The Daily Zeitgeist - Geraldo vs Hannity, Grinch > Cops 12.16.21

Episode Date: December 16, 2021

In episode 1052, Miles and guest co-host Jacquis Neal are joined by podcaster and comedian Jon Grabus to discuss All those texts from Fox hosts on Jan 6 IS JUST A MEDIA SMEAR, Cops Need to Leave The G...rinch the Fuck Alone and more! All those texts from Fox hosts on Jan 6 IS JUST A MEDIA SMEAR Geraldo Keeps It Real With Hannity Cops Need to Leave The Grinch the Fuck Alone VIDEO: Hewitt PD arrests Grinch at city's Christmas Tree Lighting Cops Continue To Misunderstand the Entire Point of How the Grinch Stole Christmas Deputies arrest ‘Grinch’ who stole a vehicle in Highlands Ranch LISTEN: Ninjarous (feat. MF Doom) by Danger Mouse & Sparklehorse Listen: The Movie Buff Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:06 That means the adult has left the room and the substitute teacher who smells like a pre-rolled blunt has entered the classroom. That's right. Welcome to Season 215, Episode 4 of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. It's the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared, assorted consciousness. It's Thursday, December 16th, 2021. Normally, that's when Jack would say, and that means obviously, Miles, what national
Starting point is 00:02:36 day is it today? Well, let me tell you, it is National Chocolate Covered Anything Day and Barbie and Barney Backlash Day. Now, I have a... I a i've wait this has to be from those fucking people again from wellcat.com who put up this goddamn fake holiday for those of you who didn't listen yesterday we kind of got to the bottom of some of these holidays that are invented and about 70 of them come from a couple in i think australia where they're just making stuff up and
Starting point is 00:03:02 making them holidays but either way shout, shout out to Chocolate Cupboard. Anything. It's a wonderful, wonderful thing. As I said, my name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Jingle bells, binding smells, Congress at the bed. Trump mobile couldn't stop this deal, but we're fucked anyways. Hey! Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:23 That's from the brood off the red-nosed reindeer on discord shout out for that wonderful holiday inspired aka and i'm thrilled to be joined by my guest co-host someone who is just an indomitable host a talent an improviser comedian actor i feel like writer engineer almost anything that you could possibly do, this man can do it. And I am very pleased and honored to introduce my co-host for today, straight from Chicago, Illinois. It is Jackie Neal. Neal on me. When you're not strong. And I'll be your friend. And I'll help you jackies.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Oh, no. It won't be long. Before we all need. A jackies to kneel on. Sing it with me, y'all. You just call on me, brother, when you need a hand. We all need a jockey to kneel on. That's all I know. That's all I know. What up, nigga? There we go. Hello, hello. Oh, man. You know, today is chocolate covered day. I am chocolate covered. That's why they asked me on.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Welcome back. What's up? You got a favorite chocolate covered food item? I actually hate chocolate, man. Butterfinger? Oh, that's right. Butterfinger, boy. You put that peanut butter, crispy, crunchy, and some chocolate in that shit. Butterfinger boy, you put that peanut butter, crispy, crunchy and some chocolate in that shit. John, you look, you give me the look. Wow. Butterfingers and butterfingers. You didn't even intro the guest and he's giving us facials. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah. We haven't even introed him. I'm giving him shit already. What else? He turned his camera off. What else? Y'all didn't hear that audience. You don't know who is on the show today or the title of the podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You don't know. You don't know. I don't know. Chocolate covered things are disgusting. I think they're fucking nasty unless like it's a chocolate bar or some shit. Wow. Okay. Look.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Sorry, white people. Sorry, chocolate industry, but I'm not going to abide. You know, nice dry, big chocolate. Well, I guess you might as well just get to it. I'm sorry. I ruined it. Look, our guest today, someone who, you know, I first knew through podcasts. Then eventually being on each other's podcast, we became very familiar.
Starting point is 00:06:01 We became pretty friendly. We found out we have a lot of shared interests uh you might know him from you know i don't fucking anything that's funny because this guy's an l-e-g-e-n-d in our books but i guess to start off maybe you didn't know about him from ucb so maybe you saw him on guy code maybe you heard him as uh the intern on comedy bang bang maybe you heard him team up with Lauren Lapkus, talking about how they was raised by TV. Maybe you know him about Action Boys.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Maybe you know about High and Mighty. I don't know. I could keep going, but let's welcome Long Island, Strong Island's very own Mr. John Gabrus. Yo, it's John Gabrus, a covered everything yes hell yeah yogurt covered raisins both the grossest slash whitest food ever yogurt covered raisins like hey neither thing tastes good yeah do you remember seeing those things like in a grocery store like in the nut section you're like those might be good because they look like candy.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And then you eat it and you're like, what the fuck? I think it's, like, congealed fat on an old raisin. That's the most kid shit ever is like, okay, this looks as close to candy or cookie as, like, when you're eating, like, fucking, I'm Italian. So, growing up eating biscotti, it's like, oh, yes, it's like a cookie. And then you eat it. It's nothing like a cookie, but it's the only thing in's like a cookie and then you eat it it's nothing like a cookie but it's the only thing in the cabinet i broke my canines on how hard it was i don't have a baby tooth yeah that was like i remember in the early 90s like when biscotti like just like took
Starting point is 00:07:40 over the u.s well like i guess some food executive went to italy and was like hold on man they ate these things that i thought was a straight up bone and it's a fucking it's an amazing companion to a hot beverage is that what a biscotti is i've never had a biscotti because i don't drink coffee i feel like you have to drink coffee to have a biscotti right like that's the natural typically yeah that's why it hits so grossly when you're like 11 years old and you're, and like your parents are like, well, it's better with coffee. It's like,
Starting point is 00:08:07 well, I can't have coffee. They didn't give you that. They didn't give you that best part of waking up when you were 11. No, I didn't start drinking coffee till after college, uh, until I moved to Brooklyn and I got caught up in the culture of it,
Starting point is 00:08:20 like going to coffee shops. And now I'm addicted to caffeine. Wait, which culture is that? Uh, I think that's Brooklynoklyn uh brooklyn hipster culture where you're like let's meet at a cafe and you're like i don't really drink coffee and after you've had your like fourth iced tea from the fridge you're like let me just try a fucking coffee so and then all of a sudden you're like wow this shit it works i see why every adult needs it. I'm growing strong.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I still don't do, I'll go and I'll just have water or tea at a coffee shop. If somebody. Good for you. You fucking freak. I don't like chocolate. I don't like coffee. Get the fuck.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I don't even know how to relate to you, dog. I know you don't. I know you don't. You vanilla covered and I'm chocolate covered. That's not the part I have a hard time relating with. The difficult part is, if given the opportunity to have one thing of chocolate, you would have a Butterfinger. I want to write you fucking off for that. Yeah, his head almost fell off. I was like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:09:15 You upset John. I don't like chocolate, just Butterfinger. It's like, that's like saying, I don't like music, just record scratch. Yo, man, record scratch is tight, man. You better hold your bites, your tongue. It's a whole aesthetic texture. Wait, you didn't start drinking coffee after college?
Starting point is 00:09:31 What did you do to stay awake in college? Amphetamines like the rest of us? Yeah, I had blue boogers every once in a while in college. Early 2000s, Adderall was blue. There it is. And you would wake up in the morning, blow your nose.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Why did you take apart that gel cap? It's time released. Yeah, yeah. But you can kind of chop it up into the parts you need. Anyway. I got this thesis. The blue drip, baby. Talking about how Jews were othered in the New Testament, starting with the stoning of Stephen, isn't going to write itself.
Starting point is 00:09:59 That paper. Here we go. I was a radio TV film major, so I didn't have to do anything of importance. That was foolish. It's crazy that the last 10 years it was weird to have radio. I'm like, oh, I'm so old. I have radio in my college major. And now at 40, radio is probably the thing I do the most.
Starting point is 00:10:18 The new version of radio, whatever this shit is. I'm like, holy fuck, full circle. It's back. You hear that children don't let anybody tell you college doesn't matter it doesn't work gabrus is putting his degree to work i went to theater school and like whenever i want to sound important i say oh my degree is in communications yeah oh okay that's what i say but But it's true. I'm communicating. You are. No, 100%. How have you been otherwise, Gabrus?
Starting point is 00:10:47 I saw you've been on a sojourn around the wonderful parts of this earth. I went on a cruise around French Polynesia with my wife and in-laws. And, I mean, not the ideal companions for a trip like that. But, I mean, yes, my wife is an ideal companion for a trip. I don't need to go away with her parents after having them at our house for a week leading up. But this is the most beautiful place on earth, man, so far that I've seen. It's everything I want. Wait, more than Long Island?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah, it's weird. It's a bunch of short islands, but it still hits harder than even one Long Island. Okay. Polynesian culture is so interesting. The food is awesome. Everything is beautiful. Everyone references James Cameron where they're like, James Cameron owns something over here.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And you realize this is where Homie came up with Avatar. Because the wildlife is so different. The ocean is so clear. And we know Avatar 2 is all underwater. I guarantee it looks like Bora Bora,ora huahini and all these all these islands because right they kept talking about how much he loved because he's
Starting point is 00:11:50 also a scuba guy and shit so they were talking about how much he loves it there and i was like this makes total sense now i'm going to re-watch avatar tonight after going to french poland a newfound enjoyment of everything after being in french polynesia i've never been in water that clear with the exception of like a diving tank in high school swimming. Like this was just so fucking unreal, the visibility I had. I scuba dived with like 40 sharks, like a full school of reef sharks. It was fucking terrifying and exciting. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Highly recommend it. If you have the means, get yourself to French Polynesia. I think a cruise is an expensive and dumb way to do it. There's probably way smarter, cooler ways. You'll figure it out. I was just tagging along on my in-laws vacation. Also, cruise life.
Starting point is 00:12:38 We all know Jacque loves cruise life. I didn't know that. That's exciting. I've been on five cruises and I'm going on my sixth one. I'm going on my sixth one. I'm going on my COVID cruise in April of this year, baby. Did you see those ads that Carnival put out looking for comics to perform? And it was like the worst perks. It was like, yeah, man, you can get a room for a second.
Starting point is 00:13:03 There's no talk of money. It it's just like and you'll have access to the dining car one hour before you know what i mean like and it's all like wait where am i getting paid in there it's like oh you think the carnival ride is like yeah you gotta ride the elevator with people you bombed in front of like i don't want to be at the buffet and being like hey you said a weird uh joke i'm like hey, hey, don't make eye contact with me, please. Look, man, my shift's not even on yet. I got to go do balloon animals in the kids' deck in about 14 minutes. Which is true.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Which is true. Oh, man. Well, before we get to know you even better, John, let's look at some of the stories we're talking about. One of them being those damn texts that all those Fox hosts were exchanging on January 6th. We talked about how they were read aloud, but now we just want to watch them kind of, you know, pivot and get very uncomfortable trying to explain that, you know, how they very clearly saw that what was happening was being controlled by the president.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But we'll touch base with the sort of their explanations there. We'll also talk about one of the insurrectionists from January 6th, who I didn't really know about, who got to the he got to the insurrection late, but he still managed to fuck around enough that he found out in a very federal kind of way. So we'll touch base with that. And also the cops. Again, we have to talk about the cops. We have to talk about the cops, but this very specific form of copaganda, which is the arresting of the Grinch every fucking holiday season that we see. And just how pervasive it is and just like that. It's really just a low key, like, you know, psyop to get kids to, you know, love the police. So we will tackle that and many more things. But first, Gabrus, John G g let us know something from your search history
Starting point is 00:14:46 that you know just reveals something about you well this will be pretty obvious but uh the most recent one i have is short board shorts size xxl and that i mean never go away baby that i mean never go away, baby. I mean, never go away. Never, ever. Hard to find. Hard to find short board shorts in my size. So that's what I'm on the hunt for. If any listeners here are girthy individuals and have access to short, vintage looking board shorts. That's what your boy's in the market for.
Starting point is 00:15:20 What are you looking for when you say it? What's what? Like, not just a swim trunk, a short trunk, but it has to be a board short. It doesn't have to be, but I want board shorts. I need a little stretch. I need a little shortness to show the thighs. You can't really surf in a budgie smuggler, which is what I normally wear at the beach as a speedo, but you can't really surf in it because it could chafe your thighs and stuff. i'm already getting roasted by
Starting point is 00:15:48 every surfer that's out there as i am on a fucking 10 foot foam padded board like it's like a fucking canoe and i'm just wiping out in the fucking shore break they all know i'm a kook so i just i just want to be able to uh not look not also be in a speedo. Oh, got it. So you don't want to immediately be ID'd as a kook out there. Yeah, I need like one. Slamage. Yeah, exactly. I need one layer of illusion.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah. Got it, got it, got it. Coming up to the water, you want them to be like, ah. And then when you get in the water. This guy might have what it takes. And then when they see me in the water, absolutely floundering with my nipples bleeding, they know what the fuck's up. You're Nariana Huffington out there. So I was in Hawaii a couple months ago, and I went to a beach.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And surfers be cracking me up, man, because they always pretend. They was like, yo, you're not going to get in the water. I was just laying on the beach enjoying myself. Had a little cut water vodka mule or moscow mule and drinking enjoying myself and then this like surfer dude comes up hey man you want to join the class you want to get in the water and i was like oh man no i can't even swim like that he was like you don't need to swim i'm like nigga stop lying yes you do you gotta know how to swim to surf you can't You should never say to someone that says, I can't swim. You should go, nah, get in the ocean.
Starting point is 00:17:10 You shouldn't even get on a fucking, you love cruising and you can't swim? I get some lessons just in case. I mean, I'm pretty far. I can stay alive on a cruise. I'm not falling off the boat. Someone just fell off, a woman not falling off the boat. Someone just fell off. A woman just fell off the boat in Mexico. And swimming didn't help her.
Starting point is 00:17:30 She did. No, you're right. Fair enough. Fuck it. Never learn to swim. You fall off a boat. Swimming ain't going to help you. You go.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Hard to argue that, bro. Especially if the person who pushes you off doesn't say anything never let the captain know oh yeah that's wow she was saying something and then uh vanished that's weird yeah i guess maybe not i don't know let's check her maybe check the casino she must be one of those spots check that state room the scene of a murder always but yeah uh you know i like short shorts too i'm thigh gang i recently i had a suit made for myself and i really like pants are always the hard bit to get tailored and when i was getting fitted the dude getting my measurements was like yeah you know you would probably always need to have made like pants custom made he's like the seat he's like
Starting point is 00:18:22 your waist is at 34 but the actual seat that you need for your thighs is of a 38 so you could either go 38 and have them tailored down he's like but yeah you would have trouble finding pants that normally fit you because and every time i wear pleated pants the pleat is gone because my thighs are too thick every time i'm the same i have huge thighs a big belly and no s pants fit me in the weirdest fucking ways dude like they hang off the back they bunch in the thigh and they're like flapping in the butt i got mad space and look let's be honest i got extra space in the front too uh you know i got no ass no dick big belly thick thighs thick thighs, clear heart, can't lose.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Can't lose. I look like you remember the old Montreal Expos logo that basically looked like a D and a B. That's how my thighs and ass look. I got big thighs and a big ass. And so pants just don't. Pants be fucking me up, man. Pants be fucking me up man pants we fucking you got that back porch that we love so much i got that back porch baby cabers uh what's something you think
Starting point is 00:19:30 is overrated cars i'm tired of them i'm uh the pollution what they're doing to our beautiful earth that uh i the fucking they're they kill people all the time i've been trying to live a more pedestrian life in the quarantine like in the last couple all the time i've been trying to live a more pedestrian life in the quarantine like in the last couple years in la i was like i'm gonna just go to more close places and i'm gonna walk more places or i'm gonna walk for dumb errands for both like fitness and like connecting with the city more yeah and it really being a pedestrian in la really changed my viewpoint of la and and like when you go to all these fucking european cities that are like you can walk everywhere in barcelona and it's like
Starting point is 00:20:10 socal has the weather we should be biking and walking everywhere like drives should be for only over two miles like and if we just made it safer to walk or to bike both in like you know there's like crosswalks every like 11 blocks on melrose and it's like this is so deep and people just keep like kick two lanes out of there put an electric bus in there give me a bike lane so that these scooter things aren't dangerous and shit just cars in general are overrated and they're just getting bigger these fucking protester plowers that people are buying like these F-350s and shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:46 It's like that's just more gas, more size, harder to find parking, harder to see on the road as every car gets bigger and shit too. It's like we're just heading in a direction where – and people are like, I need the big car to feel safe. And it's like we shouldn't have to feel – like it should just be safe. We shouldn't need, like, extra. Like, so we're doing something wrong. Cars are fucking overrated. And I understand that they're part of the American foundation, but so was racism. And we should get rid of both.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Not to equate the two, but a lot of shit that helped build America we do not need anymore. Yeah, don't have somebody come by to do a foundation inspection on the home that is the U.S. because it's going to be like, oh, my God. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. There's like crimes against. I think the foundation is a crime against humanity. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Either way. Quite literally like the movie Poltergeist on a native burial ground. Like, oh, yeah. Not to mention all the other awful shit in the last few hundred years. We're just trying to compound the karma to the point where it just makes sense when people read about the eventual demise of this place. I think, too, like, I mean, honestly, you know, I mean, you're from New York. I'm from Chicago.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Sorry, Miles. You're from Los Angeles, right? That's correct. Yeah. The Valley, one of the most unwalkable places. One of the most hostile places where I grew up walking barefoot on asphalt that was hundreds of degrees to the point where like i use it as a rite of passage i'm like oh you're wearing sandals my feet are the calluses on my feet baby yeah but i you know like the more walkable places i mean
Starting point is 00:22:21 you know i've never been to many europe European cities, but in America generally have public transportation. And that's our big thing. Because if you have public transportation, like you said, anything over two miles, well, with public transportation, you can take that. And then you can still live in a walkable city, even if you have to go over two, three, four or five miles away. I feel like if we pitch, yo, LA, if we get public transit, you could look at your phone your entire commute and not risk anyone's life. Everyone in L.A. is drunk, stoned, or on their phone while driving. It's like those are all three things that are completely safe to be on public transit. Get high as fuck and look at your phone.
Starting point is 00:23:01 You can watch a movie on your phone as you commute to work. Doesn't that sound appealing people because the question is is someone who makes less than 130 000 a year and doesn't go shop at whole foods is there a chance that they might step off one of these uh metro stops in my neighborhood which is always the thing that stops because fucking beverly hills and santa monica is always like the they always deliver the death blow for any like major transit project because they're like we don't want people getting off here yeah fuck you i mean because you know we go robbing when you know we robbing people you know that's obvious but still yeah we do uptick in shoplifting crimes once the the subway is built well what's wild's wild, though, too, is even in L.A., like, statistically, I'm pretty sure, like, property crime's gone down, which is an interesting fact.
Starting point is 00:23:51 But we still have, you know, got to beat the drums of, hey, man, they tried to defund the plume gun. We need to put more people out there because someone went to CVS to get food for their baby. Who needs it. Public transportation also blows up a little bit of the central city system where it's not as crazy to live outside of the city if you have an easy way in and you don't have to take a 101 jammed with traffic.
Starting point is 00:24:15 We have insanely expensive real estate. We are all on top of each other. If we get some fucking public transit or the bus from past altadena down like we can all move a little further away from the city center and still exist like you can live in the quote-unquote outer boroughs of los angeles yeah i would love to live in pasadena i feel like i feel like it's a huge problem solver it's like like public transit allows
Starting point is 00:24:42 also fuck santa monica and fuck beverly for being like, we can't have poor people coming into our town. You don't give a fuck when they come in to work at your fucking restaurants and shit. Or be your valet. Don't make them think, John, with some complex thought around that. I don't want to be like the racist one percenter, but you can go to Beverly Hills and be be like this would make it easier for people who work here to get here and there'll be less cars on the road so you can all have your white ben's suvs lined up in fucking on the street without having to share a park in front of crustacean when i used to when i used to be a tour guide and was driving the rasta bus in la oh you saw the rasta bus tour
Starting point is 00:25:23 you used to drive the rastabus dude i had no idea that's fucking wild i drive that rastabus do you know how nerve-wracking it was to drive down rodeo drive with a fucking maserati or a goddamn porsche or a lamborghini and my big ass i'll hit a camry all day but i don't want to hit this fucking rolls royce i guarantee the owner of the rolls royce is litigious af oh of course he is of course the camry will be like oh man it's all good bro it's just a little scratch you good everything iry like to the rostov yeah it's what because that's the other part of beverly hills though it's the most expensive cars where people drive worse than the rest of la somehow like when i used to work at playboy they're headquartered out there like right by the city like civic center down there beverly hills
Starting point is 00:26:16 anytime we would go walk into beverly hills for lunch there wasn't a time like you could set foot in a fucking crosswalk and have some asshole who wasn't looking turn making a right turn just like cutting through the sidewalk you're like i just need to man up take this traumatic brain injury real quick and get a great lawsuit settlement out of this and then i'll be good but beverly hills is the best place to go if you want to get hit by a lime green lamborghini these motherfuckers bottoming out, going into the fucking parking garages and shit. It's like, just drive a normal car.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Like, for fuck's sake. Then how will they know that I have generational wealth? I'm 19 with an inexplicable car. Gabriel, so what's something you think is overrated? I'm sorry, underrated. Underrated. Oh, okay. I'm gonna have to go with the movie The Last Duel.
Starting point is 00:27:06 It got a lot of fucking heat because... Oh, really? Yeah. It's mad good. It's a Ridley Scott period piece. It looks fucking magnificent. It's pretty funny. And yes, it does feature sexual assault,
Starting point is 00:27:21 but that is the crux of the story as a sort of like everyone telling their version of the story and if if all these people who are up in arms about it watched it it it lands in the right place but it's of a time period that it were awful for women and i think they demonstrate that in the movie ridley scott is like 80 something years old and he dropped two of the biggest movies of the year that and house of gucci that's fucking baller shit for a 80 something year old british guy to be doing also i bet from from a studio perspective i think maybe a terrible move like that maybe they're cannibalizing each other by having two films out at the same because i remember i saw a write-up
Starting point is 00:28:01 that's like well was it ridley scott blaming millennials for the poor performance of the film yeah we don't like to watch shit or what do you say like attention span or something it was that was not true because we fucking watched four hours of infinity war what they don't understand is also it's like no you're not making movies for millennials like that's not that's not what millennials are watching. No matter the length, you can make a 90-minute movie, but they're not going to see. I'm 40, and Ben Affleck and Matt Damon are kind of old and corny to me. I love them, and I'm a huge Affleck apologist. I think he's a fantastic actor, even better director.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Oh, yeah. But I understand that a 22-year-old doesn't give a fuck that Matt Damon and Ben Affleck are in a Ridley Scott period piece. Those are all words that when I was 22 would make me, I wasn't, you know, when I was in my early 20s, I wasn't seeing good movies, but I was going to the movies. Going to the movies is even less of a thing now because it's a fucking pandemic, Ridley. It's expensive. And people would rather watch fucking tv everyone has fucking 60 inch screens in their house it's a hard competition i'm a huge purveyor of going to see movies in the theater it's like it's a true communal experience but ridley scott you're
Starting point is 00:29:17 off base saying it's like attention span based and also like all the billboards and shit now you know i'm 35 so i love movies i love good movies. I'm a movie guy. I love the theater. It also doesn't appeal to me to see like more white people on billboards in a period piece. Like I don't go see an all white movie, but a period piece. Like, come on, man. I don't want to see that shit. I don't go see an all white movie, but a period piece. Like, come on, man. I don't want to see that shit. I don't want to see it.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Further back in time. Just tell somebody else to give somebody else the fucking mic for a second. Yeah. Chances are you're going to have a way better fucking movie. The thing that Ridley Scott said was that, you know, that he was asked, I guess he went on,
Starting point is 00:30:01 he went on Mark Maron's podcast. This is where it was said. And he was asked about you know like what do you think about the performance like was it the promotion that disney maybe messed up on he said no disney did a fantastic promotion the last duel is low performance oh he said the bosses loved the movie because i was concerned it was not for them but they really liked the movie so their advertising publicity etc was excellent i think what it boils down to, what we've got today are the audiences who were brought up on these fucking cell phones. The millennium. Okay, his words, the millennium do not ever want to be taught anything unless you are told it on the
Starting point is 00:30:35 cell phone. This is a broad stroke, but I think we're dealing with it right now with Facebook. There is a misdirection that has happened where it's given the wrong kind of confidence to this latest generation i think also man when a motherfucker is gonna finally learn that millennials we ain't the latest generation no more i'm technically a millennial that's how old he is 39 yeah well i also think let's stop asking 80year-olds how they feel about modern culture. It's like these people were alive when you sat at a different fucking counter than someone who looked different than you. It's like I don't need – like stop asking Marty Scorsese what he thinks about Doctor Strange. He's a fucking old man who makes a different – it's like going up to fucking Bob Dylan and being like, how do you feel about Twitch DJs?
Starting point is 00:31:27 Dude, it's just not the same, man. Honestly, I would love to know that answer. It's a completely different fucking medium. And everyone loves to... Oh, the Disney execs loved it. I can't believe kids didn't love it. Well, no shit. If a Disney exec loves your movie, a 22-year-old...
Starting point is 00:31:44 Yeah, exactly. That's not a sign that it's zeitgeisty. Well, no shit. If a Disney exec loves your movie, a 22-year-old, yeah, exactly. That's not a sign that it's zeitgeisty. That was an accent. Oh, man. I highly recommend it when it comes out on VOD or streaming or whatever. Definitely check it out.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It's funny. The violence is amazing. And yes, it is all whiteheads, but they are a lot of the best working whiteheads out there. Damon, Affleck, Driver, and Jodie Comer. Everyone's fucking great. Put it on the list. Wildly white movie.
Starting point is 00:32:17 They're like, they're playing French knights, and they don't speak in French, so it's like you could definitely have a brother in there. If you're not going to like in the show, the great where they're all Russian, they don't, there are black and Hispanic brown people all over the,
Starting point is 00:32:34 all over the show. And no one speaks with a Russian accent. Everybody's like, if you're going to go the conceit where to make it more palatable for modern culture, go one step further and show some other people there but yeah don't use like this sad argument like well it's not like actually an accurate depiction of what was around there's like but they're talking like they're like southeast actually
Starting point is 00:32:55 yeah like we have boston france like what the fuck is this oh yeah we're in roxbury fucking france near nice uh anyway matt damon has a mullet and Ben Affleck has blonde hair. Blonde hair. It might be worth it just to see those freaks like that. I guess I'll look just for those costumes. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back and we'll talk about, like, I guess less important news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling, first-hand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
Starting point is 00:34:08 It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance.
Starting point is 00:34:39 It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States
Starting point is 00:35:03 to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of my Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels,
Starting point is 00:35:33 into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white and prints. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team?
Starting point is 00:35:59 I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On the segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up.
Starting point is 00:36:24 In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church
Starting point is 00:37:06 and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. you get your podcasts. And we're back and time to check in on Sean Hannity and Laura Ingram, some of the people over at Fox, you know, who had some explaining to do in regards to the now public text messages that they exchanged with Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows, on January 6th. And I think it was pretty clear to anybody who,
Starting point is 00:37:49 you know, whether they read the text or heard Liz Cheney read them aloud, that they were the words of people who knew that Trump was in control of what was happening, that he got them to gather there. He got them to march on the Capitol. And when shit really started going down, he was probably the only person who was going to be able to pump the brakes on the whole thing. Yet, even though those texts said that, things like, you got to get them to do something. This is destroying all the work that's been done. This is like an absolute, like this is a disaster. You know, despite those texts, later in the day, we had Ingram on there being like, I'm pretty sure that we don't even know who those people even are. They might be Antifa, who famously look like boomers with substantial retirement plans and wear Ugg boots and, you know, fuzzy red, white and blue knit hats. I can guarantee you anyone who calls himself Antifa doesn't have a Roth IRA.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Like, relax, tough guys. Or calls himself Antifa. Right. Relax, tough guys. Or calls himself Antifa. Right. And dude, the most insufferable person who does that is like, yeah, dude, I'm Antifa.
Starting point is 00:38:52 So yeah, dude, cause like fuck Trump and like all that shit, dude, like fascism, like fucked up. Like I'm Antifa. I get like, maybe you, yeah, you are diametrically opposed to fascism in that sense, but you know, you don't need to be going out there. Like that's like your set. Oh, that's your claim. Maybe you are diametrically opposed to fascism in that sense, but you don't need to be going out there.
Starting point is 00:39:06 That's like your set. Yeah. That's your claim. Yeah. And anyone who is so anti something that they call themselves, everyone should be anti-fascist. Red flag. Everybody. But just like, and not to bring QAnon back up, but anyone who's that anti-pedophilia, that it's on their mind that much, you gotta be like, bro. You're thinking about it a little too much, bro.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I agree. Pedophiles are fucking bad. Objectively, it should never happen. We have to fight that. If it holds all your thoughts all day long, that's probably very bad for your brain. I agree so much that I go
Starting point is 00:39:44 probably six days out of the week without thinking about it. What was the time? It's just an ingrained philosophical value that I hold within me. Yeah. I don't have to think about it. It's in my core. Yeah. I don't need to wear a t-shirt that says, if someone had a t-shirt that said like, let's stop pedophilia, I'd be like, what's making you promote? What's on your mind, man? And why are you putting it on my mind now? Yeah, I don't want to think about this shit right now. I was eating my burrito, man.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Or if I'm like, I'm actually so like against racism, you know, like it's like so bad. Like it's actually like the worst thing ever. Like I'm just like against it like every time. So you're like, okay, that sounds like a new personality you're trying on but unlike those fine people the people at fox you know they continue to just carry water for the president and downplay the insurrection and we're not even touching on the fact that the president's chief of staff is on a text relationship with hosts of the network that is propaganda for the right wing. Like, we're not even addressing that. We're going one step past to be like, what the fuck are these guys doing?
Starting point is 00:40:57 They know it's wrong. And it's like, wait, it's even crazier that they all can text Mark Meadows whenever they want. Like, that's a bad sign a bad hey get him to say this get him to say that or he can say you need to say this uh hi mark meadows here make sure we you know explain that portland is on fire so that uh white people in long island could be scared the amount of people who have asked me about fucking like crimes in L.A. from my life that have no relation to Los Angeles. They shouldn't be on there. Like they've got people.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Fox News got people. My aunt will say shit like hear what they're doing in Australia. I'm like, no. And why do you know? And why do you care? Get the fuck out of there. Do you know what they're doing in your local township at all? Oh, you don't know that.
Starting point is 00:41:43 But you're aware that you think they're rounding up the unvaccinated in australia and putting them in camps i don't think that's happening i'm sorry hey i don't know it's a handy set but so tuesday you know they had to basically put the full court press on trying to do some damage control because yeah those those texts made it clear it's like yeah you guys knew how bad it was you knew who was in control of it yet you went on the air and you said the exact opposite to spin it for your audience because that's what you do you lie and this is all about optics in the worst possible way so gaining and holding powers all that fucking matters yeah absolutely so the first thing uh i just want to play hannity's defense he's he's got a few different ideas on like what's what's really
Starting point is 00:42:26 going on here. And what those texts actually said, it wasn't like I knew like it was bad. Like I'm just saying stuff. I don't know here. Let's just listen to him in his own words. In a weak attempt to smear yours truly and presumably, I guess, President Trump, Congresswoman Cheney presented one of my text messages from January 6th to Mark Meadows. Surprise, surprise, surprise. I said to Mark Meadows the exact same thing I was saying live on the radio at that time and on TV that night on January 6th and well beyond January 6th. And by the way, where is the outrage in the media over my private text messages being released again publicly? Do we believe in privacy in this country?
Starting point is 00:43:08 Apparently not. It's not my first rodeo. Like the thousands of Hannity text messages released to the public over the years. Okay, so he's going to go. I'm sorry. I have to cut you off there, Sean. So sorry about that. He spun it into, first of all, let me just lie and say, and that's what I did on TV that night.
Starting point is 00:43:27 You did not, Sean Hannity. You went out there and you said it was Antifa. We could watch it. That was the big thing. You know we can watch it again, Hannity. He knows. Luckily, he's talking to an audience who doesn't look. Yeah, he's talking to an audience who doesn't look.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Or an audience who was watching then and will be like, yeah, he did say that. No, he didn't. You know he didn't. Shut up. Also, him bitching that his privacy was invaded by someone reading his text out loud, he does know that it was read aloud because it was subpoenaed evidence in a criminal case. If you lose some rights to privacy, unfortunately, due to our intense carceral state, you do lose some rights to privacy
Starting point is 00:44:05 even rich white people have to deal with that shit and it's like your text is not public it was read in the fucking conference i mean what happened though what happened to our sense of privacy what happened and he also knows that if it was something that he wanted to you know bash that he would throw some private text messages up on the screen of his show. Yeah. Yo, if that nigga would put my text messages up
Starting point is 00:44:33 on the screen, if, like, it would prove a point that he was right. I love Butterfingers. You see? The Negroes in this country are on some weird shit. We gotta, we gotta, we can't let them vote. Now, we've got black people who don't even like chocolate.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Now, this is what the Democratic Party is doing to people. This is what the liberals want. This is what the liberals want. They want only butterfingers and raisins with vanilla. So, you know, again, they've just been struggling with this
Starting point is 00:45:04 because it was so clear he can't really speak to the material you know content of these texts he has to completely pivot to what happened to privacy you know because i'm used to this because i've been you know i remember i got caught up with michael cohen who was also an investigation and some texts were leaked then you know as part of an investigation. He later says stuff like, you know, these leaks because of like FOIA requests. Those are Freedom of Information Act requests. Those aren't leaks.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Those are people are those are accessible to people through the Freedom of Information Act. It's not your privacy again. It's so wild how many like millionaires and people in power. The thing I always go back to, and this is a really random analogy, is as a Giants fan, Plaxico Burris one time shot himself in the leg in a club. And my dad said something to me at the time. I was like, that's so crazy. My dad goes, at some point, you're rich enough to let someone else carry the gun. And you're like, that's 100% true.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And Hannity could have a producer who's in touch with these people, but no, cause he likes the ability to be able to text me. And that's where you're too close to the fucking fire, dude. If you had a right hand person who did those texting for you, you'd be on top. You'd maybe still be considered an objective journalist. But now every story you do about mark meadows come should come into play
Starting point is 00:46:26 that there's a major conflict of interest if you can text that person right but i mean unfortunately for sean haney he doesn't have the self-awareness to realize he cheddar bobbed himself with those text messages coming out you could have somebody else carried him for you my man but it is what it is so the other thing is i haven't thought of cheddar bob in a long i mean i felt like that was the whole like when plaxico shot himself everybody was like yo for all my old heads anyway so sean hannity you cheddar bob yourself what can you say so the next thing that happened was he had geraldo on and sadly geraldo had a working set of eyes and a brain on january 6th
Starting point is 00:47:17 and he wasn't as like accepting because you know that's what geraldo does he he likes to be all sometimes he'll say the right thing sometimes it's a completely just most absurd nonsensical thing but this day Geraldo chose fucking chaos and during this segment they were basically they had Dan Bongino on
Starting point is 00:47:37 to basically talk about what about all the other riots that year why this one that they keep talking about and Geraldo's like okay well let's sure but let's talk about this specific one for a very specific reason this was a riot that was unleashed incited and inspired by the president of the United States which targeted the heart of American democracy the president didn't say no. You can. That's your opinion. The president said peacefully. No, no, stop.
Starting point is 00:48:08 The president said peacefully, patriotically march to the Capitol. That's your opinion. I don't even want to go down that road. That's not the question tonight. The question is this corrupt committee. The question is why this right and not 574 other rights. The question is. I think the reason is like because of what geraldo said
Starting point is 00:48:26 it was uh instigated incited and you know raw rod on by the fucking president that's why and it was on a government property it was on like it it wasn't like a a window being broken at a chase bank on fairfax you know what i mean like this is like this is and that was and let's not even get into the motivations of both different quote-unquote riots the protests were stop killing us this was no our guy won like that those are two very different vibes those are two very different levels of justification in my book and and riots on one side were incited by the people who should have been protecting us because we were upset that they were killing us and riots on this side were incited by the people who should be protecting us and it's like hey right this way y'all right
Starting point is 00:49:21 this way folks you want oh you want to flick it up one time? All right. Hey, there you go. Please don't tag me in that, though. Blue Lives Matter. So, yeah. You know, Dan Bongino is saying, he's like, you're backstabbing the president. It's like, sir. He's asking a very direct question. But, you know, you love to see.
Starting point is 00:49:41 All these motherfuckers don't have knives in their back from Trump. The second Trump needs someone to fall on. These guys are all going to be fucking dead meat. Trump doesn't have a fancy. He's already said fuck Fox News as many times as he can. But he doesn't mean that. But he doesn't mean that. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:50:00 He's right. Fuck us. Fuck us. We're a bunch of losers. I love Geraldo. He's like, that's not the question we're asking us. We're a bunch of losers. I love Geraldo. He's like, that's not the question we're asking. The question we're asking is riots.
Starting point is 00:50:10 It's like, wait, no. Not a question, Mr. Hannity. And also, I think Geraldo is correctly talking about the same thing, at least. That's your opinion. I love that he's like, that's your opinion, which is the loophole that all those motherfuckers use whenever they get called out on something. If you're using the dude from the Big Lebowski defense to justify your nonsense, you're like, well, that's just like your opinion, man. That's not actual negate. Sure, you may think that you might try to reduce his sort of observation as an opinion. But again, it's a hell of a drug to try and have to, you know, keep yourself in mental pretzels to be able to look at that shit on the TV and then be like, I think it was Antifa.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Okay. Laura Ingraham, sadly, she didn't have as much of a, she just straight up lied. It wasn't as interesting. She was just like, I never said any of that. And you're like, really? Yeah, you did.'re like really yeah you did okay yeah you did laura yeah it's weird it's really weird i mean look at his base level it's really fucking weird how much these motherfuckers cape for trump like just at the base take even take all the politics out of it. Take all the bullshit out of it. Like why? Like you don't even like y'all. You don't even like you. Because at the end of the day, they just like that.
Starting point is 00:51:35 The power that he has, the ability has to get everybody in step, you know, lockstep marching towards fascism and also dominance. step you know lockstep marching towards fascism and also dominance everyone at fox news saw a huge increase in their popularity in like the last four to eight years four to six years whatever you want to call it all based on fucking trump so trump is their money maker and that's i i not to be the anti-capitalist i don't have the t-shirt but the fundamental problem with every boils down to anyone will do anything to squeeze an extra penny out of whatever they're whether it's leaving your employees in a warehouse when the tornado is coming at it your employees pissing in water bottles people dying in sweatshops people fucking like uh i will lie i will do treasonous propaganda for a president that is ruining this country if my ratings go up one notch.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Because if my ratings go up one notch, I will fight tooth and nail to stay in Senate or Congress because my stock portfolio crushes with all my slightly inside information I get. Like, all this shit is all because everyone wants to make a dollar more yeah just know no matter where whatever and i'm including all my employers at the top that person would cut my head off if their stock value went up 0.1 0.01 the head of turner would gladly cut my fucking head off for a centimeter of profits and like piss on you if you're on fire yes exactly and like that's what we all need to understand laura ingram will do anything in her power to not lose her fucking day rate like that's what and that's just upsetting and it is because without money it's very difficult to survive in america as well now when we're talking amounts
Starting point is 00:53:24 of money it's a different story but i get it you need every little bit of dollar you have because everyone knows the next day you can have a medical emergency that isn't free or you can have like uh it's impossible to get a house because everything's expensive like the shit that's fucking with the the little people is also making the big people worse right and then somehow they have the lack of awareness to be like, actually every, you have everything you need actually. So you can,
Starting point is 00:53:50 you can kind of kick, take your foot off the gas of the selling your soul thing. Because 505 million is not that much more than 500 million. At that point. It's not that much more than 400 million. Right. Exactly. To be honest. Think more than $400 million. Right. To be honest.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Exactly. Think about it. $400 million. Every dollar you make over $999 million should just be taken away and given to someone who makes under $50 grand a year. Every single – I think $999 million is plenty of money for any one individual to have like your family is generationally wealthy but every dollar over 999 million should just get sent to somebody else that should be the rule like you can't just sit there with a thousand ribs on your plate if the person next to you has no ribs it's like you're not gonna eat all that why am i but what if i want to taste them john i might i want to taste the kind of barbecue sauce this one has and this one has. I've been collecting these ribs since fucking 78, since before you were born, Junior.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Tell me how to do my ribs. I will have these ribs despite no effort on their part to be a functioning member of Rib Society. They're rotting. They're not even edible, these ribs. If you're waiting that long, maybe someone else can. You can even enjoy them nah they can still they can still put them on their tongue yeah i've seen this seen this whole thing a hundred times i'm not gonna get played but yeah i mean yeah greed's a hell of a drug and so is the ego and yeah what a better place for all of that to intersect than in on capitol hill in washington dc uh because you know
Starting point is 00:55:25 i think colloquially known as hollywood for ugly people yeah even in even on the fucking quote unquote good guy side the people who care about allegedly care about uh their constituents those motherfuckers are all just making money too they're all in it for money i'm so disheartened by everything that's happening in the democrats The right wing is terrifying and the left is disappointing. Yeah. They're like, the Democrats are that person who like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:51 like you're like, bro, I would never call them up if I got in a fight and I need a backup. Yeah. They're like, but no, but look, yo,
Starting point is 00:55:57 they were doing pushups and shit. You saw that video. They were like doing like MMA shit. I'm like, I've seen them in a fight. They ran, they run every time they talk a lot MMA shit, I'm like, I've seen them in a fight. They ran. They run every time. They talk a lot of shit, but they run every fucking
Starting point is 00:56:08 time. And I don't have time for this shit because if shit's going down, I need somebody who's going to go back to back like Batman and Robin. Back to back like Trebek and Say Jack, baby. Back to back like Jordan and Pippin. No, that don't work. There it is. Gotta get a little Chicago
Starting point is 00:56:23 flavor in there. These days, you know, Scotty's a little... Scotty ain't going back to back with Jordan no more now. No, no. Rare's up for him. All right, let's take a break and we'll come back and we'll talk about Copaganda. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 00:56:48 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling, firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these
Starting point is 00:57:31 types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition.
Starting point is 00:58:01 It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes
Starting point is 00:58:29 in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits.
Starting point is 00:58:57 I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When the civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:59:37 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron
Starting point is 01:00:20 and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And I just want to, you know, talk about,
Starting point is 01:00:51 since we're in the holiday season, it's good to take note of all the ways that the police try and, you know, seed their positive stories through the media and maybe get a little bit of that year-end goodwill. But specifically, there's just this one, it's like the most hack bit that police officers and police departments do at the end of the year which is pretending to arrest the fucking grinch you've seen images like this fucking everywhere there's always like there was a this like image recently like from this week coming from New Jersey about how they had to, hey, they had to arrest the Grinch because he was, quote, disturbing the peace.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Oh, great. Or in Texas, they seized a Grinch during a tree lighting ceremony because, I don't know, he had different colored skin. I can't imagine. Unfortunately, the LAPD shot the Grinch in the back when he was walking away. Oh, no. With his hands up. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:48 And then threw up gang signs over his dead body. And then Pittsburgh, they also did a thing that they said there's a warrant out for the Grinch after he didn't appear for a sentencing date. And also, also, just because I know that was spelled a little heavy, let me dial it back. Kids, they also alerted the kids. Hey, kids, if you see the fucking Grinch, you know what? And he offers them candy. Quote, take the candy and teach him a lesson. I'm sorry, what?
Starting point is 01:02:19 The police are saying take candy from a fucking creepy stranger as a weight i don't look i don't know what the i don't know what the point of that uh tip was but they still said hey take the candy and turn them in that's how you want to do it i don't know how many kids y'all know like you know we're all around the same age yeah so we actually grew up with the grinch like you know we watched the grinch cartoon and then when we were teenagers or young adults, the movie came out and shit like that. I don't know how many kids y'all know now.
Starting point is 01:02:52 These motherfuckers don't care about the Grinch. They don't like the movie is long gone. The cartoon, they don't watch. The cartoon ain't coming on for a Christmas special every year anymore. Like, it's so outdated. The cartoon ain't coming on for a Christmas special every year anymore. It's so outdated.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I know the reason cops are doing it because they want to position themselves as the good guys. And we protect you. And we protect the Christmas spirit. And we'll protect you until we kill you. I get what they're doing. All they got to do is fucking hand out gifts to underprivileged kids. Just do what the fucking fire department does. Do toys for tots. We don't need a fucking dumb
Starting point is 01:03:29 little show of like the military flyovers. In honor of vets, we have 11 jets burning millions of dollars worth of fuel. It's like take that money and give it to homeless vets, you fucks. It's like the fire department is helping parents put their car seats in their cars.
Starting point is 01:03:50 The police, they're beating the Grinch in the streets to help kids feel Christmas spirit. Hey, beat up that green skin. We got a green skin. God knows what kind of slurs they have for fucking the Verde. You know, what's actually funny is they actually use the word grinch like in police talk too oh again this whole thing is like it's not just these it's every like i'm just there's not a single local department who doesn't have some kind of fucking grinch fucking thing going on and you know this this whole, I think, pattern of trying to make cop work look really cool and fun and like adorable even is just like super insidious, especially because it's directed at kids. And then you have the talk of a fucking cop who's got two domestic violence things on his record, dribbling a basketball.
Starting point is 01:04:40 But they can do the Omarion challenge. Exactly. Exactly. Oh, he's planking. Yeah. Well, he fucking hit Omarion challenge. Exactly, exactly. Oh, he's planking. Yeah, well, he fucking hit a woman at home the other day. Yeah, but that's in his personal life.
Starting point is 01:04:51 As a cop, he did this. This TikTok's gonna make kids wanna be cops. Did you see how sturdy he was getting to that Pop Smoke remix? Yeah. I think he knows a thing or two. Also, like, the funny thing about this, too, is eventually the grinch becomes the hero too like the nigga like he yeah he he did good at the end he returned all the
Starting point is 01:05:13 presents without the cops so y'all arresting the hero man y'all arresting my my homie the grinch it feels it feels like correct for the police to be like what he stole and it's like well then he also ah no more information he's green and he stole open fire you stole and it's like well then he also ah no more information he's green and he stole open fire you know yeah it's like wait no no he's turned the corner you know rehab the major part of our quote-unquote prison system exactly his heart grew three sizes now we're gonna beat that shit back down to one because is it like to that point it's like it started off being like look at this child who's different than everybody in town fucking scare him off to the edge of town so he never comes back it's like
Starting point is 01:05:50 uh i believe it started off with y'all being very uh not understanding of the grinch when it was a baby but hey look that's a whole other that's a whole other narrative like to go along with this like with kids right they they get these kids also in on like all this dumb stuff like being like hey you know you can you can participate in you know taking the grinch down they were even having like kids tackle the grinch and pin him so the cops could fucking handcuff him one kid said i thought it was cool because i got to tackle a grinch this was like a kid who participated with his local police department. The cops were saying, the kiddos caught him and held him until we were able to get him in handcuffs today.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Oh, wow. The kiddos got him. So, you know, this is basically like I was saying, like you said, the term Grinch, they actually use it. They have things like they'll set up things like a Grinch patrol in like It's like this quote, these folks, a lot of them are drug addicts or have addictions, but they're still going to try and find a way to provide for their children. Oh my God. That's part of your description of the Grinch patrol is someone that's
Starting point is 01:07:17 destitute and their only financial recourse is possibly like theft. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And the answer is not give that person something yeah arrest that but like it it's fucking it's fuck it's so it's so upsetting that the cop narrative is combative against it's always like we have to stop crime not prevent crime we have to come arrest someone after a crime.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And it's like, well, yeah, it's not that this person can't afford to give things to their children or provide for their children. So let's give some stuff to their children so they don't have to steal. Is that now we're going to stop this motherfucker from trying to provide for their children no matter what. And let that child just go without. What about that child? What if the child? I don't know it's not my problem their parent was a grinch okay yeah and that's the same thing you see even reporting
Starting point is 01:08:10 too like the media will even describe people as fucking grinch you see quote this is like just random headlines you see with grinch deputies arrest grinch who stole a vehicle in highlands ranch uh there's some police real life grinch goes on car wrecking spree in Cambridge. They just, this is just like their way to dehumanize just people in general. Now I get if people are fucking up people's shit or whatever, and they're committing crimes, that's one thing, but like the Grinch nomenclature vernacular shit to be like,
Starting point is 01:08:39 Hey, a couple of Grinches just surviving, but only in this month where they'll be rich. Any other time? A Grinch, uh, who is, uh, had a bad drug, uh, just surviving but only in this month where they'll be rich any other time a grinch uh who is uh had a bad drug uh attack because their life seems like it's a dead end because of every system has failed them stole a car and the police were able to stop the grinch it's like tell give us the whole fucking story of the grinch right the grinch turned the grinch because we kicked him out
Starting point is 01:09:03 of they because they kicked him out of fucking Whoville or whatever. Now, if we kick people out of society by making them live on the streets, we're making... I want to stop saying Grinch because the cops like it so much, but that's the origin story. That's how people end up with
Starting point is 01:09:20 no other direction to go. Push them away. Push them away. Push them away. Not help them, not extend a hand. And again, that goes back to the point of the whole, you know, the actual book itself about the Grinch. Like, I don't think most kids would know that there is a redemption arc that doesn't involve police intervention. Like, that is the moral of the story. police intervention like that is the moral of the story the moral of the story isn't the Grinch is this terrible fucking person who wants to steal Christmas the moral of the story is anybody can reform and start to love the things that we all love like that is the moral of the
Starting point is 01:09:59 fucking story also poor actor the poor the actor who has to play the grinch and all these damn shit like my man if somebody my day rate would be three million dollars to do that shit dress up like the grinch so these kids can tackle you and we can arrest you like it's the rookie cop who tried to blow a whistle about the interior gangs and they're like guess what brooke you're you want to be a fucking rat you're the grinch this year it goes traffic calls you yeah the beat walk in the street bike cop and grinch those are the levels of the totem pole at the at the police station and then this time uh we're actually going to be showing uh kids how to use our police batons
Starting point is 01:10:43 so we got a pk 16 inch baton the kids are going to be using on the grinch so yeah suit up man next time keep your mouth shut but yeah so fuck all that fuck the copaganda and uh again maybe try and teach kids uh what the moral of the story is there there is a redemption arc rather than they called the fbi to beat the fuck out of the grinch and chase him out of Whoville. But hey, that's for another time. All right. Well, Gabrus, thanks so much, man, for stopping by.
Starting point is 01:11:12 It's a pleasure and an honor to be able to talk that shit with you. Of course, man. Of course. Thank you so much for having me. This is always a blast coming in here. Where can people find you and follow you, listen to you, support you? I'm at Gabrus on all social media.
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Starting point is 01:11:36 a new thing I've been doing is every Monday night at 8 Pacific, 11 Eastern on the Spotify Greenroom app, which is sort of their live radio app. I host a movie show called The Movie Buff, where I'm talking about that previous weekend's releases.
Starting point is 01:11:50 It's sort of a new format, but I talk to you, the audience. You come up on the quote-unquote stage, and we chat, and that's every Monday night live. So if that's in your wheelhouse at all, check that out. That's something new that I'm doing, and I'm really enjoying myself over there. I to i have to tell my wife i have to see spider-man on saturday
Starting point is 01:12:09 for work like that's the shit that's the kind of conversations i get to have hey why not i'm 40 years old it's like i gotta eat this edible and see spider-man because it's my job now she's like wait you just had it was like yeah but it was only 20 milligrams i need like 40 for the work melt me no no way home is what i'm gonna be fucking feeling after this episode no ride home because i can't fucking drive i'm so fucked up and then is there like a tweet or a piece of social media that you like been liking you want to shout out uh well i don't know if this fits in that that category but i gotta shout out a Twitch collective called Racer Trash. They like do re-edits of movies that are sort of like vaporwave. They're named Racer Trash because the first thing they did was Speed Racer.
Starting point is 01:12:55 And they're a collective of editors and producers that each take a chunk of the movie and tweak it in a certain way with a sort of lean towards towards synth and those colors and shit and i think they do a fucking amazing job and miles continuing with our the things we have in common we both enjoy a tree lighting ceremony uh every once in a while and this is a wonderful pairing spark up and watch the next time racer trash is going is streaming on twitch it's such it's such a wild ride like they did twin peaks fucking uh they racer racerized uh twin peaks they've done uh i've seen a ton of movies that they've done and it's always a fucking blast highly recommend it okay yeah i'm looking at all the people that follow racer trash and it's like yep these are all people with taste yeah okay they're truly rad it's and it's and it feels like sort of uniquely modern in a way where
Starting point is 01:13:47 it's like it's like remix a movie something that like only a group of talented people could do and it right really is a it's a vibe and it's really fun and it's funny like a lot of the people are funny and do funny things with scenes that aren't necessarily funny in other movies the crouching tiger hidden dragon one was also awesome. Oh, wait, remix of Crouching Tiger? Okay, yeah, say less. I'm there. Yeah, check it out. Okay, cool. Jaquese, man, thank you so much for helping me host today. It's always
Starting point is 01:14:14 a pleasure and an honor. Always. I know where they can find you, but where can they find you, Jaquese? Well, in case you don't know, you can find me in these streets, baby! And you can find me in these streets baby and you can find me online at jockeysneal on everything i got three things i want to say real quick first of all today is thursday december 16th yes uh enjoy spider-man no way home everybody
Starting point is 01:14:42 but give it a weekend before you spoil it. You know, give it, give it like three days. Give it three days. Tickets were hard to get. Some people tried to get tickets to the earlier shows and just couldn't get them. So they got to go see them on Friday or Saturday. Give it a week or say, hey, spoilers ahead. There's no need to be an asshole.
Starting point is 01:15:02 I know if you don't want things spoiled, stay off of social media. I get that. But also, we can give it 40 hours before we just willingly tell everybody, yeah, man, Spider-Man died. We can give it 48 fucking hours. And that's not a spoiler.
Starting point is 01:15:19 I don't know if that's what happens. If anybody's upset with me. Or that to happen in the way home. Yes that to happen yes yes yes yes so let me just say that and also just enjoy it I think it's going to be a fun time shout out to Steph Curry for breaking that three point record the GOAT created a shooter and live I got a tweet for you
Starting point is 01:15:35 it's just funny I thought it was funny it made me laugh from IHYJUJU is the handle and it's just like in quotations, you reply fast. And then after that, it was like, because I'm in love with you. And that's it. I relate to that.
Starting point is 01:16:01 I get that big time. I get that 100% big time. I fucking love that. Last thing. I thought this big time. I get that 100% big time. I fucking love that. Last thing. I thought this was funny. Super producer. I'm a host. And he also knows what I'm talking about.
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Starting point is 01:16:59 Damn, you've been at AMC way too much. You're just now the Nicole Kidman promo video seeped into your brain. Every time I go to an AMC now, I always You're just now the Nicole Kidman promo video seeped into your brain. Every time I go to an AMC now, I always make a story of that Nicole Kidman promo. Enjoy the fact that her reaction to a scene in Creed II, she's like... It's really funny that she's watching that movie.
Starting point is 01:17:19 They should change that. Cinema. Love it. Cinema. AMC theaters. Theaters. Yeah. All right, go and get a dog up yeah uh all right well you can find me at miles of gray on twitter and instagram also the other show for 20 day fiance with sophie alexandra where we talk about 90 day fiance off that loud pack i wish you're sponsored by loud pack but anyway hit us up and some tweets like. First one is from at Christopher Thomas tweeted,
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