The Daily Zeitgeist - Ghosts = Plumbing? President Fake Lawyer Esq. 04.30.26

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

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Oh my God, we need to hang out. This is the best. Totally. Do you guys want to just stop down and go record together? Yeah. Hold on. Jack, we'll be right back. We actually have a separate project. We've launched. It's called Friendship. Friendship IRL, like not on Zoom. Oh, man. I'm so glad that I could make this happen for you guys. This is the best. I'm so excited. Thank you. Blake told me that Miles is going to be back, but fuck that shit.

neighbors. Yeah, really. Miles doesn't need more friends. He has a child. I know, right? That's the only friend I need. Your kids aren't your best friends, though, Jack. They sometimes come for you.

They think I'm cool. No, they do not. Mm-hmm. Like, Dad, he's so skibbitty toilet. We love him. And then they're like, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Whatever that thing is. Yeah.

Yeah, you got it. I'm cool. You know. A lot of people call it, just do six, seven for short. But you like to call it by its full name, which is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Yeah, that's Jesus. Holy Christ. I would never just say H.

That's true. I'm not a heathen. Is that what the eight? That's not for heathen. I thought it was, I thought it was Jesus F Christ. But. Right. Well, there's that.

But obviously. I'm retired from religion, so what do I know? I thought it was Jesus Harvey Christ. That's Jesus Harvey is creepy. Why did that make me think of TMZ and Harvey Levin immediately? Because that's my one true Lord and Savior. Amen, brother. This is an I-Heart podcast.

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April 30th, 2026th. My name is Jack O'Brien, A.K., coming under your door. They're waiting for you, where beings are small and tiny and weird China magic mushrooms. That one courtesy of Arch Cam Cam, in reference to our big story yesterday about a type of magic mushroom that gives people the very specific hallucination that there are tiny people coming under their doors crawling all over their walls, you know, magic mushrooms. Who would want that? That's like the one thing that is, yeah, people do not seek it out. It is a type of mushroom that is apparently delicious enough that they're like, yes, sometimes it drives you temporarily insane in this very specific way for, it's not just, it's not, but it is both a very unpleasant trip and also,

one that lasts anywhere from three to like seven days. And people, but the mushroom apparently. You think little people are attacking you for days for a fucking week? Yes. You just can't stop seeing them. And it's apparently like a common hallucination for people with brain injuries. And it's very, yeah, they've been documented in history. They're called Lilliputian hallucinations.

From Gulliver's Travels. That's right. You got it. And yeah, they're really, they're really fucked up. But people apparently love these mushrooms so much that they're just like, yeah, you know, if it's worth it. It's worth it. If you get one that's a little bit on the rare side of medium rare, you, I'm going to be seeing tiny people. But it's just so funny to have a hallucination that is like so specific.

It's like, it is like Wonka-esque, where it's just like, yeah. And this one makes you see tiny little people. I wish the mushrooms that you, like, got from dealers were that specific, where they're just like, yeah, this one's going to. You're going to see three redheads, a toilet, and a bag of beans. Everyone does. Everybody sees it. You're going to meet this guy. He's kind of an asshole.

He's going to be totally in your head. But, yeah, he just lives on the mushrooms. Do you think when Jonathan Swift or whoever wrote, that's him, right? Jonathan Swift. Johnny Swift wrote Gulliver's Travels, but do you think maybe the Lilliputian thing was actually because he had seen that type of hallucination because maybe he ate that mushroom

because that mushroom's been around. So what came first, you know? It's been happening. It's a great question. I just wonder. Jonathan Swift is actually the official name of I Show Speed. A lot of people don't know that. It's the full name.

I'm sorry, you're welcome. I'm thrilled to be joined by today's special guest co-host, a very talented writer, stand-up comedian who co-hons the very great 90-day fiancé podcast for 20-day fiancé with some guy named Miles. It's Sophia Alexandra! So happy to be here. Happy to be Miles. It's so wonderful to have you. So wonderful to have you as our Miles today. Miles will be back on Monday, according to schedule.

if everything goes according to schedule. Sophia, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant anti-racism educator, activist, writer, creator of the acclaimed podcast, White Homework, and co-host of Go Home Bible Your Drug. It's Tori Williams Douglas! Hi! I'm so happy to be back. Thanks, guys.

This is amazing. Sophia, it's so nice to meet you. So nice to meet you. I have to have my attorney send a strongly worded letter. letter to Blake Wexler because he told me Miles is going to be here, but actually this is an upgrade. No offense to Miles. I'm sure he's having a lovely time in Japan. Wow.

Wow. So this is something that frequently happens when I'm out, where everyone just immediately starts talking shit. Thank God Jack's out. Jack, stay on your vacation for another week because these co-hosts are killing it. So it is really nice to have it happen to Miles. I mostly just talk about how much I dislike your performance. personality mostly. That's kind of what I do.

Right. Yeah. But it's wonderful to have you guys here and to let you guys meet because you were maybe closer than you thought. You guys aren't far away from each other geographically. Pretty cool. We discovered where we started recording. Coolest neighborhood in Portland. There you go. Hell yeah. Or don't. Or don't. Or don't. Or don't. At least don't do that, yeah.

That's plenty. That's plenty specific. Tori, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better. In a moment, first we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things that we're talking about today. We got a couple of legal actions by the DOJ that are very funny and kind of embarrassingly written in a way that makes it clear that they were written by the president. So we're going to talk about those. We're going to do just little readings from those two actions. One going after James Comey. the other is trying to get that damn ballroom.

He's so horny for this ballroom. I am starting to believe the conspiracy theories. First, I was like, he didn't stage a false flag attack to get the ballroom. And now I'm like, wait a second. It's got really fucking ones that ballroom. That's crazy that this is what he's using the gear, like risking it all to do.

I still don't believe it was a false flag. What do you need a ballroom for? This is ridiculous. He's a developer, first and foremost. And then we're going to talk about ghosts. We're going to check them with you guys, see how you feel about ghosts. I ain't afraid of them. I'm going to tell you that right now.

You're afraid of no ghosts. Is that what you're saying? That is. All of that, plenty more. But first, Tori, we do like to ask our guest. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? So I've spent the last week-ish, unfortunately, Googling Trump's neck waddle. Mm-hmm.

Because he's got this little piece of skin, like, on his neck as, you know, it's slowly coming down closer to the ground as, you know, chins and necks are want to do as an age. It happens. Hey, brother, it happens to the best of us, Mr. Trump. Truly. I think he starts the day with it tucked into his shirt that's buttoned up all the way to his throat, right? And then over time, as he's moving his head around, it kind of starts to, like, creep out and, like, fall forward. I wonder if, yeah, that's a really good point. It does seem to be tucked.

And I do wonder what that process looks like. Is he tucking it from the top? Is he, like, stuffing it down in there? Or does he, like, button the top button first and then pull it down under? You know what I mean? Oh, I more thought he just kind of put it into more into his neck. Oh, okay. So he buttons the top button with his neck down and then comes with it out.

Interesting. Just like very slowly lift your head. Yes. But he moves around too much. Anyway, I've noticed that it looks, it ends up looking a lot like genitalia, depending on what angle photographers are you currently using. And it can go either way. It can, it can look like a nut sack or it can look like a labia. You never know what you're going to get. And so I've just been like so, I love gross things. And so I've been so intrigued by this. So amazing. It's like body horror. You're like, it's the substance part two. And I'm just like, what? Okay. Okay.

Like, this is, this is a look. It's so interesting. I'm just intrigued by how he likes to present himself as a human being in the world. On purpose. On purpose. Time put him on the, and this is something that he's very aware of him, very sensitive about. Time put him on the cover of their little magazine. I don't know if you've heard of it.

Ever heard of it? Time magazine. Garbage publication, in my opinion. They put him on the cover, and he was not pleased with how. Because it was very waddle first. Oh, I got to see that. I just put it in the, I just put it in the chat with an article. Oh, man, because they shot him from below.

That's the one. It's the labia. It's the most labial of neck waddles. That's how you know someone hates you when they're just deliberately shooting you from below. The headline is his triumph. And then they call him the leader Israel needed. How Gaza heals. This is after the ceasefire that we all know went so well for Gaza.

Beautifully. They've had so much time to heal. I think it's going great. Yes. But it is they did they did kind of do him dirty in this picture, I will say. It makes me think of every fucking time that someone's taken a photo of me doing stand-up that I did not authorize them to do. and then they posted their great show last night,

and it's just from below, and I'm like, yeah. Yeah, just head pushed in, neck, like, kind of, yeah, the worst thing that anyone can possibly do. His main argument beyond the labial nature of his neck, and it couldn't be more labial or tucked. It's both. It's both. It is B-O-L-T-H-B-O-T-H both.

and he like so which is great because he also didn't like that the sun is behind his head and you can like see clear through like the the little whisper hair the little illusion of his hair is not working like it's been it's like oh he's basically a bald guy with like a little frisson of hair up top you know what i find interesting is that like if you don't look as a word no no i think that's commendable. Okay. But the fact that it's such a little tiny, like, wisp of hair, you can just see his bald head.

You can think about what he would have been like if he had run as a bald man. And I think I don't know if he would have won because the people that voted for him are weird and, like, into this weird hyper-masculent thing he's into, you know, where, like, you have to have a lot of hair and just be like a big, strong, whatever. But I think if he was bald, he'd look either way mean or. or way kinder, and I don't think that's good. No, I think he would look worse. I do think he would look like,

I've seen, people have obviously photoshopped him. By the way, Frisson is not what I thought it was. It is a transient physical sensation, often described as shivers, goosebumps, or tingling of the skin. Do you mean Frise? Yeah, probably. Who knows?

Who knows what I thought? I use words impressionistically. Liberally. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I think enough people have photoshopped him bald that we kind of know what it looks like. And he looks like shit. He looks like like worse Lex Luther. So he looks meaner.

Yeah, yeah. Interesting. I didn't know which way it would go. He's got like bulldog energy without hair to like counterbalance. Yeah, he just looks, he looks bad. And also he, so much like his makeup budget would have to like triple because he'd be. So much foundation. Yeah, there's that picture of him

like where he's, his face is like orange, but then you see that every other part of him is like bright white. It looks like E.T. When he's dead, you know? It's just like, oh, no. This is a dead person with a face painted on it. So, yeah, I think if he was bald, like he would need to be hitting the tanning salam.

Hmm. He could try microneedling. I don't know if that works when you're like 8,000 years old, but you could try it and see maybe help with the hair situation. Who knows? Microneedling. I love that you're so positive, Tori. You're like, I can help.

I think he needs you in his life. There's so many things that he could do to improve his appearance. Why I'm giving him like helpful tips on how to look more attractive to, I guess, straight men. Right. I'm not sure, but, you know, do not work for free right now, Tori. I think he should go, like, speaking of needles, I think, go Hellraiser. Go full Hellraiser, lean into, like, you know, bald but with needles coming out, pins coming out of his head. Go full on evil, man, just like.

That's like what his spirit looks like, yeah. Yeah. He probably doesn't realize it, but, like, at some level, he probably should just do that. His vision's got to be shit. too, like to leave the house every day looking like, there's no way he can see what he looks like in a mirror. Yeah, like somebody with bad vision. Yes.

And also nobody around him who will tell him the truth. And so he has, he has the illusion that, because he sees lots of people. So he's like, well, of course, they would tell me if I looked like total shit and had a weird rash coming, like coming out of the neck of my shirt that looked like it was attacking me.

And yeah. But you can, he needs glasses, but he just, just like, I think they're gay. You know? Yeah. Like, I don't think he would ever correct his vision. Yeah. He's like, oh, homosexual. I don't think so.

You think small shoes, even if you have small feet, small shoes are gay and glasses are definitely gay. Super. Tori, what is something you think is underrated? Well, I have to be honest. I didn't since, uh, I'm just going to, I'm just going to, this is, might seem like pandering seeing a Sophia's here, but I feel like Oregon is underrated. Yeah.

Do other people, I don't know if people agree with this. Maybe it's not. Maybe this is just my perception, like, living here, but I feel like Oregon is underrated. We have a lot of cool shit that, like, nobody knows about. And I'm not saying, like, move here, unless you have a lot of taxes, you know, if you've got tax money to, like, give to the state, then please do consider moving here. But I, I, there's no sales tax, can I say, though? There's no sales tax here. So you've got to like buy a house or just I don't know. You know.

Yeah, I'll consider it. Yeah. Buy some property up here. Yeah, we're looking for a place to get some property. Second home. Do. So give us some examples. I love going to the property store.

Never come back without a property or two. I'm my real estate person. I can't speak to this, but I do want the Californians and like Seattleites who are slightly priced out to come here and use all of that equity they have to, like, help fund our schools. I'm just extremely here for this. That sounds awesome. Origan has, like, so many secret gems. Give me, give me a secret gem because I do, you do here. My only form of media that I watch is Fox News. And they're telling me that Portland's main, main export and, like, the number one thing that you can go get is Antifa.

and the homeless. And that's about it. People nodding off, falling out with needles in their arms. Is that mainly what you're talking about? I haven't seen that happen yet. I'm still waiting for like the Fox News, like prescience to whatever that they know that I don't know.

It's mostly fentanyl and you do see that, but it's not as. So we, okay, so we basically have like universal health care here. Nobody fucking knows this. It's incredible. Like it's slightly, it's like slightly means tested, but like the Oregon Health, like OHP, the Oregon Health Plan. It's like if you need health insurance, you just tell them that you need it.

And they're like, sweet, here you go. What? Yeah, you don't have to be employed. You don't have to be a citizen of the United States. Like, you don't have to be looking for work. They're just, they're very generous. I feel like this is a good thing. Like people don't talk about like.

No, that makes me angry, actually. That makes me as angry as someone breaking the window of a bank. As a woman wearing pants. Fucking furious over here. I don't know about you, Sophia, but I'm mad. I don't want my tax dollars going to people being healthy. What the fuck? Tori, I'm supposed to die.

Go. Yes. I'm going to add on to what you said because it's also really great if you have chronic illnesses. Yes. Which a bunch of my friends who have moved here, one of the reasons they done it is because they could actually afford to take care of their chronic illnesses. Yeah. My friend takes an $11,000, I think she said it was $11,000 medication that with her health

plan, she can actually afford. And that is what that medication should cost. Obviously. I think we all can agree. She's just taking care of the nanny state, taking advantage of the nanny state. Okay. Yeah. That's amazing.

I did not know that. No, it's really cool. Like, nobody knows it. I was shocked. to find out that like states like Georgia don't have health insurance for people. Like if you're not insured, you just can't get it. Damn, shots fired at Georgia. Like, what is happening?

Isn't that true of all states? But like, states like, I don't know. Georgia doesn't happen. I was like, I was trying to help my friend in Georgia. I was like, oh, yeah, you just go and sign up for health insurance with the state. And they're like, no, fuck you. We don't have that. Yeah.

They're like, what state? Yeah, yeah. But also we have like the largest living organism on the planet in Oregon. I love this for me personally. What? Is it is it the fungi? Yeah. Yeah.

I love mushrooms. I've gotten into it. I've got books. I'm very bad at telling them apart or finding them. So I'm not eating them. Well, you don't want the little men running into your home under your door. Not while I have diarrhea.

I feel like that's what would happen first. That's a bad comma. The diarrhea is part of it. Okay. Yeah, you shit yourself for three to seven days. Why little men are trying to get under your door? Which is the hallucinogen, which is the hallucinogen gem where people are like, the diarrhea is part of it.

I think it is ayahuasca. Ayahuasca. So they give it to you. They put you out in nature. You're like, okay, sounds good so far. You immediately begin violently shitting yourself. Let's go back a couple steps there. That sounds bad.

Sounds bad to me. Mm-hmm. Both ends. When I'm about to, like, trip, I don't want anyone to be like, here's the bucket you will be using. Right. Here's the bucket. No. You get one bucket for both ends.

Literally, though, some people couldn't make it to the bathroom. Right. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. They did use it for both ends. Yeah, yeah. Have you ever seen the film Old Joy? Nope.

No. Old Joy? That sounds like you made that up, honestly. It does. I did. I just. throwing it out there in case it is a movie. I saw it actually in theaters.

You're like I'm actually one of the producers, so this is really killing me. He got in 19662. There's a filmmaker named Kelly Reichardt who has made. Dropping a hard R over there? What's happening, Jack? I know. Rikert, I don't know.

R-E-I-C-H-A-R-T. She just made the film The Mastermind this year That got a little bit of attention with the Mousy guy from the Challengers The Dark-Carrie. I don't know who's in Challenger's. I don't know. She's Call-May, you watch your mouth.

Oh, no. Is it the one with the slightly big ears on the dark hair or the red-haired one? Yeah, that one, the first one. I like the first one. I mean, I like both of them. I like him a lot. I don't know who that is. The Challenges really is kind of fun.

Challenges? to be way more Zendaya oriented, but it's pretty fun. Yeah. They're like, well, she's too much, too awesome in this. We're going to have to make it about the guys. Let's break her leg. Yeah, I mean, that's the part I hate, but the part I like is when she makes both of them go down on her.

And I like that. That is fun. She made a movie called First Cal that got a lot of attention. She's a good filmmaker. She makes things at a very, at a very, like, slow, interesting pace. one of her first movies, if not her first feature length film, is called Old Joy. And it's just like a, her movies don't have a lot of conflict or they have some conflict, but it's mainly just like a vibe. Is it character driven or like mood driven?

Mood driven. And it's, the movie is about people from Portland who just like go into the woods around Oregon and like go to a hot spring, I think. And it's just really nice. Yeah, it does. It is like a great advertisement for Oregon. Okay. I would recommend it for people who aren't convinced, although I think everybody's going to be convinced. It's also the Will Oldham, Bonnie Prince Billy, that musician, Fennie, very old indie rock fans are listening.

That's the star of Old Joy, or one of the stars. I don't think he's been in any other movies. Wow. Okay. I was also born in Eugene, Oregon. So I'm on board for all of that. That's so cool, Jack. Look at that.

Theologian by birth. I didn't know you were you genian. That's awesome. I moved when I was one, but it technically. Don't really remember it. Yeah. Don't really remember it. Went back and was so mad about all the hippies when I went back.

You know? I know. They're taking advantage of the system. This can't be where I'm from. Just running around going, free loader. It's just a college town. Like, well, college-class track and field town. Just spinning on the voodoo donuts that you encounter.

That's right. Mad as hell. Why is this in shape of a blunt? What is, Tori, something you think is overrated? I think that, given the Christian nationalist vibes we're getting as a country, I think that using apocalyptic language is kind of overrated. I think that we're like giving them what they want when we're like, oh, the world is ending and whatever.

because they're like, yeah, that's what we want. We want to, like, trigger the rapture and Jesus comes back, and God does this big old genocide and, like, gives us the earth. And I'm like, I don't actually think we should be entertaining this logic at all. I think it's probably not good for your mental health, one. But also it's like, let's imagine a future without these people being in charge instead of just being like, oh, well, this is the end. They got it.

They're taking us out. Impossible. They will always be in charge. Oh, wait. Very recently were viewed as just wackos, who, shouldn't be in charge of anything? I think, yeah. So in the book, The Ministry for the Future,

I probably have referenced this line on here before, but, and to be fair to the author, he's kind of disavowed this a little bit, but one of the lines in the book is people have an easier time imagining the end of the world than the end of capitalism, which I personally took as a challenge, and I was like, hey, let's do this differently.

And so I think that, like, when I just don't want to be using framing, even if I'm kidding, around. I don't want to be using framing that like Mike Huckabee and Pete Hegseth like sincerely believe. I don't want to give them that win. I don't want to be carrying water for their ideas. So I'm like trying to encourage all of my friends to like let's imagine something different and new that like doesn't. What if we did fix some of this shit? I feel not called out but called in and I like that. I mean, I was raised like Christian nationalist like borderline culty. So I definitely was. You know, this is what I was taught as like a little kid. It's like, we need to get Iran to attack or get Iran to attack Israel so that Jesus will come back. And then like, they'll do all this fighting and God will kill everybody. And then it'll be a grand old time. And, you know, once you realize this, like, oh, this is a death cult, you're like, hey, maybe, maybe not like giving them what they want.

And, like, imagining an incredible future for humanity that doesn't include billioners or trillionaires or death cults. I'm Jewish, so I didn't grow up around any of that. like the end of the world type language or revelations. Like that's just not a thing to me. But I do say like every time I talk about, you know, when we're like, oh my God, this is happening right now, I'll go, I'll go like, oh, you mean in the year of our Satan 2026? And I'm like, no, I need to take that out of my language because it's the same thing as what you're saying. I'm just cowing to what we're. It is.

I think we're like inadvertently giving into their... I don't know, propaganda about like how the world should be. And it's like, no, the world should be a place where everyone has health care and you can go and visit the biggest living organism on the planet and, you know, or go to a hot spring, go to the deepest lake in the U.S., like, you know, all these beautiful things that you get to do when you're in Oregon. Everyone should be allowed to do those things all the time and have enough to eat and not have to be worried about these people. So I'm like, I've been thinking about the way that most. like my language carries water for fascists and I'm like, I'm not going to do that anymore. I'm just, I'm just going to, it's kind of, maybe it's like a name it and claim it thing or like fake it till you make it. But I'm like, no, actually things are going to get better. And there are good people on this planet who are working to make that happen. And we should be encouraging and supporting those people and like doing what we can to like care for our neighbors and communities.

And not being, not using this language of like, oh, the world's sending. It's over. were cooked. Like, you know, again. It's still going to be happening in 30 years and there will be like a whole new generation who has to deal with this shit. So let's work on it. Let's get started now. Exactly. Don't over. Don't give up. Don't give up. Like they don't have as much power as they think that they do. So like, let's not just preemptively roll over and die for them. Yeah. I'm just going to, what I'm going to do is increase the amount of times that I say when the revolution comes. There you go. You know?

Yeah, I was saying reconstruction. I'm like reconstruction 2.0 when that happens, all these people are going to go to jail, you know, until we have, you know, abolition prison. Yeah, so we have a different system. But I've been in that one for right now. You know, I, yeah, I'm like, Elon Musk can have all of his assets seized and he can work as a Walmart greeter. And I think that would be good for him to just like have a comfortable middle classish life, two-bedroom apartment,

take the bus to work, shake people's hands as they come into Walmart for the rest of his life while everyone else thrives. I think that would be so, so promising for all of us. And, like, so much, like, psychic torture for him that, like, the world would just thrive off of the, I don't know, he'd start, like, decomposing in real time. And the Earth would start healing. Yes, like, all these good things would grow out of his corpse. Like, I'm just trying to be more creative. like, okay, how, what could things look like instead of just being like, oh, yeah, I'm going to give up, you know, the fascist one. So whatever. It's like, no, these people, they don't win. Like, it feels like they're winning for sure, but yeah, I don't have to win. Yeah.

They don't have to. So I do love that quote. And I always say that I think the reason we're, at least part of the reason we're obsessed with post-apocalyptic literature is that it's one of the only places that we can realistically imagine a walkable city, like living in a walkable city. Totally. It's not so dangerous. I, yeah, I truly think that that's actually true. That's people are just like, man, the only way that that could possibly happen is like, everybody else gets wiped out.

It's like, no, you can like go to cities in other countries and like, they're just like aren't cars. They're going to like zip by and fucking kill you. Dude, like, yeah, like downtown Tokyo at night, I'm like, there's, you don't see cars. It's really weird. It's like, it's like London and peripheral where there's just like two cars. I'm like, yeah. It's super strange. So yeah. Paris has cars, but you don't know, no one you know has one because why would you? Everyone takes the fucking metro or whatever. And it's so. They give you, you know, you move there. There's just people waiting on the corners with, I was going to say, a bicycle and a baguette. Yeah. Four or five cigarettes, a bottle of wine. Let's take a quick break.

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So we're going to zoom through some news stories here. But very good. Overrated, underrated. Thank you, Tori. What do we got here? What do we got? We got some Department of Justice bringing some cases that are clearly, they remind me of, especially the second one, reminds me of if you've ever read a paper written by a fifth grader and it's like their first paper and they're like using official sounding language. But like it's just.

And they open with like, this is my essay. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, it feels like Donald Trump doing that, where he opens with, like, you know, this is a beautiful name, but unfortunately, like, it's like the sort of rhetorical flourish that like an idiot would be impressed by. But he is truly hilarious, unfortunately, in some ways. But I want to, let's start with the James Comey one. So the DOJ is indicting James Comey, who Trump has been mad at since he wouldn't. drop the Michael Flynn investigation.

So the Comey, so this one is focused on a photograph of seashells on the beach. Do you guys remember when Comey did this? He posted a picture that said 86, 47 with the caption, Cool Shell Formation on my beach walk. And people were like, you're threatening the president. He's threatening the president. You go. You're under arrest.

And he was like, okay, I'll take it down. No, 86 just means, you know. when you're out of something or something gets struck from the menu. They said, you said struck. You're going to kill the president. But anyways, that is literally their logic. They're being like 86 means to kill. This is a quote from an interview between Representative Mark Alford and CNN's

Breonna Kiler. She said, when you 86 in order, you get rid of the order, right? but you're not actually, but you're not killing the food, right? And Alford says, it's the same principle, Brianna. She says,

there could be room for debate on that. I will say. If we were playing, like, you know, even 2D chess, like just like taking a few laps, uh,

steps ahead, I, I think we play a little jujitsu here. There's, there's a thing in basketball called like, pulling the chair on someone where they're like, leaning really hard against you. Yeah, and you move when they fall in their ass.

And you move and they fall down. I think we let him take Comey, guys. A former FBI director, who's like probably a massive piece of shit. And also this is a really bad joke. So I think they look stupid, like being like, he said, I remember, he said mean thing about me. Like, it just, I don't know. It feels like it takes. I don't give a fuck about what happens to Comey.

I hope that's clear. Yeah. I don't know. You should have written 187. 47. Then that's unambiguous. Right. We know what the fuck you meant.

I love that you have to be a conspiracy theorist for this, though, like to look at that and be like, he's giving us a signal. He's letting us know he's going to kill Trump. It's like, I mean, I don't, he's not that dumb. I don't know, whatever. The guy who just tried to assassinate him does seem to be like a centrist, liberal. So maybe he is taking secret messages from James Comey. Well, since he didn't really try to kill him, I don't really think it's applicable.

He was like, you can't see me, you can't see me, you can't see me as he ran by the Secret Service. Yes. It just feels like a cappella groups talking shit about each other is the level of like James Comey's diss here. A little pitch perfect action. Yeah, yeah. 8647, God is ass. Why would you post that? That feels so childish to me.

It does. It feels so dumb. It brings something that is very serious or dissent into fascism to the level of like just childishness and stupidity. And like I just feel like if you just let him waste a lot of energy on fighting this post, like he looks kind of stupid. But I wish is that there was video of Comey whimsically putting the shells together. and collecting them and putting him in the shape of 86, 47, put that with some like real chill music behind it and just how it would look like he's doing a love letter. You have to love someone to collect a bunch of shells and make them like an art piece, please. You are in love with him. Oh my God.

You're obsessed with me. That should be the logic of the case. Oh, my God. You're like obsessed with him. Why are you so obsessed with me? You're freaking everybody out, dude. Like, I bet you he also made him a little shell necklace, but he was like, no, that's too much. Too much. Too much? Sorry.

The, and then, of course, he's extremely mad that the National Trust for Historic Preservation is holding up his ballroom construction, given that he did not go through any of the proper channels before destroying roughly a third of the White House. So they were created by Congress in 1949, and they work to preserve historic buildings such as the White House around DC. They're not doing a good job preserving it if this is how it goes down. Nope. They're like, we'll see you in court. It's like, okay, but like that doesn't work with this stuff. Right, like the wrecking ball is already here. So like by the time, I don't know.

Jack, we talked about this last week about how the consequences. The legal consequences when we were talking to Michael Foote for all of this stuff comes so much later. Right. That, like, you don't, there's no, what are you trying to do in the meantime? Because this is not somebody that respects or follows any of the traditional laws that we've had in place. So you're just stuck out here hoping that in the future, the justice will work out when the wrecking ball is already wrecking the White House. Yeah. And then they were like, okay, you're not allowed to do that.

is like paused a little bit. This does seem like he's actually trying to be like, okay, fine, I'll do it your way. We'll take it. I'll take you to court. And the motion is just seems to be definitely written by him. The National Trust for Historic Preservation is a beautiful name, but even their name is fake, all caps. Because when they add the words in the United States, the National Trust for Historic Preservation, it makes it sound like a government agency, which it is not. It's just like so clearly in his voice

to have a court motion that in the first line has an all caps fake in it. It is very funny. They were shown detailed plans and specifications of this knitted, unified, and cohesive structure by top officers and leaders in both the military and secret service.

but this did not deter them because they suffer from Trump derangement syndrome commonly referred to as TDS, as noted by Democrat Senator John Federman of Pennsylvania, and are represented by the lawyer of Barack Hussein Obama, Gregory Craig. Just an amazing run-on sentence. Yeah, anytime anybody drops a Barack Hussein, you know, you know that person's character. Yes. But to go, like, this is the part of the really wrong. reminded me of a fifth grader writing a paper to just like use something that is just a thing that

people say online and be like it is commonly referred to as TDS, as noted by, like, he's using the language of like an actual pathology that has been like reported in the Harvard, like the Journal of American Medicine. And but he's, DSM. Yeah, he's like as noted by a Democratic senator, John Federman, DSJF, and the DSJF of Pennsylvania, is just so funny. The lower section of the building does not work without the upper section.

And likewise, the upper section of the building does not work without the lower. It is all one highly integrated unit exclamation point. People use a lot of exclamation points in court motions. I'm sorry, I'm dying at the explanation of the building, just being two parts, upper and lower. and they don't work without each other. I like to say, do you understand you start building at the bottom?

So actually, by definition, the lower part works without the upper part. It's the beginning. I don't understand. Other parts of the motion that lack a bit of professionalism and we're definitely not, we can't tell who they were written by because the language is so dry and professional

and highly-lawed. Congress has never dictated or tampered with the zoning, permitting, or architectural aspects of any project, especially, a project is capitalized for some reason, especially one being given free of charge as a gift to the country, all capitals, but because it is, all caps. Donald J. Trump, a highly successful real estate developer who has abilities that others don't, especially those who assume the office of president, This frivolous and meritless lawsuit was filed. Again, it's called Trump derangement syndrome, all caps. On top of everything else, this project is a gift to our country from President Trump and other donors. It is free of charge to the American taxpayer. Who could ever object to that? Oh, yeah, this is probably written by the best lawyer in America.

There's also random capitalization of country donors, Yes. American taxpayer. Completely arbitrary. So it's not all, yeah, his all capitalizations, he's pretty good at like deploying those when he wants to do something for emphasis. But his capitalization of words,

like where he just does, you know, the first letter capitalized is so bad. It has never, ever made any sense in any of his communications. It's just. No system whatsoever for the use of these. Jazz, baby. It's just whatever strikes them. What is this called?

I feel like there's a name for this because Robert Moses did this all the time where he'd start a project, spend all the money because he wouldn't get approval to do it the way that he wanted. So then he'd go in, he'd spend all the money that was in the budget. And then they'd be like two thirds of the way through a bridge. And you'd be like, well, you can't just leave this here. Come on, man. Like, you got to whatever, I can't remember what it's called,

but that is totally what Trump's doing right here. Right. Yeah, that was Robert. this thing is like break ground. Once you break ground, it's very hard from the stop the project. They can't be like, no, never mind. We're canceling this because you went over your budget. And yeah, I think Trump is very much in that like headspace of, you know, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. And also if I like already break stuff, they can't get it back anyway, right? So if they, if they come for me, I've already hurt them. Anyway, it's just all very, um, it's. that's how he works though

and everyone's known this right it's been a decade at this point guys like can we please get it together like this is what he does and to your earlier point at the beginning of his presidency we're like it's the end of the world it can't get worse than this this is as bad as it can get

well it turns out this is yeah we can't say that out loud anymore I don't think you just get tired of talking about it and then people like stop talking about it and he keeps doing like getting worse and worse keeps going I feel like we just need some emergency stopping mechanisms written into the law for a bunch of different kinds of things. So when people start doing this kind of stuff, they're like forced to either stop or face consequences and, you know, the way that we've structured everything.

It's like a bunch of things are, Trump's proven, a bunch of things are illegal in this country, but there's no mechanism to enforce them. So then it's like, what is the point of the law? And why should anyone, why should anyone respect it? It's all very strange. Yeah, and Jack and I were, we talked about this on the last time I was here too, when it's like exactly the rapist attitude of let's break ground, let's do the thing and that like ask for forgiveness, not for permission. You know, it's the same shit.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow, I take this very seriously, your accusation or not. And the other thing is, I think whoever the next president is, is you going to definitely, like, move into a White House that has a. construction in it. Like, it's going to be sheets hanging out everywhere. He's going to be guy on a ladder, like, for no reason everywhere. Like, I just don't think he's going to finish this up, you know, because I agree with you. That's the Robert Robert Moses' three quarters of a

bridge thing. Like, I don't think he's going to finish this. No. No. Also, like, what are we going to do with all? We talked, I think it was on yesterday's trending about how he's, like, putting his face on, like, people's passports and, like, on the passes for, like, on the passes for the national parks. It's like that's, we're going to have to like take all this shit down. Like it's so, so annoying. Like, we're going to have to do something else. I think we should build a monument that's like in the same way that there are like national

monuments to horrible things that have happened in the history of the world we should do, turn whatever the ballroom that area was going to be into like a monument to the low point. of American democracy. I think we gather all the things that he put his face on. And like, you know, we do like a public art piece that can just be there where it's like they're burned, you know? Yeah. And then we're like, this is to remember forever what we have done. It would be very labial.

Which is what the Germans did about the Holocaust with all of their monuments. They were like, we got to remember this. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I do, yeah, a giant Trump head that's like. crazy. Like the neck is like almost like

like ugh. Damn. Like children are sitting in the shade of the jowls, you know? Like when they show it on the news, they have to like blur it a little bit, you know? I wanted it to be like his face and you like walk into his mouth, you know, and there's a bunch of like fun house mirrors and I don't

like this shit. Yeah. You're like, it's me. Damn. That's the power of those fun house mirrors. You're like, I did this. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. 2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available.

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I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we picket here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of a lot. crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.

So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcast. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man.

A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target.

He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And it's being widely reported for some reason that a new stuff has explained the real reason why some houses appear to be haunted

and the reason doesn't involve like souls with unfinished business. Or Christmas Eve warnings wandering around. I know. That was what we were all hoping it was. It's like we've discovered the cause of ghosts.

What's it a little adorable boy? They're never adorable though. Casper? I guess Casper was kind of cute. Casper's pretty cute. And he was like kind of hot. I know. I wanted him to stay a ghost forever.

I don't remember that. There's a... That is weird for me to say as a 45-year-old. I will put that out there. We've spoken to multiple people on this show who have said that Casper, when he appeared as a human, was like a foundational part of their, like, sexual development. It was like they were like, he was really hot. I forget the actor's name.

I mean, they were 12 when it came out, and like the Casper was 12, the character, the actor playing Casper. No, when the ghost came on, I was like, that's my man. That's my dude right there. That's what I need. A little cartoon, round body. I was like, ooh. Yes. Anyways.

Oh, bald guy. Thank you. I love this. Devin Sawa. Oh, yeah. Devin Sawa. Yeah, he's a cool guy. Thank you. Catherine just saved me. She said that's true.

Okay. So it's not just me, a 45-year-old man saying, and young Casper was hot. Am I right? No. Everyone's saying it. Everyone's saying it. Many are saying. So there's a new study that's taking, all the Casper truthers out there, it's taking them on. It's conducted by researchers.

at Canada's Macuan University, and they were looking into the effects of something called infrasound. Are you guys aware of what infrasound is? No. It's a frequency that's too low for humans to actually hear, but you can sense it.

Weird. Okay. I love this. It's like very low. Like tangling or like what do you mean? No, it's like a vibe. It manifests as like a feeling of dread. Yeah. That's so fucked. up.

Like your nervous system like responds to nothing. It's like, ooh, I don't like this at all. Yeah. Oh, that's so interesting. That's fucked up. I need to do, can I, do they make, do they make these, do they make these as machines? I want to like start playing this outside certain people's homes for no reason. So they have used it in film to make a scene like very upsetting.

There's a movie called Irreversible by Casper Noah, Noah, Gaspar Noe, who, I think he made the, what did he make? This is so interesting. I think he made Into the Void, or, you know, that movie that's all first person and weird. Anyways, and there is also rumors that, like, horror movies like paranormal activity and the Conjuring 2 hid infrasound on their soundtracks to, like, kind of cause dread in people. So this new study involved having 36 volunteers described their moods while listening to various musical styles that sometimes included infrasetting. and they also gave saliva samples to measure cortisol levels, which provided empirical evidence that they were more stressed when exposed to infrasound.

They also, I think, have run previous studies where they, like, played infrasound in certain, while people were going through haunted houses, and, like, when they played it, like, those people got the fuck out there as fast as they possibly could. but some theories as to like why this why this sound that we can't hear has negative effects on humans is that it's like evolutionary because natural sources of infrasound include volcanic eruptions, landslides, avalanches, intense storms, or stampeding animals.

Damn. Have you had that? Like I was actually walking with my parents this past weekend And there was just, we never, like, figured out what it was. But I did, like, there's just this low, like, rumble that was, like, coming over the horizon that we were like, that's going to be an earthquake. We're all, we're all dead. Like, you could, like, kind of feel it. So, I don't know.

Is this ringing any bells for you guys? Wild, wild. I mean, it makes total sense. I mean, this makes total sense to me, just, like, logically. And I can definitely see how biologically or evolutionarily that this would be like a protective mechanism that like your body could still sense these things and like have your brain react in like a fight or flight way, even though you can't consciously hear the noise, especially given the circumstances that very dramatic and like life or death circumstances that you've described where they naturally, where they occur in nature. I like, yeah, I kind of wonder if, like, tsunamis maybe do that too. Like, just really big events where there are like the noises at so many frequencies that it's like above and below, which you can actually hear with your ears.

I was also thinking about, like, maybe there's things that have that embedded that we don't know about yet. Like, I don't know. You know, sometimes, like, I don't know, babies crying, right? Like, that is ultra upsetting to people to hear because, like, we're wired for that to be upsetting. Right. So I wonder if like there's any kind of stuff that is involved with something where like, is there a particular singer that somehow does that with their voice. And that's why you're always so fucked up when you're listening to the song. You know? I'm just curious. That part in eyes wide shut where it's like. Oh, yeah. That was that was kind of, that was weird. Did you do? Yeah. Yeah. Dietrich. Yeah, Dietrich. Yeah, Ditchard could could be doing it. They do say that actually some work. church organs have it. And so, like, they're creating this sort of

terror. Liminal, like, mystical experience. You know what? To manipulate people. It's kind of genius. But anyways, as it relates to haunted houses, this is actually something, by the way, that we wrote about Beckett Cracked in 2010.

Because, like, there was a guy in the 80s, a British engineer named Vic Tandy, who, as he was working, in a medical device factory, he began noticing odd shapes at the corners of his vision and his coworkers had alleged that the building itself was haunted

and he was like, what the fuck's going on? And so he started, like, testing it and found that there was infrasound. Like, there were, there was equipment in the factory that was making infrasound. And they're saying that this also

could suggest that when there's a haunted house, it's probably, and they've actually, like, found that, that you go to a haunted house, and it's the result of, like, aging pipes and, like, ventilation systems that produce this very low-frequency vibration. I don't think it's, like, all haunted,

not all haunted houses, is what I'm here to say. Hashtag. Hashtag, not all haunted houses. That's super interesting, though, too. I don't, okay, I don't remember the name of the person that you just said who was like working in this factory. Vic Tandy. But if I recall correctly, like those sound waves were like pressing against his iris in

this certain way where he sat at his desk, which made like his peripheral vision. Vibrating his eyeballs. Whoa. Yeah. Wild because if you think about that, there's like you can't hear anything and your vision is getting weird depending on what direction you're sitting and like where the waves are coming from like that would trip someone the fuck out obviously it's like that original gaslight movie that yeah it's basically that except it's real or nature's gaslighting me that hates you

it's just nature and you're like in some ways in some ways it is uh especially when it's used in a movie by some male director who's like i'm gonna make you feel very bad right now uh they they think that it's also the thing that causes animals, like when there is a tsunami or an earthquake coming. It's the thing that, like, they can sense before us because it's just, like, at a different frequency that we're not able to.

But we are able to pick it up enough to, like, have a panic attack. So, that's helpful. I'm curious if they sell, like, sensors for these things, not to, like, tell people to, like, shop on Amazon, but if there was a sensor for this, like, on Amazon that I could just, like, put up on my wall and be like, oh, the earth, like, the big one's coming.

Right. Yeah. Time to end up. That one's a nice use of it. I'm like, could we make this into a weapon? Oh, yeah. I said this for like a cop setting and then like, yeah. I just walk around.

Totally. Totally. No, I'm, I'm here for both uses. I want both. I want the machine that makes a sound and I want to be able to see on my little like radar thingy how often it's occurring. Yeah. But it makes sense because some houses do feel fucking off the whole time you live there.

And then you move somewhere else and it's just not like that. And this makes so much sense. And it's almost always older houses, which is really interesting. Which have like weird pipes and weird sounds. Or, yeah. I mean, my closest like ghost experience, I was having for like months. I heard someone walking around upstairs in my bedroom. Mm-hmm.

Just like I'd be a home alone. No one would be in the house. I'm just sitting downstairs working. Yeah. That's what I'm saying not all haunted houses. Right? Because it turned out that I did have a plumbing problem. Oh, really?

Once later. Yes. It's always the damn plumbing. That's crazy. I know. Yeah. My bathtub had like a tiny fissure in it and like water was dripping down. And it absolutely sounded like someone taking steps across the top of the house.

And that's why our number one hero, the most popular hero that's been created in like the last 40 years, a plumber named Mario. You know, because he's fighting off the evil spirits that we know we all sense that we're facing out there. We're finally giving him his flowers. Mario, come get your flowers, sir. It'll give you fireball powers. I was just going to say that. Tori, so wonderful having you, as always, on the podcast. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

Thanks for having me. This has been so much fun. You know, if you search Tori Glass, you can find me on the internet. If you search Portland, you can find me, IRL. I haven't been on social media very much just for like my own mental health. What's wrong? Is there something wrong with social media? But yeah, if you search-

Have infrasound coming out of it because that's the impression I'm getting. But yeah, if you search Tori Glass, all my socials will come up and I am occasionally on like Instagram and Blue guy. I don't really log into Twitter anymore, but yeah, you can find me if you search. Seeking, you shall find. Amazing. Is there a work immediate that you've been enjoying? Yeah, too. Just watched American fiction, which came out a couple of years ago, but I just watched this weekend. It's fucking amazing. And it's so, I don't know, I have never, I've never seen anything like it. It's just super, super fascinating, super funny. Like, the dialogue is super well written. Obviously, like, Jeffrey Wright is fucking incredible. And it's also got like Tracy Ellis Ross and

Issa Ray and like Sterling K. Brown. It's just like an incredible cast, an incredible script. Like, the topic is fucking hysterical. And like, I never heard about it. I don't remember if, like, I don't, online it says it came out different years. So I don't even know when it came out. But I was like, oh my God, I got to watch this. So I watched that.

It was like a fringe award type thing. Okay. It's so good. If you need something to watch, it's a little bit lighter, you know, this weekend. Strongly recommend. Highly recommend that one. And then my kid and I decided to watch my 13 year old. And I decided to watch Malcolm X for the first time, the movie.

I like obviously read the book and stuff. But it was like, oh, yeah, let's see this. Right. So we watched the whole thing. It's, you know, it's kind of long, obviously like Denzel Washington. Incredible. Can't be beat. And then at the end, after the movie sort of ends.

they put up a quote from Malcolm X about like the need for self-defense and like the like moral and ethical justification for like black people being able to defend themselves. I don't remember these specific quote. And then immediately after that they put up, they start scrolling up an MLK quote about the need for to be like to be peaceable in the way that we address these issues of systemic discrimination and injustice. And so we're just like sitting there, like, reading this. And it's like kind of going up in my 14-year-old, he's not 14 yet. He's almost 14. My kid, he goes, there are two wolves inside a black nationalist. Hey.

And I was like, oh, my God. That's so funny. I love you. And I'm like, oh, okay, he gets it. Sweet. This is good for me. That's great. What a fire line. I know. I know. I was like, well, I don't have a comeback to that, man.

Yeah, so, you know, there are two wolves inside a black nationalist, and I'm here for it. I think we need both wolves. I'm not going to lie. Amen. Yeah. Yeah. So that's me. Amen. Amen. I just gave you up for sound. I know, creepy boys. Don't do it. Stop. Where can people find you. Is there. work of media you've been enjoying. Yeah, I just watched the movie Vamps, which I had not even heard of. And it's like Alicia Silverstone and Kristen Ritter and stuff. And I was like, what? What is this? It's so funny and weird and random. They're like vampires. And one of them is like old and one of them, they're both in their 20s books wise. But they're, they were, one is from like

1800s. This sounds wild. And I was like, why am I loving this so much? The fashion, everything is so good. Turns out it's Amy Heckerling's second movie after Clueless. Oh, yeah, yeah. And it's so underrated. It's delightful, you guys. Please, if you haven't seen VAMPS, it's so sweet. Internet says it's free to stream on Tubey. That's where I saw it.

Perfect. I'm going to watch this. You might be wondering why I saw this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and I'm at the Sophia, T-H-E-S-O-F-I-A. Come see me do comedy in Portland and follow me in Instagram, I guess. There you go. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky, Jack O, B, the number one. Instagram, Jack, underscore O, underscore Brian. I'm going to try and get on threads so I can have a fourth

different handle that I can tell people about. Don't do it. Um, work media, I've been enjoying. I liked season two of beef. Oh, yeah. Which is, you know, different than season one. Did I like it as much as season one. Maybe not, but I enjoyed it. And it's got some, like, stuff about class in there that I thought was good and stuff about Korea that I thought was good. So go check, go check that out. All right. What's the hell? Go check that out. I love that. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zitegeist. We're at the Daily Zytegeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the

information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. When Miles is out, we like to ask super producer Justin Connor, is there a song, sir, that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, so this is pop out by Larry June featuring schoolboy Q. This beat is really low key. It's like buttery smooth. It's some real slow motion West Coast shit. It's like really fun to bump in your car and whatnot. So that track again is pop out by Larry June, featuring schoolboy Q, and you can find that in the footnotes. Foot notes. Foot notes.

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