The Daily Zeitgeist - GOP Feeling Fascists’ Remorse? HBO Max Crashing On Purpose? 08.29.22

Episode Date: August 29, 2022

In episode 1319, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of The Gay Power Half Hour, Casey Ley, to discuss… GOP Having Trouble Figuring Out If Being Inhumane Is Good Branding…, McDonald�...��s Play Places Are A Damn Menace, Was House of the Dragon Crashing HBO Max An Accident? And more! Revealed: leaked video shows Amy Coney Barrett’s secretive faith group drove women to tears McDonald’s Play Places Are A Damn Menace Whatever Happened To McDonald's PlayPlaces? Will the McDonald’s PlayPlace Go Away for Good? A Mother’s War on Germs at Fast-Food Playlands Mom Uncovers Filth, Fecal Bacteria, in Some Fast Food Restaurant Kiddie Play Areas Anti-Germ Crusader Banned By McDonalds ‘House of the Dragon’ Premiere Crashes HBO Max 'House of the Dragon' Series Premiere Crashes HBO Max Application on Amazon Devices Why Are Streaming Platforms Crashing Before Popular Finales? Sold-out Products Influence Consumer Choice LISTEN: Break My Soul (DJ Yamsha's Taboo 2 Remix) by BeyoncéSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties
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Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:00:56 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:01:40 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 252 episode one of the daily production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is monday august 29th 2022 i know what that means miles do you know what that means
Starting point is 00:02:19 you know what you actually caught me will you mind telling me? I don't know who you're talking about. Oh, you son of a bitch. No, I do. It's National Lemon Juice Day. Yes. And according to Hoyle Day. What the fuck does that mean? That sounds like some shit that people forgot about at least a generation ago. To honor the rules and regulations of particular situations,
Starting point is 00:02:43 also pay tribute to a man by the name of Edmund Hoyle, an Englishman who is thought to be the first technical writer on card games yeah i was gonna say cards oh nah bro you see oh because aren't like aren't there like playing cards known like hoyle like hoyle yeah i've seen that on the back of a card of a stack of cards before you know that when people start talking about like board games and card game i hate rules so like hearing about like respecting the rules of a board game gives me a lot of anxiety. I don't know if you saw that meme on Twitter. You know, there's that photo, that picture from the new Stranger Things season
Starting point is 00:03:11 that's Will, like and he's secretly like crying to himself in the van. Have you seen that picture? He's like, well, a lot of people use it for different shit. One person was like me the second somebody starts explaining the rules of a card game to me.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And I've identified with that. So yeah, look, observe the rules or a card game to me uh and i've identified with that so yeah look observe the rules or don't on hoyo day that's i'm good with like the three card games that i know that's that's plenty well war is one of them war go fish and no uh gin gin rummy knock gin like those are those are and then hearts and. And then, yeah, I guess I know war. I haven't played high stakes war in a while. So maybe I need to bring that back. Oh, yeah, for the kids? For the kids?
Starting point is 00:03:52 Yeah, for the kids. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Cold Cold Cans of Mountain Dew. Drink by a blast, baby Till I piss blue That is courtesy of my plane flight from Dallas this morning I'm just not having shit to do And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray Miles Shroom God
Starting point is 00:04:19 What is the secret to your power? Miles Shroom God Won't you take us far away from the trumpy trump okay shout out to tenacious d shout out mushroom shout out psilocybin shout out uh just prult on the discord for that one i forgot about that album yeah are you mushroom god like you you're microdosing what with the with the i mean they may have remembered a past episode one time i freaked the shit out of colin hanks at sketch fest in san francisco because i was wearing like a big throw blanket on me at a party like and everybody was dressed up and like hey what's your name i was like i'm the shroom god and he was like okay nice to meet you because i was i was having a good time. Colin Hanks wasn't ready for that?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Colin Hanks, he's a good man. Yeah, he was not ready for that, I don't think. He was just kind of like, okay, thank you, and then quickly moved on to other people, less dilated people. Nice to meet you. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined by a hilarious stand-up comedian who is one of our favorite guests and is rejoining us after a long absence too long way too long you need to go subscribe to his youtube show the gay power half hour it's casey what's up casey hello everyone i don't have a screaming song to share but um it is uh great to be back here next to you guys it It's great to see you.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Are you in LA these days still? Yeah, I'm still in LA, hunkered down. I took a moment during the pandemic. I went up to San Francisco for like six months because I was living with a couple of comics down here who I liked, but I decided I didn't want to die with, you know, in the pandemic. So I went up and hung out with some family.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Make those difficult decisions. Yeah, nice. But yeah, it's good, you know, in the pandemic. So I went up and hung out with some family for a bit. Make those difficult decisions. Yeah. But yeah, it's good, you know, simmering in the heat a bit. Yeah, basting. I love it flaming. Exactly. It's nice. It's good to be back in LA, man.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I just flew back from Dallas this morning, and I was talking to Super Producer Becca, who's from Texas, back from Dallas this morning and I was talking to super producer Becca who's from Texas about the the crickets are taking over the state of that of Texas it's fucking really yeah crickets like like the like places they shouldn't be like a like in another place, you know, just falling off the walls of buildings, like onto my shoulder. Oh. It was wild. I would rather the crickets be in charge of Texas, though, than the current people in power.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I think let them take over. And you said bigger brains. Bigger brains. They got an odor too? That's what I was saying. I did not notice the odor, but I also didn't know to be looking out for an odor. I was saying, though, that I had a summer of beetles that took over the town of Dayton that I lived in. Like when I was, I think it was like when I was 12 or so.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And I still remember the smell. She was saying that like, it's one of those smells you, you can't get out of your head. The smell of like all the dead crickets. And yeah, I remember that from, from the Beatles. There's, there's just like something very, I don't know, but something unlike I've smelled up to that point and unlike i've smelled since well to casey's point then if we're gonna have stinky pieces of shit run the
Starting point is 00:07:52 state then it might as well be the crickets right so yeah there you go long live yeah stinks already stink already can you imagine i i can't see how it's compound a compounding problem a bunch of decomposing bug carcasses in the carcasses in the heat yeah uh it just sounds like a is this an annual thing or is it just another you know onslaught of modern times i think it's a that we were trying to figure that out if it was like worse because they just had some flooding down there so maybe they like came up out of the ground because it was like saturated but it seemed like you know everybody who we talked to who was from there or from anywhere in texas was like yeah no this is pretty standard it's just it's weird and like a thing nobody talks about but you just have to like kick your shoes every couple seconds or else
Starting point is 00:08:40 the oh yeah the crickets will start crawling up your pant leg um someone tried to feed me cricket chips the other day and i got really angry about it but i guess you know and that's those are chips that are made of fucking crickets and uh i don't like that i don't like where that future is heading oh well we now this is how we make the chips. We scoop them off of the ground in Texas. Right. That is a theory I've heard is that the reason we like crunchy chip like things is because we when we were evolving, like we ate so many bugs, like bugs was a staple part of our diet. Right. And so like we evolved to really like that, like crispy crunchiness. And so like we evolved to really like that, like crispy crunchiness. And now because we're like anti eating bugs, we have to create like artificial crispy crunch. Which is wild because they're like also being like, it may be the key to helping like may have a sustainable food future too.
Starting point is 00:09:38 It's like having that in the food mix. So I'm like, yeah. All right. So eat your bugs and shut up. Eat your bugs and shut up, Texas. Eat your bugs and shut up eat your bugs and shut up texas eat your bugs you're gonna eat your way out of this problem texas very protein rich apparently all right casey we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today we we're gonna talk about whether
Starting point is 00:10:02 the republicans are like how do they respond to a fatal flaw it feels like they're experiencing we're going to talk about whether the Republicans are, like, how do they respond to a fatal flaw? It feels like they're experiencing a fatal flaw with their ideals. Like, suddenly, you know, they got what they said they wanted for the past fucking 40, 50 years. And the fact that it is inhumane treatment of human beings is not popular so we're going to talk about that we're going to talk about mcdonald's play places all that
Starting point is 00:10:32 plenty more but first casey we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history well you know i am uh i don't want to brag but i'm going to Europe in a couple of days wow okay I know it's not Texas but it's gonna be I'm going to Paris but not the one in Texas
Starting point is 00:10:51 Dallas is the Paris of that part of Texas sure Paris would be very angry to hear you say that I am sure but I'll let them know
Starting point is 00:11:01 that we are discussing them and they won't care because they're Paris. But I'm going to I'm actually not going there. I'm going to Spain and England and Portugal. Nobody don't.
Starting point is 00:11:09 OK. And so I was I've been researching places to go and I wasn't sure where I had a couple extra days at the end. And I was trying to figure out where to go. And so I was just kind of like browsing and I found the Hadrian, the Hadrian, Hadrian attic city of Italica, which is Roman ruins north of Seville. And Hadrian, I don't know if you guys know this, and to your listeners, I'm a homosexual, so this is going to get gay. Thank you. He was the gayest of all the Roman emperors, and that's where he was born.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And he was the one to really have a true husband. I don't know what they call them that in Greek Roman times. But I'm fascinated with this guy because he was in charge of the world and he was like, I'm going to be married to this woman because you make me, but I'm also going to raise my lover to the level of a God. He named cities after him. Antonius was his concubine or lover or husband i'm not sure what the word is so he is like if you go to the louvre which i've been to because i you know go to paris obviously naturally he uh is like the most represented uh represented roman figure outside of some of outside of like caesar and it's just because he was the hottest guy in in all of
Starting point is 00:12:20 the world at the time and so i'm obsessed with Hadrian as a result of this. So if you want to get a little, if this is to get to know me as to know, I love, um, hot guys from the past. So, uh, I'm going on our international search for them.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Uh, I mean, I also just liked that just because like Hadrian was like, man, I love this motherfucker. That that's also why he's like, so the Antonis is is so represented he's like no no yeah another one for him too right there three well antonus died he drowned in the nile
Starting point is 00:12:51 and it's uh unclear it's possible that hadrian's wife drowned him he also just might have tripped and fell who knows they were partying a lot back then and and hadrian was so gripped with grief that he where he died he created the city of and 10 new up a list or something. And then that's why he would, he, he, he raised him to the level of a God. And that's why he was so represented.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And he was so attractive that everyone was like, we're going to need more of those pictures of that, of that hot bay. And it's just an incident. It's a, it's something that I love. And that's when people started painting portraits was just to to get better pictures of how hot this dude was early porn you know it's like basically oh yeah oh yeah he had that good hair too oh yeah you're looking at
Starting point is 00:13:37 him looking him up yeah yeah yeah like he looks like you know a lot of times you look at classical busts and you're like man that's aristotle's busted as fuck you know like he's like man david well they had different standards of beauty i know but even now like i'm looking at this bus i'm like yo yeah yeah antony's could get it yeah yeah yeah yeah he's got good features yeah he's just like he's just like a full-on babe and um you know so hoping to find my auntie news oh my god have you seen this picture of someone being like what would he look like now i'm gonna put this in the chat casey just so you can see it because he looks like some tiktok influencer that is super funny check that out yeah yeah was that like i just accepted when i was young like oh well paintings like nude paintings
Starting point is 00:14:26 were you know that that was just classic art and there being but like at the time were they like yo that this is hot there are some like uh uh people some like kings and like high ranking church figures from the past who would have artists put like a mini you know like they would paint murals on the roof of their ceilings and some of them were like super erotic you know like the Sistine Chapel is just like naked people right like and you know Rick and Michelangelo was all about just like the ripped human form and so it's absolutely like going from we don't think about it this way but like imagine walking into the sistine chapel and you've never like all you ever seen is you're just like you're naked husband's fucking like farmer body pretty tight pretty tight you know but dirty right and uh cap yeah and all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:15:19 you're just like like people would just like faint and explode and just come i think they would just yeah and that's a mop and a bucket at the entrance yeah everyone's like hey man you going to the chapel again you're like yeah man went three times last night this computer this computer generated antonus is a beautiful human but also it feels like they went and they made some choices. Like the, the bust hair looks better. And also I think his eyes, they like didn't do his, I don't know. Oh, wow. You're like, the eyes are hotter in the statue than I think. Well, like, I think they just like made some, made some choices, but I mean, they did a good job though. I'm not, I'm not complaining. I'm just like i feel like i i was expecting otherworldly like screen melting beauty but for based on the the tails but you know yeah
Starting point is 00:16:12 no yeah i agree he looks just like i mean he does he looks like a tick he looks like uh and antonius was from turkey so and this guy he looks like a turkish sam mendes that they're doing right now i'm i'm here for it yeah no he's definitely cute what is uh what's something you think is overrated so this is going to be in line with um my trip to europe because i'm never going to shut up about it love that love that for you love that i went last last year to um europe i went with my boss and he paid for everything, which is a nice way to go. That's amazing. And this time I'm, uh, you hear that Jack?
Starting point is 00:16:50 And this time I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm paying mostly by myself. And because my boss is also a homosexual, a lot of people were like, Oh, your boss is taking a year out and he's paying for it.
Starting point is 00:16:58 You must be having sex with your boss. And I'm not, I think he respects me for my mind. I hope. There you go. And I'm a good time. But I, been realizing and paying for this trip on my own
Starting point is 00:17:08 that if someone wanted to take me to Europe for free and the stipulation was I had to have sex with them, I would do it. Based on the amount that you're spending. I think what is overrated is shaming people for having sex for goods
Starting point is 00:17:24 and services like tickets to Europe. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like that is an overrated thing. Too many people are shameful or direct shame at those who barter with their body. Yeah. And I think we need to cut that shit out. Something everybody has done since the beginning of time. But it's just you're not allowed to do it out loud right seriously right yeah i want yeah i think that when it gets
Starting point is 00:17:49 weird is when the person who is doing is offering the free stuff begins to take that relationship dynamic to a place you're like well i now control you it's like no no no no we're bartering actually yeah 100 you can have like you will make a little it's like you know how nice of a dinner are we gonna have you know right basically i am just saying i want to be a prostitute and i think that we should not be shaming people for it so where did you go where'd you go with your boss we went to uh paris and then um corsica uh he's a he's a we i kind of uh help him develop ideas and uh he had an idea that was set in corsica and it might have been an excuse to go to just go to corsica he's also kind of learning french
Starting point is 00:18:32 so he wanted to go and um it was it was right before delta hit uh the delta variant so we're talking you know i mean several variants ago yeah and it was right when the eu had opened back up and so and he normally travels with various, but none of them wanted to go. So he was just like, do you just want to go? And I was like, well, I can't afford to go at your level. And he was like, yeah. And I was like, okay. Just show up.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Show up to the airport. So it was very nice. And we have a very professional and fun relationship. And it was great. And let me tell you, my first time going to Paris, and was my boss the ideal person to go to the most romantic city and beautiful city in the world no i know but again he paid for everything so he was a perfect person as to go to europe yeah and they can set a baseline for your own rates all the european stuff sounds nice uh i will have you know there's something in dallas the Reunion Tower, which is like a
Starting point is 00:19:25 bunch of lights on a stick, basically. It's like a big round thing of lights at the top, and on Valentine's Day, it has hearts, and it's pretty cool. It's like a big mega... What are those screens
Starting point is 00:19:41 called at sporting events? Jumbotron? Jumbotron. It's like a big Jumbotron jumbotron it's like a big jumbotron in the middle of the city it's quite phallic it's kind of kind of cultured i don't know god this guy never shuts up about texas yeah what's uh what's something you think is underrated you know we were kind of joking about paul pelosi pre-show and i gotta tell you i think old people are underrated this guy knows how to party you know he didn't get away with it but um you know wine drunk just you know the he's the what do you call the the husband of the speaker of the house the first
Starting point is 00:20:15 call him paul pelosi we get it the name the name just rings through yeah but you know and like and i'm not gonna want to get too neoliberal but you know like biden's having a good run you know and like and i'm not gonna want to get too neoliberal but you know like biden's having a good run you know things and everyone's like everyone can't shut up about how old he just canceled student debt for everyone and all my friends were talking about was how old and tired he looked in the speech he gave and i was like okay sorry that you got free stuff and you don't like the from this old guy and you can't handle it and you don't want it because he doesn't doesn't look good you know doesn't speak we were we were very look love obama did a great job uh for us really had our our uh our uh interest in mind but he's the problem
Starting point is 00:20:52 was he was too good he spoke too good he looked too good you know and then we had four years of just fucking utter trash and and and we expected whatever was going to come after that to be perfect again and it wasn't just this old white dude who doesn't speak that good but apparently has given us some stuff that we needed okay if he gets that iran deal done i'm gonna start talking about him as a good president i might even vote for him again i might even vote yeah what's it was it yeah definitely a new context listening to him up there like missing some words and i was like yeah that's fine i'm good with that like he said he's talking about having actually done something it's it really is like what when you're missing words and you're also like not doing stuff that like it seems like you should be doing then it's a little unnerving but when you're like skipping words or like
Starting point is 00:21:39 combining words and you know i do that shit all the time. My man, Biden, just cancel all the fucking debt. Right. Cause we're talking equity, right? It means everybody's equal. That means everybody's debt should be canceled at the same level. Don't leave people hanging with us though. And I get it that a lot of, it is very helpful. Like in most people, a lot of people did actually get a lot of their debt wiped out. Part of me is like, man, if you do all that, you could speak as fucked up as you want like you don't have to fucking show up you could go out there on fucking molly peeking like just taking deep breaths up there i'm like yeah man whatever man just let him fucking cook we're just like not on adderall there there's a thing that happens where he like his energy like goes in like waves like from sentence to sentence in a way i don't know
Starting point is 00:22:27 it might just be like some internal meter that's telling him like oh they told you to just stop shouting like everything and then he like starts whispering and it seems like he's falling asleep after he was just like bro it's the molly it's the molly bro it comes in waves another underrated it's not enough of our leaders are doing molly you know not psychedelics you know honestly i've been saying this so underrated you should to get into congress you you gotta you have to trip on psychedelics yeah i think you have to try you have to trip balls to get in there and you need to have a moment where you can just be like go outside of yourself let your ego break we have a new
Starting point is 00:23:05 perspective on how big or small you are in this universe then start legislating i don't think it would be terrorism to dose the punch at a congressional party or something like that because it's like you got it like because then all the you know like marjorie taylor green she'll she might jump off i don't want i don't to. She might do something to herself that would be beneficial to the country. Which is remove herself from office. Yes, exactly. Because the demons are deep, you know, with a lot of people on that side. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And our side. Demons are real on all sides. Oh, yeah. All demons. Pooh-pooh demons. They're very strong. But, yeah, I mean, you know, hallucinogenics made me the non-congressional, fun-loving, European traveling person I am today.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah, that's like the way that the Olympics tests for various drugs. And like, like, I feel like we should be doing that with things like amphetamines. We've already seen that those are bad for leadership and like to lead you down a dark path with the Nazis. So like, yeah, maybe, maybe not that maybe they shouldn't be allowed to do that and be president at the same time.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Yeah. But I'm talking to the mushroom King. Yeah. Talk to the God. Thank you, man. I would be Joe Biden's shrooms are right. I like that.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Just a little tea. Get on. Yeah. And then just like sit there next to the fire and have a think for like 24 hours on the just i'm like i'm like joe don't say anything let's just look at each other for the next 20 minutes let's see where this goes let's see where this goes yeah but it's what like it's funny too because even though we joke about this it's like every fucking week there's a new thing about the the benefits of psychedelics like
Starting point is 00:24:46 psychedelic research the study just came out about psilocybin and treating alcoholism and like how that could be a very potent combination to help people and we're like god damn it man so many answers fucking right in front of us and not just in front of us like literally grown out of the earth and we're like racing to destroy everything on Earth and all the problems literally on Earth. And I will say about Biden, you know, I don't even know. I don't think what what hallucinogenics do is teach you empathy. They do. Like, that's a big part of it. Biden does have empathy.
Starting point is 00:25:16 So I'm not I'm not sure he's an 80 an 80 year old man needs to start tripping for the first time. But I know they say it's very good for end of life oh yeah he's not he's not gonna die okay two more years we need no he looked great he looked great i've never seen skin so such a healthy gray tone like that it is impressive imagine i can't get out of bed every day 79 you gotta get up every day early. You know, you got to be woken up. I feel like for how old Joe Biden is and having to work, that's like us, like being hung over as shit and having to go to work and pretend you're not hung over. I went out last night.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I almost canceled on this podcast. I was at 1130. At 1130. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the other side of the aisle and their their branding problems. They're demons. Oh, shit. It turns out we're demons and people don't like that.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions.
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Starting point is 00:27:13 without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.
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Starting point is 00:28:37 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
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Starting point is 00:30:21 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and miles you wrote this up gop having trouble uh you know aligning you know figuring out the branding around being inhumane monsters yeah Yeah. I, you know, it's, it's this one thing. It's this one thing that got me thinking that Pat Ryan result. And then this other guy in Arizona, like completely like rebranding himself. So the Dobbs, the Dobbs decision has obviously injected like a ton of energy into the
Starting point is 00:31:00 country, obviously for like the saddest fucking reasons, because like, yo, y'all don't have no rights. and we might have to do this legislatively but people are starting to obviously they're registering to vote in increased numbers the democrats are like thanking the heavens because they've found a way to passively potentially survive the midterms by never standing up to protect abortion rights but now being like no no no, no, no, we'll do something now.
Starting point is 00:31:25 But you got to vote for us. It's bittersweet, I guess. But last week we saw Pat Ryan, who's a Democrat, win in a very like swingy district, like went for like Obama and 12, went for Trump and 16, went for Biden and 20. And he won by like two points and he made a conscious decision like,
Starting point is 00:31:42 you know what, I need to speak more forcefully about abortion rights. While his opponent, this Republican, points and he made a conscious decision like, you know what, I need to speak more forcefully about abortion rights while his opponent, this Republican, avoided the conversation and basically just leaned into like crime wave and inflation. And the guy lost. We also saw Kansans come out in mass to defeat a constitutional amendment to also keep their rights. So, you know, the post Dobbs lack of enthusiasm from the GOP is also just showing in how they're underperforming to in primary races. So when you look on it, you're like, okay, well, there's clearly, clearly, the existential threat of losing healthcare rights or
Starting point is 00:32:16 healthcare access is motivating people. And the Republicans are like, Oh, okay, what do we how do we figure this thing out and the most like just obvious bit has been this guy blake masters who's running in arizona he's running to unseat mark kelly in the u.s senate and he literally went overnight from being like i'm a hundred percent pro-life to scrubbing his like a fucking website to look less extreme. I'll point out some of the things that he had said previously and things that were gone. So before he had a statement that said, the abortion section of his website said, quote, I am 100% pro-life. Roe v. Wade was a horrible decision. It was wrong the day it was decided in 1973 it's wrong today and it must be reversed today it reads the democrats lie about my views on abortion
Starting point is 00:33:11 that's the first thing you're going to read on his website when you go to read about abortion prior things that he said was uh support a federal personhood law ideally a constitutional amendment that recognizes that unborn babies are human beings that may not be killed a vote. And then he also said, I will vote only for federal judges who understand that row and Casey were wrongly decided and that there is no constitutional right to abortion. Those things have fucking vamoosed completely.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And he even put out an ad where he's trying to be like, they're trying to say i'm extreme i'm not i played with like star wars toys with my sons which is what like the ad was and he was just trying to be like i'm not so extreme that i think anybody should get an abortion whenever i use common sense which is not ignoring someone's body autonomy and just watching that like transparent like switch up is just very unsettling i'm surprised i even had a reaction to it because that's exactly what these like creature like these are political creatures who are always triangulating and they're like nope that's not
Starting point is 00:34:16 good okay erase that part of who they think i am but i'll stealthily keep pursuing this shit but it seems like obviously some people are beginning to figure out that there are billions of dollars pouring in to strip away their like strip away our rights and they're responding but it is a it's it is an interesting moment to kind of watch them try and recalibrate to be like oh we can't be so outwardly fucking backwards but we do also want to be backwards deep down i think there's always that hope that they, that they're having that moment, like that Mitchell and Webb sketch where it's two Nazis and they're like,
Starting point is 00:34:54 Hey, have you like looked at it, looked at our hats lately? Like why, why the skulls are, are we, we're like the bad guys, I guess.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Right. Oh shit. We're the baddies. This is, that's, that's that's not good like i i'm always assuming the republicans are having that moment we're about to i'm constantly disappointed little known fact about that uh blake masters commercial where he's playing with star wars characters with his kids he was actually uh playing with stormtroopers teaching
Starting point is 00:35:21 his kids how to uh put rebel women into servitude. Right. I mean, he was really a TIE fighter. So he's like, you are clearly like, and I'm the Empire, just so you know. I mean, I think, I mean, on the one hand, I do think, you know, a lot of the rank and file believe their own bullshit because they're just, their brains are wrong. And they've just been like, you know, I don't want to get too deep into it. But I just think that the problem for them is they elevated extremists and then the extremists took over and it's just like it's like when it's you know hitler it's easy to make nazi comparisons but like it's the same thing the conservatives in germany were like we can deal with these crazy
Starting point is 00:36:00 people we just need them to energize our base and then all of a sudden they took over and that's what you have and here in america we luckily have a majority of people as the voting keep shows us not wanting this shit and i think finally like there is just you know in in um kansas is an interesting state because a couple like 10 some odd years ago whenever sam brownback was the governor they were the they put in the most conservative agenda of any state that had had, you know, in, in,
Starting point is 00:36:28 in since the twenties. And it was just like no regulation, a lot of conservative Christian stuff. And the state fucking fell apart. And that there are demo, there are state level Democrats in Kansas because of how badly the conservatives fucked it up. Just all deregulationulation all like cutting budget doesn't work you know government is scary sure i read a book one time too that said that but also
Starting point is 00:36:53 like in the real world it fucking works you know did you see that anarchist documentary on hbo no i didn't see it is it good i heard about it's i i i finished it and i was just like I hate, I hate every single one of these people and not in like a fun way. Like I didn't, I didn't like, I didn't, I'm not sure I liked it, but I still like couldn't stop watching it. And it's just a mess,
Starting point is 00:37:14 you know, like, I'm sorry. Yeah. Sometimes, you know what you do when, you know, people are getting murdered and you're,
Starting point is 00:37:19 and like someone in your community is fucking everything up. You kind of need to have some authority figured who can come in and like stop that or else it's going to be pure anarchy motherfucker. And so, yeah, I don't know. I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:37:31 I'm thinking people don't see what the future holds. If like crazy people are in charge, you know, I mean, there was that viral video of that South Carolina state representative, this guy, Neil Collins, I think who,
Starting point is 00:37:45 I don't know if you saw him. He was like very emotional. He's saying like, I voted for this bill. And like, I'm getting calls from doctors talking about like they're women who's like they're actually at risk now. Like because of this fetal heartbeat stuff. And he's like having this like realization. He's like, I this is a quote. The doctor told me she's going to pass this fetus in the toilet she's going to have to deal with that on her own there's a greater than 50 chance that she's going to lose her life develop sepsis herself and pass away he's like that weighs on me i voted for that
Starting point is 00:38:18 bill these are affecting people and you're like motherfucker what the what did you get into government for one but and it's funny because i think this is a kind of person right who was a republican which is i don't know man if i say these magic words like the donations come in and i get there i am kind of a person but i'm also a little bit into the idea of being the most popular local guy where i live so this helps me get into state office. I vote with my team or whatever. You know, sure, I can. People are bellyaching about this and that. But then when confronted with the real results of it, it seems unless he's a total sociopath that he was like,
Starting point is 00:38:57 that this actually feels fucked up. He ended up not voting for another bill that was going to nearly outlaw all abortions now i don't know if he's gonna have a change of heart but that is kind of one of those moments you're like damn like y'all fucking late to the humanity party right i was listening to something recently about they're called the new abolitionists and they're the people who want to have the most extreme abortion laws which involves punishing the, involves punishing the women for murder. And if in a certain state murder is punished by death, then they're pro women being killed for having an abortion by the state.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And, you know, that's the most extreme. But in Louisiana, it got, it was the one state, because it was so extreme, even Republican, even super anti-choice people think that these people are wackos but in louisiana it got to a vote it got defeated very by by big numbers but like he like that's we can see we that's what the thing about dobbs is like it shows you that like these things that were words and ideas are now fact and this fucking republican guy who's like having an all of a sudden not a change of heart, but at least he's seeing reality. That's the problem. That's the problem with, you know, their ideals is that is that the reality is that it truly affects people.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And, you know, and it sucks for the country that like people are going to have to go through that. But like, I don't I think, you know, the nice thing about America does have a tendency to tendency to swing back and forth you know not enough to the other side a lot of the time but it does like there's a comeuppance to all this fucking rhetoric and and and now just like abusive laws so right and i it's hard to know right like the future like to your point these like abortion abolitionist people they're they're out here telegraphing the world what they want the future that they want to right and there's so many people whether they're even running for office these they're out loud saying shit what they think the world is and maybe like laugh it off be like no that's that's what they're motivated by the thing that scares me too it's like you know the crazies won in the
Starting point is 00:41:03 republic on the republican side and and uh got rid of the establishment and now the establishment is trumping the crazies but there are people crazier than that who are like nipping at their heels forcing you know wanting more and we've seen that on that side they just always kowtow to like the most mobile and the most vociferous and those are always the ones who are just like toting guns and, uh, marching and trying to like, you know?
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah. To your point about this being how it happened with the Nazis, like the, the Nazis like didn't have a lot of popular support for a long time. Like they were like getting, getting in like the teens and shit and the twenties and that, and then like eventually got to where they could take power but like i just it's still scary as fuck the how much power they've they've kind of consolidated oh yeah
Starting point is 00:41:54 i mean you have to take it serious like it's it's like looking through your like peephole in your door and you're like yo there's a bunch of fucking wild ass people out there it's like yeah they're trying to get in just so you know and people are like should we invest in the door to keep them out they're like nah man make the door weaker right it's like no look through the fucking that's who's trying to get in it's not a fucking joke like that's what it is and i think that it kind of goes hand in hand you know when you when you talk about people like amy coney berry she obviously comes from this like very bizarre catholic conservative sect cult thing people of praise and this video leaked recently of one of like the early members founders like what partners the leaders whatever you want to call this woman talking like to hear how these
Starting point is 00:42:39 people talk should really frighten you because these are the people who they are getting onto the Supreme Court. Amy Coney Barrett grew up in this. She never tried a fucking case as a judge and is now in the Supreme Court. So on top of this, right, there is this leaked interaction from this people of praise event where this woman who's like been who'd been down with this group for a minute talks about the concept of headship this is what they teach this concept of headship which is essentially that a fancy fucking word for women are not participants in their own fucking lives because men will do all the deciding and in her in this clip she's going to talk about how oh my god these soft ass women who come to the they were crying when we're telling them they got no rights.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And this is how casually they speak about it. And this is this is the church or whatever. This is the worldview that Amy Coney Barrett is coming from. So just just so you can hear how these people speak to each other behind closed doors to give you some perspective. to give you some perspective. And suddenly we were having teachings on headship and the roles of men and women and all sorts of things we hadn't counted on at all. And some of the women who are still in my women's group,
Starting point is 00:43:55 as a matter of fact, would wear sunglasses all the time because they were always crying. Okay? And would have to hold on to their chairs every time somebody started teaching because what are we going to hear this time? But it all worked out just fine. The guy who is interviewing her is doing like big stage laughs,
Starting point is 00:44:14 like quiet, like silent, but like throwing his head back in laughter type shit. I mean, you look again, there's a few people have written about this group, right? The way these people think, the people of praise, quote, were quietly taught by their heads and leaders not to change or rinse out diapers and that women's emotions were, quote, distrusted. Pastoral problems were often addressed by asking a woman where she was in her menstrual cycle. Women played a, quote, decidedly secondary role to men. And a married woman was quote, expected to always reflect the fact that she is under her husband's authority. This is so the, this is a group of people who are pursuing more increased power, whose worldview is this,
Starting point is 00:44:58 that there, there is such thing as a non-human it's called a woman, right? And they are not going to have any autonomy at any level because that is not what we believe. And that is what, those are the kinds of policies that they are going to try and create more and more of. And this makes the, and obviously concepts like feminism or equality in any way are absolute anathema to these people because you can't, they can't, they can't rock in a world where a concept of equality exists and and and she's on the supreme court yeah it's like so i heard she had wanted to write the abortion ruling but uh alito said he she couldn't do it
Starting point is 00:45:37 because she said yikes um he said you're here for the vote we want your womb and your vote okay you know i i try you know i'm i'm raised catholic not by any means in any sort of like hardcore world that these people are coming from but the it was oppressive as a as a gay boy you know i grew up thinking i was going to hell and that put me in my place from a very early age you know it took a while to get out of there but like you know my family is great and they and they've they've uh they're not you know i just i don't i don't i don't i try not to shit on belief systems but when those belief systems then shit all over me and everyone that i know and everyone that i care about and gain power to the fact that we have to catch up to them based on some bullshit you know like i
Starting point is 00:46:26 mean like the constitution is problematic and it was written 235 years ago the bible was written years ago you know and like and we're still like that's the thing you know look at your phone okay what does the bible say about what's going on in your fucking phone nothing because there was no world in which it could even be fathomed like it's trying to some fathoms what i'm saying is i believe jesus would have backed cryptocurrencies if you really think about it 100 it had been down there in mexico with the other anarchists uh leaving the charge right yeah and it's a wild the things that are potentially on the horizon are truly fucking scary. And I think that's the thing, like, as we live in this country, we're like constantly
Starting point is 00:47:10 trying to think of like, okay, what, who is better to lead? What are these people doing over here? Why isn't anyone solving this bigger issue? And it's very, very chaotic. The thing that's most concerning about it to me is that they mobilize better. And because they mobilize and plan for the long game better, in my opinion, that's why they're so effective. Because they don't like the majority of the vast majority of people don't want to be ruled in this way. ruled in this way. But what they're good at, and because they've learned from childhood how to believe in a thing and be a part of the team to follow the leader, our side has a lot of competing interests. And I'm not criticizing them that way. It's just that we don't fall in line in the same way. And so it is harder to coalesce together to unless unless we're up against some like some
Starting point is 00:48:08 and let you know, Trump, Trump, like God bless Trump in this weird way, because he is this unifying figure for all of us, because we forget how bad the other side is really as a whole. And it's nice to have one figure to like coalesce our anger around. But I am concerned about, to like coalesce our anger around but i am concerned about uh you know the future and the present and beyond those like i think we're we're good yeah but look the future doesn't exist i was just reading the power of now you know it's just like our idea you just need to imagine a future with progressive politics that's the secret i think actually not the power of now but yeah yeah also a bestseller and i only i only read books that are bestsellers the power now would be more like hey man at least you don't have a boot on your fucking throat right now in this immediate moment family and i'm like
Starting point is 00:48:55 that's true actually you know what i mean like so don't you know don't don't go down a spiral uh but at the same time i think at the end it's like what i talk about in therapy there was just like look you do you think you're smart enough to know when it's going to get bad? I'm like, oh, hell yeah. They're like, then just cook until then. Because you'll know. Don't stop giving all your energy to be like, but what about. In my therapy, I'm like, more boot, please.
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Starting point is 00:53:56 because you know it's run by corporations in the corporate world they're like well it's a branding thing they make less business sense for mcdon McDonald's now because they're less a family institution. McDonald's is more for, they're looking to be more like Apple stores, basically. And Apple stores don't have playgrounds. So like the, the idea of like McDonald's as a place to bring your family is no longer something they are seriously striving for. And the pandemic, obviously, probably the death blow for the McDonald's play place. But now it seems like there might be some other, even better reasons for these not to exist. Do you guys remember these?
Starting point is 00:54:42 Are you young enough that you've played on them oh yeah yeah yeah i've gone birthday parties at the mcdonald's play place yeah i've been to one i mean i learned how to party man i i honestly i remember my first reaction to a mcdonald's play place as a kid was this place is disgusting. It smells like a sneeze. I have one compound word to say about it and it's monkeypox. I am like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:14 as a gay man, and I know it is not yet affecting the young straight babies of the world. Gay babies riddled. But like, you know, we're coming out of a pandemic hopefully when we think oh a hundred year event we've been shown monkeypox is right on the heels of this the diseases are about to start taking over too the crickets are taking over texas the viruses
Starting point is 00:55:37 are coming like these communal unwashed like places i mean if gays have to consider stop having group sex in party places in in clubs i think we need to maybe consider shutting down yeah we can't have play places yeah no play places and apparently they were like totally unregulated first of all there were so many of them that in 1991 mcdonald's was the nation's largest private playground operator, like with 3000 locations. And they were just unregulated. There were a lot of like germ issues like Miles was talking about that McDonald's would never really like let get out. There was one woman who like started a campaign. I think she was a physician, started a campaign to like try and get people to understand the risks of having your children play there and they they just banned her from mcdonald's right because she was basically
Starting point is 00:56:31 at like a place being like yo there's shit all over the ball yeah literally yeah so was she the person taking samples i was reading about exactly yeah she took samples and a little a little creepy i will say like she keeps stealing the balls we gotta get her out of here i mean honestly you could just wear a glove and be like with one q-tip be like here's one ball i'm taking that put that in a petri dish and watch the cells go but something we talk about a lot on this show is this idea that like you know because corporations have the same rights as individual human beings in america but the big difference is they're allowed to like murder and kill with
Starting point is 00:57:12 impunity there's a book called the corporation from like the early aughts but it talks about it just like does a legal straightforward legal analysis like okay so corporations have all the rights of an individual like financially and legally let's just look at them as if they were individuals. And the things they do are like, they make decisions that kill people based on whether it's profitable or not. Like it just openly, they're like, well, that it's not worth it for us because the resulting claim would cost us less than like making the changes that would have saved that person's life. McDonald's was doing that shit with play places. Like in 1988, there was a girl who got injured pretty badly. Her
Starting point is 00:57:58 family sued. And like over the course of the trial, they obtained insurance records illustrating more than 1,500 claims over McDonald's playground injuries that they just were like, yeah. But it's kind of funny to read. It's like children who break bones when they run into fry trees or bump their heads on the Rocky hamburger ride and break teeth falling off of apple pie stools those were things that they were just like yeah but it would cost way too much to to fix those problems or like hire somebody like add a job that that is just like constantly looking at that and they were right because the jury found in favor of the victim but only awarded the family seven hundred thousand dollars which is like a rounding error for McDonald's. It's nothing.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah, that's like trying to get Kim Kardashian and Sly Stallone to use less water in Malibu with a fine. I was reading that it was just released that they're some of the biggest water users in the area. And it's like, one, of course they are. But it's like, what are you going to do? Fine them? You're going to fine billionaires a couple of bucks? You know, it doesn't,
Starting point is 00:59:07 it doesn't, you know, I'm just saying we're going to do what the abolitionists do. We're going to kill them. Right. Burn their fucking houses down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:16 But, you know, it's like I got, I got banged up on the playground when I was younger. My cousin pushed me off of like the climbing bars and I had to go to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I got stitches and all that stuff. Playgrounds, that kind of stuff happens. I'm more concerned of the fecal matter all over the balls. I feel like that is something that can be dealt with. And if not, get rid of the balls. I'm not so worried about the fry trees and the kid breaking their arm. That's childhood stuff. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Any sort of weird cover-up is never good. Oh, yeah. Right. That's the issue. When you're operating it there, people are doing it, and you're actively covering up how many children are being hurt when your mascot is a friendly party clown like helps sick children, it's kind of weird. It's like when they, you know, like every once in a while, they'll like dig up the ground around like an old like orphanage. And there's just like tons of unmarked graves. If they start doing that with McDonald's, I will start to be very concerned about past practices.
Starting point is 01:00:24 But anyways, all right. So that's one story that our writer, JM, wrote for us. that with mcdonald's i will be i'll start to be very concerned about past practices but yeah but anyways all right so that's one story that our writer jm wrote for us i think the ultimate conclusion is like it's probably not bad that these are going out it's kind of crazy that these actually are still in existence i'm glad even in like the late 80s my child brain was like this place is gross i remember my mom be like you know i'm going there i'm like no i just look smell like shit man yeah like that's the thing with outdoor playgrounds like even though they don't get wiped down like they have rainstorms that come through and like you know it's it's the same smell that you smell like at a it's actually all right i'm gonna say like as as a parent
Starting point is 01:01:06 chucky cheese has stepped up their game they no longer smell like vague like a diaper like diapers and and beer band-aids like they used to they started like actually cleaning those places but there is like a very specific smell that i like i have a sense memory of of yeah yeah this podcast is just me describing smells. Well, it's wild, too, to your point, when that woman who was doing the analysis, you could get a staph infection or MRSA from playing with these balls.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Are you into that? I'm like, you're better off drinking the water from Woodstock 99 at that point. Yeah, if I'm going to get a staph infection or MRSA from some balls, I want to have a good time. Okay? I don't want to be in Paris.
Starting point is 01:01:48 I don't want to be a McDonald's motherfucker. Yeah. I better be at a McDonald's in Europe. Royale with cheese on my motherfucking face. All right. Let's talk about... So our writer, J.M., put forward a conspiracy theory that I...
Starting point is 01:02:06 I believe it. I believe this. This is, I think he's fully right about this. So he's saying, we once again had a headline-making story when HBO debuted House of the Dragon, and it crashed HBO Max. And like there were headlines everywhere. HBO Max crashes for thousands in minutes after House of Dragon premieres, House of the Dragon premieres, crash, crashing HBO Max, House of Dragon. Like just it got a lot of attention. impact about 3 000 people so it's kind of mostly on amazon devices but it also i don't know it really seems like it it happens a lot and like in regular intervals whenever a streaming service has a lot riding on a debut like suddenly it will crash this it's the sort of thing that like people who are experts on this are like no they should be able to like avoid this easily like you know you're going to have increased traffic so you like prepare for that and you have like extra servers ready to handle it you know it some people are pointing out there are like when you scream a show it is it's not like hbo max fires up a machine and you get to watch the thing it's like there are multiple third-party content delivery networks authentication systems internet service providers
Starting point is 01:03:35 like all these different things that it has to go through but like they have it down there's enough money riding on this that it shouldn't ever crash unless they want it to and so jam's theory is that they're just doing this every time they want to generate a headline they want to make a show seem popular because we don't have we don't have like nielsen ratings anymore that anybody like really pays attention to or trust and so they crash their network for like only a handful of people, but enough people to make it a headline to get it like trending on social media. And then that is the equivalent of like a bar or like a restaurant, like making it like getting a line forming at the outside. So it seems like it's extra popular. We saw it with Stranger Things.
Starting point is 01:04:22 We saw it with Squid Game. Like that's it's like part of the vocabulary is like oh was it so good it literally broke the internet right yeah that's what they want like yeah again because it's like it's not everyone's not watching it at once yeah i mean i i don't uh i don't tend to believe in conspiracy theories but i also tend to believe corporations will do anything uh nefarious for any sort of reason and they're allowed to thanks to the supreme court yeah that's true and uh yeah i don't know it was it was and it was it was like the first episode of game of thrones uh it was uh you know it's gonna take me several watches to not fall asleep and then i will watch it all all all 500 episodes in like a weekend, you know? When you finally are like,
Starting point is 01:05:05 oh, I thought that dude's name was something else. They all got terrible wigs on though, so it's hard to keep track of it. I'll tell you, they know how to start a series really well. Bring it all together at the end. We haven't yet. Yeah, we haven't seen them really nail that one.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Right? Is this like a limited series? Because I did watch it. No, they just got renewed for season two. I don't, ah, They need to just be like, we're doing until the end of this book. And that's it. And that's what you're getting.
Starting point is 01:05:32 I mean, obviously that doesn't work within the drag in my feet. The only way all of this ends is when George R.R. Martin dies. Right. And even then, it'll kick off debates i'm like this is how george would have wanted no george would have done like okay i don't give a shit y'all y'all just put people of color in there like as a make good like for this latest one so
Starting point is 01:05:55 fine but it's wild to look at this in the context of like the lord of the rings versus game of thrones thing because variety actually they this is a headline variety Rings of Power and House of the Dragon competition is quote manufactured by the media for headlines producer says which I think it makes sense like there's constant being like who's gonna do this are they gonna best them like we've seen so many write-ups like this like this goes part and parcel with like House of dragon is so fucking lit. The shit crashed. And you can tell, because I think a lot,
Starting point is 01:06:30 for whatever reason, the media is trying to be like, who's going to win between the two of them has also been this other, like, like narrative that's been bubbling up because I think for like six or something episodes, they'll actually actually be happening at the same time. So they're like,
Starting point is 01:06:44 who's going to like, which one better, blah, better blah blah blah and the producers are like this feels very sensational we don't look at our show as being anything like game of thrones at all so yeah they're wrong though huge dragon yeah right that is an incorrect assumption that i if that if that's true they are misunderstanding their audience they. And if they really were like, who cares if we're putting it out at the same time in Game of Thrones? They're totally different and appealing to... That is incorrect as far as the average TV viewer
Starting point is 01:07:17 is viewing those as similar-ish things. And you're competing with each other. Yeah. If you like violence and bad wigs competing with each other. Yeah. If you like violence and bad wigs, pick your poison. Yeah. I'll choose the one I'm going to watch based on which one has more incest.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Yeah. And I think we know the answer. Game of Thrones, baby. Yeah. Targaryens. They don't look like that because they're looking outside the family. I'll tell you that. All the color follicles in your hair don't die unless you're fucking your sister. Yeah, for centuries. But this is what one of the producers said, quote, if you were, if you were this. So to your point, Jack, this is how they're looking at it.
Starting point is 01:07:56 And I don't know if this is a sign that the Lord of the Rings people are maybe low key shook. But they say, quote, if you were an archaeologist and a gardener, it might look similar, but they couldn't possibly be more different. I think that's sort of how we feel about the two shows. The competition is the pressure we put on ourselves and a competition we have with ourselves to see what we can put out into the world. Hopefully our series will bring people together as a sort of cultural conversation. And anyone else working on storytelling, we wish them well. I mean, they must be
Starting point is 01:08:29 very confident, but they definitely fucked up by letting this Game of Thrones series get out before theirs. I definitely would be way more excited and interested in watching the Lord of the Rings one if it was coming out during a Game of Thrones drought,
Starting point is 01:08:45 like, like we were just coming off of with like, you know, years and years, like they should have gotten this shit out. They should have like surprise dropped it like a Beyonce album a month ago. And like that fire fest documentary. They're like,
Starting point is 01:08:58 Oh, we got a fire fest documentary too. We're like, what the fuck? It'll be interesting to see if they pretend that all of Amazon has crashed because of how popular this series is.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Oh man, Prime Video, that's players absolute trash. Or what if it crashes, they make it crash because no one's watching it. Oh god, it's down, it's because it's down. So when people watch it, it the system they tried too hard the numbers were like i think what was it you said seven billion
Starting point is 01:09:31 that's not even the earth's population oh aliens are watching it everyone knows people watching it watching it but i i do because this isn't really being reported anywhere nobody's like i i'm sure somebody's like started looking into it but i i'm looking forward to the investigation into whether this is being done on purpose because i think it i think it almost definitely is well i think absolutely i mean it's like anything any self-serving organization if there's a metric you can fuck around with for your own benefit you're going, it's like me when I used to write my papers in 12.5. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:09 You know what I mean? I'm like, yeah, I'll put that shit in courier. Guess what? Cause it's eaten up the page space. Fuck out of here. And I think for them,
Starting point is 01:10:17 because like you're saying, there's a lack of sort of reliable streaming things. It's so easy to now create all this other sensational stuff to try and indicate like yeah man the shit crashed bro right but only for our only for the ops over there if you got a rope or like a fire stick or whatever i love how netflix is just like oh i we long for a show that people will talk about again they're not even in the conversation anymore stranger things is coming gone oh yeah right stranger things i didn't watch never mind we won't get into that but anyway i don't like to
Starting point is 01:10:48 watch scary things by myself because i'm a child yeah well uh casey truly a pleasure having you back where can people find you follow you all that good stuff all right you can find me on um you might have heard of it the internet casey lime my last name is spelled l-e-y instagram kc w-l-e oh no twitter kc w-l-e-y i have to have different ones unfortunately kc lie on instagram and i also have a podcast which i love no offense to your podcast also love this one it's not a competition although every time that we air at the same time uh ours crashes i don't know why i don't know anything about that. It's called the Gay Power Half Hour. It's really good. People need to go check it out. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Agreed. Find that with my drag queen, Toni Soto. We're very fun. And it's only a half hour. So easy. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? You know, do you follow the St. Hoax account on Instagram?
Starting point is 01:11:45 They're great. But we were following the story of the Finnish prime minister getting in trouble for partying a little bit too hard. She was just like dancing at a party. She's just like total babe. She's 36 years old. And there just was a good meme of, you know who the cock destroyers are? Of course the no they're these british just like unabashed for lack of a better term whores and they put it out very yeah they're great you'll you might you're just talking about commander yesterday so i was
Starting point is 01:12:18 trying to get my cock names right i was like wait do i know cock i know cock commander they're just these two giant breasted blonde women who just they got famous for posting just really just uh uh graphic conversation just like they would like you know hold the camera and like you know do a video like of their face and they'd just be like i love you know anyway you can get the point but it was it was uh them going crazy and it was like oh conservatives in finland going crazy over the finnish prime minister partying but what i loved was that women in finland started they were everyone was furious about this everyone was like you know because the other side was like she's on drugs she's in charge
Starting point is 01:12:54 of finland it's so important and so she took a drug test and she passed a drug test she was like whatever i'm just 36 years old having a good time i'm sorry that these private videos at a party that you know got out i got out But women across the country have been posting themselves just like partying and dancing and tagging the Finnish Prime Minister. And I just love the solidarity of that. Because you know, she's just trying. If it was like, if like every time like Trump dances, people go, you know, on that side go wild for him. Look at how cool we love. We love our leader. And she was just like having a good time. People don't like young women. How about that?
Starting point is 01:13:28 There you go. Turns out. But St. Hooks is a great thing to follow. Follow them. Those names are hilarious. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, man, you should find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. If you like basketball, check us out.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Miles and Jack got mad boosties. That's the basketball podcast we drop every Thursday. And if you like basketball check us out miles and jack got mad boosties that's the basketball podcast we drop every thursday and if you like 90 day fiance and you like weed like me then check out my other podcast for 20 day fiance with sophia alexandra uh let's see some tweets that i like one was just kind of cool this is is just from, uh, this is from Erica white, white trash socialist tweeted. Uh, she's like clearly like has a hard hat on looking dirty. And she posted a picture of herself with a peace sign and said, it's hilarious how people who have never worn a hard hat or worked a single day in a trade keeps speaking for us. LMAO. I have no student debt and elect, and I'm an electrician. And I think all student debt should be canceled and college should be free.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Cope harder. Which I've seen a few posts like that. People are like, what the fuck, man? Yeah, education should be free. And one more. Tyler at Tyler02020202 tweeted me. This Diet Coke is so Lana Del Rey vinyl. My dad.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Have you applied to any jobs yet uh education can't be free because then you get an educated proletariat and that's dynamite according to ronald reagan's education advisor yeah i think he meant the bad and also what you gonna do if we don't have enough destitute poor kids to put in the meat grinder of our military imperialism campaigns? What the fuck? Yeah. That's what a few other people have said out loud. Yeah. To give you a classic Gore Vidal joke, he once said there was a fire at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Unfortunately, they lost both books. And he hadn't finished coloring in the second one yet um great tag yeah anyway all right some tweets i've been enjoying alex schmidt at alex schmitty said nothing but respect for my ppp loan program and it was a old nancy comic where she goes, visit our loan department. And she says, I'd like to borrow $2. And the banker says, what for? She says, the circus is in town. And he says, it is.
Starting point is 01:15:54 And then the final panel is just the banker and Nancy having ice cream cones at the circus. And that made me like a nice little palate cleanser for the for the news cycle and then sophie versh bow tweeted my friend just accurately described the myers-briggs test as astrology for co-workers okay i like that you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes
Starting point is 01:16:32 and our footnotes. We link off the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh, you know what? I think they might enjoy this fantastic remix of Beyonce's Break My Soul, but mashed up with Sade's sweetest taboo.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Yes, it's fucking, this shit goes off. This is called Break My Soul, but it's the Taboo, the number two, Taboo 2 remix. You're not going to find this on fucking anywhere because it's a mashup and so you're gonna have to go to band camp so this is dj yamsha y-a-m-s-h-a dj yamsha's uh band camp page and you can get the break my soul remixes but this one's fucking great uh for especially people of a certain age you're like beyonce ch, fine, say less. Let's go. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, go check that shit out. The Daily is a production of iHeartRadio.
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