The Daily Zeitgeist - GOP = KNIVES OUT, Ivermectin Doctors ALSO Scammers? 11.15.22

Episode Date: November 15, 2022

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Well, allow me to tell you, Miles, it is National Spicy Hermit Cookie Day. I don't know what the fuck that means. National Raisin Bran Day. National Philanthropy Day. National Clean Out Your Refrigerator Day. National Bunt Day, like a bunt cake. And America Recycles Day. Not really. We don't. Let's be real.

I live in L.A. where they're like, yeah, man, we recycle all this plastic. And you're like, yeah, we only do the box. You have to look at the bottom of your plastics and see what number is the correct number. America does not recycle. America lies to you.

They lie about recycling. America has recycling bins. They have the bins They have aspirational recycling Motivation But they don't actually do it good Well actually before I introduce You guy let me introduce me guy

It's me Miles Gray A.K.A Uh where is it And he's dead Okay here we go It's part of the song I'm trying to remember Where it comes in the melody Here we go Miles Gray aka

You're about to try out So you shout A ride out At six flags Zombies biting With their teeth And their arms flailing, chasing you down. At Six Flags, at Six Flags, shows are nightly. At Six Flags, at Six Flags, zombies, zombies, zombies.

zombies zombies zombie oh that's the one that's the one you really gotta hit if you respect the cranberry shout out to fighter the nightmare with that cranberry zombie aka because we were talking about the hilarious video of people auditioning to be zombies at six flags and they had to basically be like all right give your like introduce yourself and just scream out your favorite ride at like Six Flags so we know you're on some zombie shit. Okay, there was a little bit, there wasn't a lot to be admired. It was enjoyable is what it sounds like.

Yeah, but it was fun. So shout out to that AKA. But who is that? Who is that over there? Oh, it's one of our favorite guests and honestly, one of our favorite guests. And honestly, one of my favorites. I was just talking about how I love people from the Bay Area. You know him as a hilarious stand-up comedian or his many wonderful podcasts discussing seminal topics like The Wire or The Sopranos.

Hello. Please welcome to the stage Mr. Matt Leib. Yo Matt Leib, Matt Leib, Matt Leib, Matt Leib. I'm begging of you please don't change another diaper and get some sleep. What's up? what's a big daddy i didn't really uh i didn't get the landing there i didn't stick it but hey i'm happy to be here tired i have a newborn baby and yet i decide you know what fuck the baby for just a little bit i'm gonna do a podcast i feel like remember last time we caught you what like three weeks in dude less i was like the baby had just come out the vagina and i was like hold that thought baby i got a pod and wow and now any more sleep deprived more sleep deprived but also she's like now she gets a little bit longer stretches so that's nice but lots of doo-doo man she just says she's a little poop machine

that's what i hear that's what i hear about babies early on in life they're just kind of making sense of it all you know i know but after a while it's like um figure it out you know what i mean it's like what like are you stupid just Just poo normal. Idiot. Wait, what's baby rearing book are you reading? I was reading Babies Are Idiots by Jordan B. Peterson. It's about how girl babies are always trying to emasculate boy babies. And how you should put them in their place by yelling at them about how they're idiots when they poopoo their pants. Shame them. Yeah, shame them and say, this is how you keep your room?

Anyway, Matt, we are very, very blessed to actually be joined by people who are fantastic professionals in their own right. You know, they founded a boutique creative studio where they do fantastic podcasts like the very one that they host called mashup americans it's not just a clever name they are the go-to place for hyphenated americans you know just to get just get your feel of the culture because not all of us are just straight up americans you know what i mean some of us are bringing some flavor from abroad or other places so please welcome to the show rebecca lair and amy choi newborn babies well guess what you're gonna be tired for so much longer that's my you're so excited well as people who have actually you know you were on a pod

uh what'd you say like minutes after a baby popped out of a vagina? Seconds even. Our podcast, The Mashup Americans, which is coming back with us as hosts for the first time in three years. We launched it in November 9th, 2015 when I had just had a baby. Wow. Literally the same day. Literally the same day. Literally the same day. Rebecca went to Margaret Cho's house

and our producer was like, Amy, do you think you can fly out? And I was like, no, dude, because I just had a baby come out of my body. I don't think I'm flying even to Margaret Cho's house. No. But she did have a beautiful poster of Joan Rivers made of Joan Rivers trash. I think.

Oh, wow. Yeah. They were like cigarette butts and condoms. Yeah. Yeah. Margaret Cho had that or. Yeah. Margaret.

Amy's baby. Actually. That was the placenta. It was like like that's what kept the baby alive the commentary on her yeah but i did read that jordan peterson for babies book and it's going so well for me it's a great book it's a great way to teach yourself about how babies are a part of the problem. I'm crying again. Babies are... Do you ever watch Disney movies? Emasculate.

I'm sorry. No, he's a great guy. You know, I thought someone was going to say the David Cross album, Shut Up, You Fucking Baby. Also a fantastic child-rearing book. But please, please, before we get to know you better, Rebecca and Amy, let's let people know what we're going to be talking about. Just want to check in with a quick right-wing grift. Remember America's frontline doctors?

Remember that group? They were like, we're the doctors that are willing to throw our license in the trash for some quick cash. Well, that shit is such a mess. I had no idea. We'll talk about that because they're fighting each other over some money now as it happens with grifters. And also, just checking in just with the GOP right now. just checking in just with the just the gop right now everybody hates the either the party or trump or themselves but not quite owning it owning up to the fact that maybe it's the fucking policies but yeah whatever it's anybody but the policies so we'll check in with just all the hateration

that's going on as it becomes more and more of a circular firing squad but let's get into it uh before we do all that and even more baby talk. But first, we got to ask our guests, Amy, Rebecca, whoever wants to go first. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are or what you're into right now? Oh, well, I was just negotiating, not negotiating, receiving orders, my marching orders from my sister for Thanksgiving. And I was tasked with cocktails. But she did the thing where like she pretends that she's giving you freedom to be like oh can you handle booze and i was like yeah sure what booze she's like oh i don't know what do you think and i was like well what about this and two seconds later she's like you know it'd be really great as negronis and i

was just like you know just like you're my big sister just tell me just just the pretending that like as a type a control freak person embrace it just be like no you need to bring this for me so anyway i was just doing some negroni research and i learned that there's a thing called a white negroni which sounds really racist but also delicious it's it's okay lily with vermouth and gin and the stuff and i was like you know i bet so i'm gonna make white negronis that was my i had a white negroni the other day was it good racist delicious also i just watched that show drink masters on netflix that i kept trying to hate but kept loving watched all the way to the end it's like it peters out but it was fun to watch people

make cocktails for a while negroni is very like your your brand of podcast like the hyphenate you know what i mean like kind of makes a lot of sense that's right i like there's i've completely missed the negroni wave there was a time when i like i mean it's still happening now i mean like there's a there's a there's like places that's like yeah man you gotta try their negroni i'm like i i don't i'm i don't i don't even like saying the word to be honest you shouldn't you shouldn't but you know what i'm gonna say like the my my lazy girls cocktail is how it's always been like a campari and a little bit of that like grapefruit soda on ice and it's just like it's easy feels good to drink at like 4 p.m don't feel like i need to

wait till five for that one exactly the negroni like i'll say something i don't i don't wait till five anyway so i don't need a reason you know yeah this is actually the alcoholic synonymous i didn't used to i didn't wait till any i just went for it, which is why I'm 13 years sober. So I hope for you guys to find Christ in your life as soon as possible because you are heathens drinking alcohol. You said we should find Christ. Is that a new bar that opened up? Yeah, yeah, that's a new bar. Find Christ.

It's in Highland Park. Oh, it's on Eagle Rock, right? Yeah. And they put new bar. Find Christ. It's in Highland Park. Oh, it's on Eagle Rock, right? Yeah. And they put a little communion cracker. I don't know what those are called. It's a church on York. It's a Jew. Yeah, I don't get it.

Oh, you and I are both this hyphenate. We're both Jewish. Okay, so I have a soundboard. That is Kanye saying Jewish. No. Oh, no. So I have a soundboard that is Kanye saying Jewish. No.

Oh, no. And so I won't be using the soundboard a lot, but occasionally I will press that button. Okay. Well, good. As a very proud Jew, I love to hear it. Set it off. It's the way Kanye said it. Because it's so offensive, but it's so playfully offensive.

What a piece of shit. What a playful piece of shit. Rebecca, what about you? Yes, that is. I was Googling when does the new Best Man TV show come out? I don't know if you have watched the Best Man series featuring, starring Taye Diggs, Regina Hall, Morris Chestnut. Right, right. Based off the film, right? Yeah.

The first film came out in 1999. Then there was the second one in 2013. And there's a new series coming out in December. And the level of excitement I feel. It might be the thread with which Rebecca is hanging on as we crawl to the end of the year. December 22nd. I have nothing to gain from this except my own happiness. It is truly one of my favorite.

And talk about people who have, not surprising, aged incredibly well. Every one of those people could watch. I hope that they do Best Man at end of life in another 30 years because i would love to watch that one too so anyways that was my it just brings me joy it's like vaguely christian undertones lots of great dancing a little bit of drama extremely attractive people great actors good sound great music oh exactly i remember i had i had the first i had the best man soundtrack uh back at night i had that cd oh that was better soundtracks were the shit yeah but back then for me it was like for 14 year old miles to like be like what's earth wind and fire yeah yeah you know what i

mean and then put that in like because i think shining star was on that soundtrack and like as by stevie wonder and a lot of things oh yeah yeah correct and my dad was like what what is this i'm like it's the it's the best man soundtrack he's like the fuck it is what are you talking about so shout out to those compilation soundtracks that were just sort of pushing me to explore more music you know it was a great one set it off yeah that's oh yeah for, for the invoke track. What you wanna be? Cause I can't pretend. Oh, don't you wanna be more than a friend? Hold me tight and don't let go.

Don't let go. Oh, your falsetto. It's so good. Wow. Don't let go. I mean, what even happens in that? That is one of the best albums of all time. Did you guys have the box on that radio, the TV channel that was like late night music cable? And it would just be.

Yeah, I watched a lot of. It was always either like what was uh wait what's the what was it like clownish one clown uh insane clown posse insane clown posse no corn corn but then he would also insult corn calling them clowns they're christians they're christians okay oh yeah jonathan he's big man Corn calling them clowns. They're Christians. Corn is Christian now? Oh, yeah. Jonathan.

He's big. Jonathan Davis is Christian? Dude, you remember when they did that MTV Unplugged? He brought up Amy Lee from Evanescence to do Freak on a Leash. Yeah, but does that make them Christian? I'm pretty sure. Yeah, because remember Monkey? Like, Fieldy went on Huckabee's show.

Oh, no. monkey like field he went on huckabee show oh no i don't want to ever update my knowledge of various members of corn right because i know it's gonna end bad it's gonna end with a maga hat somewhere along the line well that's like kid rock my name is kid yeah but all of them from the 90s i think no i don't like to think that way i like to think that they just existed in that one apolitical bubble where they're like mad at their moms and screaming making song after song about how mom is mean and teachers suck like that's good stuff i'm really glad i i didn't know you guys would love corn so much i didn't know the level of like twice

huge fan wow if you had a little bit of turbulence if there was a little bit of turbulence at home and that and that album was out follow the leader smallest bit of turbulence snorting up those songs like yeah dude got the life i feel like a freak on the leash god hates me a leash god hates me but you know who did not age well was billy corgan i just saw a clip he was eating like nachos or he was like chicken wings on stage what it's like what happened to being a rat in a cage dude what happened What happened? But I was going to say, that was my turbulent screaming song was definitely that album. Despite all my rage, I'm still going to eat chicken wings. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Oh, it says, there's an article that says, Korn's Jonathan Davis shares his problem with Christianity. So it looks like Head and Fieldy are very christian and they go to church all the time and they said how have you been to church he said he said he hadn't been to their churches he's been to church and he respects their beliefs that quote the world would be a much better place if people just stop fucking sticking their noses where they don't belong and respect people's beliefs beautiful wait i love that that's okay and then he says his only issue with christianity being quote the fucking holier than thou we're better than you bullshit oh so okay so maybe he

was dealing maybe he's trying to balance the christianity of the other members i like that he might be a normal dude like a normal dude from bakersfield who's like not the fucking you know not the stereotype of you know evangelical you know uh what do you call it central valley asshole like normal guys who are like i don't know i'm surrounded by a lot of christians some of them are good some are bad oh wow yeah because the band kind of blew up because one's like dude i gotta get into christ heavy bro and he's like yeah uh we're learning so much about corn in 2006 in 2006 davis in an interview with risen magazine i'm sure that has to be about oh wow him him rising from the tomb could be about this this is the time for your button yeah exactly davis said quote i've always been a believer in god man i just don't believe in organized religion i think people get too fanatical with it i'm not a big believer in the bible and

that kind of stuff i just believe if you're good to people they should be good back to you and that's the way i live i pray and do that stuff but it's more of a personal thing with me i'm not out there trying to broadcast it and do all the things born again christians do okay so i'm into him i'm into that oh we're into that really good this actually i know i know we were trying to stay in a political bubble but if it actually reinforces our like for this person it feels okay to me okay let's move on to overrated amy rebecca what's something you think is overrated oh i've been thinking about this a lot and it has a lot to do with our current project which is about grief and love and how to live a good life in america which is i think um how do I say this? Capitalism? Just productivity.

The idea of like being, finding utility and usefulness at all costs. I think we, I don't think it's good for us, guys. I don't know. What do you think? I don't know. Maybe it's not.

I'm not sure that I can use this time productively, so I'm not sure I can answer. As a father, as a father now, I want to say, what are you, maybe you got a damn socialist communist huh you know hitler was a communist no he was a star never mind it says right in the thing national socialist communist stalinist hitler party oh god i did explain i did explain uh the nazis to my daughter on the walk to kindergarten today oh today was the

she was today years old so that's very productive she learned about the nazis so there you go everyone has yeah we all we all we all remember that walk we take with our parents remember the time when you learned that somebody tried to murder all of your forebearers well it was today today um yeah and i agree with you and i'm we don't need everything to be productive it's very really fucking intense and especially when we've been thinking about this period of time in america and you're like wait what like like some things are just shitty it's just like everything becoming some sort of a hack or needing to have like an end that drives money or or work forward i'm like oh well why why is this a networking event why can't i

like make a friend or and it sounds so simplistic in a way but i also think like it is just damaging on our psyche to have everything need to be purposed for a specific reason as if existing in the world or like having a laugh or like making relationships is not enough well right because I mean I think that's the darkness is right society is reflecting back to us that merely existing isn't enough to be deemed human so we've internalized all that

monetizing your friendships bro I know right which is why everybody looks at some like because most people who are workers are seen as a number on a spreadsheet like that permeates to everything else and being like, well, shit, I need to also know who I can extract value from other people around me. Because it's not just about having a friendship or human connection. It's all right. Maximum fucking extraction of value.

All my friends have to be a value add. If you are in the negative, I will dump you. And I'll call you toxic as a way of moralizing it. Content warnings on all of these friendships. I've got a lot of toxic friendships, a.k.a. people who will not be a value add for me in the moment that I need them to be i love that when someone moralizes something that it's like no this sounds like selfishness

yeah sounds like we just that was some tweet you were just saying that you saw some thread oh my god in the last we all we all just saw this thread right because are you talking about the 100 yes oh my god i was like what is this pdf psychology paper about your conflict mediation dude you owe the dude 100 bucks pay me fucking money you gotta tell miles you gotta get backing tracking back tracking back tracking back so a dude post my the kind of sorrow i have about twitter genuine like this is sad and also joy that I feel being in the middle of the flames of destruction all around me but seeing this tweet was it was a guy posting and he was like so I rented my apartment the end of my lease to an NYU student and you know left a bunch of stuff in there that they said they wanted and so he was

gonna give me like a hundred bucks for the rest of the furniture and like the old air conditioner, all this stuff so that he didn't have to buy it. And so the guy hadn't been paying him. So he texted him. He was like, hey, you know, like, can you send me my money? And the guy sent him back like 12,000 responses. Let me just read you the beginning of this. So apparently this guy's accusing the student of gaslighting him for asking for his hundred dollars. Hi, Jack. I was reflecting on our conversation with some colleagues and wanted to share some additional thoughts. I know you don't know much about me, but I'm a mediator who works in racial healing spaces.

So this is no stranger to me. He's a white dude who opened up a conversation with a mediator in racial healing spaces. So it's going to be toasty. It's going to be a spicy, spicy text. I'm very excited to read the rest of it at some point. Wow. He sent him a PDF. He sent him a PDF of like a psychology of like a history of trauma and why you might communicate in conflict the way that you do.

And he was like, oh, I would like my hundred dollars. And the guy was like, I don't think that you read any of the papers I sent you. And he's like, you are correct. I did not give him a hundred bucks, dude. Why are we talking about this? Does it matter anyway? Even my $100, dude. Why are we talking about this?

Does it matter? Anyway. Just value adds, you know, value adds. Everything's selfishness in the end. Capitalism. Capitalism. That's how it gets. And Elon Musk.

All right. And Rebecca, what is something you think is overrated? You know what? I know we've been talking a lot of trash, but I actually think being stoic and being cynical are overrated you know what i know we've been talking a lot of trash but i actually think being stoic and being cynical are overrated and i i mean did i watch from scratch on netflix and weep weeping and being looking at my husband reaching out while drinking a manhattan being like our love is so beautiful love is so beautiful but i just i think you know feel like it's time to feel some shit and not feel so uh and yeah that's that's my overrated is being is being cynical being stoic not it i'm not here

for it being cynical i feel like especially to us and like in the work that we do it just it in some ways really feels like a lack of bravery like it takes a lot more to feel optimistic and then to work for what you want or what you hope to see or like what energy you want to put in the world and just being a dingus and being an asshole about everything is just it's it's like such a cheap shot yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean you gotta you gotta give yourself something to like believe in to propel yourself forward. Because I think I mean, you get so cynical out the gate that you'll truly very quickly feel like like there's really nothing to effort for in general or worth your time. Yeah, that could be a really slippery slope, especially as it relates to like looking at our current situation in this country.

Like there's plenty of people I know are like, I don't even want to watch the news you know yeah i don't know what's going on i'm like no you have to look that shit in its eye to understand like that there that there are ways to to make things better but if you're not even even slightly invested in that then yeah you're just in the fucking way i felt really cynical about the midterms and i gotta, I ended up feeling really left out when they ended up going kind of okay. I was like, oh, yeah. I mean, I knew we were going to be fine. I wasn't at all crying for weeks and weeks that fascism was going to take over and building a bunker for me and my baby. No, I was like, nah, we're cool.

We're good. I did do my annual election day at a van. But I do think it's not, I think one of the things about it is it's not about not seeing that things are shitty or things can be really fucked up or hard or scary. But it's about wanting to figure out what piece of it that you can deal with. And doesn't mean all of it, or, you know, I think the internet just stokes this, this fear, constant fear mongering about everything. And it's just, it's, we're still alive. We're living like, you know, we're living, you have have a new baby like you made a human being so now you have to make the world better yeah all by yourself despite the omni crisis despite the omni crisis amy what is something you think is underrated underrated well so this was

hard for me because something this is something i truly love and i think it is properly appreciated but it is black harry potter the universe of black harry potter stands on tiktok and on twitter and just like today rebecca sent me a clip a talk a tick a talk whatever i'm not on the app but i love it when people curate their tiktok and send it to me which was a black principal when lucius malfoy goes into her office to be like, you got to be better to my son. She's like, fuck you, dude. Get out of here. And it's just so joyful and so great. And it's really, you know, JK is a big asshole and she's gotten bigger and bigger lately.

But the joy that comes to me from specifically Black Harry Potter fans is great. That's all. My TikTok algorithm now serves me. Because it knows that you like to send it to me. 25% of it is Black Harry Potter fandom. And I'm like, I'm so happy to observe this niche fandom. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me. Shout to observe this niche fandom thank you thank you

shout out to a niche fandom on tiktok because there's always times i'm like wait these people are fucking with what music oh my god i love it yeah like i had no i had no idea how big country music was in africa like i had no idea that wait i am not on that niche yo they're doing line day they are yeehan it up in like nigerian shit wow i love it yeah wow what about you rebecca what's something you think is underrated i think being with people in real life i don't know like i actually turns out being an embodied person who like like seeing people and being together with people makes a difference. And I never want to go to an office again. Let's just be super clear about that.

I want to choose where I'm going. But being with people in community, like going to drink white Negronis out at a real bar and look at people and see what they're wearing and be with friends. Turns out that makes me feel alive. And I love it. It's the simple things we forget. You know, I can't, other than TikTok, which I do, my algorithms really, it's really understands me now.

And so I can spend hours doing that, but it's not the same as being, um, you know, a human being in a body. Okay. That's a very good adult analysis. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to just, just check in with America's frontline doctors and the hard work they've been doing. Not my doctor. Not my doctor. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline,

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America's frontline doctors. They, you know, are, I guess I was going to say were, they are the right glowing face of medical misinformation in the age of COVID. Their founder, Dr. Simone Gold, was an emergency room doctor in LA who found a way to just, you know, get some attention by prescribing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to dying people and quickly gained notoriety that way. And then began this organization that raised over $10 million facilitating this kind of bullshit

about getting you in touch with people that will give you horse paste. So she started off just on her own. Then she got together with other people who have no business calling themselves doctors and made the group official. They even helped put together that, I don't know if you remember,

the White Coat Summit press conference that was in D. dc with a bunch of medical quacks where there was that woman i think estella four seasons no yeah yeah but this is just them getting together i'm like yeah see this is all nonsense we can just get out of covid by completely ignoring it and even like vice president pence like visited them during that time like sort of adding legitimacy to the whole thing but it was clear even then that the group was completely fucked when like the biggest star from that event was this woman stella emmanuel who was like you know just like aside from saying like really terrible bullshit medical treatments for covid other videos came came out where like Donald Trump was like retweeting like her take about how like these medicines work.

You're like, oh, that woman you retweeted said that fucking demons, like having intercourse with demons is bad for your health and that vaccines are literally using alien sperm to make people or prevent them from becoming religious. Do you have anything to say about that? That's what I learned in science. Isn't that how it works? Alien sperm? Yeah.

I mean, if we're being fair and balanced here, her first statement is true. Fucking demons is not good. We learned that on Game of Thrones, right? Yeah. Right.

Yes. You fuck a demon, then you're going to have a demon gate baby. What was her name? Melania? Melania. Melania Trump has sex with, uh, with, with Stannis Baratheon and kills his gay younger brother. Melania Trump has sex with With

Stannis Baratheon and kills His gay younger brother So do not have sex with demons I think we all learned that I think yeah that is fair I mean I don't think Someone's gonna be like I don't know Having sex with demons is good for you Like that would be an interesting debate

I think that's what they're going for though Wait but did you guys notice how like nasa and the government was like yo there are lots more ufos coming to earth so we gotta prepare for it and then we were all just like but the midterms are we talking about this like we talk about it fairly frequently on this show like it's definitely like he's like i want to meet them i want to see them i'm like bro you saw a rival like the one dude who amy adams had to replace remember him he was all fucked up he was like babbling and shaking his shit i don't know if we can handle that although there there was a story that went along with like governments or

like researchers saying like we need to figure out like what our plan is to like talk. And I'm like, wait, what? I'm like, why is all this ramping up suddenly? Like y'all talking right now. And you're like,

just going to slow roll this thing out. It's like, yeah. So we've been vibing with them for about 10 years now. And here's a nice gift, Christmas gift for everybody. Wait, wait,

can we, I need to talk about these terrible doctors more though yes i'm sorry what what is the demonic sex that maybe they maybe they'll know how to communicate with aliens yeah what what the fuck happened there so okay so all of these people right they're all doing the lord's work and by the lord i mean i don't know who sat Satan or whatever dark Lord they really worship, greed. The people who worked there last week found suddenly like some common Twitter employee. They're like, wait, none of my accounts are working. I'm locked out of all these things

that I need to do my job. Do I have, do I have job? And this civil war has basically been like, has been raging on for a minute between simone gold the founder and the board of america's frontline doctors and ever since you know things have been a little up and down over at america's frontline doctors ever since simone gold took a little sightseeing trip to the washington dc area i don't know sometime around january 6 2021 And she got caught up in some kind of... Big tourist attractions that day. Got caught up in some event where, as a doctor, she completely went back on her

duty of care and watched a police officer just get beaten down and just kept going. Well, she's a doctor. She was wanting to make sure that the cops got medical attention after she beat the shit out of them. She's like, this one's not getting medical attention.

And also, I'm trying to be literally on the front lines with this shit. So you can't say this isn't on brand for me. That's true. She got the front line part. So ever since then, things have gone sideways. She did about 60 days in jail. But when she came out, all of the maga misinformation world was like yay she came out looking like fucking you know nelson mandela some shit yeah like they were like yeah yeah look at

this she's the goat and once she was charged she resigned from her board seat but then like was starting to try and like take control from outside like she immediately like launched a harassment campaign against her replacement and then the, she eventually resigned due to a combination of too many threats from Simone Gold and saying, I don't think I want to be part of any legal operation here. So she quickly found the exit. And once she was like, once the board was like, man, we got to find a way to like really formulate a case against her to get her out, they did an audit of her spending. And you'll never guess what they found in her time as the face of America's frontline doctors. First off, she bought a $3.6 million mansion in Naples, Florida, where she currently lives with her younger underwear model boyfriend. That's the frontline.

That's the frontline. Exactly. And her young underwear model boyfriend That's the front line. That's exactly. Uh, and her, and her young, uh, underwear model boyfriend was also a Jan sixer. So,

you know, birds of a feather and all that. Uh, she also bought three cars. She has monthly expenses that are coming, averaging out to about $50,000 a month. Oh my God. Yeah.

You know what her house, you know what her, her house, that's, that's her personal spending. You know what her bills are? You know what her house cleaning bill is per month? Damn. Yeah. You know what her house, you know what her, her house, that's, that's her personal spending. You know what her bills are? You know what her house cleaning is per month? Yeah.

$5,600 per month being spent on house cleaning. Well, when you did an underwear model, you know, it's going to get a little domestic labor. They, yeah, it gets wild.

And she even tried to get like him a bigger salary by taking one of the doctors that works for them and cutting that doctor's salary in half be like they're good cut his salary in half give the other half to my boyfriend so he can buy me gifts now so it's been a bit of a like just a circular firing squad they're on top of all that she started a like thing called gold care health it's like a health bespokepoke healthcare service where people buy fucking tokens that correlate with the medical care they need. It sounds like she also has people who are working on that scam healthcare thing living out of her gigantic mansion that she bought with all the America's frontline doctor cash. Wow. Medical NFTs.

Is this giving me like r kelly energy there's like a lot whenever there's a mansion where people are then working out of it who don't act there's you know it's like playboy mansion like the you know like there's some kind of weird vibes this probably has more like entrepreneur like vc crypto like hustler vibe more than that but i don't know like an influencer house yeah it's like silicon yeah it's like an incubator but for for for getting measles believe in vaccines right i mean but also like the evil genius of calling it frontline whatever whatever when it's like so close to doctors without, it like sounds so close to almost being legitimate and something that could be good for humanity

instead of the exact opposite. But that's a classic right-wing move that sometimes I would be like, hey, I know we're better at like creative stuff, but can you guys give us a little tutorial on marketing? Because like, it's like Family Research Council. That sounds great. Right, Guess what?

They'll research you to be fucking have no job and only be required to be in your house birthing children. There are plenty of dark money groups on the left that have those kinds of names. Really? Yeah. I worked for a couple back in the day. Oh, my. I love.

Well, you know what? Love to hear it. I'm glad somebody's learning something. Talk that shit. I love, well, you know what? Love to hear it. I'm glad somebody's learning something. Talk that shit. Let's talk about FEC violations

when your nonprofit is coordinating with a political campaign, despite that being the rules. But everyone fucking does it, and it's true. Who does it? Wait, did you guys talk about how the Dems actually did some,

like, supporting the primaries, supporting some of the most mad oh yeah we talked about the rat fucking oh yeah well also and how like how how that makes you like less impressed with like their win because you're like y'all still democrats still need a fucking platform it can it can't just be these motherfuckers are wild like no and that's what they did they were like we can we can we can walk we can like backstroke our way through the midterms if we just get enough of these motherfuckers and i'm like i think most people would have appreciated some real like turnt up rhetoric on like like corporate profiteering literally anything like yeah yeah right no it is kind of amazing

that people are like yeah but they were in power for just the last two years and had majorities in the Senate and the House and the presidency and they didn't do anything. And people were like, yeah, good. And you're like, what? What do you mean good? Like, right. I'm tired of Washington doing stuff, says no one. no one right but i mean like yeah because the like because with the inflation reduction act i mean it was like the most we've ever spent on climate you know anything because we don't spend anything so it's like hard to be like yeah let's go when it's like the bar was zero yeah two dollars i will say friends in the in environmental space they said that this is like probably the biggest most important environmental bill of our lifetime like they were very enthusiastic about the bill even though you're right it should be like like 70 of our gdp spending should be on something like this probably

yeah when again when you look at like the amount of just military spending and you're like yeah jesus christ every time i see like whenever i see like military helicopters fly over la i'm like wow there goes a lot of insulin my most joyful moment of the past week on the internet had to have been eli lilly losing yes so much money beautiful but the delight the delight of them then having to defend sorry for the misinformation jk we're still gonna charge you out the ass for your still making profits and owning the market in america unfortunately you aren't a value add for us as a friend. No. Sorry about that. You're toxic. You're toxic with your needs.

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listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and the republicans y'all i mean you know for all the all the chaos that's going around they really should just change their name to the fucking knife party at this point. To the Republicans. Yeah. Whoa. How about that? Tell them.

Take that, motherfucker. Fucking windmill on them, Matt. Don't hurt them, Matt. Don't hurt them, please. Posterize them right there with that one. Yeah. But, like, at this point. Red Wave or like Red Graves. Hey, alright.

Vanessa Redgrave, am I right? Yeah. Alright. Alright. Right now, the party of personal responsibility wants fuck all to do with any concept

of responsibility to do with the midterms. Although it should be noted that the Republicans look like they will have around a two seat majority in the House with current projections. There's still stuff that's up in the air, but that sort of seems like where things are going to land. And also, it should be noted that over the weekend, the Democrats were able to, you know, solidify the majority in the Senate with the runoff being just a little bit of a one, just a little icing on top of the cherry, if that's how that goes.

I don't think that's how it goes. But let's check in with some of the saltier beings on the right. First up, Sarah Palin. She is just just going out the at the party itself for letting her be herself she put this ig post that this uh daily beast or this article the independent describes as in a conspiracy-laden instagram post miss palin blamed the quote kaka mamey ranked choice voting system senator lisa murkowski and the quote dark dysfunctional gop machine after she was seemingly trounced by Democrat Mary Poltola for a second time in three months.

Shout out to Mary. Goes on to say, quote, this is from Sarah Palin. The GOP establishment deserves losses until it's willing to fight for what is right. So we have somebody saying they didn't let me be MAGA enough. And they're like, that was the problem. They were trying to they were trying to unMAGA you. They were trying to un-MAGA you. But go off, Sarah. It's fine.

I keep forgetting she exists. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think so do the voters of Alaska. Right. Yeah, because when she comes back, they're like, oh, my God. What is this, like a throwback meme? All right. I guess we'll see what happens.

throwback meme? Alright, I guess we'll see what happens. Chris Christie, who on a given day could have a take that makes him sound like Don Jr. or James Carville, depending on how he's feeling. You never know, because he's so flip-floppy. He was back on his anti-Trump shit. He said,

quote, almost every one of these Trump-endorsed candidates that you see in competitive states has lost. It's a huge loss for Trump. And again, it shows that his political instincts are not about the party. They're not about the country. They're about him. Yeah.

But y'all knew that. You've been saying the same thing since 2016? Right. Everyone knows this. Yeah. Everyone knows this. The question is whether or not you are complicit in allowing him to continue to do it. I mean, everyone knows what he is.

And everyone knows that his political instincts are completely about self-preservation. And whenever he loses, everyone's like, oh, what a loser, huh? Could never be me. And then he wins something and be like, I love you, master. It's just like a spineless bunch of fucks like and i just and there's a the actually jamal bowie i don't know if that's how you pronounce his last name but in the new york times last week wrote about like this really this was before the election but it's like doesn't have to be this way you don't have to be an election denier to like you just you could just choose not to be you chose to be like it's your choice you fucking assholes they have a real

problem because they already are like a party that's willing to say anything to anyone no matter what it means and because of that no one has a sense of center like at all yeah they're just like if you have no shame. Yeah, for sure. They're all like these they're all creatures. They're all like organisms and this like nebulous thing and they're like what are we today? Fascist or super

Christian and we care about baby or it's this. You know like and so I love the impression of an amoeba. I think you should do a whole podcast as an amoeba. think you should do a whole podcast it's an audio visual experience you gotta see my uh my what my celia on the out thank you so much i don't have a flagellum if you are curious what this thing looks like it's all celia it's all celia but you know so like for. But, you know, so like, for example, Elise Stefanik and J.D. Vance, they're already endorsing Trump for 2024, even though as of this recording and when they gave the endorsement, Trump has not ran for has not announced his candidacy. Although we believe that's going to happen Tuesday, the day you hear this.

So who knows? Get ready for that. But it's just he's you know, what's interesting is like Trump is, they don't, he's really hard to deal with because he doesn't, he doesn't conform to anything they're used to because like, he's dumb, but also has an unsettlingly good instinct for amassing influence. So, and every year he gets more erratic, he gets like less cunning, like in the way that you're like, Oh, that's a finesse thing. He he's just like just the mass just completely comes off more and more and more but the establishment parties are the establishment figures in the party like look on as if he's like this pokemon on his way to its

like final powerful form and they just kind of stare and do nothing and honestly the fact that they didn't fucking impeach him after january 6th they basically hit him with the gamma rays that made bruce banner the hulk at that point because now you've fully been like yo you had your shot right there and now you're stuck with him and he's become the brand and now anybody who wants to stop him is basically saying i'm diametrically opposed to the brand and go ahead like let's see some fireworks then it's very exciting cynicism that i was saying this overrated i feel like it's this idea that everything is fucking inevitable like he oh he's inevitable you're like no he's not we could just you could just not stare you could just not gamma ray him you could just make a different fucking decision And instead it's just

It's so disempowered It's just so fucking cynical It's just about money Maybe disempowered is the wrong thing Because it's all about power Well it disempowers the people who Actually do have the power to do something If you're a Republican in the House or Senate

During January 6th You have the power to do something. If you're a Republican in the House or Senate, during January 6th, you had the power to not gamma ray him, to not make him above the law, and you didn't. And so now everyone else feels... Mitch McConnell was right there. Yeah. Mitch McConnell was right there.

And throughout the whole midterms, he was like, man, we have a Senate quality problem. Yeah, motherfucker, because you're not challenging any of Trump's weirdo picks, and you're going against you spent all this time being the grim reaper

and bringing all these majorities to the Senate. And then this guy just comes. He's like, we need more people who deny the election from two years ago. And they're like, that's not the best.

Also, the people you're running in Arizona for Governor Doug Ducey, he could just go for reelection and have a better chance at winning than a democrat just it looks like is about to happen because carrie lake again is like fascist real housewife like with her whole presentation her vaseline yeah i gotta give it up well she's just made of vaseline is what i assume but no go on vaseline on the lens on the lens just like yeah she's

soft a nice soft bloom there's always a nice bloom around her because i'll give it to her she has like a tv anchor person she understands lighting unlike any of these other people because every time she was on tv she had perfect fucking lighting like she like literally was doing a talking head bit in a real housewife show i was like okay good for you you have that dialed in anyway bootstrap boys please go ahead and walk into the fire you know try and rest control of your party i'd really love to see it from here just to see how many y'all like take one step into the breach and be like never mind because it doesn't seem like y'all have a winning hand there i do love watching them all turn on each other, though.

It's very nice for me. It's cathartic. You know what? Let's play. Let's give ourselves a little bit of a treat. I do want to play this clip from Ted Cruz on his podcast where he's just talking about, like, who's to blame for the midterms? He's like, I'm pissed.

Ted Cruz has a podcast? Yeah, yeah. It's called The Verdict with Ted Cruz. Oh, yeah. It's called The Verdict with Ted Cruz. Oh, Lord. Check. So this is a little soundbite of him doing a little bit of, you know. Mouth breathing? Yeah, post-mortem on the midterms.

Okay. The rage Americans are feeling across this country, the rage that I'm feeling, there are almost not words to describe it because this opportunity was screwed up. It was screwed up badly, and the people are going to pay the price are the American people. The country is screwed for the next four years because of this. We're going to see horrible left-wing judges confirmed for the next two years because of this. We're going to see judges taking away our free speech rights our

religious liberty rights our second amendment rights it is an enormous missed opportunity and and i gotta say it it is hard to describe my feelings as anything other than rage right now uh yeah it's all it's all those judges uh that are in the supreme court i think that are the ones taking away the rights i know literally away the rights that you guys lost and also do you know which americans are not upset all of the ones who voted the majority of them yeah those people turns out you're talking to a small group of people there teddy but i just also i i wanted to bring up that point because it has to be mentioned that he also was puffing his chest out about here are my cruise 25 picks for 22 victory fund he had the cruise 25 for 22 victory fund where he was courting donations for these house races that cruise was focused on helping us deliver a majority

and i gotta tell you man of the 25 24 of the people that were new like are people trying to uh challenge an incumbent fucking nine won their races he did he was nine for 24 this motherfucker swung out that he struck out bad so he's also part of that tucker carlson crew of people who are like i'll tell you where to put your money. I know where it goes. Then when the shit goes left, he's like, I don't know. I'm so mad. We need to figure out what's going on. It's like you were have no you're an invertebrate and you went with the with the MAGA shit.

And that's why it went that way. With the invertebrate. I just it's just such a pleasure to watch evil people fail. Yeah. Yeah. It's a rarity these days. It's a rare pleasure. So it's nice to a pleasure to watch evil people fail yeah yeah it's a rarity these days so it's nice to feel it and see it and also them being like being like yo they tripped because their shoelaces are untied watch they're not gonna look at their shoelaces again and try and get back

up and they're doing that they're like watch they're not gonna try and actually figure out what the fuck the problem is they're gonna just the floor is covered in rakes and they keep stepping on the rakes and it hits them in the nose did you see jesse waters the clip where he was talking about it's single women and the reason that single women they should got to get married and then then too many single women there's too many single women and that's and once they get married they no longer vote democrat and you're like once call in your white friends bitches what they need to do is get married to a cop with anger issues who will stand over their shoulder as they vote and that's how we'll

solve this thing ding ding very unsettling that was mcnulty saying what the fuck did i do? That was McNulty saying, what the fuck did I do? Sorry. Sorry, McNulty. Rebecca's never watched The Wire. Oh, man. The first two episodes, it was so stressful to me, and it was already after the whole thing was done. I was like, I can't be stressed for four years

or whatever. You shit all over yourself. You shit all over yourself. That's exactly how it felt. Well, I gotta say, Rebecca, Amy, it's been fantastic having you on the Daily Zeitgeist again. Please come back. I promise Jack will be on the next time because every time I'm like,

God, don't miss this. But where can people find you and follow you and support all the fantastic work that y'all do? Yes, we have a brand new show out today a series from of our own podcast us talking about grief and america and how we figure out collectively how to think about the past instead of just pushing it down so that we can have a better future and um it's out now. It's called Grief Collected. You can find it on the Mashup Americans feed,

anywhere you listen to pods, or go to griefcollected.com. And we promise that it's actually really joyful to talk, have these really intense, beautiful conversations about kind of just like, turns out, loss and grieving is just what it means to be alive

and to love. Good grief, if you will good grief yeah isn't that i think that is a podcast yeah okay yeah shout out to that pod but oh shit i mean it's like anything any like fucking first instinct idea is a fucking pod like you can almost or an improv group so that's one of the two. That's true. That's fantastic. But yeah, grief is so important. And I think it's so important for people to not. So much of my own personal development and growth has come from actually confronting a lot of situations where I wasn't grieving properly. That was sort of one of the big steps I had to take to move into a healthier healthier, like emotional space is to like, typically you think grief, you think about something where you're grieving.

You're like, I don't want to think about that. Fuck that. Fuck that. Put that over there. And a lot of the work I've tried to do is to transform my grief into understanding that grief is it's just the other side of the love token. That's exactly it. And it's actually there's so many kinds of loss and grief that we all are always like even the loss of the future we thought we maybe would have almost everything we talked

about today like looking thinking about climate thinking about kind of a a dream of an american government that didn't devolve into january 6th thinking about you know a loss of hope or a cynicism i think you know grief in america is often very simplistically defined or thought about as simply death a death loss and that is certainly a huge one but also right now like it feels like we're on the precipice of something which i think your show goes into so much like what is in the American psyche. And it turns out like a lot of it is unprocessed, unmetabolized grief. Yeah.

And so it's just, it's been super, it's actually been super fun. We laugh, we cry. We really hope you guys all listen. Oh yeah. Important.

And did you say your handles so people can find and follow you in that? Did you say that? Yes. At mashup American on all the social and you can go to griefcollected.com to find all the information i don't i just scroll tiktok but i don't have my own hand okay okay okay you can find me at awesome choy for as long as twitter still exists i'm there i'm gonna i'm there are we taking bets about when it won't exist? What's the bet? I think this week we'll have a massive fuck up. I feel like we're due for something where everyone's like,

y'all shit not loading either. And that'll probably happen. But they fired everybody. Who's going to fix it? It breaks. It breaks. The people they begrudgingly hired back. But then they're like, these people we hired back are assholes.

Just wait for the knowledge transfer and then fucking boot them again. It was like a leaked fucking exchange for people at Twitter. So, yeah, I feel like I would be willing to bet massive fuck up for user experience this week. Okay, great. It's got to be in the books. I look forward to checking it out. Glad it's in time for the launch of our new show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know if it'll fully fall apart this week. I don't know. And see, that's my optimism. Yeah, you know what? Totally. I love that. And Matt, congratulations on, this is your first child. My first baby.

Congratulations on becoming a dad. That's really fucking awesome. I'm very happy. And I'm so tired. So tired. Has the baby poo. Do you have one of those charts? This is when my,

I, I blacked out a lot from the early days, but I specifically remember like a picture chart that some. Yeah. Is it mustard? Yeah. Yeah. Mustard seeds. Yeah.

Yeah. We're past mustard seeds. We're now at green. Mmm. Green disgust. Pasty stuff. Close to pasty. Not yet paste because she's not eating solid foods.

But, you know, hey, listen. A poo-poo by any other name would smell as disgusting. Oh, God. The mustard seeds. Rebecca and Amy, was there any tweets or other works of social media that you wanted to shout out aside from that hundred dollar tweet oh I want to shout out this guy on TikTok called Jesus Nalgas who does impressions of basically oh my god it's so public school administrators and and it is a the green screen is like the the the woman at the front desk at school or the nurse

and he is so funny and it's so accurate and there's always this lady called look a kid called olivia who's always like olivia olivia is always doing wrong and he brings me so much joy so jesus nalgas i big shout out to him on tiktok i like when like the national parks their social media when they're saying things like don't lick the psychedelic toads things like that really bring me joy again things that i think really bring us closer to the american psyche just knowing that people are traveling to like the desert being like gotta find me one of those toads oh wow i'm not cynical but people are so stupid anyways with that thank you what about you matt thanks for guest co-hosting today where can people find you follow you on some social meds that you want to distribute uh

you can listen to my the wire rewatchatch podcast, Pod Yourself The Wire. And we just wrapped up the first season, or we're about to wrap up the first season. And we've done all of The Sopranos and our Sopranos Rewatch podcast, Pod Yourself A Gun, in which Miles and Jack have been guests. So check those out and give us five stars in the review and stuff.

At Matt Lieb on Twitter, at Matt Lieb Jokes on Instagram. Please follow me. Okay. My favorite new tweet. I was just looking through because I realized that I hadn't found one yet. And apparently Pete Davidson is dating Emily Ratajkowski. Oh, yeah.

Or Ratajkowski. I'm Ratta. Yeah. Yeah. Emily Ratajkowski. Oh, yeah. Or Ratajkowski. Amrata, yeah. And someone wrote, convinced, at The Real Arms wrote, convinced we're in a simulation and Pete Davidson has admin access. I love that.

That is, I mean, they're not wrong. That motherfucker better have six dicks. I don't understand how this is possible. I mean, they're not wrong. That motherfucker better have six dicks. I don't understand how this is possible. I mean, look, there was another person who tweeted. They were like, I don't understand why people are so confused. Like women have been saying they like nice guys who can make them laugh.

So by all purposes, for all purposes or intents and purposes, you could assume that he's probably a nice guy and is funny. Yeah, he's probably nice, funny, and also doesn't hurt that he is very, very famous and has a great track record in terms of, seems like all of his girlfriends, past and present, are like, I don't have anything bad to say about him. Yeah, seriously. Well, didn't Ariana Grande did, right?. Didn't Ariana Grande, I did, right? Wasn't she? What did she say? In her album or something?

I think we're not here to say, we don't give the final judgment. That's for God. That's for God and the Korn, two of the members of Korn. Obviously, thank you so much. They were the ones who will pass final judgment on Pete's soul

when he transitions to non-physical. God is Jewish. Okay. That's my time. Let's see. Let's see.

You can find me on Twitter, Instagram, at milesofgray. Some tweets I like. This one is from Josh Gondelman at Josh Gondelman tweeted,

In a better world, Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump wouldn't be vying for the presidency but rather running competing small town used car dealerships and making increasingly vicious commercials to run during local sporting events hell yeah yeah that that that seems like that's what it should be another tweet i like is from uh at kitan jo uh kitan joshi tweeted uh here's the most awkward custom search function i've ever created everyone you follow who's also paid elon eight dollars for a dodgy tick the search of shame and he put a hyperlink there that auto fills your search bar so you can see who of your uh the people that you're following switched to blue check land if you

were so interested in such a thing, because look, the last days of Twitter getting pettier and pettier. What can you say? You can also find me on my other podcast with Jack miles and Jack got mad boosties. That's our weekly NBA podcast where we talk all things basketball, as well as my other show for 20 day fiance with Sophia,

Alexandra, where I get high and talk 90 day fiance. Speaking of hyphen Americans, that's the great experiment, 90 day fiance. Seriously. Yeah. Mad boosties. I thought it was going to be a show about vaccines.

That would be wild about people who are real fucking upset about getting a booster, too. Mad days. I shouldn't have got that shit. It hurt my arm. Fuck my boosty. I slept weird. I sweat a little bit right after. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We've got a Facebook fan page and website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where I post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes! Thank you, Matt, so much for hitting us with that. Where I post the links to all the articles we talk about and also the song we are writing out on today. Want to write out on a track from this producer who I used to, like, follow all their shit on SoundCloud, and now they're making shit that's

official because they're doing it legit and now it's on Spotify and I'm like okay look at you this is K the Maestro and they're an artist from Kinshasa but then I believe moved to like London and just kind of has a really dope like you can tell very influenced by like Madlib, J Dilla, Flying Lotus things like that and this track is called gold so if you like any of those producers or k trinada you'll definitely like this track so this is gold by k le maestro okay uh so check that out we're gonna be back later today to tell you what's trending but until then we're gonna be gone for a little bit and we'll talk to you then all right y'all. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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