The Daily Zeitgeist - Genre Hopping Superhero Movies, Russia's Fake McDonald's 3.18.22

Episode Date: March 18, 2022

In episode 1207, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and writer Pallavi Gunalan to discuss Pandemic funding - US is disastrously spiking the football, Workers: Fuck it, maybe the metaverse is better than going into an office…, Uncle Vanya’s?, The Batman Is Now The Highest Grossing Serial Killer Movies Ever and more! Pandemic funding - US is Disastrously Spiking the Football America Is Zooming Through the Pandemic Panic-Neglect Cycle Workers: Fuck it, maybe the metaverse is better than going into an office… Uncle Vanya’s? The Batman Is Now The Highest Grossing Serial Killer Movies Ever Watch: Dylan Adler's Lin-Manuel Miranda Spoof Vid @pallavigunalan LISTEN: Bad News by Jasmine HillSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah. It's actual National Sloppy Joe Day and National Awkward Moments Day. So celebrate that. I think you could do that, eating a sloppy joe on a date. Are you old enough that when you hear sloppy joe, it immediately goes to that SNL sketch? Sloppy joe. Sloppy joe. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Come on. I'm fucking 90s brained. Yeah. All right. Well, happy. Wait. Oh, question. yeah yeah come on i'm i'm fucking 90s brained yeah all right well wait oh question did you ever did you grow up eating sloppy joes yeah was that everything that your your family was yeah yeah okay because i remember again immigrant household black dad who was you know probably like at work or something asking my mom for sloppy joe's she was like what is like i remember being a kid and like asking her for it as if she was supposed to know

what the fuck i was talking about i'm like y'all want sloppy joe's she's like i don't the fuck that is i don't know what the words are what sound i had to go came out of your face yeah i had to go to school as my white friends i said okay how do you do it and they said i don't know my mom gets the packet At the grocery store so then I said We gotta get the packet at the grocery store And the second my mom just sort of saw it She's like I can't do this

I can't do this for you Always shocked By how sweet it is whenever I have it Yeah It's like sugar meat Yeah there you go Perfect new name for it it's like sugar meat yeah there you go perfect perfect new name for it hey get your sugar meat your sugar sandwich that's got to be a an american a wholly american creation right like that didn't come with anybody from another land i feel like sloppy joe aka

sugar meat well the name is already fucked up dude it. It's like Sloppy Joe. Yeah. You know what? I bet it comes from like wars that like one of the world wars because that's where the coffee got the name Joe was because Americans drink coffee and British people drink tea. And so they would call coffee Joe because so I bet Slop joe was just something to do with the fact that americans are disgusting american soldiers were just a fucking wreck it's from us though yep coming out of mid 20th century cookbooks well my name is jack o'brien aka sugar meat aka potatoes o'brien everyone's third favorite side dish. Shout out to Monko50. Sent me the recipe.

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That's the way we like to munch our apples. We eat them from the bottom. I just came up with that because we've been talking about eating apples from the bottom. Our guest, I'm telling you, we'll explain it to you, guest. I see you giving me faces in the Zoom. but someone was talking about eating apples from the bottom I still cannot wrap my head around it it's still just so fantastic and odd to me but one last thing before we move on I just want to say looking up sloppy joe one name they used to call it was toasted deviled hamburgers toasted deviled hamburgers that actually makes a lot of sense to me.

What? A deviled hamburger? Yeah, because deviled eggs, you just whip that shit up and make it a little sweeter. Okay. And softer. So a deviled hamburger, yeah. It's just softer, chopped up, sweet meat. There we go.

Sugar meat. There it is. We're still, like, we've spent a lot of time talking about this idea that you eat the apple from the bottom up. They said it as though like the normal way to eat the apple is from the top down. Like you just, it's like,

what the fuck? It's like a lathe, you know, like just, you, you, you go from the outside and then you, you hollow it,

you take it down to the core. But anyways, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious and brilliant stand-up comedian, writer, actor, improviser, and biomedical engineer, in addition to being one of the funniest comics and writers anywhere doing it. She performs across the country

and produces and performs at Funalingus. Please welcome the hilarious, the talented, Pallavi Ganale! Pallavi! I'm, like, already so disgusted. forums at Funalingus. Please welcome the hilarious, the talented, Paula Vegan Allen! Paula Vegan! I'm like already so disgusted. What is this? The Toasted Devils podcast? Toasted Devils podcast.

I'm on the Wikipedia page for Sloppy Joe and it says that in Ohio, there was an ad for it in 1944. Good Things to Eat says Sloppy joe's 10c i don't know what that is originated in cuba oh yeah i was like 10 cc's of meat is that very little bit just it says originated in cuba but i feel like in the 40s they were just like maybe trying to blame cuba for all of their horrors you know what i mean like well it was fancy back then you know what i mean back then that was like this place you're like oh in cuba oh yeah so i think pre-revolution yeah must be yeah i think like i think growing up i also immigrant parents i think i had sloppy

joes at like school lunch like yeah i got to have school lunch but i don't i remember even back then being like i know this is not as good as my mom's cooking no way yeah i think it was more like the assimilation factor that was like gave me comfort i'm acting like the white kids but then i'm like this shit is sweet as fun even on the wikipedia page they call them loose meat sandwiches i'm not i'm not gonna have something that's like found in the pocket of a giant you know yeah that sounds like it's some shit you find in your pocket doesn't it i got some loose meat in my pocket yeah and then the apple core thing that's just that just sounds hedonistic like i don't know't know why you're eating an apple's ass, but like, that sounds wrong. What is that?

It's just weird. I know. I think it's just because the idea, I mean, it's the same like fruit flesh that you're eating, but the idea of attacking it from that angle. Of like giving it a rim job? No, thank you. but the idea of attacking it from that angle like giving it a rim job no thank you yeah but also the utility of it isn't good because you can balance the apple on the bottom of it on like a table like as you're eating exactly and that's why i think that's why you eat from the side

it's because it's easier to hold and like balance and then put it on its head because you ate the ass down to nothing but then okay i just think it doesn't balance as nicely from the top i mean yeah nobody eats the like nobody eats the core except for a few crunchy people who like like to brag about how many how much of the appalachian trail they hiked i feel like that's it's not a normal listen if you want to like 69 a banana or whatever go for it like i'm not i do that's another thing we've been talking about i do like 69 a banana but that's my tip yeah the unholy podcast over here uh what's new with you polyv oh my god okay uh i don't know if i'm i think i'm allowed to say this now, but I started dating this guy

and it went, it's been going amazing. And I'm like, we get along so well. I've been single for five and a half years. Like no one's admitted to dating me. Guys, he's getting deported back to New Zealand. You guys. No. What?

Yes. We found out like two weeks ago and it was ago. We met in January. We just have been getting on great. Then we found out two weeks ago that he found out that through some incident that he wasn't aware of, he overstayed his visa and he has to go back to even try to renew it.

Oh, jeez. Isn't that 100% me? I'm the main character of this story. Forget about him. This is happening to me. You got your new spot. You got a potential mate. And everything was going well until, oh, no, my visa.

I do have a joke about how, like, it's a very hot accent until he starts, until you have to, like, keep a straight face while he's asking for heed. You know what I mean? Right. Give me heed. Dude, everybody. Okay, one one of your producers saying this is a rom-com that's first of all everybody's reaction is like you need to watch that anton yelson film or whatever where this happens to them and then everybody's first reaction is to marry him and i'm like do you not value me i met this man two months ago all of my girlfriends are like marry him and i'm like that do you not value me? I met this man two months ago. All of my girlfriends are like, marry him. And I'm like, that's a rom-com is like all of your girlfriends' reactions.

I was going to say that. And I'm like, nah, she has her shit together way too much for that to happen. Even for me to posit it as a joke. And he's like me. So he also has his shit together. So we're not about to marry each other. Just give me some heat and I'll be out. Just touch my deke and I'll be gone. Touch my deke.

Deke. Oh, my deke. He's going to hate this. He's going to be with the wild Mozzie. Come on, he's very supportive. All right, but yeah. Isn't that crazy? Yeah.

That is crazy. I'm sorry. So he's not like catastrophically overstaying his visa where they're like don't even think about applying they're like yo you gotta you gotta cut out he's not at the i'm learning so much about immigration law right now it's fun right it's so insane he's not like over six months over six months is a mandatory like one year ban i think and so he's, it's only been, like, a couple months, and he's, like, leaving, and there's COVID and, like, other, you know, he just found out. So, like, he's going to try and be, like, I just didn't know. Please, like, let me back in.

But it's very, like, I don't know. It's very arbitrary. Also, it makes you think about, like, the levels. I mean, obviously, we think about this anyways, but, like, the levels of immigration. the levels i mean obviously we think about this anyways but like the levels of immigration like it's probably more likely he'll come back in because he's not like white but he's from new zealand which uh is not like mexico according to like the like u.s politics you know what i mean people from mexico are much more like unlikely to get in just because of how like the types of racism that go on here right and xenophobia i'm just looking at the periodic

table of american racism and yeah you're right that's yeah qualify yeah yeah so it's like it's really fucked up that you like like when you're applying and stuff you have to think in that context of like the likelihood of you getting back in and if you're from a place like mexico or like south america or central or south america it's like way less likely for you right which is insane borders are stupid and that's what we've learned here on the side guys today yeah but you look real stupid when there's a climate migration yeah are you gonna go visit new zealand have you have you thought about that yet yeah i'm not i don't think we're going i don't it's hard for us to

like continue without like a timeline because like we don't think we're going. I don't. It's hard for us to, like, continue without, like, a timeline. Because, like, we don't know when he's coming back. Yeah. But I do think I'm at least going to, like, even if there's nothing else going on, I'm at least going to. I wanted to visit. I'm a Lord of the Rings fan. Okay.

Like, I wanted to visit since, like, middle school. Hell yeah. And I'm not going to not visit because he's, you know what I mean? Right, right, right. I can't, like, overthink it. Don't. Yeah. You're like, I was going to go here anyway. I'm be in the in the shire touching this man's dick and it's

gonna be great yeah obviously miles literally did a collar pull right whoa don't mention the shire in deke i'm a hobbit hoe. I can't help it. A hobbit. All right, Pallavi, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. I think you already have. I mean, if it's possible, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. First, a couple of things we're talking about.

We're talking about the U.S. already being like, so the pandemic, that was wild. Let's move on from that. No more funding, according to Congress. Both sides are just like, yeah, we don't, y'all don't need any help anymore, right? So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about workers cozying up to the metaverse, possibly. We'll talk about Uncle Vanya's, which is the new straight ripoff. It's like McDowell's from Coming to America.

It's a ripoff of McDonald's that Russia is opening up because people are mad that McDonald's shut down. McDonald's kind of took its business elsewhere, and Russians are not happy. But I don't know. This is kind of fun like if so that they're just seizing everything in russia they're gonna like open their own mcdonald's and like that that would be wild if there was just a like kind of black market version of all american products in russia like yeah that's it's it's just this like weird conversation between like capitalism and like the soviet union and just watching it like you're like ah we got you with

our mcdonald's like suckers yeah it's like when india made like thumbs up which is like coke but their version of it it's like it's called thumbs up yeah it's but it's spelled it's spelled wrong there's no b in it and it's like okay i like that and i'm like i love it i prefer it to coke and so i always nice yeah i think it had how similar is it it's a little bit different i think i like it better honestly yeah but yeah it's like pretty similar and it's it had to do with coca-cola leaving india in like the 70s or something like that and then they like i think they came back and there was like weird weird issues but there's like i'm sure there are like so many cases where capitalism has

like like and the like withdrawal of it from different countries has like led to these weird like forces the hand right yeah the little thumbs up hand we don't need it we got this thumbs up yeah and then we're going to talk about the fact that the batman is now the highest grossing serial killer movie ever it's gonna it's gonna pass uh silence of the lambs even inflation adjusted over the weekend and so I just want to talk about the fact that genres are now just like different kind of coats that various superhero movies try on one at a time. And that's how people find out about them. And I want to talk about if that's a good thing and also which genre they need to try on next. All of that, plenty more. But first, we like to ask our guest,

Pallavi, what is something from your search history? Okay, speaking of the COVID response, I saw this, this isn't fun. I'm not a fun person, get used to me. I saw last yesterday, or like the last couple days that COVID's been spiking in like Europe and Asia again. And so then I was like,'m gonna need more masks and so I went to look at different masks and then I was like I heard some masks aren't actually like approved so then I went to like the CDC's list of neosh or neosh ratings of masks and like the different brands and I was like cross-referencing them seeing where they were being sold and I'm like this one's not approved and this one is and why can i find it in black i was like i was like going through like their their technical like list

looking at them then by the end you're like fuck it i'll just get the one that's not registered because it's got the color i like uh i ended up i did end up doing the one that was registered but looks like shit. I'm like, this one... They know what they're doing. They put the brand on the front of the mask and they look like shit. It looks like you're supposed to work on a construction site with them. You know what I mean? Rather than be at comedy shows with your mask on.

But I'm like, whatever. I'll look like shit. But be safe. I don't care. That's who I am. Yeah, why not? My favorite mask that is, I think, still approved is the Air Queen, which

is just a quote from Korea. Air Queen? That's a slur against the queer community. Yeah. It's like a pillow princess, but the air queen yeah getting me in trouble a lot but it's a good mask it's a good mask what can i say yeah it is there is so much to go through like that the fact is the factory registered to make this type of mask and if not is it have a

is it registered in general to make these kinds of masks but this mac specific kind of mask hasn't been approved by the fda but it is pending like a emergency fucking whatever it is i almost did my head in trying to buy masks like last month it was it's like a specific kind of evil for people to make like fake fake masks and fake hand sanitizer during a pandemic i'm like that that capitalism mindset it takes like a specific sociopath to do that you know what i mean oh yeah right what uh what's something you think is overrated okay i think this is overrated but i do it and i participate in it and i enjoy it so skincare it's, we don't know what's working. We know some things are working and I will buy so many things and put it on my face because it feels good. Like the hydrating

shit feels good, but let's not pretend this isn't, you know, us trying to have a physical means of dealing with our depression. Do you know what I mean? Like we, so many of us are just buying all these products that maybe make us break out more because all of our skins skin is different, but like, I'm still loading that shit onto my face. I'm still like, like I got droppers and stuff and I'm just like,

yeah, I have to put this one on first and this one on after, because I read it one time. You put the lotion on first? Oh, the lotion. It's wild. I like, I definitely, Oh my God, you put the lotion on first? Oh, okay. The lotion. The lotion on. Fucking hell. It's wild.

I like, I definitely, it feels good, but I'm like, this isn't like, I don't know how much this is doing to like clear the blemishes or whatever, but I'm like participating in. What would you be using for hyperpigmentation? Are you using faded, A313? Oh, I do use, I use topicals faded and I also have like a tretinoin thing. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, that helped me with some hypertension. As I say this, not going to guarantee that it works for anybody listening to this. Nah. I know this. Okay. Somebody had like a tweet that was like, uh, fuck, I wish I knew who it was, but they had a tweet that was like uh skincare is is like similar to like diet culture where like everybody's like recommending based on how you look all the

products to buy and like right and it's not necessarily guaranteed to make anybody like feel like actually have better skin or whatever it's just like we're trying all these different things you know right yeah oh but i'm still gonna buy that shit yeah i got to got to got that i feel like it kind of exploded during the pandemic a little bit like people were staring at themselves and in the mirror yeah i remember when face masks like once it started getting into like the gold one, like all of the, like there were, I thought face masks were like sleeping masks until a certain point. And then it became like this, the synonymous with skincare. And I was like, oh, this is crazy. Right.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. Those face masks. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Tubs. Okay.

Hear me out. When I was moving moving i had tubs of stuff oh uh miami vice oh what i don't know crockett and tubs it's an old people's reference from the 1980s that's totally clearly what i meant 100 i I meant both versions of Tub. Save yourself, Pala V. Let us die in Shugiedom by ourselves. Go live. I just gave in to admitting that I'm fighting aging and you guys are like Craggin' and Tub. Craggin' and Tub.

I better remember Craggin' and Tub. Most people think the Waterworld stunt show at Universal actually used to be the Miami Vice stunt show before. Don't tell any of these youngsters before. They just changed the name. Don't tell any of these youngsters, though. They won't listen. Why are you guys talking normally?

That's actually how they sound off podcast. Hey, thanks for coming back, Bobby. Oh, shit. Did I let my regular voice slip in? All right, I'm back. I like tubs. I like tubs. I like tubs of things. As I was moving to my new place, I was just like, let me just load it in my tub.

Now I have a tub of my workout equipment back there. I'm showing you guys. And a tub of my plant care stuff. I fucking love tubs, man. They're like- Easy. Plastic. They don't break.

You can put whatever you want in a tub. Yeah. You can reuse it. want in a tub. Yeah. I can reuse it. I'm so old. I love tubs. Hey, you're not old enough to get that Crockett and tub. So you're right on the tub spectrum. I love.

Yeah. You're like, I like moving tubs. And we're on this side being like, I miss Miami Vice. I remember show with that name in it. The Man in the White Blazer. Yeah. What's the container store? Do you like to go into a container store?

I'm sure I would. I love Daiso. I love the little containers at Daiso. I think that they have a lot of cute shit. I bought a cute-ass broom. It was adorable. Shut i but i'm not i'm not a i'm not a crate and barrel or like what is it yeah i'm not a like a like a big a big tub person because i don't have like as much space for it so i feel like i just i've just been using tubs that like have come into my my my possession from like old roommates and stuff i haven't had a real chance to

go like ham on tubs yeah you know sometimes i could at lowe's or some shit they'll they'll be running their sales i'll pick up some tubs because it's easy because like i'm i kind of hoard some stuff like like some documents and shit because my dad was like audited years ago and he's like you gotta keep all this shit man you never know something okay okay and so i it's nice to have like tubs that you know i'm like this shit is not gonna fucking fall apart because it's cardboard i can use it my children can use these tubs and their children will use these tubs and i have like i have tubs of like indian clothes and accessories and i'm like it's the indian wedding season gotta bust out my tub i like i

have tubs of like i like to save like sentimental things like cards and stuff from friends and so i got my like sentimental tub you know okay yeah yeah and pretty soon you know you just accumulate tubs and tubs and tubs and pretty soon your living space looks like one of those container ships. Yeah. That's where we're at. My wife and I have been married for almost 14 years and it's just been a process of steady tub accumulation. Oh, really? Yeah.

And we got some that are not the color they were when we purchased them. Oh, no. Yeah. And I don't even really know or want to know what's in them. And there's just not, there's no conceivable future in my mind where I'm like, all right, time to dig into these tubs. Yeah. I think they're just going to be there until, I guess, my kids go through them.

Burden your children. Yeah. Whereas my children will use the tubs. They're going to be your children's burden. Right. I think about that. I thought about that when moving because I moved out of a place that I didn't have to take everything out.

It was being passed from like roommate to roommate. But now the landlord's family is moving in or something. And so I had to clear out decades of shit that like wasn't even mine. And I was like, and so when I moved into this place and I was like buying a small trash can for the kitchen, I'm like, I'm going to be staring at this trash can for maybe decades. So there was like so much more pressure to buy something that like was like cute, but like reasonable, you know what I mean? I was like, the stuff that we like surround ourselves with sometimes like we have clothes from like 15 years ago but we also have like items in our house that

are like we're gonna have them forever you know and i'm like it's like such a it makes purchases so much more difficult i'm like who am i gonna even be in 20 years yeah what garbage can do i want yeah you just open it up once like we've all died off and there's like a museum of culture like in station 11 you can make a good my kids will make a good living selling off our you know tubs full of first generation ipod chargers and oh my god i have three tubs of electronics i still have to go through all the wires yeah right just a rat 30 pin 30 pin apple cable kids now this one this is a four to six prong firewire converter yeah why do we save the apple phone boxes i i know i'm doing it because it costs so much money yeah that's why the boxes we're like no a phone like yeah i do the same shit i have my fucking i bought a laptop like a couple months ago i still have the box i'm like man why

are we doing a lot of money yeah because the boxes they come in are like nicer than the ones that i'll probably be buried in like they're really fucking nice your coffin you can slide out your coffin like a matchbox like an apple iphone hell yeah we're like we're gonna shove jack in and it comes with a free sticker too put me in that wall we gotta charge jack up yeah yeah all right let's take a quick break and we'll back and so i guess congress basically is over over the pandemic yeah i don't know it's so they passed a $1.5 trillion spending bill this week. And the thing that was notably missing was it was the proposed like $15 billion in COVID funds, you know, to fucking fight the pandemic. The White House, they were like, even publicly being like, we really want Congress to know how bad we need this money.

really want Congress to know how bad we need this money, which because they were really talking to Republicans in the Senate who were like, according to us, I don't think we need to spend money. But again, this funding is desperately needed as part of our pandemic response, which has already been so fucking inadequate that it looks like a fucking prank on people.

My friends and I were like, why the fuck have we, none of it, like we don't't none of us got masks from the government is that insane like we haven't even we like got like like four tests if we like we're living alone right right and then we got zero masks or anything this whole time which is insane right and on top of it there's like oh yeah they need like stimulus or checks to stay afloat just that you get taxed on like what don't worry about it don't worry about it don't worry about it so

to give you an idea of how like desperately needed like these funds are so and this article from ed young in the atlantic is just talking about like what the timeline is basically for this money because if it runs like the effects of this money not being in the funding bill will be felt pretty much immediately. He says next week, the government will have to cut shipments of monoclonal antibody treatments by a third. In April, it will no longer be able to reimburse health care providers for testing, vaccinating, or treating millions of uninsured Americans who are disproportionately likely to be unvaccinated and infected. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts come june it won't be able to support domestic testing manufacturers it can't buy extra doses of antiviral pills or infection preventing treatments that immunocompromised people are banking on and we're also going to have to scale back efforts to improve vaccination rates in other countries that's just because because they fucking because Republicans put up a fucking fight in the Senate and Democrats are like, ah, it's too much. All right, fuck it.

Like, well, let's figure right now, Democrats and, you know, I'd imagine maybe two Republicans are trying to figure out how to get this money to come through. But at the moment, the Republican strategy was just sort of saying, well, what about all that money that the states have for pandemic response? Why don't we dip into those funds and they're like no no no those were intentionally set aside for their own preparedness and response efforts so you remember at the beginning of the pandemic when like people were like oh the states can provide ventilators and then like jared kushner was like hoarding the federal ventilators or whatever like he was trying to like it feels like that again it's like what like like how is this different you know if we're expected to like

win elections in 2024 how are we how are we going to do that if we're not like providing a response that's adequate like like the the change isn't that significant yeah yeah i mean i think it's given him out to chase clout like at least we're not there where like the you know president's family is it's like uh we gotta we gotta get a warehouse full of those so that we can like get some favors back and like get invited to some cool parties this weekend but i mean yeah it's fucked it's and also you know this is just a cycle of ed young points out in this article of like pandemic, like panic and neglect that we do this with every single thing in the West. And especially in this country, it's like there'll be a lot of money in the beginning. And then all too quickly, it's forgotten, neglected and just waiting for the problem to become worse because we just figured that initial amount of investment and attention was going to do it. And like, again, most people were saying we needed

to fucking beef up all of this shit. And this is against the backdrop now where COVID like where multiple municipalities and states are dropping their mandates, whether it be for masks or vaccines, but their whole thing where they're like, don't worry, we're going to drop the mandates. But the sick part is we're going to have have better treatment better testing to be able to get into this phase of the fucking pandemic but all that money was supposed to be fucking funded by congress that's supposed to be approved by congress so it's not even that doesn't even feed into this like new era of like you know uh mask freedom that we're experiencing like all the shit that was supposed to support that is not there at the moment so all it's gonna take is another serious

variant and like we'll be just thrown into absolute chaos because we're like we're not even doing like the proper like monitoring of cases and and like and variants that are emerging because all the funding is slowly being dialed back. That cycle of everyone pays attention to the same blockbuster news story, basically. It's one story at a time, and everybody, it starts. This was like shark attacks that summer. Right, it was like shark attacks that summer,

but is it getting getting worse or does it just seem that way like it does feel like we are getting like the fact that we just went through a pandemic where one of the major stories like kind of coursing throughout the whole thing was like how underprepared we were and how we would have been even more fucked if like George W. Bush hadn't like seen a TV episode that like talked about the possibility of a pandemic or something like that. You know, preparedness was awful. And like we're right back to being like, yeah, but, you know, Ukraine is really what's hot hot right now so we're not gonna like pay much attention we're not gonna that's not our not really what's getting the butts in the seats

getting the votes right i think like individually like we've noticed how like people can have all the information and still make like horrific choices and so it's like it's not necessarily like even preparedness or understanding it's like it's just like getting people willing to like to take the right steps like i definitely feel like individually like at the beginning of the pandemic i was like please don't do your comedy show and they were like oh like i was like providing them with like cdc stats and stuff and my friends were just like you're like really smart like my comedian friends were like because i worked in infectious diseases so i was like explaining this shit to them and they were like you're really smart but we're still going to do the show there was like no convincing people who just like wanted to do what they wanted to do and like systemically politically like as

like a group congress and whoever like they're doing the same shit like they you can't make people do stuff even if they have the information. Yeah. And I think the part that makes it worse is that it's really the toll that it's taken isn't like, you know, buildings being blown up and shit and cities being fucking destroyed. It's it's it's the the damage is not very like out there. It's like you have to look for it because it's people dying in hospitals and people just grieving. And you deal with like a group of people like politicians who are already, you know, like we already know that the, this pandemic affects people like according to class that you,

people at the top, they're experiencing the pandemic in such a different way that it's, you know, it's informing their idea of what the pandemic even is. And that's where we see it when we don't see the kind of urgency to be like there's no fucking way we can just like take our foot off the gas with this with the pandemic response but there's also leaders there who truly well and they believe they're like i don't know it's bad like eight months ago from what i

from what i saw anecdotally so maybe it's time to move on yeah i do like i i'd be interested if anybody has any articles or like like you know thoughts any listeners hit me up but i'm just curious like about like whether the monoculture and like the our ability to process like only one story at a time is getting worse because it does feel like we just like skip from tragedy to tragedy yeah yeah all right well not now let's get into the solution folks yeah i'm talking of course about the metaverse get pumped get pumped everybody so you know i i have been skeptical from the start i just like couldn't imagine a world where suddenly people were interested in using like a 2008 version of virtual reality like but this you know there's just the will there there's like the intention from rich people and therefore it's not going away

to make this a thing and yeah like you're starting to see it everywhere people you know at companies that we work with are like talking about the metaverse and like how this is like a thing everybody's going to be trying out and shit and it's just like have your events in the metaverse right it's just so funny in the metaverse this like this like reminds me of like how they kept trying to push google glass on us and we were just like no i don't want it it reminds me of that but it but it's it's holding like yeah we were we were like no get the fuck out of here with google glass and they were like okay we're sorry i know they're ugly and with this one we were like dude are you like even stupider than google glass and they just like kind of looked at us and we're just like so the metaverse though right yeah the matter but i don't know i'm having some hope because like like with crypto and like nfts like nfts values are

dropping like a crazy amount or whatever so i'm like maybe maybe this won't hold you know like maybe it'll hold for like an annoying amount of time and then maybe it'll go away well i feel like nfts the model is like if you're assuming that the way things work in the u.s at least is that like rich people get richer which seems to and like have all the power nfts are all that doesn't seem like everything i've learned my whole life and nfts the rich like they're designed to be like scams where rich people get people to invest and then the bottom falls out so like yeah i feel like that's operating as it was intended to like they just didn't tell anyone that that was the intention but with metaverse

like you know one of the five richest people in um in the world i think has his entire fortune like tied up on the in this and like probably a lot of his very rich friends and now like we're seeing this is the first time i've seen an argument where i'm like oh yeah maybe people will be using the metaverse like a year from now what a what what a boring thing to invest like some dumb like vr shit like why not make animals talk you know what i mean like think of something more creative. Well, actually, you could have an animal abbey in the metaverse. I hate this. So your friends could actually have a conversation with you where you appear to be an animal. Jack, you do that voice too well.

You ask talking animals, I give you the metaverse. I give you the whatever. What do we call it again? the metaverse. I give you the whatever. What do we call it again? Metaverse. I want you to do that to your wife. This is going to result in divorce for sure. But every time you're like, I give you clean dishes. You ask, why didn't I do the dishes?

I give you clean dishes. Putting the kids to bed. There it is. But yeah, there's this like new poll with the metaverse, you know, evangelists. They're all pointing to that. There's like this work trends poll that's showing that people who are talking about using metaverse technology or emerging technologies at work, that group is beginning to grow. So there was 52% of these respondents

of employees are open to using digital immersive spaces in the metaverse for meetings or team activities in the next year. 47 are open to representing themselves as an avatar in meetings. Then they say like Gen Z and millennials are 51% and 48% respectively, that can actually see that their work could somehow, like do some kind of work within using the metaverse, whatever that is, then Gen X, it's only 37% boomers, it's 28%. But more than like, when I look at what that where that openness comes from, I don't think it's that necessarily Gen Z and millennials, like, dude, I want to use a metaverse. Like, dude, if I don't have to go in a fucking office, i'll use a fucking metaverse if that's the binary like let's suit up right fucking now because i don't want to go to an office instead of suiting up yeah and i think

when you look at like how this all works right a lot of the push of the go back to the office like energy that we're seeing through government and the media, a lot of it has to do with the fact that commercial real estate took a huge shit in the pandemic. You know what I mean? Like decimated the demand for office space, as many companies, they were able to move to remote work. And that shift absolutely smashed the pockets of developers and people who own massive tracks of like commercial buildings and things like that. But it also helped the residential real estate market. So getting asses back into the offices is a huge, like it, like that's all part of like a strategy to help recover the commercial like office sector. And that's where I kind of like this metaverse idea because it's almost like you're seeing this tension between this, you you know traditional tangible like

world that real estate deals with and then these people who back the metaverse are almost advocating for another version of like using space that isn't tied to the physical world and saying maybe that's where you do it why would anybody want to do this over zoom that's what that's my thing is like that's the hard one see jack come on now that's that's the thing that i'm there they didn't ask a follow-up question where they're like okay now zoom or this other shit right that's like question two yeah and the person who asked it just like got pulled off stage that's that's 100 like what i'm curious about i guess the reason that i brought up like nfts and like crypto specifically like more crypto is that i feel like crypto is a thing where it creates the problems it's attempting to solve

where it doesn't really solve any like new problems and i feel that way about the metaverse i'm like the more i'm all about like automation and technology and innovation like i think that's like really important but i think that there are certain technologies that just like create more problems than anything that they're trying to solve. Right. And I think like like with like digital currency and going into crypto and then things like this, it's like how this like how this fuck is like like different generations and different people from people from different like socioeconomic backgrounds. How are they supposed to like accept this this technology that seems to be like more difficult and unnecessary than like zoom you know what i mean like it just seems like they're trying to complicate the office situation or like like

just like interacting with people in general they're they're making it more inaccessible you know right yeah there's too many and they're painting it as more accessible like they're like you don't have to come in but you have to build an avatar and wear this fucking mask you don't have a vr headset fuck no i have a i have a felt like self-facing camera on a laptop bro if i have to update my headset before a meeting they got me looking dumb in here with the fucking egg avatar in this meeting someone didn't update but yeah it is it is it does seem like right now we have we've very much found a way to be able to connect get things done you know with just using video that we can now see

each other's facial expressions that, that can, that can help already take away some of the need for office space. But yeah, this idea that, well, no, now we've got to take to the metaverse. Well,

that's, I just, I don't understand. Like, maybe I just don't understand the metaverse enough and Jack in that voice can explain it to me. But like, what,

what is, what is it offering? Like, what is it offering that zoom like can't practically solve for an office situation probably you asked for uh talking animals uh i think you mentioned the when i'm here on zoom with you i don't look like a talking animal but were we to enter the metaverse i could see like a sick concert and i could be a talking animal that's all i got i'm i'm changing up my filters right now i'm a fucking talking animal right now

yeah what now what talking animals do you need now i think mark zuckerberg probably likes it because he can't see people rolling their eyes at him like in the metaverse whereas if it gets good enough you better be able to right like the only way i could see it is if like it's so it's like i'm talking like the matrix type shit for me to be like oh i see that's how we use it like the shark mouth was that a fin on your head uh yeah i have a shark coming out of your mouth and a fin coming out of the top of your head. But it's like a full shark face coming out of just my mouth. Like, the nose and the eyes are also, like, this one.

Part of it. Okay, on this one, the metaverse might be ahead on the shark filter. You look like Bane at a children's Christmas, or a children's birthday party. The shark one. I was born in the darkness. I was born in the darkness like look at my fun look at my fun mask i was born as baby shark molded by mama shark okay amazing okay all of you has been shown off the fact that zoom can totally do uh animal faces

and okay don't tell people because my metaverse stock just to get dumped i had a feeling that this kind of came out of nowhere like you the article that you're linking off to is just a i guess it's a blogger this is so funny to me because the byline is miles gray no No, it's Giles Ray. Giles Ray. Oh, I assumed that was a typo. That's not even a name. This is so funny to me because we're onto the metaverse and somewhere people at Skype are like,

we'll make a comeback. Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's brains just churning 40 hours a week trying to come up with... Like, so much of of america right now is people spending tons and tons of human capital on terrible fucking ideas that are never gonna get off the ground

i guess that's always been like capitalism but that's definitely happening at skype and i still use skype every once in a while so wait for what like is it for like fun to have a conversation with a older therapist relative right yeah there's there's also like certain like tutoring organizations and stuff that require skype like some places do require skype or like other weird web-based uh video conferencing apps which is strange see there's they still got a little bit of foothold. All right, let's take a quick break, and we'll come back and talk about other stuff. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer

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And we're back. And i know you're back too because of that killer tease when i said that's right other stuff through it uncle vanya's is trending this ain't the trending episode whatever man i got a lot of tables uncle vanya's is the the new knockoff mcdonald's in russia yeah which i kind of love this for the world a world where there's just like a a shadow bizarro capitalism universe that's happening in a different country and they're just like the fuck you're gonna give us more sanctions what haunted doll creature does their version of the grimace look like like what oh my god what does their ronald mcdonald look like i'm like what if they what if they just look like normal people it's just like hi i. I'm Grimace.

It's a really pleasant looking young lady. Just like, her name's Grimace. That's it. There's nothing really strange about her other than that. But yeah, in Russia, right? Since a lot of Western companies have been ceasing or halting business there, McDonald's being one of those, we've seen there's been clips of like russian people

scrambling to get like in one last order before like the mcdonald's closed there's one guy who chained himself to the doors of a mcdonald's like saying like to make like it's not fair to cut someone's like hamburger access off and it's like unjust and you know clearly mcdonald's has a hold on people no matter where you go it's just it is fucking what it is. And when the restaurants opened 32 years ago, people were losing it. And you can just tell that like McDonald's has just always had this place, especially for countries that have not been completely smashed by capitalism or there was a little push pull between the two that people like always look at McDonald's as like sort of this like lifestyle thing or this place that you want to go to. And the Russian parliament, like seems to understand that this is a need for the people to have some sense of normalcy, which is why they decided to do something about it. They've, you know, in Moscow, decided to have like they would fund to the tune of like

millions of like dollars, I believe, but whatever that equivalent is in rubles, like of a new Russian fast food chain called Uncle Vanya's, which is just a crudely converted McDonald's M, like their logo is just a crudely converted McDonald's logo to look like Cyrillic or B, which is really a V sound in Russian. So that's their way to get around this. Yeah, they just tip that shit over on its side and put a little line on the bottom.

It looks like if you did the least amount of work possible to convert the McDonald's M into a B. Yo, are their ice cream machines also not going to work? Theirs actually work, shockingly. It's the only place where they work. Everything where we went wrong, we're righting the wrongs. Actually, I will say, based on what we know about the mcdonald's ice cream machine story they would be more likely to work because they would be allowed to use the company that figured out how to fix it is now suing mcdonald's for like five billion dollars because mcdonald's like

shut them down because i I don't know. Hey, $900 million, Jack. Oh, my bad. You know, they're not greedy. But, you know, the Russian government has been discussing seizing foreign assets within the country ever since their invasion began. And, you know, there's also potentially having a law that would sanction this to make it just pretty easy to just say, Oh, yeah, you know that old McDonald's? I just blasted the old logo off and put my own up there. And it's called what you know, whatever the fuck I want to call it. The their trademark office in Russia has already gotten like all kinds of applications for other businesses that use like

some form of the McDonald's logo or the name. And because they're like, man, we don't recognize these trademarks as being valid. They're being granted. Now, what happens? Who knows? Because, you know, obviously the good capitalists of the West have threatened more sanctions if you start seizing the businesses. But like you said, I think their biggest problems aren't going to be, you know, administrative. Like, where are you going to source all that

natural quote-unquote beef and pink goo that you need for chicken nuggets that's where i think consumers will probably notice the difference in like the actual product yeah are you saying the ripoff product is not going to have the same quality as the actual product is that what you're saying i have a feeling or it's like better and people are like this is actually healthier for you yeah it could go either way this reminds me of the history of fanta if you ever have an opportunity to read the history of fanta which i'm it i'm saying it like this to make it sound like i read a book it's actually just the Wikipedia page of Fanta. But basically Fanta was a product that the Coca-Cola company within Germany that got like cut off during World War Two for being Nazis.

And, you know, they were like, well, we don't need your bullshit Coca-Cola because we have this Fanta. bullshit coca-cola because we have this fanta and it was this like fruit flavored soda that like the idea was the same idea as today but because nazi germany was kind of strapped with all the uh all the stuff they had going on there there was like they had going on there was like just like great rephrasing of the Holocaust. Well, among many other just horrifying things that they had going on. We got a lot going on in here in the Third Reich, man. Why don't you give us

a break? The product was just horrible. I think they said there was glass in it. Oh my God. Yeah, there's just bad chemicals in this shit. Bad vibes. Yeah, there's just bad chemicals in this shit. Bad vibes. Glass, bad vibes.

And yet, it's lasted to this day somehow. So, think about that the next time you drink your Fanta. Don't you wanna Fanta? Don't you? Yeah. Maybe not. Maybe I don't wanna Fanta. I do.

It's just interesting to see how consumer culture infects and becomes even a thing that like this government is now being like, fuck, man, people like people are in a pattern of consuming in a certain way. And like we kind of need like we need that as part of the stability model, which we already see here in this country with, you know, our bread and circuses show that continues without abating but yeah it's it's just kind of wild to see this sort of evolution of mcdonald's being a thing that was couldn't be in the soviet union then shows up it's a huge thing when it leaves now it's like it's just you know or or like the fact that that guy likes like hide himself or like locked himself change himself to a mcdonald's that's, that's a wild, like that, that's like a right that they're fighting for. Not like a right,

but like, you know, something that they're fighting for. That's like wild to conceive of. Right. Cause imagine if you were, I mean, I,

I know there are people who eat fast food every single day. And some people eat the same thing at the same fast food restaurant every day. It's not the healthiest shit, but like that would, I can imagine for for that person what would happen if you're like yeah that place won't exist anymore here yeah yeah anyway look there are a lot of reasons you might find yourself chained to a mcdonald's i'm not asking questions yeah no big deal it's happened to a lot of when are the ice cream machines gonna work it's me screaming outside of Burger King now.

So big news in the world of box office, boffo BO. The Batman is now the highest grossing serial killer movie ever, or will be after this weekend. Wow. Spoiler. Damn, Batman's a serial killer? Yeah, Wow. Spoiler. Damn. Batman's a serial killer.

Yeah, dog. I know. It's like. He's at least a serial puncher. You know. Yeah. He's got some issues. Okay.

Wait. So when you say it's a serial. Like who. Are you just saying you're making that distinction or. No, no. That's. That's the distinction made by box office expert Scott Mendelsohn. Okay, interesting.

Who I do like as a writer. Okay, Scott. Go off, Scott. But yeah, I mean, I had kind of gathered that from everybody comparing the movie and the Riddler to like Zodiac and yeah. Sorry, you said Ted Cruz? Is that what you said? Yeah, exactly. To Ted Cruz and the movie Seven, also based on the works of Ted Cruz. Is that what you said? Yeah, exactly. To Ted Cruz and the movie seven also based on the, the works of Ted Cruz,

Ted Cruz, seventh birthday. But yeah, I guess the Riddler is sort of a inspired by the killers from those, those movies. He's got a little bit of a serial killer vibe and that like definitely seems like, it seems to be the color palette they're working with and right based

on the trailers so mendelsohn was just making the point that like you know these like if you actually take into account that these superhero movies are sampling these genres then like the highest grossing world war one movie ever is wonder woman the highest grossing like gritty 70s adult drama is the joker the highest grossing conspiracy political thrillers captain america winter soldier and the highest grossing high school movie is the first spider-man the first tom holland spider-man right so they can't just like label these as superhero movies superhero movies need to be other movies now because it's like there's so many of them. Well, I think there's also like those are also a good sampling of like some of the more successful superhero movies of the last five to ten years.

Yeah, I think those all came out in the last six months. Those all came out in the last six months. last but i think i think that is like the new playbook is you you know just go and take all of the moves from like this entire genre of movies that like existed and you know made a bunch of really good movies you just like pull the highlights from that put it in your movie and it's not uh it's not a thing you, film film reviewers might be like, oh, that's like a lot of, you know, moves borrowed from Seven and Zodiac. But like the the majority of the audience is going to be like, whoa, that is the most original thing I've ever seen in my life because it's a PG-13 movie pulling moves from R-rated movies that came out 15 years ago. Did you know they're doing a new

Suicide Squad that's very eat, pray, love? Did you guys know? They're just all trying to find themselves in Italy. Vicky Cristina Barcelona, but with some of the suicide characters. The second Tom Holland Spider-Man is... Paul Giamatti is in it. Is the highest praying,

you pray love inspired film, I believe. Oh yeah, that's true. It does take place in Europe. Yeah, that's true. Sampling the sites. I don't know, like I'm not here to say like, this is a problem, like our culture's fucked. No, that's

inevitable yeah it's kind of the natural evolution like superheroes are definitely like our national like greek myths you know whatever like it's represents a bunch of stuff about america and like how americans want to view themselves and like i i feel like that will be a lasting legacy from the period of time that we're all living through is like, and these people were really into these fucking people who had capes on for some reason. Right. Like weird masks. And one was called Superman. I told a New Zealand guy about how I loved like batman and superhero stuff and he was like yeah that's very american and i was like whoa whoa whoa why does that feel like an insult

yeah and it was that always feels like an insult though it's like it's the same like yeah yeah i need any family from outside the u.s like that's the same like yeah yeah i need any family from outside the u.s like that's so american like yeah okay maybe okay ouch wow it's like when white people get called white and they get really upset about it they're like whoa why are you using this slur against me don't call me american and i'm like yeah you're right x-men is my yeah i like the guy with the metal fingernails he's my my favorite. I fucking hate the military industrial complex, but love the propaganda that upholds it. I can't help it. But at least I know it's propaganda.

So that's how I know it's really not working on me. Aha! Aha! Take my money. Give me my McDonald's and thumbs up. But yeah, there is like this, you know, yeah, there's no, there's, yeah, I don't know how you could have a problem with it. Like all art just iterates on itself like there's no artist who says i was not inspired by anything

else i grew up in a vacuum devoid of anything that would have informed my taste and i just started making things i mean there are some people who you know maybe remote places who do that but every single person is always you know everything's being informed by a previous thing that's a very batman take it's like i grew up in a vacuum devoid of anything i just started creating very bad man i was actually raised in the darkness so yeah molded by it actually just like this sculpture they're like that's that looks like the statue of david but just with a huge dick this time huge downstairs i because i'm like a fan of movies more so than like tv like i i think what's happening is like the stuff that's like more straightforward like genre stuff is getting is being turned into like series on like streaming yeah and then movies

have to be these like big plays at like massive audiences and so i do think it's not great that like the sex and the consequences of the violence are removed from all of these genre exercises like i like a world war one movie with fucking you know like just people no i'm just i was like jack oh my but yeah i just feel like a lot of the humanity gets shaved off when you turn it into a massive blockbuster yeah so it's like you're marrying these two different subjects but one of them very much happened and the other one is like our fantasy of what could have been or something yeah yeah that could like like wash over what his what happened in history yeah but you know there's still great shit being made everywhere and

in other countries and so yeah like uncle vania's we know that there's still great shit being made everywhere and in other countries. And so, yeah, like Uncle Vanya's. We know that there's great shit. Oh, yeah. I mean, where's that? Like, what was that movie with? Was there one with Michael Keaton is playing like the head of McDonald's? Yeah. He's played Batman, Beetlejuice and the head of McDonald's.

What can't this man do? I fucking love Michael Keaton. I love Michael Keaton. Uncle Vanya drama pic good man yeah i think who knows probably yeah no seems like a good enough guy palavi it's been such a pleasure as always uh having you where can people find you and follow you i'm uh at paula vegan allen p-a-l-l-a-v-i-G-U-N-A-L-A-N Everywhere

I'm most active on like Twitter and Instagram but I'm also on like TikTok And I was on Clubhouse I don't know if I'm still there but I'm like am I Oh yeah what happened to Clubhouse Is Clubhouse still open? It's still going there was definitely like a community That was but I don't know

I don't know how popular it is right now But there's still people on there i still have like my clubhouse friends you know they're hanging out and maybe with this next wave we'll all reunite again back there yeah but yeah you can find me everywhere there i'm also i uh co-host co-produce uh funalingus and that's gonna be back april 10th at hotel cafe at 8 p.m it's super fun it's all female and non-binary comics and it's a dope show every time it's amazing yeah is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying okay i want to i want to hype up two

of my friends uh but they're fucking amazing vinnie thomas and dylan adler i love them so much they're such sweethearts and they're're also like, they make the funniest, great tweets. Vinny, Vinny's Twitter is like, so many animal facts turned into jokes. I'm like, I didn't even know people knew this about it. But it's like, it's so funny and like unique and very silly. And he makes like these really funny video like videos of like him and like it was I think he did one about like the capital the interaction but it like it's about like the you know for the guy in charge of uniforms or whatever so he does like all these really funny videos and then dylan adler uh which is at dylan a d l e r six that's his his twitter he does he's been doing a lot of funny videos he does lyn Lin manual Miranda impressions. And he just had one video of like a quick change backstage.

It got like over 300,000 likes, like not even views likes. Okay. And it was like him taking like way too long to get ready. And it's just like, he's just so fucking funny, but, uh,

it's, he's incredible. He's so funny. And I, everybody should go follow those two people. Nice. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? incredible he's so funny and i everybody should go follow those two people nice yeah miles where can people find you what is the tweet you've been enjoying just seeing the video yeah it's like

people taking way too long it's like a minute of quick change and then people were like people underneath all these like music theater people like, is this a joke? And it's like, yes, it's a joke. It looks so real. Yeah, he's putting on seven sweaters and someone gave him go-karts. And someone's doing makeup on the back of his neck with a brush. So stupid. Good physical comedy.

Great physical comedy. You can find me, Twitter, and Instagram at milesofgray and also the other pod, 420dayfiance And also Basketball podcast coming soon We'll probably test that out Beginning of next week, Jack And I'm doing a little basketball podcast

What? We like it Oh my god The ink has dried Oh yeah, it's gonna be sick Real laid back It's going to be sick. Real laid back. Real laid back. I love those guys.

It's like Daily Zeitgeist with basketball. If you could pick five people to be on your basketball podcast. You. Me. Okay. The three of us and then two more people. Three of us. We got to get like Jamie Loftus, maybe.

Jamie Loftus, known basketball freak very tall oh okay this is this is actually play no no this is still for the podcast but and uh let's see uh dana donnelly dana donnelly my co-host i love dana yeah amazing there you go and another great basket basketball legend dana donnelly we all know yeah y'all don't know but she will dunk on you oh i've seen the footage straight wind millery happening um okay so a tweet that i like is going to be from jurassic park updates oh my god park to go this one says sorry we we keep forgetting some of these fuckers can fly so look out for that i saw that one today i knew that was the one you're gonna

i love jurassic park updates what an evergreen forgetting some of these fuckers so funny pterodactyl a fucker. This is so funny. Fuck. Oh, fuckers can fly. I saw that one today. I was like losing my mind. Amazing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

Boots with the fur tweeted, high key embarrassing to be caught inching at stoplight. You getting excited? And that is an embarrassing feeling. Somebody asked if The Fugitive counts as a St. Paddy's Day movie? Yeah. Yeah, dude.

Of course. What the fuck are you talking about? Anyways, you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes.

Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? Let's go on with some light R&B. Something that'll make you feel like, it's back in the old days of the late 90s and early aughts, when that new soul sound of R&B was tickling our eardrums and this is from a local artist la's jasmine hill and this track's called bad news and this is an artist i'm just like kind

of randomly found on a recommended playlist doesn't have a lot of things out but i like her voice is great the production is like like i said it feels very like, you know, nostalgic, but still current. So all those things together should give you a nice Friday. OK, so this is Jasmine Hill with bad news. All right. Well, go check that out. The Daily Zeitgeist, the production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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