The Daily Zeitgeist - Geist Minds Think a Zeit 10/2: Gov Shutdown, Criminalized Dissent, Jane Goodall

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

In this edition of Geist Minds Think a Zeit, Jack and Miles discuss What's happening now that the government is shut down, How the expanding of the definition of terrorism is being used to criminalize... dissent, The passing of Jane Goodall, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:22 Courtesy of Big and Scary 802, in reference, of course, to the phrase. Geist minds think a right Geist minds thick alike Yeah, yeah, it's probably that I don't know man I'm not paid to know these phrases Idioms
Starting point is 00:02:39 You didn't even know quick time player I know I'm at a place where it took me Five seconds to remember the name of QuickTime To open up the recording Even though we were we recording QuickTime every day Yeah, yeah some do Many many do
Starting point is 00:02:53 I don't use QuickTime Just full disclosure I just want to put that out there I think you're better than me? No, no, no, not at all. All right. It is... I think I'm a lot better than you.
Starting point is 00:03:01 October 2nd, 2025. Yeah. Those are facts. You are a lot better than me. My name's Jack. That over there is Mr. Miles Gray. Yeah. Oh, whoa.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Whoa. Yes. Let's go. What's trending? I got invited to a art show opening for Todd Gray by a friend who, like, works at a gallery. Yeah, yeah. I was like, how the fuck? That's my dad's name.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Do you believe it? Are you going? Wait, when is it? I don't even know. There's an opening? In the new year. Oh, shit, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I'll wake you up when September ends. Yeah, please do. All right. It's October. Oh, shit, man. Wake me up when October ends also. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could we click this shit?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Can we just fast forward run through a couple years here? All right. What's happening in this? news the government shutdown is happening Donald Trump trying to be real shrewd with it is basically like I'll starve you to death yeah well I mean like it's just
Starting point is 00:04:07 it's just retaliation there's a lot happening the insistence on this is a Democrat shutdown like there are mass emails going out like you know because the Democrats are like fucking you over or like if you get a bounce back email they're like due to the Democrat shutdown we will be slow in responding to da da da da da da he's really trying to just sort of like seed
Starting point is 00:04:23 that idea that this is all at the responsibility of the Democrats because this is a lie. He's saying it's because they want to give illegal as health care and that's the hill they want to die on. So we're just going to have to shut the thing. Then we have no choice. And to that end, we are going to threaten thousands
Starting point is 00:04:39 of federal workers with layoffs too. Right. As a way, basically just blackmailing the Democrats to be like, we'll do it. Yeah. We'll do it. We're fucking wacky man. Read Project 2025. So he and Russell Vott are now using the shutdown to just see how much
Starting point is 00:04:55 damage they can inflict first I think on blue states to try and really upset the people in those states like by pulling all kinds of green energy money that was supposed to go in there from the Green New Deal. So pretty much any state that didn't vote for him is seeing that money get pulled along with a few other states with like other specific programs. So that's kind of they're at that place now and just trying to take it out on federal workers as a way to try and bring Democrats to the table. Just a hostage situation essentially. Yeah, but it's just it's fucking crazy because you're talking about the people that do the work that even give people the idea that things work.
Starting point is 00:05:33 So then when there aren't any people to sustain those agencies, that's going to be, that's going to manifest in chaos. And I'm sure that's, that is part of Project 2025 is to completely gut the federal government essentially. Right. And so it just gives them an excuse. But I think that's the other thing too is like doing that really close to, I mean, Well, if we have normal elections, you know, having like a government like that is absolutely just not fucking working isn't a great look.
Starting point is 00:06:04 But for the people in power. Yeah, but they're really never interested in what a good look is. So it's just very, you know, right now it's starting with this shit about going, well, we're not going to give you your windmill money. Right. But I'm sure, well, they're going to probably crank the heat up. The more they realize how much people are laying this at their. feet. Right. And the Democrats are just being like, no, it's a Trump shut down. And it's just, yeah. But they're being clear and being like, this is, this is not whatever the
Starting point is 00:06:32 fuck they're talking about. It's because they're going to take away all these health care subsidies and like your insurance tax credits. Like people, you know, they're giving examples of like, let's say you're a 60 year old couple in Mike Johnson's like state of Louisiana. Your, your fucking premiums are going to go up like 300% without some of these tax credits intact. so yeah it's just a bunch of screaming right now as you know this thing just kind of grinds to a halt for a little bit yeah great great country we got here yeah killing it we're doing we're doing good work everything's functioning great um we do we did get a sense of like how they're talking uh behind the scenes a little bit um with a hot mike moment from uh who what's this representative of madeline dean madeline dean madeline dean yes a Democrat. Speaking to Mike Johnson, a little pretty candid way that people might speak to one another. Yeah, just caught him in a corner. And, you know, this is getting a lot of attention because a lot of, like, you'll just see. She's like, what the fuck's going on with the president,
Starting point is 00:07:37 basically? Yeah. And this is Mike Johnson subconsciously agreeing with her by nodding his head in agreement as she's talking, but then being like, well, no, no, no, no. But here's this interaction that was sort of happening off camera, but because the mic was on, we got to sort of hear it all happen. The president is unhinged. He is unwell. What are you doing? A lot of folks on your side are, too. I don't control. Oh, my God, please. That performance in front of the generals, that is so dangerous. You know I serve on foreign affairs and appropriations. This is a collision of those two things. Our allies are looking elsewhere. Our enemies are laughing. I just left the speaker. You have a president who is, you have a president who is unwell.
Starting point is 00:08:18 a lot of folks on your side are two are two two as in yeah yeah i that that seems to be accepting that the president is out of his mind and then saying well you guys have some like bad ones too which seems like a real oh my god he admitted it yeah that's what a lot of people are being like, wait, hold on. So when she goes, he's unhinged, he's unwell, and you said people on your side are too, is it? Oh my God. He made it. This is, yeah, I mean, I love that her response after, like, a lot of folks on your side are too, is like, oh my God, please. Yeah. I'm kind of here for the, like, wait the fuck up, dude. Like, that's what it felt like that. Did you, because you know, he knows it's an L because you said that performance in front of
Starting point is 00:09:12 the generals when he was like, I didn't see. You know they know it's an L when they say, I didn't see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually didn't watch that thing that everybody's been talking about for the past 24 hours where the president spoke to the most powerful military figures in the country. I actually didn't even think about that, actually. So that was the thing? Sorry, follow up.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Your third in line to be president, just so you know. And you didn't see that. So are you bad at your job? Also, do you want to see it now and then you can tell me what the fuck is up? Sure. You want to do that? You want to try that shit out? This did make me just wonder.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Like, why the fuck aren't the Democrats talking like this in public was my first thought. Like, is it, are they just standing on decorum at this point where like, you know, the lives of people they represent are being violently upended? And they're like, well, we can't be rude and say officially like the president is, you know? Senile. He's slipping into darkness. And not like, yeah, I mean, families and communities are being torn apart by government sanctioned kidnappings. And they're choosing to like point out that the president is unhinged behind closed doors. See, well, and this is where I'm, maybe this is, they are keeping that same energy because yesterday, uh, Illinois governor J.B. Pritzker in front of microphones was like, they're here.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I'll just, this, this is J.B. Pritzker at a press conference. It appears that Donald Trump, not only his dementia set in, but he's copying tactics of Vladimir Putin, sending troops into cities, thinking that that's some sort of proving ground for war, or that indeed there's some sort of internal war going on in the United States, is just, frankly, inane. And I'm concerned for his health. He goes on to be like, yeah, you know, maybe a 25th Amendment here. He might need to be removed from office. Right. I mean, I honestly think, like, the concern trolling is probably a good tactic here. Is he okay? Is he okay? Is he okay? Are you sure? What was that about? Yeah. What was that about? I didn't see it. Oh, you should see it. And then tell me what that was about. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just keep pressing. Yeah, because you can only... They can only mitigate for so long, which they have been doing. But it's also, I think the people who are on the opposing side of it go, Oh, yeah, let me ask a follow-up question because it's clear to everyone on the left or who isn't a Republican who's like a total sycophant that he is fucking cooked mentally.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yeah. I don't know. Like, I think it's a good way forward just to like, it's just the energy of it to just be like, this is not normal. Fuck this guy is like the energy of it. I don't know if it's caused by senility or, you know, moments of sinility or if the, I don't know. Like, he just, he's still just barfing out the same shit. He's just worse at it and seems more tired and, like, scattered, right? Sure.
Starting point is 00:12:19 But if you compare it to any person who we would say is healthy and in their maybe middle age even, they can say full sentences. They can connect ideas. Like, objectively, his speech is all, it's like scatterbrained. Yes. He was mistaking Albania for Armenia recently. Like, he can't. doesn't get anything straight that is objectively not good um and i think you know we're
Starting point is 00:12:47 sort of like operating in this thing where like everyone kind of knows like yeah this guy's kind of fucking something's something's wrong with him but i think republicans it's easy for them like oh he's he's a quirky fun president but if you kind of keep insisting this is so different this is like something is wrong like is he okay i think it at least shift the conversation to at least, because the framing is still, the framing isn't that, guys, something's wrong with him. The framing is, he's kind of a weird guy. That's kind of what we're operating in. And that needs to, the conversation, if this kind of tactic is effective, it would shift it
Starting point is 00:13:23 to what's wrong with him. And why aren't you guys who are in his party doing something about it? Because to leave him there is putting everyone in grave danger. I mean, like, already we are. But I guess in terms of like rhetorically how Democrats or Republicans talk on the hill, that would at least begin to put. more pressure on them explaining, like, why he's posting weird. Caroline Levitt was asked about the Medbed video.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Right. The guy in the press was like, what was he trying to communicate with that video? He deleted it, but what was he trying to communicate to that with that? Yeah. And she just went on a version of, like, he likes to post memes and, like, stuff that he sees that he likes and isn't it refreshing? But then you can be like, he was talking about technologies that don't exist. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:03 That seems weird for the president to send a video that says he's created a technology that doesn't exist. That seems... Does he believe that? Or what is he implying by that? That's, aspirational for him? What is the... You know politics much better than me. What is the force that is stopping them from speaking the way that she just spoke to him on a hot mic that stopped them from saying they're weird? Is it the consultants being like, if we're too mean, it seems unlikable? What is that force? I mean, there's always some version. of like because like the messaging gets so vetted like if it's coming from the party like they're they're fucking in the lab trying to be like well what what happens with this group if we're talking
Starting point is 00:14:47 this way right how is how does this messaging pull with this group i think right now the reason is because i for what i mean like what we've seen is just that democrats they're still insistent on having this sense of like well we're not going to i mean they were they were casting aspersions on joe biden's mental acuity right and and that's just that's just really unbecoming so there's Rightly so. Fucking rightly so. You should have cast aspersions on Joe Biden's mental acuity, you dumb fucks. That's what, I mean, that's, I would be effective.
Starting point is 00:15:16 We'd be like, hey, guys, you know, we should have actually acted sooner. Right. And you know what? And now we're telling you. We're coming off a massive mistake that we made and we're worried. Like, it's like you can't have the same exact thing happened two times in a row and not catch it. Like, the same shit is happening. I think the other thing, too, is they don't want to start doing.
Starting point is 00:15:37 that like he's he's got dementia thing because then the Republicans just cook up some fake doctor's note and be like right you guys are lying you guys just lie yeah that's what I'm saying like just adjust it a little bit and go yeah okay a little tweak he all right um that don't seem all right the energy is important to me I don't think that this is like the only way forward because I do think they'll be able to just like you know work around that I do think journalists should be changing like you said they should be asking five follow-up questions in a very aggressive way that forces him, especially to think on his feet if they're continuing to make him available to the media, which I guess they don't do that
Starting point is 00:16:18 often. But when you have that opportunity, go in knowing that you're, this is both an attempt to, like, get information, but also an attempt to give him a public, like, neurological exam, you know? Yeah, and get them to articulate a defense of it, too, because how. the time it just doesn't make sense although you know i think a lot of people they they do just see him as quirky or whatever you know that are like that are his fans because really they just like to see you know they're like i just want to drink liberal tears yeah and you can find little moments where he says something that seems to make sense it's just yeah of when taken in the hole anybody
Starting point is 00:17:01 who has you know lived with or had a loved one who suffered from dementia recognized the energy. Yeah. And it's more like you got to, it's more about putting pressure on the, the sycophants. Yeah. In the house,
Starting point is 00:17:14 in the Senate and in the cabinet to be like, yo, you're good with this? Yo, this you? This you? You know, like more so about making a person individually account for what,
Starting point is 00:17:27 how they're seeing it. Like, that's why Mike Johnson got so uncomfortable. Because she was, she was like, what's going on with him? What do you think about this? And he's like,
Starting point is 00:17:36 well, you know, I was just like, you guys do it too. It's just wild that he didn't know the very basic rules of like how you respond to a playground insult. He was like, you know, you seem like so stupid that like I'm actually worried about you. And he's like, well, you are too. Yeah. It's like, no, you say I know you are, but what am I?
Starting point is 00:18:02 You're not, you're not supposed to include yourself in that. You dip shit. We're both really. dumb. Yeah, I know, but you are too. We're both dumb as fuck. What? All right, man. Let's just get to it. Head or gut, man. You are bad at this. Heathergut, man.
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Starting point is 00:19:17 We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals. And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard, though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah. We had so much fun last season laughing.
Starting point is 00:19:37 crying, talking to some new and old friends. Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing. Oh, yeah. And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this f*** has no friends. This time around, we are, say it, Melissa.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Should I? Say it. Getting a little more better. Oh, finally. It's all the dressing room talks you've loved in season one. All the things. Because aren't we all trying?
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Starting point is 00:21:44 In this episode, I discussed personal safety and self-defense, tools, instincts, and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. and we're back we're back and there's this new order named nspm 7 oh yeah we touched on that a little bit did we touch on that yesterday on monday on monday just basically talking about yeah like the new directive to make anything anti-traditional anti-capitalism anti-american it's pretty indicator for terrorism. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's basically, I don't know, so this Time Magazine article just lays it out. The Trump administration is facing mounting criticism over a sweeping directive that expands the government's definition of domestic terrorism indicators to include a wide range of political beliefs with lawmakers and civil liberties groups warning it could be used to criminalize dissent.
Starting point is 00:22:54 the wording is it directs the FBI's joint terrorism task force to investigate networks, entities, and organizations that foment political violence and identifies ideological markers such as anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity as red flags. There's another thing, too, that said extreme views on gender or extreme views on immigrant. Basically, if, you know, it's essentially whatever, if you guys are, if you're not,
Starting point is 00:23:24 on board with this, then you were going to label you as some kind of terrorist to, you know, bring back this new McCarthyism. I mean, I've always said Time Magazine as a garbage publication, but to claim that this could be used to criminalize dissent, it is the criminalizing dissent bill.
Starting point is 00:23:40 It is the explicit. Like, how could it be any more explicit? Like, that's like saying a handgun that is pointed at your head could be used to shoot you. That's the whole fucking reason it's there. Yeah. Like, what what other things
Starting point is 00:23:55 so you're saying it could be used what other things could it be used for yeah yeah it is specifically a weapon to make it so they can arrest trans people or people who are critical of fucking capitalism yeah it's
Starting point is 00:24:12 like I mean the order itself is just very wacky and it like sort of it's doing this whole thing of like there's all these foreign money coming in because a lot I was reading a lot of people who talk about like Farah enforcement, you know, the foreign agents registration act, like they're trying to use that to try and say, like, if there are affinity groups or advocacy groups that are receiving money from anything that could be tied to like a foreign country or foreign national, that they're going to try and use that to be like, oh, we have foreign people trying to affect like, you know, the, the conversations in this country by backing these groups or whatever. So I was reading about like lawyers who work with certain like groups that, you know, could be seen as quote unquote, being in the part of this like, you know, a terroristic group that they should really be
Starting point is 00:25:00 looking over because it seems like maybe like foreign money is going to be an inroad with how they try and legally fuck people over too, like to start with like these like, you know, larger organizations to be like, why are you getting money from this person who lives out of the country? Oh, that's strange. In this global economy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's, it's just really, it's interesting. I mean, it's not interesting. It's just very confusing because like legally, like, all the people who read it, they're like, like, legally this document's all over the place. But they're also like at the same time, the government is using nothing but like legally dubious arguments to fuck with people right now.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah, yeah. So in that way, it's like hard to know how this actually ends up like manifesting. It seems bad. It seems. Oh, no, it is. I mean, like to articulate it already to be like, if you do not believe Jesus Christ is the savior and money is his father. the green back is his father, you will go away for whatever or lose everything or whatever they decide to punish people. They were annoyed that they only had to take Jimmy Kimmel off the air. They
Starting point is 00:26:04 were wishing they could just arrest him, you know? Yeah. The update on the Gaza Flotilla is that it has been intercepted by the Israeli Navy who detained hundreds of activists and arrested them with no right to do so in any way and I mean that's really it's very depressing and then like I'm also really depressed to report that I was like half relieved that they didn't murder them all that's like where the fucking where my expectations are for the Israeli military but I like everybody should be outraged there are protests cropping up but these are they're arresting and detaining people who were trying to bring fucking baby formula and like humanitarian aid humanitarian aid purely humanitarian aid so that's extremely frustrating and i think that the people who organized this
Starting point is 00:27:04 were hoping that they could get aid to the starving people in gaza but also we're aware that this is a possibility of just like showing how nakedly fucked the this enemy is and how fucking awful they are how like they will arrest people and treat it like you're trying to smuggle heroin for trying to bring baby formula to starving infants. Yeah. Well I mean it just shows you I mean like when when the West you know the quote unquote the West or like the former colonial powers are on your
Starting point is 00:27:38 side it's one thing. Right. That's why Ukraine is getting support. Right. Because all of these countries are sort of like they're mostly in agreement that they're like yeah, yeah, yeah. Russia bad fight them here's here's stuff to fight them with but with this i'm sorry like the idea of these people like acknowledging the oppression and the apartheid state and all that like that's just there's just like a thing they can't that's just a bridge they're not able to cross so now we have this like weird disjointed movement where like some countries are like yeah fucking do something but also fuck man maybe turn back i don't know shit uh yeah it's hard and there's only a few
Starting point is 00:28:15 you're gonna make them mad stop yeah you're gonna undermine people talks. Then you have the other nations who are very much staunchly opposed and are vocal about it. But again, because of, you know, they don't have the same standing as like in America or a France or UK, you know, it allows, you know, Israel to keep doing this shit. Yeah. I was listening to an interview with one of the people on the flotilla who was like the Spanish and Italian support was seemed pretty lax. Like they were like, just so you know, if you guys get attacked, we're like not engaging. We're just uh and we're probably not going to be with you much longer because this is scary yeah yeah we don't want to like get dragged into this like as a government but good luck good luck to you good
Starting point is 00:29:00 you um finally we want to say rip uh to jane goodall um legendary primatologist who passed away at the age of 91 of natural causes um famous for living with chimpanzees uh her research was pivotal in proving similarities in primate and human behavior. The video that's going viral is footage of her comparing Trump's behavior to male chimps saying, quote, the same sort of behavior as a male chimpanzee will show when he's competing for dominance with another. They're upright. They swagger.
Starting point is 00:29:38 They project themselves as really more large and aggressive than they may actually be in order to intimidate their rivals. but also like she you know we like chimpanzees I feel like this is a disservice to her message for this to be the thing that's going viral yeah I found it interesting that I did not know our writer jam pointed out she was very open to the idea of Bigfoot go on Jane yes she once said that during a trip to Ecuador locals recalled seeing six foot tall monkeys with no tails, which she speculated could be the last of the Neanderthals.
Starting point is 00:30:15 This is super interesting. Like, this is from the interview. We'd flown for two solid hours over unbroken forest in a small plane. So just all forest to, like, think of the most remote place you can imagine. We visited four tiny little communities, 30 to 50 people, no roads.
Starting point is 00:30:37 They communicate with each other by means of like in the old days it was a town crier but they are hunters and they carry the news from one village to another and letters and things like that so I had an interpreter and I said to him
Starting point is 00:30:51 when you next meet one of these hunters could you ask if they've ever seen a monkey without a tail? Three of the hunters came back and said oh yes we've seen monkeys without tails they walk upright and they're about six feet tall this was an interpreter from the village
Starting point is 00:31:08 he knew nothing about Bigfoot, nothing at all. Every single country has its version. Yeti, Yowie in Australia, Wild Man in China. So I don't know if it's perhaps a myth that stems from maybe the last of the Neanderthals, but then is the last of the Neanderthal still living in these remote forests. And then in another interview, she said, there's something, I don't know what it is. I have throughout my life been very dismissive of people who believe in Bigfoot.
Starting point is 00:31:36 and this is very interesting that she's like yeah no I've been out there there could totally be a big foot right you know there's so much of the world so much of the oceans we always talk about but even a lot of like the world is pretty unexplored you know we have this the one thing that I feel like I've learned as I've gotten more you know read more and lived more is we have this myth that I had like when I first started you know coming out of my my like public school education was that like we have the world locked down there's just like cameras everywhere we know everything we know what's going on everywhere and it's just not true it's just not true there's so much mystery out there i mean this definitely that's that's a good
Starting point is 00:32:23 that's a good uh good co-sign from jane good all to be like that's the best cosign you could probably get and then i wonder how many people are like fuck jane yeah no i'm sure these are probably the last two things she would want people Yeah, yeah, right. I mean, did anyone ever ask her about the 100 men versus one gorilla? Oh, I'm sure. And I'm sure she didn't deign to answer. She'd be like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:47 She's like, 100 men will get cooked. I wish they have no fucking chance. She was actually, what's wild is she was going to do a tree planting ceremony in Pasadena near Altadena as like a way to sort of commemorate like the fires. Oh, wow. Like this week, yeah, yeah, and then, like, she just then passed away.
Starting point is 00:33:09 It was just, yeah. Well, RIP, what a life. What a ledge. True ledge. Yeah. Those are some of the things that are trending on this October, 2nd, Thursday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other.
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