't unable to read which is such a fucking indictment on every every from the teachers that failed him to the to the Big East, to the state of Wisconsin. I also think this is one of the few conspiracy theories, not about this person specifically, but anytime there's that conspiracy theory, I'm like, if they respond immediately, then it's wrong. And if they don't respond immediately, it means they couldn't read the accusation.

I believe it. Yeah. Like, yeah. Right. Same premise of like, it's kind of like the Amish jokes. Did you see that clip of someone posted on Twitter? They're like,

like I'm here in Indiana and some Amish guys pulled up to a basketball court and like the city and just started playing and we're like balling out. And then someone tweeted underneath is like, if one of them hits a step back, they got TV. That's so funny. Just so you know, just so you know, Just so you know.

Just so you know. Overrated, Chris. What's something you think is overrated, Christopher? I feel like this is, I know this is a controversial one because people come in with, you know, all sorts of overrated takes that are very pop culture. But mine is a general one. I think coffee is overrated. Coffee as a whole thing.

People are lining up and waiting for coffee at coffee shops. They're making content about a cup of bean water. I don't understand it. Coffee is exactly what it should be, but it has risen up to the level of overrated. I feel like coffee is overrated. Are you, I'm guessing just from your personality type, you may not need the aid of caffeine to 100% correct. And that is that's the gentlest way of saying, sir, you need to calm down. No, not even I'm because I'm the same way. Like I'm caffeine insensitive. And people are like, would you drink a bunch of coffee? I'm like, I don't even fuck this shit. Don't even bang unless I drink

like, like the most pure cold brew. Then I start getting up a little bit or Vietnamese coffee. Yeah, I'm the opposite where I like the taste but when i drink it my like hands start shaking because it's like oh he's like we do not need this oh shit yeah we're redlining yeah that's interesting i love so i love coffee but to your point i hate the culture around it if that makes sense where it's more of an addiction and a treat for me and also i guess a guess, a boost more than like, I don't need to have, oh, where were these beans roasted? Or like, if it tastes good, it tastes good. Does that make sense?

Like, I don't need to. A friend of mine started weighing the water, you know, because like to make like a perfect pour over, it's like a certain amount of grams of water and all this. And I get it. Yo, if that's for you, I'm glad you have the energy because I have the energy to do all kinds of weird shit,

you know, like with weed and stuff. They'd be like, why are you doing that? Because you've got to get the texture right or the blunt or else it's not fucking good. Let me do my thing. But again, each people,

everyone has their own thing. Yeah, I mean, listen, just a simple cup is fine. I try to live in general by the Sheryl Crow, you know, if it makes you happy, it can't be that bad. But I'm like, I think we've gone a little far on this one. I think we've gone a little far.

Is waiting in that line making you happy? Like I fell into this where my wife got me an espresso machine, I think, for Christmas. Wait, you also have a wife? I do. And we'll be right back. We have a break. You can listen to this podcast wherever you find your podcast. The Daily Zotcast at iHeartMedia.

And on all your Spotify podcasts apps. I just tried to high-five Chris from across the country. No, you're right. I got this espresso machine, and I liked the espresso. But then I started reading, going into the espresso Reddits, and then convincing myself that i wasn't good enough for the way i was making espresso like i just it made me feel so low espresso self-espress steam whatever you want to call that shit and wait what do you mean how did you get bummed out from like what did walk me through what were they what was being said that you're like oh i i'm not good

enough for this because they were all like, oh, I measure the beans. To what we were just talking about. I measure the water, the beans. I do it like the grounds. Isn't it like atmospheres too? Like the pressure is also a huge thing with espresso? That's a big thing. And I'm like, oh, no, mine.

I'm never going to fit into this community. And I need to buy all this shit. And then I'm like, no, I'm never going to fit into this community. And I need to buy all this shit. And then I'm like, no, I like it. Like to Chris's point, you don't have to live the whole life. You can just have something you enjoy privately. You're like, babe, which espresso machine do we have? It's a Keurig. It's a Keurig?

Okay. Okay. So none of this stuff applies here. That's what's incredible about humans, too, is we're so desperate to fit in that you're even like, I can't fit into the online espresso community. Yeah, right. Something I didn't know existed until 30 seconds ago.

Just punting the espresso machine to the curb and shit. Fuck this. I need to make more money. So I can afford better things. I do think that if you spend more than one hour on an online espresso community there should be a pop-up that says you need to make more money get back to work yeah they're like ah your income is not high enough for this to actually make sense to you because like you see there was someone i

went to some uh like some agency and like one of these talent agencies and like people talk about like oh man like they got like one of those talent agencies and like people talk about like oh man like they got like one of those insane espresso machines from fucking italy and like you go and it really is like it's like the size of like a baby grand piano and like like it's like painted like a fucking ferrari engine and you're like how much is like it's like it's thirty thousand dollars bro just give me a fucking vitamin water and i'll keep this shit moving. Yeah. Please. It's all status. You're right. Yeah.

Well, I mean, it's not that I mean, like, because obviously Italians take their shit seriously. But it's just like some things are so outside of my grasp or my experience or my interest that like when I look at it, I'm like, God, cool, man. Like, I honestly it's wasted on me because I wouldn't fucking know it came out of like a $30,000 or however many tens a thousand dollar machine. Well, there's also like someone there who's the unpaid summer intern who's like, all that I've actually learned on this job is how to use the $30,000 espresso machine. And if you actually had just not bought this, you could have paid me for my labor this summer. That would have been really nice.

Thank you so much. At least like I could have done Starbucks runs and gotten points in my app for it. Could have netted out for something at the end. Anyway, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back and we'll get into the news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold

and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life

in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary

underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. Sarah Jean Moore, the story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you.

Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up?

Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago.

We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And the Heritage Foundation, the right-wing think tank behind Project 2025, was recently the target of the hacker group Sieged Sec. They are a self-proclaimed group of gay furry hacktivists who go after specifically anti-LGBTQ plus groups.

So Project 2025, we've talked about it before, but it's getting a lot of attention now in the mainstream news, especially since Trump was trying to pull a Mariah Carey being like, oh, I don't know her. Nothing about it at all. Come to find out or just a cursory glance, you'll see that at least 140 people that worked in his first administration have a hand in it. Now, basically, just a quick summary is like it's a roadmap for Trump's next administration and what he would do sort of in the first 180 days. I mean, it's filled with batshit policies, like eliminating environmental protections, banning pornography, banning birth control, purging government employees so they can be replaced with flunkies. Just all kinds. I mean, it touches literally everything from immigration to like diversity initiatives to like who's protected and who isn't

what civil rights are or are not and it's like a huge thing which is why trump has been like oh god that thing that's posted very publicly on the internet that is proclaiming this is what's going to happen from the people who i took two-thirds of their suggestions in my first administration so it's also crammed with a mind- amount of like homophobic, transphobic nonsense, which put the Heritage Foundation in the crosshairs of siege sec. The foreword of the Project 2025 document specifically calls out the trans community by vowing an end to the so-called, quote, toxic normalization of transgenderism and the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology. transgenderism and the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology so the hackers do what they do uh and did what they did and recently announced that they have over 200 gigabytes of files from the organization which like they they just got pwned they're like we have all of your

everything um which has information ip addresses all kinds of shit of every user in their database. So a bit of sunlight as a way to sanitize things. Now, an executive from the group made his anger about the hack very public when he messaged a member of the group named Vio. This is from a write up, I think, from Rolling Stone. After declining an offer to talk with this guy named Mike Howell, who works for the Heritage Foundation on the phone, Vile said SeedSec simply wanted to, quote, shine a light on who supports the Heritage Foundation and didn't want money or fame. Howell responded by asking, well, that's why you hacked us just for that. He then said the organization was in, quote, the process of identifying and outing members of your group. Reputations and lives will be destroyed.

Closeted furries will be presented to the world for the degenerate perverts they are, is what the message has said. It continued with more threats and insults that aren't even worth mentioning. Vile responded eloquently by just saying, well, that was unprofessional, and said that he would share the conversation

between the two. Howell responded, please share widely. I hope the word spreads as fast as STDs do in your degenerate furry community. When the exchange predictably ended up online, Mike Howell responded like any homophobic white dude would and posted Eminem lyrics as like a quote tweet. Like the chat log was posted and then he fucking just he just quoted it with and i am whatever you say i am if i wasn't then why would i say i am in the paper like the

whole fucking yeah i don't he went on to say ball with the ball but bang-bang-a-dang-a-dang. Said, up, jump the boogie. So, yeah, that's kind of where, that was his response. The group is now, SiegeSec, the hacker group, is going to disband to, you know, they're like, we don't need any law enforcement heat right now. So, we're going to just, we're going to the shadows, peace. And that guy Mike Howell was like, see what I did? They're disbanding because I fucking just grilled their asses with my eminem lyrics it's all very all very america in 2024 and it feels like just you know the the tired well i didn't have this on my bingo card type story but here we are you know there there are definitely problems with living in a polarized society but i have to say this is one

of the few times where i've been like okay there's a clear benefit to living in a polarized society. But I have to say, this is one of the few times where I've been like, okay, there's a clear benefit to living in a polarized society. Because if I found out that my coworker was secretly a gay furry hacker taking down the heritage foundation, I would be like, I like you so much more right now. And everyone in this office likes you so much more like his idea of like, I'm going to out you and it's going to ruin your lives. It's going to make their lives way better. Like everyone. Yeah. Too many baked goods getting gifted their way yeah yeah truly truly truly you just like anything i was i mean i was just waiting for you to stop saying truly over and over and over truly truly well this the show is sponsored by truly spike so thank you so much truly truly truly truly truly truly tobo chico um white claw white claw white claw also 200 gigabytes is so much where it's not like this is 4K video.

It's tiny little text. It's text. That's a lot of text. That's a lot of people. And the other thing is interesting, too. I mean, we'll probably talk about this in a later episode, but there's such a huge focus on banning pornography because it's partially just sort of like, it's making, it's,

it's clouding the minds of men, but it's also like a way to sort of take back like the influence of anything that like is open, like open sexuality. So to them, that's going to, that's going to create a more openness to like any people expressing their sexuality in any way.

They're like, if we can clamp down on that, then the CIS het bros will inherit the earth but we just got to stop the fucking bleeding there and that's why we've seen all these like porn pornography bands pop up uh like left and right but clearly like those are those are very indirect attacks at like the gay and trans community so yeah that's that's such a good point they're not like we must ban the missionary position between like that's what they're worried about. They're trying to take away rights and visibility. Because everything. Yeah. And also, too, like they want to create, you know, this like very like bring back like that sex is purely like as the Bible intended for procreation and the continuation of tip for them, the like a white ethnostate.

the like a white ethno state. Well, it's also it also like ties in for me of this this like broader strategy that the right uses a lot, which is to accuse the left of doing the exact same thing that they are doing, where they're like, oh, you want to write what the left is replacing everyone in government with their their sick, indoctrinated people. And then they're like, here's a document that says exactly how we'd like to replace everyone in government with that. And they're like, oh, you're trying to influence kids and affect education by putting things that are not accurate in the textbooks. And they're like, actually, we're going to censor the textbooks.

Like, they just say the thing they're doing. Religion is rife, like in all of our curriculum. And also, please do not look at any kind of sexual abuse scandals that involve organized religion in the United States. Anyway, moving on. Exactly. There are none. And the pornography thing. It's the furries that are hacking people

on behalf of protecting like the vulnerable in society yes it is them completely that's it so wait till i unmask you yeah the pornography thing is just the same thing where it's like you guys are obsessed with pornography it's disgusting how obsessed you are with pornography not us and then you i'm sure that 200 gigabytes is just like every ip address at the heritage foundation exactly pornography 24-7. And then cut to even Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, who on the road to becoming Speaker of the House, we found out he uses this app Covenant Eyes, which prevents him from jerking off so him and his son can look at each other, whatever they're looking at on their computers. What was that called? What was the app called?

It's called Truly, Truly, Truly, Spiked Seltzer. Truly, Truly, Truly, Truly, Truly, Truly, Truly, Truly. It's called Covenant Eyes. Truly, Spiked Seltzer. Truly, Truly, Truly, Truly, Truly, Truly, Truly, Truly. It's called Covenant Eyes. I definitely have a sponsor. Yeah, I have a sponsor. Covenant Eyes, Covenant Eyes, Covenant Eyes. Cover them eyes. Cover those eyes.

You've got Covenant Eyes. I would love if Covenant Eyes was like, look, we're really in the media right now. This is our chance to branch out. We are a nonpartisan app that is just trying to help fathers and sons have cool conversations about what they're looking at online. Exactly. And if it's porn, then, yeah, get mad at each other, man. But again, this is also a thing like even within evangelical groups, too. You see them like, I've seen how porn addiction has affected my church community and things like that.

And like all this repressed sexuality. It's y'all just figure yourselves out. Stop fucking trying to figure us out. I mean, you gotta attack the demand, not the supply, right? It's the war on drugs all over again, where it's like,

the problem is that some people are addicted to pornography. So we better make sure there's never pornography again. It's like, maybe actually what you're talking about is mental health care. I think what you're describing is like affordable mental health care. Yeah. Maybe being more openness about people's gender expression or sexuality. So they're not sort of shoved into a violent closet where those ideas manifest and fester into something else.

Whatever. I don't know. What the fuck? No, it's pornography. No, no, no, no. We got to shut down. It's not bad. If I don't, if I don't have to look at them kissing, then I don't have to think about it.

Oh, sir. Sir, you're grinding your teeth while you're awake. I'm sorry, your front teeth are cracking. It looks like. Anyway, so much love to SiegeSec and doing the work of the good side in an era of evildoers, because the only evil abounds. Going on to the presidential race, just another tidbit. I mean, as it stands, Joe Biden is still the candidate. He is who's going to be run. But the thing that's surrounding, obviously, there's all this speculation. What's going on? Is he going to step down? Should he step down? He needs to step down.

I don't want him to step down. Who's going to take the money? It should be Kamala. No, it should be Gavin Newsom. Maybe it should be fucking Patrick Bateman from American Psycho. Fuck it, anyone. But if I just, God, if things weren't already grim enough surrounding this election, there's now speculation from Biden's team that Obama, Barack Obama may be pulling strings to put pressure on Biden to drop out. So on Morning Joe, which is Biden's version of Fox and Friends, as you heard from when he called into the show on Monday, and that did not go well. I don't think we talked about that because we don't need to pile on more hurt at this point, folks.

Joe Scarborough said, quote, one thing that we do that we do have to underline here, just so viewers can follow what's going on behind the scenes is the Biden campaign. And many Democratic officials do believe that Barack Obama is quietly working hard behind the scenes to orchestrate this. Mika Brzezinski, who's his wife and co-host, also said, quote, I think Barack Obama has a lot of influence and there's a lot there, which we're like, oh, we're we're doing this, huh? We're going to we're going to doing this huh we're gonna we're gonna we're blaming barack obama we're gonna we're doing we're gonna blame a person of color now for like that's the real problem probably is could be barack now some believe that obama's friendship with george clooney

who he touched on he broke up with biden via new york times op-ed earlier this week is a sign that obama at the very least isn't stopping influential people from piling on. They also point to the fact that people like David Axelrod or the Pod Save America guys have also said Biden needs to really consider like bowing out and that their former Obama aides that like this is all part of like this network of people who are might just also be observing what is happening and coming to this conclusion. But it's very interesting to see that, like, I mean, maybe it is Barack Obama. I don't know.

But it is it's like it's something that many people who have said that I don't think arises to the level of like conspiracy at this point. But I don't know. It's like putting such a nefarious spin on it and blaming Barack Obama when, you know, Putting such a nefarious spin on it and blaming Barack Obama when, you know, to me, what I'm hearing is like, if your friend Barack and all your other friends are saying the same thing, it might mean that they're just giving you good advice. Like I had a thing happen in middle school where all the cool boys were wearing their hair. They had like gel in their hair that made it spike up straight. Oh, that like Statue of Liberty little front. Exactly.

They had the Statue of Liberty spike on, but I have curly hair. Yeah, right. And so my hair, I would put the pomade in. And when I left the house, it would be spiked straight up. But by around 10 a.m., after I'd sweat a little bit, it loosened up. It would curl fully back so that I had like a cartoon baby curl. You know, like the babies have that, like you could stick a pencil. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Not a good look. And you know what? It took a lot of friends saying to me you look very bad before i was like maybe i do look bad and maybe not the right move this is a fucking conspiracy yes after all y'all oh so all y'all like you're like denzel washington at the end of training day oh okay all y'all motherfuckers, huh? Putting faces on all y'all asses. That was me. Where's everybody going? That was me in seventh grade going, you don't want me

to be cool. You're trying to pull me back with this extra hold hair gel. And now, much like Joe Biden, I hope that he will realize, actually maybe the hair thing isn't really working out. We're caught in such a hard spot.

At a certain point, I feel like most people will be like, dude, I'll vote for whoever the fuck. I don't give a fuck. It just can't be Trump. So literally, put a fucking box of Ritz crackers in a suit, and I'll fucking go for it. That also sounds cool as hell. I would love to vote for Ritz crackers in a suit.

Buttery. I mean, yeah, they are buttery. The suit is what did it for me because it's like, oh, Ritz crackers are taking themselves seriously. The job is serious. Hold on. Okay.

They're dressing for the job they want. That's impressive. The DNC is truly putting on the Ritz, I guess. Oh, wow. Miles. All right, we're going to take a quick break. I also have a wife, so would that Bob be best?

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was a key and peel sketch from years ago where the guy i don't know if he was the president or what his job was but he would do like cool handshakes with like the black people in attendance and then the white guys he would just shake their hands i'm a black person on the internet i know about key and peel and i saw obama and i saw obama dapping up the team usa players and it was the exact same shit. We'll be right back. That was what I was going to say, but with a lot of charisma.

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That doesn't make it into the show. Sometimes, I've noticed, Justin will cut it into the opening. But a lot of laughs happening. Where were we? Yes, of course course it's 2024 and i did have this on my bingo card ammo vending machines firearm ammunition vending machines are here and i guess we're all living in some kind of fucking first person shooter game because now like it's you go to a vending machine for your your bang bang bullets so in certain grocery stores in alabama oklahoma and texas you can now finally pick up a dozen eggs a gallon of milk a t-bone steak some diapers for the kids and a box

of fucking 45 ammo you know what i mean you know what i mean finally that's all i wanted right next to the water it's right there um the company claims that it's safe don't worry man the machines are equipped quote with built-in ai technology that is the biggest fucking red flag dude i don't it's like you can just say that about fucking anything now and it's meaningless but to some people who aren't critically thinking like oh wait oh, wait, the AI technology is built in. I'm sorry. What is that even fucking? Okay.

Anyway, it's expensive, and I don't really understand the technology myself. And also, like, I'm not good at, like, saying, like, I don't know something. So I'm just going to nod along and say that that's good and allow this fucking farce. I can get my bullets out of the thing. I can get them. That's all I'm concerned about. That's all say that that's good and allow this fucking farce to continue. I can get my bullets out of the thing. I can get them. That's all I'm concerned about. That's all I got to do. I can't get them.

Okay, perfect. It also has facial recognition software in order to, quote, meticulously verify the identity and age of each buyer. I'm sorry, motherfucker. With this face, you're not going to know how old I am, baby. No, no, no. This man is 12. You're going to be wrong.

Okay. Give this 12-year-old a gun. The people at the dispensary,'re fucking always they look at my id and they're like damn bro you're like 40 someone said that shit to me the other day he said literally damn bro you're like 40 and i was like this is like a younger like gen z dude working there and i was like yeah man he's like bro he's like you look good man he's like and you look like a pretty chill guy man i want to be like that when i'm 40 and i was like nice and i was like looking at him like damn like you're 22 like that when I'm 40. And I was like, nice. And I was looking at him like, damn, you're 22.

I remember being 22 and seeing an adult kind of semi having their shit together and be like, I want to be like that guy. It's not all bad. It's not all bad. I could be that. I'm scared of what's going to happen when the bullets get stuck, you know, like a bag of

chips and then you shake the whole machine. You're rocking it. It just explodes. I don't understand how vending machine technology works or how guns work, to be honest. But it does seem like an old vending machine pushing one of those bullets out quite likely that the machine is going to shoot you. Yeah, yeah.

Unless the AI is there, of course, to prevent that from happening. The AI is embedded in it. Well, also, Miles, the other thing that I thought was so funny about this story is that they were like, don't worry, it does like a full verification scan.

And they said that it does a 360 degree verification, which I think that's so funny to think, like, do a little twirl. Show me what you're working with. Yeah, is that what it's going to be like? All right, now twirl for us. Okay.

Wow. You really want this buckshot? Okay, then let us know. Show me now. Let's see it. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah, and like disco music goes off suddenly for that part.

It's like a fun moment. They're like, uh-oh, we got a hottie over here. Woo-woo. Do a little spin for us. The company's called American Rounds. And like the idea of doing a little spin and it being like, you are a certified American round. Dude, exactly. Oh, there's even a tie-in with Sexy Red, thugging with my rounds.

I didn't expect to get objectified by a bullet machine, and yet here I am. I mean, I think you're a fool if you were going to buy bullets from a bullet machine and it didn't objectify you somewhere. All right, hot stuff. Look at that cute little butt. You're like, there's an expectation that this is going to be like a controversy- transaction i don't think it's like a chivalrous bullet machine it's like no this thing's a pig right right right it's like oh what a what a nicely formed posterior you have sir it's also i mean bullets yeah we're also getting closer and closer to just living inside of the chris rock joke about making bullets cost so much money right exactly that was the thing so like again like you said american rounds their whole thing is like it's actually it's

actually safer than retail because no one can shoplift their ammo i'm sorry where the fuck are people shoplifting ammo that shit is typically at least when i've seen it like a sporting goods place it's locked up like you're not fucking shoplifting fucking ammo unless again i live in california so obviously you know we're fucking snowflakes over here and we're we don't like to have our ammo like loose so you can just pocket that shit and then head on out of whatever store you're in um but they also like but other people are just sort of like this is a bad this is a step in such a wrong direction because we already have such a gun problem that to even be like yeah things that we get out of vending machines candy bars bags of chips sodas hollow point rounds it's just all kind of the same thing and kind of takes us further and further

away from like the reality of like the real dangers that we have in our american society but also like vending machines no one has ever said like vending machines are famous for people making good decisions. Yeah. Like a vending machine is an impulse buy. Yeah. And you are, you know, you're like, this is probably, I'm going to regret this later, but it's right there.

That's not the mindset I want someone to be in when they're getting bullets. Do you like, to your point, which is spot on, like I always, when I see a vending machine, I'm always like, what's some goofy shit I can try in here. You know what I mean? Cause you're like, I'm hungry. You don't have actual food that I need. So now let's just fuck around real quick.

And if I'm, yeah. In the context of like, I need a bullets and be like, yeah, you know what? Let's fuck around really quick and get these things. But anyway,

so it has been controversial in some places in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, a city counselor like was receiving complaints about the machine about the vending machine that he thought it was a joke at first like man there's no fucking way i fucking got bullied if it's a prank call yeah and then eventually the machine was removed but not because there was fucking public outrage in true in a true capitalist sense. Just do it. It was just wasn't doing enough sales. So we had to get rid of it.

Nobody was buying from the fucking, yeah, the robo gun show. And people have made vent, uh, ammo vending machines before, but, but they were like in gun ranges,

like in the context of like, yeah, I guess here that's like the one place I can be like, that makes sense rather than next to whatever frozen pizzas or some shit but again like to your point chris about ammo we have gun regulation but ammo regulation is like purely vibes and like vaporware it's nothing really substantive because like they are so lax that, you know, like people who are prohibited from owning guns, you technically can't own you buy ammo because you're prohibited from owning a gun. So you're actually prohibited from buying ammo. There's like no process in place to actually verify like, oh, can you buy ammo?

So what? So a machine is a pretty good workaround for something like that. But it's already quite easy to procure ammunition as it is. Also, federal law bans the sale of ammo to people under the age of 18, but the law doesn't, quote, require sellers to verify a buyer's age either online or in person.

So, great. That seems a bit problematic. Some states do regulate ammunition. Like in California, like I said do regulate ammunition, like in California. Like I said, there are things like background checks. New York is also similar. But there's a gap in federal law that allows people to buy and sell ammunition across state lines without restrictions. So the laws are essentially moot.

And like, yeah, to your point, it is like it does feel like the Chris Rock bit. Because like, you know, for for a vending machine, a person selling ammunition, you can tell, oh, this person seems inebriated. Maybe a bit like they're going through something. This might not be someone. I might want to just pause really quick on selling to this person. quick on selling this person uh selling to this person but again the the machine like that if you just hold your id and do a little spin for daddy uh it will pull out the bullets and yeah i think the chris rock bit is great because you know his whole thing was like we just need to make bullets so fucking expensive that you would second you would take a second you take a beat to shoot

somebody because you then be like can i afford to fucking shoot you and that would you know that's that's why comedy is obviously the solution to everything we're going through it is at least that's what we're selling that's what we're selling out of our vending machine exactly yeah we will be uh we are back but and miles you made a good point too about like how we already have such an issue where i think making these making ammo this visible continues to normalize the like it and further entrench gun culture in the country and yeah yeah i saw it too where i mean again like lived in like pennsylvania california new york where you don't see guns but when you go to an open carry state, I remember the first time I went to like Dallas and just saw someone walking down the street with a rifle and I'm like, Oh, this is it.

And I got, I was so scared and I like started to run out of the restaurant and people were like, no, people just walk around with that. Oh yeah. Don't worry about it. And then it's like, Oh yeah. But that's a real gun, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. But he won't. So it's not LARPing. It And then it's like, Oh yeah. That's a real gun, right? Oh yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh yeah. But he won't. So it's not LARPing. It's, it's not, no, no.

So he just has a gun, but yeah. And then see, so seeing that like starts to like normalizing, it was like, Oh no, maybe guns are just normal. And then just like you said,

once it enters something that you see, that is a vending machine, which you don't equate that with something dangerous generally. And I was like, Oh yeah. If you can put bullets in a vending machine, why are we banning guns? It's normal. Like they should just be here. This is also like where this is where like regulations are so far behind the times still, because it's like like gun regulations are in some ways like almost like a moot point

at this point, because you can 3D print a ghost gun and that can't be regulated. But you can't, as far as I know, like 3D print a bullet. So now if you can like get an illegal gun and then just walk into a grocery store and not even have to deal with anyone and buy the, buy the bullets that all of a sudden is those, those are the two pieces you need. And to me, it's like, this is, this is one of those like examples of a thing where it's actually not a controversial idea that you don't want people buying like unregulated guns and unregulated bullets there's like a very vocal minority but like even gun owners are like hey don't just sell a random ass gun to anyone who wants it when they're drunk and angry and

then let them get the bullets from a vending machine like that's not a popular position among any group of people like i don't understand why we ended up with that. Cause I feel like gun owners now are becoming a little more self-conscious about the gun problem too. They're like, well, some, some idiots are ruining it,

man. There's responsible gun owners too. And this is some whack jobs too. But yeah. And there are, I mean, there are responsible gun owners. It's just like the problem is like,

what are you willing to sacrifice to stop the irresponsible people? Yeah, no, 100%. And also, I got to say, like, my hope here is that I would hope that the ammo vending machine ends up like the Bitcoin ATM, where I've like seen a Bitcoin ATM and I've never once seen a person use it. Because I'm like, that is solving a problem that no one had. And I think, I hope that the ammo vending machine is the same thing. The elderly being scammed. Yeah, exactly. Like truly like they get those phone calls and they're like, this is the IRS.

You need to give us $15,000 at this Bitcoin ATM or we're going to fucking arrest you. And then like this like poor 78 year old person like, where do I go? Like go to this Bitcoin ATM. So I think, again, like the Bitcoin ATM, only bad things will come of this. So I do. I hope for a very short lifespan. And this will just be one of those stories. We just go back and remember that.

Remember that? Oh, it's a joke. Yeah. Oh, it's a joke. Oh, wait. No. President Trump says they have to be in every gas station now. OK.

Well, Chris Duffy, thank you so much, man, for joining us on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where do people find you, follow you, hear you, support you? And what is a tweet or other work of media that you've been enjoying? Thank you so much for having me. This was a true pleasure, a truly, truly, truly a pleasure. You can find me online at chrisduffycomedy.com or at Chris, the letter I, Duffy, because someone else got that Chris Duffy before me. And what's a piece of media that I have been enjoying? I'll tell you, a serious one is Andrew Leland wrote this book called The Country of the Blind

about slowly losing his sight that I think is like one of the best books that I've read in a really long time and really interesting. Think about ability and disability and what it means to be in the world. And then a silly one is, I have been absolutely loving Justin Joke at J-J-O-Q-U-E on X

posted Google AI's response to the first person to backflip. And it has been making me laugh all day, which is that it said, it's difficult to trace the origins of the backflip, but some say that John Backflip performed the first backflip

in 1316 in medieval Europe. However, Backflip was eventually exiled after his rival, William Frontflip, convinced the public that Backflip was using witchcraft. And that is a masterpiece. I hope AI never corrects itself. It won't. And it won't.

And it won't. Hopefully it will. It too will come crashing down. Blake, thank you so much for joining me today. Or Blake, thank you so much for joining me today. Or rather, thank you so much for allowing me to join you today. Where do the people find you? It's always great having you on the show, Chris. You are awesome. Always an honor.

Always an honor. Chris, what is the name of your audio book? It's called Let's Hang Out. And it's on EverAnd. Let's Hang Out. That's one of my plugs. I'm going to plug Chris's thing. Oh, wow.

And I know I only get three. So that's one third of them. That's one. And's that's one of my plugs i'm gonna plug chris's thing and then oh wow ah and i know i only get three so that's one third of them that's one and then the other one is uh you gotta say truly two more times too before truly truly okay there you go now i can do two more truly truly truly white claw white claw white claw and on july 18th i'm uh gonna be in charleston south carolina headlining the tin roof and the the last time I was there was five years ago. And that was the first time that a zeitgang person, a listener to this podcast came to one of my shows and introduced themselves in person. So that was a cool thing.

And I've been seeing them, uh, across the country performing. So yeah, if you're a, if you're going to show, come out, keep representing.

We appreciate you. That is, I really, really appreciate it. So July 18th, Charleston, South Carolina at the tin roof and also i'm uh hosting this game show for the philadelphia eagles where uh with their players

and stuff so if you're not a football fan just watch it to see how small i look next yeah it is it's like a wish kid yeah it's pretty it's pretty funny uh visually so anyway that's on the philadelphia eagles youtube there it is uh i'll share a media i don't care i'll share a media Yeah, it's pretty funny visually. So anyway, that's on the Philadelphia Eagles YouTube. There it is. And I'll share a media. I don't care. I'll share a media. Oh, yeah.

What the hell? Yeah. Come on. If I have time. If we have time to do it. Yeah, we do. There was someone sent me this. I think it's How Everything Works and Every Day's Posts was the name of the Instagram

accounts. And it's a montage of Lionel Messi's bodyguard taking care of people. And it's such a funny watch where he's juxtaposed next to the staff that these stadiums underpay and don't take care of with benefits. So they can only do so much to stop a fan from running on the field. This guy is so nimble. He sees things before they happen. There's a hilarious clip where someone goes to put their arm and he moves his hand he he quickly delicately and seamlessly right off yeah it's it's it's a funny it's a no petting the goat yeah no no no petting or feeding the goat please the other

one too is like when he's on the sidelines and you can tell he's clocking somebody about to run on the field he's like in a fucking three-point stance and just fucking explodes out the blocks like and i'm like i don't even see the person on camera and then boom intercepted it's like having a tiger work for you it's it's so impressive this guy i don't want to know whatever what kind of dark military shit that guy probably didn't get that job you know what i mean he's like oh you're not to know yeah he's like i don't want to know either yeah uh well uh tweet i like one is from at dave macnamee 3000 um a lot of people have been sharing like pictures of like denzel washington from the gladiator 2 trailer and this one this look is just so good for anyone who watches uh movies with their partner

says he's like, it's just like this Denzel glaring look, looking low. And it says, this is the look you hit your girl with when she's on her phone during the movie you picked to watch. Come on. I'm like,

I'm like, for real. I'm like, you said you wanted to watch this, please. This is good. And then one more From How will this DC

Tweeted I miss when AI stood For Allen Iverson And that's That is factual Anyway you can find me at Miles of gray on Twitter and Instagram you can find Jack and I normally on our basketball podcast Miles and Jack I'm at boosties catch me Talking about 90 day fiance on 420 Instagram. You can find Jack and I normally on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack, I'm at Boosties. Catch me

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What was that, like a mammoth grunt? That's a cow. That's a heifer. Oh, that was a cow. That was actually really good. I was, for some reason, I was like, I like that. What was that? Like a mammoth? That's a cow. That's a heifer. Oh, that was a cow. That was actually really good. I was, for some reason, I was like, I felt like I was watching Jurassic Park. And I was remembering there's the raptor pen scene. That thing's about to get torn apart. It's a Jurassic Park remake that's only farm animals inside of there. They open the gates.

It's just a cow. Why is it? Doesn't this electric fence feel like overkill It's just the goat in there You don't even have the T-Rex You just have the goat in the giant electric fence Yeah just wait the goat just comes up on that platform And you're like what the fuck is this It's the goat

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