The Daily Zeitgeist - Giuliani Drunk Driving The News Cycle? The Kids Are All White 1.24.19

Episode Date: January 24, 2019

In episode 315, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Lydia Popovich to discuss McDonalds new bacon happy hour, the Sweetheart shortage, Trump abandoning a State Of The Union at the House for elsewhere, the Trump administrations annoyance at Rudy Giuliani, the support for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's tax plan, a warning for our world and economy, and more! Plus the guys get a call in from Jared Holt of Right Wing Watch to discuss the Covington Catholic incident.FOOTNOTES: 1. McDonald’s Bacon Hour lets you “put a bacon on it” for free2. Nation braces for candy flirtation fail with Valentine’s Day Sweetheart shortage 3. MAGA Hats Are the Newest Form of Pre-Teen Rebellion4. The Language of the Trump Administration Is the Language of Domestic Violence5. ‘Trump, Trump, Trump!’ How a President’s Name Became a Racial Jeer6. Trump abandons plans to give State of the Union in the House, says he will look for another site7. AP sources: Trump, others agitated by Giuliani’s performance8. MULTIPLE White House aides are 'handling Rudy's f*** ups' as Trump tires of 'cleanup on aisle Giuliani' – but doesn't plan to fire him even though allies fear he goes on TV after drinking9. Poll finds broad support for Ocasio-Cortez’s 70% top-tax-rate proposal10. The super rich at Davos are scared of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's proposal to hike taxes on the wealthy11. Chilling Davos: A Bleak Warning on Global Division and Debt12. WATCH: I Love Hot Nights - Jonathan Richman Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's Thursday, January 24th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack to the Future 3. The bad one that's just a western for some reason. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles by Miles. Gray by Gray by Gray A fresh start over A different heart take

Only time will tell If we're second rate We'll make it better The second time around Just so you know Those Step by Step And a lot of those TGIF Theme songs Were written by the same guy.

Which is why they all sound like really whack blues songs. Like Full House and also Family Matters. Anyway, thank you to At Crispy Meme Donut, Christy Yamaguchi-Maine, for that Step by Step inspired. You know Alan Sick wrote some of his own theme songs? Really? Like which ones? I guess Growing Pains. Did he write that one? Yeah, I think so.

What's the Growing Pains one? No clue. And moving on, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian Lydia Popovich. Hello, hello. What's up? Let me just say that was a breathtaking rendition of the Step by Step theme. Thank you so much for picking that.

Honestly, some of those high notes like that was just that was beautiful like you stayed in like a falsetto yeah like head voice pretty consistently and i don't know if users and listeners at home understand how difficult that is to do so hats off are you a vocalist as well uh i sang in choir from like five till probably 14 and then i found weed and was like this seems like a waste of yeah uh and you went from singing to like yeah and i was like i was like oh again this this yeah no i'm never gonna be good enough you grew up in the bay area i did nice we were just up there beautiful place beautiful people yes yes i mean those are all things that are true yeah yeah there's terrible

things about there too yeah i mean like anywhere but i'm myopic and i i like to bury my head in the sand and only look at the nice things you know what's an overrated for me the amount of human shit on the street of san francisco i didn't see a single piece of human shit on a lot of comedians like to have what neighborhood were you in uh i didn't leave my hotel room there you go also if you were like within the confines of like a safe comedy festival, I'm sure that they had poop scoopers to make sure that people don't know. I felt like a lot of tweets from people in and around Skites Fest were like, had to walk over pee or poo.

And we went to a couple of venues. And then Trump in a letter to Nancy Pelosi was like, clean up the streets of San Francisco. It's disgusting. Yeah, he needs to go there. I also just feel like, also, have you been to a city? All cities are full of urine. That's why it's a city. If anything,

our street right here should take the PMP crowd. I know, man. Should be called Shit Avenue. I've walked by somebody shitting into his own hand on my way into work. Broad daylight.

Yeah. Now, I lived in San Francisco for too many years to count. Over seven. Let's say 15. That is too to count over seven let's say let's say that is too high for me let's say 15 i don't know after seven you're just like why am i here like we're doing what's happening uh but i lived on hate street uh off of hate street actually and i literally saw people shitting like on a weekly basis yeah okay where you're like oh oh okay okay i wanted to live the dream that this was a large dog uh right right it is it is not dogs uh definitely there's candy corn in it yeah

if he's lucky if it's been a good week yeah you know what i mean candy corn usually the body will process candy corn won't it i don't know not if you're running on crack okay yeah fucks up yeah fucks up your gut it's just a cluster of candy corn. All right, Lydia, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. Mickey D's is doing the bacon fries that we had been worried about for so long. They are a coming, you guys. A member of the Zeit gang got introduced to them early, so we all got a sneak peek. And yeah, we're all going to have to live our lives knowing that that's out there.

There is a sweetheart strout. We're going to talk about that. So the hard-hitting news up top. Yeah. Then we're going to bring in our good friend from Right Wing Watch, Jared Holt. And he is going to give us a little insight into how the Covenant Catholic story progressed over the past handful of days as the right wing kind of spun the media and the media let itself be spun like a good dancing partner. And we're going to talk about just various Trump things. His response to Nancy Pelosi about the State of the Union, his administration admitting

their apparent frustration with Rudy Giuliani and suspicion that he's drinking before interviews, all of that and more. But first, Lydia, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, God, that's a great question. I have several different devices, so it's like depending upon which device is probably what I've searched recently. But I will say this. I opened up a device that I use frequently and I didn't realize that Google is now just kind of suggesting things to you based on previous things. Oh, really? Something that I am obsessed with, someone I'm obsessed with is Dolly Parton. So almost every day I get served like some sort of news about Dolly Parton that I didn't ask for, but I'm so happy that I got.

So the latest is that she is taking five outfits from her vast collection of clothing that she has had over the years of performances. And she is bringing them to Los Angeles and putting them in the Grammy Museum because she's being honored as Grammy's Music Care Person of the Year. So you can go and see Dolly Parton's outfits

if you ever wanted to see Dolly Parton's outfits. If you ever wanted to see just how mesmerizing and how defying of gravity in science her body is, just go. I don't know. I think she probably has to bring her own dress molds because there's no way that those dresses can be put on a regular mannequin. Oh, I'm sure, right?

It's pretty phenomenal. And I've seen her stuff before because I'm an obsessed fan and I've gone to Dollywood and she has a whole museum that's two stories high and the bottom floor is just full of her outfits. Oh, okay. And it's pretty great. It's like glitter, rhinestone, Bob Mackie heaven.

It's the best thing. My question to you as a Dolly fan is what are you team that she is she covered in tattoos or she has scars? Why is she always covering her arms? So this is something that I've been asked about quite a bit. This is something that has been in the Dolly universe for quite some time um dolly parton does have tattoos she is not covered in tattoos she doesn't have a bodysuit underneath there she's not cut von d walking around in a sparkly dress right but she absolutely has tattoos she's actually

talked about it on several interviews and this past summer we actually got like a little special thing she was here in los angeles uh doing a bunch of stuff and she was getting her nails done and someone at the nail salon saw her and took a picture of her and she was wearing a mesh shirt and you can see the tattoos that have been much ballyhooed for a very long time and the center of her chest kind of going down between her breasts she has a series of roses and butterflies oh and they're subtle and they're small but they're there they're 100% there but she has them in a place that she can be covered she's also rumored to have an angel and I believe another butterfly on the side of her rib cage.

So everything she has is covered. But nothing on her arms? Nope. Nothing on her arms. She just likes to keep her arms covered. She is 73 years old, sir. You leave that lady alone. She wants to cover her arms.

I love Dolly Parton. That's why I'm always curious because that whole mystique began building. Why is she always so covered up? People say it's burns. People say it's tattoos. You perform for 70 years. You know what looks good on stage. You know what I mean?

Dip yourself in diamonds. Let that light reflect. She has stuck by the long-sleeved dress very strongly. Not a lot of people are rocking the long-sleeved dress. Yeah, she's also- Not many people can, though.

12 pounds, so she's freezing. That's true. At all times. How tall is Dolly Parton? So Dolly Parton is like 5'3 and a good day. I met her, and I was in heels, and she was in heels, and she still only came to my shoulder. Right, right, right. Yeah, and that was with full wig and heels.

Right, right. So she's a teeny tiny little bird. Have we seen her wigless? There are pictures of her back in the day wigless. The best thing you can see if you want to see a wig situation is when they did the whole, was that ALS, the ice bucket challenge Dolly Parton did it and did it to herself on a wig which is hilarious to see Dolly Parton in a wet

ass wig and it's going to be like the most casual we've ever seen her she's wearing like a sweater and jeans and she's like at home in Nashville and then she dumps a bucket of ice on her head and it is amazing I love Jolene at half speed yes one of my favorite things there dolly yeah i love jolene at half speed yes one of my favorite things there's so many things there's lovely remixes of jolene that

come out but specifically at 33 on the 45 yeah yeah that's just funky yeah what is something you think is underrated lydia um alone time okay being alone i feel like especially here in los angeles everyone's got this this fear of missing out. There's always a party to go to. There's always an event to see. And I'm a comic, so everybody's like, you got to be out. You got to be out standing around watching other people do comedy. You got to be with friends.

You know what I mean? And I am just, I love being alone. I love being by myself and quiet on the couch in a chair. You know what I mean? Watch a 90 Day Fiance. Sure. On the couch. Yes. In a chair. Yep. You know what I mean? Watch a 90 Day Fiance. Absolutely. 100%. I was keeping your tweets.

I'm from the same planet. Yo, that thing just changed my life. I threw my back out over Christmas and went into a spiral. If you ever want to feel good about yourself and relationship choices. And the relationship you're in. Yo, watch that show. I know. It is bonkers. all i can do is

preach that gospel did you grow up a single or only child or do you have siblings yes and no here's the here's it's a trick answer so i i have one brother and we are 11 years apart oh he was born when i was 13 oh wow so i was an only child yeah and then i have a brother right right you know what i mean so functionally you grew up an only child completely like my the way that i was raised like my parents were together i had a mom and dad in the house they fought all the time it was crazy but it was just me and then when he was born my parents were together for like another two years and then they were apart so he had such a different life so we both had our own only childhood yeah and then but we also are

really close and have a great bond like we went from like me being a second mom to me being like a best friend yeah that's great we get along really well he's awesome everybody should have like a I mean I guess that's why the big brother and big sister foundation exists is so you can have somebody who's like a mentor that age difference from you who's looking out for you that's just someone who started smoking cigarettes two years before you. Somebody gets something under their belt. I mean, my brother didn't start smoking weed until he was like 26. Oh my God. So I had tons

of years. I was just light years. You had like a collection. He's like, I just tried weed. You're like, okay, here you go. This is the bond you can finally inherit these treasures. Well, this is how long it was. It's like by the time he started smoking weed, weed had kind of got out in a fashion. So he started smoking concentrates, like started dabbing.

And I had to be like, so flowers. And then I was like, wait, dabbing is the future. It makes so much sense. Why am I wasting time and money on weed? So now we live in a beautiful world where we dab as a family. Exactly. Oh man, I wish I had siblings I could dab with. Although, shout out to siblings who are only a couple years older.

I had a great older sister who showed me the ropes. Because she was probably mentally like five years older than me, even though she was only two years older. Right. Older sisters rule. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Almond milk. Boom.

Not a fan. Okay. Sure. There's so many great non-dairy milk alternatives. First and foremost, coconut milk is amazing. Yeah. And I also should probably preface this by saying my only consumption of milk in general was in a smoothie or in a milkshake or in my coffee.

Sure. I'm not a glass of milk drinker. Not many sane people are. Right? Because milk is for baby cows, not for grown ass humans. Although it's weird in Japan. I love Japanese milk because it's so rich. I will drink a fucking glass of that.

I went to Japan recently for the first time. I went to Tokyo and I did not eat any dairy. Oh, no. I should have tried some milk. If you're not lactose intolerant, you should definitely. I'm not a big fan. I mean, I can, I fuck with cheese heavy, but I try not to just because I'm trying not to. But when I go to Europe, that's like all I eat.

I want to eat everything that is dairy there. I'm just like, oh, butter. Yeah, I'll have four slices by itself. Oh, what's this? Yogurt. Yeah, I'll take a pint. You know what I mean? Because it's so good.

But I never thought I should. I know I'm mad at myself. Next time I'm in Japan, I'm going to make it. So what other, what other non aside from coconut milk? Yeah, coconut milk, oat milk for coffee. I just had that oat milk. I turned my nose up at first, but honestly, it's great. It's so thick.

It's delicious. It's frothy. It really does something with the acidity of the coffee bean and turns it into this beautiful, lush beverage. Oh, I've never had it. Especially if you're drinking it hot. It's gorgeous. You talk about a bad use of almond milk coffee. I agree. It like wakes up.

It's fucking gross, man. It's disgusting. It makes all up and then it also just tastes like somebody literally threw some almonds into your coffee. Which like, if I wanted a Jamocha fudge almond situation, I'd have it. But no, I just want some coffee. I want it to be kind of creamy. So the oat milk is great.

I'm team oat milk and team coconut milk all the way. A coconut milk froth? Get out of here. Get out of here. Really? Oh, yeah. Get out of here. So we'll just leave it, and this show's going to be Lydia all by herself for the next 45 minutes. I'm going to just tip Dolly Parton and coffee.

We can do some breakdowns. You have 90 days. You know what I mean? i also watch love and hip hop okay if you want to get that drag race recap let's get that in yeah by the time you guys get back with your nespresso steamers and cartons of coconut milk we'll be sad we continue she'll already have her own show and finally lydia what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false uh plastic straws are not going to ruin the environment okay us laying off plastic straws isn't going to save the environment our problems are so much deeper than a plastic fucking straw the plastic straw is the new like six-pack holder from the 80s you remember when people use that

it became this symbol for like be responsible think about recycling right like every 10 years we come up with this one object that's like the devil, like this is going to solve it. It was plastic bags and now it's plastic straws. Like open up your eyes, you freaking sheeple. Like I just want a straw to drink my iced coffee. Like a plastic one is what I need. That paper joint gives me 12 seconds to drink my coffee before it disintegrates into like a paper mache project. Non-necessary. So you say that in the sense that it's one of those sort of items that people point

to as being the issue rather than addressing like a greater use of plastics, like on an industrial level, right? Absolutely. Where it's falling on the consumer level to be like, you need to solve our problems that are actually at an higher industry level. I mean, if we really want to be extra real, and this is controversial because I just talked about what a big weed smoker I am, I'm also super annoyed by all of the new rules and regulations around medical marijuana. So we're outlawing and demonizing straws, which is basically one cylindrical piece of plastic and a biodegradable paper sleeve and or biodegradable plastic that maybe takes longer time. But now we have medical marijuana in several states and we have put all these things into place. So now we have all this excessive packaging. packaging so in order to get your flowers or to get your concentrated or get your vape pen there's usually two to four pieces of plastic that you have to char through to get to your product and

all that stuff is being thrown away right so like let's look at the bigger problem which is the use of plastics we could also talk about like it on a much bigger level like what about the amount of energy that is like being put into support servers that like handle all of our internet stuff and handles all of the data like think about like the digital traffic and the plastic and like the output like there's much bigger issues sure that if we really wanted to make a difference we should charge towards it's like when when uh power companies utility companies like you everyone should be using those in like those twisty light bulbs right instead of those other ones because that's really the problem yeah that's the problem that Yeah, again, so you're seeing,

because sometimes people take things literally on this show and they're going to be like, you know, plastic is a problem. Not to say that plastic is not a problem, but stop trying to put it on at the consumer level when things can be done at a much higher level. But hey, you know, regulations are present. That's a third rail word to some capitalists.

So we're not going to fix it one straw at a time. And for me, like plastic, I mean, not to say again, yes, it's'm also fix it one straw at a time and for me like plastic i mean not to say again yes it's an issue yes it's a problem but there are just other things that i wish people would mobilize against with as much veracity and ferocity yeah i don't know if those are words i just mix them up uh with they do with straws like let's make sure that cops don't kill black people yeah like let's make sure that like i don't know children aren't raped by pop stars like let's make sure that women are heard like't know, children aren't raped by pop stars. Like, let's make sure that women are heard. Like, there's much other issues.

And I'm not saying that those aren't being covered, but like. Yeah, let's not try and raise trans people out of the military. Yeah, like miss me with your straw crisis. Right. Like, I want one. Right. Man, I really tried to make the paper straw work. You can't.

Until I fucking. You can't. I was eating paper at the end. You literally literally it is not a joke you have 12 seconds to drink out of that straw before it disintegrates it's the silliest someone should just step up and be like the beats headphones of the straw game with like your stainless steel straw and everyone's like oh i got my my fancy straw i don't know but then yeah and then everyone's sipping up bacteria everywhere that's disgusting not properly do you know how

we got plastic straws because Because paper straws were trash. Right before, right? Yes. Yeah, that's how we got them. Like if we're going to do it, like the adult sippy cup is the only thing that I've seen that's like close to coming up with it. Like Starbucks came out with like literally like a little sippy cup so you don't like spill onto yourself.

Right. And there's also the like metal straws. But again, you have to keep track of those, keep those with you, rinse them out. Yeah. You know who I bet could make a really good alternative to plastic straws is those giant corporations who are responsible for destroying the environment in the first place. Totally. Yeah.

Maybe if they prioritized it instead of us having to do it one straw at a time. Like they said, 100 companies are responsible for 71% of global warming and climate change. But it's on us. Yes. You know what I mean? Put that straw down, buddy. You know what I mean?

Don't use that plastic bag. Hey, speaking of giant corporations, McDonald's is doing bacon fries. We talked about this last year. Yes. We saw there were rumors of very rabid McDonald's fans were like, they're testing bacon fries in this market. In the past, this market has been used to test for like much larger national rollouts of menu items. And behold, I think starting on the 30th, those bacon cheese fries will be available. And on top of that, they're

going to add like bake there. You can get bacon on like a Big Mac or Quarter Pounder. The only reason I bring this up is to promote this. On January 29th, next Tuesday, from 4 to 5 p.m. local time, McDonald's is having what they call the Bacon Hour, where they will let you add bacon to any item on the menu. You could put it on a Filet-O-Fish sandwich and really gross your friends out. Apple pie? Yeah, fuck it. Apple pie, McFl mcflurry whatever anything they will let you do it so you know just to keep all you stoners on red alert uh yeah it's happening and it's happening for free that's a good like marketing stunt although it's weird i still as much as i like talk about like oh that

would be cool i still need breakfast at mcdonald's you still only eat breakfast yeah that's like i haven't had like a non-breakfast item that wasn't fries in a pretty long time right the fries are so good though man the breakfast like the cult of breakfast at mcdonald's is something that i have never got into yeah i know it's fucking weird i'm not like even as a kid like i honestly didn't have breakfast at mcdonald's until i was like in my 30s right like it just wasn't a thing that like i was like why would i want this and then i had it i was like okay yeah you want to start your day off feeling like you have something wrong with you for me it started off because my mom's japanese like i did not grow up eating traditional american breakfast food yeah i get that so i sort of began fetishizing like eggs and bacon and sausage and like a McMuffin type shit.

And then I used to play hockey. So you would wake up fucking wild early to go to practice. Yeah, yeah. And that was like the only thing. My practice would be over. It would be 7 a.m. Right. Totally.

And then my dad would be like, let's get McDonald's. My dad's black. So he was like, let's get McDonald's. And then from there, I was like, see, this is what I like. I would ask my mom to buy sausage. She's like, I don't know how to make that yeah or it's like i'm not doing that so then that's how for me it kind of turned into that but i know people that are also just you know red-blooded americans yeah no you're just fucking love this shit out of it and i don't know what it is if it's a convenience thing if it's just like the proper msg and salt and fat

is just hitting your brain at the right you know levels that it becomes addictive but yeah i mean i've definitely like enjoyed the shit out of mcdonald's over my lifetime don't get me wrong it's just not something that like no i know because it's one of those things like the cult of bacon yeah it's very similar you said there's the cult of mcdonald's breakfast where people are like will just spill their blood in the street oh yeah for sure i'm more fascinated by people that are like i eat a big mac every single day for the last like 97 years like there's some dude that has like eaten a big mac every single day yeah warren buffett eats mcdonald's breakfast every single morning and

he's right still alive and doing well uh last i heard some say he's doing well yeah i know i have a theory about like your body can be like if you do anything in repetition your body can adapt to it right yeah that's right so it's like if you had five cheerios and you know a bowl full of sugar every single day and right you know for your whole life and that's what your body knows i think it would be more detrimental if you're like the one day you don't have that bowl of sugar right right no you had a friend whose grandma like only ate uh hot dogs and drank diet pepsi yeah in like the last 20 years of her life up until she was like 98. Damn. Honestly, I'm not going to lie. I'm kind of looking forward to that future.

Yo, but there was... Yeah, she was like, I just have my cigarette. Yeah, man. When I hit 60, if I'm still kicking, I'm going to do all the things that I don't want to do. Right, there you go. That I tried, I'm going to be like, oh, no, no, guess what?

Yeah, yeah, no. I definitely smoke a joint every single morning before I talk to anybody. By the way, I'm not saying it's all genetics. Your choices can impact this. But at that point, I'm 60. I put in these good years. You know what I mean?

Let's fuck it. Let's ride out. Let's do this. I just want to wild out and do whatever I want and not be asked questions about it. Perfect. Briefly, let's talk about Sweethearts because this is the drought that absolutely nobody was going to notice if we hadn't mentioned it. Nobody gives a shit about these things,

but those shitty pieces of edible sidewalk chalk, as you wrote, Miles, those are not going to be around this Valentine's Day. Yeah. Fake news. Right. So remember we talked about how Necco wafers went under, and I was like, good riddance to them shits. And then so that same company that went under the New England Confectionery Company,

they were bought by Spangler Candy Company. So somehow this company was like, we need to keep the Necco wafer alive. But they said this year they are not going to be producing the Sweetheart, which means that the Brax brand of conversation hearts has picked up the mantle. And apparently it's like a lot of people are buying it because there are, there's just sweethearts are very, there's not much supply right now. Right.

But again, I don't know. There's not some shits that I really ever looked forward to. Uh, there were always something like you would get and you would immediately throw away. Nobody eats those. Right.

Right. Well, you eat them once and then you're like, Oh fuck. You eat one. You. Right? Well, you eat them once and then you're like, oh, fuck. You eat one and you're like, what the fuck is this? But these are very important

to the second grade economy of exchanges of, you know. Somebody just needs to put out an article that says they have peanuts in them and everything would be fine. Right, right. No, no, no, no, no.

This is some old fake news. This is some like, oh, that other company wanted business. Do people give a shit? Let's pretend that there's not enough. And then we'll spur sales. This is a lovely marketing spin and a wonderful job by the Brax Candy Company and their PR department. Kudos to them.

And that is what we're here for. To perpetuate the marketing spins of giant food companies. So, yeah, let's take a quick break and a word from our sponsor, the Brax Candy Company. We will be taking a quick break. Hopefully this isn't the Brax campaign that this ad is, but we'll be back in a moment.

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We want to give white boys the benefit of every doubt. Let's wait. Let's wait for the whole video to come out. Right. Although Botham Jean had weed. So he should have been shot. Right. What the fuck is that?

Anyway. So, Jared, yeah, like you were you were mentioning like, you know, this was this wasn't just some organic thing. Like PR firms were hired and there was a coordinated effort to begin to sort of spin the coverage of this. Yeah, if this story seems chaotic or confusing or like nobody knows what's going on, that is on purpose. because whenever it's a PR strategy, whenever you can flood the zone with bits and pieces and various claims of information, that provides a solid foundation to build a new narrative. And that's exactly what we've seen develop over,

what is it, day four, day five of this story? And so it started off with everyone just sort of initially seeing the first clip of Nicholas Sandman in, yeah, Nathan Phillips. He was playing his drum and you just see that shit eating grin in his face and you see all his classmates, you know, mocking him and things like that and just whatever, hooting and hollering and shit. And at first everyone was like, okay, look at this shit. Look at yet again, another group of MAGA clad young people harassing this Native American elder. And then suddenly people were like, well, we need to see the whole tape. You know, they didn't mob him.

He came up to them. And therefore, this kid was standing his ground and just being polite or whatever. Stand your ground. Yeah. And literally motherfuckers were saying, stand your ground. That's when I was like, you lost me there. Yeah, it was like, and literally motherfuckers were saying, stand your ground. That's when I was like, you lost me there. But yeah, yeah. So kind of like walk us through sort of the evolution of how we got to, you know, looking at this video to suddenly people like, you know, Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar and The View saying, I think we jumped to, I think we jumped too quickly. We jumped the gun, guys. Yeah, The Atlantic, the columnist who wrote about it was like, I'm gonna sit the next outrage wave out, you guys. I made a bad decision. So yeah, let's talk about how the story actually evolved. Yeah, so it was late afternoon

after the March for Life rally, which is a rally that takes place in DC every year where various religious organizations and schools, you know, bus in a ton of kids and a ton of activists into D.C. for a few days to fight against women's rights to reproductive health care. These group of kids from Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky were at the Lincoln Memorial, allegedly waiting on a bus, and they got into this altercation back and forth, maybe altercations too harsh of a word, like shouting match with black Hebrew Israelites, which anybody who lives in a major city has seen this group. They show up on street corners, yell inflammatory things, and seek to, you know, get attention. I sort of liken it to the Westboro Baptist Church.

So then in comes Nathan Phillips and some various indigenous activists that are in town for the Indigenous Peoples March. And, you know, they get in between the groups. Nathan Phillips is banging his drum and singing. And then you get to the point where this clip is filmed. That clip goes viral overnight into early Saturday. And media personalities watch the clip. If I remember right, it was about two minutes. And a lot of them, you you know reacted to what they saw which was incredible disrespect and it was just gross it just felt gross you know and then in comes this right-wing you know media PR campaign that you know is being ginned up by this PR firm in Kentucky called Run Switch PR. And it starts with people like Joey Salads, who is a right wing YouTuber who is infamous for pissing into his own mouth for views. And,

you know, sort of filters up into people like the Mike Cernovich's of the world, the Jack Posobiec's of the world, people who already have sort of a questionable credibility because of involvement with conspiracy theories and outlets like Infowars, they pick up the story. And then from there, it gets picked up in Reason Magazine. And that is really sort of what lit the match on this. And once it was in reason, it shot up through conservative media. And, you know, with each new additional video angle that came out, there were more and more cries for reporters to retract their claims or to correct their claims. But what's important to remember is no amount of additional footage or content changed the facts of what happened in that video. And what people originally reacted to still stands. It still

happens. You know, really, this is just sort of like a classic story of major media outlets and, you know, what we believe to be credible reporters getting thrown off their game by a wide-scale misinformation campaign and sort of in the process, whether consciously or not, granting a luxury to these students that you don't see media grant to people in other cases, like most prominently when young black men get shot by the

police right the yeah i feel like functionally or even the contextually the only thing that i saw that changed was maybe the idea that these kids swarmed nathan phillips and that he approached them but even in that context right like when they were like well we had to just sort of like we were just responding in the way we thought. I mean, even then, I don't even think that is the decent way. Right. If you're if you're going to objectively try and not avoid any kind of conflict, you just walk away. Yeah. But rather than everybody has their MAGA hats on, they're all turnt up. They're doing the chop and saying all kinds of other things.

And I mean, yeah, they're doing the tomahawk chop in the background. That is like, how is that misinterpreted i am sorry right misinterpret but whether you're a child or whether you are 172 like i think it's pretty easy to identify disrespect yeah exactly and i think fundamentally we should try to teach like treat each other which is much respect as we humanly can even when we're in moments of debate because i think debate is important right and some you're gonna need to have conversations about things that's decidedly different than being accusatory being aggressive being disrespectful being dismissive right and whatever package you want to wrap around that but like the bottom line is this like they all had red maga hats on right and like i'm sorry but like groups of young white men are not known to really be like great yeah well and

they also I mean in that situation approaching people of color like oh yeah we're just supposed to be like oh these poor guys like oh you mean the future tormentors of America you mean the next generation of oppressors yeah and you think about the history of white uh intimidation against yeah groups of people of color who are trying to demonstrate or are trying to protest. Like everyone was running all those historical photos of how, look, shit has not changed. Right. You know, like there is a history of this, of people trying to have their voices heard and then being intimidated. So I think it falls in line with that. And then this idea that they're, you know, I think what Sarah Huckabee Sanders, like, oh,

how quickly we love to destroy a child's life. You'll miss me with that shit. Because when these kids are brown at the border and you're splitting them the fuck up from their families, where is that empathy? What about the children that are in cages that are dying because we won't give them water because their parents are trying to make passage for a better life for their children? It's really frustrating. And I think there's a lot of people who are instantly – I the other thing too, is we do live in an era, right? Where we have acknowledged that people are sort of bringing their own shit to even looking at a given image or video. Of course. And I think that that's why people were able to play around with that. Cause some people saw, Oh, I just saw a kid smiling. Other people were like, I know that

shit eating grin because I've been on the other end of that shit eating grin in my life. And other people were like, well, I don't know. We still have to see. And I think they were able to play around with a lot of people bringing their own sort of viewpoint to that and sort of missing the overarching point, like you said, Jared, is that we know disrespect when we see it. And they're not having their lives destroyed. I don't see any of these kids, they're being run out on a rail from anywhere. If anything, they're being shamed for their shameful behavior right yes and i think again but but the right-wing victim self-victimization machine fired up like real quick uh and we got to this point yeah yeah we know what the mega hat symbolizes they know what the mega hat symbolizes this is apparently a

popular thing for groups of white high school students to do is buy mega hats and like there was a group that went to the national museum of african-american history wearing it and like it's meant as a provocation it's like a transgressive act and he's wearing it with a shit-eating grin on his face and not, as Tucker Carlson suggested, like a scared look on his face. Motherfucker, please. Get out of here. Yeah, and then to that point, too, he has a PR firm, right? Nathan Phillips doesn't.

Yeah. Cut to Nick Sandman on the Today Show on Wednesday and then telling Savannah Guthrie that he's not sorry for what happened. He just says, I wish things happened differently. And then now this has been deployed as another piece in the culture war too because now i think there's rumors that like trump might have them the covington high school kids to the white house or some shit i don't know if that's true i've been i've read things like that but of course that would happen yeah i mean the hat is a symbol of Trump, and it symbolizes hatred. That's just the point that we're at with this president. We have an actual person who got into power via hatred. There's no disputing that. face of you know somebody who is there explicitly because they are part of a oppressed minority like just miss me with that shit about them like fucking like needing our sympathy and the benefit

of our doubt they're being intentionally transgressive uh and you know this is part this is a school by the way that uh has a history of just a sorts of weird shit. Like they have students at basketball games wear blackface. Yeah. Like pebblies. Well, they said, well, we have all theme nights. We have whiteout, blueout, blackout. And so we're just showing our school spirit. That's what they said on Fox and Friends.

Yeah. And again, when you have people in all black, but you're painting on a smiley face and eyes. Yes. You're not just blacking your body. You're putting on blackface. Yeah. And especially when then you go there. Maybey face and eyes. Yes. You're not just blacking your body. You're putting on black face. Yeah. And especially when then you go there.

Maybe skip the blackout. Yeah. Skip the blackout. Maybe skip the blackout. Paint your body white, blue. Great. Yeah. There's too much history.

Skip the red out. Skip the yellow out. Skip the brown out. Yeah. Let's just do purple out, green out. Do impossible skin tones. And I bet when they're doing the blue out, they don't have a big smiley face like painted on their face.

Like it's a minstrel cartoon. Well, right. And again, too, like even the images you've seen of them, like there were students in blackface, like just like trying to like, I don't know, provoke a black basketball player in the opposition team at a game. You're like, come on. And like, you know, a lot of people, I don't know how much of these anecdotal or anecdotes are true, but other people have come out with stories of like people who had gone there in the past and like, you know, this is not really surprising for this school.

Right. Right. I mean, you know. Oh, I mean, like this can all like feel very frustrating and you like look to media outlets in this country, especially the big ones, and you wonder like how this could happen. especially the big ones, and you wonder, like, how this could happen, but the fact is, like, this thing, whether it's, you know, the photos of the students in Blackface Get Up, or, you know, this original clip, or various, you know, other details that are coming out about how these boys behaved at the march, or things that have happened at the school like it's all very clear but it's

sort of a big problem that we have in our reporting right now which is that you know right-wing causes are able to completely manipulate reporters and change the conversation entirely and in the process abandon all responsibility for anything shitty that's happening or any problems in this country that we need to have an honest conversation about. Right. It's happening with the quote unquote debate over the wall. Like now suddenly Nancy Pelosi is being depicted as, you know, just one side in this debate over like whether the wall needs to be funded and the government shutdown. And, you know, they're the Democrats not willing to entertain any ideas on funding a monument to racism is now, you know, that's just one side

of the debate. This is going to happen in a world where, you know, the president himself is, his name is used as a taunt by school bullies and people who are like harassing someone for racist reasons. Yeah. In a, coming off a year where the, you know,

white people committed the most extremist violence ever this last year. Right. So, you know, shit like that's on the rise. And also, I think there also needs to be just as much, you know, smoke for these parents and teachers, too.

You know what I mean? Oh, 100%. Because like, yeah, I get to a certain point, you know, when you're a kid, you really don't know shit. But also you need that's where mentors, teachers, parents need to step in also to make sure, you know, that fucking kids are raised right or Or learn the basic, the minimum for respect. I agree with you 100%. But that's why I call them the future oppressors of America.

Because within their constructs of their school and their community, they are probably the stalwarts of the community. They're upstanding citizens. They're modeling all of the behaviors that they're watching. They live in a community that has, like, the protection of the cloak of unaccountability that Trump has been giving people you know what I mean like to your point Jack like that's exactly what people are saying is they're going around and being like well the president supports me so why should I finally have I finally have to stop pretending that I don't feel this way oh yeah right if if Barack Obama was like yo smoke blunts every day right I would be like that's what exactly yeah

that's what Obama said yeah you know what I mean like like that's what exactly that's what obama said yeah you know what i mean like that that's another other dimension of confidence to what you do or to have you know uh you can be sanctimonious about shit because you're like oh well he's on my side right truth is on my side you know all these little communities that are very hateful that have been you know slowly burning that oil that same tallow that they you know killed a while ago are now pouring vats of it onto it because they can and nobody is stopping them you know what i mean but to jared's point that's the sad part about how we talk about it in the media what we amplify right the stories that we tell

the spin that people forget how much money is going on behind this right right and to your point you know i'm with you miles where it's like at some point, like these kids are just kids. And I always hope that, you know, instead of getting doxxed or like death threats or whatever, that this could just be a teachable moment. But we're seeing like the reaction here was not to have a teachable moment. The reaction was to hire a PR firm and run a media operation that they're using to just bludgeon reporters over the head and gaslight them entirely. Yeah. And let him go on today's show and be like, I'm not sorry. Right. I'm sorry that people are upset.

I'm sorry that it could have gone a different way. Hindsight. I was standing my ground. It's like, and he looked man, like he looks so like lawyers ran through all the words he can and can't use and shit. But again,

this is where, you know, when this kind of story now enters culture war territory, that's when all this shit mobilizes around it. And we get a situation like this. So. Right. And just speaking of the parents there,

there was a mother of one of the boys who wrote to heavy.com and was like, it was shameful. Did you witness the black Muslims yelling profanities and videotaping to get something to further your narrative of hatred? So we see where their true colors lie. The black Muslims. They turned the black Israelites into the black Muslims. Yeah, who are already a problematic group.

I mean, nobody's taking from them. Yeah, but they're just like, yeah, no, Muslims. Buzzword Buzzword Black We love Fighting against that shit They're trying to turn that shit

Into The crusades But yeah Again you know It's important to look Where everybody's empathy's going Right Because it's

You know We've shown in the last year Things happen when you're Just a white teenager We can forget about it You know Brett Kavanaugh Just liked his beers And we can just act like You know it's a youthful transgression but you know this is

the state of things right all right jared and uh we're gonna have to have you back on to discuss the q anon stuff because i mean i'm very curious as to what people who believe that Donald Trump is teaming up with Mueller to play this long game to put Obama and Clinton in jail. I'm curious how they're like, bending their mind around that. And that's something I know you keep up with. Yeah, I mean, believing in this conspiracy theory to begin with already takes a lot of you know mental gymnastics that someone has to put themselves through but as more news about you know the muller probe is coming out by the day and you know rudy giuliani is getting on tv and admitting that he just loves to do crimes uh you know this this community is getting very it's getting a little weird and it was already weird to start.

So if you think like what's weird for the weirdos, that's sort of where it's at. But something I've been watching and tracking, they currently are floating around this theory that Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who has missed a few days on the Supreme Court for health reasons, has already died, and that Democrats are currently seeking out a body double to stand in for her. So it's like that movie Dave. Right. With Sigourney Weaver.

Yeah. That's not a documentary? Kevin Kline. I thought that was based on facts. I remember he had those robot arms, and he said, I once caught a fish this big. And it was like 40 feet across. All right.

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And we're back. And just a couple stories from Trump world to check in on. So Trump's response to Nancy Pelosi on the State of the Union, the Union, she said that there are security concerns. People speculate she was being a little trollish, but there are obviously security concerns when you have, what is it, the five most powerful people? The first five people in line for the presidency? The entire government, basically. You have the Supreme Court. You have the Joint Chiefs. And then Kiefer Sutherland in some room across town just to keep us safe. entire government basically you have the supreme court yeah the joint chiefs and then keifer

sutherland in some room across town just to keep us safe a big comical clock just ticking away right exactly exactly but so trump's response to her was just so funny to me because so he he shot back there are no security concerns regarding the state of the union address therefore i will be honoring your invitation and fulfilling my constitutional duty to deliver the important information to people in congress it's just it's such a there are no secure it's such a small thing because okay the way any professional person anyone who knows like just how logic works would be like we recognize the immense importance of the state of the union and the security challenges they're in and like we are working to make sure it's safe to just come

back and say there are no security concerns no security concerns at all at the white house regarding the state of the union owned now take that pelosi there are no security concerns what else you got it's just such now next level like it's a good example of you know why people think he's playing 4d chess because i mean he's not but it's like it's effective because it just is so exasperating so throws you off you're just like what the fuck do you mean there are no security? By saying something that's plainly not true. Right. It's like playing chess with somebody and their move is just to wipe your pieces off the board with their arms.

And then they're like, this is actually 4D chess. And you're like, nah, man. I'm playing chess and you don't know what the fuck you're doing. You don't even understand how chess works. You just bashed my shit off the board. Okay. Apparently Pelosi has responded and been like, well, you can't do it in Congress. So there's some back and forth taking place on that.

So he's going to do a State of the Union from somewhere, maybe Covington Catholic. We'll see. Oh shit, from their gym. I mean, I know this is an important thing and I know we want to, but like, he's just going to say a bunch of things that we don't fucking care about. Right. He's going to be like, everything things that we don't fucking care about. Right. He's not, he's going to be like,

uh, everything's great. Uh, McDonald's is wonderful. Um, it's bacon. Did you know that there's a bacon? He should have it at bacon hour.

Oh shit. Like if you, you know what I mean? Like every, and now everyone forget about these children that we've killed. Forget about all of our problems. Everybody gets bacon. Like you guys hear about bacon hour.

Oh God. Well, it's actually, it's what Stephen Miller is going to write about immigrants right it's really what that state of the union is

it's not even Trump it's just going to be true crime like just stories in great detail about murders remember the last one yeah

it was just the the eight minutes I called it Donald Trump's menagerie of villainous immigrants yes when he was like

now look at this behold a family whose child was taken by ms-13 yes it's important to keep in mind guys that uh immigrants commit crime at a far lower rate than native-born americans uh so just keep that in mind white males and red hats right another story from inside the halls of power at the Trump administration is they're apparently frustrated with Rudy Giuliani's performance on these morning shows. How good did he be? He's going on.

And I even said a couple of days ago, like when we were watching the clips, I was like, he's drunk, right? Like that. Like he just looks drunk. He's acting drunk. His mind is working like that of a drunk person. Well, when you slouch in a TV interview,'re fucked up yeah man yeah and apparently they have the same concerns because you know some people have speculated that it's by design he's going on and just like throwing all this crazy shit out there and then retracting it so that it softens the blow for worse news they know

is dropping later on but it turns out that the Trump administration is just like, man, what the fuck is this guy doing? When we're saying, wait, what is he doing? They're saying, wait, what is he doing at the same time? Everyone's like, wait, what's happening? Did he just admit that we were talking about the Trump Tower deal in Moscow up until November? And the Daily Mail, which we've admitted is a garbage tabloid. Daily fail.

It usually actually has a rightward lean, but it's added to my existing suspicions about his drinking by saying that basically there are people in the administration who are concerned he's going on the show's drunk. My suspicions aren't based on nothing. that he can't remember if he had a couple of drinks before or after going on Hannity, has been spotted drinking at his favorite cigar bar before appearing on TV later that day, and reportedly didn't get brought on by Trump early on in his administration, like after the initial transition, because Trump and Pence were worried he was drinking too much. Right. And even other journalists were like, I got a weird call late at night from Rudy Giuliani and he was drunk. Yes. And like, they'll put out stories.

So this is like a very common theme with the old mayor. Wow. America's mayor. I think I'm here for it. Yeah. He's a mess. Yeah. Like, that comes,

because you got to think about like why people drink, right? Right. Outside of just like alcoholism. Sure. Right right like it starts somewhere and it comes from somewhere and you think that like alcohol is an escape when you're desperate when everything becomes so unmanageable you have to put like like a veil over yourself in order to like walk through so like he must know right like you know what i mean like where he's at and he's just like fuck it like you know when you have a you've had a job for so long you just don't give a shit anymore and you're like fucking fire me right and you just show up like whatever you just like don't do the closing duties you

know what i mean you tell your man you know you fuck someone in the walk-in with the door open you're just like who cares like what do you you think somebody else wants to run this grill at this hour i don't think so like i think he's just like, fuck it. Did I have drinks before or after the cigar bar? I don't know. Who's going to come take my keys? Because it's more incendiary to step down and be like, I'm not a part of this. I've been a part of it.

I've been asked to be adjacent to things I fundamentally don't agree with. Or I do agree with, and I can't keep from telling you that I don't not agree and you know what I mean? Like, this is just like a wild cry for help. Yeah. I mean,

people who have alcohol issues are not the best judges of their own performance on things. Oh, that's when you know you've reached that point. He thinks he is nailing

these fucking interviews. Yeah, man. Or is he just knows he's fucking, because remember on one of the Sunday shows he was like, I don't care if it says

here lies Rudy Giuliani, he lied for, I don't care if it says, here lies Rudy Giuliani. He lied for Donald Trump. Right. Like he was also like, was he showing his hand there? Like sort of to your theory that he's like, fuck it. Yeah. Fuck it.

He's like, I think St. Peter will understand. He's like, I'll be able to explain it to St. Peter. Yeah. Either that or he's got way worse shit that he's hiding for him. And he's just like, I don't know, man. One of these two things, one of these eggs is going to crack and i don't know which one it is it can't be me yeah right also how do you fire somebody who you're not even paying right that's the other amazing part to this dimension of the story is he's doing it for free yes he's putting his shit on the line for

free yeah and i wonder if it's it must be that he just he hasn't been relevant since the 2008 primaries to become president right so i guess maybe that's what was going on. Yeah. Or maybe he thinks this is the road to presidency. Yeah, he might. He's like, I need to show the American people that I am completely inadequate. I need to show them I am off my GD rocker. Right.

Yeah. And I'm good on camera. Yeah. That's true. I'm an entertainer. He's like, this is apparently what they're into. That's his drunk equivalent of dropping. You're fired. You know, he's just like, I'm shit face. I'm an entertainer this is apparently what they're into that's his drunk equivalent of dropping you're fired

I'm shit faced maybe it's a Moscow tower there's no plans though that's the thing everybody's acting like there isn't there wasn't most people are really bad at acting drunk Miles is really good at impersonating a drunk guy

just live how you live dude spend enough time around drunk people bad at acting drunk miles is really good hey dude you know this is fucking drunk you gotta just live how you live dude i've spent enough time around drunk people and finally i want to talk about aoc's tax plan uh just because there are three stories the three top stories if you google aoc 70 tax on people making 10 million million or over. The top three stories are from Bloomberg, Forbes, and the Wall Street Journal. And they're the case against Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's 70% tax rate. A 70% income tax rate for the super rich. There may be a better way. And then the crippling cost of 70% tax rates. So it's just

worth noting here that there is 59% support among registered voters for this idea. 45% among Republicans. This is a very popular ideal among people who are not being paid by corporations that are named after billionaires, like Bloomberg, Forbes, and then I guess Wall Street Journal. Mr. Wall Street Journal. Right. Well, they're just named after an industry that's only God is making billionaires. Industry rags for the billionaires yes and meanwhile over in Davos the Coachella for billionaires is meeting and everybody's shook about this shit they are really worried about how popular it is about how much attention AOC is getting Scott Minard who is the global chief

investment officer for the 265 billion billion Guggenheim partners, said in an interview, quote, It's scary. By the time we get to the presidential election, this is going to gain more momentum. And I think the likelihood that a 70% tax rate or something like that becomes policy is actually very real. NAOC just clapped back on Twitter. It's wild that some people are more scared of marginal tax rate than the fact that 40% of Americans struggle to pay for at least one basic need like food or rent. So yeah, it's just, this is something we frequently, or I frequently find myself saying when political progress is made that it's like, oh, somebody just decided

to start telling the truth or saying the things that are actually representative of what people want. Well, you look at this new wave of politicians who are not accepting PAC money, who are doing only small ball, small donor donations. They are not beholden to Wall Street like the last generation of politicians who are fine obscuring those numbers. And, you know, or maybe just being like, we need to help working people, but not being like, we need a 70% marginal tax on the highest earners. Yeah. You say vague generalities, but meanwhile, you're taking all of your campaign funding

from these Wall Street. Right. And to get, I mean, just to give you context, like historically the U.S. has had very high tax brackets, like for people like this, like in Eisenhower's day, it was like 91%. Yeah.s has had very high tax brackets like for people like this like an eisenhower's day was like 91 percent yeah you know what i mean and that also who to thunk it coincides with the time the middle class in america was the strongest is when the highest earners are paying their share yes and this isn't to say 70 of what you you make is tax it says when you hit 10 million dollars okay after that we're taxing everything at 70%. Yes.

Oh, you're really going to cry about your $10 million every year? Exactly. Again, that- You make $10 million a year. A year. A year. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I couldn't make $10 million if you gave me $10 million worth of scratchers. You know what I mean? It's wild. I'm going to need you to think more about your personal potential. If you don't see it, you'll never make it. That's true. You know what? Those are limiting thoughts. You know what I mean it's wild I'm gonna need you to think more about your personal potential if you don't see it you'll never make it that's true you know what

those are limiting thoughts you know what I mean no I have a lot of resistance around money as Abraham was saying you know I'm trying to release those as a young smart man of color I just I need you to believe

more in yourself yeah that's true you're not gonna get that chat you look white passing so I'm focusing that just at you I just I need you no no no

you're right you're right I need you to live and believe in yourself I'm getting that okay the um and then there's other sort of Jack I gotta go got to go, man. I'm getting $70. There are other more mainstream stories coming out. A panel of economists was asked if this idea

of a 70% tax rate would stimulate the economy without hurting American investment or some shit like that. But the way they worded it suggested that it would be for people who made over the current highest tax bracket, which is $650,000. Right, right, right, right. And economists were like, yeah, that's probably not a great idea. So then people reported it like 70% tax rate. So there's a conspiracy going on here. Like American media, American corporations are going to fight with every fiber of their being

to shoot this idea down. And it's going to require somebody with direct access to American ears, like the daily zeitgeist, like AOC, to actually just keep communicating the truth despite what wealthy corporate interests want. Yeah. Or when you think about, again, a stat that we were trying to bring up last week about the richest 1% own 50% of the stocks held by American households. Think about that shit. Of course, they don't want the dollars after 10 million to be taxed. Yeah. So again, another miss me with that shit.

AOC security detail needs to be stepped up, whatever the fuck it is. Security issues. Yes. I know, man. The be stepped up, whatever the fuck it is. Security issues. I know, man. The way she's coming for these capitalists next. You don't think they're willing to just fucking push her car off a cliff or whatever? All they can do is dig up old college videos so far.

I mean, it's been incredibly... I hope it's her with her shirt off and a calculator like, what up? We just made so much money at this party i hope it was cracking yeah yes but if anything i mean it's inspiring like i am i'm my heritage is i am mexican and i'm russian i i openly identify as a latina that's just who i am i was raised by a mexican mother so for me i think it's really empowering to see her in office because she is speaking about things that traditionally latina women don't speak about traditionally latitionally, Latina women do kind of hold the money in their household for like household

expenses, but that it's directly given to them from men. Right. Right. So and that's not an unlikely story for most women. I'm speaking at women because I'm a woman, but I think fiscal responsibility and fiscal health is something that we don't think a lot about. And I think in general, most people that are in lower price brackets don't even understand what their tax bracket is or what the real impact of that is on their day-to-day sort of living in life. And the idea of creating wealth and exercising

financial health isn't something that we're doing. So I'm excited to see you're speaking so openly about these things because I'm hoping that we'll continue to inspire people of my generation and younger to be a little bit more aware, if not entirely more aware, of the power that your money holds and realizing that there is incredible power in knowing how your money works, knowing how much you pay in taxes, knowing how to invest, knowing how to save, understanding all those words. It's more than just going to a financial planner and dropping something off, right? It's about really understanding how to build wealth for you and the next generations after you. And see those opportunities too. Yeah. It's so important. And honestly, if we're talking about communities of color uprising and having more influence, that's what we need to do. You know what I mean? We have traditionally send money outside of our immediate communities. You know, the amount of time that dollars are

made and spent within their communities before they go out to white owned businesses is incredible. Right. You know, so let's be responsible about this. Let's try to make less 10 million dollar making white people. Yeah. Right. Well, I think and again, her the way she's communicating the point is good, too, because it's opening people's eyes, especially as you say, even Republicans support it, because I think when you when you sort of take away the obscurity of saying 70% tax and say, no, if you a motherfucker making $10 million. And then immediately everybody goes, that ain't me. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, go for it.

Please. And then help give me some relief in my taxes. Because I'm sure everybody, they always look at their paychecks and you see where those deductions go and what you're like, where the fuck? Most people don't realize that like your tax bracket is a combination of things. Most people are getting taxed between 20 and 40% of their gross income. You know what I mean? Depending upon where you're at and if you're married, if you have kids, what your deductions are.

So it's like 30% more is a lot, but it's not that much more in comparison to how much more they're making. Yeah. 100%. If someone's making 500 times more than you. Yes. Yeah. And I mean, with regards to the 10 million tax bracket, you know, those generally aren't

people who are receiving paychecks that equal out to $10 million a year. They're coming in in various ways where they're able to find tax loopholes and they're able to afford, you know, lawyers and tax attorneys who are able to just, you know, find ways to evade taxes. Shell game it. Yeah, shell game the shit out of it. And so it's much more likely in that case, if you get to 10 million taxable income, it's much more likely that your take home is way, way, way higher. Well, Lydia, it's been a pleasure having you this has been a really thanks this is really fun yeah it's good talking to you guys likewise where can people find you and follow you sure uh i am online at hater tuesday that's my twitter handle and my instagram handle uh my website is

www.lidiapopovich.com l-y-d-i-A P-O-P-O-V-I-C-H Has all my show dates, kind of where you can see me around town. I am at the Improv most Wednesdays at Women Crush Wednesdays which is a phenomenal show of all ladies. And I will be on the road with Marcela Arguello for most of February and March

and April. Alright. Check it out. Come see us. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Ooh. I enjoyed all of the tweets from Cardi B this week and all of her responses to right-wing folks. I loved her response.

And I don't remember who she said it to, but she was like, leave me alone. I will dog walk you. Said to Tommy Lahren. That is the diss of all disses. I will dog walk you yeah right yo i'd explain that to somebody they're like well what am i doing you do not want to be dog walked is somebody telling you that they have no respect just filled me with joy absolutely filled with me joy and then i'll give a shout out to my homegirl marcella she had a hilarious tweet

and i was like with her when it was like trending that made me laugh and she tweeted a joke that's a great joke and people just jumped on it and freaked out. And I was loving watching her abortion. Yes, it was. So she basically said, you know, a friend of mine saw me holding a baby and said, oh, Marcella, you look good holding that baby. And she's like, bitch, I look good because I look good. You should see me having an abortion. Breathtaking.

It's hilarious. It's a great joke. It's funny. It's light great joke. It's funny. It's lighthearted. Yeah, and she got lit. She got lit. They jumped in. Oh, they always jump and watch her.

I love that. I loved the mentions more than the tweet. The tweet's great, but really the mentions are just gold. I love the response to it. She was like, me when a joke goes like, triggers a bunch of right-wing people

moonwalking with the shopping cart. It brings her great joy. But that was just so, so funny to me. And then the last one I will say is there's not even one particular tweet, but RIP A$AP Yams. If you're not familiar with A$AP Yams, just go on Twitter. His Twitter profile is there and he tweeted in all caps. It's all of the most ignorant things you've ever read.

But it's just sometimes what i like to do when i'm feeling down is i just scroll through yams's account and i just stop on whatever tweet and i read it it makes me happy um but there's like nothing to be learned there there's no like it's the most ignorant twitter account you've ever read but in all of the great ways that you want it to be if you enjoy rap music well they just had asap yams day yeah last week with a huge lineup yeah it was like yeah a lot of everybody loves yams Day last week with a huge lineup. Yeah. It was like, yeah, a lot of people in New York. Everybody loves Yams. He was a blessed, precious soul.

So he was a very, very funny young man. So I like reading through his stuff. So yeah, that's a fun one. If you just want to escape everything, go look at someone's Twitter feed that's funny that's not alive anymore. Yeah. You know what I mean? Miles, where can people find you? Find me.

Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. A few tweets I like. One is from Daniel Kaluya Stan at The Sundance Kiss. It says, white girls be like, OMG, stop. I hate the word moist. Then say the N word. It's just so real to me. And also, this is just from David Carl. it was uh from carl tart just a tweet

that i identify with he says golden by jill scott is such an inspirational spiritual and uplifting song but it will forever make me think of hitting the strip club before i commit crime in gta 4 but yeah i don't know what it is about living my life like it's golden so that's my tweets. Oh, also guys, if you want that Daily Zeitgeist merch, they're doing a sale on TeePublic and you should get out there doing January sale. You get 30% off. So head over to TeePublic.com

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Mid-February. Tweets I've been enjoying. Ben Rosen tweeted, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining, okay? I paid you to piss on me, not talk. Funny. Colin Crawford tweeted, was the fall of Rome also this fucking embarrassing? Which is just a good question.

Micro-militarism. Dana in Nebraska tweeted, I'm a 30-year-old federal employee who's been on furlough since 1229. I received half my paycheck on January 7th. My mortgage payment and two car payments are late. And today I was ordered back to work for no pay. If I don't show up, I will be fired.

If you support Trump, I hope you rot in hell. So, you know, there you go. And then Molly Lambert finally. Why does it always have the confidence of a mediocre white man instead of make mediocre white men feel as inferior as they actually are. Flip it. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore

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the song we ran out on what's that gonna be? I don't know if you remember in Something About Mary there was that little Greek chorus of the dude on guitar with the drummer so that is an artist named Jonathan Richman and I only got into Jonathan Richman because of Something About Mary

and my man he is a prolific creator, has a lot of great albums. But this is one I particularly like from Modern Lovers, 88. This is called I Love Hot Nights. And he's just rumpin' and a-tumpin' on that guitar. Rumpin' and a-tumpin'? Rumpin' and a-tumpin'? Yeah, rumpin' and a-tumpin'. How the hell did you learn that?

That is from a Little Richard interview about Jimi Hendrix. He said he would get to rumpin' and a tumpin' on that guitar like, whoo, whoo. Damn. Yeah, he's flying on coke in that interview, too.

Okay, yeah. I'll play the clip for you later so you can understand. But yes, this will, again, in the words of Little Richard, will make your big toe shoot up in your boot when you listen to it.

So please, enjoy this. Jonathan Richman, Modern Lovers. I love Hot Nights. All right. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast, and we'll talk to you then. Bye.

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