The Daily Zeitgeist - Good RidTrends to Bad Rubbish 12/22: House of Gucci, Mountain Dew, Joe Manchin, NYC, Student Debt, Jen Psaki

Episode Date: December 23, 2021

In this edition of Good RidTrends to Bad Rubbish, Jack and special guest co-host Becca Ramos discuss the conundrum that is House of Gucci, Mountain Dew Gingerbread Snap'd, Joe Manchin being an 80's movie villain, NYC's Omicron woes, Student debt relief, and Jen Psaki's dismissal of at-home COVID tests. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball

just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of good rid trends to bad garbage or bad rubbish i am jack that is how i'm feeling about the year 2021 uh and i am joined by special guest co-host super producer becca ramos hello hello welcome Is this the first time? No, they've met you before, right?

This is the second time I'm doing trends. Okay, great. And then everyone will reintroduce during our wonderful holiday episode. Yeah, yeah. Which are upcoming. This is going to be the last sort of standard episode that you will be getting of the Daily Zeitgeist, but you will be seeing some nice year-end, some holiday episodes, content coming your way in the coming days. And we are going to go somewhere and I'm just going to bury myself in my backyard

and come out of my cocoon in the new year. Let's tell the people some of the things that are trending. We're actually going to use this to, you know, we promised that we would watch House of Gucci, talk about House of Gucci. Jamie Loftus was supposed to come on and then, you know, realized that she had to write Santa University and many other things. Earlier, we were going to talk about House of Gucci,

but we just never got around to it. But we are fortunate to have you and me, two people who have seen House of Gucci. And we just want to talk about it because I think it is, there's something unique about this movie. It's not like uniquely good or uniquely bad. So we talked previously about how Andrew T the week that it came out, uh,

had told miles, uh, given him a very ambiguous recommendation. He was like, I'm not sure if it's a comedy, uh, but you should definitely see it. And I have now seen it and I don't know how to like talk about this movie. I think the performances are both bad and also like their own type of art that I really

enjoyed while watching them. I don't know. What, like, what are, what were your thoughts? What was your experience? I really liked the movie, but I will never see it again because it was too long. They probably could have cut a whole hour out of the movie but i will never see it again because it was too long they probably could have cut a whole hour out of the movie my boyfriend and i went and saw it he picked like a 9 40 p.m show because we were both working late and we didn't get out till like 1 a.m and that was that was just

too much for me personally a little long but i wouldn't say it was a comedy but some of the roles aka uh what's his face jared leto jared leto uh you know he definitely took it to a comedy route that we didn't need that but lady gaga's performance it was worth it it was worth to see lady gaga do the role she really worked for it she's like trying to earn that oscar even though no one in that movie will let her have that oscar because they did so poorly but i felt like she was an absolutely incredible and enjoyable performance and she was in a movie that i feel like nobody else was it was like she was like this is a drama i'm taking this seriously i studied this role i'm italian and then everybody else in the movie was like we're having fun in italy and we're doing more of a thing of like people being italian for halloween more so than like a serious study

uh yeah i mean pacino was really i i'm gonna say i i think there were good performances and i even And I even enjoyed Jared Leto's performance because it is absurd. I like when a dumb guy plays a dumb guy. I've always felt like Jared Leto doesn't want to embrace his inner dumb guy. And it did feel like this was appropriate, tragic, pathetic. But the whole thing, like even adam driver's performance which i've heard a lot of people describe as bad it was like very very watchable for me yeah i would say you believe them as a couple you know you believe lady gaga's story i just wish i felt like there was just like a lot of dead air the last hour of the movie like they could have taken that last hour and done something else with the

storyline i felt like we built up and it was such a slow build and we could have probably cut that build in half and done way more of the trial like i feel like we just like came to the movie you know at the end it's like her finally getting sentenced, but it's like, we didn't have any interview scenes. We didn't have any, like, what was the trial intense? Like it just, it felt very, like it fell on its face a little bit. Yeah. I think that's a great note, Becca. I think you are right.

It is a, it's a really wild, like true story that I didn't. It's like one of those things where I was like, how did I not know this was happening as it was happening i'm older than you so like i should have been aware of this like you were probably weren't born yet but like i'm glad i got to see it dramatized but like the question of like did they do a good job is it a good movie uh i've like never felt less capable of answering those very basic questions about a movie i also don't like those questions about movies though i've always said like i think like the was it good like thumbs up thumbs downing of movies that's like besides the that's beside

the point like i just like watching movies i don't really care how like as long as they're successful at doing something to me and i feel like this is very successful in that. Yeah. It's like, I had a good time. I definitely like, don't regret seeing the movie. I enjoyed watching it. Like, I just, it's not going to be a repeat on my roster for sure. Like it was super long, but yeah, I agree with you.

I don't know if they did a good job or not because a i didn't know enough about the original story like i felt like it wasn't as sensationalized as maybe when ryan murphy did um the johnny versace story for the american crime stories and it felt like in the same vein and i kind of i guess walked into it assuming it would be as like dramatic as intense as that, even though like obviously Ryan Murphy had nothing to do with this production, but yeah,

it definitely, I was expecting something else I think out of the movie, but I joined it nonetheless. Yeah. And it is like Gucci is an omnipresent brand. Uh, Tom Ford is a name that I like certainly had heard a number of times, but like,

I didn't know it like fills in yeah it like fills in a chunk of like culture of like stuff that I see all over the place it like gives me a little backstory so I did love whoever they brought it I know nothing about Tom Ford besides the name Tom Ford but I did love like that arc of the storyline I thought he was fun you know someone from from texas i like had no idea that tom ford was like from austin and like that kind of pizzazz i thought that was a fun twist to the storyline but yeah agree all right speaking of things that uh i would recommend knowing fully well that a lot of people won't like them uh i did uh get to try as and uh jamie loft has also got to try at our

holiday lunch a mountain dew gingerbread cookie flavor i'm sure they have like some extreme name for it that's not mountain dew gingerbread cookie uh but it's something uh let me figure it out. But it's unsuccessful, I would say. But also, like it delivers on everything you would. Gingerbread, okay. You ready for what the extreme title is? I need to hear this, yes. Mountain Dew Gingerbread Snapped. Like Ginger Snaps.

Yeah, like Ginger Snaps, but also like a like axe murderer like that's it like snapped uh or i guess like people when they do well in sports people are like oh he snapped uh but uh you know they are referencing people going uh on a murder spree uh but all right that's one way to be extreme it could have used a little bit more bite could use a little more uh spicy uh ginger flavor but i applaud mountain dew it does deliver on the thing that all mountain dew uh you know variants uh seem to do which which is so filled with sugar that it actually becomes like, it starts like tingling your throat a little bit

and becomes its own form of spicy. So yeah, highly recommend both of those things. Go watch House of Gucci while pounding some gingerbread snapped. I'm not a soda soda fan so you know you guys try it at your own volition but I definitely will be

sticking to my water for the holidays staying hydrated out here there you go and then also mansion killed bill back better less important news than house of and Mountain Dew gingerbread snapped. Uh, yeah,

he demanded like means testing, tying age to like work requirements, all that Clintonian, you know, center Democrat shit that we've seen repeatedly not work. Um, you know putting the labor of the bureaucracy onto you know the poor or anyone looking for help from a social safety net he also uh those seems to

always kill or oppose climate change legislation uh and uh he does this while you know getting rich off of making money off of pollution it's like a reference that everyone will get it's like the bad guy in karate kid 3 everyone knows that right uh no but in that movie like there's a part where they are trying to make it clear that someone's a bad guy he's taking a a cell phone call in a hot tub and uh we join him mid conversation as he's like they can't tell me where i can and can't dump toxic sludge and then like hangs up on the person and that's like their shorthand for like hey this guy might be a bad guy he might be evil crazy right um and so uh mansion uh has a family-owned business uh that has made a small fortune selling waste coal from abandoned mines to heavily polluting power plants in the state so yeah that's he's like selling pollution to make pollution like that's what that's his business model. And we still let him be like the most important person in Congress.

I love that for us. I love that for the United States of America here. But the New York Times, you know, did a pretty like damning look at his record a couple of days back. you know, did a pretty like damning look at his record a couple of days back. But the thesis statement is still worded as, but left almost unsaid was the issue that has always propelled his political career as a democratic maverick colon climate change. Like, Oh, he's a maverick Democrat propelled by a strong stance on climate change it's not like they're like trying to hide the truth it's just like they're so they just can't i don't know

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I'm watching you outside of the window. Just, just what listen to the amber and lacy lacy and amber show on will ferrell's big money players network on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back uh and new york city uh is trying to pay people again uh for getting boosters uh that's right they're trying to bribe you into uh getting bill gates's vaccine yeah a hundred dollars yeah it's kind of wild yeah they did this um at the beginning of covid vaccines right they were giving i think like a hundred and two hundred dollars a person to get vaccinated but i find it interesting i i live in new york uh currently and i got this text i think it's the 692 692 has been the new york city government covid updates text and they i feel like are trying to promote this hundred dollars because new york is like on fire right now uh because of

omicron but i don't feel like this is going to solve the problem just like it didn't you know beforehand because 80 of new york i think and i, don't quote me on that. That's probably a step that needs to be double checked, but a lot of New York city is vaccinated. It's, it's more, they need to shut down. Like New York needs to stop letting people in bars. Yeah. Like the, the vaccine part isn't going to help. They need to stop the restaurants. Yeah, they probably do. I'm all for very basic things like we'll give you

a hundred dollars uh when people won't do the thing that will save people's lives uh and i'm assuming it would help a little bit to get everybody vaccinated but yeah they probably need to shut the fuck down absolutely go get vaccinated get vaccinated. Go get boosted. That's not me. I'm just being jaded in the sense that... No, we get it. You're an anti-vaxxer, Becca. You don't have to reverse course just because... I got that J&J and I've been told that people, you know, that I'm not really

vaccinated, but I got boosted. Okay? I got boosted. Also by J&J? Or what are we talking? No, I don't think they're even letting J&J do booster. I think talking? No, I don't think they're even letting J&J do Booster. I think they're like, honey, we made a mistake approving that one. You must get Pfizer or Moderna. And I got Pfizer.

That was our bad. Like my bad for letting you think you were safe with J&J. Yeah, yeah. You got to get the Pfizer or Moderna. That's it. Yeah. All right. Well, you know, everybody in New York, please, please, please stay safe.

You know, it's wild out there. It really seems to be just like tearing through the population. Hope you guys are all vaccinated and have access to whatever that medication is that you can take once you get COVID to make sure that your symptoms aren't severe. Right. That was the thing. I feel like I'm not hearing that much about that right now, but like, yeah, I wasn't sure if it was in like FDA testing. I don't know if it was like on the market, but it definitely was something they were trying to figure out. It was like Tamiflu, but for COVID. And I think it'll be a big game changer, obviously, for those who aren't able to get vaccinated or, you know, maybe believe in Tamiflu more than they believe in

vaccines. I don't know. We're on top of it. Like, I mean, if you get COVID, just throw everything at it, you know? Yeah, absolutely. That's right, though. They are still rolling out their marketing campaign around it. That'd be funny if that's what was holding it up they were like in marketing meetings like we just can't come up with the right name for it yeah uh so uh student debt is trending what's that what's everybody complaining about becca what's going on hashtag cancel student debt i'm in camp cancel student debt but basically there was a uh i don't know if it was a press conference but news was released that um joe biden is extending the student debt relief through may

2021 so you don't have to start paying back your federal student loans until may but it has started the course of conversation of if you can have pushed back student loans for almost two years now, then why can't you just cancel student debt? Like this has been this was something on his platform. So many like leftist people are incredibly frustrated with Joe Biden in his lack of accountability for, you know, doing the things that he promised on his campaign trail. And also, you know, this is a very centrist choice to make, but, and, and people like Senator Warren, you know, said she fought to, you know, get this, you know, motion passed,

but that she's not going to stop the fight for pushing for full student debt cancellation. So hopefully fingers crossed that in may we'll hear better news about canceling student debt, but at least you can feel a little bit of relief until then that, you know, you don't have to pay back your loans. How would you having your student loan debt canceled be fair to me, an aging boomer who paid $50 to go to a private school in the early

sixties? Literally. I, I am someone who is in student loan debt. It has not crippled my finances, luckily, but it is something that weighs on my soul, personally. And I think it's so frustrating and dumb that we let children, I mean, 17-year-olds make decisions about their future. I wish someone had slapped me on the wrist and said,

hey, go to community college and then transfer to a four-year school. And you would be in like probably $70,000 less debt than you are now. And no one tells you those things. They just let you sign on the dotted line your life away for the rest of your life. That's why we here at the Daily Zeitgeist recommend Prager University. Also, like kind of along the same lines, we got Jen Psaki, a hero to the cricket media listeners of the world, basically being like,

what are we supposed to do? Send everyone in America a fucking test? Like, get out of my face with this shit. Like, think about how much that would cost. It's just like, oh, that's that's not your job to think about how much that would cost. That's it. It's your job to like do important work for people when they need you to do that important work. Well, and it's also like, you know, we aren't charging for the vaccines, right? Like those are free. And in New York city's case, there are literally paying you to get vaccinated. And I did a drive-through test

here in Texas yesterday and it was free. And, you know, it was easy because no one's trying to get tested in Texas, but in places like New York city, where like people are trying to stay safe and do the right thing and get tested, It's three hour wait lines and city MD three hour wait lines anywhere you go. Like it's absolutely insane. And it is only right in the public health crisis that you would just like send all those people tests, especially if we're not charging for, you know, the vaccines and depending on where you go, like, it's like, if you want to get a rapid test from target, it's like $25. And like, if you can even get it, like it's 25 to a hundred dollars and you have to take time out of your day to find it.

Like either way, this is costing America so much money to try to just get tested and do the right thing for like the public health to get tested. It's insane. It is truly, uh, it doesn't make sense i was literally had the thought like last week i was thinking wait how is the government not just sending everyone a test right now we know this is coming we know like that everybody's going to be needing tests we're seeing like long lines to get tests like how how is this not something we're prepared for i'm ready to just send this shit out uh and we have our answer because uh sarcasm and

cost too much uh so yeah fuck fuck it all there was an update though that it says the federal government next month will start mailing at home covid test kits for free for any U.S. household that requests one. But like you just said, Jack, next month seems a little late for the giant outbreak that's coming from the East Coast that is swiftly going to move across the country. gonna move across the country and again you know it's like her tone did not suggest this was something that was under consideration and absolutely she wasn't like yeah okay what are we gonna do send all the tests right now next month obviously that's what we're planning to do but right now come on um all right well we have a story about Wheel of Fortune, which has been trending. But you know what? We are going to hold that for 2022. So you have to wait a couple of weeks to find out what we what we're thinking about 2022.

We are done recording for about a week and a half. We have some really fun holiday episodes coming up and then next week some year end episodes and we think you're going to really enjoy those. We will miss you, but we will also just

be resting and come back rejuvenated. So I think that is going to do it for the Daily Zeitgeist the regular episodes from the year 2021 uh we're back tomorrow uh with holiday content next week with year end content uh the week after that back on it the tuesday after that don't be hitting me on the third. We're taking the Monday of the third off. So leave us alone. But we're back on the fourth.

We're making some predictions for the year. Very fun episodes. And then back after that Miles in the house again. So until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get a test. Get the vaccine if you haven each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get a test.

Get the vaccine if you haven't already. Stay in the house. Stay in the house. Wear a mask. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all in 2022. Bye. Bye.

Bye. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese,

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.