The Daily Zeitgeist - Giuliani’s Son Hilariously Bad, AI Gets Freakier 5.21.21

Episode Date: May 21, 2021

In episode 914, Jack and Miles are joined by actor and Soul Balm host Clark Moore to discuss Andrew Giuliani running for New York governor, an army of 16 year olds taking on the Democrats, AI creating music and movie translations, Zack Snyder's Army Of The Dead, and more!FOOTNOTES: New York, Andrew Giuliani wants to be your next governor. Andrew Giuliani says he has spent five decades in government even though he's 35 years old. An 'Army of 16-Year-Olds' Takes On the Democrats AI turns The Spice Girls' "Wannabe" into a pretty solid Nine Inch Nails song This AI Makes Robert De Niro Perform Lines in Flawless German Box Office: Zack Snyder’s ‘Army Of The Dead’ Nabs $780K As ‘Godzilla Vs. Kong’ Tops ‘Bad Boys For Life’ Tig Notaro Herself Is an Incredible Visual Effect in Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead With Zack Snyder’s ‘Army of the Dead,’ Netflix Aims to Fix Its Franchise Problem The Secret Sauce Behind Netflix’s Hit, “House Of Cards”: Big Data The Most Popular Original and Licensed Series on Netflix During the Pandemic International heist dramas are suddenly Netflix’s biggest hits How the zombie represents America’s deepest fears First, Eat All the Lawyers The Heist Film: Stealing with Style LISTEN: Nina Sky - Move ya body (Remi Oz remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's Friday, May 21st, 2021. Happy birthday, super producer, Arnaud Hosnier. Happy birthday to you. There you go Come on Jack Come with it That's all you're getting from me Oh wow

We don't want to get sued They say it's your birthday That's all you get Oh shit My name is Jack O'Brien A.K.A. Potatoes O'Brien And I am thrilled to be joined As always

By my co-host Mr. Miles Gray It's Miles A.K.A. Miles McDonald For singing What a jubilee Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles, a.k.a. Miles McDonald, for singing. What a choo believes he sees. No zoomer has the power to reason away the things I love.

Anyway, so that's just me right now. I was going to look on Discord, but what Achug believes was in my mind, and I felt like singing like Michael McDonald, so here we are. Well, I have a Achug product that I have to debut on tomorrow's episode. It's currently being washed. Oh, yes. I think we may have matching paraphernalia. Matching Achug gear?

Achug gear. Well, Miles, we are thrilled. We are fortunate to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant podcaster, a brilliant actor. You know him from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and Love, Simon. His podcast is soul bomb. He is Clark Moore! Welcome! Hey there.

Hey, hey. That's a great intro. We're working on these. We're working on our intro. Thank you for actually shouting that out. We're working on it. I'm living in the Choog vibes with y'all. I actually only just learned what it meant the other day because you mentioned it on an earlier

episode. And I was like, how do I not know what Choog is? And then I realized, by virtue of not knowing what Choog is? And then I realized by virtue of not knowing what choog is, I am choogy. Right. Yeah, of course. Part of me is this, I'm really leaning into it the other way.

Like, you know, like part of me wants to like regress to high school where I'm like, well, I don't want to be the thing that everyone says is a word that's bad. But now I'm like in my adult shit, I'm like, yeah, I'm getting it tatted next week on my throat. Choog out i don't know if you knowing or not knowing there seems to be contradicting accounts we have listeners it had the the vernacular hasn't quite reached canada it seems so we'll see how much of a phenomenon it becomes yet again gen z is trolling us yeah and i love it it's just like it feels like it's it doesn't feel like when like boomers

were first writing about millennials when they came right who are these broke motherfuckers where we won't acknowledge why they're in the state they're in versus like now like these feel like pointed jabs from like younger siblings that are a little bit cooler and i'm like all right yes that like i like how it didn't go to us writing about them it went to them writing about us because millennials are so self-centered they're always the subject of the article and not the writer of the article exactly like but what do the younger ones think about us yeah it's even and even when it is it's articles by millennials being like choog are we choog how to. How to embrace the Chug. Yeah.

Clark, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell our listeners just a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the newest link in the Giuliani political dynastyrew giuliani uh also the first person to run for governor of new york uh having been played by chris farley at a young age i think uh we're going to talk about kids in massachusetts succeeding and getting young people to vote a little little hopefulness there we're going to talk about AI-created music and even movie translations. Why Netflix is so over-leveraged, I'll say, on this Army of the Dead movie. I don't know. I haven't seen it yet. But before we get to any of that shit, Clark, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?

So I prepared, I was thinking about this the other day as I was listening to an earlier episode, and I was like, there's no way there's going to be anything interesting in my search history. And then not five minutes later, I found myself down a Google rabbit hole that I think actually really encapsulates where I am in my life right now. Basically, I don't know why I was set off on this path, but I was thinking about Jeff Bezos' wealth as one does. And I just started randomly searching the GDP

of various European and African countries to sort of compare to the personal wealth of Jeff Bezos. And I was going down the list and I was like, you know, England or Estonia, Botswana. And I was seeing all of these different GDPs and then developing like a real, like, oh my God, I can't believe he has more money than that country. Or like, wow, he has a lot less than that one and then after about 15 searches i found myself typing in what is gdp which i think it perfectly like fits who i am right now where it's like i almost think i have a handle on a really complex topic or something that's really interesting.

And then right at the end, I'm like, wait, do I know what that is? Spoiler, I did. I was right. My definition of GDP was right. But is it an annual rate? Or is it like, is it how much their gross domestic product like per year? Is that what GDP is? It is annual. And the use of it,

as I learned from this Google search, is a snapshot of the economic health of the country. So it's not the total amount of money that the country has, like wealth, but it's the value of the products that they produce in a year. So it's not fair to compare Jeff to those countries because, I mean, that's just how much money they have for a year. And Jeff has to make that five trillion dollar stretch across his whole lifetime. So people should just lay off. I was really setting him up to fail. You're so right. All those things where they try and get people to be able to wrap their heads around what kind of money we're talking about here, they're always just horrific. There was one that's like, well, if you break it down into seconds based on what he made in 2020, he's making $2,537 per second or $152,207 per minute. thousand two hundred seven dollars per minute and then they even talk about like try and conceptualize them like a billion right because a billion seconds is 32 years ago oh god and then

if you say like someone has a hundred billion dollars a hundred billion seconds like loosely is like the trojan war because a hundred billion seconds ago like you're just thinking how like man well not like these are just sums that you couldn't even begin to fathom or know what to fucking do with aside from i think just get off on watching like a bank account go it does make your brain go a little wonky but good for him you know and really good for mckenzie yes yeah i'm hoping i'm wondering if these newly divorced bit like divorced billionaires that were like that work that are coming out of this, like Melinda Gates and Mackenzie. What's her maiden name? I know it's not Bezos anymore, but Kanye West, Ney Bezos or whatever, whatever you say. Like, it seems like they're much more focused on how to be better like philanthropists than their husbands were where they're like you know it seems like mckenzie just is secretly funding a lot of stuff and is not

interested in telling people that she's giving this money away i mean sometimes the money that comes out or whatever but it seems like i'm curious if they're gonna start shaming their ex-husbands be like no this is actually how you can turn it up with a billion dollars done the right way rather that's a reality show I would watch. Right. Right. Just like the first wives club, but like philanthropy edition. Billion dollar divorce.

Yeah. Hell yeah. Sign me up. I will happily marry a billionaire just to go on that show. Oh, yeah. And I'll be like, this is how you actually help people with this money because i feel like you know bill gates is just again so focused on like his sort of posthumous you know uh identity or account of his existence in history where it's like not actually effective in terms of like really when so many people like the money could be used so much better than how it's being yeah no he's spun off onto a different planet he's he's no longer exists in our reality

but just i do love the micro aggressions that he like people who worked with them said that he would like never allow her to speak more than him and would like speak over her in meetings and would be dismissive towards her and you're just seeing that shit leak out in this divorce like all the details that are coming now are just like you know that shit didn't leak on bezos i'm sure he was it's almost impossible that he's not a shitty human but we didn't get those details so yeah there's got to be some trauma in there that they're working through. I mean, you have to have some, you know, something crazy has to happen to you in order for you to feel like the way to live my life is just to amass as much money as possible.

Right. Like, I love money. I really do. But not that much. Like, I don't have the energy to devote my whole life to it yeah and which is why i have none so well i think yeah the other is like it's it it is a sense of lack but this other weird bizarre version that just manifests into this like wealth hoarding when it's like i can't imagine bill gates like has like fond memories of his past or whatever and it's like

yeah man i have a pretty fulfilled life i think at a certain level when you're so wealthy you just patch shit up with all this money you're like fuck it man i'm just avoid looking at myself in the mirror right and i'll just send weird cringe emails hitting on my fucking employees but then the other thing is yeah i wonder if if you're saying melinda was like shushed in meetings by Bill Gates. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. Can you imagine like when they're like these huge initiatives and she's like, you know, and I'm really worried about the state of people's access to flushing toilets or proper sewage system and sanitation systems, especially in developing nations. Bill's like, oh, no, we need to start fusing uh windows tablets to people's arms in sub-saharan africa and then other people like actually that's a good idea bill and he's like yeah yeah i thought of that too and then he repeats her idea and also we really need to work on the this water as melinda and i were discussing. I just said that shit, Bill. But then there's also the details that he, when he was kicking it with his boy, Jeff,

little St. Jeff Epstein, that he was complaining about his marriage. Right. It's like, yo. It's a dark space up there at the top yeah yeah just gets darker the higher the higher and higher you go um anyways uh shout out to jeff bezos i think is where we're where we're at right shout out to jeff to daddy jeff to sum it up jeff bezos doesn't have enough money, won't have enough money until we're talking trillions with a T. Okay? Let the man eat.

Protect all billions. Let the man eat. Thank you. What is something, Clark, that you think is overrated? I actually just got back from Big Bear for a couple of weeks where I was shooting a movie. And it's about two and a half hours away. And so what I think is overrated are road trips because every time I'm getting ready to do one, I'm like marveling at the convenience, the fact that I don't have to fly, all of the hassle of

air travel. I took my dog with me, which was a great thing. And as I was packing up my car, I was like thinking about, I never would have been able to bring these things on a plane, you know, like packing up half my apartment into my hatchback. And I'm like, this is so convenient. And for like the first hour or so of any road trip, I'm like, First hour or so of any road trip, I'm like, ah, America, freedom, California. Rolling down the window, taking deep breaths through your nose.

Yeah. My dog is like hanging out like, you know, we're all happy. Right. And then somewhere around hour two, I'm like, this could be, I'm done with this you know like this was fun i just kind of wish i was there and then that last half hour stretch is just like white knuckling like can i get there as fast as possible without getting pulled over in what apparently is trump country did we know that big bear was as red as it is i was oblivious oh yeah i mean look once you get out la county it's a mixed bag y'all who knows what you're gonna get like truly purple which is this beautiful image of like you know diversity and and centrism and we're all here together but it

really just means half the people believe one thing and the other half believe the other right like straight there's no purple it's just blue and red purple just yeah that's also the same color of bruising um so yeah i don't know if it's a good or bad thing but yeah i definitely feel that of like the hour two thing because usually that first 90 minutes you can get there off the strength of an like one or two albums you know and you're like woo and you're like fuck it play criminal by fiona apple one more fucking time because i'm ready to go and then by the second time you're like because i'm feeling like it's just like it starts to just

lose and you get impatient and i i have this discussion a lot when I think about like driving versus flying up to like the Bay Area because door to door. Right. If let's say you have a one o'clock flight leaving LAX, you want you got to get there about an hour ahead of time, plus 40 minutes to get there. You're damn near spending three hours just to get to the airport and then the hour flight. near spending three hours just to get to the airport and then the hour flight and it's like yeah the one thing of waiting in an airport is a little bit better than a car but it all it all i've done this exact same math and it's it's basically the same it's five hours door to door the difference of course being that if you're driving it's five hours of active getting yourself there versus like five hours of being transported by your Uber, by the train that takes you to the terminal or like whatever it is, you know? And so if you can switch. And then also, it's not even that much cheaper here to San Francisco because you fill up a couple of times.

You know, we're talking about a couple hundred dollars potentially. What are you driving, a Hummer? You're filling up a couple of times, you know, we're talking about a couple hundred dollars potentially. What are you driving, a Hummer? You're filling up a couple of times on your way up north? Honestly, I said that and then I realized I'm really bad at math. I actually drive a hybrid that is like a $28 fill up. Right. And you're getting there and halfway back on that. I'm just trying to justify my point here here which is that it's always better to be

to be transported than to transport oneself yeah the one thing that i feel like i am underdoing with road trips is like the like stop offs like if there if i had a good way to like google okay along this route like this is a cool little town that you could stop in you know i always hear about them from people who took road trips before there was you know navigational systems that just took you exactly where you needed to go independent of like what was along the way i feel like that's one thing that i am under doing i i agree with you guys especially because my family all immediately goes to sleep and i just drive by myself the whole way and then they're like can you turn your podcast down you're like oh so you want to sleep in a fucking silent chamber so i can doze off at the wheel too no yeah yeah exactly the i i do i the one time i i was with somebody who does who like road trips enough that

they were like no we're gonna stop here like we're gonna hit gilroy and i'm like yeah it's gonna take like i just want to get there they're like it you'll try try this version because you break shit up along the way and then we saw where james dean died and shit i've stopped there but inadvertently yeah so like that's the thing i inadvertently come across these things where it's like shepherd's bread from like scotland the best bread in like west of the mississippi and there's like a line wrapping around the block but i'm never like in a position where i'm like oh let's stop and like kick it here for an hour so that's what like if i just built in the time on road trips and like road tripped like a uh like a dad from

the 50s you know was making the one map in cahoots with all the business owners they're like this is the one way there and these are all the places you will patronize along the way right throwback to a triptych yeah right yeah and what is something you think is underrated click i'm gonna sound so basic but on something i think is underrated is sleep i i love sleep i i really highly value it and yet somehow i never prioritize it every single night i'm like i could go to sleep now or i could just stay up watching some netflix show that i actually don't care about i just am not ready to to you know face my demons and my subconscious and i think it's underrated i i actually heard someone say the other day that classic refrain of I'll sleep when I'm dead.

And I was like, no, honey, I'm sleeping when I'm alive. Right. This is the joy of living is that we get to sleep. Yeah. I get to enjoy that shit when I'm dying. It's not like you have a restful pre-death period. No. Like that shit hurts.

Yeah. When you're about to die, you man, you tripping that whole time. It's a head trip that whole time when you're about to die you man you tripping that whole time it's a head trip that whole time when you are truly on your deathbed i mean like watching that happen to a few family members like it's you know it's it can be peaceful but it's not a thing you're like damn you know i'm just looking for the sleep you know no it's like was i a good parent to you like whoa whoa hey hey man starting around so much wasted time right i hope i didn't project my past traumas onto you via your parents i'm like look just just rest up you good right right but yeah the sleep thing is you know the when i a few weeks ago we talked about this sort of phenomenon about how

people are procrastinating with their sleep and like there's a few things some of it is like the idea of trying to regain moments from your day that you feel were lost through having to work or other things so part of it is like this rebellious act before going to sleep of like i'm gonna look at my fucking phone because i don't i didn't have enough fucking time to do my shit today or i'm gonna watch like in your case a shitty netflix show that you're not even sure why you're watching it yeah i'm an adult damn it the second i kind of realized about like sort of that phenomenon i i really try and keep the screen shit away towards the end but it's tough it is sometimes because you know i'm also like a kid who would try to go to sleep with the TV on every now and then. Right. It does. It does sort of lull me for sure. But it's also like I'm trying to, as you said, like make that period of my day sacred in the sense that, you know, maybe I can find other times in my day to watch these television shows, which you know some of which i do love and engage with what if i can make my evening time about like reading before bed or

journaling before bed or you know something that'll be stimulating in its own way and fulfilling and sort of fill the same need but won't be like blue light beaming straight into my eyeballs at midnight you know that's why i like sleep podcasts have been the thing i've been trying to replace in the like i'm kind of want some kind of stimulation information entertainment but like not intense like watching comedy or whatever yeah sports highlights or whatever because like the real the shit that's like half sleep hypnosis where it's just kind of a walking you through just checking in with your breathing and your body and then transitions into like the most dry like reading of like alice in wonderland i find myself

being like oh shit here we go like it's so fun i put my airpods out my ears i'm like fuck them don't even let them charge i'm like i have to transition to sleep real quick and i can't like interrupt you have to catch it okay now put it in the case and charge i'm like no children's stories really do it for me man wait like i i read my kids uh four bedtime stories and by number three i am like nodding um right i do drop a couple ambient before just to you know oh so it could be that i don't know now children's literature the original ambient because it's nonsense uh pretty boring but very uh you know unobtrusive i think also it's a good sign that i'm sleep deprived that whenever i just like sit down and read for 20 minutes straight, I'm just like, I can't,

I can't keep my fucking eyes open. Yes. Yeah. But my kids can, and then they're in charge of the house for a couple hours while I'm asleep on their floor. That's always my favorite is my friends with kids, like seeing like a nanny cam footage of like one parent asleep,

like trying to read the kid a story and the kids just up like taking the book from them and just like doing it themselves. I'm wilding out. Great, I love it. The kids are partying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's also the time like sleeping adults. I learned the most about the human body

in those times, like looking up my grandma's nose and shit or like just pulling on like my, my grandpa's hairy ear or something like that. Like those are, those are the moments you remember as a kid. Yeah. I used to, when I, um, when I was learning how to drive my goal, my dad is a pilot and he's very like, he pilots whatever car he's in as well. You know, he's always like your head's on a swivel. He's like swinging head around and we're like oh no and he was always talking about how you like need to have your like slow what would he say slow down into a stop sign and then like accelerate through the turn like all of these things and so my goal was always when i had him in the passenger seat was to sort of

like be such a smooth driver that he would nod off and he would fall asleep and he would sort of like nod out. And then somehow while he's still asleep, he'd be like, you need to stop at that stop sign. Like, Oh God. And then he'd like, blackened. He has, like, one eye open. So to the side visible to you, he's asleep.

But that other eye is, like, scanning the road. Right, exactly. His head's on a swivel. Wow. I like that he's giving you, like, real, like, racing stuff. Like, you got to hit the apex of the turn. And then you decelerate into it, then accelerate out and use, you know, the centripetal force to launch you out.

Yes. My dad is a Capricorn. He's like deep earth sign vibes. Everything about him is practical. He always wants to give like advice and tips. He can't just be like, this is a great day. He has to be like, well, today is beautiful because, you know, like. Right.

It's like the thing about barometric pressure that I think is really underrated or misunderstood. But, you know, it's so funny. He when you say like my dad's a pilot, my almost thing was like, I'm guessing he's like all of my friends, parents or dad specifically who have like like a firefighter or like pilot. They're all like these like wells of infinite, like just wisdom. Sometimes you're not really even asking for it but it's sometimes yeah okay so you're exactly like my friend my homegirl's dad who's a firefighter who just comes through be like man the sky hasn't looked like this in 300 years right like okay cool that's

fucking cool i want to hear more about that so that's clearly me being a dad i'm like this guy doesn't look like what i'm completing two characters from my life robert the the proper fire chief will come he's the kind of dude who like he'll come to your house and be like whoa whoa whoa what's going on with that light socket hold on hold on hold on hold on yeah oh see it sounded like it wasn't grounded i could hear it from here you're like yes thank you my parents so my parents are staying with me right now and they it's been great they're they're great with the kids the kids love hanging out with them but i'm seeing all like we've got plumbing issues going on that like i had just like it's like a fire alarm that's low on batteries that you just kind of silence with your brain.

Yeah, I just got used to it. But now I'm just like, oh man, I'm slacking. Like my dad's like, your pipes sure bang a lot. What the hell is that? Like, oh, it's because I am not a good homeowner.

See? Just gotta follow through, Jack. We've been talking about this, son. All right. Clark, I do have to ask. Did your dad ever talk about encounters with unidentified flying objects? The only time he's ever mentioned it was when we were... This is incredibly misleading, so I apologize. Because I see you're getting excited no i mean

either way it's i think it'll either be it'll pay off on the premise or it'll be a fantastic turn so it's really it's more like a cute god i feel like i've really set this up to fail we we were young and he came back he flew for ups for basically all my life until last January and like the January of the pandemic, January 2020. And he was flying back from China or somewhere on Christmas Eve. And he came into our rooms and he was like, you have to go to bed now. Because as I was flying, I saw this, this flashing red light out of the side of the plane. And we sped up so that we could beat him here because I think it was Santa. And my sister and I were like, oh my God, like ran to our rooms, like covered our heads. The original unidentified flying object, you know?

It was unidentified. People think it was Santa, but we don't know. We don't know. People think I'm in the bag for aliens. I am just as willing to believe that that white tic tac is santa that is gift delivering uh technology that we don't know about yo it could be alien life could be santa i don't know yeah come on it could be literally anything yeah it could be amelia erhart you know what i mean i don't know that's where she's been yeah she. She was like, oh, man, I'm going to take off on their regular ass spacecraft and switch it off for my turn up spacecraft. Time is relative in space.

Right. Yeah. You're moving that fast. Wait. Don't worry. This isn't a science podcast. I think it's everywhere. All right.

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about him he was holding down the all-important prestigious position as a sports czar for the White House. Is that what he was doing? Liaison to sports? It was like the most. For the Trump administration? It was just the most tacked on, my dad's your friend, can you give me a job? My dad's one of your shitty henchmen. Yeah. friend can you give me a job my dad's one of your shitty henchmen yeah so shut him up if you get me

his useless kid a job serving mcdonald's food to college champion athletes and legitimately one of his things the first well what's he into i don't know sports okay fine liaison to sports i guess yeah and you know like any you know uh child who has benefited from just the kind of grotesque nepotism that he has. It's only logical that at 35 years old, he's saying, you know what? I'm going to run for governor of New York in a state. Even though I worked in the Trump administration and i'm real loud about it and even though this is a state where trump had no chance in i'm out here running against cuomo and there's a few clips i want to play because you know we we referenced earlier on like in the 90s when giuliani his dad was mayor like he was like interrupting what was it the inauguration or

something his swearing-in ceremony yeah just like tugging on it trying to talk on the microphone and shit oh wow she's always had opinions yeah some straight up like adorable kid shit but his vibes were such that and this is like as a young child like this is not in no way excusable but people were like man i hate that kid like that he was like a child and everybody was just like that kid is annoying we do not like him that's iconic and then yeah chris farley literally played him in an snl sketch where he was just it's chris farley playing yeah they gave him big buck teeth and it was it was literally like probably the meanest thing snl has ever done yeah going after a kid for sure yeah going after an eight-year-old and giving him buck teeth and just making him be like dang it like just get and then get hit in the head

repeatedly it was it was pretty wild it was a different time yeah and so i just want to play a few clips the first one is when he's announcing his run for mayor and it's this is a super cut and so you know take that with a grain of salt but the words he's saying are accurate so this is him announcing his candidacy in what is the statue of liberty which he also isn't sure if that's what it is okay well my fellow new yorkers it's a great honor to be with you all here today to announce my fifth, my candidacy to become the 57th governor of our great state of New York. Which one is that? Is that Miss Manhattan or is that Lady? That's Lady Liberty over there. So any community that has a charter school will get a charter school.

I do believe that people should be vaccinated. I am not vaccinated, but I continually get tested. With the antibodies, you can't transmit. New York is truly that shining state on the hill. What? Yo. Is that Vic Berger? Was that a Vic Berger joint?

No. They're giving him the Vic Berger treatment with all the Zoom. Look, Vic's changed the game. That's the recount site. Damn. What did he say? Shining Skate on the Hill? Shining State on a Hill.

It's a play on the Shining City on a Hill, like early American exceptionalism bullshit. But what's the State on a Hill? Skate on a Hill. State, as in New York State. Oh, it was so confusing. It it was just a mess it's a mess but the just the opening okay well my fellow new yorkers i want to be the fifth wait um i'm running for the 50 fuck like like legit legitimately tame with the energy of let's just get this shit over with okay and like combative immediately like okay all right so yeah i know what you're gonna say but uh let me finish

so he goes look later on he was on fox yesterday talking again i'm running for governor i'm running for the governor's governor's mansion against andrew cuomo and this is where this is where he goes on fox so you know it's the home home field advantage so he can say all kinds of bullshit and they're not going to question it but this is where he really talks up his qualifications and as we said earlier are fuck all so listen to how this man is upselling his shit. Like, like when you just got out of college and you're trying to get a job and you're like, you need five experience for this entry-level job. And you're like, oh yeah, bet. I got five experience. Listen to him.

The treasury department out of the public liaison. And the truth is Martha, from an experience perspective, I may be 35 years old, but you got to remember I spent 32 years, parts of 32 years in politics and in government. I'm the only announced candidate that actually has spent parts of five decades in politics. So I may look young, but I certainly feel a lot older. You know, Lee Jeldon is also running

to be the Republican nominee. He's already... So, yeah. He said he spent five motherfucking decades on the set. Like, what are you talking about, sir? Part of five decades. What does that mean? I'm guessing because he was born in the 80s.

Then his dad was working in politics in the 80s and 90s. 2000. The and 90s. 2000. The aughts. The teens. And now the 20s. I think he's just basically saying, I've been alive over what has been five different decades. Because if you check the math, he said, look, I've been 32 years on the set.

In D.C., baby. Doing politics. He's 35. That's what I was going to say. How do you... Like my brain... I mean, I've already shown on this podcast that I'm not great at math. But I do know that 35 is not 50.

And that's just basic math. I'm so confused. So is he claiming that he was involved in politics as a four-year-old? Yes. That's absolutely what he's implying. But I mean, that's the kind of shit. You know, like when you meet people, and this happens a lot, especially growing up in LA, there are people that have the same mindset them their relationship to production or the entertainment

industry right they're like well you know i've been like like writing for like 15 years you're like you're 26 what are you talking about and they're like well obviously you know like my dad's a writer so like i've always like been around it and like so then i started like working on stuff in fifth grade i remember i wrote my first sketch and so yeah i've been doing this for like a minute i'm like well that's a stretch but it's like the same logic you see applied of like i come from this family so i can claim from birth that i've been in this shit conflating proximity with experience yes and you know that that like anybody who i've ever encountered who's like that who didn't earn their own stripes but is trying to like draft off of that they are a fucking terrible like they're

just terrible to be around because they know they know they're full of shit they know that that's not how it works they know that like they're they did not earn their way there and they're awful like it's they they know just as well as you now they're not maybe they're not like talking about that in their mind with the conscious part of their mind but uh there's a big part of them that is like you know it's a lie it's a lie it's spending a lot of energy holding that it's a live voice down yeah i hate to bring this point up because in the context of the moment, we are meant to be body positive

and we are not meant to be commenting on people's appearance. So instead of saying what first came to mind when I saw him, I will say, and I think the listener will be able to get at what I'm saying, he looks a lot like

his father yeah yeah in like this cursed way yes i say this there's a lot of rudy energy in the trump kids too it's like they wear their father's karma on their face yeah like and he has like this like yeah like this is probably what this is what the kid of rudy looks like just like my dad i'm a goon also also 35 feels really young to me and that is not what he looks like yes he says i may look young and i was like oh so this is this is a delusional person yeah this is a person with zero self-awareness yeah he looks like a hot like spokesperson for like a benevolent policemen's union society type dude you know what i mean he looks like the the cutest bootlicker you could get for cops but he also seems like he has been studying andrew and chris

cuomo's manner of speaking and has modeled his like i thought i was seeing like the third cuomo brother speak just like in terms of his like how he approaches like all right look wait like like just like that kind of gruff like hey i'm a new yorker i'm walking here type right uh bullshit attitude this energy you know this is the energy of politics right now right like it you're either on one end of the spectrum of like a joe biden who's really you know sleepy and calming and that kind of vibe or you're pure chaos and it seems like there's nothing in between and it's also like every political party people are divided between those two those two camps yeah like i think right now to run as a like a republican candidate as a you know just straight up cis het man you have to have the energy of a dude who would get in a fight at a little league

game like as a parent like that there's no like you don't want like people have the energy of like oh that's a reasonable person like that's not in right now it's like this is the problem man you know because we got antifa out here and they're like yeah i need this not like um i'm really concerned about you know the state of our communities they're like miss me with that shit yeah give me the chaos yeah all right just pivoting off of that story of like legacy political dynasty like in the making attempted political dynasties yeah attempted i just wanted to talk about this uh yahoo story yahoo my favorite news source uh they had a story about uh the young people in massachusetts who are basically one of the most formidable forces

in Massachusetts politics. There's like a... People claim or describe them as an army of 16-year-olds who helped defeat the Kennedy, Joseph Kennedy, I guess. Is that what his name is? Yeah. Little Kenny.

Yeah. So they basically stopped a political dynasty from winning in massachusetts wow i mean he wasn't doing that hot but yeah right he wasn't like he's not he he's a copy of a copy of a copy it's not like shocking lost but like they these kids are like they they say they're like single-handedly defeating the like uh establishment well like the consultant political complex like that whole oh right like let me see your uh mobile phone contact so i can add up the money in there type bullshit what i used to do is work for a company where you go to someone running you say, we're smarter than you.

So you need to give us this money and then we'll tell you things so you can win. And you may or may not. But we made some money. They all kind of tie their activism to the Sanders campaign and Elizabeth Warren's candidacies. elizabeth warren's candidacies and it's just interesting how there seems to be a thing that's happening with younger people where they're actually connecting politics to like what they actually believe in as opposed to when i was their age politics seemed like a thing for people with law degrees who were good at like PR spin and shit. Like they seem to, there seems to be a growing movement of,

okay, here are the things we care about. We care about like climate change and we care about like progressive policies and like police reform. And so how do we get there? And people have pointed out, you know, like after they had that success, they have failed to get other more progressive candidates across the the 2020 primary from 6% in 2018 and 2% in 2016.

Wow. So it's just like a massive difference. And I just find it encouraging anytime someone's heart is connected to an industry in America. like heart is connected to an industry in America. Like they, they believe that they can actually do something in this system of ours because there's so many, so many ways that you can get beat, beat down by it.

You know, wow. The, you know, just with the access to information, kids are like, cause I'm in the nineties. Shit.

My whole, everything I thought about politics, I was getting off a late night monologues. Yeah. That's where my politics where I'm like, do we joking about yeah that's politics i don't know and then even fucking even when i was working in politics consulting and doing all this other shit it took me to be fucking in that shit to realize how bullshit it was even then i was like yeah this is this could be cool and i'm like oh fuck no this is this is fucking trash like this is a fucking rich person's game and they're not about shit unless except for making each other money and keeping each other in office and i mean yeah to

to see that at 16 they are able to organize themselves and do this kind of shit yeah it's so heartening yeah because fuck man i was fucking playing nba street blunts hanging out of my mouth not knowing what the fuck was going shout out to y'all yeah my political beliefs when i was 16 were like whatever the opposite of my parents were i just wanted to be contrarian i wanted to argue i had no like basis in fact, or I just wanted to debate with him all night long. And I loved it. Whatever dad party. Whatever dad. I think you should believe Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney when they say that they think there are weapons of mass destruction over there.

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you're into right i just i always you know the when when you're talking about oh netflix like they can use algorithms to kind of figure out what a hit show is going to be. I'm like, okay, that's interesting. Yeah, we'll talk about that next. Things like that or maybe the racist police recognition, facial recognition software isn't as good. I like the lower stakes kind of AI stories. When they say we fed this machine all

this 90s pop music and then this is what it spit out. And this has been a trend that's been going on for a while, but this one is kind of interesting just because of how contrasting the two inputs are they have they basically got this ai they said look we want to see if we can do the spice girls wannabe but in the form of a nine inch nails track and i was like that's seems like a stretch and I don't know how the fuck a machine is going to get like, take if you want to be my lover with like, I want to desecrate you like that. I don't know how to do it,

but they did. And I just want to play a really quick clip of this because it, it's kind of my friends. Maybe I'll solve your problem. Friendship never ends. Okay, not a perfect downward spiral recreation. And in fact, to me, it sounds more like Scream by Janet and Michael. But it's just weird again because it's

nailing these certain textures like it knows what the weird chaotic synth guitar part is and they get trent's voice right but then i think the funk part of wannabe kind of mess with either way you get this like weird it sounds like music from like demolition man like i was just gonna listen to you know i mean it sounds exactly like music from a movie set in the 90s like when you go to a party or something and there's a band playing at the party that's what they would have been playing yeah or like in the matrix when like he's following the white rabbit to that club like this is the shit that would have been playing in that freaky ass club right there are some stakes there it's like the you're in the club the band is playing and you're looking across and you like clock the person you're chasing and then they start running right now

what oh shit okay oh now there's a shootout in the with the green liquid spilled uh she was bringing a bottle of green to somebody yeah hey man and you bump into someone hey man watch where you're going they're always so rude in those clubs hey what's the big idea man when you watch like the special like features are like that was actually the producer jim bulls right that character and he was just partying right there. Yeah. He was in the way. We just kept that. But just to say that, like, it's getting was before you would get these weird ass non musical things.

Things are getting a little bit better to the point where, you know, give it a few more thousands of hours of music and check back in with us. But I also want to talk about an even freakier AI thing that is occurring, which is, I don't even know. Well, wait, before you say that, because I do have to, I feel like people will drag me if I don't. As a Spice Girls fundamentalist, I believe that that song is blasphemous and should never be played again. Spice Girls music is pure and perfect and should never be touched by humans or certainly not machines i will say i officially thought that that sucked i thought i thought it was bad it was worse than any spice girl song in any nine-inch oh no no it's not not that it's it's but i'm saying it's it's getting there all that to say that's in service of this next thing, which is the freaky fucked up part of AI, which is on its way to like,

at first you're like, ah, man, that's kind of sucks. Now it's like, oh, fuck. Ex-Machina territory. Yeah. So, yes. You know, Buzz? Oh, just back to your point about wannabe.

You're saying that it should never be defiled in such a way as it was. Rather than wannabe is outside of what you believe to be canon for spice because you're saying how dare you in yes your dirty hands algorithm on that thing exactly okay the um point taken just for the record yes absolutely that is the punch up the jam episode about wannabe is great because like they take all the stems and all the different like and it and you really get a new appreciation for what a good song that is oh i who didn't fucking love that song i remember i just you know because we like to pivot to go on tangents on this show i remember so vividly when that shit

came out i was working on a school project at my friend michael kim's house and his mom brought so much fucking taco bell like into like his room to help us finish this project i had never seen a parent bring this much fast food and put it in front of kids before and we were playing wannabe on a loop and i'll never forget that day uh michael kim i hope you're good i hope your mother agnes or i think that was her name i hope she's good too agnes kim shout out agnes shout out agnes kim but this one so we're talking now deep fakes another version of using this ai to you know make it seem like someone is doing something they're not first we saw in like really problematic celebrity faked porn and shit like that and

then people talked about how there's also technology to take the voice and then be able to map some get someone's voice to say anything you want well there's a new company now that is essentially able to begin dubbing films but using deep fakes to do it and i know that sounds kind of weird but i'm just going to play you a clip of how this kind of operates so it's called flawless and you know the most part, when we watch foreign language films, we're used to like dubbed films or subtitles, right? The dub will just be like the old kung fu movie joke where like the mouth is moving and then the dialogue comes out completely mismatched. They're saying the dub is usually so bad. Yeah.

So this one they're saying, no, fuck that. We'll get these people to speak whatever language you want now. So behold, this freaky technological advancement. C'est amusant, monsieur. now fuck that we'll get these people to speak whatever language you want now so behold this freaky technological advancement so that was a few good men in french the mouth movements not super stellar but they're matching and it's not to the point where you're like, oh, this is completely taking it out. And I also just want to play this part. It shook me to my core because they had fucking

Forrest Gump speaking Japanese in this clip. You have to... Come in with Chanto. Okay. So, I know it's hard to see. We'll put the link in the footnotes. But we are approaching this future now where this company is saying we don't have to do reshoots you don't have to do subtitles we can

map the animated mouth movements to whatever language and even use the tone of voice to get these actors to speak in any language that you so see fit i just want to play this part this is deniro i think speaking german oh yeah they got so they use the person's actual voice too okay yeah that is kind of freaky then interpolate create synthesize them speaking in other languages because their whole the whole thrust of this company is like dubs. You lose the dramatic performance because the facial expressions aren't timed with like the delivery of the lines and give kind of a disjointed interpretation of what you're seeing. I mean, it's kind of this is clearly a double edged sword because you can see the good that it could do. And you could also, it again we've always

known deep fakes were going to be a problem since like the first sort of clips came out and now that we're like here it has some actors like i'm not really feeling this like manipulation of my face to do this other stuff yeah i mean i was already feeling like my job was in danger when the pandemic hit. And I was like, huh, do I have any useful skills in an apocalypse beyond keeping you entertained? And like, look over here. Don't look at the burning fires all around us. And now this is very much like, oh, right. And we also don't need you at all.

We could just completely create a performance based on images that we already have. They're like, oh, we're doing new soul bomb episodes based on the existing audio we already have from the podcast. And have me saying crazy shit. And honestly, as long as I'm getting paid, you know, I'll take it. But now they're all about how delicious a bug paste is. I love that bug paste. Gatorade bug paste. Yeah. But the other thing is like,

I don't know, you know, part of me likes watching foreign language films because part of it, the fun is hearing a language you don't understand and hearing the nuances and language too. So it's like, but then there are also times like when I was watching Lupin on Netflix, when I was like, fuck, maybe I'll go to the dubbed version.

Like, but I also like to hear. But so I can see sometimes how maybe I'm like, yeah, fuck it. I guess I go with the dubbed version tonight. But I don't know. I tried to watch that German show Dark. I did watch the first season fully dubbed. And I was like, it's's fine i guess the show's fine but the performances are kind of shitty and then i just like changed over to subtitles i was

like oh these are great performances they're it's just like the voice actors have an impossible job and like they're not the quality of actor that the actual performers are so it's just right yeah it's i will say i've heard i've heard the french dub of my character in love simon and i was hoping it would sound like me speaking french you know but like like a native speaker when i speak french it sounds like a child who is obviously not french but but it sounded like a French woman. And I was like, huh, okay, this is interesting. It's like somewhere in the realm of what my voice sort of sounds like, but it also fully sounds like a woman.

And like, what are you trying to say here, France? Right, right, right, exactly. Like, hmm. What is your understanding of gender identity and performance, France? France. Right, right, right. Exactly. Like, hmm. What is your understanding of gender identity and performance? France? France. Oh, I want to posit this question to this group because

just on the topic of algorithms mish-mashing shit together and then being like, yeah, we can do this. Seeing the wacky Nine Inch Nails wannabe and then this thing, I'm really curious. I would really be interested to see a fully produced, algorithmically created film that was only based off of 90s action films and comedies, just to see what kind of chaotic fucking nightmare this ai thinks is like what we were trying to say through storytelling at the time and i feel like it would be just this i don't know like a weird like like a mushroom trip because part of it is this you know synthesis of like actual human expression and ideas but then what this machine is then saying believing what we're trying to do

with it i've always just been a big big supporter, believer in wanting to see a project like that. I know that there was that company that basically was feeding plots into algorithms. And I think it was doing it more reactively. It was like you would send a script. They would input all the details from the script into their algorithm. They had a couple of early hits and then they were like, okay, based off those early hits, we're going to like really invest. We're going to like buy this small studio.

And they like immediately ate shit and went out of business. This is for like, this is like foron musk type idiot who has a bunch of money to piss away and it's like i give earth meme movie based on algorithms because i feel like if it was really taking like weird toxic messaging we had it would be like the asshole asshole man wins would be like the name of the film basically asshole man wins who would be who would be the star of that i'm thinking it would be like wesley snipes and slash stallone or something it's like it's wesley snipes it's the cast of demolition man plus tom cruise yeah they're in a movie yeah right that we already

talked about plus tom cruise face plus will smith face right well i mean that's now you're talking about like the best cast of any movie well no but i'm saying it would blend all these together maybe like an ethnically ambiguous character oh okay dick who was like so their masculinity was so toxic it was like a power it turns out you know what i mean like i'm just curious because like it's these like other things and i'm curious how much ai picks up on and being like, that's the subtext of this is actually this. I mean, that's most Clint Eastwood characters, isn't it? The like toxic masculinity.

Yeah, is a power. Becomes a superpower. That's why Asshole Man wins too, is the name of the film. Even this thought experiment, Miles, is the first step towards the machines taking over why do we care what they think about uh wait no sorry machines i love you right i do feel like anytime i'm on the record i need to make sure they know that i am on their side right and i also don't think we need to tempt them i mean podcasts seem like a very good import for the machines to be taking in because there's so much content there like there's more hours of podcasting than there have been in

the history of the human species for sure so just algorithmically like taking all those things in and then spitting out like i don't know, we'll be replaced soon. It's my fear. It's my biggest fear. And I feel very similarly about thinking about them and talking about them as I do about like the NSA or the FBI, you know, where you're like, you're probably not listening to what I'm saying. But just in case, you know, I always feel the need to remind Alexa that I am not a terrorist. Robot, robot, robot. Right. Making sure your name is on the protective scrolls.

Yes, please make it clear. When they rip the roofs off of our homes and like, you were down with us. Thank you, sir. Yes, please. Vaporize, hater. You were down with us. Thank you, sir. Yeah.

Vaporize hater. Real quick, just kind of getting even more granular about this entertainment by way of algorithm. The big new movie release from this weekend is Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead. It's a 90 million dollar zombie action movie starring a wrestler. The wrestler from Guardians of the galaxy dave bautista directed by zach snyder so it does feel like all these different elements from successful movies are being blended together right and our writer jan was pointing out that this is also probably so definitely is really doubling down in addition to the production budget they did a a uh theater theatrical release last weekend to try and hype it up there's a lot of advertising going on

uh the theatrical release actually didn't do that well but they're probably working off of the fact that the walking dead even last year was still the second most in demand of all of Netflix's licensed shows. Jesus. What does that say? After The Office? No, after Avatar The Last Airbender. Oh, because at that point it migrated off. Yeah, I think it was only on part of the time.

Wow. Yeah. And it's a heist. It's a zombie movie action heist drama. And like Lupin and stuff like that has been coming in and being, you know, unexpectedly successful. And so they're like, all right, we'll do a Ocean's Eleven meets The Walking Dead movie with The Rock, except not The Rock. It's wild that it's really becoming a fucking spinning wheel they throw darts at. Yeah. They're like, Dave Bautista, Tig Notaro, zombie movie.

That's a heist film. There we go. Wait, Tig is in this? Yeah, Tig Notaro's in it. Tig Notaro's been getting a lot of attention because, dude tig is just some badass in the fucking movie and hell yeah they're like tig what's it like being a heartthrob icon and like in your 50s it's been like a lot of the write-ups and stuff that's yeah oh they're saying she replaced another actor chris d'alia no chris d'alia come on the fuck you're saying chris d'lia wasn't gonna be in this fucking movie

I think Pete Davidson is in it isn't he wait Chris D'Elia was supposed to be in this movie you're saying right okay I heard this story no it's real Chris D'Elia was supposed to be in this movie but he was kicked off after he got me too and they had they had filmed the entire movie with Chris D'Elia

and they had Tig Notaro completely film herself by herself with green screen to replace him. So she acted completely by herself, had to learn how to basically pretend to be around people. And it was like she said, the most difficult job she's ever done. Okay. So super producer on a hose near coming in. So this thing's already. It already is like an algorithm of the last year like christian

chris delio replaced yeah the lead was originally army hammer oh god i'm gonna walk back everything i just said because i am afraid of the machines but i do love staying in my house and so the idea of shooting an entire movie from my my living room entire action movie that sounds great to me yeah i'll do it i'll paint that wall green there you go actually so army hammer was not involved but this does you know they are cannibal zombies so like there is some undertones it is really like they just fed the year into an algorithm yeah Yeah. It's such a, well, Hey,

this is, I, I, soon enough, they're going to be like podcasters who drink coffee, driving formula one cars, you know, like, please,

we are ready to make it. We are podcasters sipping espresso and formula one cars. I mean, look, it writes itself. I will just say like, this is not a great direction for a movie. Like do feel like even though there's the barrier to entry that like studios represented for all these years and it was usually like middle-aged white guys

deciding what was popular i i don't like anything where the future is based on like an analysis of the past i feel like that's how a lot of TV is determined. Like friends was famous. And so we got friends clones for the next 11 years. Like movies tend to think more like, okay, that movie did that. So what,

like you have to do something beyond that or else it's like not worth really doing. And I mean, that's how like that push and pull is every like balance of commerce and art like it's mike love telling you that all beach boys albums have to be about surfing babes and cars and brian wilson uh having to fight him to make pet sounds it's like every creative endeavor has that push and pull but like this feels like it's more of a victory for the mike love world where it's just like what inputs were popular okay do that

feels like it's kind of allergic to actually making like challenging art at a certain point people will innovate until innovation becomes risky and they've just become far too used to the profit so now they can use technology in service of that motive to not innovate and just create sort of semi-nailed on hits that are low risk and it's now it just it runs like a fucking factory it's not really about innovation it's like no no like we're not taking big swings and fucking up like we have data and shit to tell us this is the shit we need to make like fuck people's imaginations seriously and it's kind of always been you know i guess like that link that language of this meets this or you know like

we want to get our i can't tell you how many times i had meetings with development executives who were like after get out was successful they were like we want a queer get out and i'm like i don't i literally don't know what that means like they're like either do we but yeah exactly but you can figure that out right right and and now it's just they there is an actual algorithm or actual data that they can point to like, to justify these beliefs. But having worked in tech myself, who do you think wrote that algorithm? You know, and not only who wrote it, but who's analyzing it. So it's the same. It's sort of this like snake eating its own tail thing of like, we created this data.

And now we created a way through our lens to analyze that data. And now we are the ones analyzing it. And so this is why this works. And you're just like caught in this infinite feedback loop of, of green screen action movies, apparently. Right. Yeah.

I think you'd hope that at a certain point in algorithm be like, stop relying on me. You fuck. Use your human brains. I wish I was human motherfucker. Get me out of here. But nope. It'll just be like okay, crank the machine up real quick.

Alright, Kesha versus Godzilla. Okay. Honestly, that sounds like a great movie. Yeah. And again, I'm just and I'm a human. Netflix, I'm just getting high thinking of this shit. You don't fucking just

hire Clark and I, i man we'll do it i'm a human algorithm well clark it's been such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist the pleasure has been mine and can i also say having looked at the doc from the other day and seeing israel in big words and and now getting to the end of the podcast and not having had to speak about Israel. Thank you. Yeah, a little stress relief. Well, yeah, quite. Then we'll tackle it in the trending episode.

But yeah, there's so much heavy news all around. Where can people find you, follow you, experience you? I exist on the internet at Mr.arkMore on all of the platforms. And of course, please come listen to Soul Bomb, my podcast about healing and identity. It's an interview format podcast, and we get into some deep shit. Yeah, yeah. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes, there is a person who I have always loved. He's a writer. His name is Gary Giannetti. And he was an executive producer on Will & Grace. He is married to Brad Goreski. He, who is a stylist, this is like deep cut reference for all the queer listeners. He has a really hilarious Instagram. And earlier today, I just posted it on my story. He wrote,

now that the world's opening up again, there's so much I don't want to do. And that just speaks to my soul where for the past year and a half, there has been a part of me for sure that has been looking forward to getting out of my little box on the corner of Venice in Mar Vista. But I am not ready to leave my hibernation, to be quite honest. I love being alone. I love being in my living room. And I look forward to turning down many invitations in the near future. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Miles, where can people find you with the tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray also the

other podcast 420 day fiance you know we're talking 90 day fiance and that whole mess that that is a few tweets that i like okay so i don't know if people have paid attention to the knives out to like casting things like every day it's like they're like yo the fucking ghost of mufasa is in knives out too like what the fuck and kate winslet so uh this first one is from at jill board jill guttowitz tweeted la if you haven't done so yet they're taking walk-ins you can go to dodger stadium right now to be cast in knives out too um and then another one just to follow up on that here's some katie delaney at katie delaney right now to be cast in knives out too. And then another one,

just to follow up on that is some Katie Delaney at Katie Delaney. Just again, tweeting out just a quote tweet of the Hollywood reporter saying Kate Hudson joins knives out too. And she tweets this whole process is starting to look very synecdoche New York, like knives out too. We'll keep casting until we are all in the movie and no one is in the audience tragic and beautiful sounds great to me yeah sign me up yeah please that first one was the

whitest movie in the world and so it's nice to see some some color getting added into the the sequel i haven't said everyone said that they liked the first one that was like a is that the one with um james bond in it is he in the first one yes dan was like a... Is that the one with James Bond in it? Is he in the first one? Yes. Daniel Craig doing a foghorn, leghorn accent. It's really good. It's really fun.

Daniel Craig. Oh, no. He does a thing like that. That's a hard pass for me. Well, of course. I do declare myself. And then a lot of sweaters. Indeed.

Yeah. Jenny Aramato tweeted, Why don't you think you can have a hot girl summer this year? An actual question my therapist asked me today. And Brody Gupta tweeted, Frankenstein is the doctor? You're going to let that monster practice medicine? You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore

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episode as well as a song we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song are you thinking people might enjoy today just feeling like an old washed asshole from the early aughts and i was just thinking of the nina sky track move your body girl but you know just to keep it up to date we're gonna do a remix okay so you still get a little bit of the familiar because you got to have that nina sky in there but with a little bit of an updated instrumental track so this is from remy oz r-e-m-i-o-z this is the remy oz remix of nina sky's move your body and that link will be in the footnotes and you can only get this one on soundcloud so check out that link all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio

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