The Daily Zeitgeist - Gaetz Guilt Gallop, The WORST Xmas Song? 12.19.24

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

In episode 1794, Jack and Miles are joined by host of White Homework, Tori Williams Douglass, to discuss… What The F**k Is This Dude Doing With His Hair? Matt Gaetz Ethics Report Is Gonna Drop..., Music Experts Try To Explain Why The Worst Christmas Is So Bad and more! Matt Gaetz Ethics Report Is Gonna Drop... "There is no getting around the fact that he repeats the phrase 'simply having a wonderful Christmastime' 17 times": A music professor breaks down the theory behind Paul McCartney's Wonderful Christmastime “Santa Baby” is one of Americans’ most disliked Christmas songs Worst Christmas songs of all time revealed - and the results will surprise you The 20 Sh*ttiest Christmas Songs Ever Recorded Paul McCartney Song Named Most Hated Christmas Tune Tweet from @theryangeorge: Paul McCartney's "Wonderful Christmastime" is about friends practicing witchcraft but then someone walks in and they have to suddenly play it cool LISTEN: Blame by GabrielsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wonderful Christmas time. It's just like the story is just him being like, the term chorus is generous. Another of the song's oddities, the structure, the first verse and so abruptly the wondrous Christmas time refrain feels like a festive assault on one's auditory nerve. This is just him writing. Just getting angry at that. Just getting getting some shit off his chest. Wow.

You actually made me feel better. Like you gave this song a second life in my brain because I had always I inherited the belief that it was the worst Christmas song. And then you were like, it's not that bad. I was like, oh, maybe it's not that bad. I love the fucking weird ass keyboards in it. Yeah. And then I'm like, OK, someone was high in the suit and I was like,

I've never heard that that sense part at the beginning. It's always I guess I associate it with coming into the middle of the song while I'm out holiday shopping. And it's like it's like a wonderful. Yeah. while I'm out holiday shopping. And it's like, it's like, yeah, yeah. This guy has a theory that the song is secretly about practicing witchcraft and faking a Christmas celebration every time somebody walks in.

Because like, like it's like all weird and like trippy and vibey. Oh, the spirits up? Like this guy? Yeah. So it's simply got a chicken. You're about to cut its head off. Simply put that fucking chicken away. All right.

There's something spooky about it. I don't is that just me? It's here. I think it probably hits everyone's brain differently. I mean, that I always people always have hated this song. I've always heard that take forever. I just personally, I was like, no, I don't know. I fuck with it.

I don't even like it. It's just I think the thing is I don't give a shit. Like I think anyone who likes music, you're not offended by other people's dislike of a song. Because like, right, you understand what talks to you about music. You're like, yeah, whatever. If it fucking anger, simply, but I guess that's the part I like. That's what I want to know is like specifically, like let's drill down. Cause I think it's different for every person.

Some people be there. People were like music snobs. Like this is one of McCartney's worst songs. And I'm like, sure. I think it's not so much Paul McCartney. It's like no one else can sing it without sounding like an asshole. And that's what it's, it's, it's. The party's on. It's like no one else can sing it without sounding like an asshole. And that's what it's it's the parties. It's not it's not that part.

It's I don't I don't even believe that's the only part I know. That's the only part I know. Yeah. And you know what? I have to kind of do this kind of physicality. There's a creepy, like open eye like it has to it like it feels like a small. The Small World Ride like that. like that song you know that's just like never stops repeating yes that's that's exactly that's exactly the nail on the head that's why it's good yeah and that's why it's good it feels like a satanic chant that never

stops like robots going like this yeah it feels like like a hell world of Christmas, like on fire. You know what I mean? Welcome to Christmas hell world. Yeah. It feels apocalyptic, right? Yeah, it does. It does. I think you're right. All right, we're gonna spend most of the episode talking about this.

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Hello, the internet and welcome to season three 69 episode four of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. We now have a YouTube channel, YouTube at Daily Zeitgeist Pod. You can go check us out. One episode a week. That's all you get. No more, no less. So, I don't know. We simply don't have the funds. We simply can't. We simply mustn't. And this is the last episode, last regular episode of the year, I think. We've got a bunch of fun stuff coming to you for the holidays, but this is Thursday, December 19th 2024 this is the episode that's always a bit ramshackle a bit. Yeah

Word that you can hear. I don't know if you guys hear the wheel squeaking. That's the VCR card rolling in right now No, I got a lesson plan about the Civil War or something, but no, we're going to watch some old music videos maybe. We even have a full episode plan, a full episode of notes. Let's see where we get. Let's see where we get. In the 20 minutes before, when we were first supposed to be recording those episodes,

we just got completely derailed by a conversation about, what is the worst Christmas song? Yeah, to the point we left Christmas or guests in the waiting room I know we're so sorry each other about yes, and yeah, and then I was like bring bring them so we can settle this But anyway, it is December 19th. It is national oatmeal muffin date, dude Get the fuck out of here full December 19th, and you're trying to claim that. Oh, no. Yo national hard candy day, whatever National regifting the Thursday before Christmas is national regifting. Okay. I guess that's just when you're like, hey, man What? Hard candy day, whatever. National re-gifting day. The Thursday before Christmas is national re-gifting day.

Okay. I guess that's just when you're like, hey man, whatever that shit you copped at the office party, flip that into a last minute gift for your step-shots. There you go. God, oatmeal muffin day. Like what a, just not knowing, not understanding yourself at all, oatmeal muffins. What is it?

Have you had an oatmeal muffin? That's actually hearing guys. I said an oat muffin like I've had bread muffins Oh, maybe that's what it is oatmeal cookies fine. Like shout out my grandmother It's just like there's so many delicious without meal and pastries. Yeah Yeah, what do you think? You think it's just a regular muffin and then you open it and just hot Or he's like what the fuck's wrong with you? It just oozes out. I've made them before. They're healthy.

They're not supposed to be yummy. They're supposed to be a healthy snack. I know. So how are they choosing this time of year to try and celebrate their bullshit day? It's like Brussels sprouts day. I mean, that's me being like- Brussels sprouts are amazing though. Sorry.

Brussels sprouts are going with a Christmas roast, Miles. Hold on. Let me caveat that with I'm very sick and I'm in the mindset of an 80s ad executive right now. Kids, what the heck? The kids hate their baby brains. That's what I call them. And they don't want to eat it. Is that what you call?

That's what my dad used to call that shit. He's like, eat your baby brains. That's that makes it gross. I'm sorry. Yeah, look, he's an artist. You know what I mean? So he was trying to conceptualize something. But when you look at it, you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see it. But I wouldn't call that to my kids if I wanted them to eat. Look, he's a complicated man and no one will understand him except his third wife.

He's a complicated man and no one understands him, but his third wife, Miles Dad. You're damn right. That's really good. My name's Jack O'Brien, AKA. Hey baby, I hear the brushes popping. There he goes. Jesus. Small head.

He's coming again. Bigfoot has left the building. That one courtesy of Chrissy Yamaguchi, Maine, a little scrambled eggs, Frasier theme as sung by Kelsey Grammer, my favorite musician, Kelsey Grammer. In reference to the video that Chris Crofton shared with us yesterday, when Miles was out, it was pure chaos. It was a real. Yeah. When I, when I was like sending up the bat yesterday when Miles was out, it was pure chaos.

It was a real, uh, when I was like, send up the bat signal. Cause I was too ill and then Victor's like Wexler's and I was like, oh shit. Wexler and Crofton together. Now you know, you're in trouble. But, uh, he, he brought a, a big foot sighting video where the guy is like, yeah, you can hear the brushes popping. And then he sees it.

He goes, there he goes. Jesus. I'm like hides. And for some reason, something about the way he says those two things is now stuck in my head. So shout out to Christy Yamaguchi man for putting it back where it belongs in my head. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host. He's feeling a little better, folks. shout out to Christy Yamaguchi man for putting it back where it belongs in my head. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, he's feeling a little better folks, it's Miles Gray.

It's Miles Gray, drones up in the sky, allowed to fly twice as high. Take a look, it's in a book, they changed the law now. They can go anywhere. Friends all know the drones can go right in your window. Shout out Snarfula on the discord for that one. Shout out to everybody who has been asking me for discord invites.

I know I was like hit me up on blue sky. I've been very sick. I've just been getting around to you know, I was like, hit me up on Blue Sky. I've been very sick. I've just been getting around to, you know, hitting those requests, accommodating people. So please keep hitting me up. I haven't forgotten you. I'm just ill. And shout out to LeVar. Shout out to LeVar.

Yeah. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third SEPA, one of our favorite guests, a brilliant anti-racism educator, activist, writer, creator of the Acclaimed podcast, White Homework. Please welcome back to the show, Tory Williams Douglas! Hi, Tory, aka, I'm on the Discord now, you guys. What's up?

Ain't man any better built like me? I'm just one of a kind. Grew up on the good word, baby. Now I know it was a lie. I'm bent out with the youngins teaching so they get a better life. Won't stop till we all can live free. That's just my fight. Anyway, thank you. Appreciate it. I couple weeks ago, I was like, Oh, I'm gonna be on give me an aka. Yeah. Thinking this is the Christmas episode. I should have done a fucking Christmas song.

It's okay. I love Shaboosie. That was great. So I'm here for it. Yeah. You evoked a good book. You know, so that was tangentially a Jesus. Okay. Tangentially related. Yeah. For me, that is the only reason for the season. We don't acknowledge any in this household.

We don't acknowledge any of the pagan rituals. My front yard it says, in this house Christmas is about Jesus. Fuck that. The birth of Christ. Only manger scenes in every room. Anyway. It's so good to have you back, Tori.

Thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be back. That was a great AK. I felt like they put some research in. Yeah. That was pretty impressive. Yeah, they did. They were like, hey, what's your social media?

Let me go research you. I was like, oh, sweet. Okay, cool. Works out great. I mean, for people who do go buy the book, obviously you wouldn't know that December probably might not have been the time. But anyway, I'm just saying. The Gospel of Luke does say that when Mary and Joseph gathered in a manger near Bethlehem, there were shepherds watching over their flock by night.

So they weren't out. It's cold. That might have been the springtime. But hey. Or the autumn. Jesus is in Aries. Let's be honest. Wow.

I thought Jesus kind of gives like Scorpio vibes to be honest. Oh, well, I guess it depends on which gospel you're reading. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're different. Yeah. I got to learn what any of this shit means. Yeah. Who's this Jesus fuck you're talking about? I know exactly what a Scorpio is, but who's Jesus? Who's Jesus?

That'd be fun to just like go around like a Christian group and just start asking the questions they've been dying for you to ask. Like, who's this Jesus you speak of? Sorry. Yeah, my first time guys being in this Bible group, just first question, and I feel so bad asking, who is Jesus? So Son of God, he must have been so just ruined by the power and just power hungry, right? I grew up with a kid who had a famous father and they became a drug addict.

Yeah. Is that what he was like? He was kind of like what it's like for Jesus. Was he kind of like off that or no? Just mad with power, right? For sure. Yeah. They would just be like- Throwing people off of boats, all kinds of stuff. So fucking psyched.

Flipping tables and shit. Brother, they would be turning their hat backwards, turning their chair backwards, but psyched. Flipping tables and shit. Brother, they would be, they would be turning their hat backwards, turning their chair backwards, like, but like so excited. They keep doing it like so much. They start a fire. They just start spinning without even using their limbs. Just from this year. Same like, what would be, what's, what's the question?

Like an evangelical question? Absolutely excited to hear like maybe someone who might be able to be brought into the fold. Oh, yeah, definitely. It's it's absolutely like, hey, I think I'm think I think I'm ready to like, give my life to Jesus. Can you tell me more about that? And then they are then they get really excited. They're like, Oh, my god, are you serious? And you can be like, No.

Just kidding. I'm not ready. I'm not ready. I'm willing to give like, so I already give like part of Sunday. I'm willing to give like maybe a little bit of Monday. Uh, what do you think? Can you work with that? He doing anything Mondays?

Way too much football to watch. I guess after January, I could probably pencil something. All right, Tori, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. I don't know what we're talking about today. I mean, Donald Trump's like trying something new with his hair. Matt Gaetz's ethics report is probably going to drop. Democrats are continuing to do their thing.

We got some Pornh hub news, a couple different, uh, we got porn hub being banned in Florida, Floridians have less than two weeks to jack off to porn hub. Uh, there is like, when they go to porn hub, there is a countdown clock because of Christian nationalism. Yeah. It's, you know, it's counting down his return. Thank you. They also released their year-end review for like porn search terms.

So we got some, uh, porn hub news. Christian nationalism. Yeah. It's no, it's counting down his return. Thank you. Yeah. They also released their year-end review for like porn search terms. So we got the year-end review and review, but mainly we've got this story that our writer, JM, JM McNabb, one of the greats, uh, typically objective, typically objective, very like it's, it's a new angle from him where he just went. It's basically a story, like, the title is music experts try to explain why the worst Christmas is so bad, but it's just like him being like, this song fucking sucks, am I right?

So, but I do, I want to talk about like the worst Christmas songs because like that is a song that I grew up hearing from other people was the worst Christmas songs because that is a song that I grew up hearing from other people, was the worst Christmas song. I had accepted that opinion. I was just like, sure, I'll have that opinion. I don't want to burn the energy of having my own opinion about what's the worst Christmas song. I like them all. But then Miles was like, I like the way the- I like it. Not even the-

The vibes. Whatever. I'm not mad at it. I listened to it again with New Year's and I was like, yeah, it has a different texture than every other Christmas song. Why not? But anyways, we're going to talk about bad Christmas songs. Do they exist?

What are they for us? All of that, plenty more. But first, Tory, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Wow. Well, OK, so I've been searching. There is a weirdo white supremacist. He's like trying to buy up part of like a really big port in Oregon.

And so I'm trying to like keep an eye on this because it's just weird. It's very strange. He wants to make like a light supremacist haven in Coos Bay, Oregon. Oh, COOS Bay. Yeah. Coos. Coos Bay. It's probably an indigenous word, honestly, because most of the things that are named here are. Yeah. And I'm sure they have some thoughts on how to rename it too. Well, yeah, I'm sure. Anyway, this guy's a fucking weirdo. He drove up onto an overpass here in Portland a couple of months ago to put up an end white genocide sign. Anyway, he gets all these contracts from the state of Oregon,

which is already super sus, and he's getting like hundreds of thousands of dollars. To do what? For what does he get the contract? Uh, what are they paying him to do? Boat shipping stuff. I think. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. And so he wants to buy a part of this Bay because they're putting in like billions of dollars into it between state money and federal money to like revitalize it. And he was like, this is perfect. I can bring all the whites here. We can start a white utopia. It'll be great. Wow, in Oregon, of all the states on the West Coast.

Who'd have thought? Who'd have thought? So anyway, yeah. Look up the history of Oregon for anybody who doesn't know what we're referring to. Alexa, what's the history of Oregon? Alexa, ask when Oregon passed its first black exclusionary law. The results will startle you. So this guy is just horrible. And there's been activists, anti-fascists, and Corvallis have been trying to infiltrate the Oregon White Lives Matter chapter to get dirt on this dude.

So they did, but then none of like news places would carry the story. They finally broke it. Like the big newspaper finally was like, oh, I guess we should pay probably attention to this like six days ago. So the Oregonian was like, oh, yeah. So this guy has like very clear ties to neo-Nazis, and he's not even trying to hide it. Maybe we shouldn't give him millions of dollars

in state contracts. Guess he's bad, fine. I guess now that you mention it, right, he seemed chill. If you met him, you wouldn't believe it. You'd actually think he was pretty chill. Wait, so he wants to own the port in Coos Bay specifically? He wants to own part of the port, yeah,

because they're putting, if he buys part of the port, then he gets some of this money, like this federal and state money that they're putting in to revitalize it And he's like this will be really great For I thought it was like right I thought it was like away like long-term thinking like as a foothold for like to be have like some Secessionist state where you still have like a port where you can do imports and exports. Not that I'm just we know of at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do think long term.

So I wouldn't put it past them. They've stayed on message pretty consistently. So but it's like the biggest, like inland or like the deepest inland port between like San Francisco and Seattle, which is kind of a big deal. So there is there are reasons that people want it and like want that want to be able to use that space for like industry and shipping and all these things, which makes sense logistically and logically. He's just trying to like get his like germy little hands in there because I'm sure he's like an anti-vaxxer and all that good shit as well.

Yeah, get your Trump books. Right. Exactly. They're never like, yeah, they I feel like they're generally not that like trustworthy. Generally. Like if they have that going on in their head, running a massive port, it's probably not going to go so well. I feel like they're going to fuck a lot of things up. No, it's so short-sighted. They're probably like, dude, we can get money if we own this port. And then they're like, but you got to run the port. Then, and then they're like, but you gotta run the port. Oh, don't want to do the work. I just want the money. I just want the dollars.

Oh man. That's a, that's a wild thing. About that. It's bananas. So anyway, that's what I've been Googling lately. What, what's something underrated underrated, honestly, wandering around in target, which target does not want me to do because they have locked everything up. And it used to be like a nice experience.

You guys, please be proud of me. I just let my prime, my Amazon Prime lapse lapse. So I'm out of the club. But like, you can't go to Target and just like buy the stuff you need because everything is locked. They don't hire anyone anymore. So there's no one on the floor So you press the button to get like or the buzzer to like get an employee to come out No one shows up. So you just stand there for 10 or 15 minutes, right? And it's just like what what are we? What are we doing here?

We're under staffing our stores and then you know They have to deal with the consequences of the people on the floor Not us the people who make the decisions about how much to staff them. To answer your question, you just ask. As a target executive, that's what we're doing. It works out fucking great for us and our shareholders. Thank you for asking. No further answer. Having no further answers. So there's three armed guards at my target specifically who just stand there. Oh yeah. You're the one who wants to arm.

So that's like a couple hundred dollars an hour that they're paying for this contract, right? The employees aren't getting that obviously. The armed guards are not getting a couple hundred dollars an hour. But the contract for sure. I get more than normal security guards because they're armed. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So they're getting the company probably gets more. Whoever employed, I actually make more for like unarmed security gigs. Right. Right. But anyway, so yeah, they're spending money on armed security instead of on employees. Right. And so there's no, and so I'm just like, what? I don't, I don't know what I'm supposed to do anymore.

This is like part of my life for like over a decade. It's just like wandering around Target and it was like kind of pleasant. And now it's just like, oh, yeah, yeah, I miss it. We hate you. You suck. We think you're stealing stuff. Get out. Like, OK, fine, I just won't be here. But surely you've heard of the crime wave that's sweeping the nation. And that's why I have heard of this crime wave.

Yes, yes. I've noticed that it's why it's down. Her visual remind now it's down. Oh, well, I mean, that's if you look at the data. If you don't look at the citizens app, on the other hand, if you look at some of these videos is going wild. If you see some of the shit that Elon retweets, I wouldn't even go outside to get my newspaper. Yeah.

Oh, no. Thank you. I haven't seen what he's retweeting because I'm one of those guys now. No, but you know what I mean? It's just like that shit that like where people clearly who like don't actually live in any sort of like area where there's any sort of diversity or anything, they, they, whatever goes viral on Twitter, like, and that's Earth right now. Ring cam footage. It's like there's any sort of diversity or anything. They, they, whatever goes viral on Twitter, like, and that's Earth right now.

Ring cam footage. It's like there's, that's not, that's not tip. Ring cam footage cannot be like, that's Earth, that's real. We can't extrapolate anything from that. It's a one-off situation. Like anything you see on a ring cam. No, that's everything, everywhere, all at once.

Selected by, yeah, yeah. It's like the, everybody's like, the drivers in Russia are fucking crazy, bro. And it's like, no, Russia just has a law that every- Oh, dash cam videos. Yeah, dash cam, Russia has a law that every car needs to have a dash cam video. And so, or a dash cam camera, that's redundant.

Every car needs to have a dash cam. You're your own editor there. And so, they're, So they're getting every accident and you're just getting every single one of them piped directly to you by the algorithm machine. The same shit is happening with crime in America and ring cams. And we're just people. Where was that shit when I was playing basketball during nutrition in high school? I twisted this one kid up so bad with a crossover. There were no cameras. I know. But if there was, we could we could just zero in on that. And you would might you might think I had a good handle.

So I do not. Turing, what's something you think is overrated? The seasonal frosties. And like the limited time kind of. Oh, like a Wendy's frosty? Yeah, like the Wendy's frosties and like the limited time kind of. Oh, like a Wendy's Frosty? Yeah, like the Wendy's Frosty's and like the limited time desserts at like McDonald's. I don't know. Yeah. I'm like, they're not doing it for you this year or you just don't like them in concept.

They really fell off. I don't they're just not good. Like so I saw that they were doing the like salted caramel frosty and I was like, oh, I love salted caramel ice cream. I'm going to go check this out. It was atrocious, like not eatable. It's for it's for children, I think, between the ages of eight and 13. Yeah. Wow.

It was like this tastes like it's for children between the ages of eight and 13. That's because I have children between the ages of 13. So they were into it. I fucking loved it. And the Grimace Shake, I'm having to pick this up every day after soccer camp. I was like, I mean, these are so bad. Why are we thinking- I actually kind of fucked with the Grimace Shake. Did you try the Grimace Shake? Are they still showing it? It tasted blueberry-ish to me. No, not the Grimace Shake.

Yeah, yeah. It was like a blueberry milkshake. It was like a mix between a blueberry smoothie and the milkshake. I actually kind of fucked with it. But I, yeah, I've never seen a product look less interesting. Like the concept of a salted caramel smoothie or salted caramel frosty could be good if you were like drizzling salted caramel on a regular frosty or something. Sure. But this was just like a bright yellow frosty.

It's like, why is it so yellow, guys? It's just nasty. It looks like a dull whip. It's sweet if it's not fluorescent, like bright fluorescent color. Yeah, it kind of looks like- Yeah, it looks like a dull whip. I wasn't into it. Yes, it was super straight. Like the color was not, was very off putting. It sort of looked like if you blended a,

like a slice of pumpkin pie without the crust was sort of the color of mine. Yeah. And it was just way too sweet. There was no, there was no salt involved. And it was, I was just disappointed. Yeah. Yeah.

Guys, come on, this could be good. Do better Wendy, do better. There's so much potential here. Do better Wendy. What do you There's so much potential here. Do better Wendy. What do you think of the Shamrock Shake? Again, it's okay. Do better. It's okay.

It's okay. It's like, I don't, I recognize as a objective, like out completely out of context, I would be like, why did you make a toothpaste milkshake? Like this is a bad idea. But in season, like I do have memories of being like, this is magical. Well, that's because your brain was not. This is my Irish heritage, right?

Yeah, but you didn't become fully cynical then. You know what I mean? That's fair. I mean, but that was like high school. I had it in high school and I was just like the combination of like the green and you know. Made your eyes bleed? Yeah, combination made my eyes, Shamrock shake with McDonald's fries.

Yeah. So I don't know. I, I get it. I don't, I, the, the salted caramel frosty just was a, was a big whiff for me. Just not even like, I didn't try it, but just seeing the ads and they are all over like sports right now. It just didn't look that good. Not great.

We won't be fooled again. Yeah, exactly. Again. Woo. Okay. Like more pie based, like a, you know, pie based milkshakes. The Shake Shack does those really well. Where you have little chunks of graham cracker.

You got to have texture. That's the thing. Yeah. It's all about texture. When you're talking salted caramel, drizzle it, drizzle it just a little bit. Yeah, definitely. I want to see you drizzle it. Just a little bit. There's a local spot here in Portland called Burgerville and they do much better dessert type things than they have.

And their stuff is very seasonal, but it's it's all from like local spots. So they're like very intentional about that. Miles, when you were in Seattle and you went to Dix, I was like, Oh, my gosh, I got to get miles to Burgerville, because if you like Dix, you're going to love Burgerville. So yeah, yeah. Next time in Portland, I'll hit you up. Definitely. It's great. I'll be there. But their little desserts are great. And they'll do. Yeah, they'll do like, you know, angel food cake

in the in the summertime when strawberries are in season. So it'll be like a little angel food like cake shake thing. Oh, oh, yeah. So, oh, anyway. That's what I love about Portland, though. They fucking. Oh, yeah. We fuck what I love about Portland though. They fucking. Oh yeah, we fuck with food and it's amazing. Like even to the detriment of the business, like it'll be so specific.

Like we might not last till next year and we did it. But we fucking, our ethos is clear. Yeah, yeah, I love it. Shout out to the lower like property rental rates because I think that's what really enables that kind of entrepreneurship. Yeah. And we get a lot of like, like food tourism. So people like fly up from like the Bay Area or come down from Seattle like for the weekend just to eat. Because we like,

there's a spot that's down the street for me. It's called Eam and it's Thai. It's Thai barbecue that that smoke brisket curry that smoked brisket curry, that white curry. Yup. Yup. Like life-changing. So fucking good. So good. And they're blended drinks too. I'm mad at them.

Oh yeah. Yeah, their cocktails are amazing. Not mad at them either. Not mad at them. Uh-huh. Anyway, we have lots of good food. Yeah. So much.

Yim is like, I always go to Yim when I'm in Portland. Yeah. Yeah. It's a must. Go to Khan if you haven't gone yet, the new Haitian restaurant. Ooh, sac passe. Uh-huh, it's good shit. A boule.

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This episode is brought to you by eBay. Whatever you love, find it on eBay. eBay, things people love. And Miles... Ah! What? Oh, hey, it's me, Miles. Sorry. I just popped out of the bushes next to you. What's up?

It's no secret, we're shoe guys. Oh, yeah. You know, we like our sneakers. Absolutely. Love my sneakers. Oh yeah. You know, we like our sneakers. Absolutely, love my sneakers. But we also have quietly, maybe off mic, slowly been gravitating towards more comfortable shoes. I've been pretty open about how my feet are widening and hurting more, therefore I require a shoe that,

I guess I would like to call them wisdom shoes, but I guess people call them dad shoes. Wisdom shoes. I like that. These are my wisdom shoes. You're openly dad shoe curious. Yes. Well, so I went to eBay, I searched dad shoes and that will take you to a couple of the wisest dad shoes, the deadest dad shoes I've ever seen. Like some of them are pre-broken in. They also take you to a pair of Kobe's that I feel like I wouldn't classify as dad shoes, but.

That feels like a bit of an attack on me as a millennial to be like, and this one, that's for daddies. No, no, no, it's kind of like an iconic sneaker either way. Dads can wear them too, if they want to. Yeah. I guess if you're sitting at the card table and you can't spot the dad shoe, you're the one wearing the dad shoes, as the old statement goes.

Are New Balance's dad shoes anymore, or are they too mainstream? I think New Balance's, they're mainstream, but I think they're still tried and true dad shoes. And I think that's why they've become mainstream because as the dad shoot becomes more popular, people go into their memory banks and they're like, yeah, new balances. But now I think, you know, along with new balances, I feel like Hoka is

definitely the one that every person who's like, oh, you got a kid now, man. You got to try this. You got to try it. You got, you're going to love them. I like this character. He's a guy smoking outside of the maternity ward at the hospital. He's like congrats man. He got a kid man.

Yeah. But gesturing to your feet is like your footwear is all wrong, man. Your footwear is all wrong. But he needs an update brother. Yeah. Your dogs are going to be barking now that you're on daddy duty, my man. You're going to, you're going to want some maybe pre-broken. I like the idea of pre-broken in as just sort of like a way to describe a lightly used shoe. We've done some of the work for you. Yeah. You're gonna, you're gonna want some maybe pre broken. I like the idea of pre broken in as just sort of like a way to describe a lightly

used shoe. Uh, we've done some of the work for you. Yeah. Yeah. As if it's like a bespoke, like a baseball mitt. It's like pre broken in. Yeah. Yeah. Ready to go at a moment's notice. Well, hey, we all got a thing, man. And whatever it is, it's on eBay. Maybe it's fashion, car parts, trading cards, retro movie posters, anything you can collect. So go find the thing that keeps you up at night. Whatever you love, find it on eBay. eBay, things people love.

And we're back. We're back. And real quick, Trump seems to be doing either, either he's doing something intentionally with his hair that suggests that he is like kind of a changed person who doesn't, who no longer gives a shit. Who's just like, I'm fucking president. I don't care. You want to throw a breakup, you guys?

This is how we know that Malone is gone. This is the first time she's left. He's like, how do you guys like This is how we know that she's like, how do you guys like it? I got curtain bangs. What the fuck happened, bro? You know, I've always wanted them. I've always, but I just figured I needed to change. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah. It is a new haircut. I can't tell if it, cause like he's definitely been pictured like this while golfing and like wandering around Mar-a-Lago before, but is he more consistently just rolling out with his hair slicked back? I don't know. It's hard to know. It's fucking hard to know with this dude. Half the time, it's like an accident.

Other times, maybe Baron was gassing him up. He's like, yeah, dad, that shit looks fucking rizzed up, bro. You're rizzed up. You just need to perm that. You need to just going to perm that. Yeah. Yeah. You have you have you heard of S Curl? Oh, my God. OK. Anyway, I don't know. I don't know what's going on. It looks like a sign of things to come.

It's slinked back, though. Or that's maybe more pushed back. It's blown back. It's blown. It looks like, yeah, it looks like he was out in a hurricane. And it looks like John Voight. He does. Like in really bad shape. He looks like a toad. He really looks a lot like a toad in this picture with just like kind of little hair

on top. Anyway, it's not great. I'm worried about our president, you guys. He looks like he's not Joe Biden. Him too. No, our president, not your president. Our president, president of the people. Yeah.

I do wonder if we're just going to have two consecutive terms of brain meltage. Because we saw him doing shit on the trail. He's on an upward trend. Right. He's definitely on a downward trend. Biden was also heading into his. But I just wonder how pronounced it's going to be because like the Biden fall off was pretty closely contained until the debate. You know, it was like he would, he would say weird shit. He would like get lost on stage sometimes. I think we knew. I mean, they knew.

We knew. But we knew. We were like, for a mile. Well, we were paying attention. All to say, Trump is like not, he's not going to have people around him who can contain him or tell him shit. Like truly nobody can tell this guy shit at this point.

And it'll be, it'll be interesting to see if he just starts wandering Mar-a-Lago with like a golf shirt, hair pushed back underpants. And that's like a preschooler dressing themselves for school. Yeah. Does anyone know where Laura Loomer is? Second question. That's where he's just walking out of a, from a meeting. Oh my god During my my illness I had the most intense dream about Laura Loomer where that's how you know, you were on death Yeah, that's how I knew I was fucked up off these. I don't know what the fuck was going on I I remember going I was like walking to this house and I heard someone crying I open the door and Laura Loomer was laying down like, you know, And she was surrounded, this is how vivid it was,

by these little baby black widow spiders. They had basically cocooned her around. And I was like, yo, what the? As if she'd been laying there for years. You know what I mean? The spider's like, fuck it, we live around you now. And then I was like, excuse me, miss lady. And it was Laura Loomer.

I was like, oh shit. And she was like, nevermind, you can stay here. She was like, oh my, she's like, what's going on? I'm like, excuse me, miss lady. And it was Laura Loomer, I was like, oh shit. And she was like, nevermind, you can stay here. She was like, oh my, she's like, what's going on? I'm like, I don't know, man. Nothing's going on, go back to sleep. I remember I told her, I'm like, maybe you should just like not be so hateful and shit. That might just help you out.

That's my one piece of advice. And she said, this is how Vivi was, she goes, that is such a good point, see? It's the brown people that aren't virgins that have good things to say. And I was like, yo, what the fuck is happening? And I slammed the fucking door on her and I kept it moving. Wow. And I remember you are more that geist than me, man.

I do not dream about these people. I don't know why it was. I was. But it was just so weird. I was like, what the fuck? I'm like, no, no, I'm like, go chill with your fucking black widow spiders. And then I got mad at myself for even talking to Laura Loomer in the dream I like that she was gassing you up a little bit like this guy fucks. It's a weird take I know but but it still had to be like this backhanded like racist

Racism, but also being like see I can tell you fuck. That's why I want you part of my team Alright, let's talk Matt gates real team. Anyway, sorry. All right. Let's talk Matt Gaetz real quick. So the last few months, it sounded like the House Ethics Committee was not going to release the Matt Gaetz report, the one that got him basically shit canned from being attorney general, just based on party line votes and everybody cocooning around

being like, we got to protect. We heard you Taylor green. She was like, Oh, if you want him all out, all of us. Yeah. And you're like, what? Yes. Do it. That one of the strangest flexes where she's like, Republicans, my fellow

Republicans, if you out him, I'm going to tell everyone what awful perverted shit you all do. Is this thing on? Wait, is this thing on? Am I talking into a microphone? Oh, shit. Yeah. But anyways, it now seems like the report will be released before Congress goes on their

holiday break after they voted in secret earlier this month. Yeah. So CNN or I think CNN maybe did the first reporting that like, hey, they just they did a secret vote and it's dropping And I think the surprising thing here is like you're saying Jack like based on party line votes They were blocking this shit. But now sounds like a few Republicans are like man. Fuck it, bro let this dickhead get his and Have switched sided with the Democrats and they had the votes to release it Gates's response to the news is holy shit.

Very normal. I'd say a normal, very normal behavior, very normal behavior. So this is just based on him hearing that the ethics report is going to be announced. He said the Biden guard. This is from his Twitter, because now they let you post like seven thousand words. He basically said, I was charged with nothing fully exonerated. First of all, you weren't charged with anything because they were investigating you. That doesn't mean you were exonerated.

So let's, let's put a pin in that. Exonerated. It's just not even a lie. There was nothing. I mean, yet I get, I mean, I don't know. That's like Schrodinger's ethics report, basically. Yeah. Not even a campaign finance violation.

And the people investigating me hated me. They were always against me. I like the big denial and then picking a very specific thing and being like, I didn't even do that thing. Yeah. Except I wasn't being investigated for. Then the very, quote, witnesses DOJ deemed not credible were assembled by House Ethics to repeat their claims

absent any cross examination or challenge from me or my attorneys. I've had no chance to ever confront any accusers. I've never been charged. I've never been sued. Instead, House Ethics will reportedly post a report online that I have no opportunity to debate or rebut as a former member of the body in my single. This is where it gets wild. In my single day. This is where the background changes. Like, so that part was like, you know, like very serious

music. And then this part of like kind of changes to like a fun party vibe. Right. Exactly. Now you can kind of hear like something in the background. Alright, so first up, in my single days, I often set funds to women I dated, even some I never dated. But who asked? I dated several of these women for years. I never had sexual contact with someone under 18. Any claim that I have would be destroyed in court, which is why no such claim has ever been made in court My 30s were an era of working very hard and playing hard too It's embarrassing though not criminal I'm just gonna end that there

It's embarrassing though not criminal that I probably partied womanized drank and smoked more than I should have earlier in life I have I live a different life now and then the last, but at least I didn't vote for CR is that fuck over the country. That's it. The end CRS is like something continuing, continuing resolution. Oh, is a CR that's like basically they're voting for it to avert the government that he's just talking about a stupid thing to avert a government he's basically saying like, Oh, at least I didn't vote to

a verdict government shutdown is what he basically saying like, oh, at least I didn't vote to avert a government shutdown is what he's saying because it's like the hyper maga take on what Speaker Johnson is trying to do to avoid a shutdown. Oh, wow. He's just flexing his like, weird way to hyper maga cred at the end, which is so weird. Again, I like he said, Oh, sorry, I partied like a fucking child sex trafficker. I said like one. Okay. That doesn't mean I am one. And then at the end, it's really telling when you end it for like, at least I didn't vote

for like, dude, when you say at least I blah, blah, blah, as a rebuttal to someone's accusations, that's your and then you pivot to what about ism. Anyone who has ever had children knows this move of at least, at least I didn't steal the fucking cookie. And it's like, oh, well, that's not what we were talking about. So you just admit it to the thing that you were doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That we were talking about. He's I'm not crying.

At least I didn't pee my pants like him. And you're like, wait, so you are crying. But he peed his pants. Yeah, it's it's normal. He's Matt Gates is so unwell. Like, truly, seriously. First of all, I just have to say who goes to their cosmetic surgeon's office and is like, you know what give me the Charlie Kirk

I need that like Big head small face energy. I don't it's so strange to me that I'm like you're you're it's he keeps doing it But you know more serious take my face off And then put it back on but also make my make my eyebrows look like the medieval McDonald's arches. Like, mix my eyebrows with Jack Nicholson's and the McDonald's arches. I'm like, ehh. It's just like you have poor judgment in every area of your life. Who you party with, your plastic surgeon, the fact that you're like in Congress.

Well, he's not anymore, which is kind of amazing. It's a small miracle, right? He's not in Congress right now. But like, yeah, the pivot at the end, I don't know. It kind of reminded me of the thing that Jay-Z wrote the other day. Yeah, for sure. Not one red cent. It's like, OK, who are you? Oh, fuck. Yeah. Red cent.

What are you about to call the Pinkertons on somebody? Uncle Scrooge. Break a railroad strike or something? They won't get one red cent out of me. That was literally the first thing I thought was like, oh my God, this is like, Jay-Z could have written this thing. But he's like, I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't have that on my bingo card. Jay-Z ghost writing for Matt Gaetz.

But yeah, I think for a lot of people, you know, like that anyone's like, it might be a big nothing burger. Let's remind ourselves of what would even be in said report. So again, according to the committee, the report contains its findings regarding allegations that Gates had, quote, engaged in sexual misconduct and or illicit drug use, shared inappropriate images or videos on the house floor, misused state identification records, converted campaign funds to personal use, and or accepted a bribe, improper gratuity,

or impermissible gift, again, all in violation of House rules. So you think he resigns suddenly out of nowhere if that report says, we couldn't find anything that remotely looks like the allegations? The report exonerated him. So that's why he resigned Yeah Clearly Entire administration made up of sexual predators was like a little rich little spicy for our blood Yeah, dip on his chip probably You should have put in the Trump like it was a perfect report and it doesn't

need, and it just needs to go away. Like I did nothing wrong. It was a perfect phone call. Yeah, but he has no, he has no like political capital to do that. So it just has to be like, well, at least I didn't fucking fuck over the country. What? It's just like not related guy. Go do your reservoir dogs cosplay for your fucking marketing shoot for your new

Newsmax show. He'll be fine because you all get to fail upward into heaven. Failing upward to heaven. Amen. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about bad Christmas songs. We'll be right back. Welcome to Decisions Decisions, the podcast where boundaries are pushed and conversations get candid. Join your favorite hosts, me, Weezy WTF, and me, Mandi B, as we dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love. That's right.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. And we're back. We're back. And so let's talk about JM's story here, real quick. And we're back. And so let's talk about J.M.'s story here real quick. J.M. we're not done first of all. J.M. J.M.'s the best. J.M. is so good.

We love this because your personality has shown amazingly in this piece. And it brings up it now it's become a meta story because I think- And this is also jam writing for the zeitgeist. The zeitgeist generally does not like this song. It was just a piece of received wisdom. As I was growing up, that well, the worst Christmas song is the Paul McCartney one and the really shitty,

Do They Know It's Christmas? Yeah. Yeah. is the Paul McCartney one and the really shitty, Do They Know It's Christmas? Yeah. Yeah. So, but this one, I was just like, yeah, it's like weird. It doesn't really feel like Christmas, you know? It's like got like synths and stuff. And then as an adult man,

I met somebody who opened my mind. Miles Gray was like, actually, I kind of fuck with the synths. My name. And I was like, oh yeah, like, I don't need. My name. And I was like, oh, yeah, like what? I don't need to hate this song. I'm going to hear it all the time. Like, why not just appreciate that there is a Christmas song that has like synths

that are clearly being played by people who just found out about synths and are just like, whoa, this is fucking crazy. Well, it's weird. And it makes. Yeah. That's my journey with this song. Jam has had a different journey. The hook of the story is that in 2021, there was a poll that found that Americans really,

their least favorite Christmas songs are Santa Baby, and I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus. Basically any song about wanting to fuck Santa. With the wrong take. Yeah. Everyone's horny for Santa. We all know that. Yeah. Everyone's horny for Santa. It is like, I think those have the same issue as the McCartney song.

They are a tonal shift. It's like you have these like, cheery sleigh bell things that are just about sitting by a fire. Yeah, White Christmas. Then there is these two songs that are, they sound different. Santa Baby is audibly horny. The vocals are like the voice of somebody who is desperate to fuck pretty clearly.

Then I saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus is a little, it's just like, the way it's played in the most popular one is like, I saw a mom, it's like a child watching their mom about to get blown out a little bit, you know? And like, that's, that's just like a little, I can, I can understand why people like pump the brakes on that and are like, maybe not that one. I also think those songs are fun. So really the whole Paul McCartney rant, I think is in retribution for the UK this year naming Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas is You as the holiday song they don't want to hear ever again. That is just not that's incorrect.

That's how wars start. Not the first time they've been wrong. They've been very wrong before. It just goes on the list. They don't like our domination. Oh, interesting. Jealous of our global domination, are you United Kingdom? It used to be you, we know, but now it's us.

Now it's us. We're not bitter. So then JM writes, which is especially galling considering that one of their countrymen recorded the actual worst Christmas song. I want you guys to know that JM never writes and never puts opinion in his pieces. It's always just like news joke, news joke. Right, right, right. But he couldn't hold himself back this time. Let him cook. Go M. Cooke. Paul McCartney's wonderful Christmas time

is just a goddamn nightmare of a recording. Yeah. Consistently ranking as one of people's least favorite Christmas songs, if not the very worst. And then he quotes an article by Asquire that says, "'This is the Beatles of terrible Christmas songs. "'It's a love song between a middle-aged man "'and the new Casio keyboard he got in his stocking.'" That's scathing. That is kind of scathing. I don't, I don't know. We went and watched the video and the video at first seems, seems like it was made by people who hadn't heard the song.

Cause like for a lot of it, like the first maybe 40% of it, it looks like it was made by people who hadn't heard the song. And then the video, the video, the video, for a lot of it, like the, the first maybe 40% of it, it's looks like they're doing a pub song. There's people with like up-ranked bases and like acoustic guitars and like, uh, they're all just like, it's, it sounds like they think this song is going to sound like a party, you know? And, uh, it does not.

It sounds. Sounds weird. It sounds like you're, it's being recorded in the Phantom zone, like from Superman, you know, like it's just, it feels like it's being recorded in the void of space on a moon made of cocaine. Absolutely. Absolutely. I, again, I think everyone brings

their own thing into why it irks them. I and I grew up always hearing people be like, dude, this is the worst fucking song. It's the worst fucking song. But as a kid, like whenever, I don't know, I always thought it was fine. Like I was like, yeah, whatever. I like the sense of especially when it goes, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock kind of get like a little used to it, like and start like fucking with it. Like you're hearing the synthesizer be invented on this song.

Jam also says, how is it possible that a literal Beatle penned the crappiest Christmas song of all time? I will say there are plenty of songs in their catalog that are essentially children's songs. I think they're mostly written by Paul McCartney. And they're essentially like, like, oh blah D, oh blah da is like a pretty bad, like objectively, like annoying song, like to, like, I think it's been ranked on lists like that a lot.

Yeah. I'm fine not hearing it. Like their music, a lot of his McCartney songs, like when, you know, my kids were in the, I just like Christmas or I just like children's songs phase of their development. Like when they're like three, the like Paul McCartney songs fit right in there. Like a lot of them, at least. Every kid's already got them. I don't know if that's written by that. That might be Ringo, but yeah, like they have like some kids boppy songs.

So like that, I wouldn't say that it would be weird for them to have like a weird Christmas song that is kind of a lot of people think is annoying. What's interesting about this song is people don't like it. Everyone hates it for their own reasons. I know people who don't like it because they deify Paul McCartney and they're like, this is so beneath Paul McCartney. Like I don't even like to acknowledge that this is a fucking track he made because it's so fucking bad.

Other people like it's annoying. It sounds stupid. We were listening to before. And I remember when Tory came on the Zoom call, I was like, let me just do a vibe check. I'm a play the song and then just ask Tory, you know, once you realize what's going on, go, Tory, what do you think of the song? And you said, oh, and I say, save it. We're the recording. Tori, what tell me, tell me about your experience with this song.

Where are you at with Paul McCartney's wonderful Christmas time? You know, it's not that I hate it. It's just that I worked at the Gap for several years and they had their little Christmas music track that they would play from like Black Friday through New Year's Eve. I worked in retail. I know about that. Yeah. It's like two and a half hours long. And I'm out there working like eight, nine hours shifts. Right.

Multiple times a week. And it was just like, got every single song on that track. I just don't like and they were all like it kind of sucked because they were all like secular songs. So like I feel like now all I have left is like the the like religious Christmas. Yeah, like Heart to Herald angels thing. Which are all very problematic and like anti-semitic. So I'm not really like they're like, hey, we're stealing. Because of frequency, you're like, because of frequency. Yeah, exactly. I'm just like, OK, I don't love it.

This one has a frequency issue in that it's simply having a wonderful Christmas time 17 times. Seventeen fucking times. Which is, but that's not how kids talk either, which I think is funny because it does have kind of like a kid song feel to it. But then kids never say, I'm simply having a wonderful Christmas time. Like simply having. It has a, it's a small world vibes. Like that's what Justin was saying. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm asking producer Justin like why it's annoying to him. And he goes, it makes me think of I'm out shop doing Christmas shopping and it's always playing and I'm always just hearing the chorus and it's just like it's like simply having it's it's grading the chorus was grading to him. And I get that because I physically have to move like a fucked up robot when I sing it because that's it feels like. I can't just still have my neck still be like, simply, I got to be like simply. Yeah. Having it's got that energy. Turn into an animatronic child.

Yeah. Simply having wonderful Chris. Well, so somebody by the name of Ryan George, the Ryan George on Twitter suggests that Paul McCartney's Wonderful Christmas Time is about friends practicing witchcraft, but then someone walks in and they have to suddenly play it cool. That's right. When you look at the lyrics, the moon is right. Bam, bam, bam.

The spirit's up. Bam, bam. We're here tonight. Bam, bam. And that's enough. Bam, bam. Sam, please have it. Wonderful. up. We're here tonight. And that's enough. Simply having wonderful. Like that.

Yeah. You're like light as a feather, stiff as a board. Light as a feather, stiff as a board. Simply having. The pizza rolls are ready. Simply having. Yeah. No, we're not. We're not trying to conjure man on. Yeah. The vibe definitely shifts and it like feels insistent in a way that even whoever is performing the song like doesn't really believe simply

like if I just say this enough, it'll all be over. And then the video like so at first it's like for us a different song, but then it starts messing around with like what I guess the, the visual, you know, industrial light magic equivalent of like, you know, the synth it's like very early shitty special effects where like white things start flying through the air. Yeah. It's pretty wild. It's pretty, it gets pretty cokey at a certain point.

Oh yeah. That's what, that's what, I think that's the other thing I appreciate is like this feels like Paul McCartney said, I don't give a fuck about any of y'all say y'all don't like it. The wings is over. Fuck y'all. Because this shit came out after the last Wings album. And also Paul McCartney is like the only person listed as personnel on this track.

So he did it all. Vocals, keyboards, synthesizers, guitars, bass, drums, percussion and jingle bells, all Paul McCartney. So it feels like he's like, you guys don't believe in me. Watch this shit. And then you get this track. It sounds like he makes around at least $400,000 a year. From the song?

From the song. Yeah. Yeah. A year. For sure. But then, like, yeah, the video is just... Yeah, the video feels like it's for... It looks like you're watching people kind of like... Not a rager, but like having a pretty intense time at a Christmas party. Yeah. It seems like it was shot over the course of- It's like wrong energy. Two nights where nobody slept in between the two,

and everybody was just drinking and doing cocaine the whole time. Yeah. It's fun to watch. They're weird. It is fun to look back on people's like, oh, you were tripping and this is what you came up with. Okay, but then the energy doesn't match the song, which feels to me pretty fucking chill. Yeah. It's just like, oh, yeah, we're just like bopping along, right? Like animatronic children.

And then you guys are like. There's a lot. There's a lot of blow. Like, you probably spent at least as much on cocaine as you did on the video production. Yeah. And it shows. Yeah, 100%. Is there a song?

Because see, my thing with music though, too, generally, like, I don't really, I don't get, I get angry when people do like the 50 greatest hip hop albums of all time. Then I lose my mind and I don't know what's objective anymore. And they put this song on there. Number one. Number one. Number one. Number two this song on there. Number one. Number one with the bullet. Number two, Equamini.

Number one. But like, so when people talk about hating the song, it never really bothered me because I'm like, yeah, whatever. I don't fucking, I don't fuck with a lot of music because it just doesn't reach me in a certain way. But then I do try and think, is there a song I really don't like when it comes to Christmas? I don't know.

Do you actually do any of you have a song that you absolutely fucking hate hearing during Christmas time? Like you will be like, dude, please turn this shit off, whether it's through sheer repetition that has caused you to slowly go through like a torture chamber sort of experience or because just artistically you cannot abide. I'm good at tuning stuff out, I'll say. I don't know. It's like I've built, yeah, just again. As a woman of color, I've learned how to tune things out for my own. You just, I don't have hearing aids, but I still just like turn it down to zero and just like keep going about my business. Right. But like there is there is one song and I have not been able to find it, but there is one Christmas song that I do actually hate. I can't I've looked for it with the lyrics.

I can remember nothing comes up. I've looked at probably a couple dozen worst Christmas songs lists. Can't find it. So I'm like, maybe I just made that shit up. But it was on the Gap Christmas track. Yeah. And it's the one Christmas song I hate. I've never heard it anywhere but there. I can't find it on the internet. So like, how did you go sing it? Now I know like, it's been so long at this point. I don't even know what the lyrics are. Wow. It's just like this random poppy. Let me think about it. Jack, why don't you answer the question?

I'll see if I can recall enough of the song. Like the band aid, do they know it's Christmas is like just all time shitty. The song's not good. The lyrical content is like offensive. Yeah. That's kind of, I think that's the go-to and it does just thoroughly suck in all the different ways that a song can suck. I don't think any cool person could come to me and be like,

actually, when you listen to the chord progression, I'd be like, okay, I'll give it another shot. I think that song fucking sucks. We have a holiday White Elephant gift exchange, and I was asking people for their favorite Christmas songs, so I could put together a playlist. One of the producers suggested this Kinks song, Father Christmas. Father Christmas, give us some money.

Don't mess around with those silly little. I added it to my own Christmas list because this person has pretty good taste in music. And I just had it on there for a year and I was like, I fucking hate this song. I really hate everything about this song. It's like the lyrics are like, when I was small I believed in Santa Claus,

though I knew it was my dad. It's like, hey, what the fuck? Yeah. I don't know. Chill out. I think you're smoking outside of a bar, telling you that. Yeah. It's just like, they're not being like,

I guess they're trying to be punk rock, but it feels like spoiled shitty kids. Maybe it's satire, but it's just, I don't know, not a huge fan of that one. I'd say that's the one that. Because they're being too flippant about the holiday? Just like it's, first of all, you're ruining the Santa Claus lie that I tell my kids for me.

I'm the one who tells them. The first verse your kids are like, dad? Yeah, I'm a small, yeah. And and then I don't know I just like it just the song itself kind of sucks for me I'm not I'm not a fan. I know it's like a lot of I like the kinks I've liked a lot of their songs that one doesn't really don't worry Yeah, definitely have people hopefully are level-headed enough to know that music is a very subjective thing Tori Do you did you figure out what the melody was? to know that music is a very subjective thing. Tori, did you figure out what the melody was?

Nope. I'm getting little pieces of it. It's coming back. It's rebuilding very slowly. Yeah. Sorry to take you back there. No, it's fine. Excuse me, miss. Do you guys do gift wrapping? Do you do gift wrapping? I'm going to DM you when I remember it, and it's just going to be me humming a tune off key.

My favorite challenge. My favorite challenge. I'm going to, yeah, I will. I'm going to do it. I think I do have one song actually this year that I have skipped multiple times because I'll play a playlist for the guys child that's like kid stuff for whatever reason. Mary did you know by the pentaton? Mary did you know? Yeah. Yeah. Baby boy. That song sucks. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. I just can't handle that song. It's so earnest and churchy. It's so earnest and like churchy. And you feel like they're about to sit you down

and tell you why Santa Claus is like not, should not be part of your Christmas celebration. My back, the baggage I bring to listen, cause it's all about where you're coming from, is I was subjected to that song for Many years going to like a Lutheran. Yeah through eighth grade and I was dude I hate this one like I'd rather do a Hark the Herald angels sing than fucking Mary did you cuz it felt like so weird felt like we were singing like a ballad to me and I'm like, yeah

That is a great pick. That is the worst Christmas song. That's that's my new answer. There was a blue sky discourse about this the other day where people were like, did you know? Because people were like, it's bad, but it's not that bad. But then there was like this pushback of like you like, you don't get to decide whether or not it's like anti-feminist because you're a man. Because the discourse on Twitter for several years was like, this is really condescending.

Obviously, Mary fucking knew. What are you talking about? Obviously. Obviously. God whispered to her. She knew. There was backlash to the backlash. It's been a journey for Mary, did you know, for sure, but I don't I don't love it

It's it's just no we got it there. So yeah, there's so many so many Bible songs I'll ride with I'd like they're stuck in my brain or whatever, but Mary did you know when I hear it? I'm like this isn't the vibe for me right now I need I need some corny not like I don't, it feels like suddenly like my teacher was like, everyone's time to sing our, like our Bible song now. Mary, did you know sucks so bad? I'm like getting angry. Just like reading. You. Yeah. It just feels like a tone again, a tonal shift. Like in the same way that I think the thing that people object to about like Santa Baby, the Paul McCartney one and this one is that it's like a tonal shift instead of like,

I feel like the person who's singing the Christmas music should always sound like happy and a little bit drunk. And like this one just sounds like they are at church. Yeah, it feels like it. Trying to get you to like feel bad about the fact that you didn't go to church enough this year. It's the song equivalent of having an intervention suddenly with your family.

And they're like, why aren't you going to church anymore? And I'm like, what? It's so fucking problematic when you think about it from the angle of like, well, Mary couldn't really consent because like, God, the father is a deity and she's a child so then it's like oh you start thinking about it from that perspective it was like yuck I don't know but here's the thing she was into it she was into it oh my god yeah can you imagine like if you bring that thing up, they're like, actually, Mary was asking Jesus or God to put a baby in her if you listen close.

But yeah, the lyrics are very like, okay, I know this guy, this sky man knocked you up, but did you know that your baby boy would save our sons and daughters? Okay. So it's fair. And would walk on water. Yeah. Yeah. Daughter and warder do rhyme. They. And would walk on water. Yeah. Daughter and the worder do rhyme. So they do have a son that one. Hey, walk on water, Mary did.

Save our sons and daughters. Yeah, Mary did you know? Yeah. Mary, did you know? Did you know? Your son's going to walk on water? Yeah. Hey, that's pretty cool, Mary.

Yeah. I just got to say, it's kind of cool. Hey, come on down, Galilee. Check it out. Oh, shit. All right, I think we, I'm really happy with that segment because I do think we landed on the worst Christmas song.

Yeah. Well done. And again, it's all subjective. Zeitgang, I would love to hear. I'm not, I'm not. That's fine. All right, that's the law. But also Zeitgang, I would love to hear. I know I always say,

Zyking, let me know. But if you do tell me a song that you hate, you please add the specific context and baggage that you brought to the song that makes you hate it. Because we don't just hate stuff for nothing. Because we have one more recording tomorrow. That's just going to be a long trends episode. Hit us up and we'll talk it out tomorrow. Otherwise, let us know we will not want to talk about it after the new year

So hit us though. Oh actually hit us up today Yeah, right now right now do not you're driving I don't care now that's not true Yeah, pull over now pull over pull over and do it though. All right. Put your hazards on. Tori, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, you can check out my podcast, White Homework,

having propaganda on this week. So if anybody wants to pop over and listen, we're talking about building community, caring for the environment, making better choices, all those important things. So if anybody wants to pop over and listen, we're talking about building community, caring for the environment, making better choices, all those important things. And he's just, yeah, keeping me really sane right now because I appreciate how calm and reasonable he is in the face of Trump and authoritarianism and fascism. So yeah, White Homework, anywhere you get your podcasts, you can check that out.

I'm also on blue sky At Tory glass dot B sky dot social. I feel like I should change that but that's what it is for now and You can find me on Instagram at white homework. All right, and is there work of media that you've been enjoying? So Elon Musk's mother I'm sure you saw was on Fox talking about how people need to make more babies and whatever. And instead of going out for pizza and a movie, they need to procreate more because like, you know, when she even for a piece, not even that it was like, just have a baby. I don't care if you can't afford to fucking do anything anymore. Like go to a movie, fuck and make a baby so we have more Smurfs to run the machine.

Yeah. And this is like really Musk's mother is a character that I have to pay attention to. Oh yeah. She's been wiling for a minute. Yeah. Yeah, she has. She has anyway, but I was, I was really appreciating what everybody, I was really appreciating what everybody was saying and trolling her.

My particular troll was you guys stop what you're doing. The ghost of apartheid past has an opinion. So I was like, I can't stand her. But yeah, he needs a little worker bee. So please, if you're not busy, go procreate. If you're not busy, tis the season. It is. This is when most people get pregnant in the year. I think because she's talking directly to like like she's looking at the polling as to why younger people aren't having kids. Like, there's no money to support a life barely. She's like, you don't need. Oh my God.

I lived in an apartment once. Yeah, I lived in an apartment. Sure. It was a penthouse off Fifth Avenue or whatever. And I owned the building. She's like, there was a view of a garage. It was so ugly. And I'm like, that's okay. Like, it doesn't matter that my father-in-law owned half an emerald mine. We were poor.

We were slumming it. Struggling. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, you can find me at miles of gray, wherever there's at symbols. Blue sky included, especially blue sky. And also find Jack and I on the basketball podcast. Miles and Jack, I'm at Boos.

He's finding me on for 20 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Shout out to K1's. Let's see. Do I have a piece of media? No, I've just I do. Watch Surviving Christmas. Please watch. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So fucking bad and bizarre because I feel like most if you saw it, fine.

But the James Gandolfini, Ben Affleck, Catherine O'Hara Christmas comedy with Christina Applegate. It's it's so confusing. But again, worth watching because you can't believe how they've got these actors together and it makes zero sense. Anyway, that's my work of media that I am suggesting until the end. That's time. Mm-hmm.

Let's see. I've been enjoying all the people screen capping there. Darth Penis asked what are posts that aren't load bearing anywhere, but your personal lexicon like the ones that weren't really popular, but are so enshrined in your mind that you assume they got hundreds of thousands of likes. I've just been enjoying the responses to that. What one of them was fry underscore underscore fry retweeted a tweet from at gloom father. Who tweeted, white people will hear a

Harold angel sing and say some shit like Hark. And then I really liked this from please be nice on blue sky. Who tweeted inspecting each cost co rotisserie chicken, like a show dog. I do that. Yeah. Just lifting. Just part. Yeah, lifting, looking, giving it a little head tilt.

Uh, you can find me on bluesky at Jack OB and the number one. Uh, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zyke Ge. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We're also on YouTube, Daily Zeitgeist Pod.

And we also do the footnotes in the show description, where we link off to the information we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song we think you might enjoy. Miles, is well as a song we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, there's an LA trio called Gabriel's that I've been speaking of angels. I mean, have a really dope album that came out, I think maybe the end of last year,

I want to say, or maybe the summer of last year. But what's cool about it is that it's produced by Soundwave, who is one of the main producers Kendrick Lamar works with. And it's super dope. Like a lot of Kendrick's really memorable tracks are Soundwave produced songs. So got into this more like kind of jazzy, like gospel like vocal, like singers, which is really dope. This track is called Blame and and it's really fucking dope.

By Gabriel's. So it's Blame by Gabriel's. Anyway, for those of you that, if you even like, you know, Kendrick Lamar and the stuff that he's made, it's interesting to see Soundwave producing stuff like this, although Soundwave has produced stuff for, like, Beyonce and stuff like that in the past, but this is a really interesting album, and I think it's just a cool, cool track. So this is Blame by Gabriel's. And maybe you've heard it because it's a pretty big track, but I heard it recently and I'm

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