The Daily Zeitgeist - GOP Can’t Shake It Off, Big Bird Vs. Elmo Who Ya Got? 01.31.24

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

In episode 1616, Jack and Miles are joined by host of HeidiWorld: The Heidi Fleiss Story, Molly Lambert, to discuss… The Taylor Swift Fear Mongering Continues At A Wild Pace…, The Internet Just Tr...auma Dumped On Elmo and more! Newsmax Host: Idolizing Taylor Swift Is Against Jesus OAN Host: The Super Bowl Is A Massive Liberal Psyop The Internet Just Trauma Dumped On Elmo Elmo's Mental Health Check-up Tweet There's a perfectly reasonable explanation for Big Bird's unfolding horror #HelpBigBird Tweet LISTEN: Zip & A Double Cup by Juicy J, 2 ChainzSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you
Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 323 episode 3 of dirt ailey's i guys stay production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into american shared consciousness and start out coming in a little hot but then i adjust the volume on my mic although that might be a little turn me up why justin i'm so sorry yeah our super producer justin steps away for a moment is like hey can you guys handle this shit just like start start the recording off without me and i'm like fucking with level immediately just fuck the bed i'm peaking i'm peaking I'm peaking. I'm peaking. I'm peaking. Anyways, I forget how far I got, but it is Wednesday, January 31st, 2024.
Starting point is 00:02:12 How the fuck is it still January? It's over. How is this possible? It's over. It's over. And we're on the precipice of Black History Month. Limping across the finish line. And I think, what, this is a leap year too
Starting point is 00:02:25 wasn't it yeah yeah so we're gonna be about to get 29 is gonna be long yeah i blame the months and the years nothing to do with our circumstances or anything like that it's just god this january was too long guys dang it well guess what dang it it is january 31. That means it's National Hot Chocolate Day. It's Inspire Your Heart with Art Day. And National Backward Day. What up? This feels like an elementary school teacher's day today. Yeah. It's like, we're going to have hot cocoa.
Starting point is 00:02:58 We're going to inspire your heart with some art. We're going to do stuff a little bit backwards. Yeah. I wore my smock. I wore my art smock backwards. Do you remember in elementary school when you did an art project, the art smocks would be the most fucked up t-shirts they've been using for 20 years
Starting point is 00:03:13 to put over your clothes, and they all fucking just smell weird and shit. That's one of my most dominant memories about doing art in elementary school was having to wear a shitty t-shirt over my clothes like a t-shirt worn by someone in the 50s oh yeah yeah who's like dead now yeah like just little holes of paint yeah like one of the students that was killed at like kent state
Starting point is 00:03:36 like clothing they were wearing somehow made it into like a donation box of a lutheran elementary school and i'm wearing that to finger paint to theivaldi. Well, my name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack 5 Freddy, a.k.a. Five Nights Jack 5 Freddy. That was a.k.a.'s courtesy of Miles and our guest today, because I didn't have one coming in, but we were talking about me being an old head. Mr. Hip Hop.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I think DJs need to cart the big thing of vinyl around with them because I can hear the warmth of the vinyl. The needle drop. I can hear it. Yeah. It's on the old head. Oof. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Miles Gray, a.k.a. Dreams, dreams, dreams. D-d-d-d-dreams. I want to get high. I can't get too high dreams dreams dreams i wanna dream so i can't get too high balancing my eyes so i can dream anyway that's to the tune of dreams by beck that's some latter day back shit right yeah it's for the real back heads if you're still fucking with that track and shout out to a singer full 1229 on the discord for that because i am balancing my high so i can dream uh i had a dream this i'll just i'll let y'all in on one of my my
Starting point is 00:04:58 last dream i had this morning or this last night my son the guy's child he has this thing where he cannot pet our dog without just fucking grabbing a bunch of the fur and being like what's up homie but like because he's still learning how to do like be gentle gentle and we're always like come on gentle gentle or like in japanese and he my dream was my dog rimby was petting the Geist Child very gently. And I was like, oh, there you go. And I had it all inverted in my brain anyway. So that's where I'm at with my dreams. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah. Your dreams are like so concrete. Your dream world is really producing for you. It's just like, here is a visual metaphor. It's what you're thinking. You're like, yeah. Here's a contained visual metaphor for you. Easy.
Starting point is 00:05:43 My dreams are so weird and they're just like parts of my unconscious leaking into other parts it doesn't doesn't make sense can't even like put it into words yeah it happens that's just how like sick they are man i'm probably like ignoring all the other stuff around like the environment i'm like well i was in a burning plane um and there were nazis in the cockpit But I was just like, yeah, I guess I forgot about the texture of it. I just saw the pet petting my baby all night. I mean, that's a beautiful thing. Miles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:12 We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant and talented writer and podcaster who's written for publications like the New York Times, the New Yorker, the New York Review, GQ. She was a co-host of the legendary podcast girls and hoodies and night call the writer creator and host of the legendary podcast heidi world the heidi fly story please welcome back to the show molly lambert uh molly lambert aka molly the mini horse oh not a stallion mini horse short are your feet big not a pony big feet uh no okay but um but i you know i'm
Starting point is 00:06:58 big of spirit yeah of course of course yeah that's jack did you ever end up hearing the nikki minj track about... Because, I mean, first of all, making this sound definitely cooked Nicki Minaj when her track hissed. But then Bigfoot is just... It's now evolved into a cause for concern for people who are like, ooh.
Starting point is 00:07:16 It's a cause for concern. I do... The thing that I was enjoying was Drake's responses to getting called out for having etched on abs. Yeah. Exactly. He keeps posting. All of his posts on Instagram are like,
Starting point is 00:07:33 I'm not mad. I'm laughing, actually. Yeah. They're like, thank you for reminding me that I love myself and I'm amazing. And I couldn't have done that without you without ever addressing me again just being like, yeah
Starting point is 00:07:50 I guess I'm so amazing that it makes people uncomfortable and that's, you know. And he's wearing all these like big suits, all these like, stop making sense big suits. Yeah, I was gonna say he's going full David Byrne. Yeah, he's like the latest one, was he wearing like a big white coat or something recently he's wearing like that's like his thing
Starting point is 00:08:08 right now is posting a shot in like this big suit it kind of also looks like like when jordan was wearing big suits right but that was the time you know yeah jordan was wearing big suits for the last 40 years of his life. And then the captions are all like, I actually love my haters. Yeah. It's so funny when people get cooked and then they do like, I actually think this is funny. Like, actually. You are funny to me.
Starting point is 00:08:39 That's the universal white flag. You know what I mean? Drake has fully been doing the like, I'm not owned at all actually i'm laughing yeah i'm actually just leased i'm not owned so it just appears that way but it's a lease um it's temporary how could i be owned if i'm laughing so hard and there's just like tears streaming down his face into his giant coat there is like i've always seen the giant coats on the runways and i've been
Starting point is 00:09:07 expecting for them to like make it over you know you know the ones i'm talking about that are like five inches beyond your hands like those yeah have you ever seen those on the runway yeah like i i'm expecting them to eventually cross over maybe drake will be the one who finally makes it happen the The Stop Making Sense suit. Well, remember Kyle Kuzma was wearing super long-sleeved sweaters and stuff, and people were like, you look like that scene in Beetlejuice.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Yeah. It's a thing the fashion industry has been like, no, but for real this time, guys. This is absolutely... I've definitely seen some people rock it, but it's never trickled all the way down also one of drake's responses i want to just read it please i spend my mornings that start at 2 p.m preoccupied trying to check off the lists i prepare every night if you're looking for a
Starting point is 00:09:58 good morning text at 11 a.m i am not your guy no wow i sent to my friend and she said he's got a kid yeah he only loves his bed and his mom I'm sorry and I love being like I wake up at 2pm and it's actually a flex yeah it's like I'm a dad because I have depression
Starting point is 00:10:20 there's some other wild ones where he was like making his like weird cocktail he drinks all the time. And then like, like just it was like him alone in his big mansion. And he's just like, dude, you are so fucking sad, dude. Just please just leave us all alone with this sad boy content. It's so wait, just to so I get the sequence of events. Correct. So Megan talked about his painted on abs in her distress.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Her response to Nikki. She responded to everybody.bbs in her distress, her response to Nikki. She responded to everybody. Everybody. In her song Hiss. Okay. And then everybody responded back in various states of distress. Yeah. Nikki Minaj sort of telegraphed most of the bars she had through tweets before dropping the tracks. Everyone's like, yeah, we've read the tweets but then there's like a lot of mumbling it's like it it's in the so this came before the nicki minaj yeah the latest nicki
Starting point is 00:11:11 all right yeah but they've been you guys have to catch me up i'm five jack freddy or i know man this is old school and you're like hold on this is mickey minaj yeah they were raising they were raising the roof jack love yeah i him. I call him Nick. Nick Minotch. Yeah, exactly. Mickey Minotch, man. I just remember when we were fighting for our right to party, you know, with that brass monkey.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Just going to the fever. It seems like one of those things, though, where sometimes a rap beef is like good for everyone involved because then spurs them all to greatness. Yeah. Yeah. That's why Drake is is like thank you actually thank you i'm gonna cry in my big suit and drink aperol spritzes or whatever he calls them that's what he gets for doing the eminem thing of only coming for women yeah we're not coming for anyone who is right only women and moby yeah i'm tough watch me come after these ladies and vegan guy i also saw there was like eminem was at the uh one of the like the detroit lions game and yeah they like cut to him in the
Starting point is 00:12:23 crowd i just saw like a clip of them of him in the crowd and he looks exactly like when mariah carey dressed up as him in the obsessed video he has become he has turned into the mariah's prophecy yeah because his beard looks painted on yeah because it is because he's dying his beard for sure yeah it's just like it's just such a weird look like why do you have don't have a beard just like you know dye and bleach it out yeah people like or just let let us see your little baby face marshall yeah yeah doesn't he doesn't he look just like now can we pull up mariah in the obsessed video yeah i was just trying to find the Mariah in the Obsessed video.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah, someone was like, he looks less like Eminem and more like Eric. Yeah, there we go. He just looks like a dude named Eric. He always looks like Eric. Oh, man. She kind of looks like Afion Crockett pretending to be cosplaying as Eminem there.
Starting point is 00:13:23 That's a very... And I, of course, know whoem there. That's a deep cut. I, of course, know who that is. That's a deep cut. If you know, you know. Shout out to those that do. Alright, we're going to get to know you, Molly, a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners
Starting point is 00:13:37 a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to just talk about Taylor Swift because that's what the media is doing now. There's nothing really to talk about, but it's just like there's so much energy and interest there that they've created a conspiracy that has now spanned a couple of days of the news cycle. It makes zero sense. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about everybody trauma dumping on Elmo. So we'll check in with that. Plenty more. But first, Molly, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Wow. Guess who prepared for the first time ever?
Starting point is 00:14:13 Not you. No, it was me. It was me. I did. I was going to guess that, but Miles guessed not you. I was like, no, not you. Don't tell me that. All I do is look at TikTok now. And my latest search on TikTok was for cool animals. Oh, I love
Starting point is 00:14:33 cool animals. I love that shit. Hey, cool animals. Whenever it shows me too many people, I talk to it. I'm like, cute, funny animals. What do you come? What do you got?
Starting point is 00:14:46 Did you see anything new? A binturong. A what? A binturong. A binturong. Look it up. You ever seen a binturong? They're so cute and weird.
Starting point is 00:14:56 They are. Wow. It's like a little, like a raccoon thing. Yeah. It's a cool animal. Wow. Binturongs all day this is what tiktok so i i just asked the tiktok of my generation google for cool animals and they
Starting point is 00:15:23 didn't give me shit yeah Yeah, Google sucks now. I will say actually, the Google image search has been ruined by AI. Have you guys noticed this? Yeah. If you look for something now, you can look for anything
Starting point is 00:15:38 on Google image search, which used to be good. And now all it shows you is AI generated images from all these free AI generating sites that it's like, Oh, you wanted to see like a picture of like Jesus drinking a cup of coffee. Here's like a hundred AI generated,
Starting point is 00:15:58 you know, you, you can use them. Wait, really? Yeah. You can hardly find the real picture of Jesus drinking a cup of coffee. Jesus working as barista.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Let's see. But yeah, this shit is all real basic. They don't have been to wrong. Is that what it is? Been to wrong? Yeah, been to wrong. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Like open art. Yeah. It really did just serve me a fucking dumb ass picture of a guy with great hair and a beard with a just working on something yeah that's what happens it just shows you this open ai thing where it's like oh you want to see this thing we'll make it for you and then you can use it for free and they're all terrible they're all yeah terrible ai combinations of like images in this one jesus is wearing heavy eyeliner for some reason because you you wear eyeliner in the desert to keep it out of your eyes keep the sweat out of your eyes exactly oh it makes sense to me yeah earliest form of eye black
Starting point is 00:16:58 was just the thick eye makeup for jesus but obviously a lot of people don't know jesus was rocking eye black out there in the desert. Like John Randall, the Viking style, all over his face. Another washed reference for them out there. What is, Molly, something that you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Overrated? I'm going to say wine. The beverage wine. Speaking of Jesus. The beverage wine. Yeah, more like sleepy time. I'm going to say wine. The beverage wine. Speaking of Jesus. The beverage wine. Yeah. More like sleepy time. Do you ask when you go to a restaurant, do you say, do you have any of the beverage wine? Yeah. I mean, presumably not since you think it's overrated.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Do you have my least favorite soda, wine? Wait, what's your beef with wine? What happened? I just don't like it. I don't think it's good. I just don't like it i don't think it's good i think it's like i don't get it it's like one of those things are like when you you'll develop an adult taste for it and i just never have right yeah same it feels like they invented it it was one of the first things they invented to get people drunk and people were like well i like being drunk a lot and so we'll like invent this whole system of meaning around like the different yeah i can't tell the difference unpleasant
Starting point is 00:18:12 unpleasant flavors you know and yeah it's just been coasting off of the inertia of being one of the first things people invented to get drunk off of people just also people love the like all the different kinds and i truly cannot tell the difference between any of them. I think they all taste the same and not very good. If Mike's Hard had been invented in biblical times, do you think that Mike's Hard would be much bigger than wine? Oh, Christ's Hard Lemonade? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah, Christ's Hard Lemonade. Christ's Blood Lemonade? Yeah. Oh, that's the raspberry one. That one's good as fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Christ's heart lemonade. Christ's blood lemonade. Yeah. Oh, that's the raspberry one. That one's good as fuck. Yeah. Yeah. This is when he's jaundiced.
Starting point is 00:18:50 The yellow one. We put that one in the cup for everybody for the Eucharist. Sitting in that desert too long without the eye black. Maybe if they put a little Diet Coke in the Eucharist cup, people would be more into it. Oh, yeah. Diet Coke and red wine. Yeah. Shout out to my buddy craig who that's all
Starting point is 00:19:06 he drank what's that shit called in spain oh yeah i don't know cali mocho that's he he he told me he invented it no i is he white oh yeah yeah he might not have told me. I just thought he did. He brought it back to America. Right, exactly. I wonder if when Jesus was in the desert and Satan was tempting him, if one of the things he offered him that got cut out was eye black. Just to, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:36 produce the glare a little bit. Or, like, ice water. Ice water. I think water might have been one of the things. I feel like Satan's makeup beat must be amazing. Oh, yeah. Satan is laid to the gods. Oh, all the way.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Geesh to the gods. When Lucifer gets that geesh on, get the fuck out the way. When people talk about the sassy man epidemic, that's what I imagine Lucifer is like. Oh, yeah. Sassiest. Lucifer would be would be like just like don't come for me ho i will fucking i will fuck your whole shit up like that's kind of lucifer's thing was like if you leave me alone i'm good i'm not gonna come for you but if you want to say some shit i will fucking burn your whole shit down with this mouth when jesus was serving bread and wine lucifer was serving cunt. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:26 He's done it. He's done it. I did it. I did it right, right? Five Jack Freddy. What's something you think is underrated? I'm going to say water. Plain water.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I think is underrated as a beverage. I think people. Are you on that water talk? Well, I think the water talk where people put stuff in water yeah it's like absolutely baffling to me or the people get the big the stanley cups and they make like drinks with powders and yeah yeah yeah pills and potions truly i'm like why would you can't improve on the taste of water but that's the thing a lot of those people like i can't stand that water has no flavor what the fuck are you doing yeah like oh the building block of life
Starting point is 00:21:11 isn't good enough for you you fucking maniacs and they're just like dumping like sugar like like aspartame in it make it taste more like diet coke right i think nice glass of water if you're in the desert better than wine yeah i would be mad if jesus turned it into a wine i'd be like give me back that water hey can you turn this back actually dude we're like dehydrated get so dehydrated in the desert he keeps turning it into wine also it's like a pinot noir man this thing's fucking full body dude like you can't tell Can't tell the difference. I can tell certain things where I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:49 oh, this shit got... This is a lot. You know what I mean? Versus this one's lighter. But yeah, I don't have... To your point, I always thought I would eventually be on that wine shit, but I just don't. It just hasn't quite come for me. I'm not hating on it. That's the thing about a lot of alcohol is that they're like oh
Starting point is 00:22:05 you'll you'll get it when you're older you'll understand you know you'll develop a taste for it no no no tastes like gasoline give me them terpenes i'll tell you about those you know what i mean i can fucking i'll walk you through those give me them terpenes you'll start to like the taste when you get sadder and need this to make you less sad yeah no it just makes me sleepy right yeah wine was never my thing i don't understand how people drink it out out in public because it's also i'm just like then it's like nap time a red wine yeah just give me a fucking glass of nyquil you know give me a pillow sleepy time tea give me a fucking pillow over my face did you see the thing about uh white women gentrifying lean oh my god yes i saw they couldn't believe yes did she put the jolly ranchers in
Starting point is 00:22:55 everything was yeah there's been a thing there's been a lot of stuff about this like the sleepy time mocktail which i definitely do also do with the tart cherry juice i think i talked about on the show before yeah and somebody was like check out this sleepy girl mocktail it's robitussin and sprite i'm like wow also like it's not pro-math it's not that walk you know what i mean that's when you'll know when they're like y'all i got this it's my new brand activists this is the one that's so hard to get like a white woman taking advantage of the fact that like lean isn't being really mass produced like the way it was artisanal lean are they drinking out styrofoam cups yeah gotta have a double cup gotta have a double cup yeah yeah when my kids ask mom what's in the cup like lil wayne i don't know if you heard if you guys
Starting point is 00:23:43 remember that anyway so that's what i do but have you seen like when you go i was at the pharmacy recently and i noticed a small placard that's like yo starting like on this day like we will no longer have fucking cough syrup just so you know like we are not carrying that shit anymore i don't know if that's all over the place you white women yeah yeah you know taylor swift's got that lean up in her cup oh my god can you imagine she just needs a zip and a double cup she needs a zip and a double cup
Starting point is 00:24:09 she's getting high as fuck I'm getting high as fuck well let's uh speaking of Taylor Swift and getting high as fuck let's take a quick break and we're gonna come back and uh just huff on this Taylor Swift controversy some new Taylor Swift. This is nonstop.
Starting point is 00:24:27 We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and
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Starting point is 00:27:42 And we're back. We're back. We're back. And this Taylor Swift story just won't quit. People have some theories as to how the Chiefs made it to the Super Bowl. I mean, the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, they've made it only four of the last five Super Bowls. How could they have possibly gotten here? I was going to say, I mean, I'm not an NFL fan, but like at the beginning of the season, would it have been absolutely absurd to think that the Chiefs would have gotten close to being in the Super Bowl? No, they would have been the favorite or one of the favorites. They won the fucking championship last year.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Exactly. I love that. They're like, yo, man man this whole fucking shit's engineered so we touched on the frantic screamings uh of the right after the chiefs booked their ticket to the super bowl and you know we talked about the all these conspiracies that came out vivek ramaswamy was like you'll see this completely fake propped up engineered duo to help Joe Byron. It'll, it'll, you'll see the impact it'll have in a few months. And now it's only gotten like more momentum since then. I thought it would just be like,
Starting point is 00:28:52 okay, in passing, like you just want to say something about the fear of Taylor Swift, but on Newsmax, they really went to an interesting level with a combination of satanic panic and antisemitism, George Soros, bookie man kind of shit. an interesting level with a combination of satanic panic and anti-semitism george soros bookie man kind of shit allison steinberg who has a show on newsmax uh regurgitated basically a combination of ramaswami's tweet like almost word for word which is very weird i was like
Starting point is 00:29:16 you're saying the vivek ramaswami tweet but pretend passing it off as your own words and also a combination of like the debunked pentagon nato psyop where taylor swift was seen as an asset that we also talked about a couple weeks ago where that was merely like just not even it was hypothetical about how a celebrity would use their influence on the internet and i think they also talked to you some game of thrones characters as an example but anyway uh let's just allow her to first let people know how, like, what's really going on here? What are the Democrats really trying? What's their end game here with all this Taylor Swift crap? Guys buy and can't seem to turn off.
Starting point is 00:29:57 The question is, with the wide open border and millions of illegals pouring in daily, the stealing at the ballot boxes and censoring conservative news and Republican incumbents being removed from the ballot and financing Nikki Haley and so on. Why do the powers that be need this dynamic duo to sway the vote? Don't they have enough dirty tricks up their sleeves as it is? Think about it. If Taylor Swift is really owned by Soros, we might actually have a rare chance to unite against him using taylor swift as the trojan horse instead of pushing the alphabet mafia and murdering of babies to her fans she should be warning about the dangers of the corrupt elites anyway goes on there wow this this all has to do with the fact that like soros apparently was like or his one of his
Starting point is 00:30:42 companies was an investor in buying her catalog yeah what's crazy is that Taylor Swift also posted something once that was kind of dog whistling about Soros and people were like oh man like Taylor why didn't they show that clip yeah she's on your side kind of she knows what's up we just heard about the new world order yeah so i don't know like what exactly you know that was her take um and then greg kelly who we also talked about a couple like i think last week when trump had misidentified nikki haley as nancy pelosi and he was like actually he was deploying his senility tactically to highlight pelosi's role in January 6th and really spun that shit. He's trying a more, as I would say, Christ-based attack on Taylor Swift and why she needs to be ignored. Or at least people need to be warned about, you know, H-E-double hockey sticks if you go down this road with Taylor. I kind of have a problem, though, with the hardcore Taylor Swift fans.
Starting point is 00:31:42 They are totally over the top worshiping this woman. Have you seen any of the pictures of her in concert? I wouldn't go myself. I don't do that kind of thing anymore. But I think what they call it is they're elevating her to an idol. Idolatry.
Starting point is 00:32:00 This is a little bit what idolatry, I think, looks like. And you're not supposed to do that. In fact, if you look it up in the Bible, it's a sin. So, I don't like that. You're not supposed to do that. I like how he just lost the train of thought.
Starting point is 00:32:16 He just so... He acts like he just invented the term pop idol there. Where he just heard it for the first time. I don't know i'm really making a lot of sense to me like wow you fear that yeah are you are you worried about the state of your soul um in eternity molly as you well it's like like pop idols and i was like wow worshiping false idols yeah go on damn go on greg kelly That's what I'm saying. It's like, sir, y'all worship at the altar of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Well, it's also funny that they're like, yeah, normally we like football, but now. Yeah. Football's bad. We love the racist name, the problematically named football team from Missouri. Right. And the white guy. They're like this Kansas City team with the racist name is too woke. Right. And the white guy. They're like this Kansas, Kansas city team with the racist name is too woke.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Right. Right. I think they're right to connect this to idolatry and the idea that Taylor Swift and like big stars have come to replace. We've talked about this idea before but like the the size and fervor with which people are devoted to their favorite musicians like we saw a bunch of people like driving their favorite musician to like number one like voting basically just like playing the thing playing their songs over and over again as a form of devotion to like, I think it was Britney Spears over the weekend and Nikki, but like that is a new,
Starting point is 00:33:49 yeah. And then Nikki, obviously. Fans of Jesus are the original barbs. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But that has gone as that has gone down.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And as more and more people identify as like no religion, this is kind of what has come in to replace it. Like Star Wars fandom, Taylor Swift fandom. And I don't think they're wrong. I just think they're wrong to be so upset about it because they're doing the exact same thing with Donald Trump. People shouldn't worship famous people, but they're like, you're worshiping the wrong famous people.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Worship this fuck face, please. Right. You worship our. Yeah, no, I know because I saw people to being like, what? I'm shocked. Why don't MAGA people love Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, the all American prom queen and king kind of thing. But, you know, it's also Travis Kelsey did a vaccine commercial. You mean Mr. Pfizer?
Starting point is 00:34:48 He's Mr. Pfizer. That's what they call him, yeah. So they do think this is kind of a brand alignment. Now, I'm going to put on my tinfoil hat here. Go ahead. There are people who do think the Taylor and Travis thing is sort of a PR stunt. Sure. They're moving really fast.
Starting point is 00:35:04 That wouldn't surprise me. Well, I'll tell you my real opinion, my non-crazy real opinion. Okay. It's that she's trying to get back at her ex-boyfriend. Which one? The racist guy? No, it's Joe Alwyn, the British guy. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:21 She was in a relationship. Not the racist guy. She was in a relationship. That was her first attempt to get back at the boyfriend. She was in a relationship for six years that she thought, I think, was going to culminate in marriage, and then instead, he dumped her, and she's very hurt, but she's also Taylor Swift, so she's like, I'm going to use my huge public platform to make him feel bad and then instead i think it's sort of maybe making that ex-boyfriend think he made the right decision
Starting point is 00:35:53 because he was the one who didn't like all the publicity stuff right that goes along with the taylor swift circus and i think she's kind of acting out what she would like to be happening in her personal life and and her and travis kelsey are kind of oh shit because because like it makes sense everybody just everybody seeing all these taylor swift friends like freaking out about them kissing on the field you know after the game and being like he's gonna propose yeah when the chiefs win he's gonna propose on the field and then somebody else was like y'all they've been dating for four months right yeah right you know and like i do think her whole thing is this kind of fantasy image of like you know falling in love and and being like the perfect all-american gal but like she's gotta know on
Starting point is 00:36:48 some level that like you can't marry somebody you've only been dating for four months even if america wants you to yeah that's already like we already know what that album sounds like like rushing it after four months kind of shit but that just seems like a thing you do after you've been in a long-ass relationship that you thought you were going to be settled down and then you're like okay i'm ready to be fucking settled down who's around like who's the next person yeah like i'm ready to get married and and that guy didn't want to marry me so like oh this football player might want to marry me because as a brand alignment it makes a lot of sense for both of us and uh he's a athlete who might want to retire and then he could be mr taylor swift and he seems to be the first of her boyfriends
Starting point is 00:37:31 ever who really likes being mr taylor swift which is a big thing she needs in somebody is that they have to be willing to like be a fucking idiot for her publicly you know she doesn't want a private relationship she wants a public relationship and he's a football star yeah i think that's one of the unique skills that she has is that she is a public figure like to her core right she's not there's no no part of her that is like i'm i'm secretly a private person but i'm like playing this role i think that like any feelings she has for him are like tied up with understanding what that would like i feel like she's camera aware when she's in a room by herself yes definitely and i think she's very. And so she needs everybody to see that a man wants to kiss her in front of everybody.
Starting point is 00:38:28 You know, I think you don't get that famous unless you're seeking validation. She seems like she's seeking the public's validation of like, yeah, I'm awesome. Right. Everybody wants me to be their girlfriend because I'm the best. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. wants me to be their girlfriend because i'm the best right yeah yeah i mean yeah with the republicans too like it seems like a lot of this i mean and i that analysis i wish they would do
Starting point is 00:38:53 that they like starting to be like just reading her to be like that's how they're gonna get her to go the other way they're like we know what's up taylor like you want this to work so bad no i mean i know what's up which is i think she wants joe allwin to see these clips of her like you know spinning around on the field kissing this other guy and be like damn i fucked up right you know he's like english he's like there's only one football love yeah and she's like do you like this how's this joe he did something amazing which is that on her birthday when everybody was like expecting him to look you know looking to see if he would post something on her birthday he posted a pro-palestine thing that was oh wow just because he knew there'd be so much attention joe allwin yeah interesting yeah
Starting point is 00:39:36 like i think he's you know because people are also like oh he kind of like tamped down that part of her that's like needs the validation all the time. And that's why she was kind of quiet for a few years. And then when they broke up, it's like the part of her that needs that public exposure just went crazy. And right. And it's happened before where she's gotten so overexposed that people are like sick of her. And she's definitely headed that direction again. No matter what. what so but we just
Starting point is 00:40:08 need it to last till november and then go back into the shadows if the team loses if they don't get to the super bowl and they don't win the super bowl like that relationship's over right are they taking are people taking prop bets she leaves him for the quarterback of the 49ers? No, I mean, I think she's also doing... I do think this was sort of a publicist setup in the first place, you know? That they were like, he allegedly was trying to get a famous girlfriend all year and was hitting up Megan Thee Stallion, apparently. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah, like he was allegedly trying to become famous, has this publicist. That's why he hosted SNL. He wanted to be a name brand. And dating Taylor Swift, incredible way for everyone to do that. So I think even if they are a little bit playing it up for the cameras, they seem to like each other
Starting point is 00:41:07 enough. A plus to that publicist. I think it's like it's been pointed out that they both date, like they're not each other's usual types. Sure. She dates little British guys. I mean, Molly Lambert, one of the great profilers
Starting point is 00:41:24 and thinkers on celebrity, we're so lucky to have you for this conversation. I did not know about the Travis Kelsey, the idea that Travis Kelsey was like on a Make Me Famous tour and even considered dating Megan Thee Stallion for a while. Is that like Dumas or where is that coming from? I mean, yeah, basically, you know. You have your sources, yeah. I have my sources. Sure. Yeah, I mean, people said there's somebody else he was trying to date.
Starting point is 00:41:54 People said basically he was looking to become a household name. He's got a podcast, as we all know, with his brother. He's trying to become a sports personality who's more you know who's famous on top of being an athlete so that when he's not in the nfl anymore he can be like a famous sports personality who's on tv that's why he hosted snl because he's you know wants people to think oh he's funny for an athlete he's kind of cool for an athlete he's smart for a football player honestly his podcast is pretty funny well i mean yeah look i haven't listened to it the call jack you simply must i like to dip
Starting point is 00:42:32 into athlete podcasts i listened to tom brady's podcast ones because i just how i imagined it in my head was being tom brady being like tom brady brain don't work so good right mouth work fine but you know he talked about he said stuff about football he kind of had I was like oh he's got I guess I've never heard him talk he just looks like such a dummy that I assumed he would sound like one right Travis Kelsey is like I'm cool for a football player I'm not like the other players he's not like the other players he's funny he was good on snl also but like it's definitely like you know there's managers and agents involved in this that that part's not made up yeah right right right yeah because i mean like you you know that
Starting point is 00:43:17 publicists and stuff will be like here's a menu of options to keep you in the news which one would you like to do you know yeah and i think her her first attempt to get back at the ex-boyfriend which was dating maddie healy from the 1975 like didn't work and blew up in everybody's face kind of because he kept saying out-of-pocket things unclear how their relationship ended either she dropped him because of the ice spice stuff or he just disappeared because the heat got too hot and then comes this opportunity to date a football player who is very famous and all-american and she's obsessed with looking like like she can keep a man that's like her main because people that are she's never been in therapy famously and i saw you because people that are, she's never been in therapy, famously. And I saw, you know, people that are her fans saying, oh, well, you know, she's broke, got out of this six-year relationship.
Starting point is 00:44:12 She should really take some time to work on herself before she gets in a serious relationship again. She should, like, you know, be with herself, be with, see what she wants. And she doesn't do that. She doesn't fucking do that. She was like. She just conquers the world. She just needs a boyfriend because she needs everyone to know that she's like hot and desirable.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And that's the way that she conveys it to the world. Cause she's like the most heteronormative person on earth. You know, she's like, no one will know I'm hot unless i'm dating a big hot football player this big chunk of beef man yeah oh i mean i think she's like addicted to the idea of being in love to an extent that maybe it doesn't even really matter who the guy is you know which i think is a lot of people are just kind of like well i want to be married so who who's gonna marry me right i mean just but just this like with the whole obsession with the right on taylor it's like really i'm still trying to figure out like
Starting point is 00:45:13 what the fuck is going on that's what's funny it's like her fans are like wow you know fairy tale love she never gives up on love and now she and travis are in love right wing people are like she's a succubus she's an unmarried woman in her 30s and she's all used up and her eggs are dying that's what i saw from the right wing was being like she encourages abortions and he's mr vaccine and together they're leading people away from the light of Christ over to the dark side. Yeah, the dark side of woke-ism. And they're like, you guys can't use this all-American bullshit.
Starting point is 00:45:53 That's our thing. Right. I mean, a lot of the angst seems to be coming from this poll too recently that came out that said 18% of voters, not just Taylor Swift fans, of voters, said they would probably support whoever Taylor Swift supported. And then it also said that 17% would be put off by a candidate that Swift
Starting point is 00:46:13 supported. So like on Fox, you're like, well, that just cancels each other out. So we don't have to worry about this. We don't have to worry about this, but I don't, I mean, whatever that's there, there's like this really interesting fear and like i feel like this desperation about talking about it feels like twofold right one is they're hell bent on winning by any means in november so anything that could introduce any sort of wobble to their confidence is like fucking existential because they absolutely like you see all the fucking think tanks going all in on project 2025 and being ready to be like yeah let's just fucking flip the switch on the dark side like this november yeah and she also used to stay out of it that was like the thing was she used to not ever say anything about politics because uh allegedly her dad is like a trump voter you know and she didn't want to stir the pot and so so then she
Starting point is 00:47:03 got attacked from all sides when she wasn't saying anything where people are like oh it's because she's secretly trump voter it's because she is a biden voter but doesn't want her trump voter fans to know that because it'll affect album sales but doesn't seem to have done anything no i mean i think she you know she came out and said a couple of... She capitulated. Yeah. She said, yeah. She says as little as she possibly can for it not to be a thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Right. But you can't say nothing and have it not be a thing. She knows a lot of her fans are these kind of like Christian Karens too, where she's like, they don't need to know that I'm like an adult city girl who believes in abortion because then they won't maybe buy my records but i think they will buy her records anyway and i think she did say something a little bit pro-choice and like a maybe even a little bit pro-palestine so do we think there's never been a like i it's always seemed like very out of touch to me that the democratic party is so
Starting point is 00:48:06 i i don't even know if it's a democratic party or if it's just the mainstream media that emphasizes like well the democrats have katie perry like performing at their you know campaign event so well that's part of it is like the way that they're just completely putting everything on pop culture and being like it has always been like idiotic like the pokemon go to the polls like like no give us health care give us fucking health care right the fact that they're like no we need to get a team of famous people to endorse this candidate because that's all anybody cares about it feels very much like the you know playlist politics where it's just like, no, nobody cares what's on your playlist.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Give us any actionable change that'll improve people's lives because everybody's fucking struggling and miserable. Yeah. Which maybe is a good segue over to Elmo. Yeah. But I mean, like, I think just like the last thing, I think this is also just a perfect opportunity for the right wing media to not talk about all the L's Trump's been taking in court recently because they don't want to talk about the $83 million judgment that was awarded to Eugene Carroll. And now this week, we're going to find out what he's going to owe for all the fraudulent BS with the fucking Trump organization. And Letitia James is seeking $370 million. So this dude could be close to a half billion dollars in the hole.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yeah, but he might still be president. No, of course. And they might use that to be like, oh, they're coming for him because he's too powerful. They're trying to take him down and now he's the underdog, which is like how he operates is convincing a bunch of privileged people that they're the underdog. Right. I mean, he kind of is know if you really think about it you know i've just just been he's a fighter with that he's a fighter in down but never out till the end but yeah i think again it's just there's always like an aversion to talk about like whatever's happening with him in a negative sense i feel like a lot of this swift stuff like while it a lot of people are
Starting point is 00:50:03 like oh they're so fucking scared of taylor so if i'm like they also don't want to talk about the news too so this is like a good thing just to be like you know getting people on like an anti-swift thing oh yeah maybe it is a psyop but from the right yeah seriously that would be very them to like be screaming about a psyop that they are actually conducting conducting as they're screaming about the PSYOP. Yeah, that's kind of their move. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about how everyone's doing. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
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Starting point is 00:54:07 but you know uh and then the response was just people are struggling i mean it was no joke there's some good good bits but yeah they're they're you know people made it a bit to trauma dump on elmo but i think i think i think the hurt was coming from a real place. Yeah. I like how this author, Hanif Abdurraqib, was like, Elmo, each day the abyss we stare into grows a unique horror, one that was previously unfathomable in nature. Our inevitable doom, which once accelerated in years or months,
Starting point is 00:54:44 now accelerates in hours even minutes however i did have a good grapefruit earlier thank you for asking shout out honey great writer yeah we need it we need a good grapefruit too every now and then you know look if elmo didn't want to know shouldn't have asked yeah yeah right yeah yeah that also is like unique uniquely dystopian it's like yeah everybody what we really need is like therapy free therapy for everybody after going through covid yeah still haven't dealt with that omni yeah everybody's clearly they were like just got to get through to like after that and now we're out on the other side and it's definitely things are bad and getting worse all the time and instead of
Starting point is 00:55:25 a therapist they're giving us elmo elmo elmo wants to know if anybody has existential dread okay just check you oh shit man you know that word elmo i thought you're fucking three and a half or whatever fucking old you are elmo is aged ageless elmo is an eternal being of angst and darkness. Elmo knows not the pain of death. Elmo will be here before. Elmo is the Alpha and Omega. Elmo has seen cities on fire. Rain.
Starting point is 00:56:01 The clouds of Mars. A wash in rain. I've bathed in the ashes of human beings since Elmo. Anyway, yeah, kind of opened a dark one with that one, Elmo. I was there when Christ met the devil. Sesame Street did direct people to sesame.org slash mental health after they were like, Hey, thanks for checking in. Reminder from us to pause and take a mindful moment to focus on how we're feeling for emotional well-being resources and more.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Here's a link. I do think getting hugged by Big Bird could help me heal. Yeah. Unfortunately, Big Bird was tiny for two weeks in case you needed the hug while elmo was asking how you were doing you would have killed him if you hugged molly yeah there was a kafka-esque nightmare unfolding over on big bird's account where he'd been regularly posting about how he randomly shrunk to the size of an insect and is big no longer wow that's fucking me up yeah i saw a a dad and his kid have a conversation i was just eavesdropping next to me at the ramen
Starting point is 00:57:16 spot this dad and his daughter were talking about who would win in a fight between big bird and elmo oh shit wow i mean is it a question i feel like yeah they're both very gentle daughter was like don't count elmo out he fights dirty yeah i could see that yeah but but big bird will just big bird will fuck you up the dad was like have you ever seen a goose run yeah that's what big bird's gonna be Big Bird has talons and is probably weighs... How many pounds do you think Big Bird weighs? Because, I mean, birds have hollow bones, but he's more in the ostrich thing.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Yeah, but think of... She was like, what if Elmo's down there knocking his kneecaps out? That's, I think... Okay, that's how smaller people like to think that they have the advantage in a fight. That is 100% me molly the mini horse yeah thinking maybe a short person could win a fight against a gigantic person i always think about that because my uncle used to always say some shit because he like used
Starting point is 00:58:15 to like he was really into like martial arts he's like you only take so many pounds of pressure to like hyper extend someone's knee you know i mean just kick them if they're standing on that standing ledge just go for that first just try and take out their mobility type shit this kind of shit he would say to me i i think maybe elmo could try something like that but at the end of the day i think big bird is stepping into the ring at around 620 pounds yeah but you don't think elmo has like a shiv i mean are we thinking that there's weapons involved or are we just looking like because now we're projecting all these interesting, like violent fantasies. I assume that's what she meant by Elmo fights dirty is that Elmo would not adhere to the code of fists only.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Yeah. Okay. Or, or wings only. Or wings. It ain't shit for Elmo to ask. Knife a motherfucker. Oh, you thought, you thought you would catch Elmo lacking? No.
Starting point is 00:59:03 You just won the wet t-shirt contest. What are you talking about, Elmo? Now you're leaking. Look at you. Look at you. Look at you. Fucking bozo. The triangle.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Damn, if somebody told me I won the wet t-shirt contest and then they shot me and that was what they meant, I would just be done. I would laugh. Laugh to my death. You'd be shot me and yeah that was what they meant i would just i would laugh laugh to my death you'd be like yeah that was clever you're like you fucking got very funny guess what homies with a wet t-shirt huh you got me yep sorry just oh that's what you meant i thought we were gonna have a wet t-shirt contest well my shirt is black i don't know if that will help for the wet t-shirt no no no not that kind but yeah i don't. Yeah, I guess it's so funny how I'm really thinking about this. I don't know why I want Big Bird to triumph over Elmo. What's their ages?
Starting point is 00:59:52 That would also help. They're both like mentally too. No, Big Bird is canonically the mind of a six-year-old. Elmo is canonically three and a half. Oh, thank you. So that's why I think like my kids were terrible athletes at three and a half. I've got to say. They sucked at karate.
Starting point is 01:00:08 It didn't stop me from putting them in various tournaments and betting a lot of money on them. And I took a bath. But yeah, three and a half, I feel like is not going to have all you know the coordination to defeat a six-year-old who also happens to be a seven foot tall bird or i guess eight foot tall eight yeah yeah yeah i think it's i'm sorry i think it's a wrap for you elmo i hate to say that oh someone's got to do a parody of bigfoot the nikki minaj song about big bird now oh shit yeah where are you at the internet? He's like six foot.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I call him Big Bird. Elmo lying on your mama's grave. You're like, whoa. I think also, I think Elmo could trash talk. Yeah. I think Elmo could make you cry. Elmo could say something so fucked up. You're like.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I mean, he just made fucking half a Twitter cry. I know. That's what I mean. Very just innocent that's true yeah elmo was like big bird do you think your parents loved you why did they abandon you then wait big bird how do you know your family if you came from an egg that's right loser you have no idea where the fuck you came from oh remember when elmo came for rocco he was like elmo don't like rocco yeah i don came for rocco he was like elmo don't like rocco yeah i'm gonna think rocco a stupid bitch and then everybody was like yo it's elmo all day man fuck rocco that's what i'm saying elmo is like don't don't count out elmo zeitgang let us know please just i would like to get to an actual logical decision conclusion on this of who
Starting point is 01:01:43 would win in a fight. Let's say that the fight isn't announced that it has to just be hand-to-hand combat, but if trickery happens, it happens. I would like to see just everybody's opinion on this because I've never been so... I don't know, my mind's fucking racing
Starting point is 01:02:00 right now. Oh my god, I'm so glad I brought this because I've been thinking about it since I heard it. I didn't want to tell these people I was eavesdropping on them, but I want to like get in there and be like, look, you're both making some good points. Okay, but for you, sir, have you ever been punched? argue about things you would talk about on a podcast like who would win in a fight between elmo and big bird over and also the dog she won she won the argument she was like no you're cooked i do think if you got yeah she was like shut the fuck up dad you're not a fucking kid you don't know what you don't know about this this life i do think if you got if you could get big bird to fall over it could be a wrap yeah right let us and then what he would just be claw his face out
Starting point is 01:02:51 don't birds that are state like stand like that like usually have talons like the uh raptors like he's a dinosaur yeah they're basically dinosaurs yeah big words a fucking dinosaur we don't know what the fuck Elmo is. But we also don't know what's under those feet. You know what I mean? There might be retractable talons. We don't know what's under Elmo's fur. He could have a titanium skeleton.
Starting point is 01:03:16 That's true. He's made of adamantium. He's made of adamantium. You know that gif where he's got the flames in the background? Like, that's... Right. That's Elmo looking you in the eye as you're dying. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yeah. Hit you with that yoga flame. Isn't Elmo's dad a jazz musician? Well, we all know about jazz musicians. No, that's Nas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Right. All right. Well, Molly Lambert, such a pleasure having you. This could end up being, we could record five podcasts on this subject. Well,
Starting point is 01:03:44 I mean, next time i'll come back we can do a bracket of who would win in all the different sesame street battles because it has been on my mind since yeah yeah and then again if you bring in the muppet show people it's like then you know then miss piggy knows martial arts oh yeah uh you can find me at molly underscore lambert on instagram you can find me me at Molly Lambert World on TikTok. I'm on Twitter at Molly Lambert, but I'm not really tweeting.
Starting point is 01:04:09 And you will hear me soon again on a podcast. Jenna World, the Jenna Jameson, Jenna World, Jenna Jameson, Vivid Video, and the Valley. Yeah. A expansive podcast about the history of the pornography business in the San
Starting point is 01:04:26 Fernando Valley and a lot of other stuff coming soon. Coming sometime. That's right. Sometime. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yeah, I've been enjoying True Detective Night Country. I wanted to rep for Night Country. I think it is fun and great
Starting point is 01:04:46 and everyone knows I like True Detective season 2 a lot it's like season 2 of The Wire, it's different and that's fine I just think Jodie Foster is like a piece of shit detective it's amazing
Starting point is 01:05:00 and the whole show is great the other detective partner great love having something to curl up with on sunday nights and it makes me feel so cozy that i'm not in alaska yeah oh man and i've now hit the threshold that i have to now watch it it's been too many people yeah being like you gotta check it out it's good's just like, it's a little cozy Sunday night show. You're just like, it's great. Ooh, a polar bear? I like that.
Starting point is 01:05:29 That's like my other favorite show, Lost. Okay, I like this. That's what I heard everybody's talking about. And I was like, okay, you got me now. You said fucking polar bears. I like things that take place in Alaska also. I like being in Alaska mentally. Because it does make me be like, damn, I am warm.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Right, right, right. Wow wow i'm so warm right now it's amazing with this this thin t-shirt on i'm wearing a tank top and it's january incredible i wore flip-flops yesterday oh uh miles where can people find you is there working media you've been enjoying yeah find me find me on the app-based platforms, at Miles of Grey, pretty much all of them. And yeah, find me and Jack on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack on Mad Boosties. You can also find Sophia, Alexandra, and I on our 90-Day Fiance podcast for 20-Day Fiance.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I like two tweets, actually. One is from Heather Ann Campbell, at Heather Campbell, tweeted, Comedians complaining about cancel culture and, quote, comedy censorship. Should try doing stand up. Try doing their stand up set from the night. Try doing a stand up set from the 1920s and see how terribly those jokes land and realize that comedy evolves. And so can they. And then this other one, because it really intersects with the story we just talked about at Chris Evangelista at C Evangelista 413 said this trivia from Muppets Most Wanted is burned into my brain. And it's an excerpt from a little factoid
Starting point is 01:06:51 apparently from when Danny Trejo was on Muppets Most Wanted. It goes, quote, Danny Trejo's mother passed away as he was filming his last scenes in this movie as he was finishing his scene so he could fly back to Los Angeles, California for the funeral, the cast and crew offered their condolences and sympathies to him. Trejo, known for his tough guy roles and demeanor, shrugged off the sympathies. When Steve Whitmire offered his condolences in character as Kermit the Frog, Trejo broke down crying. That's wild. Yeah, just remember. It's also a wild move by the Kermit guy to be like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:07:25 Sorry about your mom, man. Trejo's crying because he's like, that's not Jim Henson, bitch. You're not, no, you're not Kermit. It would only been Jim or Frank Oz. Now get the fuck away from me. Yeah, that's right. You fucking loser. I'm not crying.
Starting point is 01:07:41 You're crying because I'm going to kill you. Oh, shit, dude. I'm not crying. You're crying because I'm going to kill you. Oh, shit, dude. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A tweet I've been enjoying, Mo Moller tweeted, If you die on Everest, they leave your body there and you just become a part of the scenery. The same thing happens if you die in a Dollar General, which is just a fact I didn't know.
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Starting point is 01:08:19 you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yes, actually, because we were talking about zips and double cups and the gentrification of lean. you might enjoy miles is there a song that you think people might enjoy uh yes actually because we were talking about zips and double cups uh and the gentrification of lean just want to bring it back to one of the original people who made it really fashionable to abuse uh you know prescription cough syrup and that's juicy jay uh and this track is called a zip and a double cup it has everything you need it has just weird cuts and also the fantastic Lex Luger drop. Damn, son, where'd you find
Starting point is 01:08:48 this? So, right out to this one. Zip and a double cup by Juicy Jet. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for
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