The Daily Zeitgeist - Gator Patrol, Don’t Lie To Kids? 10.3.19

Episode Date: October 3, 2019

In episode 487, Jack and Miles are joined by Bechdel Cast co-host Jamie Loftus to discuss Trump's alligator moat idea, update on the whistleblower story, Trump's boast of annual growth, Bernie Sanders taking a health break, the sentencing of Amber Guyger, the most realistic psychopaths in portrayed in films, how lying to your kids can make them liars, declaring war on baby boomers, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Shoot Migrants’ Legs, Build Alligator Moat: Behind Trump’s Ideas for Border2. Trump: Democrats wasting time on 'bulls---' with impeachment inquiry3. WATCH: LeBron James says the Heat will win 7 titles4. Opinion: What ever happened to Trump’s boast of 4%, 5% or even 6% growth?5. Bernie Sanders Undergoes Procedure for Artery Blockage, Cancels Campaign Events6. Amber Guyger's offensive text messages are introduced at her sentencing7. Psychiatrists studied 400 movies to find the most realistic psychopath — here are their 6 key takeaways8. Psychopathy and the Cinema: Fact or Fiction?9. Joaquin Phoenix Walks Out Of Interview When Asked About Graphic Violence In 'Joker'10. Children told lies by parents subsequently lie more as adults, face adjustment difficulty11. Florida Boomer Caught on Video Cutting Brake Lines of Public E-Scooters12. WATCH: Washed Out - Floating By Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I can feel my brain get shot with rays. The Russians have shit that's strong enough. Oh. Oswald didn't get shot. Fuck. Oswald didn't shoot JFK from above. It was the Secret Service.

Miles Gray. I'm telling you, man, this shit is nuts. Oh. That is courtesy of Crispy Mean Donut. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Impeachment comes from the Nan. See Pelosi and her fans. And inquiry's going down.

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Please clap. Thank you again to another exacta from Crispy Meme Donuts. What was your song? Christy Yamaguchi, man. That was Peaches by the President of the United States

of America. Oh, wow. Yeah, I don't know that one. Deep cut. I only know Lump by them. Dude, that was like their other one that everyone loved

because moving through the country gonna eat a lot of peaches. You don't remember that one? No, man. You didn't have that cassette tape? It's Lump. It's Lump. That. You don't remember that? No, man. You didn't have that cassette tape? It's lump. It's lump. That one

I can't not remember. It's gum. Actually. Is it? No, that was the Weird Al version of it. You don't remember that? He did a whole video called It's Gum. I had a period where I thought I was too cool for Weird Al. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I came back to Earth. I like

Weird Al, but I don't like how many, like, boys in middle school were like, you don't listen to Weird Al. So I was, like, very late to Weird Al because they're like,

what do you mean you don't listen to Weird Al? It's just like, you know, when enough shitty people recommend something to you. Yeah, I was the same way with, like,

Danny McBride stuff where there's, like, all these fucking losers in college who are like, oh, I don't want you down to town. Who are into it for the wrong reasons. And now you're fully gemstoned. Rasping at you. Now I am a member of the gemstone. Now you are actually, well, who are you?

Well, I think that honestly me and my boyfriend occasionally have some Judy BJ energy going on. That is the greatest couple. me and my boyfriend occasionally have some Judy BJ energy going on. That is the greatest couple. One of my favorite couples of all in the history of fiction. You changed since you started singing and dancing at church. So fucking great.

Shit. Well, that voice you hear in our third seat is the one, the only, the number one face on Mount Zitmore. Maybe we should just make a Jefferson Zitmoreal that's just Jamie Loftus. Well, okay. You're thinking of Lincoln. You did the arm pose of Lincoln.

Yeah, but people didn't need to hear that, Miles. Yeah, sure. We're thrilled to be joined by Jamie Loftus! Jamie, Jamie, Jamie, Jamie! Please don't cancel us even though you can. Your feet, they are

beyond compare. A five on wiki feet and there is no way we can become a swole sauce meme. Oh, that was great. Yo, that's going back into fucking canon right there. Swole sauce, Laszlo? Swole sauce.

That was, I appreciate. That was like two points. Laszlo? Laszlo, yeah. Was it Laszlo or Zazzlo? I think it was swole sauce Laszlo. Whatever it was. I'm pretty sure.

He's left my life. Hope you're doing well. Yeah, I hope the gym is treating you well. That's from Thomas Burnscully at Dr. Thomas DBS. That was great, Thomas. Thank you. Well done, sir. Or ma'am.

Jamie, it's great to have you here. How have you been? I've been good. Yeah? I've been very good. I'm excited. I brought a surprise today. What?

Well, it's my underrated. Oh, okay. I just have to clench until then. Oh, one thing. Uh-oh. I was like, it's inside of my bag. I've seen your live show. Oh, one thing I want to quickly point out.

Yesterday when we were talking about the Joker. I fucked up. Well, no, a listener pointed out a very interesting statistic to quickly point out yesterday when we were talking about the joker um i fucked up well no listener pointed out a very interesting statistic because i think this does get lost a lot in the topic of talking about like mass shootings and a lot of crimes that statistically only five percent of violent crimes in the u.s are committed by people with serious mental illness and i know like a lot of the discourse especially around mass shootings and things in the media there's always like a immediate sort of run to mental illness as an explanation. And, you know, I don't want, and we definitely don't want the

show to sort of perpetuate some kind of negative stereotype that all crime or crimes are disproportionately committed by people with mental illness, because truly what we're talking about is just people who are vulnerable rather than dangerous. So, you know, just going forward. Yeah, absolutely. We're checking our language. We don't want to be ableist. Overly represented both just because I think that's a common myth. It's like something people just assume is the explanation a lot of the time

and also because the NRA would like for it to be the explanation in a lot of cases. And it was really, I was thinking back on that of just like how pushed that narrative was, especially like around like 2012. I think there was like a couple of years where I believed that too, because it was so pushed. Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, look, God's working on all of us. So we're trying to do better day by day.

Well, Jamie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Trump wanting... He's Trump. He's Trump. Yeah. I think he's brain dead. His latest kind of five-year-old kindergarten drawing idea for saving the country.

We're going to blow that whistle. We are going to... Thank you, short dog. I do love that cue. It is fun. We're going to look at the fact Republicans do not seem to be fully acquainted with the current

scandal and some recent polling that is sort of surprising. We're going to ask the question, whatever happened to Trump's promise of 4% to 6% annual growth? It was right around the time that he took over. The economy was moving in the right direction.

He was like, and now for this tax cut, and it's going gonna really start rocking. I'm gonna read a quote from him where he says, that's when we're really gonna start to rock. Oh, nasty. We're gonna send out love to Bernie Sanders, who's having some health issues. Look at the trial of that Dallas cop who shot both of John and killed him while he was eating ice cream.

We're going to talk about a psychiatrist did a study of 400 movies and told us who is the most realistic psychopath. So we will let you guys know about that. Lying to your kids can make them liars, apparently, which I don't agree with. lying to your kids can make them liars, apparently, which I don't agree with. And I think it's time to declare a war on an entire generation. Wow. But which one?

Stay tuned. Yes. Actually, the silent generation. Oh, are they dead? Yeah. Wait, what's gen? That's why they're silent. That's right, bitch. They're fucking dead.

Which is the one? Is there a name for the kids that are being born right now? Oh, no. Jen A? They haven't done anything. Jen A. Jen A. Forrest Gump. A lot of Forrest Gump. Yeah. Wow, yeah. Dear God, please make me a bird. It's a hot Gump

Gump day. Hot Gump. Hot pile of Gump. Hey, we got hot Gump over here. Wait, you haven't seen Forrest Gump? No. Hot Gump. Hot pile of Gump. Hey, we got Hot Gump over here. Wait, you haven't seen Forrest Gump? No. Good for you. Thank you. Jamie.

Yes. First, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, I've been doing some really cursed searches. One was Billy Zane hat. Billy Zane's got a lot of hats. I was accidentally in a picture with him the other day. No.

Yes. What do you mean accidentally? It was, okay, so I was at the robot. Following him around. So it was an accident because usually I don't actually manage to get him in the picture. No, but I was at the robot chicken, like the new season just came out. And so I went to like the big event that they were doing. In which you wrote on.

In which I did write on. Please clap. So I was there and I brought my boyfriend, Isaac. BJ was with me. And we went and Isaac was being weird. And he's like, hey, go stand over there. I'll take your picture. And I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, go stand over there I'll take your picture and I was like what are you talking about he's like go stand

over there I'll take your picture Isaac this is so unlike you I was like what the fuck are you speaking to me with clenched teeth and then he's like you're making a scene but then he like walked really far away to take the picture and it's because Billy

Zane was nearby in a hat on the phone and so there's like this very bizarre picture of me and then like 15 feet away billy zane's on the phone and so i just wanted to see what kind of other hats he's got and then i've also been searching i was trying to find this uh radio segment that i used to work on in boston it's all my boston heads if you ever listen to the Carlson and McKenzie Morning Zoo radio show. Hell yeah.

They had this segment during the holidays called Ernie the Elf. And Ernie the Elf was my first comedy job ever. Really? Yeah. You wrote Ernie the Elf? I briefly in 2013 ghost wrote Ernie the Elf. Parents, if your kids are around, cover the area.

Please don't spoil the magic of Ernie the Elf. Ernie the Elf is naughty, naughty. Oh, yeah. He goes around and he says, you suck. It was really brilliant, inspired work. I was trying to find my old Ernie stuff and I couldn't find it. Couldn't find it? No, it was removed from the website.

You could probably contact the station, right? Yeah, but I'm just, do I want to be the person that's like, I ghost wrote Ernie the Elf six years ago, and I want to know what a bad job I did. I'll do it on your behalf. Yeah. Like, listen, I thought the 2013 round of Ernie the Elf was particularly strong.

I'm actually writing a book on Ernie the Elf, and I'm very curious. I need this for archival purposes. It was just one of the radio hosts with his voice pitched up two octaves saying, you suck. They're like, this is genius, Loptis. You suck? Oh, man.

Boston's Light Gang, if you guys remember Ernie the Elf, please reach out. Let us know. Or if you even might have recordings. Yeah. Maybe someone out there. If you've been dutifully documenting every Ernie appearance for the past 900 years, but I was trying to find my Ernie segments, no luck.

Shit. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated masked singer spoilers. Okay. I'm not going to spoil anything. I don't care. Wait, what? What did you say?

Masked singer spoilers. What is that? What? The masked singer, Miles. Oh, oh. The did you say? Masked Singer spoilers. What is that? What? The Masked Singer, Miles. Oh, oh. The Masked Singer. People give a fuck about that? You seem so wounded.

I really give a fuck about that. Oh, really? And I haven't had time to start watching. I liked that they showed nonstop Masked Singer promos during the Emmys, even though they weren't nominated. And they were just like, it's cool. It's cool. We actually are going to really start to shine in season two.

The masks get bigger. I related with that. We didn't get nominated, but you know what? We're just stronger than ever now. But someone spoiled the first week of The Masked Singer for me. I haven't gotten to watch the season premiere yet and someone told me who Egg was.

Oh, man. Can we do a quick spoiler and people who don't want to spoil spoil like well actually no never mind i was gonna say what in the show is are their voices changed or it's just basically a person singing with their regular voice just behind them you just don't know who they are like if you know the voice you could probably maybe if you knew if you were like a fan of someone that's the main flaw of the show is if they're a famous singer you can always tell. Tell who it is, right.

Always, always. Gladys Knight was on last season. She was the B. What? The whole time you're like, the B is Gladys Knight. She's not going to get kicked off. And the peacock was Donny Osmond

and it was so obvious. That's so strange that they had Donny Osmond and Gladys Knight going against NFL wide receiver Antonio Brown. I know. Also, this apparently made him a very horrible human being.

Oh no. Really? Yeah. He's gone in a very dark direction. Yeah. Is he even on an NFL team? Because he had a lot of sexual harassment shit going on. No, no. Sexual assault. Oh fuck. Jesus Christ. Very horrifying things. Leave the NFL alone.

After having an off season where he froze his feet to, he went into one of those hyperbaric chambers, and his feet were frozen, so they were super injured, and then he made it so that the Raiders didn't even want him on their team. The Raiders didn't even want him on their team. And he had been a pretty unremarkable off-field person prior to the Masked Singer, but he really let the mask go to his head. And the Masked Singer is not opposed to putting problematic people on stage because Jenny McCarthy is one of the judges, and so is Robin Thicke.

Oh, wow. It's a troubled Fox production. is one of the judges and so is Robin Thicke. Oh, wow. Wow. It's a troubled Fox production. But I will say that last season, do you guys know who won last season? T-Pain?

T-Pain. Oh, right. He beat Donny Osmond and it was a really exciting night for everybody. Yeah, because I had heard that even before Masked Singer

that he is actually secretly a great singer. He has a gorgeous voice who chooses not to use it. It's wild. Good for him. Yeah. So don't spoil The Masked Singer for people.

Yeah. It's already such a- Don't spoil season two. We did just spoil the shit out of season one. Yeah. I like someone who might go, you know what? I'm going to start this show.

Season one. Yeah. Classic. What is something that you think is underrated? Yes, okay. So what is underrated is this thing at CVS that I've been wanting for years. The pharmacy CVS? Yes.

Okay. Okay, so in 2017, I went to CVS, and I didn't have much disposable income two years ago. So I was walking around the Halloween aisle, as as you do and there was this little toy called twerking mummy and he was so cool i was like oh my god and then i was like oh it's 20 i can't really pay 20 for twerking mummy i'll get it next year and then next year came around no twerking mummies anywhere i was i was like fuck I should have just put twerking mummy on a credit card. Yeah, yeah. I was so mad at myself. And then last week, I was walking through CVS again, because I go every day, and twerking mummy was back.

I got him here. Let me see. What? I brought him. Look at him. His ass is so big. Wait, why is twerking mummy trying to look back at it, too? Twerking mummy is looking. So twerking mummy trying to look back at it too?

So twerking mummy is looking over. I'm pretty sure. Make that shit twerk. Make that shit clap. I'm pretty sure this is a Pitbull song. Let me know. Ready? Ready? Okay, here he goes.

Here he goes. We have. They really, it really does twerk. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's weird. it is strange you ever seen like a bee bee move its ass like that it looks like you see like a bee the lower half is just pulsating that's what it reminds me of it almost looks like a cat trying to throw up in fast motion oh wow i love it

so much um we do so glad you're able to the rights to all of Pitbull's catalogs. Oh, thank God. So that won't be a problem. I like that he has such a deep voice. I'm a fireball. Is that what it says? I'm a fireball? He says it at the beginning and the end.

All right. Go off, twerking mummy. I love twerking mummy. If you see one. What was that sort of moment like for you? You know, like let's pretend this is your inside the actor's studio. And when you bought twerking mummy,

what, what, what did you then realize about where you were in your career? I then realized that, you know, even if you do have the disposable income to get twerking mummy, it's still not going to feel good to bring it up to the register and say, you know what? I want to pay $20 to have this at my house.

I've been, it's, I don't know. Sometimes it'll just kind of go off though at night, which is kind of, it does go off. But last night it was like four in the morning and I have it like on the shelf above my bed, which I have to move it because it fell on my head last night. Oh, wow. What? Twerking Mummy's trying to kill you? Twerking Mummy torched off the shelf.

History is full of reports of haunted dolls. There's got to be an example of a haunted Big Mouth Billy Bass. I can't imagine a more cursed item than this, but I fell asleep watching 10 Cloverfield Lane, and then I woke up being impaled by twerking mummy. Oh. Rough night for me. I feel like on it, this sounds like a great short for you to write

where twerking mummy is actually trying to kill you. I wouldn't put it in this. I'd watch that. Thank you. Anyway. Thank you. I heard that twerking mummy chose you more than you chose twerking mummy.

Right, right, right. Is that true? Yeah, yeah. And the whole waiting for two years, I mean, that's just a part of the plant. That's like the notebook wrapped up in the orphan. There's so many dimensions to this. Yeah, cursed.

Cursed item. Fantastic. What is a myth? Oh, quick myth. You can't get horny for plant. You can't get horny for plant? Yeah, but you can get horny for plant. I'm just, I've been on a weird weird out of nowhere little shop of horrors kick.

Oh, okay. And out of nowhere, it's been popping up everywhere. There's a local production I'm going to see of it tonight. There were these clickbait headlines saying that Lady Gaga might be in a reboot of a little shop of horrors. I'm just on one. And, uh, yeah,

getting horny for the plant again. Just like when I was a young gal, did you get horny for plant? I did get horny for plant. Oh, I don't know. Something about the gaping mall. I don't know.

Right. Is a, you know, it's, it's basically the movie teeth. Right. What? Um,

I just know I've never seen it. I just know the, the, uh, poster Right. I just know, I've never seen it. I just know the poster. And in my mind, it was just about like a bad guy from Mario Brothers. Who voiced Plant in the movie? In the movie. Let me double check. Oh, that thing is just called Plant? No, it's called Tooey.

It's called Audrey 2. Audrey 2, that's right. And also that was, I mean, that was like a big Rick Moranis. Yes. Rick Moranis' lips. Of course. Rick Moranis' sweet lips. Now we get to the truth.

You love talking about people's lips. Because of Lips Moranis. Lips Moranis. Lips Moranis. It's really good in my defense. Let's see. What was his name? Oh, Levi Stubbs.

Levi Stubbs. Of course. Was the voice of Tooey. The great Levi Stubbs. Yes. Yeah.ey. The great Levi Stubbs. Yes. I don't think you guys realize this. Stubbs BBQ sauce. It's sold in grocery stores. Levi Stubbs. Really? No. I was like, what a legacy.

A regular Paul Newman. Right. What is... Oh, wait. Oh, he's a baritone singer? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What is, oh, wait. Oh, he's a baritone singer? Yeah. Oh, so the plant is singing and shit? Yeah.

The plant, I don't know. It's so ignorant. It's a very mask plant, but a very vaginal look. Yeah. That's true. Mask plant, vaginal look. Checks a lot of boxes. Oh, also played Mother Brain in the 1989 TV series Captain N, the Game Master.

Poe also played Mother Brain in the 1989 TV series Captain N, the Game Master. There's also a song I really like by Billy Bragg called Levi Stubbs' Tears. I don't know. I've been thinking. I don't know. Levi Stubbs. Big Levi Stubbs energy. It's funny that you brought up Little Shop of Horrors because the president had actually suggested that we put a bunch of the plants from Little Shop of Horrors on the border wall to eat people who tried to cross the border.

Oh, another whimsical proposal. No, that's not true. Because the real proposal was for gremlins. Right. Get some of those gremlins in the water. Put them in the water. And they'll be fucked up. Start popping off.

From a Bechdel cast standpoint, maybe know maybe little shop of horrors is is is not so great uh but oh is it not from a no pretty bad uh but from a from a musical standpoint is slaps and i'm going tonight hey you know it's about the art you know no but um i think wait we're talking about the president's great ideas right is that is that what you're alluding to? We might as well bring it up real quick. It's not worth a lot of talk. I mean, well, in a way.

Well, look, it sort of goes along with the pattern of like, why don't we nuke hurricanes? Yes. Or like, why don't we get a space force to fight our space wars? Or really, maybe if California did some raking, we wouldn't have forest fires. And this newest one, just another bomb shizzy from the New York tizzy from an upcoming book about literally, I think it's called Trump's Border Wars. And like in the look inside a lot of the talk around, you know, the tumultuous time and process.

Bombshell from the New York Times. Sorry, I just put it together. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, cool. and process. Bombshell from the New York Times. Sorry, I just put it together. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, cool.

And I'll just read this excerpt because it perfectly sums up what is going on in this man's brain. Privately, the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate.

He wanted the wall electrified with spikes on top that could pierce human flesh. After publicly suggesting that soldiers shoot migrants if they threw rocks, the president backed off when his staff told him that was illegal. But later in a meeting, aides recalled he suggested that they shoot migrants in the legs to slow them down. That's not allowed either, they told him. Right. And then today or yesterday when uh the president of finland was visiting they asked him about he's like i never i never said anything like

that why would i say that there there are tweets from around that time where he shares like drawings of the wall with spikes on top yeah yeah he's it's that was like well documented It's so odd of like yeah The childish way to be cruel Like it's just Kind of thinking like oh man if this was a movie It'd be cool You couldn't get a bunch of snakes Alligators Like basically a moat

Around the entire fucking United States Filled with animals What the It's a cartoon And again, you know, this is removing all the other shit aside, if you think these are good ideas from a president,

I mean, I think people have made their minds definitely at this point, but, you know, what you gonna do? It does distract from all the really awful things he does and, like, because it's sort of like adorable stupidity until he starts talking about shooting people.

But it's like childish stupidity. Well, yeah. And just like indulging the most morbid parts of your imagination to inflict pain and suffering on people. It's like, oh, you know, that's not enough. In his mind, is he just saying like, what'll happen? One migrant just gets fucking ripped up by a gator.

Then they'll know. Yeah, it's like a really base approach. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.

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I'm just curious. I'm sorry that we keep getting on this. Brought to us by, I think, the company Jemmy. Jemmy, of course. But who thought of this? Like, what? They go, twerking mummy, but, of course. But who thought of this? Like what? They go twerking mummy, but like weird. What is this like?

I love the, I'm just imagining. Combine music? I'm imagining the meeting where somebody just like walks in and puts this on the table. Doesn't even say a word, just presses it. I hope that there are others like me out there who were also upset in 2018 when twerking mummy didn't come back and then they're they're like apparently we have to make more there's no choice no my my guess would be that it was a popeye's chicken sandwich situation where they just like sold out of it so fast that they like couldn't couldn't even make enough for the following year oh you know

a shout out to um an instagram follower and Zeitgang member who spilled the tea on that Popeye's chicken sandwich in a DM to me. Really? Yes, 100%. I just want to say, yes, Alex Meowwood. I see you out there. She was saying her father works as a food scientist for the company that works on the breading. And they had been working around the clock since June, even because they thought it would be fine.

And then when all that shit ran out, they're like, oh, my God. Oh, really? Yeah, they had been fucking putting their nose to the grindstone to get that shit out. Just to get all of the sandwiches out? The projections were incorrect. I just want to point out Jemmy, the company that makes your beloved twerking mummy, as I do a little research, I'm looking at some of their other animated figures that they do. Do they do?

The first one, and I don't even want to know what the sound effects are because they don't tell you. But first one. Goody, Clap, and Witch. African American Santa with sound effects. Now, I don't know if it has problematic takes or whatever or terrible stereotypes, but who knows. They also make Big Head Jack Skellington. Okay, that's fine. Then they do some other ones, but they also have

Dance Boss Boo Banner Ghost, a Twerking Rabbit. They do a lot of twerking plushies. They just do twerking plushies? Is that their business? Dance Boss Santa. I mean, look, that's their bread and butter. Alright. Felice Naughty Dog.

Yes! I mean look that's their bread and butter so alright Felice Naughty Dog yes so fuck with Jemmy y'all Felice Naughty Dog I don't even know what's naughty

it's not even taking a shit or anything it just says oh it has a background on its neck that says I ate Santa's cookies

okay Felice Naughty Dog and shit all over the place yeah that's amazing on his neck that says, I ate Santa's cookies. Okay, Feliz Natty Dog. And shit all over the place. That's amazing. It's funny. Jemmy's writer's room is fucking great. Get me in there. Yeah, seriously.

Wild, like all their licensing, like Disney fucking, like official collabs, I guess. Hell yeah. And there's also a Pop and Lock Maracas reindeer. I don't know where. Pop and Lock Maracas. I don't know how you pop in and lock in with reindeers. Ass toys. Yeah.

Is that? Yeah. Ass toys. Well, is Pop and Locking an ass dance? No, man. Pop and Locking? Not at all. Foundations of hip hop.

Right. All right, guys. Let's talk about less important news from more important to less important. Let's blow that whistle. Oh, so let's check in. This is all this all goes back to Trump wanting the Russia story to not be true is that right yeah i mean i think right right now we are so focused on this idea of like this call with ukraine to lean on another government to do dirty work is bad but that's like saying a sentence where like that guy's smoking a blunt indoors in public versus like zooming out go that guy's smoking a blunt indoors in a hospital, more specifically in a neonatal intensive care unit.

You know what I mean? That's just one dimension. I think the bigger issue here is the sort of everything that's been guiding a lot of his policy, especially when it comes to Russia and things like that. All of the things in the Mueller report and things that we've all read about has a lot to do with Putin's desire to have sanctions lifted. Right. You know, because that's what's really fucking up their economy. The sanctions that Obama put in place for meddling in the 2016 elections are hurting. And also the sanctions that were put in place for Russia invading Crimea.

That's another set of sanctions that is fucking Russia up. And again, everyone was saying like, well, what's the quid pro quo here? It was sort of like, if you get into office or whatever, you got to fuck with us to get sanctions done. Or even in a very light way because even when you talk about that trump tower meeting they you know i think the the obviously the cover or the intention was we need to talk about sanctions not children's adoptions as much as i'm sure they care about that so when you look at that right every every sort of dimension of like what's going on all kind of leads back to that so whether it was the crowd strike thing that he mentioned on the phone,

that is trying to discredit the origins of the Mueller report, invalidate the Mueller report. Right. It's basically that Ukraine was the ones who hacked the DNC server. And they worked with the Democrats to do that. So therefore, but hey, man, I'm pretty sure the Mueller report totally exonerated you though, right, fam? Right. Okay, but we still need to discredit that. Okay, man, I'm pretty sure the Mueller report totally exonerated you, though. Right, fam?

Right. OK, but we still need to discredit that. OK, OK, let's keep that moving. And then I think this whole thing of even Bill Barr going around the world, right, telling the Australians, the Italians, even he was asking Boris Johnson in the UK to be like, can you look into your intelligence services to see if like they fucked up? Also, like maybe make up some shit. So it'll help us which he's always down to do yeah well i mean yeah but i think well bill barr now at this point is completely abdicated completely um abandoned his responsibilities and duties as like the attorney

general and now just like an agent for for the president yeah um but when you look at those things too that is a gonna just weaken completely weaken our even further our relationships with other intelligence apparatuses at apparatuses. I don't know the proper word. Apparatus. Apparatus. That's probably. Apparatics around the world. And again.

Apparatic. Apparatic. And again, discrediting the Mueller report and the the fact that Russia interfered in the elections, because if they do that and they can say, well, actually, now we have a pretext to say it wasn't Russia, then you could lift those sanctions. Right. And logically, that would be a way to do that. So the Trump administration is just like a single policy arm of Putin's Kremlin. Yeah. It all comes back to...

I mean, all this stuff has, if you really play it out and look down the road, it eventually benefits Vladimir Putin, right? Right. And again, with the Zelensky thing, I know we're looking, or the media right now,

the attention rightly is on the president abusing his power, his office, the taxpayer, the stature of the United States to lean on a foreign leader. But President Zelensky just like a few days ago said that he was agreeing to the Steinmeier formula, which is this formula that was put together by the president of now current president of Germany. That was an agreement that would essentially say that

fair elections, or there would be elections held in the separatist held parts of Ukraine under Ukrainian law and under the supervision of the OSCE, which is this group of Ukraine, Russia, France, and Germany to try and figure out how to make peace in Ukraine. And if the OSCE, they say, okay, if this voting is free and fair, then there will be a special self-governing status for those territories. And then Ukraine will be returned. So like you'll get your land back. But essentially they can vote in like a semi-autonomous status for themselves in which Russia will be able to sway that region politically. And so what that means is if this is used to bring them to the table, the Ukraine to the table to negotiate with Vladimir Putin, that they could technically end the aggression or the invasion in Ukraine and then there would no longer be sanctions again. So with Trump basically dragging his feet with the defense for Zelensky, he was like, I need javelins to fight fucking Russia.

Like, what the fuck is going on like and the dragging the feet that creates and I'm sure probably some bit of fear within Zelensky of like fuck I don't know how I'm going to defend my own country right and then so what's my next option do I fucking go to the table to fucking negotiate with Vladimir Putin just to end this shit because he did say he wanted to end the the war but there's a lot of like these are all sort of knock-on effects that eventually like if this does work out and they do come to a deal which trump has been saying i think zelinsky's going to make a deal or whatever it's ultimately could affect the sanctions too and give russia additional sanctions relief so it's a very like i mean again there's so many fucking loose ends and threads to mine and things like that that a lot of this is coming back to putin

getting what he wants yeah or but again you know we just don't know right what the fuck is going on because there's so much stuff that's classified too that like we really need answers for and clearly the white house strategy is just to drag their feet and be like well you know i know they say they want this shit in a few weeks, but like, we'll just, like, I mean, their options are, do they add another article of impeachment to the president for obstructing Congress? Or do they show them the receipts

that would actually even make the shit worse? So I wonder if their calculus is like, fuck it, we'll just take the obstruction thing because if they never see this, then you only have to face like an, I don't know. It's just a very, many cynical ways to look at sort of what's happening. And a lot of people in Ukraine are very upset about this, the possibility of them going to the table with Putin.

And I mean, the overall consequence of all this shit is, you know, giving Putin what he wants is scary because he is, he will take advantage of that. Any like weak spots that he sees in other countries he will you know exploit those yeah that's why you need a strong u.s government and that's why the consequence of having this particular u.s government is you know scary and will end in a lot of people dying in other countries probably. And not only that, right? Like, you know, like I would say like maybe a year and a half ago where like imagine what this president will do

if like his back's really against the wall. Right. Like we're starting to see that. I mean, we're very slowly drifting into being like, yo, man, we'll do whatever the fuck we want. We will fucking, we will suppress dissent. We will fucking out whistleblowers. I'll send the attorney general to try and coerce other governments to spin shit and the attorney general will stop acting as an attorney general all together right

right yeah and it's all out in the open and we are slowly crossing that rubicon right and i think that's a really important thing to remember here like this is very very fucked up and dangerous and if we're like if we're like oh well you know like doing p but this is getting like every day there's some other new transgression other violation or whatever that's coming up and we're like oh my god wow they're really fucking up but it's like no they're really trying to fucking pull some shit too right and i think it's important that i don't know in what way we really need a lot of these republican members of congress to fucking stand up or say something or just put themselves on the record. Even if you want to cape for the president, then do that. So people can very clearly say, OK, you're fucking part of this whole shit, too.

Right. It seems like a lot of Republican senators are just kind of staying quiet because they can't bring themselves to back him since what he's doing is so transparently bad. But they also haven't spoken in three years. They just have lost their voices altogether. Yeah. I mean, so a new poll revealed that only 40 percent of Republicans are willing to admit that Trump, quote, probably mentioned Biden and his son during his call with the Ukrainian prime minister over, I think it's a quarter, said that they didn't, he wasn't mentioned, he didn't mention that at all. This poll was conducted September 23rd through the 29th. So he released the actual text or the memo that had basically a description of him pressuring Zelensky to dig up dirt on Biden. Or even his own words.

Right. Like he— On September 22nd. So this entire poll was conducted in the aftermath. And yeah, I mean, I've done a mental health experiment where I've been listening to the Fox News satellite radio channel over the past. How's it going? For the articles. Trying not to steer into oncoming traffic. because everything you hear on that channel is just them being like,

well, now it's really collapsing back on the Democrats because they really like now their whole story is falling apart. It's all just – I mean there are some like moments of realization where people are like, and yeah, this is really bad. Yeah, well, it's a mixed bag over there because even when i watch like there's it's it is very frustrating because the way they're just their rationalizations are just sort of like well you know biden's bad too and right you know it's not going to be good for him either so it's like half acknowledging maybe this is bad but then also being like but don't worry and then a lot of the time it's just straight up. Right. And I will say, I mean, as a dumb person, speaking on behalf

of dumb people. With a twerking mummy. With a twerking mummy. Very specific group. Speaking for the twerking mummy demographic. As a twerking mummy mummy. For the twermums.

Much like the Mueller story, this is an extraordinarily difficult to follow political story for someone who isn't checking political news every second of every day which is not gonna yeah help any you know and it's like i feel like that's almost i mean obviously there's a lot of stupidity going on but it does feel like it's by

design to some extent of just to like add in these like bizarre they're like oh joe biden is involved you don't like joe biden so maybe this is like you know and and just sort of adding in i don't know like they're just every time i check on this story which i has been like one once every two days it's completely mutated and it is no longer like it's just yeah i've been extremely skull fucked because right now or on wednesday the inspector general for the state department like the State Department watchdog, contacted the Congress like the night before. I was like, I need to speak with people urgently about something. People being? Like congressional staffers for the Senate and House.

Oh. So it was almost like an emergency tea report. Oh, really? I need to speak with you. And that's happening on Wednesday. I'm not quite sure at the time as we record this, it's not clear what was said. But I know there was some talk about how Mike Pompeo was asking what could be done to, quote, like, discipline State Department staffers who were going to cooperate with congress now i don't know if it has anything to do with that but that was another thing floating out there but if that

was that's completely illegal like yeah for sure yeah how do we fucking punish people for for doing their job yeah so again cool this is like sort of the where we're headed now like it's not even i don't know yeah i mean it's it's unprecedented that we have just two different like media ecosystems and like that there is one media ecosystem that refuses to say anything bad about the republicans and like they're going to use that to do really corrupt shit like they'll most powerful people will do as will be as corrupt as you let them be and like they just they have it built so that they can get away with a ton of shit so they're going to do that until uh people start getting the message and doesn't seem like

anybody i mean it seems like things are like this does seem to be slightly different. CBS News YouGov poll released Sunday showed majority support for an impeachment inquiry with 55% of respondents nationwide in favor and 45% opposed. And a CNN poll indicated 47% support for impeachment and removal from office with 45% against. So it does seem to be moving in a direction that would suggest that people are at least aware, even if they're just like following him on Twitter. Like, yeah, well, just he's having such a he's like they're wasting their time on fucking bullshit. Yeah, he's it's getting. Well, anyway, it's getting very dangerous, actually, to be totally honest.

There's also the fact that, I mean, his whole thing, he always goes back to the fact that he has, like, an unprecedentedly good economy. I think we have a quote from him talking about what the annual percentage growth was gonna be

under him. Not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven, not seven. Wow. Was that LeBron? At the Miami

big three announcement, they were like, how many titles are we going to win? Not seven, not eight and they won two and how much and what did uh what did trump promise so trump was saying uh i'll just read this quote years from now they they can make it even more generous if we can get the economy like it should be the economy now is at three percent it wasn't it was it uh it's been averaging 2.3 since the recession nobody Nobody thought it could be anywhere close.

I think it could go to 4, 5, maybe even 6 ultimately. And then we're going to go to... 2.5 trillion. We are back. We are really going to start to rock. We're really going to start to rock. Are they going to watch UDC? Are they going to the White House?

To Michigan! There was like a little blip uh at after the tax cut which is what we were saying at the time you know most realistic people were suggesting was going to happen is it would be like you know junk food or you know like sugar it would like burn really fast you get like some cheap calories and then they would just burn off and burn off and go back to what it was before, except now inequality, which was already the biggest problem in American society would be even more because after the tax cuts, like you're giving way more of the money to corporations and way less to people. Yeah. The one thing, just when I think about this, right, because that's one the one thing people

were worried that Trump would be able to hang his hat on was the economy just doing somewhat well was also like the other the other thing I'm starting to see on Fox. A lot of pundits say like are at least trying to figure out the possible messaging for re-election would be like, look, the president just has to say, like, I've, I have a plan to make America great, but these Democrats, they just won't allow me to do anything and meet me to the table. So like, it's hard for me to follow through on that stuff when I have all these Democrats here. So please, you know, let, like, let's, let's vote these Democrats out and then we can finally get down to it. It's like you, you controlled the house

and the Senate. Right. How? What the fuck? What are you talking about? Like, that's not going to work. It's a very, like, and again, shout out to Kennedy from MTV. For all my elder millennials who remember the MTV VJ Kennedy,

she's now a fucking libertarian trash fire. Yes. No. And she's like, you know, and I think it's really, I think it's just really absurd for Democrats to talk about all this stuff that, you know, that they're trying to do because, you know, at the end of the day, if it can't pass the Senate, then what's the point of even passing all these bills? Like Nancy Pelosi is just trying to make these things, you know, look like they're doing

work, but if it can't pass the Senate, then it's just a waste of time. And, but no acknowledgement of like they're passing bills. Why doesn't the president look at them and say, well, okay, what's the middle here? Right. But again, he's not here to govern. He's here to basically escape crimes that he's committed. So, you know, we all win. Yeah.

And by win, we mean lose. Yeah. Safe conclusion. Hey, it's America, baby. Losers take all. That's right. Fun. All right.

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I'm a fireball. Yeah. I'm a fireball. It's weird because it says it kind of in a southern accent, but then the music is very, like, Miami Beach. I mean, in a way, it is very fun. An uncanny valley item. Like a southern drawl mummy with a big butt who knew how to twerk.

I would kind of laugh if I was at a costume show and they're like, what about you, mummy? What's your skill? Like, I'm a fireball. And then just was like isolating his butt. And I'm like, all right, southern mummy. I mean, you just pitched the origin story for the twerking mummy that I think Disney needs to greenlight.

I'm ready. I'm ready. Put it in the extended universe of anything. Yeah. All right. Quick shout out to Bernie Sanders. green light. I'm ready. I'm ready. Put it in the extended universe of anything. Alright, quick shout out to Bernie Sanders. Had to have a heart procedure and is suspending his campaign or at least

all campaign events for the foreseeable future while he recovers. It looks like it'll just be a couple days and the procedure he had done is extremely, extremely common. George Bush had it too. Yeah. I always worry.

The second someone, a progressive candidate, gets sick. Right. The mainstream media is looking for any excuse to write this dude off. Yeah. And it's already been. You know how Fox are going to be like, his heart's going to explode. Right. Or some shit like that. It's like, y'all didn't, his heart's going to explode. Right. Or some shit like that.

It's like, y'all didn't care when Joe Biden's eye exploded. Right. Yeah, I just, I don't know. Fox, I feel like, is somewhat Bernie friendly because they think that he'd be easy to beat. Right. Because they think their socialism equals Venezuela and everyone's eating each other line is like the best takedown. But already, I mean, even the way that some media outlets are reporting on it, they make it sound like

I don't even, I think I saw like a Twitter moment where it made it sound like the campaign was off. And then if you read the story, it's like probably for a couple of days. Yeah, they just need to. Well, and I even saw like even pundits who are like sort of the center left, like you know, the people who like act talk woke.

But at the end of the day, like if it's down to like Wall Street and working people, they're picking Wall Street. Yes. Like one person sort of quote tweeted like what happened because they said he had some chest discomfort and like his breathing or whatever. And they're like, are they just describing a heart attack? Right. And just very disingenuously just being like, oh, yeah, maybe had a heart attack. Maybe he's gonna die I don't know

I'm just putting I'm just reading what they're saying yeah you know yeah he's okay it sounds like he's okay

his wife said he's fine yeah yeah I mean again you know it's nothing it seemed like nothing too serious but hey

shout out to medical technology do you remember that time Hillary coughed right it's shit like that no and that's I think very she wasn't even a progressive candidate that's reasonable nothing too serious, but hey, shout out to medical technology. Do you remember that time Hillary coughed? Right, right. It's shit like that. No,

and that's, I think very- And she wasn't even a progressive candidate, so. That's reasonable because that's the lovely takedown

that they like to do or like, she fell down a step. Right. Back when we did Boyd Watch, I remember the National Enquirer

was always like, brain tumor? Right. Brain tumor? Yes. Apparently, the story that kept, like when they were doing focus group testing of Hillary Clinton,

the story that like prior to the 2016 election and after the 2016 election and to this day still comes up is that she has a kill list. Oh, great. Like Arya Stark. Yeah. Oh, fun. Yeah, just don't let yourself get twittered on this story because most of the headlines are dog shit IMO. Oh, really? Yeah.

It makes it sound like the campaign is off or it's like a serious thing when it's like a common procedure and he'll most likely be back in a couple days. Yeah. Let's talk about Amber Giger. Yeah. The convicted murderer of Botham john yeah i um shocked yeah i was a little bit surprised jury convicted a police officer who murdered an unarmed black

man who was eating ice cream in his own home in his own motherfucking home was charged with murder um wow great uh one thing i think the a lot of people pointing out the jury was actually pretty diverse which again y'all do not duck out of jury duty because sometimes you there needs to be people in there who understand what the fuck is really going on in this country to be able to advocate for people on trial and get justice so i do you know thank god for these jurors for seeing right through it because her defense, they tried to do all kinds of things. They were trying to say like, well, she thought she was in her own home, so she may have been standing her ground.

It's like, no, don't even try. They rejected that. They're like, fuck your manslaughter charge. We're going with murder. She did think she was in her own home though, right? She just. Whatever she think she was in her own home though right she just whatever she thought she was right i don't feel like i still haven't heard an explanation of like what the fuck she was doing it's irrelevant even if she thought she was in her own home right if you're

gonna if let's say someone was in your house and they were sitting on the couch and you're a cop you'd be like okay i'm gonna shoot this dude right here right yeah you couldn't just leave call for backup or something whatever the fuck it was. It just, everything just smacked of just someone who probably was always looking to maybe just like, give me a reason. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Type person. And right now she's in her sentencing phase and the prosecution, much, her defense was very upset about this. They were allowed to introduce some of her text messages to sort of give a little context to what kind of police officer or human being she was is. And they are very good because considering she murdered an unarmed black man in his own home, there's one chain of text messages between her and some other police officers because they were working a Martin Luther King Jr. Day parade. One of the people in the chain asked when does this end lol geiger replied when mlk is dead oh wait nice good one cool mlk death jokes uh and then then again um in september 4th of 2018 so

this is maybe a few like a week or two before the actual murder happened. Someone was trying to offer Geiger a German shepherd and said and then like the part that the text that they show, it says in response is like, I want to give this German shepherd, although she may be racist. Geiger responds, I wish I could have one, but not in this apartment smaller than my old one. Then seconds later, it's OK. I'm the same. OK, so so you know like there's a lot and i think the defense was like well we don't want to take these things out of context clearly she was out here being like you know like she's very much uh says shit like this out loud right it's comfortable saying that yeah i'm racist too right that that should actually

factor in and what happened here because i i don know what the same – I'm sure the situation might be different if she saw maybe a different person. Yeah, absolutely. Or maybe she didn't even – maybe she really did know whose apartment she was in. I don't know. But again, I'm just glad Justice has been served. But either way, it's like she should go to jail. Yeah. I was very pleasantly surprised to hear that Justice was actually served there.

Yeah. Absolutely. All right. This next story has a couple different questions I want to ask you guys. So a psychiatrist studied 400 different movies and looked for characters that could be specifically diagnosed as psychopaths and then rated them on how realistic they are as psychopaths. Interesting use of one's time.

Yes. Three years it took. That's like an out-of-work psychiatrist gig. Yeah. I was like, why are the psychiatrists trying to go viral? You're not going to work today? I'm doing my study. I'm doing my little weird project.

It's a professor of psychiatry, so. All right. You know, a lot of free time. Was this to sort of ascertain how unrealistic the portrayal of people who might truly be psychopaths are? Or just being like, these are the most lit psychopaths in movies. Yeah, so I mean, I think just in general, I don't know that they went in with a specific axe to grind as much as they probably recognized that movie characters define how we like imagine things happening in real life all right cuz movies give us some of the wildest misconceptions about

reality yes so some extremely iconic psychopathic characters that who they found weren't realistic. Hannibal Lecter, Norman Bates, Patrick Bateman and Gordon Gekko for some reason. They I guess. Yeah, that's kind of a psychopathic character. But they were saying that those characters were more just a collection of movie tropes of like villain movie. Right. Right.

Right. But not really like the actual like clinical findings around psychopathy. Anton sugar though is from a no country for old men is the most realistic along with the guy from M, the old movie. What's M? It's like a German movie where it's just about like a... Killer? Killer, like a child serial killer.

Whoa. And Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer, which, I mean, if you're going to call your movie that, then you better do some research. I just, yeah. We talk about this on the Bechdelcast a lot of just like how awful mental illness is generally portrayed in movies. And like bordering on, I mean, it's usually just a pile of tropes. But then sometimes they will present you with a pile of tropes and then put an actual label on it.

And I feel like um bipolar ocd or something right yeah and then there's um like uh multiple personalities is very often like and they call that schizophrenic even though like those are not the same thing at all yeah there's just like so little understanding and it's always like demonized and horrible and it and and the people that uh this list qualifies as um like actually fitting the bill and i'd be like interested in how this was conducted but uh aren't like really super famous movie characters like or compared to hannibal lecter norman bates patrick bateman that whole bit right yeah and i wonder was the only one like well let's just look at bad guys when I wonder how many protagonists of a film could be like actually that I there's so

if if Zyking has some examples of like uh movies where mental illness is written well uh let us know I just always assume that it's bad seen what like a a portrayal through constantly looking at film and stuff like that that you felt that this is one that isn't just used to sort of give a character a sensationalized dimension for the purpose of drama not that i could think of off the top of my head no it's like uh yeah i mean because because it's always used for like dramatic or comedic effect like either pull on that like playing someone's mental illness for pull on that, like playing someone's mental illness to heighten drama

or playing someone's mental illness to make a joke. Like neither of it is smart to do. So I don't know. I'll have to think on it, but not that I can think of. So one other thing they found is that the characters

got more realistic with time, which raises a question I've had. Like, I feel like actors, acting has gotten better with time, so I've always kind of had this philosophical question, are actors like better today or did people just behave differently back in the day? Because like, when I watch a movie from the 40s or 50s, I can immediately just be like, oh, they're acting?

There's something affected about it? I think they're generally more broad. And they were also using fake-ass accents in movies from the 40s and 50s. Like that Northeastern? They were using the transatlantic accent, which never even existed, which was made in a lab for movies. Right. It's just like.

So they were worse actors. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I think also too, we just have an abundance of information now we can actually tap into. Like if you're a method actor or something or whatever technique you're using,

like you could look at all kinds of research. Right. To be, yeah. Show up and do your job. I am all the time. Don't fucking harass the crew, Jim Carrey. Leave people alone. What film was he doing that on?

He was doing a movie where he was playing man in the movie. Oh, yeah. Just being, I was like, people were making not 1% of what you're making. It was like, I'm playing a prank on you. I was like, fuck you, man. Method actors piss me off. Yeah. You very rarely see a woman.

I love how much they piss you off, actually. You very rarely see a woman do method acting because she would be fucking fired. Yeah. I mean, I think that's a sort of a way to be like, yeah, the way I'm going to get into this is just like indulge whatever shit is in me to become this character. Yeah. I just want to be a dick, so let me just do it. Right. yeah like I just want to be a dick so let me just do it right there my favorite example of method acting is I guess Tom Hardy was method acting when he's playing Mad Max which like

not necessary right he has two lines but uh but I guess like he was method acting Charlize Theron is just a professional actor and so so there was like this interview she did where she was like yeah Tom was just like you know there, just kind of brooding. And I would show up, you know, talk to the crew, say hi. And then I would do the scene. I was like, yeah, dude, that sounds like the job. Acting, right, right. It's like that moment in Extras where Ian McKellen is explaining his acting method to Ricky Gervais.

And he's like, and how do I act? So I'm Sir Ian, Sir Ian, Sir Ian. Action wizard. Sir Ian, so I'm Sir Ian Sir Ian Sir Ian action wizard like right you're not you're not Gandalf the whole time yeah all method actors that we're familiar with are arrogant white dudes with purpose like it's just like they're the people who can get away with it yeah the one example that I've uh I find interesting is when uh what's his name Daniel Day-Lewis played Abraham Lincoln because he had to like oh wasn't it like a no that I find interesting is when, what's his name, Daniel Day-Lewis played Abraham Lincoln because he had to like-

Oh, wasn't there like a no phone policy or like no technology around it? He had to be like a really like kind and inspiring person for a year, like just around, like how do you embody Abraham Lincoln like on and off set? That would be so weird.

Like, yeah, it does. I do feel like most of the time it's just like an excuse to be an asshole if i were working with someone yeah it's just an excuse i would fuck with somebody who's method acting as abraham lincoln right i would just see like oh is that what abe would do uh-huh just to keep fucking like really that's an interesting choice am i who am i talking to now because what i just saw was not abe well even like the stories about like joaquin phoenix on the set set of Joker where he was a like an absolute method asshole to everyone except Robert De Niro and then he'll be Joaquin Phoenix and it's like okay so you just treat

people you don't respect like garbage right that's what you're saying right yes also big fan big fan oh yeah yeah apparently there's a leaked tape that we'll play on a future episode where he has a meltdown. Oh, I heard that little diva moment. Yeah, a little diva moment. You're talking about the one between De Niro and Joaquin Phoenix? I think so, yeah. And there's also an interview where somebody asks Joaquin Phoenix,

this was in our episode yesterday, or in the article that our writer, Jay McNabb, wrote yesterday about the Joker. Somebody asked Joaquin Phoenix, so have you thought about the possibility that this would inspire people who are incels? Is this the interview when he ran away? Yeah.

He goes, why? No. Why would you? And ran out of the room. And then came back and was like, sorry, I had just never considered that you would ask that question. I'm sorry. I've never, I've literally never thought of another person before.

So that was actually really hard for me. I'm sure if Todd Phillips, based on what he's been saying as the director, they're going to be like, this is going to be sick. Yeah, he's just like, I'm quitting comedy. It was like, dude, no one knew you were here. Right.

Oh, God. Babies. Exhausting. Yeah. Babies. What were we talking about? Method acting. Oh, I'm sorry. Which is a form of lying. Transition. Transition lenses. Brought to you by LensCrafters. method acting oh I'm sorry oh yes which is a form of lying oh which transition

transitions lenses brought to you by LensCrafters word on the street is lying to your kids can make them liars uh oh watch out now well there's

I mean you know a study that was done in Singapore but it was like in conjunction with like the University of Toronto UC San Diego Chinese University they were all kind of figuring out like what is the effect when parents lie to their children like in conjunction with like the university of Toronto, UC San Diego, uh, Chinese university,

they were all kind of figuring out like, what is the effect when parents lie to their children and what they said, Santa Claus and shit. Uh, well, no, Jamie used to play. I mean that,

but also just shit being like, did your parents ever be like, yo, if you don't knock that off, I'm gonna call the police. Yeah. And they're going to arrest you. This,

that is something that I try to, that do more of do. Like I I try to... Do more of? I always try to just create elaborate scenarios that will terrify my children. Like George Bluth in Arrested Development? The guy with the one arm? I try and steer clear of doing that stuff where you make up some circumstance

or some consequence because you just don't want to... My mom used to tell me all the time that she would she would report me to the police right like she was just like if it came down to it if i thought you would learn a lesson i would call the cops on you i was like whoa yeah she still says it sometimes there you go well they're um they asked a few like young adults because they wanted people who were still somewhat close to their childhood and but now adults to be able to sort of have those memories and they said the adults

who reported being lied to more as children were more likely to report lying to their parents in their adulthood yeah and they also faith they said they also said they faced these young adults greater difficulty in meeting psychological and social challenges so they had these like adjustment difficulties like being disruptive or they're experiencing of guilt and shame or like having selfish or manipulative characteristics. Right. Like those, a lot of those people were like feeling that because it would be like, yeah, my parents would like say shit like this or whatever to get me to just believe them on something. But they, then they go on. One of the lead authors says, quote, parenting by lying can seem to save time, especially when the real reasons behind why parents want children to do something is complicated to explain.

When parents tell their children that honesty is the best policy but display dishonesty by lying, such behavior can send conflicting messages to their children, and parents' dishonesty may eventually erode trust and promote dishonesty in children. I think that's generally true. That tracks, yeah. trust and promote dishonesty in children. I think that's generally true. That tracks, yeah. Especially, like, your kids are smarter than you think they are. They're going to know that you're lying before you think they do.

So, like, don't just find a way, like, spend your energy on finding a good way to explain the truth rather than, like, making up some bullshit. My dad's policy was just break him off with blunt truth if he's asking for it i'm like i'm like what's crack and he's like it's a drug that's made with cocaine and people i'm like okay wow i'm always reading a song and i only tried it a couple times yeah but i think it is good to be honest because like as a child if you really do have that curiosity and you can explain it to them in a way that maybe isn't going to, you know, completely fuck up their worldview in a way that might stunt their growth emotionally or something. You do feel a little,

you're like, Oh, that's good. I'm getting information. I'm learning this person I can trust. And now I feel a little more, it also helps you feel a little more like, I don't know,

as a kid, if you have questions that are answered more things, there's less uncertainty to you. Yeah. And then, I mean, it does like, it's scary, but there's more general trust. I even like appreciated when I was younger, where like, if my dad brought up the possibility that like parents will behave hypocritically, even like acknowledging that I was like, okay,

so at least, you know, and they would, they would do that thing where they're like they're like yeah don't do what we do or you'll be like us and your life will suck and i was like fuck right yeah but did he but he's friends with cam neely so right oh yeah what before he told you that before he told you that did he turn his chair around and sit on it backwards and put his hand over it kind of like like in a cool way. Buddy. Yeah. Right. Yeah. He's wearing a backwards hat. Yeah. Yeah.

He's like, did you just pierce your ear? He's like, yeah, in the bathroom. I think I did it wrong. No, I was like,

I would, I would ask my dad why he wouldn't stop smoking. And he'd be like, you can't smoke because do you know what my lungs look like? Fucking trash is what they look like. Like stuff like that. He's like, I'm not,

I'm not a healthy man and I don't know how long I'm going to live. You're like, Oh shit. Damn. You said that? Yeah. I don't know how long I'm going to live. You're like, oh shit. He said that? Yeah. I don't know how long I'm going to live? Which you probably

shouldn't say to your kid. How old are you? I mean, you're still too young to hear that, I think. No one wants to hear it. Well,

I've been maybe like eight or nine. Wow. Yeah. Where like my parents would constantly, because it was like they knew they shouldn't

have been smoking. Quick question. But they were pack a day people I don't smoke I don't Juul and you're the only person under the age 30 who doesn't Juul I heard like kids are just going home

telling their moms you know I want to vape I want to vape have you seen that clip no it's the best alright well speaking of respecting our parents I want to vape. Have you seen that clip? No. Oh, God. It's the best. All right.

Well, speaking of respecting our parents, I think we should declare war on baby boomers. Yeah. What? A Florida baby boomer was caught on video cutting brake lines of scooters, of like those public scooters. And I think that's as much a declaration of war as we can get. Cutting brake?

I think next thing we're going to find out they're poisoning our vapes. I think that's what's happening. They're putting barious in our vapes. Poisoning our fucking avocados. You fuck with my avocados, bro. It's fucking ugly dad and mom. Don't think I won't bring this shit straight to my own doorstep. Anyways.

What the fuck? Is the guy was just, I'm sure he's been arrested, but they don't have a motive or anything? They haven't explained a motive. He was caught doing it like a dozen times over the course of a year. Holy shit. Jeez. I mean, you'd find out pretty quickly, though, if the brakes aren't working on them. There is something that makes people

irrationally angry about those scooters. I mean, there's... You know why? Because they're in the fucking way. But like... But I'm not saying... I'm pro. I think...

I'm pro. No, no, I'm not against them. I'm saying I'm, you know, I have a... My mother's voice rings in my head. So when I see she's just strewn about on the floor, I'm like, pick that shit up.

You know what I mean? Yeah. So I think that's not be strewn on the floor. That's what I mean. And I understand because I think for like those like last mile type commuters, that's perfect. Or for me, like going into my house to like a Metro station,

fucking quick. You know what I mean? Rather than walking 15 minutes, I can get my boyfriend blazing towards me on a lime. I get all horned up. walking 15 minutes. When I see my boyfriend blazing towards me on a lime, I get all horned up. And then he comes up and does a spin.

Sup, babe? Does a sick twist. Just fucking skids up. What's up, babe? What's up? Hop on the back. Hop on the back. There's a 220-pound weight limit,

so we'll see how fast this thing goes. Hop on the back. We're going to Whole Foods 365. He doesn't even say anything. He just throws a helmet to you gotta stay safe he's like hey

twerk he's like he's like not you the twerking mummy put it on the mummy ah shit well Jamie yeah

it's been so fun having you oh it's always a pledge what a pledge where can people find you find me online

at Jamie Loftus Help on Twitter Jamie Car Superstar on Instagram I got some stand up shows coming up in DC. If you're a DC Zeitgang the 18th and

19th I'll be doing stand up there and watch the new season of Robot chicken i'm pretty sure this weekend um my my sketch about cheeto fingers is airing oh shit yeah what was a joke somebody like shouted out that uh you had written oh uh that it was a sketch i wrote called fourth wall rehab where it's just like characters who break the fourth wall you know it's robot oh right right uh but uh yeah it is uh making a demon of jim from the office and saying yeah oh right he bullied an autistic beet farmer into moving yeah i think that's a very good point jim

thank you uh bad guy yeah jim also john krasinski refused to voice he's like i don't do jim anymore i'm like fuck you wait what Jack Ryan. I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry, Jack Ryan. Fuck you. I do like dog whistle, like neocon entertainment now. Neocon horror? Yeah. Fuck that guy. Him and

Chris Pratt. Pat Pratt. Chris Pratt. Him and Chris Pratt can go on an island and fuck themselves. Chris Pratt. They and Chris Pratt Can go on an island And fuck themselves Yeah Whoa Chris Pratt They're both like secret Secret agent

In my mind Probably not true Chris Pratt rude dude I mean I've heard he's rude Is he rude That's what He was rude to

One of my favorite comedians Who Told me On a podcast I heard on a podcast But he was like But I don't Oh wait

Told me You said You mean You heard it on a podcast. I heard on a podcast, but he was like, but I don't want him. Oh, wait, told me. You said, you mean you heard it on a podcast. Told you like the royal you. To be fair, you know, that's how we experience podcasts. Yes. Miles, where can people find you? Find me, follow me on, you know, Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. There are a few.

Oh, I never asked you if you had a tweet you liked jamie oh right oh sorry wait i went oh shit i need a second anyways okay let me do my i'll give you plenty of time uh first one's from dana donnelly at dana donnelly uh tv pilots in 2019 be like her boyfriend dumped her for her roommate who was also her mom who was also her employer now single homeless with no family and no job victoria has no choice but to join a farming commune run by her high school sweetheart and his new wife oh wow um yeah okay no maybe uh another one possible to say and it's really it's really hard to tell uh another one is uh from uh h bomb at h bomber guy it says when someone says people don't want comedies anymore that's not entirely true the truth is people didn't want the hangover part three

and then one more from dana donnelly at dana donnelly my plan to lose weight by parking far away from the places i'm going may seem silly. How's walking an extra hundred feet going to do anything? You might think. But look closer. I'm creating a very unique opportunity for myself to be kidnapped and then starved in a dungeon. Dana. Wow.

Dana. Dana. By the way, I prefer kidnapped as a pronunciation. Yeah, kidnapped. Kidnapped. I've been kidnapped. I've been kidnapped. Also, October 16th, 7 p.m., Hungry Brain in Chicago.

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And what have you loft us? I'm going to shout out a Kat Cohen tweet. I love Kat. When I do the dishes in my apartment, I'm like, okay, I'm in a play. All of her tweets are the best thing ever. That's so funny. That's so good. Okay, I'm in a play.

That and more at Kat C. Cohen. Hell yeah. Bless her. On the subject of baby boomers, Josh Gondelman tweeted, truly incredible baby boomer move was deciding that all rock music by bands they like is classic no matter when it was made or whether it's good uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a

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Miles, what's that going to be today? This is a track from Washed Out. Not brand new music from, I don't know, that album Mr. Mellow that came out a while ago,

I think. This one's called Floating By. You know, if you get into Washed Out, if you aren't already into Washed Out. Yeah, the Portlandia theme song. Ever heard of it? Yeah, ever heard of it?

Idiot. And also, I did play one of his early, early tracks when, like, a year or two years ago when we did a 420 episode where I was only doing, like, weed-based things. He has a track called, I think, Mar think marijuana that's also a really cool instrumental but anyway this is floating by with his dreamy dreamy vocals hey hey hell yeah the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for today.

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