The Daily Zeitgeist - Gambling Legal, Media Cool With Israel Murdering People 5.14.18

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In episode 147, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Kaseem Bentley to discuss the Supreme Court's decision to favor sports betting, the US opening an embassy in Jerusalem, main stream media's coverage of the Palestine / Israel protests, an interesting story involving Qatar, Ice Cube, and Steve Bannon, a NY Times opinion piece on liberals being dumb, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeartTrue Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from? Like what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? to iHeart True Crime Plus, only on Apple Podcasts. Seeing that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. Listen to Hungry for History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 31, Episode 1 of Daily Zeitgeist. For May 14th, 2018, my name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I'm Jack O'Brien. I opened up my eyes. I'm Jack O'Brien. That is courtesy of Sean Constantine from Ace of Base, who is secretly a Nazi band.

Wait, what? By the way. Are you just saying that because they're blonde? No. Their name is, so first of all, one of their three members used to be in a Nazi metal band. Oh, shit. The Dude? Yeah, The Dude.

Their name is probably a reference to a submarine base from World War II called the Base of Aces. That was a Nazi submarine band. When you look at translations of some of their lyrics, it's just a happy nation living in a happy nation where people understand and dream of the perfect man. So, yeah. And then there's just all sorts of weird shit. They have that one song that was actually popular

that was like, All That She Wants Is Another Baby that was basically about a welfare queen. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Yeah. She leads a lonely life. Anyways. I remember that.

She's a hunter, you're a bird. Which welfare queens, in case people don't realize, are just a conservative, like, right-wing lunatic myth for the most part. They wrote a pop song about it.

Tight. Well, hey. I feel bad I have all this merch on. I'm thrilled to be joined as, yeah, all your Ace of Base gear. I'm thrilled to be joined As all your ace of bass gear I'm thrilled to be joined as always

By my co-host Mr. Miles Gray Miles you gotta go and make things so complicated Oh shit Avril Lavigne reference Wow Maybe equally problematic I don't know

But yes that was from A.K.A. Goddess Chapman Rice Just kicking it off right this week Because it's been a very stressful week. I'm just going to have to let this out on the podcast. Moving in, or not moving in, my girlfriend and I, Her Majesty, we're moving.

It's a very stressful process. I am literally physically and emotionally exhausted. I mean, you have not lived until you've almost broken up six times at an Ikea in one week. You know what? I'm on the other side, and I'm alive. But bear with me, ZyGang,

if I seem low energy today. A little distracted. Yeah. Shit is fucking stressful. Getting calls in the middle of the recording. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Furniture delivery people.

It's all good. We are thrilled to be joined by the hilarious stand-up comedian Kasim Bentley. Hey. What's up, man?

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for coming back. Thank you to Anna for answering my email. You know what I mean? I'm happy to be back here. Because the first time, it's a little bit of pressure. No, no, because this is a real podcast.

As opposed to the times you're just speaking into a broomstick in a closet. If you want to talk about when comedians make their own makeshift network, it's like, yeah, we're just going to go into the kitchen, studio,

and just don't mind my roommate because I walked by scratching, you know what I mean? It's on the, we're coming up right now, you know what I mean?

Egg crates on the wall. It's on the, no, this is amazing, bro. And then you have to, then you read the packet and you test your knowledge and it's, man, it's great. Thank you. I love all three of y'all. We're thrilled to Then you read the packet And you, you know Test your knowledge And it's, man

It's great You know, I love all three of y'all We're thrilled to have you here, man Thank you And your first episode, by the way Was a fan favorite So no pressure Whoa

I didn't All right I knew it was good Because my mom listened to it Yeah, there you go Yeah, my mom was like Deep discussion about Boston Market, too I feel like we were talking about

Some Boston Market shit on that episode Kasim, what is something From your search history that is revealing about who you are my search history yes um pretty much that i wore braces like a year too long that's why my teeth are breaking out yeah because i wore them too long i just didn't have the money and i was so dumb i was walking around just with this like the wire on the top was damn near gone and then the bottom ones were there. So I look like and I was just holding on them because in the

hood when you get braces like that's better than a grill. You know what I mean? It's like. That's a different kind of flex. It's a reverse, double reverse forward flex. You know what I mean? Like it's metal but you're getting your shit in order right it's like it's like rims for your mouth you know it's like it's a mind we're breaking up so they

were spinning you know i mean it's pretty well but here's another thing people don't i guess realize people don't really know about me because some people yo i saw somebody get murdered what oh dude i just talked wait what oh i worked in? Oh, I worked in social services. Okay, go on. I worked in social services a long time, right? And I was working this one gig not too long ago. I just did this temp gig, right? And I was down there in Skid Row, right? I never, you know, before that, I'm from San Francisco where the equivalent of Skid Row is the Tinted Loin, right? And people talk about it.

Everyone knows that Dave Chappelle made a bit about it. And everyone thinks it's like crazy, right? And it's just goes seven by seven. So it's only four blocks. It's some madness, right? But if you're from West Bumblefuck or Wyoming or whatever, or the Valley, right? Oh, fuck.

I'm from the Valley, man. Wait, are you? Yes! I thought you were from Osaka or something like that. No, my family's from Niigata in Japan, but I'm of the Valley, the 818 to San Fernando. Miles does seem too cool to be from the valley, but yeah. You do seem very... That's why I'm cool, you know what I mean?

Right. The LA shit didn't get to me in the valley, so I grew up somewhat normal, adjacent to the bullshit. I chose the parts that I like. I really like him. I like you too, man. Thanks, man, but I understand. Miles is the best.

It's like, he could have went a whole other direction. Yeah. He could have been the podcast Jesse Williams. You know what I mean? No, no. No information gets thirst trapping. You know what I mean? But then Hayes lies out.

But he's just a smart dude. You got to run for some kind of public office. I will eventually. Or open a community center. We'll turn this into something. So anyway, back to the story. Back to the murder, right? Right.

All right. I'm back out here in the street. I'm turning this into something real. So back to the story. Back to the murder, right? Right. All right. I'm back. I'm turning this into some real. So back to this murder. So, okay. Everyone that knows me knows I've worked in social services most of my life, right? Usually with youth. Then I transitioned to adults and I was working. I transitioned to adults probably about six years ago, maybe.

And each job has gotten progressively worse, right? So I've seen someone die every year. A client, you walk in, dead on the ground. Or you can see somebody. But I know it's, but it's, you know what, when you, but then I grew up around violence. So like, I'm not used, I'm just like, oh, it's a Thursday. Ga, ga, ga, ga, ga, ga. There's a dance, you know what I mean?

And yo, but this one was a trip because I'm going to work. I'm walking through downtown. You know, I'm losing weight. So I got to do the walking, right? So I get off a half hour early, and I got my little bag. It's like that active social worker, you know what I mean? Running around. It's like, where do I lose khakis?

Everyone gets this. They're like, hey, but that brother really doing it, right? And then I'm going downtown. And when I'm downtown, in LA, I see celebs but weird celebs. Like four times since I've been here since last year I've seen Brian Pumper four times the porn star who looks like Lloyd Banks

oh man I rock with you everybody know Brian Pumper look like Lloyd Banks I mean come on I sit on stage and they looked at me like I said, like I started talking German. And I was like, this is half black people. I was just like, how do you guys know who Brian Pumper is?

Brian Pumper, every time I've seen him, he's either going in the wrong direction and he finds his way back. Or he looks confused or he looks like he's on set. You know what I mean? And he's just like, every time I see him he dresses you know like black guys they get to a certain point it'll be like late 30s early 40s they get trapped

in their age or their generation or they try to make what's cool not cool like he like black guys he's still dressing

like it's 2003 yeah but he's wearing like weird shoes you get from like athletic shoes you get from Ross like he's like he's trying to make

man these these underarmors are lit you know what I mean man you gotta know all these weird like nameless Adidas they just look like socks and everything it's like he's trying to make man these these underarmors are lit you know man you got all these weird like nameless Adidas that just look like

socks and everything it's like it's like a downgraded Kanye like eight times like man look at these they got no laces you know

brother that's cause you were wearing just socks those shits are not even shoes basically like compression socks with Kanye soles

you know what I mean and cause so he was there and he's wearing the big brother watch where brothers get a watch and it got too many links and he's just

dangling he was wearing an aqua polo but it was USA it was US polo polo association and he was just looking in the sky

like he was looking to the porno guys like somebody help me you know what I mean this digital porn is ruining my career right so I see him

and then I was walking down the street, and in Skid Row, you can see... First of all, the rats in Skid Row, too much for me. They've got sneakers on, you know what I mean? They're coming out of an Uber pool, you know what I mean? One's trying to sell me dope. It's like really weird stuff.

And the Chinese people, I love them to death because they give no fucks about you. They get boxing you out like Rodman, you know what I mean? Catching, you know, boards. But down there, I was down there walking through and I just seen a dude whacking off on a couch with three fingers. You know, just casually, like with his pinky out, just like a fancy. Fancy drink off. Hello.

And so I'm walking and I'm sitting there like, okay, I'm trying to get this writing job. I'm trying to do this. I got a new show. I'm trying to do this pilot. Figuring out my whole shit. So there's this park near my job. Go to this park. This is where all the drama happens.

You know, we've all been to these homeless parks where it's like everyone's kind of like happy and homeless. It's like a musical. You know, it's like Skid Row, the musical. I've got dirt on my face. You know what I mean? So I'm like, I'm there because I'm like this festival the day before. you know it's like skid row the music call i've got dirt on my face you know right and so like i'm there because i'm like this festival the day before but today it was like really there was nobody around but there was like this dude you know like this little d-boy talking to just like

this like this doping right but it was kind of like it was a doping was just like trying to make a deal he owned money and all that stuff so i'm sitting there and i don't know what it was i just stood there at the light. I was just like, what the fuck is going on here? And then the dude, he made this little motion with his arm. This dude walks past me. And usually these boys got these little ashy black hoodies on. So this dude had this fresh hoodie.

He didn't look like anybody. He had a sharpened, melted pen. Like pen. You ever watch those prison documents? Yeah, like prison. Yeah, you could make something out of this Tide Pod. You know it's like yo gets melted you know i mean something and he gets stabbed like 16 times and i'm like and i have a really high voice so i have to watch out when i scream and it's gonna be like what woman's screaming around here you know so i was like and so i did

this i went i guess look like a large gay black man. Cause. Right. And I was like, and then I was like, but I'd seen all this shit before, but the dude was leaking. Right. And, and, and here's a cold part.

He gets, he gets stabbed up and I'm like, damn, what the fuck? And I just keep it inside. But then the whole shit happens where like, as soon as you hit the ground, they just took all his shit.

Like he had some old Jordans on. Right. It's still pretty clean. So it was just like, all right, you know, whatever. They could go to Buffalo, right? And I sat there. God rest their dead, right? So I sit there, and he went into his pocket.

But I was just like, I guess it was like really because I get to work, and I tell my staff. And I'm working a temp job, so they treated me like a temp. I don't know if you guys ever worked temp. Like, but when you're really a temp, they could give a fuck what you do. It's like, who stole the bread? The temp. Well, whatever. You know what I mean? He's a temp they could give a fuck what you do it's like who stole the bread the temp well whatever you know i mean he's a temp right right and i just sat there and like they just did not give a fuck about me i was like yeah so someone get murdered just like a few minutes ago i was like hmm wow i guess sorry yeah sorry sorry temp life somebody's tweeting like

somebody's on my temp, somebody get murdered. Why do I care? You know what I mean? Someone's in line, man. Come on. Kasim, what's something that's overrated? God damn Halal Guys. Oh, the brick and mortar store now?

It's just carts in New York. Yeah. Yeah, you're talking about the Halal Guys brand that they brought out. The brand. Yeah. I finally got it. I listened to this Doughboys podcast. I've seen it. carts in new york yeah yeah you're talking about the law guys brand the brand yeah it's i finally got it i listened to this doughboys podcast i've seen i've seen it and i finally got it i went on i got my postmates i ordered that crap i found 30 at a show and i took it i didn't give a fuck

whose it was you know i mean just sitting there just every once in a while god will just let me like one time at a party, I found like $500. And I didn't give a damn whose it was. God's plan. Yeah, I heard somebody tweet later like, oh, did somebody find $500 at the party? And I was like, dude, you're too bad. Did somebody find $500? Yo, it was like if somebody would have hugged me like Drake, I would have started crying.

You know what I mean? So I do it. I go post things. I order it. I get it. And look, man, I don't know. This is the thing. It's like I guess that and Zancou chicken are kind of the same thing, right?

Yeah. Yeah, Zancou is kind of in a different lane for me. I guess that's my valley bias, my LA bias. Who do you think is better? Well, you know, Halal Guys was like I think the only reason I was excited is because I had in New York a handful of times. A lot of New Yorkers are like, oh, we love Halal Guys or whatever. So when it came out, I got it a couple of times. But lot of New Yorkers are like, we love Halal Guys or whatever. So when it came out,

I got it a couple of times, but I'm like, I'm going to keep it rocking with Zanku. I didn't know until the Doughboys that Halal Guys is a chain. It's a chain of Halal restaurants. Oh, you didn't know that? No, I didn't know that until Doughboys.

Yeah. You could just go home right after this. Exactly. It's like your two kids are like, love me, dad. You know what I mean? Are you teaching them Korean?

They know more Korean than I do. I'll say that. The thing with it was this white sauce. Oh, right, that everyone goes nuts over. The packet is pure fat. It's like you sliced open a titty. You know what I mean? And just like all the fat.

It's like you just cut open John Candy and this fat comes out. It's tasty, but the packet's like 40 grams of fat. Yeah. A lot of people don't, we'll see, people don't look at the, it's funny,

most people have a blind spot when it comes to sauces. You're like, how could a sauce be terrible for me? Sauces and cookies are way overrated. Cookies, you think are good,

but the cookie, like you ever look at a 7-Eleven cookie and you ever look at the, it's basically, it says, you read the ingredients and it says,

you really should not eat this and you turn it over and go are you fucking kidding me but you're here already so your life is pretty and it's 89 cents the nutrition facts

just say fuck out of here I also think there's something about rice that makes me just like from my childhood that makes me think

it's healthy and that rice like if you squeeze it just like pure fat will come out it's just like it'll come out. Yeah, grease. It'll stick together like a snowball.

One time I was working with Godfrey, and he's a guy that's pretty much, he's like 50, and he's in great shape. He's 50? All right, we don't have to drag him out of the AIDS closet right now, but good for him. Yeah, no, he keeps it real.

He's damn near 50. Okay. But he looks amazing. Hairline good. It's not all Jimmy Foxxed out. You know what I mean? Inconsistent, you mean? it's like rock with him that's a black fact jimmy's hairline looks like a nintendo you could put a nintendo 64 or an old nes controller that hairline is a bot all right

but it's correct now it's like where lebron should be going to get his hairline right take out the hgh of his body put the new carpet fibers right there. Boom, right? But back to the thing. Back to this. Hello, guys. It's okay. It's okay, yeah.

It's not a religious experience. It's just like a good place. You know how people find culture in food? You know what I mean? Like, I'm not racist. I ain't a hello guy. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And you have this white sauce, which is basically squeezing DJ Khaled on your food. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not racist. I ain't a hell of a guy. You know what I mean? Yeah. And you have this white sauce, which is basically squeezing DJ Khaled on your food. You know what I mean? Yo, here's the thing about Elson. Overrated. We've all known this. DJ Khaled. Oh, we already knew that. But people are starting to, after that whole wife thing.

Yeah, people are like, all right, fuck this guy. I've been saying this since 2011 this guy is a creep he's a dented white lexus in burbank you know it's just like the worst dude we gotta move on to tampico body with nipples and his wife is hot. Yeah, yeah. Beautiful. I like a good regular smegla.

You know what I mean? So you're saying she could do better? She could have done better. Right. Yeah. At a shelter. You know what I mean? At a shelter.

What is something that's underrated? Oh, you know what's underrated? French tip nails. French tip nails. I used to think they were whore nails, right? And I didn't say it. I'm saying what other dudes say. I'm very woke, so I don't mean it.

I would just say the problematic thing out loud to demonstrate that there are takes that are problematic. What it elicits is a horrible response. But I never liked those nails. They're just all white. It's not color. It says a certain type of woman. Before I really started looking at how much it takes to make these nails and the quality, the women that have these nails, when I meet them, yo, they're hustling.

Like women that have, I'm talking full, not the little strip, full French tip nails, French tip toenails are out there getting their money, right? And I'm not getting money. I cannot wait to do this invoice. You know what I mean? I should have walked in with a big invoice right now. And I think that with guys, they always find these ways to downgrade women in the smallest thing. But there's something very beautiful about the French. When I see a woman with French tip nails now, I know she's getting up, doing that Instagram,

finding a way to brain herself. And that's someone that might give you five bucks. Yo, if any woman on here has French tip nails and you like these jokes, hit me on Venmo. You know what I mean? Like, I want some French. I would love it. You know who I don't like? That's why I don't like women with clear nails. That's just lazy. You know what I mean? Like, I want some French. I would love it. You know who I don't like? That's why I don't like women with clear nails.

That's just lazy. You know what I mean? So French tip are clear except for the tips, right? The tip. The stuff that's off the cuticle. Yeah. Like, you see those. Like, Anna, have you ever had them?

That's the exact definition of a French tip nail. I had them, like, once or twice in high school, probably for, like, dances and stuff. So, like, my parents were paying for me to like get them done, but I, I rarely do it. It's just not my style. It's too fancy. Do you get your nails done?

No, I mean, rarely. I mean, look how healthy your nails are. Once or twice. No, they are.

Yeah. It gets full of biotin. Yeah. I don't really get my nails done. Get a bone transplant with your nails. They look bulletproof. They look like made of vibranium. I mean,

they're just like, they're just like strong. You know what I mean? They're just like strong. You know what I mean? You have Persian girl nails. Yeah, I don't like to paint my nails because I have finger tattoos and I think it's too much. Oh, you got a lot going on.

It's overwhelming. And I wear a ring. It's too much. No, no, no. Do you. I am doing me. The definition, which I botched.

The classic French tip manicure is done on short to medium length nails. The nails are shaped either into a more rounded or squared shape. White polish is applied to the tips of each nail. Then a sheer pink, fresh, or beige tone is brushed over the nail bed.

Yes. Shout out to my high school girlfriend who had French tip nails. I love that you just Googled French tip nails. Because I realized it's amazing. When he said it, we exchanged a look when he was like, yeah, and it's just a white tip.

And we looked at each other like, well, that's not a good tip. And he was like, well, hold on. When I hear Miles say, that's not a good tip. You know what? When you did it, I want to make a superhero, like a white guy superhero. This is called Well, Actually. It just flies through the air. I'm allowed to correct myself.

I'm allowed to well actually myself. Myself, yes. All right. And then finally, what is a myth, Kasim? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Oh. Oh. Yeah, okay.

Here's a myth that I've been, I really started thinking. There's this myth that white people can't dance. And I'm really, I might be one of the few black people I'm really out here, putting out here. I've been to enough white functions where I have been one of a few black people to just not ruin the vibe. You know what I mean? And I think it's like white people are on beat, but it's the music that you love. You know what I'm saying? So fucking true.

And what you come in with. I've watched those Motown reviews on KQED and white people that was a time in music where the pressure was off of white people because it was jovial white people loved going back to the 50s

America was so great not like now, everything is angry white people can dance when you watch Footloose, yo, white people are out here living their best Caucasian lives. That's what my upbringing was like, identical to Footloose. Yeah. I lived in a theocracy where dance was banned. Oh, wait, for real?

No. Oh, God damn. You know what's so funny? You could have just lied. I really would. Because, yeah, for real? No. Oh, God damn. You know what's so funny? You could have just lied. Right, I know. I really would, because, yeah, I don't know. He's grown up all over the country, so he can never actually place where he was at a given time. I don't think there are any theocracies where dance is banned in America, but I could be wrong. Somebody needs to do that work.

Somebody needs to go out there and find. If there is a town, a footloose town in America, somebody needs to do it. I would love that, because there's certain things that we just think are really true. Like you said, a footloose town in America, somebody needs to do it. I would love that because there's certain things that we just think are really true. Like you said, a footloose town. Is that really a thing? You know what I mean? But white people can dance. Right.

In Japan for a little bit, there was an anti-dancing law. Oh, for real? Like in clubs, but no one enforced it. It was a very weird thing. Right, right. And yeah, I think that's true. Like at weddings, there are like these standby songs that are not very danceable, except like old people like to get out there and think they're dancing to it. Or one stepping. I don't even know if it's such a dance.

Yeah. I agree with that. It's one guy just doing his leg. It's like, ah! Just get your foot going. He's bouncing one of the legs down like he has a Charlie horse. Yeah, are you working at like a jug band? I love that myth.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And we got a lot of stories to get through. So let's do it. We took one step closer to being the dystopian timeline from Back to the Future 2, where Biff is president this morning. You know, that's the timeline where they based Biff's, like, future, the future version of Biff off of Donald Trump, like, all the way back in the 80s. They were like, this is what it would look like if Donald Trump was president. They actually said that? Yeah, yeah.

People who worked on the movie said that that was at least part of the inspiration for the Biff character because he built his empire by, you know, off of gambling, and Trump at that point was a casino owner. So some people have been pointing out similarities between that version of reality and ours now that they actually called it and that Biff is president. So in another thing come true from that world, the Supreme Court ruled today that states can determine if they want to allow gambling. So, you know. We just got to make sure he doesn't find that almanac. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big win for New Jersey and most of my friends. But not, you know, bad day for Las Vegas, probably, presumably.

Yeah. But not, you know, bad day for Las Vegas, probably, presumably. But yeah, so, you know, supporters argue, this is just directly from the New York Times article on it. Supporters argue that legalization will produce revenue for the states and critically weaken illegal sports betting operations, which makes sense. It's like organized crime. Shout out to my bookie Lenny. Right. Not paying you back now, motherfucker. It's like organized crime. Yeah. Shout out to my bookie Lenny. Right. Not paying you back now, motherfucker.

What's good? But people who are against it say that legalizing sports gambling will hook young people on gambling. Man, young people are too broke to be fucking gambling. Thank you. Get the fuck out of here. I mean. And I feel like fantasy sports already kind of does that. Yeah, exactly. Because they monetize fantasy sports.

And also they're worried that it'll encourage people of modest means to squander their savings and earnings and corrupt. Yeah, I mean, that is definitely a worry because I know some people who have had gambling problems and that once a gambler takes over your brain like it did Marge Simpson, It's hard to come back. But when I look at this, though, too, is that a lot of people have been talking about how this is actually a good sign for the effort to have ICE like enforce their sort of deportation orders in sanctuary cities. Because it's sort of the same thing of like they're trying to conscript a lot of local police officers to actually enforce these immigration laws. And those are things that the states, they say, well, no, that's in our purview to actually determine whether or not we want to do this. So this ruling also would help, I guess, people who are worried about sort of like the invasion of ICE coming into cities to deport people. This is actually a pretty good signal that it'll be probably difficult to do that. States' rights. States' rights.

Yeah. So I don't know. It'll be interesting. They're also worried that it'll corrupt professional and college sports, but I don't know. It'll be interesting. They're also worried that it'll corrupt professional and college sports, but I mean. Well, it's not like that's ever happened with soccer in Europe. Wait, it has. So who knows? Right. But it's funny to think about when it comes with this issue about what happens. Because I want to see this country burn down.

You know what I mean? And I want to see it in weird, funny ways where it's just like online bet. Do you gamble? No, I don't. Do you gamble? No, it's against my religion. I worship the hawk. That's from Borat.

No, I don't gamble. Have you ever? Yeah. Let's be real. I like to play dice here and there. I like to bet on sports occasionally. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, let's, I know you want a cute time,

but like I find all of you very interesting, but he has, sometimes he says these small things that on the black part of me is like, all right. You know what I mean? For the inquisitive side, the podcast, I'm like, what? What's going on? You don't play a little C-low, why not?

Wait, you know what? You a Valley dude, but you got an Inglewood heart, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, look, my family's all over the city. Now, wait, have you shaken them up to the point where, like, someone tried to steal your money? No, no, no. Because, like, everyone I played with never had that much money,

and it were, like, you know, it was a real deal. I really want to hang out with you, bro. Your world is like BET and Vice comes together. You know what I'm saying? And it's like. Yeah, last week I was talking about all the weird ecstasy hacks and shit I was doing. Yeah, who knows?

Have you played dice? No, I haven't. You got to shake them up. Yeah, we should have a... We'll do a live... You got a good corner right here. Yeah, right there. You got a good...

No, no, for real. Because you get to play dice. You know, you got to have a good, solid corner. And I mean... Pull the carpet back a little bit because you don't want the dice to hit it. Yeah, you can't have anything bouncing off it because when you when they hit the floor they got to do a good roll so there's the one dude that plays dice like whoa whoa whoa wait how did it bounce though you know i mean are these loaded it's always like a dude a little

older than you he owes everyone money he's trying to do but yeah because it'll be interesting to think about like what happens with the story. Do you guys follow stories like this? Yeah, of course. I mean, we follow every story. But I mean, this is, like anything, right? This is just the first shot that says, okay, well, we've seen now that the floodgates can open now for this kind of gambling. I think in a few months from now, we'll see who the real kind of stakeholders are and

who really bounce the benefit. You know what's funny? Who benefits from all these things, like with these interesting new addictions is like my old therapist he broke down to me about how much his colleagues make

about trying to find new ways to open up new groups and new focuses and what not but even something like this like he said like what he said

in a list he's like you know what's funny is like with people especially younger people as people of a certain income especially people who start making money

but need to make more money is that when it comes to stuff like the internet, finding ways, you know, people are internet addicted, so like more therapists. But he said gambling, but internet gambling. So I just kind of always wonder. It's not like they're the top of the people who find their profits from this. But I always wonder about like what we're,

the one thing that we don't talk about is like trying to curb new addictions. Right. And this is so immediate, but it's hard that's why this could be interesting because if you can just lose 10 grand on your phone from like placing bets because you're like you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna put another and who wins on an exacta or whatever wins from that people who repair cell phone screens you know i mean just don't at the walls it's like yeah all right let's get into uh what's going on over in Jerusalem today. What happened?

So America, as we've talked about before, moved our embassy to Jerusalem officially. were going to do, but then never went through with it because it is essentially like taking a side in the debate over whether Israel or Palestine has the right to the city of Jerusalem. It's sort of the holiest of the holy lands for three separate religions. There's been a lot of protests going on ever since this announcement. And Palestinian protesters are just getting murdered. Yes. Straight up, like, shot by snipers through the eye. Yeah.

Shot a dude in a wheelchair. Yeah, shot a dude in a wheelchair. An amputee was using a fucking slingshot. Like, there was a photo of this guy in a wheelchair who was using a slingshot, like literal David and Goliath type shit. This man is using a rock against people with guns. And then we found out that the man from that photo, he was killed earlier today. Really?

Yeah, that guy who was in that photo. I saw that photo because it was trending because this guy from an earlier protest was actually killed today. The guy, the amputee? Yeah. Jesus Christ. The way that it's being covered, the White House press briefing happened right before we

came into the studio to record and they threw out their second string dude who goes out and says really problematic shit when Sarah Sanders has to take some time to build her will to live back up. And he was saying that the official position of the White House is that this is Israel practicing their right to self-defense and that this is all the Palestinian group Hamas.

they're blaming it all on them, saying that they're behind all the protests and that the Israeli snipers like murdering people is just Israel defending themselves because the people are throwing rocks and burning tires. Yeah. I mean, all these decisions like in the past week, they've just basically let Israel know, like, we're not really going to say anything. The problem, like we as a country have enabled this like continuing dehumanization of like Palestinian people, like the people in Gaza, like they can't even have like real commerce and trade because all of their movements are restricted. And that's led to really bad problems. Like youth unemployment is really high for a lot of these Palestinian kids.

So the only way to fucking feel alive or do something about it is to go and demonstrate. And then when you have troops basically gunning people down, I mean, the situation is really bad. And the U.S. only has itself to blame for even allowing this to happen. Because prior to this, acknowledging Jerusalem as the capital of Israel would have been used as a bargaining chip in peace talks.

But by doing this, I don't know how you bring everybody to the negotiating table and give something Israel wants, because part of their end game was basically legitimizing their claim to Jerusalem as their capital. So it's basically, I don't know, the situation is just getting worse and worse. It's hard to know how this moves forward, especially when Jared Kushner and Donald Trump are like, well, this is a step forward towards peace. It's the complete opposite. Israel itself and the people of Israel are not inherently wrong, but Israel in this case,

the regime in power is far right wing. And this is what it looks like when, you know, the Israeli right wing is sort of allowed to go unchecked. But I wanted to play a clip from this morning's NPR Up First podcast because I think it's a good example of how the mainstream media is covering this as almost like these are the two equally valid sides of this debate. And I don't know, it seems crazy that they're being treated that way. I think we have a clip. It's called into question the tactics on both sides of this, right? So what do the two sides actually say about what they have been doing here? Well, Israel says tens of thousands of Palestinians are gathering, many throwing rocks and firebombs and burning tires to obscure the soldiers' view. And Israel says it's using live fire to keep people from damaging or crossing the border fence.

So live fire, meaning they're shooting people who are... Real bullets. Because they're worried that they're going to damage the border fence. Because they're worried that they're going to damage the border fence. So up to today, it was 41 people had been murdered by Israeli snipers. And then today, I think 50-something protesters and demonstrators were murdered at the border. It's crazy, too. When you look at Amnesty International, other human rights groups, they're all being being like this is really a trip that it's going down like this like they're like even observers can't believe the like sheer volume of of like wounded people there are because there's something like over a thousand people that are wounded too yeah and it's just really tough because i don't even think when it

comes to this whole conflict like you know the u.. was sort of looked as, oh, there used to be viewed as an unbiased sort of mediator. Now we've completely blown that up and we have no moral high ground in any way. And it's tough to think that, you know, when the Israeli soldiers and stuff are shooting these demonstrators just so easily, like, are they really looking at this group of people as equal, that they also have dignity as human beings, that when you come to the negotiating table, you can acknowledge that humanity to come to some kind of conclusion that actually will heal, create peace. It's very tough, man. It's tough to watch, man, especially when you look at the juxtaposition of the images

today. On one hand, you have everybody at the embassy smiling and celebrating. And then just 40 miles away or however far away, there are people losing their lives and getting killed. And a lot of the headlines were, there are people losing their lives and getting killed. And a lot of the headlines were like obscuring the fact that these people were getting killed. They were saying, oh, Palestinian protesters die in clash, clashes or whatever, not Israelis,

or they were shooting these people and killing them dead. Right. But again, that's how this media apparatus works at times. It's tough to report clearly because they don't want people to criticize them for saying like, you know, somehow you're being anti-Semitic by saying something like this or whatever. Look, the facts are that these people with rocks were getting shot because they were afraid that they were going to damage a fence. It doesn't seem, I don't see how that is an equal combatant or like how they're seen as equal. The New York Times headline says

Israel kills dozens and injures 2,400 at Gaza border. Meanwhile, there are pictures of Ivanka Trump and her husband at like the ceremony clapping politely as people, you know, dedicate the American embassy. But I think that that is probably viewed as a controversial way to present this, that Israel is killing these people. And I'm sure that they will be called out by various groups. But who knows? But how could you describe it objectively? Like Israel shoots guns and the bullets hit these people and then they died? People are shot by? You know what I mean? No, no, it's insane. I mean, that NPR clip was presenting it as you know that I'm just

on in this equally valid point Israel is saying that they're burning tires and throwing rocks so that's why they're allowed to shoot children through the eye one of the people they shot in the head was a 14 year old it's just fucking awful and I mean yeah you can. I feel like our media is so obsessed with even handedness and also afraid of, you know, being called out for being anti-Israel that they kind of go too far in that direction of being just like too journalism-y. Like, well, here are the two sides in this clash. And it's like one side is fucking murdering people. this clash and it's like one side is fucking murdering people right well and some of those other headlines i guess the new york times they used israel killed or whatever but when they try and be like uh violent protests erupt and people lose their lives they're acting like the protests were so lit that people were just killing each other right you know what i mean yeah the protests

caused the the headline betrays like the the reality of it and it doesn't acknowledge the loss of human life right um all right let's get into a very strange story my heart is breaking over here uh so qatar steve bannon ice cube this is a real story these are the main players in this story that you wouldn't take it away is this three kings part two spike jones uh so, the Daily Mail published a story that talks about this lawsuit that was being brought from Ice Cube and Jeff Quadinets, who they're like, that's his co-CEO of, remember, the Big Three Basketball League that came out where it's like washed NBA players are able to come back and have some kind of dignity. This is where you could go see a basketball game with your favorite old players from the

past. And then after the game, they could be your lift driver exactly you're like damn Mateen Cleaves I just saw you dunking on somebody they're like damn your Honda is dirty as shit though my guy so yes so this involves this big three basketball league where uh essentially uh Ice Cube and his co-ceo Jeff Quadnitz they they're suing this Qatari man named Ahmed Al Rumahi, who is part of, I believe, the Qatari royal family as well, because he said, I'm going to drop $20.5 million on the league. And they're like, oh, shit. OK, great. This is perfect because we're trying to do a three-on-three basketball tournament with players past their prime. We can use all the help we can get.

Just using all residuals from Friday. Yeah, exactly. We can sit in there like, yo. Shout out to Pat Charbonnet. So what happened was they're suing them because they said they only paid them $7.5 million. But what really goes down is that this Qatari was basically trying to get to Steve Bannon because this guy, Jeff Quadinets, was really close with Steve Bannon. So their idea was if they can get good with this guy, they will make the intro to Steve Bannon.

And then they can get to Steve Bannon where they were basically offering to underwrite all of his political activity because they knew that he's a broke boy now because the Mercer has pulled out of funding him. So they're like, hey, Qatar would love to underwrite all your political activity just in exchange for like favorable political coverage that's all and so when this all this all made this guy jeff quad and it's really uncomfortable and they're like yo this seems really weird i thought this was about really terrible basketball and now it's about like info governmental influence this is all while steve bannon is in the white house right uh one of the guys like who was representing this investor was sort of like well what, what's the problem? Mike Flynn had no problem taking this money. Why are you acting like you're shook all of a sudden?

Wait, what? Yeah. Mike Flynn took all this money, huh? So what's crazy is Michael Avenatti, who was up tweeting on Mother's Day about getting to get ready. I tried to warn you. He was showing pictures of this Qatari guy literally meeting with Mike Cohen and Mike Flynn at fucking Trump Tower in December of 2016. Now, who knows what was it was there for, whatever. You can assume what you want or pretend nothing was going on. But like it's on wax that this guy is like it

probably gives a little more credence to like what the Jeff Quaid is saying or in the lawsuit when they allege that this Qatari man was saying, oh, well, Mike Flynn, like he was down with the with the program. So what's the problem? And it's just a really weird thing, because like, you know, right now, Qatar is like it first started off, I think last year, Trump was like, all right, we're with the Saudis and the Emirates, the Emiratis. We're going to we're going to join this like blockade, this trade blockade against Qatar because they were just being real messy.

Then suddenly suddenly like last month trump like had the guy like the head of state of qatar to the white house he's like oh they're a great ally against terrorism so the flip-flopping is really interesting remember how they're saying like chinese and qatari like intelligence were shopping around like bad info on jared kushner right so who knows if the administration was like look we'll pull out of the blockade maybe you don't talk about the weird shit you have on Jared Kushner because he was also meeting with Qatari people to try and get money for his like doomed building, like half a billion dollars that he needs. So there's just a lot of weird smoke. I don't know what real facts are, I'm just going to leave it as Ice Cube and this other guy having to sue Qatar

for, I don't know, their failed bribery scheme. So this is the second time in two weeks we're seeing people willing to pay millions and millions of dollars just to get close to somebody who is close to the president. Right. You know, so some people are like,

oh, this isn't that abnormal, but it seems pretty fucking abnormal and like it's just all over the place. And you know what? I think that this is like some of the best money that any of these people have ever spent. Because getting close to this president, he is the most easy to influence human being in the world. And he's just good with whatever the last thing he heard was. So like, why wouldn't you pay $10 million to try and like,

yeah, get in his ear, get in his ear, get in the ear of somebody who can get in his ear. Um, I don't know. I just tend to think that when you look at what people are spending money on, like,

this is actually something I was going to talk about in the gambling section. There's this thing, the wisdom of crowds, where it talks about how the, we, we think that like the line is placed by some genius in Vegas. Oh, you mean the betting line? Yeah, the betting line, like what the odds are and everything.

And it's actually just placed by who bets how much money, the volume of betting. It's basically just a market. And so the crowds, by placing their money, determine what the line is, and they're just fucking really good at it. Crowds, by, like, placing their money, determine what the line is, and they're just fucking really good at it. There's all sorts of evidence that, you know, there's this story about how at a fair, like, they had this jelly bean guessing contest. It was, like, 3,000-something jelly beans are in a jar. And while nobody got within 100, the average of everybody's guesses were within one jelly bean. And, like like that's... Wow.

Yeah. So like crowds overall, like when working not necessarily together, but when everybody's trying to get to the right answer, if you average everything, you find really, really smart decisions being made. That's how gambling works. That's how markets work. But I feel like when you get a view into how people are spending their money around this White House, and it's like millions of dollars being spent just

to get in the same room with our president, it just makes me worried that our president is voluntarily getting into the same room with a dude who is the head of North Korea and a cult leader. who is the head of North Korea and a cult leader, you know, like obviously this dude would want to meet with him. If other people are paying $20 million for the right to get in a room with him to just like tell him their side of the story so that that influences him to a crazy degree. So I don't know. I feel like any meeting with the president,

we're giving away a thing of enormous value. Yeah. Well, because, yeah, he's just not, I don't even think he knows what he wants either, or he knows what the position is of his own government. So, I mean, it's a great thing if you just need to manipulate somebody. There couldn't be a more perfect administration. Right. Because, yeah, so massively inconsistent. Right. Like, it wouldn't make sense to spend $20 million to get in the same room as Obama, because he's a person of principles who you're not going to be able to convince one way or the other.

But with this dude, it's basically like getting a meeting with the godfather at the beginning of the godfather at his daughter's wedding. It's just like, yeah, well, of course we'll pay that much money. This is our future as a nation. future as a nation um i'm really intrigued by this story because on one because i'm reading these screenwriting books yeah and so like i'm just always trying to find like this because my thing is like using three on three basketball right made by ice cube so like just like wondering who had this idea like it's a table you know full of experts you know i mean and like okay we need to get to steve bannon and we've tried this

i only have one accent okay i didn't go to ucb all right okay that's more of a ground links thing all right so let's just say there's more of like Let's say it's a guy We're gonna give it to Steve Bannon And we're just coming up with these ideas And we're just Everyone's just racking their brain They got their sleeves It's like hours

And there's like one It's like you know that movie when there's the intern The lonely intern And it gets like What are you doing right now I'm looking at this three on three basketball I guess Kenyon Martin is playing again And one guy's like Wait a minute and gets like, what are you doing right now? I'm looking at this three-on-three basketball. I guess Kenyon Martin is playing again.

And one guy's like, wait a minute, do people like this? And I'm just like, yeah, it's pretty popular. You know, Ice Cube. I'm like, I love Ice Cube. Everyone loves Friday. And next thing you know, the kid gets the big office. Somebody gets fired. You know what I mean?

I want to see how this plays out because I just want to see, number one, I want to see how far this story can get to where they're actually interviewing Ice Cube about this. Yeah, well, I mean, he's in the lawsuit. So eventually he will be. I mean, he'll probably have something to say. Will this end up in the Predator 2 album? I think it's like, you know, or Friday 5. International Man of Mystery. I think it's like, you know, or Friday Five. You know what I mean?

National Man of Mystery. I mean, yeah, it's like a Coen Brothers movie where the story is about how this half-assed celebrity three-on-three basketball league was used to topple a government or something. It's just like on paper. I feel like Tom Hanks, this is his next vehicle. You know what I mean? Or like one of these, like Orvin Denzel. Somehow this is becoming a movie in 2021. For sure.

Or somewhere. I just think the producer for the big short or somebody's going to see this. And then Cube will play Cube or his son will play him. Yeah, it's going to be O.J. Jackson. For sure. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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We sort of talked about it last week with the shrinking blue wave, the fact that it seems like the national mood is shifting and his approval rating is taking up slightly. People are acting like it's shot through the roof. It's only up to 42%. He's still 42% favorable, 52% unfavorable, but it has gone up a little bit from the high 30s, low 40s. I mean, 42 is still low 40s. So you're seeing national mood kind of trend in that direction. You're seeing Jimmy Kimmel in a Deadline interview was saying that he thinks people, like we've consumed, I think he, to quote him, ass load of like anti-Trump or just like Trump content. It's weird to say you've consumed an ass load of anything.

It is weird. And that is on Jimmy Kimmel. But yeah, so he was saying that he's not going to put much Trump material in this performance he's doing in New York coming up. And then, you know, there's the second most popular article on the New York Times yesterday was a piece called Liberals Aren't As Smart as They Think, which is by a conservative professor at UVA. And, you know, he makes as good an argument as you can as a conservative for like, you know, the ways that liberals are sort of demeaning towards conservative viewpoints.

And I don't think the title is probably one he would have chosen, but titles are chosen by the editors. But at the same time, it's still him being like, and all this conservative bashing is out of hand. He's ignoring the big point that all the damage and hate that Trump is engaged in. But I don't know. I don't even know if it's conservative values or whatever. People have a problem with like discrimination, racism and shit like that. And I think to obscure it and be like conservative, okay, if you're fiscally conservative, whatever, I'm not out here trying to be like, how the fuck?

I mean, these people are so reckless with their fiduciary ideas. You know what I mean? Like there's nothing like that, that people are getting really upset about when they do it. It's about things. It's like all this kleptocracy that our country's become and things like that. And I think that's odd. But I do agree with this sort of thing that it's like, you know, like with a troll or anything, you give them air and they're going to keep coming back.

And it's the same thing, like especially when you look at how like the playbook is on the right. That's just all it is. Like we're going to do something. They're going to get upset and we'll just keep rocking like this. And they're just going to be so upset, so outraged, so outraged, so outraged, that at some point, like, people have to kind of grow up and be like, okay, what are we giving our air to constantly? Right.

Like, what are we giving our power away to constantly? And I think that's probably where we are in this evolution of Trump being a president, where now you have comedians being like, damn, like, does this shit still resonate? Or do we need to kind of figure out another way to talk about this? Right. I feel like majority of people who like who are starting to ride with Trump. Like understand that they need a leader that's going to give them what they want and need.

And beyond all the articles about beyond anything that's happening is that I'm coming straight from the barbershop. Right. I'm not looking at any articles. I'm coming straight from the barbershop. I'm not looking at any articles. I understand when I talk to people on the street is that when you get away from it, a lot of folks are okay with what he's doing because he's making things happen. And without any huge jargon or whatnot.

And so now we're at a point where people really are saying, I think it comes to a point where some people understand that he's not he's not going anywhere. So let's listen to him, you know. And so the people that I know, the people who are always on the fence, I see more people becoming conservative because they understand that liberals will let you down. You know what I mean? Liberals will let you down a lot, you know. And the fact is because we need we need somebody who's going to act as the bad guy and really gets to put us on our ass.

And I hate that it's this guy, but I think it's a lot of people are finally looking for it. It's most of the time the wrong message, but even when that wrong message, for a lot of people, I feel it's the right attitude. Yeah. I feel like it's kind of like along with what you're saying, him getting things done, people are bored with the same story over and over again. And like they had all the dopamine hits that their brain can take of Trump, like being revealed to be a worse and worse person. And like

rarely will you see a narrative in the media last so long that someone's the villain. Usually they'll find a way to like make that person like have a come up or, you know, with LeBron, they will find a way to like make the fact that he's going to Miami turn into like this huge persona destroying failure. We like changes. We like the high to be brought low and the low to be brought high. And it's just like good programming. And so in addition to the fact that he is just good at creating this reality show around the presidency, I also just think there's this inherent, you know, desire by us to like have plot twists or something. To like not just see the same shit over and over again.

And it's crazy too. Like, you know, we started doing this as a podcast, right? And then like, as we do this more, I realized, you know, we have a place, I guess we're, you know, we are media, but we're not necessarily journalists. We don't try and present ourselves as like, you know, just the hard hitting news. We just discuss what the news is. But then I realized too, we're sort of doing the same thing, which is being like, look how bad this is, look how bad this is, look how bad this is, look how bad this is, look how bad this is. And I think that does get old. And for a while you can only get so dejected about the situation that it's good to give people something to focus on that can empower them and

give a little more sense of hope or something that there are things that we're trying to do or that people in government are trying to do or that people in government are trying to do that will affect them. Because I think for the most part, a lot of the rhetoric that's around all these scandals and things like that, and we mentioned this with the midterm things we were talking about on Friday, is that that doesn't really, like people who aren't engaged in politics, that's meaningless to them because their bottom line is their day-to-day existence. So if they're not seeing changes in that, that sometimes hardly does much to get them to change ideologically.

There comes a point when you can talk to people on the front lines about – and people – even if you talk about yourself as podcasters and whatnot. You guys know – you guys have an authority. You guys have a place in people's lives. But it's at a certain point. It's like it becomes an everyday activity to listen to you. Right. comes an everyday activity listen to you right but if you guys if we don't see ourselves like getting people let's say off the internet and on the outer net this is a and out into the streets you know I mean and understanding that like let meet me here at this place we're going to help mobilize at a certain

point you just become I think with some people when they look at media and everybody in the new and these new forms me a new leaders like there comes a point where you have to meet these people face to face, yada, yada, yada. It has to be some kind of result. It's just like having a shitty supervisor. I can sit up here and be in the stock room talking all day, blah, blah, blah. At a certain point, this is what that would mean. I would have bosses that I know are not the worst, you know what I mean?

And I can't just complain. At a certain point, I have to need to talk to this guy or this woman and really figure out, like, how can I work with them? And I think that's what's happening right now. We understand that for Trump and his cabinet, cabinet everyone that it's moving to the point where i think some people assume that he's gonna have two terms so it's like the fifth point maybe it's not we see it as a there gets like you know rooting for him it's just like how we're gonna work with this maniac you know i mean i don't think you can work with him because i don't even i think that some people have that i think there's some people like especially people who feel they're subordinate, always going to be.

They're going to think, how do I work with people in power? How can they have me understand me? And so when you have people, and this goes again with celebrity, because that's something my mind's wrapped around. It's like when you see people in the world of music, entertainment, and the like, right? And trying to understand, like, as nutty as we think Kanye is, you know what I mean? He is nutty and in a box full of paydays, you know what I'm saying? To have a guy come down from his, you know, medication mountain, right, and come down and try to understand and talk to this guy,

it says a lot for the, like, gives to people who feel like they're the common man. Like, maybe there is something here. Maybe there's hope. It's odd, but it's so sad that we are still hopeful to say like we would rather try to work with this guy and since i'm trying to figure out the best way to get rid of him you know i mean and because most people don't know what impeachment is how long it takes and people thought it'd be done by now right now you see he's not going anywhere it's like well i might as well work with this guy you know i mean it's like well yeah for the time being, I guess to do anything.

But I think the fact remains, as much as we try and understand Trump or what his rabid base is about, there's not one effort for them to understand what people on the progressive side are trying to do or understand what people of color are struggling with. And so when that's absent, I find it very difficult to be like, okay, how do I work with this person? Because this person has no interest in doing anything that would benefit my community, benefit working people. To the contrary, everything they've done has been at the detriment of those groups. Yeah, but we're all looking for leaders. We're all looking for leaders and martyrs, too, you know what I'm saying? To really put, you know, to lead the charge.

But I think at this point, we don't know. There isn't anyone who's really, you know, relieve the charge but i think at this point we don't know there isn't anyone who's really you know like has stepped up so now i feel like it's like let's just walk up this mountain and try to talk this right and that's what's happening and that's exhausting to keep pushing and pushing without leadership and i think people on the progressive side or who are critical of trump also because we are in our own media bubbles, underestimate how many people and how hard those people are pushing back in the other direction, that if we just let up a little bit, things are going to start moving back in the other direction. And I think North Korea is a good example, like how his decision to meet with North Korea is being treated as

like a work of masterful, you know, statesmanship is, you know, as we've talked about before, total bullshit, because every president from here to, you know, 30 years ago could have decided to have that meeting. Now, again, we don't know how this is going to go, but there are reasons nobody has done it up till now. And, you know, he is just taking a huge, huge risk that ignores all the reasons that those people haven't. But people are acting like he was the first person to think of the idea to meet with North Korea.

Yeah, I'm going to go put it out here. Wild shots. Cold brew, wild shots. Before he runs for office again, he's going to hit over 50%. Damn. I will bet my studio apartment. You know what I mean? I'm out here.

I'm really doing this. I understand. Because I do feel like he's too, like, yeah, with North Korea. In fact, you said North Korea. And then looking at the news today and now looking at what he's going to do about, like, even these ideas, like, he's going to try to go to Chicago and deal with the youth and this and all that and eradicate all this and in looking at gun laws I mean yeah I think there's going to be this it's going to be a really interesting campaign about he's just going to

be on the grounds making things happen for the country and yeah yeah all right we will keep an eye on it Kasim it's been a pleasure having you, man. Where can people find you, follow you? Boom. Thank you very much for that. You can find me next week on my new show, Some People Like Us, with my guy Casey Lai. We're at the Dynasty Typewriter, May 22nd, 10 p.m. Boom.

Tickets online at DynastyTypewriter.com. Or you can just hit me up, give you some comps, right? Only two. Not going to go crazy, right go crazy right bring your date or whatever you know what I mean Venmo yo if you like these jokes and these wild hot takes right there these cold brew hot

takes these cold brew hot takes right hit a brother on Venmo you know the deal Kaseem Bentley right there or hit me on FB Messenger right I take it I will take foreign money I don't care right I'll take DJ Khaled, right there, or hit me on FB Messenger, right? I take it. I will take foreign money. I don't care, right? I'll take DJ Khaled money. It doesn't matter. Find me on Facebook. Find me at KassimBentley.com. Don't

find me on Twitter. I'm not really tweeting like that. Find me on Instagram. And also, if Trump doesn't get over 50, charge this man on Femme. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come get your money. Yo, I'm not... Like, look, if I'm putting it out there, if you follow me, if he doesn't hit 50% when he's on the campaign trail, I will give you a dollar, right? Oh, shit.

Okay, so 50,000 people come and get on the list? 50,000, by that time, I'll be rich. Because I also did, and I sell my body, right? Very positive thinking. All right, Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter.

We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we ride out on. Miles, what is that going to be? Someone hit me up, I forget, on Twitter or Instagram. Sorry when I can never remember, y'all,

but I do look at most of my mentions. They wanted a J5 song or Jurassic 5 song, and earlier I was talking about the elements of hip-hop, emceeing and scratching, and you know what? Jurassic 5 was one of my favorite groups because, look, DJ Numark, Cut Chemist are legendary DJs, and, you know the mcs are great themselves but i was more of the newmark and uh cut chemist fan variety but look

this is a track off of not off one of their albums it's off but i'm called one big trip but this one's called verbal gunfight and it has like uh i don't know like the the the beat feels like it's like a score to like a detective show or like a like a opening to miami vice or some shit so just vibe out to that uh you know something nice and easy just to just to start off the week as shit it is starting off so fucking heavy uh that i don't know god we might have to do a bunch of jokes tomorrow all right we're gonna ride out on that we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast talk to you guys bye meanwhile Meanwhile Meanwhile

Now what you hear is not a test This is a verbal gunfight like the Wild Wild West And if you got beat, get it off your chest, my son Because the two-foot's gonna show you how the West was won We rode up to the spot about a half past noon Jumped from the horse sled into the saloon Walking in the spot, I heard the music man stop Danced up to the barber, double snap, a load of pop Now Mr. Bartender told me strangers get flack

But they'll be fucking with the black village act You'll be back in the tree They never even got the chance, bruh We moved the crowd like we was horse on a bench My drinkie never passed it, he got real sarcastic You them niggas from the crew called Jurassic Talkin' mad shit as his face showed a frown You niggas better leave before the sun go down

Cause we be the king of the verbal gunslingers You better bring a casket, a preacher and a singer, nigga We be the king of the verbal gunslingers You better bring the casket, a preacher and a singer nigga We be the king of the ones that brought static I use my rhymes like a clock for the math Ay yo, something looking fishy, yo, I think we better watch Yo, I make shit, you got your trigger punk cocked Yo, I'm saying real niggas always deal a gun blast Get the horse, kiss the girl, grab the mic and let's dance

Cause we be the king of the verbal gunslinger You better bring the casket, a preacher and a singer nigga Cause when the lid locks on, it'll lift ya You better bring a casket, a preacher, and a singer, nigga Cause when the lid locks on, it'll lift ya I'm not a grifter, more like a high-flames drifter And as the plot kickin', thinkin' niggas started shovin' me Muggin' me, tuggin' me, into the good, bad, and the ugly Troubly, doubly, I grab a glass full of bubbly Publicly rubbin' me, I told my nigga, Charlie, cover me

Yo, I got your back, and I'm buckin' I'm lookin' back, and I'm duckin' I'm tryna get us the fuck out the place Brothers, it was a rass, and we was doin' the blast And yo I'm trying to get us the fuck out the place Brothers who was harassing, we was doing the blasting Yo, Sup, go get us the bucks out the safe, for y'all We be the king of the verbal gunslinger You better bring the casket, a preacher and a singer, nigga We be the king of the ones that brought static

I use my rhymes like a clock for the madman Redmen never tell about the things they saw The stakes is what can make a man become an outlaw Hey, we be the feets who keep the past alive It's toom the fish and die kid from the Jurassic 5 Outro Music They think that they can make a man hush with an ambush My man bust till you crack the safe, your back is safe And we gon' take the back escape, now pray Now if you don't know who we are, I suggest you better hide Or look down the devil's eye, sing a lullaby And the picture on the poster make my left side my best side

I'm on my last two rounds, I let a thousand free I heard the bar tender call for the cavalry Now they outside waiting on my pal and me Verbal Gunslinger forever and proud to be Cause uh, we be the king of the Vervary. Now they outside waiting on my pal and me. Verbal Gunslinger forever and proud to be. Cause we be the king of the Verbal Gunslinger. And now they got the casket, the preacher, and the singer. Cause they hiring up the five men. Stay alive, y'all. Riding with our back to the wall. Trying to survive the fall. Cause dead men never tell about the things they saw. The stakes is what can make a man become an outlaw. Hey, we be the beach who keep the pass alive. It's tune the fish and I kill the Jurassic 5. Thank you. Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from?

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