The Daily Zeitgeist - GOP Rappers, Civil War 2.0 10.17.17

Episode Date: October 17, 2017

In episode 7, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Ify Nwadiwe to discuss conservative clapbacks to Eminem's anti-Trump rap, a possible civil war, Larry Flynt's offer to pay out for a Trump impeach...ment & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:21 They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. They're just dreams. I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white in print. It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. host mr miles gray miles gray yes that's right young aka young biracial in the building all right and we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by mr iffy wadaway hey what it do it's your boy young greasy all right yeah that's how i confuse the people i have rap battles with because they're
Starting point is 00:02:40 thinking of greasy rhymes when we schedule the battle right they see you yeah and then and then when we show up to balance like oh it's not greasy all these greasy all my writtens are yeah been rendered inert if you what's the weirdest thing that you've searched for in the past week i guess the weirdest thing i guess so far is probably that gld shop have you seen it on facebook so i actually went on it, and they sell like plated gold jewelry, like a lot of plated gold, but they have these plated gold like lettering rings, like the pinky ring, like ASAP
Starting point is 00:03:14 Ferg has, and I've priced it out. You can get up to seven letters. How much? About like $120, $150. Oh, wow. What would you get? That's affordable. The first one's gonna be like swag with two w's that's like the white women like you know moniker and then uh me and miles are talking the second one's gonna be daily z some nice yeah cut the check jack yeah so we can
Starting point is 00:03:39 represent or gld if you're listening man hey we're looking for sponsors and we love gold jewelry. Yeah. All right. One overrated thing, one underrated thing. Okay. So overrated, I'm going to go straight up. The Daily Zyka. Boom. Hot takes.
Starting point is 00:03:58 No, overrated things is definitely going to be hating things. I feel like in the nerd world, the cool thing is your takedowns of things. Like the cool thing is like your takedowns of things. I remember, I don't know if you remember when pixels came out and that movie Bob review did a huge rant and everybody was talking about how great and funny it was, but it wasn't funny to me because one, it was written. You can tell he was just reading off this rant that he wrote.
Starting point is 00:04:19 So it wasn't really a rant since you wrote it. And second, I just felt like, yeah, everyone's going to shit on pixels. Like there's's so many people i still haven't seen it but mother everyone's like it's bad it's so bad but people are like why and they can't even tell i don't know yeah i heard it's bad that's it's boring it's lame and it's not cool but it's it's that same kind of like millennial apathy thing where it's like it's cool not to care it's cool
Starting point is 00:04:45 to be hate something and talk about how shitty it is but you can't articulate it and usually when you can it's usually explained in the way that you articulate it right the angriest i've ever been is when somebody told me they didn't like the chapelle show because it tries too hard what the to do what the fuck does that mean? Yeah. Who is this? Call out some names. A young woman named Dana. Fucking Dana. From New York.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Man, you see Dana. That sounds like a New York statement. That sounds like someone in New York. He's trying too hard. What are you talking about? All right. Underrated. Underrated. This should be good because you're sending out positive vibes all over the place.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Oh, yeah. So you've got to have lots of underrated things. Yeah, yeah. Underrated, definitely, I'm going to say these Balenciaga runners, the Yeezy runners. Wow. Everyone talks about, like, the trend is calling them ugly shoes. And it's like, no, they're just not conventional. And I think that's what makes them cool.
Starting point is 00:05:38 All right, guys. I want to get into some conservative clapbacks to Eminem's rapem's rap don't put those two words they were next to each other uh there there have been some rebuttals posted to the internet uh that if he wanted miles and i to hear so we're uh we're going to be listening to them for the first time on air so yeah i guess for any if you're living under a fucking rock uh eminem basically he had a acapella cypher verse uh for the bt awards last week and he just bodied trump it was it was okay it wasn't great but and they would say a body was like it was just nice it was more kind of geeked up off the fact that he basically told any one of his fans who's like
Starting point is 00:06:20 a trump supporter like yo just just delete my shit you don't need it anymore so i guess that inevitably created the backlash and and um and i'm so happy i haven't listened to any of these so i'm hearing it for the first time jack is hearing for the first time nick hit us with some of these damn not shady should hate trump but what about hillary's haiti nfl's dead like the snls they say racist shit But you ain't say shit You draw a line like you're Obama And you lost me Like you lost your mama
Starting point is 00:06:51 Fuck Kaepernick he ain't shit And just like the NFL He smells like shit Eminem you are shady Take them raps and rhymes Back to the 80's I just cut you up like a transgender lady. Oh no! It's all about
Starting point is 00:07:07 MAGA, baby. It's all about Trump, America, American flag, and our veterans. My name's Jose Valdez from Truth TV News. Peace. Hey, Jose. Hey, man. Way to hold it down, bruh. Hey, I'm all about American flag. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I'm all about the American flag Okay. Oh, my gosh. I'm all about the American flag. Stay at home with them. What the fuck is wrong? Just, okay. Also, what the fuck was going on in the background? Like, did he have an old Studebaker engine, like, fired up? Well, it was real hot where he was at, which I'm assuming is hell.
Starting point is 00:07:39 So you have to keep that AC on. He's in lyrical hell. All right. Give us another one. That's an awfully hot coffee pot. Should I drop it on Donald Trump? Probably not. So this is Eminem.
Starting point is 00:07:50 That's all I got. You're talking all this trash on Trump. Man, we all know you're just another Illuminati chump. Got a plan. I'll finish all her rhymes. Hatchet like a damn Apache with a tomahawk. Eminem, you think you're woke, but you're really just a joke. Joke.
Starting point is 00:08:06 You're pretty sound, crap. Man, they sound like crap. She gets a mouth. I'm finishing all her rhymes. I'm a bodyguard. Well, obviously Eminem didn't take his brain force today. Infowarsstore.com. She hit him with the nutraceuticals at the end.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Oh, is that what that was? He didn't take his brain force. He had to find out the nutraceuticals. Hey, the nutraceuticals because the end. Oh, is that what that was? He didn't take his brain for it, so he had to find out the nutraceuticals. Hey, the nutraceuticals because the fucking cucks are putting the poison in the water. Screw you, racist! Thank you, Alex Jones. That was our Alex Jones drop. So that is somebody who works for Alex Jones there, who is just responding sort of bar by bar to Eminem. Is there another one?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Oh, I think there's one more. And these are... Trump's your president. He's your president. He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a president. Trump's your president. So get over it. Stop crying like a baby and a little b****.
Starting point is 00:08:57 You mad, you mad that Hillary lost. Don't try to tell your dad Trump's a boss. He's a baller. A shot caller. I hope he build that damn wall till he taller. Build that wall. I will say, I will say just structurally much better. Yeah. This is the first good rap. Like this is an actual rap. I will say, I will say, just structurally. Much better. Yeah, this is the first good rap. Like, this is an actual rap. Who is that one from?
Starting point is 00:09:31 Silk and Diamond. Silk and Diamond is two black harpies. You know, I feel like I've got to point out that I am black. I feel like when you say black harpies, it sounds rough. You don't know I'm black. But if you heard Ify Wadiwe and anything yeah right other than this guy's probably black i just want to remind you probably yeah but yeah they there's two harpies that are his like not racist card and then that's literally like all their donald trump stuff is like oh he's racist look at him with all these black people right exactly and they're like yeah like remember the dude the black shirt trump dude who was like in some cult shit where they were decapitating people in the everglades
Starting point is 00:10:08 like those are the kinds of people of color that trump can get to support right okay but you know i was like that dude was behind him in a speech right yeah exactly at the phoenix rally him out to the front because he was like the only person of color they could find within like 15 square miles and he ended up being like part of a murder yeah exactly and and freaking out all the white people around right uh but yo i'm these raps are so fucking weak and it just shows you the like i was finishing the info wars ladies raps actually and like look i'm gonna go off top right now uh nick give me a fucking beat dude i'm gonna fucking body this is how you body the liberals homie if you want to go there we can go there this is a daily zeitgeist and you know what
Starting point is 00:10:49 guys for everybody in the alt right i mean look someone's got to represent for us and write these rhymes and you know what i'm gonna take the time and i'm gonna do this right so let's fucking drop some knowledge okay um um sorry eminem your time is over trump's our lucky chime he's our four-leaf clover snowflakes want to cry about all this police violence but when it comes to harvey weinstein all i hear is silence talk about progress voting for females how could i vote for a witch that use private emails she a old ass troll fat back with no cakes i'm gonna leave this mic right here you fucking snowflakes. That was objectively way better than... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Can we cut that clean and see if we can get the alt-right to start retweeting that? Yo, honestly, that might be my new little joke. I'm going to hold it down for all the alt-right rappers who just have no game. I watched Miles write that, by the way. It took maybe two minutes. At the most, there was like no forethought. I just said, hold on, hold on. Just give me this.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Like immediately after, if he was like, yeah, they're conservative, clap back to them. Meanwhile, like all these raps that we listen to, they have like the notebook in front of them. You know, they spent so much time trying to get those. The first one was like shitting his pants trying to get the real one. I was like, fuck it. SNL. Fuck was like, F and S and L. I'm like, fuck. Okay, Michael, let's edit this.
Starting point is 00:12:16 You guys, why are conservatives so bad at creative shit like this? There are like psychological studies that even say that liberals tend to be more creative than conservatives, which makes sense. I mean, if you look at the vast number of like comedians, musical artists, whatever, we see that they fall left of center typically ideologically. Right. And I don't know. It seems like it should be almost a mixed bag, right? Just because assuming that they're equal sort of perspectives, like why is it that all of the creative people and all the talented people all fall on one side of the spectrum? Is it like because conservatives are prone to like following rules and creativity requires rule breaking? to like following rules and creativity requires rule breaking is it because creativity requires empathy and conservatives sort of by definition lack empathy right or even that like conservatives they're more wholesome people and they're they want to keep the status quo they're satisfied
Starting point is 00:13:18 with their lives where like on contrast liberals tend to be sort of like we've got to cross boundaries we got to like yeah we got it we got to push things of like we've got to cross boundaries. We've got to push things. We've got to change things. Who knows? Although Engineer Nick is pointing out that they do have Kelsey Grammer. Oh, yeah. That's right. With an exclamation point.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Shout out to Kelsey Grammer. I think you forgot the extra two exclamation points there. Kelsey Grammer does fucking rule, and so does Tim Allen. Tim Allen. uh does fucking rule and uh so does tim allen tim allen we forgot about the up-and-coming comedian tim allen uh who's also on the right um so yeah i don't know i guess try harder guys yeah i mean like i guess jeff dunham's puppets are cool right that one that one that one puppet's kind of racist for me the fucking jihad skeleton thing? Well, just there's one who holds racist views.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Thankfully, Jeff Dunham doesn't hold those views. Yeah, these puppets are just parts of my personality. Right, right. I mean, characters. These are just characters. They're characters. It's high-level shit. You have to. But for a while, he was selling out arenas.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Like, he was that dude. Dude, Tim Allen used to get a million dollars per stand-up show. That's how much he was selling out. Oh, yeah. He was that dude. Well allen used to get a million dollars per stand-up show that's how much he was selling well it is crazy like that's how hard it is for like people who have conservative values to find talented people is that when you find a tim allen or a jeff dunham right you like he can sell out fucking like finally the carrier don't we have someone uh and like they had like one conservative wrote a moderately readable novel 70 years ago and it's every favorite conservatives novel like ayn rand is the only like passable novelist. And she's not even that good. But like it's just, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:07 So anyways. Keep taking those L's creatively. Yeah. Conservatives. And on the other hand, I don't know what it says about us that the people on the left or left-leaning people have all the creative people and we still just lost that election. Yeah. That's a tough break. I mean, we didn't use computers to our advantage.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Right. Yeah. And you know what? I mean, shout-outs to Trump. They thought out the box and were like, you know what, dude? Fuck it. Let's cheat. But they didn't cheat.
Starting point is 00:15:39 They just said yes to Facebook when Facebook was like, hey, we can basically win this election for you. I mean, look, who knows what will come out with this investigation. That's all I'm saying. I'm not going to say that it is or it isn't, but I can see the argument for both sides. Like I said, conservatives follow rules always. Oh, yeah, 100%. Oh, yeah, always.
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Starting point is 00:20:22 What is it this time? Seriously, the people who work for me take take me as a human well you you have a conspiracy about everything even from the the box toy place we have lunch bad conspiracy about them too all right so deandre harris was recently arrested uh arrested for basically they say that he caused injury to somebody on the day that he was like gang beaten by a bunch of white supremacists in Charlottesville. If you don't know him by name, he's the dude who there's all the video and photographs of him being like beaten by a big gang of white supremacists he just got arrested uh and uh charged with apparently injuring uh a guy who is a uh avowed white supremacist who just went to the charlottesville police and was like uh hey, I got injured and I saw it was this guy who did it.
Starting point is 00:21:27 According to lots of eyewitnesses, he was actually in the hospital when this guy said he was injuring him. But the police nonetheless took that, again, white supremacist's word for it and went and arrested DeAndre Harris, who has become like sort of a cause celeb on the left because you know he was uh abused and made it out of there alive and um yeah nearly fucking killed nearly fucking killed um they're also the dude who uh fired the uh like makeshift flamethrower uh from that like really famous photograph yeah yeah uh who's like firing it at uh somebody who was like trying to stab him uh with a flag uh he was also just arrested um for basically doing that makeshift flamethrower even though someone's like
Starting point is 00:22:23 literally trying to stab him with a flag. He was like, get the fuck back. I'll turn this up. Also. Also, if you see video of that interaction, there's a dude who walks by that exchange and pulls out a gun,
Starting point is 00:22:39 uh, says the N word and then fires, fires his gun at him, I believe. Uh, uh, and then walks away. And when you see him walking away,
Starting point is 00:22:50 he walks past a line of cops who do nothing after just watching this dude, uh, you know, fire a gun at people. Uh, this is all in Charlottesville on the day that Heather hire was killed. Um, so I had also heard, uh, from people who were there protesting the white supremacists and then a college professor whoKK event that happened in early July, they were just there to protect the KKK from protesters.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And then the police immediately started arresting people who were there to protest the KKK. started arresting people who were there to protest the KKK. And so I'd always had this like sort of inkling that the police were probably more aligned with the white supremacist cause than we might realize. And so I've realized you might, you who may, they might not know. Wait, you guys think that that's a known thing? What? Oh, yeah. You know, in all those like civil rights movies, when the cops pull over a black person and then get angry and then the KKK show up at their house that night.
Starting point is 00:24:16 That was a coincidence. That was a coincidence. You think they talk? Right. But so there's also all these things flying around on social media that a civil war is about to break out. About 10 years ago, and I didn't know this, so this is independent of my wildly intuitive conspiracy theory. About 10 years ago, in 2006, the FBI sent out a report warning law enforcement people across the country
Starting point is 00:24:51 that white supremacist groups were infiltrating local and state law enforcement. And the FBI was saying it's a significant threat to national security. And I can see why they would think it's a threat to national security, because if you have the police like on your know intervene or like follow the car after uh
Starting point is 00:25:28 it ran into that crowd uh like it took them a while and there or there's video of cops just kind of standing there as the guy like drives in to like basically slaughter a bunch of people uh now obviously the white supremacistsists have had their own complaints being like, well, the cops weren't on our side enough in Charlottesville. Of course. Which, you know, both sides are going to claim the refs aren't fair in any sort of pitched battle. But when you hear the white supremacists complaining about it, you can clearly hear that they assumed they had the police behind them they're like we're the blue lives matter people exactly because like the cops were acting differently when the white supremacists were there they weren't killing as many black people as they
Starting point is 00:26:15 usually do on a normal basis so it's like why'd you stop because we showed up right right exactly uh but no it is like first off that that FBI notice was like 50 years too late. It's one of the, it's like, it's a super known thing that the cops were infiltrating. And it's like that thing, like, you know, when you meet that person where it was like, you know, my dad was in the Army and my grandpappy was in the Army and his grandpappy was in the Army. It's the same thing with KKK cops, where it's like my dad was a cop and in the KKK, his dad was a cop in the KKK. There's a lot of nepotism like there is in any industry. And of course, if you set a system, like it's a no-brainer.
Starting point is 00:26:56 If you are a white supremacist and you have a way to be in power over people of color, why would you ever let that go away? Why would you not train your sons and force them to be a cop? You know, and there's so many cops who are cops because their parents were cops. So if their parents also happen to be white supremacists, there you go. So it's not a mystery. It's almost frustrating that it's being treated as such when you see it night and day. You saw it since as early as Trayvon Martin.
Starting point is 00:27:29 You've seen it since even before Charlottesville when it was Ferguson. You know, the cops aren't there to protect and serve people of color. The cops are there to enforce white supremacy and keep the white supremacists safe. You just see it even in the white supremacists safe. Right. You just see it even in the pictures where they compare the riot gear. You know, like if people are protesting, you know, they want to riot up. But like people marching with guns who have hired their own militia, they're just in their just regular old cop clothes because that's just letting the message. You're sending a message when you show up
Starting point is 00:28:05 dressed like that when you when you show up in riot gear to like a black lives matter march or like something happens yeah right you know we're gonna we're gonna bust your head open but when you show up to the white supremacist and your clothes like don't worry guys we're just here to it's like a tuesday yeah yeah we were just watching a video where a bunch of cops jumped in and pulled Antifa members off of a white supremacist. And it was like within – you could see in the background the parking garage where DeAndre Harris got beat and the cops just stood back and let it happen. But in this video, yeah, the cops jump in and pull antifa off this white supremacist they got their stun guns out they were like get off my friend but they all but they also look like they're dressed to go out and put some like parking tickets yeah on like and that's the
Starting point is 00:28:56 thing where it's like there's like antifa da da da da da it's like if antifa won it they could have beat the shit out those cops they could have beat the shit out of those cops. They could have beat the shit. Like, if you look at the way Antifa was dressed. Yeah, they looked like they were the riot police. Yeah, they could have did it, but they just did what they needed to do. And, yeah, like, that video isn't good. But also, they really kind of just wanted to rip the flag out there out of his hand if you kind of watch it. Like, they punch him a little bit. But, you know, who cares?
Starting point is 00:29:26 I don't care. I have I've left the point of giving the fuck about safety of racists when you watch stuff like DeAndre Harris. And and then no one really gives a shit. Well, yes, angry. And I don't think people realize like what that does to watch that. Right. Yeah. And what that does to you subconsciously, that that only begins to escalate in your mind.
Starting point is 00:29:47 It's like, okay, well, I'm not going to let that shit happen. Or like, I don't give a fuck. Like, it's not doing much to make people feel safer or that the issues are being addressed. It's only going to begin to build and build. And that kind of resentment is not healthy, especially for the times we're living in right now. Right. So I want to put this conversation in the context of the word civil war, because that's being thrown around out there. There is a big protest being planned for November 4th, which is coming up. up and the right wing and white supremacists are starting this rumor that Antifa is claiming that they're going to start the next civil war on November 4th, which obviously makes
Starting point is 00:30:34 whatever is done on November 4th seem immediately menacing. But the idea that we could be headed for a civil war seemed crazy to me and still seems somewhat crazy to me. But there's this guy named Keith Mines, who's a member of the U.S. Army Special Forces and has spent a bunch of time working for the United Nations in countries that are dissolving into civil war. He just got done like basically a 20 year tour that was like Afghanistan, Colombia, El Salvador, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, all of these countries that are like mid civil war. And then he got back to Washington last year and he was like, wow, it's actually scary how similar current day America feels to those countries immediately before they dissolved into civil war. Oh, so you're saying because he has like sort of a like what is it, a rubric or a checklist to go over that sort of the conditions that are necessary. Right. He actually has five conditions that he says are present during a civil war.
Starting point is 00:31:49 He says there's entrenched national polarization with no obvious meeting place for resolution. I think we clearly have that. Increasingly divisive press coverage and information flows. Check. Definitely have that. Weakened institutions, notably Congress and the judiciary. I'd say the judiciary maybe isn't that weakened at this point, but Congress certainly is a sellout or abandonment of responsibility by political leadership. Check. And then the fifth one is the legitimization of violence as the quote in or like hip way to either conduct discourse or solve disputes.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Oh, like the dude who body slammed the reporter. Right. Or, you know, just us looking at that video and being like, yeah, man, I kind of I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting. Yeah. You know, kick the shit out of these people. So I don't know. you know,
Starting point is 00:32:42 kick the shit out of these people. So, um, I don't know. Uh, it's just, I, I think we obviously think the word civil war and we think of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:52 these pitched battles in fields, uh, like the first American civil war. And that obviously is not going to happen. Right. Where there aren't going to be like other Gettysburgs where like white supremacists come in from one side of the field and the rest of us come in from another. And we like just run at each other with weapons drawn.
Starting point is 00:33:11 But also just in general, no war is fought like that anymore. We don't get down like that anymore. Exactly. But so they talk a lot in this New York article where they talk to this guy, Keith Mines, about, you know, what what a different civil war would look like. And by a lot of definitions, like Charlottesville was like what a country would look like in civil war, essentially. Or like showdowns like that. Right. Showdowns like that happening. And I also just think that it's worth keeping in mind. And I also just think that it's worth keeping in mind. They have a lot of military training on their side. They probably have all the people who are hoarding guns on their side. And then the big divide between Trump country and the people who didn't vote for Trump is urban versus rural, and the rural people control where all food comes from. None of the food that people in the city eat is grown in the city well hold on man my friends just started an urban garden in echo park so we could probably
Starting point is 00:34:32 eat some kill from the side note uh california speaking up uh we got central valley uh yeah fuck you i fuck you no you can cut that out i got very aggressive but no it's true i mean it's like there are resources but like the way like you're kind of breaking it down is very interesting to me because i think about that too and the scariest part to me is that if we did have this civil war that we kind of like not even saying this in like a way of hubris, but just in general, just geography and how, how like interested people are in this. I feel like it'd be this war that goes on in the middle of America.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And then like the, the coastal cities are kind of like whatever about it before they have to choose a side. Like, I think if a civil war started, the coastal cities would be the last to enter it. And, and that's, what's kind of weird to kind of think about is the.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah. Although I don't even know if it would be that geographically divided, like, because even though, uh, you know, Hillary won the coastal, uh, states that only matters insofar as the electoral college divides the country up into states, which are basically arbitrary. And the Central Valley is Trump country. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. When you drive through there, like all the like Congress created drought and then all these Trumps.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Oh, yeah. When you're driving into San Francisco, yeah. But I'll take care of them, guys. No. Just really start picking sides on the podcast. Those guys are doing the labor out there. I know. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Oh, can you imagine? Oh, it's like. That's the other part, too. Like, yeah, they may be. They own the farms. But, I mean, let's be real. The amount of migrant workers who actually do the actual grunt work of farming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:23 That's a whole other issue. But, yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. And that's a whole other issue. But yeah, I mean, yeah, you can, it's definitely, it is kind of an alarming thing to look at because even the guy who put that bomb at the Asheville airport, he was like, I'm preparing for a war on US soil. What guy had put a bomb at an airport? Oh, yeah, the white bomber that was horribly underreported. But yeah, I mean, like you can tell. So even there are people like that.
Starting point is 00:36:44 We should say that in case people who weren't listening to that episode, there was a white guy who left a bomb at a regional American airport last week or the week before. And, you know, they caught it before it blew up and killed anyone. But he like what was his cause? I mean, the only thing that they still know is that he in his interrogationation he just said he was preparing for a war on U.S. soil. Right, exactly. And this didn't get covered at all by the media because – now think about it. If it had been an Islamic terrorist, it would have been covered like constantly all over the place. But this was a, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:26 a white terrorist. So, I mean, if he does turn out to be a white nationalist terrorist, like that is not what we, as what Americans typically think of when they think of terrorism or there being like an actual existential threat to the existence of the United States. But I mean that,
Starting point is 00:37:46 like, I think, I think what I'm suggesting is that that might be a little bit short-sighted and a little bit foolish to not think of white supremacists and white nationalists as like an actually incredibly dangerous threat to the existence of the country. Um, I think too,
Starting point is 00:38:04 like my general idea of whether or not we're going to a civil war still goes back to my whole view on like guys like sam hyde is like no everyone's feeling froggy but no one's ready to leap no one no one is really ready to leap like here's the thing all those guys it took them all meeting up in charlottesville for them to get the balls to attack one black dude right like they if they want it if they if they really wanted to bring the ruckus uh to you know shout out to you know my boys uh the blue tank um then they would have just been going house to house really doing it but they didn't like these and that's what what it all comes down to is like and i
Starting point is 00:38:45 like deandre harris i just blame that on mob mentality you know when when your boys i think every shitty thing that is done by a group of men most most of the time is just mob mentality gassing each other up as you march you feel it's powerful you're around all these white men you're seeing these dudes with guns you know you have a private militia yeah yeah let's go attack that dude let's turn up but but now when they're back in wherever the fuck they came from they're not doing shit they're still scanning shit at kinkos they're still serving frappuccinos and you know like they're yeah they're not about that life they're not about that and the other thing you can tell too is the amount of people when they were doxxed or outed as being those white.
Starting point is 00:39:25 And they're like, well, I don't know. Yeah. No. And so that's the other thing, too, is that would be more alarming to me if those people were like, yeah, so what? Yeah. I am. I am a fucking Nazi. Like, I am fucking racist.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Like, yeah. And we're going to take this fucking country back. It's easy to get, you know, get the Twitter fingers popping. But yeah, when you have to answer to to it these people are just they they're still they're not fully committed to this idea or this ideology that they're they're perpetrating or they're or putting out there on the internet so it's i don't know they're in a they're in a weird place yeah and i'm i'm kind of basing this just on like gang culture growing up and if you if you look at like turf wars with gangs, those are like mini civil wars.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And you have those dudes. You have those dudes who like will talk all that shit. And then unless they're with the rest of their gang, they're not going to do shit. And when you get them separated, that's when they got a whole life change. But then you have those dudes who with their gang or not, they're popping off. They're crazy and they will fight, and those are the ones who end up dead because they're just running into fights, and they're getting isolated, and they're getting their ass kicked. Now, those dudes can kind of hype up the other dudes because those dudes, the crazy dudes, are the ones who hype up the weaker dudes to make them feel powerful enough to do it but i feel like on a national scale like i like and i don't want to underestimate anyone so this is just all based
Starting point is 00:40:50 on what i've seen i don't think anyone has the the bearings to talk i mean like you got these dudes going like hard like all right well let's debate at dinner and they won't even meet up for that i remember um i don't know if any of you know this comedian esterios he was in uh he challenged one of the moderators that on the donald to a fight like a boxing match and he never the guy refused in the end because they were like all right we'll box we'll box and then he was like but i gotta i can't show my face he don't want to show his face and he was like well then how would i know it's you how do I know you're not like hiring someone? So it's like, it's like, it's, it's, I feel like we live in this.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah, that's me. But I feel like we're in this age where it's so easy to be anonymous and it's so easy to be heard that like, it's easy to make people feel like you're ready to pop off when like when it all came down to it yeah yeah um so i don't know i i'm not saying that we should be like scared of them or overestimate them but i i just also don't think that uh as a threat white supremacists and white nationalists should be underestimated yes they definitely are by the media. There's definitely a cauldron that is bubbling, for sure. All right, we're going to take a quick break and be back to wrap things up. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered.
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Starting point is 00:46:22 larry flint's big offer uh he's offering – putting up $10 million. For nude pics of Trump. Well, depending. For pictures of the Spider-Man. For information leading to Trump's impeachment. Yeah, pictures of the Spider-Man. So apparently he has done this before. So apparently he has done this before.
Starting point is 00:46:51 He offered $1 million for information on Republicans who'd had extramarital affairs back during the Clinton-Lewinsky issue. And that ultimately led to the resignation of House Speaker Bob Livingston at the time. So he has been known to make these offers and then follow through on them. Yeah, I don't know. $10 million is a lot of money. Yeah, yeah. That's why I've been trying to convince my wife to let me go to D.C. and make this money. I'm out there. Yo, I'll be your street doll.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Can I get $500 off top to just be on these streets for you? Let him know, yo, Flint, $500 Gs off top. I'm on these streets streets i'm talking to these guys i'm going to the bars i'm i'm going to k street and pressing people you're like let's do it let's make this money me and miles you know me and miles i'm pulling you in with me fine we're going to dc i know where to hit up on k street yeah yeah we're gonna skype in and do these episodes jack but we got to be in dc hitting it hard i mean it's interesting because 10 million is like it's it's more money than even the promise of being in the like on trump's good side is worth yeah because i feel like people who shut their mouths are like well you know
Starting point is 00:47:54 we never know this could end up being a good move for me if i stay on this good side but fucking 10 million dollars i'm like yo i got it all sean spicer is not making 10 million dollars for the rest of his life no he's not even making 10 000 off that book right so i don't i don't it'll be interesting to see uh what this shakes loose yeah well i can just see larry flanagan just being like hey so what do you got for me oh man i was out on in the man. I went to that one, that restaurant, that New York Times, dude. Look, Larry, they didn't come by yet, but I'm waiting. The steakhouse just with the ear open. Trump has been subpoenaed by one of the women who is accusing him of sexual assault, a woman who was a contestant on The Apprentice, who he allegedly groped. asking for any documents pertaining to any woman alleging that Donald J.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Trump touched her inappropriately, which I don't know. We'll see. This is wild because I feel like years ago, just a subpoena was an impeachment. Like if you just you didn't even have to do it. Just being in that position. Like, I mean, if we think back to Watergate, how small in comparison that crime seems to like the stuff that's on Donald Trump plate, that's like, no, we're going to keep it going. We're going to we're going to it's not enough yet. It's like my man's has to like it's going to take like a picture going down Splash Mountain with Putin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Like, yeah, the GOP, they're just just trying to ride this thing out and see maybe i don't mean there will come a point where they're going to be like hey fuck it it is no longer worth it yeah well did you did you hear like one of the gop inside like i i don't i forgot where i heard this but you have definitely but like a gop insider was like we're gonna try and get the tax stuff through and then we're gonna work on impeachment and it's like what like right like it's all a game like it on impeachment. And it's like, what? Right. Like, it's all a game. Like, it's all a game.
Starting point is 00:50:08 It's like, no, no, we know. Like, it's one of those things where it's like they have a kill switch. There's like, no, we know we can impeach him. We're just waiting. Yeah, we just have to, you know, bow to our corporate masters who demand these tax cuts. The cooks. You know, and then we can take, you know, America seriously. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:26 So, yeah. It's wild. It is wild. What's making us happy, you know, and, and, and, and then, and then, and then we can take, uh, you know, America seriously. Yeah. So yeah, it's wild. It is wild. What's making us happy. You guys, what's making you happy? If he, whoo, this morning I played some of that South Park, uh, fractured butthole. Uh, what the hell does that, you get an early copy? It's called, yeah, I got an early copy, so I got my hands on it, but it's called fractured but whole, but it's just a, uh, play on words. Yeah. Um, and it, yeah, it's called fractured but whole but it's just a play on words yeah um and it yeah it's super fun what's the genre of game it's rpg so rpg with south park characters yeah and the art
Starting point is 00:50:54 because south park's art is just so like beautifully simplistic it's like you're playing an episode like you're just it looks good it's seamless and uh you know the last one the stick of truth was more of a fantasy game this one is their hero character like cartman's the coon kite man um and just you're you're the new kid and with the difficulty settings like it's easy if you're white but if you set your character darker it gets more difficult so we got we we went with the black character and it was you're playing it on god mode yeah yeah yeah we're going hard um but it's super fun the jokes are funny like just south park you know love jokes but like obviously smart takes you know obviously they did the skin color bit but then like you do submissions with the police and the design of the
Starting point is 00:51:43 police station was hilarious like there's all these pictures of people of color and it was like question on site and like, and like one mission, the cops make you go after this quote unquote drug dealer, but it's just a regular black guy in the house. And like, and it's like, so that it's, you know, it's great. It's fun. Gotta love that. That's need, need new games. Yeah. fun. Gotta love that. Need new games. Yeah. So South Park has a history of making, like, good games? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Well, no. Some of the first ones were fucking garbage. Okay. But this one's pretty dope. I feel like the RPG, what makes it good is that it allows them to tell a story. So they just basically write a long episode that you get to play and be a part of. And the combat system is really fun. Nice. I just want to shout out an Irish mosque that's opening its doors to the homeless people
Starting point is 00:52:32 when the hurricane hits. So, shout outs to the Irish mosque. Yeah. Really, just, you know, everybody needs a place to weather the storm. And the thing that's making me happy is I just learned about Miles' rap group.
Starting point is 00:52:47 From when he was a child, Miles was in a rap collective with Shia LaBeouf. Shia LaBeouf, J-Boy, Low Pro, Mike G, rest in peace, rest in power, Mike. Yeah, this was a... One of my friends, Mike, used to be on this Disney
Starting point is 00:53:04 channel show called The Jersey. And naturally, he was a – man, so one of my friends, Mike, used to be on this Disney Channel show called The Jersey. And naturally, he was friends with other kids that were on the Disney Channel. So at the time, Shia LaBeouf was on Even Stevens. And so we used to hang around, twist one up, make a little beat, and make some – spit some hot rhymes. I was really holding it down for the middle class kids who thought they were gully. Listened to way too many cocaine rap freestyles. And you can hear that in my lyrics. But I'll tweet something out.
Starting point is 00:53:30 If you follow me on Twitter, at Miles of Grey, I'll tweet you to my track with Shia, a.k.a. Rap Eye. Rap Eye. So yeah, he's been about the hip hop thing for a minute. So I can't say that. So that's Rap Eye, but... But rap. Oh, see, yeah, you figured it out. Yeah, I figured it out when you told me earlier.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Well, did you have a rap name? No, I just, at the time, I was just fucking Miles, really. Miles. I wasn't really... You were on that Kendrick Lamar tip. Not really. I think I just felt like it wasn't... I didn't have, like, a cool name to come up with, and I was like, you know, I'm good with
Starting point is 00:54:00 Miles for now. Like, this is just some hobby shit. Well, check that out, guys. Yeah. Ify, where can our listeners find you? You can find me at at IfyWadiway on Twitter and Instagram, and Ify's on Twitch if that's your thing.
Starting point is 00:54:15 How are you spelling that? My name are Ify's. Probably both. I-F-Y-N-W-A-D-I-W-E. And on Twitch, I-F-D-N-W-A-D-I-W-E. And on Twitch, I-F-D-E-E-Z-F-E. Thank you so much for coming by. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me just, you know, working out in the gym right now.
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