The Daily Zeitgeist - Good Medical News? Marketing In The End Times 06.08.22

Episode Date: June 8, 2022

In episode 1264, Jack and Miles are joined by filmmaker, writer, and host of Celebrity Book Club, Chelsea Devantez, to discuss… Orange Turd getting restless, wants to announce 2024 Bat Out Of H...ell Tour, Some nice news - cancer drug trial renders ALL PARTICIPANTS CANCER FREE, Burger King’s Pride Whopper is … Confusing, Stranger Things Tie-Ins Are Getting Weird (And Intrusive) and more! Orange Turd getting restless, wants to announce 2024 Bat Out Of Hell Tour DeSantis beats Trump in conservative group straw poll for 2024 nomination Some Nice News - Cancer Drug Trial Renders ALL PARTICIPANTS CANCER FREE U.S. marines under fire for tweeting picture of rainbow bullets for Pride  Burger King’s Pride Whopper is … Confusing Burger King did not think through its ‘Pride Whopper’ ad Burger King mascot and Ronald McDonald share a passionate kiss in beautiful, unprecedented Pride campaign Burger Queer: Rainbow Capitalism or Allied Action? Stranger Things Tie-Ins Are Getting Weird (And Intrusive) Doritos and “Stranger Things” Head Back to 1986 for “Live from the Upside Down” Concert in June Stranger Things’ Season 4 Spoiled by Netflix Monopoly Game, Duffer Brothers Upset Domino’s and ‘Stranger Things’ want you to order pizza with telekinetic powers Ethan Grey's Tweet Thread LISTEN: AP Special by Augustus PabloSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:01:25 podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 240 episode 3 of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's wednesday june 8th 2022 what what's happening what's what what is it is of course miles tell them what it is oh it is best friends day yeah it is also oopsie daisy day what the fuck that means wait is it oopsie or upsie daisy that's how they spelled it in the thing it's national unless upsie daisy is a whole other kind of daisy we didn't know about i just thought this so so the way they've spelled it is ups why
Starting point is 00:02:45 daisy day yeah i thought the spelling of oopsie was was settled but maybe i thought it was all oopsie but i guess it's up upsie days okay yeah are we is that like another is that like a new straw fang versus uh solid fang debate Are you upsy or oopsie, Daisy? Are you upsy or oopsie? I'm an oopsie Daisy, personally. Yeah. It is another one of those debates, just without the detail
Starting point is 00:03:15 of it being interesting. Wow, it says the oops and whoops in oopsie, Daisy. And according to Merriam-Webster, it is UPSY. You ain't got no alibi. UPSY. And according to Merriam-Webster, it is UPSY. You ain't got no alibi. UPSY. How about that?
Starting point is 00:03:29 All right. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Morbin Time. Open all the doors to theaters across the world. Morbin Time. I'm sorry we made how much? Oh, i'm gonna fucking hurl uh and then i know who i want to take me on that whole part but of course the person that you want to take you home is is morbius oh yeah but yeah that was that is courtesy of chrissy on guc Mane based on a news story I hadn't caught, but apparently they saw all the
Starting point is 00:04:08 heat online for people talking about how Morbius was, you know, very bad or so bad it's good. And they were like, we gotta, we gotta open this thing wide a second time. People just didn't know about it that first time. And it earned three hundred thousand dollars in a thousand theaters uh this past weekend which is low we got to six figures at first it only did 85 i think yeah like yeah it got all it got all the way up they they probably bought out like a bunch of theaters that's wild to think a thousand bucks that they did 85 like a thousand theaters just did 85 bucks for the business. Yeah. So the rare movie that bombed twice at the domestic box office.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Shout out to Christy Yamaguchi-May. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Sleepy Joe takes the morning train, pays crooks from nine to five And then shakes his fist and says Come on, man And we're all drowning in debt Okay, shout out to La Caroni for that wonderful moment Easton
Starting point is 00:05:21 My baby takes Or morning train Isn't nine to five the parenthetical to that? Anyway, I know it as My baby takes a morning train. Isn't 9 to 5 the parenthetical to that? Anyway, I know it as my baby takes a morning train. Shout out, you lockeroni. And we'll wait on what Joe Biden does about that debt because it sounds like he's like, I'm going to announce it when it gets closer to the day the bills are due. That way, y'all, I really got your attention.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Really hits hard. That is one of those AKAs that i am now going to add to my my like playlist because i had forgotten about that song i don't think i've heard it in a decade but oh really it goes yeah especially when sung by miles gray dude the kids love the kids love that song yeah my playlist is just like the the pop music i just put a put on the in the in the car when I'm driving forward with the kids. I know that track because it's like Her Majesty's favorite song from childhood. I was like, she's like, you don't know that song? My Baby Takes?
Starting point is 00:06:11 I'm like, no, I don't. But thank you for putting me on. And now I could sing that AKA Faithfully. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat. Enough fucking around. We're being joined by a brilliantly talented filmmaker and writer. She was the head writer for The Problem with Jon Stewart on Apple TV+,
Starting point is 00:06:31 wrote on Girls 5 Ever, Bless This Mess, The Opposition with Jordan Klepper, many others. Wrote, directed, starred in Basic, which won Best Indie Short and Best Comedy of the Year on the festival circuit.
Starting point is 00:06:45 She's just all around killing it. Please welcome the brilliant, the hilarious Chelsea Devante. Thank you for having me. I'm in my full WrestleMania regalia with that intro. Got a big gold belt around my neck. We were just talking about how we need to, with some guests, start having the sound of glass breaking, and then Miles
Starting point is 00:07:09 and I are like, oh no! Oh my god! That's the music for Chelsea Devont! Oh my god! You know who it is. I'm sorry, the sound of glass breaking, the I'm With Her election-winning soundtrack, I would love that. Remember the Javitsits center the glass that was
Starting point is 00:07:26 supposed to break it's all i think about don't remind me and that was what stone cold steve austin was talking about i think well it wasn't that his music stone yeah when you heard a pane of glass shatter and then stone cold yeah i think he was known yeah noted feminist stone cold steve Feminist. Yeah. Noted feminist. Stone cold. Steve Austin. Exactly. Chelsea, how are you doing? I'm well. Never used that word in my life, but it feels better than sure. Sure. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Right. Okay. How are you? Like that. Yeah. Real insecure. Like, I'm good. How are you?
Starting point is 00:08:01 Oh, my God. I'm so good. I'm so good. That's nice. Okay. I felt that. And then you don't have anything to follow it up with yeah just really like good you know just good like deeply good i mean my goodness yeah we're at a wedding recently you had a nice wedding trip felt good about that yeah you know listen it's um it's been wedding season for all davanta's over here all her friends were like we're we're waiting to the last second.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And then they're all getting married this year. I'm a I have discovered that I believe in strong leadership at a wedding. And if the vibe isn't being created, I feel like I must volunteer to go fucking nuts. And so at the at the last not this previous one, I've tried to be calm. But at the first one, I was literally jumping on the photo table booth to get pictures of my sequined underwear. There you go. You know, because just every wedding's got to have a nut job. Or what is everyone else going to compare themselves to?
Starting point is 00:09:01 Wait, you were wearing sequined underwear? Well, the dress code was sequins. So it was my friend Ariel. She, the dress code was sequins. So it was my friend Ariel, she's the head writer for Colbert. And their dress code was your shiniest outfit. And me and my friend Ashley took it really seriously. And I had on these full sequined pantaloons. They weren't like underwear.
Starting point is 00:09:21 They were, you know, they were a full coverage sequined garment. And I was like, if these aren't photographed, when am I going to wear these again? And so I was trying to jump as high as I could in the photo booth only to discover like I'm a comedian and I can't really move well. So I'm like, come on, here we go. And then I'm, you know, have enough open bar in me to get on the table. The poor little props table guys like, please, please don't break my photo booth drunk freak and i'm like i must show my underwear but i did get them in um so check my instagram i've got i've got a great shot and are you are you the life of the party just generally are you is it is there something kind of about weddings that brings out your sort of spur of the moment volunteer wedding planner or
Starting point is 00:10:02 um i would say like there's just something like deeply broken in my brain and i've got two modes which is like leave me alone i want to be at home or i guess i'll just get really drunk and see what happens yeah um and so it's gotten really worse since uh the pandemic has in quotes ended and we've gone out and about i'm worse at this and so i just kind of can't hang normally. There's something wrong with me. Like I can't just like go to have a nice time. Like I'm all one or the other, no matter what party it is. Right, right, right. What are you guys like at weddings? You go hard or are you just like, you know, a nice glass of wine,
Starting point is 00:10:39 grab a nap, go home in your, in your nice boy suit. I personally used to be a real wild card at weddings, and I stopped drinking about seven years ago. And I am now a, you know, wrap up a couple of apps and a napkin to enjoy at home. You're taking stuff from the tray pass. You're like, oh, this cucumber with the smoked salmon on it. I'm going to take a few of these. Must. A must. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Oh, man. Drinking really does go hand in hand with that life of the party personality trait. Yeah, it does. It did take that out of me. Yeah. So now I'm very boring and uncomfortable at weddings. How about you, Miles? It depends on the...
Starting point is 00:11:20 I read the room. Ooh, that's good. That's what you're supposed to do, I think. Yeah. Well, mostly because I like to dance and shit, and I like to turn up. But if the dance floor is empty and the DJ is not good, I'm not going to be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, we got to get this under control. We got to sort this out. We got to get the right to ship here.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I'm like, okay, that's how they got down. They're not, maybe that's not the culture of this wedding is to have a great X, Y, or Z. So I hate back. But the second I hear Montel Jordan, this is how we do it. I'll throw a full wine glass. You got to show them how they do it. Because someone might do it wrong if you're not on the floor doing it. You'll pour a wine glass just to throw it.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Oh, yeah, 100%. I was at a wedding a while back where there was security saying you couldn't dance with a glass on the dance floor. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And I was like, yo. Is it a children's pool? Also, like, why y'all got cops in here like that? Why are you bringing cops to this wedding?
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah, like, what the fuck? ACAB also includes a dude who's like, hey, man, no glasses on the dance floor. ACAB includes the cousin they paid to keep the glass rough a dude who's like, hey, man, no glasses on the dance floor. ACAB includes the cousin they paid to keep the glassware off the floor.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It's like, hey, oh, you're going to pay for that replacement fee? That's what I thought. That guy was having the time of his life, by the way. That was the best night of his life. Oh, 100%. Releasing the glassware. I had an earpiece that wasn't connected to a radio, but just dangling loosely behind him. I don't know if you guys know
Starting point is 00:12:44 this. I don't know if you're following me, but I'm planning a wedding myself. And wow, what a nightmare. Weddings, just nightmares, just nightmares. And deciding what goes on the tables will end me. And I was truly thinking back to like last season on Jon Stewart's show. I had to like learn the 2017 tax plan and do the math on it to just possibly make sure trickle down was a lie. And, you know, i'm a comedian i'm out here doing math on the 2017 economics in every year since and that was easier
Starting point is 00:13:11 than picking a centerpiece oh yeah it's a it's designed by capitalism to be as much of a like just mind fuck endless series of decisions because yeah. But also the choices they're giving you. It's like, do you want to eat a piece of dog shit or a dead worm? And you're like, oh, God. And I'm comparing that to peonies or tulips. Right, right. Oh, come on. Yeah, the flowers and stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:39 That's why I just go carnation every time. And that's why my wife loves me. Just carnations every single time the trash flower of all flowers yeah well it's fun because you can dye them different colors so that's cool just the worst color just seventh grader taste in flowers and by dyeing them you're just hitting them with krylon spray paint you're like see this one's blue there we go indistinguishable from crumpled up tissue paper. So it's kind of nice.
Starting point is 00:14:07 All right, Chelsea, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We're talking about how people are getting ready for the 2024 Bat Out of Hell tour of Donald Trump. He's running. People can stop tempting themselves with the possibility that he doesn't run uh he's running we'll talk about like where he's at with that decision and with the announcement and the the whole event planning hey event planning that's something that we were just talking about we're going to talk about uh good news
Starting point is 00:14:41 a cancer drug trial that seemed to go very well. And then we'll do a marketing check-in with Stranger Things and some of the pride campaigns going on. Oh, boy. Mainly from the U.S. Marines and Burger King, two of our finest institutions. Champions of equality. But before we get to any of that chelsea we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history oh okay so i for my podcast was unfortunately reading the book hashtag girl boss which is such a incredible piece of work and i was just look
Starting point is 00:15:21 there's a quote in her book that says uh come to those who wait, but only those left by the only things left by those who don't hustle. And then it's attributed to Abraham Lincoln. Yes. And I was like, what? And I mean, this is like, you know, it's fully printed in the book. And so I'm going to look at the other quotes. I'm like, maybe the whole book has been joke quotes and i was like no they're not so all the other quotes are real so i went on a pretty intensive search that uh apparently the book publishers
Starting point is 00:15:53 didn't do on link three the lincoln foundation debunks that abraham lincoln never said this but there's so much art uh an etsy art with this quote being sold and now people are sending me pictures of this quote that are up in their offices where everyone believed that lincoln abraham lincoln said things come to those who wait but only things left by those who don't hustle hustle i mean he was on that rising grunge abe lincoln he's always said that I think he coined that phrase He was like we all have the same amount Of hours in the day as Beyonce Which was Which I'm sure was
Starting point is 00:16:33 A woman who was enslaved During the year he was alive that he was pretending To fight for What a fucking like hustle That doesn't that Immediately set off alarm bells? It's not like the Gettysburg Address was like, and I've got a dream worth more than my sleep.
Starting point is 00:16:52 That's why I'm grinding, son. I'm on that grind. Grind culture. In the Civil War, we got to be out here going hard all day. Yeah, it's truly shocking that anyone let it get published in a book, let alone sold constantly and framed art. It's everywhere. And additionally, the word hustle did exist in that year, but it meant something entirely different. It meant to like beg and do nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Oh, right. Like like being a hustler, like you're hustling people for. Yeah. Yes, exactly. And yeah. So anyway, so that was that was the latest thing in my search history of trying to figure out why hashtag girl boss was quoting Abraham Lincoln telling you to hustle. I'm surprised. Like, I just love the idea of putting toxic hustle culture quotes on historical figures where like the vernacular is complete. figures where like the vernacular is complete like there's no way they were talking like that like it's not like there's one that says work until you no longer have to introduce yourself jesus christ you know what i mean like yeah that is i i did find that quote attributed abraham lincoln on forbes quotes thoughts on the business of life yeah forbes is out here putting that shit out yeah man that that's like i i have something on the doc about how like future
Starting point is 00:18:13 historians when they're trying to like figure out what the fuck went wrong uh what the fuck was wrong just in general with the western world we'll probably look at marketing but like the entire canon of business literature is going to be wow yeah yeah that's gonna take someone out i mean i learned because of this i learned the very sad fact where uh several book publishers and copy editors contact me to let me know that books are not fact-checked i said what and i guess like i don't know what i was thinking that there was like a police union for books you know where they come around like you can't say that that's not true it's just i've always trusted books more than i trust tweets only to find out that they both have
Starting point is 00:18:55 the same uh fact-checking system which is to say none or you know your weird cousin coming in to be like well actually yeah books aren't fact-checked unless you paid to have it done. So Girlboss wrote down that Lincoln quote and that then just thousands of copies sold. I'm assuming just like the fact-checking process was rejected on the basis of being not profitable like much of like journalism. But that's that is so wild yeah yeah non-fiction yeah it's just not i mean i guess that's how we get uh what james gray a million little pieces where they're like oh actually he like made the whole thing up he's like whoopsie whoopsie whoopsie whatever yeah whoopsie whoopsie day um because yeah i guess
Starting point is 00:19:42 you have to pay to fact check it yourself. And then you also could also you also still have to agree. So even if someone's like, hey, by the way, I don't think Abraham Lincoln said that. You can be like, no, I'm gonna put it in the book anyway. Like it's your prerogative. Right. Exactly. Like, I'm pretty sure Sigmund Freud said, turn down your feelings and turn up your hustle.
Starting point is 00:20:03 All hustle quotes. Chelsea, what is something you think is underrated? Okay. This is a long walk, but hold my hand and join me on the speech. I love long walks. Okay. Underrated is pure unbridled talent.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Now, go with me because I've heard you haven't seen Top gun maverick and this this is something that's really been on my mind when sodden theaters it's a true it's a true masterpiece it's masterpiece and it's also masterpiece because it's just like classic incredible storytelling like i also went and saw dr strange you know which is like the most confusing horrific piece of garbage sold as a movie for a bajillion green screen dollars. And Top Gun Maverick like reminded you like what good movies are and why you get that
Starting point is 00:20:53 little special feeling in your heart. And as I was watching it, I was like, wow, like Tom Cruise is out of his goddamn mind. He reminds me of my mom's first husband. I mean, he makes me want to throw up. He's a Scientologist. I'm pretty sure he's helped a woman go missing in Scientology for many years. And-
Starting point is 00:21:13 Shelly Miscavige? Yeah, Shelly Miscavige. He definitely ripped a girl's braces off and thought he might marry her, then cast her out. I'm sure he ruined Katie Holmes' life. And yet, I was able to enjoy this movie because he's just that talented and i was like
Starting point is 00:21:28 what is doing this for me like do we forgive him because he's a man because or is it talent and i was like at the i'm still on this walk i'm almost done at the beginning of the movie he comes on it's just him like in a chair he's like hey guys thanks for coming to see top gun you're like whoa what the fuck and he's like we just like we worked so hard to bring you real speed real stunts real planes and really give you the like experience of flying i'm just like so happy you're here which is you know as i'm saying it you're like that's that's uh that's an attack like what who plays that for a movie and he's so goddamn likable that you're like, man, thank you. Thank you for real speed.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Yeah. And then you watch the movie and they're like, he did give us real speed. And I just, I was like, wow, talent can just go so far because he's a monster. And that movie's epic. Tom Cruise is talking to me. Oh my God. And it's like his smile wasn't too much it didn't it didn't seem corny somehow he just really seems like he was thanking you for coming over to
Starting point is 00:22:33 regal 15 right it sounds like he's doing the thing that he does in real life when he does junkets which is ingratiates himself to the people that are about to interview him or cover a film that he's doing and that's like eye contact introductions thanks for coming nice to meet you i'm tom and people immediately like oh wow he took his time yeah took time out to say that and that feels like just did that like you know what'll really help let me just address the fucking plebs in the audience let me let them know like because they really flew in those planes you guys there was no green screen use here's the thing though miles like i could make and i do all the time i make eye contact hi i'm chelsea i shake your hand i ask you a question about yourself we have a good time i
Starting point is 00:23:17 walk away half the people are probably like what a bitch like it is not guaranteed to work for everyone and somehow he's a true criminal and it works it's not a tactic there's technique there's genius he is there's something it's the thetans inside him or something oh yeah it's the orbs of light that rule scientology just beaming through his eyes yeah honestly that's a probably the best ad for scientology is the magic in tom cruise's eyes and being like that's scientology y'all and i'm like fuck dang you guys i think i might have to sign up for a hundred thousand dollars worth of books and you're like but wait every but no one else has it that's part of it hmm yeah maybe not a good ad well no actually what's our uh handmaid's tale woman elizabeth elizabeth moss scientologist yeah she doesn't have that like but if she did a do you think
Starting point is 00:24:11 if she did a video before and was like hey thanks for coming out we wanted real speed real stunts like we're gonna be like okay i'm on board i can deal with this or would you be a little bit like like is this movie gonna suck suck? She seems nervous. She comes in front of Handmaid's Tale. She's like, no, real torture porn. Truly ruin these women's lives in the making of Handmaid's Tale. Real pain. Real pain. Real screams.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Real tears. That's my promise to you in this film. Real forced labor. Come on in. I feel like Tom Cruise, like the stories you hear about him on the set of movies is he is the best director who has not officially directed one of his movies. He's always there. I heard an anecdote from Jerry Maguire where he had his hand off camera as he's acting, and he's directing the person he's acting opposite of like where to put their head in the frame and the person was like yeah and it was perfect it was exactly right like yeah
Starting point is 00:25:11 that's amazing i was just you know going on a shotgun deep dive and found out that after miles teller who plays goose's son would go on his flight for making real speed happen who plays Goose's son would go on his flight for making real speed happen. Tom Cruise made him turn in a flight report. So Miles Teller would have to go and sit down and write a real flight report and turn it in to daddy space captain Tom Cruise, who would then grade the flight report. I thought it was hilarious. I was like, I'm glad you made Miles Teller do that.
Starting point is 00:25:44 That's funny. I wonder if Tom Cruise's son, like Connor, is like, I'm glad you made Miles Teller do that. That's funny. I wonder if Tom Cruise's son, Connor, is like, damn, giving him all this attention. You never asked me to fly a plane. Man, I got to learn to fly a plane so my daddy loved me. Yo, but you weren't impressed when I was doing my dubstep DJ career. Have you ever seen Tom Cruise in person? No, no. I walked by him on some stairs one time.
Starting point is 00:26:04 He was walking up. I was walking down. He's short, I think. Yeah. I don't know because I didn't, like, I've seen a lot of famous people in person. I do always like to get as close as possible to see, like, how short they are. Yeah, but you do that thing, Jack, where you put your hand on top of your head. Yeah, I say get back to back with me right now and go butt to butt i do i usually do say butt to butt but he was like the most
Starting point is 00:26:32 magnetic person and he wasn't like hey how are you i'm like trying to shake my hand he just i just passed him just passing him on the thing he seemed to be hovering a couple inches off the ground and that's like nicole kidman yeah yeah wait that when i i met her maybe there is maybe this just needs to become a scientology podcast which is wild when i met nicole kidman that was fucking energy too and she flowed out we were all like yo does she just float fucking through here right now yeah that was just like you're so distracted and i don't know maybe because it's the size of their celebrity or something that like your brain is just overloaded but part of me like who isn't necessarily like i've seen every nicole kidman
Starting point is 00:27:13 thing i was just like she is so fucking graceful and has like an aura about her it's i god i hope there's some theater somewhere playing the nicole fit kidmanman ad about the magic of theaters right before Maverick comes on. Yeah. I was going to say, maybe she had just seen Creed 2 and that's why she was so graceful and otherworldly because she apparently really loves that movie. That's what she's watching
Starting point is 00:27:37 in that thing is Creed 2. I did not realize that. Yeah, like that's one of the movies they show and then cut back to her and she's just like so mesmerized and yeah, transfixed. Hilarious. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll find out something that you think is overrated.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes! Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote, what is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history.
Starting point is 00:30:17 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed
Starting point is 00:30:29 the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 00:30:46 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified
Starting point is 00:31:25 Should we wake her up? Absolutely not What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it That was live audio of a woman's nightmare This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this?
Starting point is 00:31:41 We passed the review board a year ago We're not hurting people There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Chelsea, we like to ask
Starting point is 00:32:12 our guests, what is something you think is overrated? Okay, it's going with our event planning, you know, wedding talk. But if you are having a wedding and you have a wedding registry, you're a bad person you're just like a truly bad evil person if you're having a wedding you do have a wedding registry yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:32:33 if you're having a wedding you have a wedding registry and here's my take on this especially now one if you're having a wedding you have money you just do and if your dad's paying for it then like he can buy you the bamboo plate set or whatever you know what i mean like so you do have money and this is what's killing me and again i'm having a wedding like i so i just feel like i get to say this this is my year to say this um wedding registries are overrated because there's so much awful pain and suffering and tragedy going on right now. And the only fundraiser you organized was for your own locker sets. Yeah. And I just think it's disgraceful. Terrible timing.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Do you know what I mean? It's like, I'm over here buying fucking Katie and Brian new towels. Like, what? Right. I got to be sending towels to somebody else. New towel sets are, they got to go somewhere else. They can't go to the O.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Just, yeah, like just, or at least, you know, have that option to be like, or charity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Well, make a donation to this charity that we like. That'll, you know, you could do that too. If you want to put some, some good out in the world, or we would love these Turkish cotton towels from Parachute.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Only need five of them. Your choice, though. Yeah. Charity or Parachute cotton towels. Luxury for us, the people you love and who invited you to a wedding. So your choice. Whatever you want. Yes or no.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Here's a picture of us. We truly looked into doing this before deciding it's too hard and we have real jobs but we were like we wanted to create a website that had like you know your parachute towels and your dishes and your stuff on them so you would feel compelled to buy us gifts and then as soon as you bought it it would be like surprise this is going the unhoused community and then we're like maybe that's a lot of web coding that we don't know how to do we don't know how to flip them like that. So we just had to lead with charity. Hey, Zeitgang, if you're any web designers who want to offer your services for a gotcha,
Starting point is 00:34:33 oopsie-daisy wedding registration site, hit Chelsea up on Twitter. Oopsie-daisy. We're not going to ask for plates while also burdening you with our wedding. Please give your money to a better cause all right let's get into the news upsy-daisy i think donald trump's getting a little restless it seems like i don't know the worst kind of restless and i think we've all been bracing ourselves for the moment where donald trump announces that he's running for president again and a lot of people like yeah you never, you never know. You might not.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Like, I don't know. But we all were like, that man's ego is not going to allow that to happen, especially since he has no Twitter, truth socials and absolute garbage fire. So he's really looking for a way to be relevant. That isn't just like I'm endorsing this person who will lose. And a lot of people speculated, look, maybe he doesn't want to go through all the bullshit. But then the other half of people are like, you know, part of us think that he sees becoming president as his only way out of his numerous legal problems that he's
Starting point is 00:35:35 having. And that's really all it means for him at this point. So the current thinking from people in his orbit seems to be, and this is from like reporting from a few different places that, you know, when does he announce? It's not really about when. It's now when. Right. Do we do it too early? And you end up helping Democrats in the midterms by offering them their favorite campaign tactic, which is just to say Trump and not have to really think of anything else. It's like, oh, I don't know, man, Trump, though. So which they would love that the DNC is praying for that one. That to be the midterm strategy is say Trump dot dot dot, maybe codify abortion rights. I don't know. But Trump mostly. Then the other other side is, well, if you wait too long, you announce too late.
Starting point is 00:36:19 And then the field starts to bubble up with people like Pence and DeSantis. And now you've got more competition that you have to you know, you have to end up going up against. And then the other one is more of like a wonky aspect, which is if he announces too soon, campaign finance laws. This is one of the reasons why people are like, he's not going to announce right after losing because it wouldn't allow his campaign to interact with the super PAC that he has and like move money around like he does, like a grifter. So he probably want to wait just to not run afoul of campaign finance laws. But who cares about like he follows those anyway? Yeah, I definitely I everyone's like, when is he gonna announce but I'm more interested in how is he gonna announce like, is it an escalator again? You know, does he go full elevator? Or is he jumping out a hot air balloon?
Starting point is 00:37:05 I honestly hope he chooses something where he dies. Like, don't you see him being like, I got to one-up it. Let's do it from a naval jet. And it's just, you know? Doing like a Super Day of Osborne, like, stunt. An escalator, but it's got to be fast. It's got to go really fast. Really fast.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Real stunts. Real speed. To the sky. And I just don't think Melania's there. I don't, you know what I mean? Are they dragging her corpse out? Is it a mannequin? Yeah, hologram.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Impossible to say. It's impossible to say. Does he debut a new girlfriend? I mean, the possibilities are just endless. Could you imagine? I mean. And this is my new boo. You're like, wait.
Starting point is 00:37:42 No. Is that brand new me, y'all? Hey, it's actually, I'm with candace owens yeah i'm done a genius noob don't put that out there for him that's and we added that out actually that's how cynical it is though he would do some shit like that if you were like oh like what do you mean oh yeah no also how is the campaign gonna go without twitter granted let's pretend elon musk or someone doesn't give it back to him but all of our news outlets really just were on twitter watch and without that he's gonna have to do press conference after press conference which we know he's too tired for and doesn't
Starting point is 00:38:24 have the brain cells to be doing that but he'll have to i mean i'm just very curious know he's too tired for and doesn't have the brain cells to be doing that but he'll have to i mean i'm just very curious how he's gonna drum up his press yeah i the so one thing that people are saying is he's really interested in the fourth of july as a potential day to announce oh yeah he loves the fourth of july not juneteenth it feels like he would do it yeah he's just you know he's like they don't appreciate me for that one. He's just going to do the Independence Day speech. Yeah. Call it a day. We celebrate our Independence Day. He and but so that's where a lot of people bring up the concerns, which is you go that early and before midterms,
Starting point is 00:38:59 if your picks end up losing in the midterms or a lot of people you endorsed, end up losing in the midterms or a lot of people you endorsed, that is going to put more blood in the water for the likes of like the DeSantis or the Nikki Haley's other people who are, you know, watching him very closely to be like, is this dude about to slip up? Because if he is, we're ready. And this is also against the backdrop where there was another conservative straw poll that happened in Colorado where the participants at this like West Coast conservative sort of convention, they picked Ron DeSantis over Trump in a straw poll of people. They're like, these don't mean anything. Do we trust straw polls?
Starting point is 00:39:34 It's just like, no, showed up to the Colorado convention to take the straw poll. Like, obviously, it's Rick DeSantis. What it does say for like, if anything, is that when these Republicans are getting together at their little like, you know, conventions and deciding to be like, okay, who do you like? Trump doesn't necessarily have the like edge of like blowing everyone out. And I think that's what it does show is like, there's clearly some kind of debate to amongst conservatives. Like, is that a losing proposition? Like it motivates so many people against him. Do we, are we better off finding someone else who's just as horrific, if not worse, and younger?
Starting point is 00:40:08 So, you know, all of those things hang in the air. You mean like a Matt Gaetz? Like, can we get him up? Jesus. I mean, I think I feel like at that point they know like this guy is like got one foot in a jail cell already. So maybe not. But I mean, who knows? already so maybe not but i mean who knows trump might too if if we live in a fantasy world where the january 6th committee hearings go like they do in adam kinzinger's mind i feel like the only
Starting point is 00:40:34 thing that's scaring him is like he's not he's not worried about anybody i i guess maybe if the new york times like wrote the straw poll story and like put it as front news, because that does seem to really hurt his feelings. But he's he's definitely going to run. I don't think he's worried. I don't think he like when you hear him talk about like DeSantis or Pence, like staging a like challenge to him. He's like, that would be very disloyal. They would never do that to me. I think that reads as shook to me.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I think he's just in his own universe and probably like not i don't know he almost ended the country i think he's in his own universe where he's the master of everything and infallible but part of me is like i don't think he realizes he is looking at them he's like wait what's going on like i'm i'm i'm number one like let me have my moment right i mean i'm i'm surprised to say this, but I think I'm thrilled. I think I'm thrilled he's running. And imagine him on stage in a debate with Pence and, like, Pence has actually stepped up to challenge him. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:35 He's just going to start airing every horrible thing that happened in the last four years. He's going to talk about his ball size. He's going to talk about, like, whether he fucks his wife. Like, I think it's going to. They think I don't fuck my wife. Wait, what? He destroyed our country, women's rights. The pandemic took our economy out. I think we should get to
Starting point is 00:41:56 see the next shit show. We've earned this. Do you know what I mean? We have earned Trump going again and watching that party dismantle themselves. But I feel like it's still gonna work like i really do yeah he'll still win because like and like my main reason for saying that is just like he's the only person who's who like doesn't really give a fuck like about what like polls say or what the media says i'm like that is what people are craving like is like people who aren't don't seem to be
Starting point is 00:42:27 responding to like three levels deep of whatever an advisor has learned from like a focus group you know and yeah that's it's true that is like coming from whatever he's saying is coming off the top of his head it's just that his brain happens to be you know he he basically ran a hustle for his whole life where he was claiming basically that he was like the unofficial president of rich guys and then he got to be president and he was like almost ended the country to stay president like he's i feel like we're dealing with a like black hole of just ego and there's nothing we can do like yeah i don't know i feel very pessimistic yeah it's tough to and i know like it's tough for me to think about the media culture and the analysis and even all of this because we we already know the answer we really do we already know the answer like we it doesn't really matter what what they try and what is possible or impossible like we know the answer
Starting point is 00:43:30 the impossible is possible you will definitely win i would at least at least like to see some true fuckery on the way there um because it's all we have left yeah i i think that's the version i'm holding out for like well can it be a comedic death that we get to yeah oh i think that's the version i'm holding out for like well can it be a comedic death that we get to yeah oh i think he's gonna die too i mean can we have a heard it here first i really want you to call back to this episode i do think it's coming i truly do and um please don't come at me it's not coming from me i just think it's um i think i think is uh i think death is coming i feel like i feel like he's got that George Bush shit, though. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:07 You did know Trump was going to get elected before anyone because of The Bachelor. That's right. So we just throwing back to your first appearance. So I think where are you getting these? What tea leaves are you reading? I have a couple of crystals on my desk. Okay. And they're really sticking pretty deeply to me right now this is
Starting point is 00:44:26 coming from the new age side of me that grew up with psychics i'm just feeling a death for him and you know what let's put a time stamp on it let's see if my crystals are as accurate as the bachelor uh i'm gonna actually you know what according to the bachelor he would not win this election uh but according to my yeah but according to my crystals he's gonna die in the next two years wow okay so bachelor crystals the epic fight continues the ultimate showdown you guys watch watch the fucking secret service like attack my shitty apartment tomorrow morning right they won't they won't do that will they i don't know i don't know i think so you can't say well you can't say like you are going to commit an act yeah yeah if you that's true but i don't know again i made that clear right in a weird sense it could be something like do you know something oh no well i can hand over
Starting point is 00:45:19 the crystals wow you're gonna drop a dime on your own crystals huh okay listen i really liked that rose quartz but she's gotta go yeah crystal snitch chelsea davante all right let's take a quick break we'll come back we have good news about cancer and then we'll talk about marketing i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling first-hand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app,
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Starting point is 00:47:23 Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss a hundred percent of the shots you never take? Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better
Starting point is 00:48:31 because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I've been thinking about you.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110. 120.
Starting point is 00:49:07 She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything?
Starting point is 00:49:23 You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year everything. You're allowed to be doing this. We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. which bad for scientific like viability good for my brain i can understand 18 people we all can yeah that that makes it good for me and i i bring this story in because for all the terrible news that's out there it's nice to read every once in a while that there are some like
Starting point is 00:50:17 some pretty significant advancements taking place in the world of fuck cancer and there's again like you said a very small clinical trial but what happened was 18 rectal cancer patients took the same drug and after the trial all 18 were in emission remission and their cancer had become essentially indetectable and this is a first where any experiment has like 100 the same result one of the doctors are participating said quote i believe this is the first time this has happened in the history of cancer another doctor is a cancer specialist at uc san francisco wasn't involved with the study and was asked for a quote looked at it and said quote a complete remission in every single patient is unheard of. So these are
Starting point is 00:51:05 like, you know, these are people who are looking down like a potential schedule of treatments that would have been, you know, like life altering and took so much out of them, changed them physically, obviously. But with this drug, they were able to, you know, get on the other side and they absolutely were just kind of shocked and even the doctors said when they when they were like announced the results like so many people were like in disbelief over what had happened and that they had been in remission now again like you're saying jack oncologists are not ready to throw a ticker tape parade since this group was only 18 people they know that only the size was only 18 people and obviously would need to be
Starting point is 00:51:45 like replicated these results like with a much larger group but it's it is something like where you hear like actual doctors be like that is unheard of though i mean that shit is weird uh my official medical opinion is that shit is weird we're not gonna throw one of our famed oncologist ticker tape parades just yet. We are known for throwing the best in the biz, but we're going to hold off for now. But just you hear from us. That is weird. I mean, if you had a study and it cured one person of cancer, I'd be like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:52:21 You're like, that's enough for me. That's a lot. 18 is a lot of people. Here's my question for you guys, though. The good news, I think this is good news. If they have cured cancer, what are they going to say to keep women from having abortions? Because, you know, that baby could have cured cancer, but cancer's cured now. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:45 So how are they going to keep abortion rights away from us now? What are they going to say? That baby could have cured climate change, which is a thing we don't believe in, but you do. But also your baby's going to kind of cause climate change too. So something to think about. Something to weigh. Single bullet. One shot, one kill. I love this good news.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I'm so glad. When you said that, I was this is that just made my week i feel like it's been so long since true good news like that's really incredible yeah and again like it's one of those things where you you read a lot of the analysis of like other researchers and they're like 18 is a small number and but all people like however that's pretty remarkable and a lot of this started because like some of these researchers were thinking of using like a drug like that was sort of part of like a standard treatment but like using it earlier in someone's diagnosis when it was like localized and hadn't metastasized and that's where they were like oh wow like it has
Starting point is 00:53:41 like the results are even better at this stage so So, you know, it's good to see little bits of news where technology isn't being like, hey, man, you want to make nine ape slurps to make a shit coin? That's what our greatest minds are doing. Right. I'm just going to read this last sentence. I haven't read it yet in the story. The experimental treatment is expensive. sentence. I haven't read it yet in the story. The experimental treatment is expensive, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that all 18 cancer survivors are oil executives. Oh, come on. No, that's not true. I made that last part up. It's like, yes, this treatment has been banned in the
Starting point is 00:54:18 United States. I mean, Cuba did come up with a large cell lung cancer vaccine. And America's like, we'll see about that. All right. Let's talk marketing. Our greatest. It's where people who want to do a sensible thing after getting a humanities education and have some talent, like, get sucked up into the marketing world. It is massive, and it is lucrative, and it's fucked. It's awful. And I feel like this is a good place for future historians to kind of check
Starting point is 00:54:59 and be like, so what the fuck was going on there? Really? Their earth was burning. Right. Unpreventable death everywhere. And A? So one marketing campaign we wanted to call out, the U.S. Marines, tweeted out a picture of a rainbow, like it's basically the full metal jacket,
Starting point is 00:55:19 you know, marine helmet with the bullets in the little like band around the helmet. And except all the all the bullets are a rainbow cut, like different colors of the rainbow. And it still says born to kill on it, though. I'm sorry. Where are we at with Don't Ask, Don't Tell in the Marines? Like, what's even the policy of existing there? It's OK now.
Starting point is 00:55:47 OK. like right what's even the policy of existing there it's okay now it okay it feels like those bullets are like um it feels it feels like those are little menacing right that that was my first thought i was like is this threatening like are they saying fuck your pride like this is it says born to serve on the helmet oh and rather than born to kill? Yeah. Oh, wait. And it's in that terrible font that's called graffiti, like New York graffiti. Sorry, no, it says proud to serve. Well, maybe they're proud to be serving them looks
Starting point is 00:56:18 on the Marine runway. Let them know. So that's okay. Good to know that we can just be like cool thank you marine corps for your wonderful display of red orange yellow green blue indigo violet and then there is burger king uh international various burger king ad campaigns around the world for pride month austria did the pride burger and the thing that makes it a Pride Burger is it has two equal buns. So, in other words, each burger comes with either two tops or two bottoms, suggesting that they don't know how sex of any sort works.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I think anyone, gay or straight, can tell you that not all buns are created equal. That's not really a part of it. Time to be proud. And then just the, yeah, it looks like an error was made. The burgers that they have next to them. It looks like when I've ran out of like burger buns at my own cookout, I'm like, I only got two heels left because like someone just ate a loose top part of the bun I'm like fuck I guess I gotta use two heels of the bun I mean do you think someone in marketing nailed it and was like it's pride month we've got burgers fucking buns out for pride you know and then some middle manager was like well we can't say that but let's keep a
Starting point is 00:57:41 quality in mind they moved it around or do do you think this was them being like, we did it. We nailed LGBTQ innuendo. Awesome job. Tops and bottoms. Cool. I don't think they've even thought. But they're not even calling it tops and bottoms, are they? Yeah, they're just calling it equality.
Starting point is 00:57:59 That's the thing. Except what it does is just create two bad hamburgers. Right. But everyone else who's even savvy would be like, tops and bottoms of the buns together. There's so much nuance. I guess not nuance. In that sense, you're like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:20 I mean, if you really want that burger, they got to be like, hey, listen, the top bun is a straight hetero male. Bottom bun is a gay lesbian woman. They're on the same burger. And you're like, man, I guess. So, like, they're equal in ways that, like, you would expect them to be equal because you wouldn't expect the top bun to be on the bottom of the burger. Yeah, no. Like, just print this campaign before i finish this sentence thank you but wow i honestly am just shocked more fast food restaurants haven't taken this on and what did we have last year it was like the shamrock
Starting point is 00:58:57 pride shake you know what was that one where they got like the older guys on tiktok to do like a sweet video about being. Well, listen, they did something back then. It's just like just the possibilities for innuendo with fast food and pride could go so wrong in so many chain restaurants. I'd like to see everyone take it on. Well, I don't know what McDonald's did last year, but I do know that last year Burger King Mexico changed their name for the month, too. And this is a quote, Burger Queer. Which is not super.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Wait, so wait, it was McDonald's and then it was burger queer? No, no, no. I said, I don't know. You had mentioned the shamrock shake, which I'm not fully, I'm not comfortable criticizing the shamrock shake personally.
Starting point is 00:59:43 So I just tried to redirect gently to Burger King because that was their strategy. Burger King Mexico for the month of June will be burger queer. Why didn't they just go Burger Queen? Q-U-I-N-G. You know what I mean? It was right there. Burger King. Or Burger Queen.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Burger Twink. I mean, like, I there, Burger King. Or Burger Queen. Burger Twink. I mean, like, I think those are better options. And then you have, like, Twinkies on the, I mean. I'm sure they'd find terrible ways to, yeah, make that idea work. What is the poster, though? Okay, so down below, so Burger King is apparently just letting, the various marketing departments freelance because 2020 Burger King Finland put up a billboard featuring the Burger King mascot making out with Ronald McDonald. I'm sorry. I like that one.
Starting point is 01:00:34 I do, too. Imagine what that did to a bunch of little kids. That's awesome. Ronald is in an open relationship with Grimace and the Domino's Noid. So it was controversial. It made a splash yeah yeah i think i feel like we deserve that version remember because in the 90s and shit it was always the pepsi guy and the coke delivery guy like commercials where they would pull up at the
Starting point is 01:00:56 same place where's that video with them make it out but like they are the most aggressively like heterosexual guys they had to like right isn't that the thing they were like the guy was cast as like beer drinker with like four o'clock shadow
Starting point is 01:01:13 yeah exactly yeah well good for look look those the marketing geniuses
Starting point is 01:01:19 have done it again by the laziest ideation process imaginable what if Burger King made out with Ronald McDonald? All right. Sounds like a merger more than a pride statement. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:35 So the one good thing I'd say that comes from all of this is that people were pointing out, as a result of all these, you know, just very wild swings that they were taking, that Burger King had a poor rating on the Human Rights Campaign Foundation's Corporate Equality Index due to a lack of employment protections on the basis of gender identity, as well as lack of base level health care coverage for transgender employees. And that has since been rectified because people were like,
Starting point is 01:02:05 well, yeah. That's nice. That is kind of nice. Wow, that marketing department just got fired. Isn't that crazy? Right. They're like,
Starting point is 01:02:12 hey, your fucking shitty campaign got us this year, basically. And they're like, ugh. And you know, while all fast food industries have their crimes, I will say the worst one, if you're going to not support one, pride aside, is Wendy's.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Because Wendy's won't sign this act that says they'll protect farm workers, like women who are assaulted working on these farms. And like they basically came together, went to the fast food corporations. They're like, it's called the Immokalee workers. They're like, sign these acts to just say you won't buy goods from farms that allow migrant women to, you know, undergo all these horrible things. And everyone was like, you got it. And Wendy was like, nope. Sorry, bitches. We want assault tomatoes.
Starting point is 01:02:55 So you're out there getting your Wendy's shake. Don't. Wow. Yeah. I had to do a PSA. That's my that's my pride pride PSA is Wendy's hates LGBTQ pride there it is and obviously Chick-fil-a goes
Starting point is 01:03:11 without saying and then we also have Stranger Things ads that are just everywhere which I guess have you guys, Miles have you finished Stranger Things season 4? no I'm on the third episode. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:25 I started watching that, put it down. Is it good? Is it held up? This is wild. Do you think it's going to get stranger? Yo, it got stranger and, like, pretty gory. And I was like, okay, cool. I'm like, I'm with it.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I guess, like, we're growing up along with the cast where, like, they're like, yeah, they can handle some fucked up violence now. That's true. If they wanted to go full 80s, they should have used the diehard naming convention and just been like, even stranger. Strangest thing yet. Strange with a vengeance. Really. Strangest thing. But anyways, their ads are all over the place. There's like a big partnership with Doritos where you can score tickets to a virtual concert that takes place in the Upside Down.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Which is the monster infested horror dimension. Is that just like a Coachella with a bunch of rotten trees or what is that? On Meta or whatever. Yeah. New Horizons. It has this whole like background where it's like Doritos Music Fest in 1986 never happened because a tour bus crashed near Hawkins, Indiana. And despite the fact that they were thrown into literal hellscape, the likes of Corey Hart and the Go-Go's are going to put on this show on June 23rd. So it's just going to be like tortured in that universe like they must have disappeared and they've been just in this hellscape ever since and eating Doritos yeah and they're just gonna
Starting point is 01:04:53 like throw them on and they're gonna be like oh well show's on show must go on I gotta say the one marketing guy who like really wanted to be a screenwriter and his parents were like that's not practical so he went into marketing just had the best day of his fucking life writing that paragraph right as the fans are pulled deeper into the upside down they will be shocked to see decade defying pop star charlie xcx take the stage and perform a surprise collaboration with one of the 80s bands charlie xcx is your 80s doritos stranger things choice i think they were like we gotta we gotta update this for the kids damn it and that and so they were like yeah well it's a it's a plot twist because whoa what's she doing here but she defies decade. She literally doesn't.
Starting point is 01:05:45 And she is great. But she is really 2022. She's got decades defying. Like, she doesn't. All her beats are of the now. Yeah. Like, I'll give her maybe 2014. Like, that Iggy Azalea video where it was clueless.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I'm so fancy. Oh, I mean. Wasn't that her on the hook? But, yeah. Is that decades def yeah again that's the closest she got to throwback i feel like i mean didn't she did say she's a 90s bitch isn't that that lyric from that song you're the one who runs a charlie xcx fan site again though like stranger things is the 80s like you can't just be like nah she's a 90s bitch get her in here a decade's defying she's gotta be an 80s bitch an 80s slut an 80s whore
Starting point is 01:06:31 like you know you hear the terms available an 80s girl boss like you're from the 70s but I'm a 90s bitch that's the lyric that my brain would not let me move on until I looked it up that's just me speaking to my ex older boyfriend so people are gonna be shocked by that even though they just like told you what
Starting point is 01:06:55 was gonna happen they're gonna that's that's the plot twist of the doritos thing there was a stranger things monopoly game that came out and when they leaked you know images of the game it spoiled actual like plot points from the show so the creators are like you're fucking kidding me with like yeah very very frustrating for them they're i mean fleshlight issue tweet new product that will finally allow people to fuck a demogorgon's mouth is basically what they've done here. That's not real, right? I mean, it is an actual tweet by Fleshlight. I don't know that they have created the product
Starting point is 01:07:35 other than for this promotion. It has to be. I'm sorry. I love that. That's exactly what Fleshlight is for. You know what I mean? It's just like, stop being like, we're a dirty slut. Go be a demogorgon. you know what i mean it's just like stop being like we're a dirty slut go be a demogorgon you know what i mean like fuck a demon the most vaginal like monster of the past like five years yeah yeah people fuck it that's what that is what you are
Starting point is 01:07:57 for hey listen that feels better than like i think they made a sex toy for princess leia where like you can actually have sex with honestly it's carrie fisher but you're having sex with princess leia and it's just like i feel like we should just god how do how do i get that law enacted uh right jack what's happening to your face are you thinking about that princess yeah or i feel like it's a full it's a sex doll i thought it was like the another fleshlight like this and i was just trying to two huge cinnamon buns or you're fucking this cinnamon bun okay that's a genius idea and fleshlight do not take that from me yeah right and if anything you should be fucking the sarlacc pit right that is that is what this is this is instead of uh princess leia They have allowed you to fuck the Sarlacc pit.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Yeah. Okay. So fuck the Sarlacc pit. Fuck a Demogorgon. I guess that's true. Fuck the sandworms in... Oh, Shai-Halut? Yeah. From Toon?
Starting point is 01:08:55 And suddenly Miles is in. Hold on. Whoa, Miles. You got a little too... Whoa, whoa, whoa. Why is Miles typing so fast? He's pulling out his credit card. How is there smoke coming off of his keyboard?
Starting point is 01:09:05 Holy shit. how is there smoke coming off of this keyboard holy shit literally the keys are like flying up like yeah the keys are blowing off the actual keyboard uh it just reminds me like like you're talking like when they look at our the the ashes of our terrible society and they're like how did the like the modern world fall and like well at the end they were fucking monster tubes uh to distract themselves from the end of the world uh but you know they looked photorealistic i think they will look on that approvingly personally yeah that's like how do we right or it like said like millennia later or like the remnants of what survives of humanity like comes upon an old like a like an old sar or fucking demogorgon flesh a real toothy fleshlight right and they're like it's the new arc of the covenant for this next phase of humanity like please let us know what wisdom
Starting point is 01:09:57 do you have that's what like humanity is like that's the Jurassic Park, like, DNA sample that they pull to, like, regenerate humanity in, like, human park. Right. They're like, hey, there's some DNA in this flashlight. Oh, no. We can regrow a human. We can regrow the most loser piece of shit human. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:21 They're like, oh, they do not look like they looked in their pictures. Damn. Right. Hey hey what's up i'm right oh hey do you know where my flashlight is the uh the the big one is the dominoes have you seen this that they're like doing a mind ordering app where basically it's the dominoes app thank you you have to sign in you have to sign into the dominoes app. Thank you. You have to sign in. You have to sign into the Domino's app. You have to create a pizza that is your favorite pizza, all things that like you can do on the normal Domino's app.
Starting point is 01:10:54 And then you like stare at a pizza box and they claim that that like somehow is you using your mind to order the pizza like it it really doesn't make any sense they like but they again have given it way too much backstory uh the app is apparently like run by hawkins national laboratory so they're like you know what'd be a good backstory for this is if it was being powered by an institution that regularly abuses children. Like, that would be fun, right? You know, like our app.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Right. But ultimately, it is a device to get as much personal info as possible from you. And also, like, I don't know how they're going to use this. I just know that they will. Give dominoes access to your facial recognition data so they can, I don don't know who the fuck knows stare at it and then it asks you a series of questions do you support antifa and you're like
Starting point is 01:11:52 what is this hey just curious friend now that we're friends should you defund the police oh no it's donald trump's campaign infiltrating the Domino's Stranger Things app. But yeah, don't give Domino's your personal information. Also, ordering a pizza on the phone is still the best way to order pizza. I remember people like, oh, the app's so much easier. I love being high and calling some place and being like, hey, let me get a pizza. You are that pizza place's worst phone call. They're like oh god that miles guy is high again what is that guy a teenager no i went to his house the guy's like balding and
Starting point is 01:12:31 he's like middle age it's fucking sad he's so high he's so high though oh it's me they're like yeah yeah we're fine we'll get it there right now same credit card yeah no no i know i want to read you the numbers wait wait hold on oh no my mom's expired shit all right let me call you back i'll get you a phone i'll credit card real quick uh well chelsea as always truly a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist where can people find you follow you all that good stuff oh you can come on over to my podcast celebrity book club with chelsea davantes where i swear we read better books than hashtag girl boss but that is unfortunately that one's coming up and i'm on instagram at chelsea davantes where you can unfortunately see me about weddings until mine happens um and i'm on twitter where it gets a lot more
Starting point is 01:13:25 political also at chelsea davantez that it'll just be me tweeting at trump all day with his old handle like hey uh is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying oh yeah yeah there was one i i i gave it a retweet like five minutes before this podcast started it's podcast themed okay the the handle is at randy shart and she says me brutally murdered and found dumped on the side of the highway two 35 year old women with a podcast okay murder muffins it's murder time miles where can people find you what is the tweet you've been enjoying uh find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray. Also check out the other podcasts for 20 day fiance with Sophie, Alexandra.
Starting point is 01:14:27 We talk 90 day fiance and so high that I sound like I'm ordering a pizza straight from dominoes. And also check out miles and Jack got mad boosties and official NBA podcast where Jack and I just talk about the game we love, which is basketball. And the game we're great at. So great at that the NBA wanted to do a podcast with us. They were like, you could join the league. You guys are amazing at basketball.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Or just do a podcast. Maybe that'd be easier for you. And we were like, yeah, I guess we'll do that one. But they do officially co-sign that we have Mad Boosties. We can jump really high. Let's see. A couple tweets. Wow. Some tweets that i like
Starting point is 01:15:05 let me pull this up okay first one is from ellie cremendall at ellie cremendall tweeted i don't care how old you are summer break should be for everyone no work just popsicles and slip and slides and that would be nice i feel like that would probably solve a lot of ills. And then there's this other really fantastic thread by Ethan Gray. No relation because it's spelled G-R-E-Y. But, you know, this is somebody who was a Republican who like worked in, I guess, messaging, but talks a lot about the idea of like what Republican messaging even is. And to even be like to to call out hypocrisy completely misses what the actual ideology of the republican party is it's not that they're saying this is the same table we're eating at they're like no we're playing at this table where we make the rules and you don't tell us
Starting point is 01:15:55 what the rules are it's not about freedom however the fuck you're thinking about it so i'll just check my likes for that tweet or actually we'll put in the footnotes because it's very very extensive uh very interesting yeah and maybe maybe it doesn't make sense for mainstream democrats to always be trying to appeal to those people who aren't solving the same problem as us you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'Brien. A tweet I've been enjoying. Oldfriend99 said James Bond would be scarier if you didn't really see him in the movies like Jaws. That was like the premise that James Bond is aiming to be scary. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
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