The Daily Zeitgeist - Gangs of Disneyland, Worst/Best Olympic Skier 2.20.18

Episode Date: February 20, 2018

In episode 88, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Dave Huntsberger to discuss Black Panther destroying the box office, Fergie's national anthem at the NBA All Star game, the Olympic skier who gam...ed the system, Disneyland gangs, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:01:37 Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Seeing that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba, and the piña colada from Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Listen to Hungry for History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 19, Episode 1 of our Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. For February 20th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Watch out, boy, she'll chew you up. Oh, O'Brien, she's a man-eater. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:22 That's right. Those were my actual vocals. I did not. No auto-tune. There was no auto-tune. That's right. Those were my actual vocals. I did not. No auto-tune. There was no auto-tune. That was all real. That was courtesy of Jose Antonio Reyes. And I am joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Come, my lady. Come, come, my lady. You're my butterfly. Sugar. Gravy. Gravy sounds like my last name. How did that sound? That's some sort of skin disorder.
Starting point is 00:02:45 It is, but it's a much milder form of scabies. And that comes from Chapman Rice. As always. A.K.A. God Chapman Rice. A.K.A. God Chapman Rice. And we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very funny comedian Dave Hunsberger. Hello. What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Hey, thanks for the snaps. Just snapping them all. Hey, it's great to have you here. Dave, what's something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Very little. I don't do a ton of search, but I look at stuff. Because I know everything. I just don't look stuff up.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I don't know how I learn stuff, honestly. Yeah. You have that podcast, Space Cave, where you just talk to people. Yeah. They tell you stuff. Yeah, they tell me straight away away like if I have a question. Your podcast is your search engine. How do I change spark plugs?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah, you just – I just call it that. And my guest this week is my mechanic. Yeah, I do feel weird when I Google search something because I don't do it that often. And then when I'm doing it, I'm like, I feel like this should be happening all the time. Usually it's how to spell a word or something. I didn't know how to spell tzatziki last night. And then so I looked that up because we were making some Greek food and then looked up some of the ingredients. So now I kind of know how to make tzatziki.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I don't know what that says about me. Well, famously, you will not eat anything you don't know how to spell. You've always said that. I've always said that. Tattooed on my person. That's why we never go to Ethiopian. I'm trying to think of a good search. Because of course, there'll be some name or a figure that I don't
Starting point is 00:04:18 know, and then I will type that. I'm like, who the hell is this? But I can't think of a good one recently. Tzatziki are you you like to cook no not particularly okay all right well we solved that uh what is something you think is underrated oh the show detectorists detectorist oh yeah the english one with uh gareth from the the office yeah i started watching that yeah yeah he's great he wrote and like directs the show it's real i bet the scripts are eight pages long.
Starting point is 00:04:46 It's just a lot of establishing shots, and it's just real slow-paced. Just that as a whole is very underrated, like calmness and just understanding things. It's still funny. It's still great. I think that's why I like the British Bake Off. Right, right, exactly. It's soothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I mean, yeah, it's funny because it's still a comedy, but it still has that sort of great British Bake Off energy where you're just kind of like, ooh, I'm laughing, and I'm also being lulled into a comfortable place. Yeah. Yeah. So that, I feel like, is underrated. Have you ever watched slow TV? Like they just put a camera on a boat and like it goes across a channel for like eight hours uncut. That's like the heroine, the uncut of, I guess, what the British – Raw uncut. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:36 It's just like – but it's good to have on in the background. I've seen the one where you take a train ride. Yeah, the train ride is really nice because of the sound of trains. Where do you find Slow TV? It's on – There's a bunch on Netflix. Apple TV on Netflix. I think Amazon has versions because it's like a huge – it's like a Scandinavian thing, right?
Starting point is 00:05:52 Right. Yeah, they did it one year in Scandinavia. It was like the highest rated thing they've ever had. It was like their Super Bowl. All right. We've written a bunch of shows. Boom. We've written a bunch of shows.
Starting point is 00:06:03 What do you think of this? I'd rather just watch the boat. Yeah. Boom. We've written a bunch of shows. What do you think of this? I'd rather just watch the boat. Yeah. Yeah. That sucks. It's pretty cool, though, because by the end of the boat ride, I think it's like nine hours long, and people are coming out and waving to the camera because they were watching it and were aware.
Starting point is 00:06:20 They're like, oh, no. It's going to come by our house. What's something you think is overrated? I think I like to look at the Twitter moments. What is the population at large saying about this? And the guy running down the escalator and falling. Have you seen that one? I haven't.
Starting point is 00:06:36 People will be like, here's Kevin Durant getting out of whatever arena. And then it just shows a dude like flying down an escalator or the hold my beer line or the kind of Mormon looking blonde dude who does those weird blinks. Just sort of reaction gifts. Reaction gifts drive me insane because anytime I'm like scrolling through, I'll be like, oh, there's like eight of these posted. All of them will have like 500 likes or retweets. Right. Whereas I feel like they deserve zero. It's so unoriginal.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yeah. People rely on the same six reaction gifts right now it's unbelievable like so and so says this the next person hold my beer i'm like yeah that's been that's been done to death and i'll look and i'll have an insane amount of reaction to it and i just feel like i hope their house blows up i just can't stand that this person's kids man you know, man. You know, that internet talk is taking over. We don't even speak in real words anymore. We communicate in reaction gifs. Yeah. But I guess, yeah, you haven't seen the one with the escalator? This dude is
Starting point is 00:07:33 sliding down the... You're talking about the one who he's sliding down between escalators and epically destroys his nether regions. No, I'm talking... This guy is like... Oh, yeah. I've seen that one. People are going up the escalator. There's two. It looks like it's in a stadium of some sort. People are coming down on one side.
Starting point is 00:07:49 They're going up on the other, and he just comes barreling down like he's fleeing from someone that's shooting at him or something. Oh, shit. I think he's got like a sweatshirt or some sort of jacket like dragging behind him, and he jumps. He lands the first step, and then he just kind of tumbles down and plows through a bunch of people. And so it really captures that whole people leaving a scene in sort of the most dramatic and unhealthy way possible. The other one I just thought of is Vince McMahon walking into places.
Starting point is 00:08:20 They go so-and-so walking into their contract negotiations, like, and they post that. I want their house to blow up also. How do you, how do you choose to communicate? Not at all. they go so and so walking into their contract negotiations like and they post that i want their house to blow up also uh how do you like how do you choose to communicate not at all so yeah i'm off the grid i'm out there just living a quiet life internalizing everything just found out about these reaction gifs google has your picture on a thing they're like we have to figure out the last man in america because every – I mean it's such a natural human thing.
Starting point is 00:08:46 We want our perspective, our point of view to matter, to share it. Right. When you look at those moments, man, and you realize there's like eight reactions to anything that people share. Right. So when anyone stands out to you, you go, oh, that's a unique take. Otherwise, we're just like fish being sprinkled food in. And then the ones that feel like they're the most important go right up to the top and they eat the food and share those stupid gifts and i just can't stand great great joke account would just be to have a count that uses the same reaction gift to just
Starting point is 00:09:12 react to like many of the top tweets of the day yeah right and just always do that yeah i think uh well i like those things david so now i'm gonna take you to task. All right. That's fair. No, we are the Twitter moments of podcasts, though. So we are we are we are one big reaction gift to a show. But all right. So basically, we're trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about right now. And the way we like to open up is by asking our guests, what is a myth? What's something that people believe to be true that you, in your personal experience, know to be false? Oh, I could tell you a few ones that are fake, that are lies. I was just looking at this magazine that has Brad Pitt's name on it.
Starting point is 00:09:54 It's William Bradley Pitt. People think he changed his name to Brad because of reverence for his grandfather or something. But I think he was named Will Pitt, and then the Devo song got to be too much. He was made fun of, changed it to Brad. That's dumb. Will Pitt, good. That's not a real myth.
Starting point is 00:10:12 The second one, this one is, I think this is just a common misconception. People say assless chaps. And growing up around the ranching world. Right, you were a cowboy. Yeah, yeah. It's chaps to begin with. Really?
Starting point is 00:10:28 Yeah. Really? No, you're just trying to get people to feed up when they go to the fucking... If you go behind the chutes at a rodeo and you say, cool chaps, you'll be... We'll fuck you up. People will just start pouring beer on you. But you could be dressed however, and if you just said like, I like those chaps, no one would even blink an eye. Really? They would just go, all right, thanks, man. You could be dressed however, and if you just said like, I like those chaps, no one would even blink an eye.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Really? Yeah. They would just go, all right, thanks, man. But the nature of chaps is that it is impossible for them to contain an ass. Right. Then it's just leather pants. Because they just go over the legs. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:57 So that is an annoying one where people go, put on some assless chaps. I love that. Yeah. It's redundant. It's a double redundancy. some assless chaps redundant yeah it's redundant it's it's a double redundancy the here's a real thing that i don't know that necessarily a myth but i think scientifically we again have misconceptions about it when uh women are pregnant and they have all those weird food cravings yes there's a tendency to be like oh yeah pregnancy all those hormones right but really what's
Starting point is 00:11:19 happening and this happens in all mammals when they are pregnant is the olfactory sense, your ability to smell your offspring is connected to a certain grouping of neurons. And your brain goes through this neural regenesis where all of those cells are brand new. But in the process of building them, it's sort of like the construction workers kind of mess up the plans a little bit. So as it's happening, you're getting all these weird signals. So women are like like i want ice cream now pickles now coffee grounds and all this weird so it's less about hormones it's more that uh the olfactory sense super senses my wife is uh we're giving birth in six days she's i'm not doing uh anything other than congratulations not to faint uh faint. Get the fainting couch ready. Like, her sense of smell is so, like, extra sensitive right now that she, it's, like, problematic.
Starting point is 00:12:12 She's just like, I can't deal with this. Like, when we're driving, she usually gets car sick, but now especially so just because, like, we'll drive past something that smells bad. It's like, it is like a super powered sense. She has a brand new set of cells that are connected to her ability to smell. Yeah. And cells for smell. Yeah. Her smell cells are brand-new.
Starting point is 00:12:33 And I think that makes sense like in an earlier time when you'd have to smell your offspring or smell like if they had maybe an infection or something. Yeah. Theoretically, you could be like, oh, something's wrong here. Yeah. So that's what's going on there. That is – I don't know if that's a myth necessarily, but. Yeah. That's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:48 See, I don't know anything about this stuff. Yeah. I think there's also a thing where there's a certain point, whether it's, I don't know if it's when they're pregnant or when they're ovulating or when they're menstruating, but at some point in women's reproductive cycle, they are extra good at spotting snakes. Like when they're, they can just, yeah. Hi, welcome to our new show,
Starting point is 00:13:12 Men Talking About Women's Reproductive Cycles. But it's really weird because I must have been like ovulating or menstruating at some point because I went hiking in Malibu with my wife and like a couple other friends. And I was just able to spot these rattlesnakes like out of nowhere. They were like, wait, how did you see that? some point because i went hiking in malibu with my wife and like a couple other friends and i was just able to spot these rattlesnakes like out of nowhere they were like wait how did you see that i swear to god it was the weirdest thing i like suddenly had the super ability to spot rattles
Starting point is 00:13:34 but i thought you said this is a thing for women it is but like i you're saying by randomly had it one day no you can't you can't ask, especially a stranger, but even like someone comes over to your house and looks as if they might be with child. You can never ask. Right. But now maybe you could say, are you seeing snakes? Snake test. Snake test. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:57 All right. I now sound completely crazy. You could send out like a birth announcement and say, she's seeing snakes. The lady is seeing snakes. All right. That's actually how movies should reveal that someone's pregnant
Starting point is 00:14:11 instead of like throwing up like they do now. What was that? Every time a woman throws up in a movie or touches her stomach, it means she's pregnant. The videos where like
Starting point is 00:14:21 grandparents find out they're going to be grandparents and like, oh my God, we're going to be grandparents. But this time, my God, we're going to be grandparents. But this time it's just like sunglasses with snakes on the ones. All right. Let's get into the stories of the moment.
Starting point is 00:14:37 We are coming off of the long weekend, the Black Panther weekend, as we're referring to it, as opposed to President's Day weekend. I did not spend my day in reflection of the presidency because that would have caused me to have heart palpitations. Instead, I saw Black Panther, as did a lot of the country. Panther, as did a lot of the country. It is currently the third, has had the third all-time biggest opening just in the history of movies. This is weird because it's a February weekend. Based on that, you can tell that Disney and Marvel did not see it coming because people don't put their monster movies in February.
Starting point is 00:15:25 February is supposed to be sort of a dead zone. It beat the previous record for biggest domestic box office opening in February by $69 million. That was Deadpool last year, which they didn't think was going to be as big a hit as it was. But apparently they didn't see Black Panther being quite this big because it is a monster. And Breitbart is pissed, you guys. What? Actually, they're not pissed. So I think they're trolling people.
Starting point is 00:15:58 They wrote a relatively glowing review of the movie in which they claimed that challah the black panther challah excuse you my man uh they claim that he is representing trump and that like the everything about his worldview is you know maps to the mega movement and then uh Killmonger. Did I pronounce that correctly? Killmonger? Yes. Killmonger. He is the Black Lives Matter movement. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. So it's just kind of – Wait. So how do they say that T'Challa is anything like Trump? Like what is the logic? Let's not get too much into the plot because I went to see it and it was sold out. Oh, really? Yeah. We ended up seeing and it was sold out. Oh, really? Yeah, we ended up seeing Call Me By Your Name.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Oh, very different. Would you like some apricots? Right. You mean kumquats. Guys, what's going on? Kumquat. He's checked in. Welcome to toxic masculinity.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Right. Yeah, okay, without spoilers. It's because of the protectionism and like nationalism oh because he's like about wakanda that they're like something's about america apparently they only watched the first half because like that's only his point of view like he goes through a change as a character and goes from this point of view they're ascribing to him to the opposite point of view of that they're saying the bad guy has and represents the Black Lives Matter movement.
Starting point is 00:17:28 It's just it's a desperate attempt to sort of insinuate themselves into this cultural moment. Right. The other way that, you know, people who are anti-progress are trying to insinuate themselves into the movie is claiming the movie is racist. They there were fake reports that white people were being assaulted at screenings of Black Panther that we talked about on Friday. No, no, no. Got completely debunked. But, yeah, it's just it's embarrassing. You have to be sort of embarrassed for them because they haven't had you know, they had a big cultural moment when Trump was elected.
Starting point is 00:18:09 But that's not a long lasting cultural contribution. Like they really haven't had a lasting pop culture contribution since birth of a nation. It's been a while for them yeah i know if you're if you're one of their big supporters right now and you only admire artists who also like subscribe to that it's kid rock and ted newton it's such a terrible battle it's not it's not the party you want to go to right which makes sense why you troll it because i would be salty too if those are like you know i got a cape for these people and i have to somehow find a way to bring people's joy down about black panther look man it's doing very well it's got great critical reviews and i think you
Starting point is 00:18:58 know people just need to let us have that you know because people weren't out there picketing for fucking harry potter right you know what i mean Or trying to say this or that. I mean, like, look, this – Actually, they were. Yeah, religious people. Yeah, religious people thought it was black magic and – I mean, like, from a strictly racial standpoint, right? Like, where people say, oh, it's racist. I mean, it's racist for other reasons.
Starting point is 00:19:16 But, yes, again, you know, just let us have this. You know what I mean? We'll go back to regularly scheduled programming where white people will dominate everything. have this you know i mean we'll go back to regularly scheduled programming where white people will dominate everything so i but maybe this is like everyone gets to have everything and there is always a small group that hates whatever they're probably people that hated the batmans probably people that yeah you know anything that's huge like this hated deadpool because of sure well they're even black people who are even saying this movie is not black enough or saying that it's problematic because they're like you know for african americans
Starting point is 00:19:45 playing that africans yeah or even people trying to like i know there were like african people trying to throw shade at african americans for wearing like dashikis and things like that and just saying like don't play dress up if you know what are you going to do after this movie comes out yeah like how how about it are you after that we certainly live in an age where it is virtually impossible now for something to just skate through and everyone go, yep, that was good. There's for sure going to be some sort of – but everything's sparking outrage. Everything's creating outrage. There are no modern-day The Fugitives where people are just like, yeah, that was fun.
Starting point is 00:20:17 All right. And moving on. Right. We just can't have The Fugitive these days. I think if there was a cool white guy to go along with him, then they would have been like, okay, cool. But I think because it was so – Because it was Tim from The Office. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Or with the fugitive. I mean when he bails out off the dam, there was probably a number of – there was probably forums dedicated to it, and there certainly was a blog that was like, the force of that water, and here's the – he would have – Of course, yeah. But it just didn't get the exposure it does now. Yeah yeah and i think maybe that's even wrong to even say that there is that much outrage because if you really think about it over like if you just distill this whole weekend down to one thing it's just how great black panther was right all this other stuff really is not doing much to yeah affect people's realities but yeah no for sure. It's definitely just a glorious cultural moment for a lot of people, and we shouldn't let that distract us. There's also lot of modern culture is like you know the hot take machine coming and uh this is actually you know people are writing really interesting
Starting point is 00:21:33 articles that people should check out like jelani cobb from the new yorker wrote an interesting article about how this movie sort of exists on the hyphen between af and American and sort of that the relationship between those two things that I hadn't really heard people talk that much about. It was really. Yeah, well, I think one thing, you know, for being African American, like we don't have a idea of what African culture we truly have because of the slave trade, know like so this sort of nebulous sort of abstract idea of africa and wakanda is very easy to get behind because it's not like people are over here like i can say oh i'm nigerian or i'm ghanaian or whatever right but wakanda sort of offers this sort of more nebulous idea of it that it's very easy to grasp onto or it's magical because i think
Starting point is 00:22:22 already a lot of people especially me like growing up i i had a very bizarre understanding of africa to like had gone there but this sort of i don't know i i really enjoy how much excitement that it's giving people especially to sort of look back and like okay there is there is this connection to africa sure wakanda isn't technically it uh because it's fake but at the very least it it's having people sort of reengage with the idea of having an identity that's sort of separate from just being African-American and understanding that, you know, we all came from Africa at some point. Yeah, that's kind of what Jelani Cobb ends up writing about how, you know, yes, Wakanda is fake, but so is the version of Africa that we've been getting in Western literature for years of like the quote dark continent where it's like completely without history. Right. So they're reclaiming, you know, Ryan Coogler and the filmmakers are reclaiming Africa and African history by creating like a counter narrative.
Starting point is 00:23:18 That's yes, fictional, but it's just as fictional as the one that has been ascribed to Africa. Yeah. So everybody, you know, if you really, if you really liked Black Panther and you're all about Africa, hey, go to The Real Thing because let me tell you, man, you got inspired by that movie. There was nothing more eye-opening than actually going to Africa for me. My mom is from – she was born in Sioux City, Iowa, and there is a lake Wakanda there. And I'd also recommend going and checking that out. It's Iowa. It's a little different.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I think there is also a country club in ohio or something that was people were getting like we're like spamming them with phone calls because it was like wakanda country club oh really yeah there are a few wakandas spelling is slightly different but wakanda does exist all right we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back uh just two of my favorite bits of all time, Fergie's national anthem and the skier who gamed the Olympics. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
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Starting point is 00:27:51 a way to disagree and still be in a relationship with each other. All that on the Happiness Lab. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And we're back. So, NBA All-Star game was this weekend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:18 How did you like the game? I actually didn't watch the game because it was not during one of our tv breaks we did we did watch the uh the dunk contest the night before with my son and we set up his little uh like nerf hoop next to the basket and he was like so into it like ball is one of his favorite words right now his life yeah and he's he was just like i was picking him up and doing crazy did he have like swag was he rocking the cradle and like windmilling oh shit no no i'm like we gotta sign him no i was i really liked the the dunk just shout out to larry nance jr for uh respecting his father who had an epic slam dunk contest against michael jordan so seeing him do the same sort of rock in the cradle side windmill have you ever tried that dunk? Did you ever like lower a hoop?
Starting point is 00:29:05 Oh, all the time. It was my whole life as a kid was finding hoops. We'd sneak into playgrounds where they had the low like little kid hoops. Yeah. And then any friend of mine that had like, oh my God, you can put a broomstick up there and like lower the hoop down. Yeah. And that is the hardest dunk. The rock in the cradle.
Starting point is 00:29:21 To be up in the air and pull it back and then around like that. It's a reverse windmill yeah well and also like so we used to do that we call it slam ball uh where you bring the hoops down about seven or eight feet and just everyone's dunking on each other like the greatest past time of freshman year of high school yeah uh but yeah i think the only time to do anything like that it had to be like one of those small balls like inevitably like a notre dame ball that you won at a carnival for making those free throws. Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:29:47 They were all Notre Dame. Yeah, Notre Dame or Michigan were the only two printed basketballs you could get back then. Blue and yellow. Yeah, so that was really cool. Donovan Mitchell won. He's the rookie. People are saying he should be the rookie of the year, but obviously it should be Ben Simmons. He should be the rookie of the year, but obviously it should be Ben Simmons. One of my favorite dunks was by the dude who didn't even make it out of the top four, Dennis Smith Jr. from Dallas.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah, he did like sort of a reverse 360. It took him like three times to get right, but it was pretty awesome. It was like unlike anything I'd seen before. But anyways, we got to the game, and I missed the game. I still have it recorded. I probably won't watch it. Wow. You didn't have to tell her. That's impressive.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I don't care, NBA. Okay. Nice try. But Fergie opened things up with a rendition of the national anthem. We're going to listen to a little snippet of it. But it was, in my opinion, inspired, but a lot of people had a problem with it. That a flag was still there. Oh, say, does that star-
Starting point is 00:30:58 Here's the big part. Take them home, Fergie. Take them home, Fergie. This is when everyone's laughing. Yeah, this is when they're showing all the players and they can't keep a straight face. Mmm. Mmm. And the home of the brave Oh, right. I thought that was inspire your red.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Let's play some basketball, huh? When I was a kid, that was what I associated with being the national anthem is tons of extra notes. Right. I think the Simpsons did an episode once where, like, a person starts singing and there's, like, a time lapse. And by the end of the song, everyone's asleep. Yeah. I feel like that was what the old controversies used to be like just get through the song remember you had a showcase just sing the damn song right
Starting point is 00:32:10 and i think the point this time is she added like sort of a jazzy vibe that was like and you know some sexiness where she was making love to the camera and the microphone and the flag and just american history yeah but you to be able to sing. Sing fine. It was pitchy. For me, dog. Oh, dog. Hey, dog.
Starting point is 00:32:30 For me, that was a little pitchy, dog. I don't know. The melisma. Could have done without that, too. It was a very melismatic performance. Especially when you went, yo-ro-ro-ro-yeah. Yeah, hey, yeah. Ba-no-ro-ro.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah, hey, yeah. I mean, yesro-ro. Yeah, hey, yeah. I mean, yes, I think it's commendable that you're trying something, right? And I'm all for your artistic license, and I don't really begrudge her for trying that. Yeah. But you also got to know, the NBA is one of the most active leagues in terms of social media. Right. You're going to get grunt.
Starting point is 00:33:00 You don't take risks there because, I mean, we will come after you. And collectively, Twitter, I can't even – the amount of memes that happened within 15 minutes of her ending the national anthem was mind-blowing. Yeah. But, yes, I think, you know, good for her. Yes. But it was fucking terrible. It's going to have this intersection of reverence for the Department of Defense and this seriousness of thinking. But then you're also going to bring in art, which has a large spectrum of subjectivity. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:33 That's going to be a risky run. You might as well just play the same recording over and over if you want it to be sterile. Right. I think she just sort of went out of her wheelhouse in terms of like a vocalist. She doesn't sing in that style often. She's not a jazzy lounge singer type where because even like whitney when she did the most one of the most iconic versions of it she just played to her strength right and just blew it out i would always love i will always love you yes yes people really shit on the marvin gaye one but now people
Starting point is 00:33:58 look back on that like that's one of the best ever and i think think we're going to do the same with this. So moving on. You're going to be telling your yet to be born child about, I remember you just about to be born and Fergie changed America. I mean, it did bring America together. Everybody like try and imagine another news story that can bring America together about the national anthem. Like that has not been possible for at least a year. So right on Fergie.
Starting point is 00:34:29 It was great. Like the player reactions, everybody was like doing an okay job holding it together. And then she had that last run where she broke banner yet wave into like 13 syllables and Draymond Green just like lost it. No one didn't laugh. I mean, Jimmy Kimmel almost looked like there was a camera on him and you could almost tell he was like, yo, And Draymond Green just lost it. No one didn't laugh inappropriately. I mean, Jimmy Kimmel almost looked like there was a camera on him, and you could almost tell he was like,
Starting point is 00:34:52 yo, don't put me on a camera, you assholes, because you're looking at me to laugh. Chance the Rapper had to put his head down and laugh to himself. So, I mean, that's not a good look when other musicians are laughing at that. You know what I mean? I also think they were kind of enjoying the fact that she was clearly going for it you know there was like a so what do you mean by going for it that just taking a risk that she had a horribly backfire she had an artistic vision okay and she executed it extremely confidently she when she finished that and said let's play basketball she was like a plus killed it yes uh you can send the flowers to my dressing room that's how she should feel and the fact that she apologized is such horseshit i know yeah she shouldn't apologize
Starting point is 00:35:31 you know and her her apology made me feel sorry for her because it was like sorry i tried my best i've always been honored and proud to perform the national anthem and last night i wanted to try something special for the NBA. I'm a risk taker artistically, but clearly this rendition didn't strike the intended tone. I love this country and honestly tried my best. Yeah. Good for you, Fergie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:56 That's all we can ask. See, that's why I'm like – And she acknowledged straight up right there. She was like, clearly this didn't work. I thought it worked. It did not. If it was looked at as she didn't respect the national anthem, then the players went out and respected the hell out of the game. They played full tilt as hard as they could. It's a silly game.
Starting point is 00:36:16 It's a funny, silly thing. I think it's just the great American pastime, though, is micro analysis of people's national anthem scenes. Moments where everybody knows people are watching you have to put an event together and you have to choose kid established singer instrumentalist right you go with right right or or like some someone with a really heroic backstory right speaking of micro uh moments that everybody analyzed this isn't on our outline, but I'm just curious. You doing some jazz right now? I'm just doing some jack jazz. Yeah, you got to row, row.
Starting point is 00:36:49 So is Katie Couric not on the Winter Olympics because of that one Netherlands thing she said about them ice skating? Oh, is she off now? It's all Mike Tirico all the time. I haven't seen her since the opening ceremonies. And that was a big story in the lead up that she was going instead of Megan Kelly, Megan Kelly wasn't getting to go. And then they've just given us Mike Tirico the whole time.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And everybody I asked, they're like, Oh yeah, she said that thing about the Netherlands. That didn't seem like that big a deal. Oh, well, I don't even know what she said.
Starting point is 00:37:16 She said that the Netherlands, the people in Amsterdam, the canals freeze over and they ice skate to work on them. And that's why they're good at speed skating, which is just like, not true. Like everyone's like, that's dumb. And were a few dutch listeners who point out that yes you can skate places so we're not saying that that was impossible but pointing to that as the only reason why the dutch are good at speed skating is a is fucking wild but it seems like
Starting point is 00:37:39 it's just a a thing where everybody was watching the opening ceremonies that's like the one thing from the olymp Olympics everybody watches. And she said a stupid thing. And because things get like overanalyzed so much, that might be what's keeping her off the Olympics. Well, it's interesting because when I just searched Katie Couric Olympics, the last story was her apologizing. Right. For implication. And they were just like, get the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:38:02 So I guess maybe what they did was the subtle thing where it's like okay you're gonna apologize and we're gonna shadow fire you right and so we don't we're not gonna announce that you're gone but it's people like you who notice now like oh where katie kirk because i didn't even notice because i'm watching mostly like on the app where i'm just watching the events i want bob costas's pink eye back yeah oh that was beautiful mike trico yeah It's just a strange, like Mike Trico is not a household name, but they, he is their like anchor who they go back to.
Starting point is 00:38:31 We paid him a ton of money to get him away from ESPN. Yeah. They got to use it. And they have Fred Rogan from the local NBC affiliate in LA, our sports guy. He's doing the national. Yeah. So it seems like they were skimming for a lot of whoever,
Starting point is 00:38:44 not to say that he's – Maybe they just saw the ratings were kind of lower than they expected and cut their losses early. Maybe. I mean considering the guy who did the Koreans can look up to Japanese people comment was just a dude who was in meetings that they're like, hey, man, you want to go on air? So I don't know if that's – You know a lot about business. Damn, you panic read a Wikipedia article before this meeting. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:05 All right. So we also want to talk about the Winter Olympics from the point of view of the skier who gamed the system. Gamed or didn't game, depending on your – Or didn't game. Oh, she gamed it. Earned her spot on the Olympic stage to do what is either my favorite bit ever or like a just display of mental illness we're not totally sure in here had done that we would still be laughing yes that's the greatest thing right she went she tried to kickstart or go fund me it got zero dollars
Starting point is 00:39:39 to pay for her ability to go around the world because you have to qualify in a number of things in the top 30. Yeah. Right. She did that just by sometimes just riding down, never trying a trick, and some other girls would fall. Right. But sometimes there wouldn't even be 30 competitors. There has never been 30 competitors. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:39:55 Yeah. The most she was ever in, there were 28 people. So by default, if she just makes it without falling, you are placing. So just to touch on this, we're talking about Elizabeth Sweeney, who is an American who was competing for Hungary in the skiing halfpipe event. And, yes, she went down so unenergetically. I've never seen someone drop into a halfpipe with less life. And she fist bumps her coach and kind of pumps up like, here we go. And then snow plows down a ways and gently dives into it and just rides it like she's going on a saucer. It looks like it's a ride.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Or like anyone who is in this room who may be proficient as a skier but is like, yo, I'm not fucking around with that half pipe. I'm like, I'll go but I'm going to do my version. That's what she did. And yeah, then people say, well, how did she get in there? So the rules are to get in, you have to compete in – regularly compete in these World Cup halfpipe events and be in the – and consistently place in the top 30. So she found out there's never even 30 people competing. So by default, I will always be in the top 30. If I just finish the race. If I just finish because then if you don't fall, you don't get any deductions.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Right. You can at least maintain a score where if someone who falls, they're fucked and you can still kind of get to that point. And she apparently was competing for Venezuela before she switched to Hungary like two years ago. Yeah. She ran for governor against Arnold Schwarzenegger long ago. Yeah. She's a megalomaniac. She's a psychopath.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Oh, she did? She legitimately did. She is going to be the next like sort of gone girl crazy story. Right. And I think just not because she did this but at the end like we were talking about before on air when she waves at the camera right that's such a psychotic move yep i did it yeah hey everybody a lot of people like this is inspiring and to me i was saying this before is like she's the dunning kruger effect personified on the other side where
Starting point is 00:41:40 you have you greatly overestimate your own ability what is the dunning krkruger effect that's where people who have a certain it happens to creative people and uncreative people it's like the soundcloud rapper effect as what i would call it is some people have innate skill but they actually sort of like imposter syndrome where they believe oh i'm not good at this right and they sort of retreat into themselves and they might not try as many things because they don't actually believe in the innate talent that they have the other side of that coin is people who think that their ability is much more than it is. And it gives them like this sort of unstoppable resolve to keep doing whatever it is that they're doing despite what anyone says. What's it called again?
Starting point is 00:42:16 The Dunning-Kruger effect. That's so right on. That's everything. That's all society. Yeah, it's really everything. Just so I don't get flamed by all the psychology experts out there, I'll just read the definition so you can be clout on this. So it's a cognitive bias where people of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is. They know so little.
Starting point is 00:42:38 They don't know enough to realize they're terrible. It's beautiful. And then people who are actually good at the thing or know a lot about the sport or the academic focus or music. You've listened to everything, the history of music, and you're so uncertain of how do I do anything that's original, then they just never do it. Someone else has never played, never listened to music, just get up there and be like, this is good, right?
Starting point is 00:43:04 I'm the best. This is amazing. And I'm sure with people going like, oh, my God, you're great there and be like, this is good, right? I'm the best. This is amazing. And I'm sure with people going like, oh my god, you're great, you're great, you're great, you're great. You're encouraged to mediocrity. What were her phone calls like after she went to Venezuela and just managed to stay on her feet? Like, hey sweetie, how'd it go? Like, well, two girls crashed
Starting point is 00:43:19 so I got 13th out of 15. Hey, way to go! Nice! All right, honey, great. But yeah, so all of her quotes afterwards were like, yeah, I just want to be an inspiration for people in South and Central America, which is weird because she's from the United States. You too can work your ass off to get out there and be dead last in anything you set your mark to. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Yeah. So I guess it's just mental illness or. Yeah. But look, so she could be doing a bit like you like to think. I want to believe it's a bit. And she's just as good as Stephen Colbert at like not breaking. Like she just has been able to not break and say the perfectly insane thing at every moment. Right. That that's where that's the reality i choose to exist in right if there's a documentary and this is like the next borat i'm into it right oh yeah it's her checking into every she had to see some familiar faces of people like it yeah again right what the fuck i'm i train
Starting point is 00:44:15 my whole goddamn life you you play slash is the last thing i say and now you're sitting next to me at the olympics right you've never even peeked out of the top of the pipe your knees do not leave the snow. Yeah. People, if you haven't seen it, like you really need to go watch it right now because she's just the right amount of perfectly mediocre at skiing that like it's perfect. It wouldn't be as funny if she was any worse or any better at skiing, but she's just the right amount. She does that little 180.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Yeah. At the very end. It's so good. It's so perfect. Yeah. i guess when you couple all of this like it is hard to see this as a bit because it sounds like you had the audacity to ask for a kickstarter right after you finished that qualifying run and said you were really disappointed you didn't get into the final i'm sorry how right and then also like there are a
Starting point is 00:45:01 lot of people who were like oh this inspiration but a lot of the people are really pissed especially other other Olympians who won't comment until after the Olympics because they don't want to like drag her down publicly while they're competing because there are people who really take this seriously. Right. And clearly she's found a loophole just to make it there. The best, though, is the announcers are incapable of referencing how silly it is. Yeah. So they're – well, she's taking it a little bit steady here and she's going to be a little conservative. They never crack.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Oh, showing the judges there, she's got a little bit of style to her. Wow. So she can stand upright. And then the reaction shot of the South Korean fans who are just like, their hands are poised to pre-clap because they've clapped for everybody who's finished, but they don't know quite yet if they should or what they've clapped for everybody who's finished but they like can't they don't know quite yet if they should or like what they've just witnessed and it's crazy too because it has all visually it follows all the tropes of like an olympic downhill event where then they come down triumphantly at
Starting point is 00:45:54 the end stop towards like the signage and then wait for their score right and you just saw that and you're like bro ain't no fucking score gonna so why there's not even that moment where you're like oh what's gonna happen you're like that oh, what's going to happen? You're like, that was bullshit. And she's still like, all right. That was all right. That was something else. Yeah. Like, come on.
Starting point is 00:46:10 If it is a bit, she's a genius. And most people have probably seen it by now. There's a companion video that Miles found that is her training video. That's like a montage of her doing – like she's like ice skating or roller skating and trying to do tricks. Yeah. But it's like watching a five-year-old who, like, just learned to skate, kind of. Yo, anyone can make the training video. Just put your iPhone on slow motion video mode.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Right. And just roller blade and do a 180. But when you do the move, slow that down as if you're doing a fucking trick. Right. And then just do that with some, like, powerful EDM music. Right. And also, when you look at the cover photo of the training video, like maybe she does kind of have that, the crazy eyes. She's a psychopath.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah. So she went to Berkeley and Harvard. So she's like a. She's an overachiever. Yeah, an overachiever and probably like very privileged. And yeah. So it's interesting. So your diagnosis, psychopath. 100%. your your diagnosis psychopath 100 just from the
Starting point is 00:47:07 wave just comedic genius comedic gene okay so jack comedic genius david psychopath i'm gonna go with uh yeah psychopathic or at the very least immoral human who's just trying to feel good those two things aren't uh incompatible either and she could be a psychotic uh comedic genius. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah, only time will tell. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We just took up the whole second chunk with Fergie and the skier, but I have no regrets about that. We're going to take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:47:35 We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered there are crooks everywhere you look now the situation is desperate my name is Manuel Delia I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere
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Starting point is 00:49:05 Like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play.
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Starting point is 00:50:36 I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. With the help of Stanford psychologist Jamil Zaki. It's really tragic. If cynicism were a pill, it'd be a poison. We'll see that our fellow humans,
Starting point is 00:51:10 even those we disagree with, are more generous than we assume. My assumption, my feeling, my hunch is that a lot of us are actually looking for a way to disagree and still be in relationships with each other. All that on the Happiness Lab. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And we're back. And we wanted to talk about the story that our wonderful writer, Jam McNabb. Shout out to Jam, who is a new father. Shout out to all the young Canadian fathers out there.
Starting point is 00:51:53 All the young Canadian fathers. He brought this story to our attention last week. Yeah, and I'm glad he did. So I knew that there are gangs in Disneyland. So basically there are these people who go to Disneyland almost every day, and they started noticing each other, and they formed gangs. And it seemed like sort of – I had read articles about them where it was kind of – they had to imply all the similarities. Like they wear leather vests, and they were just like bikers. You patched in, man. just like bikers. Yeah. But it seemed like they were-
Starting point is 00:52:25 You patched in, man. You patched in. Right. It seemed like they were trying a little too hard to make them sound menacing. Yeah. Because let's be real. These are not gangstacks. These are social clubs.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Right. Social. With gang clothes. Is there an inherent silliness involved? There's got to be. There's got to be tongue in cheek gang warfare, right? Let's think of some of the names, like the Tigger Army. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Or what's the other one? The White Rabbits are the people who are now being sued. And Neverland Mermaids. So the guy filing the lawsuit is the, quote, president and battalion chief of the fictional fire station in Disneyland. Like on Main Street, when you walk into Disneyland, there's like a fire station. He claims to be the battalion chief of that fire station. You're talking about MSFS 55. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Main Street Fire Station 55. 55 Social Club. And that's a totally made up if you had to bet a million dollars one way or the other does this guy have a disney character tattooed on his calf the calf tattoo i wager everything yeah that's that's a tough guy tattoo yeah the disney calf tat because then when you go in the summer and you were in those shorts boy people will know oh they know i'm just wondering if it's a disney character on the calf or if it's the dave matthews fire dancer on the calf and then the disney character
Starting point is 00:53:50 like on the back maybe or like a whole tableau next to his coco pelly i bet he has you know what he has he probably has the badge for the downtown disney fire tattooed all over his heart right so because he's never off duty so anyways uh this is the victim of our story because uh after he put a charity fundraiser together at the park uh with uh you know his wife who is also part of this social club and the social club the white rabbits the sort of disney biker gang the white rabbits uh by the way these people like walk around in matching Disney biker gang, the White Rabbits. By the way, these people walk around in matching biker jackets and stuff. Or denim jackets. I feel like anyone who's gone to – I went to Disneyland recently at the beginning of the year,
Starting point is 00:54:32 and I realized – I actually didn't realize how organized these groups of people were. Not that I saw them specifically, but dressing up together thematically happens. So now to know that some of these people are in gangs right yeah very frightening right so they're all walking around in clusters dressed in like matching you know biker outfits but with disney patches all over them and when they run into each other they'll usually trade pins and like it's kind of a harmless thing because it's not an actual gang right is this like the best case scenario that could happen if you have a trust fund kid that goes nowhere to spend their money somehow? It's either that or become an Olympic skier.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Right. Yeah. It's completely protected. It's like he could go out in the real world and get himself stabbed in a knife fight in Mexico or he could go like have a fake biker gang that is just really devoted to Tigger. that is just really devoted to Tigger. And so after putting this charity fundraiser together, the White Rabbits, one of these social clubs, approached him and insisted that he pay them protection money.
Starting point is 00:55:34 That's fair. Pay him the damn money. So in the weeks leading up to the fundraiser, Jacob Fite and four other members of the social club called the White Rabbits approached him and demanded he pay them $500 in protection money for the event he was trying to hold there and he refused
Starting point is 00:55:56 because, I don't know, he wanted to bring down the wrath of the White Rabbits and he threatened to fight threatened to ruin him. And he started making T-shirts that called him and his wife a fraud and went on Disney gang podcasts and started talking shit about them, called them scammers and con artists. I'm sorry, Disney gang podcast?
Starting point is 00:56:20 Yeah. These sets have their own podcast? Yeah. Basically, soon as we are the official gang of Disneyland, this isney gang disney gang disney gang uh and they printed t-shirts with his face on it yeah you know street justice right uh so he is suing disney and the the white rabbits gang for you know damages you know it's funny the whole time you're kind of building this story up as if like some real gang should happen but really in the end the the protection money who knows what was asked and it ends with not broken legs physical assault it's like you're
Starting point is 00:56:55 a fraud and i'm gonna make t-shirts slandering you so i mean a credit to them because at least the gang problem hasn't gone out of control i wish it would have spiraled because I don't think there's ever been a recorded story of malicious gang activity at Disneyland. Oh, I wonder. Like fights between gangs. Right. I feel like the actual Disney cops would see the white rabbits come over and start messing with the Tigger army and be like, all right, guys.
Starting point is 00:57:18 All right, guys. Right. The fake Disney. They're like, hey, look at you. You guys are 35 plus, man. Acting like gang members. But so they threatened Sarno and told him he would never be able to visit the park
Starting point is 00:57:30 again, which is like probably the ultimate violence to do to him. Like threaten him that he can't go back to Disney. So I don't know. I hope they shank the White Rabbits. The stakes are high. And then he finally gets his Mickey Mouse teardrop tattoo underneath his eye. Right. I'm sure there are tattoos involved.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Could you imagine someone rocking the three like the Mickey Mouse teardrop tattoo underneath his eye. Right. I'm sure there are tattoos involved. Could you imagine someone rocking the three like the Mickey Mouse head as a fucking teardrop tattoo? I love it. Like he caught a body at the park where he's like, yeah homie, he's gonna body that dude during Fantasmic. Alright. Well, that is our show. David, it's been a pleasure
Starting point is 00:58:02 having you, man. Where can people find you? DavidHuntsberger.com. I have a podcast called The Space Cave. And then monthly, I do a variety show here in Los Angeles at the Copper Still called The Junk Show. There's usually some info about that on my Twitter or on my website. And on the Mother's Day show last year, this was before all the hoopla, my mom was the only mom there. Even though I had said, hey, bring your mom. There's like a two-for-one thing. Come on in.
Starting point is 00:58:30 And my mom was the only mom. And so I was like, oh, this is kind of a bummer. If you want to get a mom hug on Mother's Day, feel free to hug my mom. Wow. And so as the show ended, there was this small line of people. And I was saying goodbye to people. And I went to walk over to my mom. And someone was walking past me who had just hugged my mom it was chadwick boseman
Starting point is 00:58:50 and i was like whoa man really yeah he was like real nonchalant about it and i was like hey you're a good actor he's like oh thanks all right see ya love your mom all right you mother hugger uh that's really cool i know i should have asked him to bring um a sample of black panther to show and that would have been hilarious hey man you owe me something now my damn mom shit isn't free wow your mom was that's crazy that afterwards there was a line it's like i wonder the people were in the crowd like you know i'm gonna get one of those mom hugs because you know my mom was notoriously aloof right um and you're doing a mother's day show again yeah it's the second sunday of every month so um the four-year anniversary shows in april the next one's on
Starting point is 00:59:35 march 11th if you happen to be in los angeles yeah man we aim for that every year aim for it ever amber really is the color of all of our energy, guys. It really is. I don't know what that means. Miles, where can people find that color? Fuck, man. Whoa. Amber is the color of your energy. Oh, what was the question?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Oh, me? Social media? Yes. Hi. Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey if you are so interested. You can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily
Starting point is 01:00:07 Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page. You can find us on our website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post each episode and our footnotes. We link off to all the sources for the stuff we talked about today. Nice. You nailed it. And please rate and review
Starting point is 01:00:24 us or don't. We don't care. We're cool. No, no. We care. I care. Don't You nailed it. And please rate and review us or don't. We don't care. We're cool. No, no. We care. I care. I care. Don't listen to him.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I care and I need it. I don't sleep at night unless we have good ratings. I do lose sleep. So please just give us good ratings. And that's going to do it for us for today. Miles, do you have any music you'd like us to wrap up on? I mean, yes. We're going to go out on Amber by 311. Because shout out to one of the greatest bands out of Omaha, Nebraska.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Which is another thing people probably don't realize. 311 is from Omaha. But yes, Amber. In the frame. I mean, listen even to the harmonies and the chorus. Amber is the color of your energy. All right. We will ride out on that.
Starting point is 01:01:03 And we'll be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast talk to you guys then bye bye Rainstorm, take me away from the norm I got to tell you something This phenomenon I had to put it in a song and it goes like Whoa, amber is the color of your energy. Whoa, shades of gold is playing naturally.
Starting point is 01:01:54 You want to know what brings me here. Fly through my headlines of fear. And I know I. Whoa. Hammer is the color of your energy. Whoa. Shades of gold is played naturally. Thank you. You live too far away Your voice rings like a bell anyway
Starting point is 01:03:11 Don't give up your independence Unless it feels so right Nothing could come easily Sometimes you've got to fight Whoa The camera is the color of your energy Whoa Shades of gold displayed naturally
Starting point is 01:03:35 Lost a thousand chips in my heart So easy Still this mind from afar And you know that Whoa Rainstorm Take me away from the north Whoa
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