The Daily Zeitgeist - Government Says F*** It Mask Off, King Cobra COVID? 4.20.22

Episode Date: April 20, 2022

In episode 1230, Jack and Miles are joined by anti-racism educator/activist, writer and host of White Homework and Go Home Bible You're Drunk, Tori Williams Douglass to discuss… The mask mandate getting axed feels like the right level of American cruelty, “Snake Venom in the Water Supply” is the Dumbest Covid Conspiracy Theory Yet and more! The mask mandate getting axed feels like the right level of American cruelty “Snake Venom in the Water Supply” is the Dumbest Covid Conspiracy Theory Yet COVID Conspiracy Theorists Are at War Over ‘Snake Venom’ COVID-19 is Caused by a Virus, Not Snake Venom LISTEN: Just What I Am by Kid CudiSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is, of course, Wednesday, April 20th, 2022, 420. That's the official. 420, man. Sorry if that's gross official 420 man sorry if that's grossing anyone out yeah choking back laugh can't laugh outwardly it has to be like all the way at the back of your throat

then it feels like you're high and you're trying to hide it in your laugh that's the whole point 420 yep cheddar fries day too I think you gotta respect alright so we Cheddar fries day, too. Yeah, you gotta respect. Alright, so we got cheddar fries day, which, very specific.

I can get behind, like, a cheese fries day, but I don't need you to tell me which kind of cheese needs to be on my fries. Like, poutine is great with a mozzarella. But, alright, cheddar fries day and lima bean respect day. Both days that, I don't know, are slipping in under the radar.

Are they trying to draft off of 420? They're like, well, what do people like on 420 when they're stoned better than... Cheddar Fries from Ireland? Lima Beans. Yeah, Cheddar. And Lima Beans. Love to pop some Lima Be beans when i'm stoned and also on the discord people are saying like let them know it's also national taco bell day but it i'm having trouble

confirming that i feel like spiritually 420 is that absolutely they're not taco bell day uh but i don't know i feel like the one time i could see taco bell celebrating anything it was taco day on october 4th but whatever it's National Taco Bell Day it's National Swisher Sweets, National Backwoods Optimals, Garcia Vega however you get down exactly my name's Jack O'Brien

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Dilly dilly, am I right? Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray i'm smoking spliffs tonight i'm smoking spliffs tonight i'm smoking spliffs tonight i'm smoking spliffs tonight i i i i be on it all night man i be in the 818 straight up pimp if you want me you can call me miles gray i'm on it i'm on it time and time again i gotta turn back around and tell these bros i don't fuck with nfts and i won't buy that dumb crypto okay shout out to me just coming up with you know i'm on that kryptonite but somehow made it about 420 and crypto because it's on that kryptonite anyway that. Man, I got the 818 in there. Shout out.

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It's Tori Williams-Douglas! Tori! Hi! Oh, my God. I'm so happy to be back. It feels like I haven't seen y'all in so long. I know. It's been a minute.

Yeah. Too long. How long has it been? I haven't seen y'all in so long i know it's been a minute yeah too long how long has it been i don't know i don't even i don't it's even yeah it's everything like you're saying it is time is a flat circle everything is just a venn diagram that's a circle i can google it i can find out no i mean that's probably gonna be more disorienting i'm not going to but i could. Oh, no. What's good? What have you been up to? Oh, man.

What have I been up to? I mean, mostly just like reading a lot of American history and recording stuff about U.S. history and like neuroscience and racism for for white homework that's that's really been it I am going to try to write a book though I have like oh dope one thing left to send to an editor so like send vibes yeah white homework book yeah I mean that's a that's a bestseller I'm calling it right now right I'm like this is good shit you guys great show great title great yeah great author let's get it done wait so are you in the process are you saying like okay the pieces are coming together i think it's time or you're you're in the lab right now making a book um so basically um getting stuff together for a publishing company yeah so i've been talking to them for a little bit and I'm super excited.

Okay. We'll consider the vibes sent. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. And you're up in Portland. I am. It is pouring down rain and gray.

What? I know. It's lovely. Everything is blooming though. Like this is the best. Everything is pink right now because all the trees have pink flowers for a week or two.

It's beautiful. Isn't Portland called Rose City or something? Yeah. City of Roses. Yep. City of Roses. There we go. We like our flowers here. Okay. And weed. And mushrooms. Because those are legal now here too. Mushrooms are legal now here too. So mushrooms are legal.

Yeah. Wow. I know. I feel like if you had told like 20 year old me that mushrooms would be legal, like in many cities in the United States, like that was, that was a time when I like heard tell of Amsterdam,

like it was some like time portal that you could walk through like christiania and now it's like yeah or you could just like go take a take a day trip up there up to portland that's that's very cool good good for portland good for the people of portland the i. I was just thinking the only reason I knew that it was the Rose City was because Rasheed Wallace had Air Force Ones that had a rose on the heel. And that was his signature shoe. And like

as a kid, I was like, why does he have a rose on his shoe? And then I'm like, oh, Rose. This all makes sense. Oh my god. I'm 17 and I don't know anything. Have you seen Pig pig by the way this is probably the most annoying conversation or like question that people from portland get constantly wait what what what are you talking about pig the nicholas cage movie no i haven't oh dear now i'm

gonna have to watch something this afternoon wait what wait why is that annoying for port people from portland i don't know i think it's set in Portland, isn't it? Oh, is it? Yeah, it's filmed and set in Portland. It's like a very Portland-y film. And it's about cuisine and foodies in Portland. Oh, God. Set with a vengeance backdrop.

And a Nicholas Cage. And a wildly unbathed Nicholas Cage. The most unbathed an actor has ever been in a leading role. Jack, when did this come out? Came out last year. It's very good. I highly recommend it. I'm absolutely going to watch it.

I really enjoyed it. Yeah. I definitely recommend it. And it's being sort of critical of haute cuisine, basically. Yeah, a little bit like he's like describing it out loud it sounds a little silly but he's like a uh he was like a great chef left the world of haute cuisine and then like comes back to set motherfuckers straight like both like with regards to like what they're what they're cooking in addition to like he's he's looking for his pig somebody somebody took his pig oh wow is it violence uh it's not as violent

as like i thought it was going to be heading in you were hoping for you hear that it's like a vengeance like he's right he he i just want my pig right and then it's it's he doesn't use like there is a violent scene but it's not it's never like him going on kill bill okay type shit because the way you described it it sounded like a uva bowl film where yeah it's like it's always like rampage on wall street i thought it was like the parallel thing of like fucking cuisine showdown oh god oh my god okay yeah it's cool though and there's some good performances in there not the least of which the pig but also nicholas cage uh all right tory we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're

talking about we're gonna of course talk about the big news, the Biden administration choosing once again to really, really pick their battles. They pick the fuck out of their battles. In this case, they're just like, I don't know. That's what the judge said. So no, no mask mandate anymore on airplanes. And we don't get blamed for it because the judge did it. on airplanes and we don't get blamed for it because this judge did it and people were pulling off their masks and throwing them in the air on the airplane because they ended it like mid-flight some flights and people were pulling off their mask and throwing in the air like they were

graduation hats like right yeah like the covid we graduated from COVID. It's over. Guys, altruism, no more. Don't worry about it. Don't sacrifice shit ever. The terrible experiment is over, according to that judge. Yeah. We're going to talk about a new level. Like we, it just keeps happening. We keep reaching new levels of dipshittery when it comes to the COVID conspiracy theories.

So we got a new one. We're going to talk about that. All of that, plenty more. Before we get to any of it, we do like to ask our guest, Tori, what is something from your search history? Well, because I'm kind of esoteric as fuck and always studying random things

that were excluded from American history. This last week, I have been researching the racist history of homeschooling in america very weird but there are no like so in the u.s you in most states you are not legally obligated to educate your child like at all on paper you might be but nobody enforces it and oh right oh like someone wouldn't come by like a farm and be like, why aren't these kids in school? No, no, no. So I've just, yeah, I've been enjoying a little bit of that Journal of Black Studies.

Because again, I am a nerd. Has several articles on like anti-blackness and homeschooling. and homeschooling. And like, it's just, you know, it's, it's, it's conservative evangelicals who are mad about desegregation and prayer

being taken out of schools, which I guess is some huge affront still. Yeah. So they were really like the people that, that drove that. And the folks who like essentially couldn't afford these like Christian segregation academies, like a lot of them ended up homeschooling.

Right. So. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that process is always taking place, which is like, well, if progress is there, we're taking our kids over here. Truly. And it never ends.

Like whether it's that or now, like charter schools or even now with people even now trying to push again for homeschooling, you know, because I feel like now it's like or now like charter schools or even now with people even now trying to push again for homeschooling, you know, because I feel like now it's like, well, look what they're learning in school now, whether it's you, you can,

you should accept yourself as the human being that you were born as or fucked up topics like slavery is an affront to like any moral human being. Like, and so we'll teach them our own thing at home yeah there's always this fucking there's always an escape hatch for ignorance always always yeah and so i was just very you know even even there's a couple of fairly strict states in terms of homeschooling where like the state will actually come and check on you but like in 40 states they might right and so you know a lot of kids don't receive an actual education and so they're like creating their own transcripts by googling stuff and like using an excel

spreadsheet because you know if your parents said you graduated then you graduated in my heart honey i strongly believe number one in my class didn't do any studies but yeah you are the default valedictorian babe i know it's great winning yeah and this feels like something that's about to explode even more like david mammett who i i hadn't associated with like straight like right wing like q anon shit but like he went on a fox news show and claimed that like 70 of teachers in the u.s are pedophiles so like i feel like there is a mainstreaming of like that thanks to you know the fact that there's a concerted effort to be like okay this is the new battleground is the pta from like steve bannon and folks like that yeah yeah i i feel like homeschooling is is a growth industry so yeah you know it's where you should have your

money yeah it's where you should have your money. pro-segregation rhetoric right right right and so i'm like you know if you're if you are going to be a person who does that okay but like don't use the arguments that people are using to like marry their daughters off at 15 that's gross come on like get it together yeah oh man i wonder how zosia mammoth is doing you know i guess now that she got her she got her little she got her little career in real quick on girls and mad men now her dad can't like fuck that up for her dad don't say like q and stuff on fucks we're not gonna get on the show yeah i mean i'm gonna i i feel like this is his baby boomer winning out over like being a educated person side of things like right i'm not gonna blame his kids necessarily but yeah that's no i'm just saying it's just always funny to just see like because that is the kind of thing when

you see like you know how nepotism works in hollywood at times like the kids can get burned sometimes even if they have nothing to do with it because the parent kind of said some wild shit right yeah that's just me looking out for the poor kids who have you know they've struggled so hard being born randomly what is something you think is overrated um i mean right now like just the entire west as a construct i'm like you guys you're you're it's everybody's like oh my god like i can't believe that this russia thing is happening because like we're all we're all aspiring capitalists we all have billionaires like what's the problem right this is i don't i just i don't i don't understand it's like we're there there's this thing of like we're all on the same team like how could they and like pearl

clutching and i'm like have you again have you ever have you ever read a book man like figure it out i was homeschooled yeah oh god we a lot of us who were homeschooled do read kind of voraciously so right that is a thing my siblings and i are all constantly reading history and like listening to history podcasts, which is probably why I'm like, I don't know. They're just, there's nothing like there's nothing we can do. We're just at this like kind of point where it's like, yeah, we said we were kind of all going to like just go our own separate ways and like let people do what they want to do kind of like following world war ii and like all this all this stuff that they put together and all these treaties and it's just like oh yeah that only applies to again only applies to darker folks right the rule of law uh law and order it's like there's i mean like i feel like constantly like as an american you look at the coverage of like how people are talking and you're like i feel like constantly like as an american you look at the

coverage of like how people are talking and you're like you're like y'all talking war crimes okay right yeah oh god you have you have you don't have a leg to stand on like we don't we don't get to accuse people of war crimes have you seen us they're like we'll invade the fucking Hague if you try some shit. You know what I mean? Literally, that's the policy, right? That was the policy. And we're over. That's why, like, watching the news is really surreal. Because, like, I can't believe what's going on. Like, what, these atrocities?

And you're like, fuck, man. If we could only report on our own shit with the supposed clarity that the journalists are with this conflict. Like, whether it was even early on with like well look at the people dying in this war oh my god and like no one realizing yeah no one realized how they sound and you're like oh this is why everything's so fucked up and then like you have our own country being like this is an atrocity my god look at them just look at them i mean guys these are people who look like They could be your neighbor

They could be your cousin That's why I stand in solidarity With the occupied Ukrainians Palestine I don't know what that is I don't know what that is Okay I'm sorry I'm sorry

I totally tweeted that though I was like if you're standing with ukraine but not like palestine or yemen go fuck yourself like you actually don't know anything yeah like you don't you don't just you don't you don't get an opinion in terms of no and i get it too like yeah you can as an individual i think that's why a lot of people were saying like i can't believe't believe these people are just like bringing up America's war atrocities to cover up things. Like, sure, there are some people who were just doing what about isms to kind of deflect. But I think some people who are truly disturbed by the lack of like consistent care, empathy that goes out from American people. care, empathy that goes out from American people. That's what's really frustrating because we're always seeing like this cordoned off sec, like sort of compartmentalized empathy and not thinking like that's the problem is you can look at a Brown kid who's dead on the ground and feel

nothing, but you see this white child, you know, dead on the ground. And now it really is an issue and really trying to really, you know, take the time ground. And now it really is an issue and really trying to really, you know, take the time to confront why you don't feel one thing when you look at one thing and you feel something else looking at the other. That's, I think, what is really the most disheartening part of like observing the coverage and like the discourse from, you know, many American people about what's happening. Yeah. i think there's also something where they can like convince themselves that well it's complicated you know we've i've read like all these new york times articles with all these facts and like the only thing that's complicated is you might say some shit that someone you really care about wholeheartedly disagrees with and you

may have to not talk to that person anymore because you actually have a you're trying to apply a consistent definition of what a human being is you know what i mean um what is something you think is underrated toward you know i'm i'm gonna go with non-monogamy go on like i'm i'm a fan what do you want me to say you guys um no but like i was having a conversation with a friend earlier today and yeah we're kind of talking about this like scarcity mindset that we're all given because you know capitalism and we apply that to our relationships and i was talking about kind of like working through my own shit and you know like abandonment issues or if you have like any kind of trauma it's like you have to i'm in therapy right now you guys don't judge me and i judge you in the way that i'm saying oh look you look at oh look who's getting their shit together i know i just stopped

and i was trying to get my therapist to be like yo can i keep going and she's like you i mean if you just want to talk about i mean like the last two sessions you just told me what's happening on tv and i was like i know but i like checking in she's like you let's develop some life skills where you seem to be able to so yeah no shade in fact congratulations so yeah sorry you're saying um but yeah like working like the thing that i've kind of been working through, I guess, like, mentally lately or whatever, cognitively and just like my own, my own issues is like seeing like, oh, like, your partners, partners are like on your team. Right? If you're doing this right, it's like you're all it's collaboration, not competition.

That was kind of what occurred to me the other day. And that like made me really happy it's like i'm i'm i'm into this this is like this is something that you know wasn't raised with at all like the only non-monogamy that i grew up with was like random rapey dudes in the bible so um yeah like kind of learning this like mutual respect. And it really does in a lot of ways sort of force you to grow as a person. Right. I like it.

I'd imagine. Yeah. All right. Like, so how like the boundaries have to be like really in place, right? Like right up front with everybody involved. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Because it's like there's still consent. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Cause it's like, there's still consent, right? Right. And it's like, it's still, if you're at, if you're in a partnership of any kind, like you're not making unilateral decisions about things and you know, there are, there are always issues that you're going to have to kind of like work through i mean one of my friends was talking to me about the difference between jealousy and envy a couple weeks ago and i was like this is actually i've never thought about it this way because can i tell you can i tell you something really embarrassing this is a really embarrassing story about me and non-monogamy so i am like you know've never, I've never really cared.

Like the, like the sex piece is like never really bothered. I'm just like, okay, cool. Like go have fun. Do your thing. Like, I don't know. As long as you're being safe. Right. Right.

Go at it. However, my partner went hiking with someone and didn't tell me. It wasn't like a, it wasn't somebody romantically involved at all. And I was like just like oh my god i feel so like taken advantage of not really i was like being dramatic but i was like i really like hiking like why did you do this without me that was kind of my i was like i don't like sex whatever like hiking like yeah you need to tell me what's up they're like they're like which were you wearing boots or just like sort of like all-terrain shoes like how serious i want to know everything you brought a camel back

oh my uh-huh i thought i knew you yeah i thought i knew you yeah it's interesting the that sort of contextual shift you're talking about right of like not seeing it when you're in a like a relationship and there's multiple partners of not seeing people's competition and collaborators and it's it's you know it's funny how there's so many things that we just kind of flip a switch or just we need a different context to look at something through and then suddenly like that's what i yeah that makes more sense because i know i was fucking with it but i didn't quite know how to make sense of it because i've always looked you know at relationships through this very specific lens yeah i feel it's like the same thing even in you know if you're in a monogamous relationship of

like when you hear criticism from a partner not taking that as like this is my enemy and i am now doing battle with them in the existential debate arena when which i will fuck them up watch this versus this is a person that cares we're on the same team and the things they're saying are just merely observations and i'm just trying to hear them not necessarily hearing it as you're bad which i think we most people take criticism as so those little shifts yeah absolutely it's like viewing viewing your relationships is like building something together and you know yeah like being on it's like we're on the same team we're working through this

together and you know that it does require a lot of monogamous or non-monogamous it does require a lot of like mutual respect which i think is something we frequently are not taught and then you know wind up in therapy to learn so and yeah and security within yourself more than anything yeah because if you don't have that everything will look like an existential threat truly fight to you or the you know the scarcity mentality only increases because you're not fucking with yourself enough to be like, yo, I can get love. I can go out there. I can get love.

That's not a problem. But if so many of us think in this way of like, well, I had love and then I lost it that one time. And then that was like a rough couple of years. And I don't want to repeat that. Bills, baby. Yeah. Yeah. Just back yourself, y'all.

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struck down the CDC mask mandate for travel. And they were just like, all right, let it rock. No more masks on planes. And yeah, are people writing about how the Biden, like this feels like the sort of thing that another administration might've been like, fuck that, I'm like, this is still the executive branch thing that another administration might have been like, fuck that.

I'm like, this is still the executive branch and we're going to keep it in place or like fight this. Everything I see from mainstream news is like, here's the lady that fucked it all up. Or these are the airports that are doing it or not doing it or airlines. that are doing it or not doing it or airlines there there aren't many where like i'm seeing you know precisely like the coverage being squarely on like what the administration is doing as a result of that i mean obviously like they're saying things like well we were gonna like you know we were hoping till may kind of thing because the white house was even on board with like early may and we were still like what the fuck is that gonna do so yeah it yeah it seems like there isn't much friction between the federal and judiciary like as you know as

the reporting is right now and i can for the reasons you were saying up top it's kind of convenient for the administration right right so just in terms of her uh the judge's beliefs around masks and covid it's not clear that she is full scamdemic but she seems pretty skeptical about you know anything that hasn't been fact-checked by random people on facebook 100 she follows she's i mean she's been she was labeled as like a right-wing extremist judge when she was you know on her way to getting confirmed way back when in 20 at the end of 2020 this is somebody who for some reason the when the american bar association was like she doesn't even have the minimum level of like years practicing as a lawyer to even be considered for like a district court like this doesn't even make sense

like this person doesn't even tick the boxes for the bare minimum they're not fit uh yet all the republicans are like yes this person is better than katanji uh brown jackson so uh that's let's just keep it like that so but this the way she wrote in her decision is she like was talking about social distancing and things like that as like an experiment she's like a like a very extreme experimentation with like these distancing. So you're like, okay, those are experiments. Those aren't risk mitigating policies put in place to try and prevent us from having a million deaths, even though we're well on our way there. trying to say that this looked more like a thing where the cdc wasn't so much interested in like what was going to be safe but that they were trying to exercise their power to like prevent people from traveling and to detain and quarantine them if they didn't abide by wearing a mask that was like the thrust of being like oh wow wow match made in maga how would how how would the cdc care about people flying when they clearly don't give a fuck about a pandemic killing

people they're just like let's go with what do people want to do this week masks no masks school no school just like follow your heart and you'll be fine like I don't understand why they even exist at this point exactly that's where we're at now where we're like i thought you're i well i think because everything they were the whole everything was just basically like i don't know the cdc's fucking everything up right that it became like an untenable position for them over there to be like i mean like everything we say is fucked up and now the only people that they're listening to are the ones who are like it's not that bad right so you know it's at that point yeah and again it's only i think diminished the trust people have and again

only adds to the fucking confusion that is happening around this because as we as it stands right we're we have just looking like none of the major airlines are like yeah fuck it we're fine tsa is like we don't give a shit man we're not enforcing shit anymore like it's all good but we're still very much dealing with this pandemic and the like the administration was just still being like hey it may be great if congress could like you know fund the fucking pandemic response so states are on their own we don't have like a robust federal response anymore we don't have fucking any more unemployment insurance and we're we've truly stepped into this shit where it's like yeah man do you uh because this is america and help is not on the way ever yeah and it feels like the right is winning the right you know the

the right has made it so that like rather than rather than the CDC being strengthened by, you know, leadership during the pandemic, it's become completely ineffectual. And now the people who just don't want COVID to be a thing, like, are, they're dictating policy. Yeah. That's the direction that we've gone. It just seems like a very dangerous precedent but i mean i guess you can't win right like where we if you if you help people then you're so then you're doing socialism right which would have probably made people feel less tense about i'm not working or my fucking this got like my financial situation is completely

upended by the pandemic. If we were meaningfully able to help people, that would have diminished a few things to at least help people feel like, okay, well, fuck there's a pandemic, but at least like, I'm not feeling the crunch of like my bills piling up because I'm not working. So you can't win by helping people. You can't win by trying to say, well, then fuck it. If we can't help people, then like go to fucking work, but wear these masks or maybe get a vaccine. And they're like, I don't fucking wanna. And they're like, fuck, we can't even win there. So it truly is like this thing, like the experience of like leading America is like, you're this like burnt out parent driving a van full of kids that are

like whining and you just constantly capitulate to them, even though they're like, drive off the road, dad, drive off the road dad drive off the road we hate ourselves yeah you're like no i want us to live it's like but i don't want to live dad you're like fuck fine i want to live if we can't be there right now yeah it's like it's like uh we the the u.s government is the parent that was like you know mind fucked into being like you want to drive and the kid's like yes and they're like okay and now the now they're the parent in the back seat of the car as the five-year-old is driving them oh my god no the 12-year-old pulled a gun out from underneath

the driver's seat and he's like bitches you stay back there i'm in charge now and yeah it's like okay we're yeah we're screwed cool yeah this is. You look at like, you know, a lot of the reporting when the, you know, when this all went down on Monday, so many, like a lot of the headlines talked about, like had words like sparking confusion or like confused passengers respond or whatever. I just want to, I'll play some clips because people on Twitter were taking video, like when they were on their flights mid fucking air. And basically you had the captain be like, oh, yeah, this is your this is your captain future Hendrick speaking. I'm off that Molly and Percocet. Just want to let you know it's time for the masks to come off. OK, thank you. That was the fucking vibe on these flights. But let's just hear from people who are actually on a fucking airplane. I don't know, man. Take your fucking masks off.

Immediately. Congratulations. He said congratulations. Yeah. Masks straight up. People started taking their masks off. Like right then. It was.

So, you know, they only caught the tail end. It would have been weird if somebody was just taking a video the entire flight. But the guy goes, effective immediately. Congratulations, the captain. Who knows where he's at on the scandemic scale. And then people just clap and take off their masks. Yeah. The guy said, the pilot apparently said, this is your pilot speaking,

this is the most important announcement I've ever made. Okay. Wow. Fuck out of here. The federal mask mandate is over. Were you flying during 9-11? Because I feel like you may have given an address if you were flying during 9-11. That may have been more important.

Anyway, federal mask mandate is over. Take off your mask if you choose. Woo! Then there's another one. This one was on an Allegiant air flight. And the vibe of this flight attendant was like she's reading off her phone and it's kind of like i don't know like do whatever you want airplane but they are encouraged to continue to do so as a precaution i just wanted

to read that to you guys so if you would like to take them off you can you want to keep them on you can okay okay but what about the pandemic can is that still real? Is this thing long COVID, a potential ailment that could alter my life in a negative way? I'm like, okay, where do y'all keep the parachutes? Because I'm out. Like, this is some bullshit. Did not sign up for any of this.

I'm just curious about the, like, flight attendant fucking unions. Like, this is very bad for their health. This adds a huge hazard to their workplace and nobody nobody gives a shit captain's like finally it's wild though i'm good up here last couple times i've flown this year you can tell there's even like there are some you see some flight attendants loose with the mask too or they're like i don't really give a fuck i think in their mind they're, I've been on this plane so goddamn long. And that's fine.

I got COVID once. But you can even tell that they're, you know, I think people live in different realities based on like the threat vectors that they face. Right. And I think for one, that gives a lot of anecdotal evidence for one person to feel comfortable, you know, because I mean, those those flight attendants are vaccinated. So it's not like they're unvaccinated and have no masks. But every person has a different way of looking at what's happening. And this again, this adds to the confusion when you just hear if the if the leaders of the country saying you don't need the thing that we're saying was keeping you safe, then you'd have the logical next conclusion you'd say is, oh, so then we're safe, right? That's why we're not wearing them. But the fact is, we're not.

We don't have money for a response. We're looking at a more transmissible version of the coronavirus, but reporting's low because the symptoms are milder and most people self-test, which doesn't get reported. So there's a lot adding to like the perception that it's all good. Right. But yeah, again, it seems like right now the government is saying, hey, man, just figure your own shit out, you know, because we're off this. We're not going to help you, but help yourself if you want. Yeah. We graduated from COVID. It's over.

Congratulations, everyone. Yeah, the numbers are still not even as low as they were in June of last year. We'll see. Hopefully, they have the ability to be like, all right, so that was an interesting experiment. Cases are going back up. Let's pull those bad boys back on without people freaking out. But I just, I get the feeling that's not the world we live in anymore. No.

And I don't, yeah, again, you're just, it's, how are people supposed to make really good decisions about what, you know, how they're supposed to go out in the world if, can't even like there's not one consistent source of information aside from maybe like some scientist is pulling his fucking you know pulling their hair out being like fuck the fuck this you y'all are acting like we have therapeutics that we can fucking hand you the second you get off of planes that would prevent you from getting like a terrible case of covid or if you have it, you could take it in your, you know, you're good and fucking a couple of days. We're not there yet.

That's like the version where I think in my mind, that's what safety looks like, which is even if I get COVID, there's, there are medications or there are interventions in place that are accessible to everybody that make it. So you don't have a terrible case of COVID. You don't get long covid

that feels like you know then then we are dealing with something like the flu or the cold when you're like yeah you got it just go to go go to go to cbs get your shit but we're not there and so until that's met i'm continuing to believe that you know the pandemic rages on because it's as it does everywhere else in the world yeah all right let's take a quick break and then we're gonna come back and find out what's really going on with this covid shit snake venom in the water supply people i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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it's interesting because because like pee drinking was at least a little bit opaque not just the pee but like the we we didn't really know like we had a sense of like who's sending it out there but like the this one is like the person who put it out there claims they got the idea from an episode of blacklist on cbs i think or mbc whatever that drama is james spader so let's just let's just run through it but yeah i think we do have a new yeah a new king in the in the world of stupid conspiracy theories. So there's a new short documentary circulating on right-wing social media platforms that's basically just an interview with one guy about the nature of the COVID-19 virus.

This is, of course, Brian Artist, a world-renowned, widely respected virologist. Oh, I'm sorry. Actually, a retired chiropractor who is also a far right podcaster. Oh, well, retired. We all know the math, Jack. Retired chiropractor plus far right podcaster equals virologist. That's how you get that degree. So Artis alleges that the COVID virus was created by King king cobra venom being pumped into the water supply and the government is keeping monoclonal antibodies from the public because they are really anti-venoms that could cure everybody wait so wait they are really anti-venoms. Zach, you're right.

Hold on. You got to even run that back for me. King Cobra, not the malt liquor, is being pumped into the waters. I'd sooner believe King Cobra the malt liquor was being pumped into the water supply. We're really getting all these Cobras. Yeah. That was the question that occurred to me as I was just reading through that. Like, I read through it earlier and I was like so astounded by the stupidity and the complexity of the bad sourcing that was happening here that I didn't even stop to think like that. Where are the cobras coming from? It's a bunch of FEMA camps in the Mojave Desert and they're just full of snakes that are being raised.

They're just milking cobras. Milking cobras. Hey, get those little fangs out for me. They do have the hollow fangs, as we've talked about. And in my mind, those are udders, and they're real people doing labor. They're pulling up their venom stool

and their venom bucket right under a king cobra, and they're getting to work milking those fangs. We're not even close to being through here. So this scheme is being perpetuated by Fauci, of course. Also, the Pope, baby. Duh. The Pope. So let's figure out how somebody was like, okay, sir, obviously this sounds true it has the smack of

reality but how did you show your worth friend so he explained part of his thinking was basically corona equals crown and king equals king cobra oh math fuck yeah okay yes so corona equals so corona equals crown now that is true because the like that it's named for the shape of the molecule or whatever the fuck the little tiny coronavirus baby but he took that he was like see that's where they want you to stop but the crown equals king and the king equals king cobra. How is the Pope connected? Well, he made that by just typing random words into Google image search. No.

Yeah. Are there photos of the Pope with like a snake? That'd be fun. That would be dope. Oh, right. Like him freak dancing with a snake. Or just, yeah, just with a snake. That'd be fun. That would be dope. Oh right. Like him. Freak dancing with a snake. Or just. Yeah.

Just with a snake around his neck. Uh huh. Britney Spears style. Oh yeah. So this is part of a satanic plot. Oh my god. Being hatched by the Catholic church. To turn everyone into a hybrid of Satan.

So I like that. What are we in the 18 fucking 90s. With this like anti-Italian. Anti-Catholic conspiracy shit? We're like, it's the Italians and Catholics with Fauci teaming up with the fucking Pope. Like, wow. He has, like all good scammers, come out like at the first time that people were like, hey, none of this is true. Obviously, right.

You're crazy. Well, you're a groomer he was like no so the documentary actually misrepresented me a little bit um i never intended to create fear panic and anxiety about water and then he still promoted the movie on his website along with a line of anti-v pills anti oh nice nice and Nice. And yeah, he's, you know, in addition to Google image search and free association word games, the other sources that this theory are based on are, first of all, the titles derived from a QAnon post, Watch the Water was the title of the QAnon post that has been used as evidence for Q predicting secret ballot watermarks and the Suez Canal backup.

But basically, people are just like using numerology level, like textual literary analysis of like some shit that a scammer, a 20 something scammer posted like years ago to come out with these theories. But my favorite piece of evidence that this theory is based on is a 2017 episode of the NBC series The Blacklist. Saw an episode of the show on Netflix in which a character is poisoned by snake venom in a beverage and concluded that this must be what caused COVID. So the guy who made the documentary says in the documentary so I was watching the black

list. I saw this guy get poisoned by snake venom in his cup and I believe that now that is how we got COVID. Yeah. That's... What are people supposed to drink now? Like, they're just supposed to drink the regular water but with

his like little branded anti-venom virginity yeah yeah okay that's it's pretty clear tori i don't know if you heard anything i know i'm having a hard time keeping up here i'm sorry could you just also within the logic of the blacklist i'm sure you guys have seen that episode at least a couple times like i have so the theory doesn't make any sense because the character thinks he was poisoned with snake venom and wine but later finds out it was actually in his scotch because it would have had to have been administered in something with a higher alcohol content. Water has a really... No, I guess not. Pretty low compared to wine and scotch. Water's alcohol content is actually, I think, lower. Whoa, hold on.

Hold on. What you guys aren't thinking is the actual alcohol potential of water. Now, Jesus Christ himself revealed that when he multiplied the loaves of fishes and was actually able to convert... And who wants to cover that up more than the pope thank you okay and for good measure george soros okay you know what i'm you know what i'm getting at there fella but that that really is i mean god even with my forced knowledge of christianity from schooling i'm like well i could i could see that jumped up i would i would i might hit him up i'll say you you're talking about the alcoholic potential of water vis-a-vis christ mention that but yeah okay so this theory is not

just like something that our writer jam like spent the afternoon digging around to find the dumbest one it is actually very popular it was picked up by a multitude of right-wing conspiracy theorists and influencers artists episode or like or this idea this idea and him like his theory was pulled invited for a 40-minute interview on info wars in which he represents or misrepresented himself apparently do you believe that i mean up to this point like a straight shooter. Right. Is he saying that Alex Jones edited the things that he said manipulatively to make him look bad? Or what is even the argument there? He was talking about the original documentary that was basically made by him.

Right. But this producer came in and started twisting my world words around so you can't like doesn't he know like how dog whistles work like if you're trying to have that plausible deniability you can't go full-blown king cobra in the water there's no there's no way you can be like you know watch some tucker carlson be like is it wrong to just ask what the content of king cobra venom is in the water and play that game but when you're out here full-throated being like no this is what's going on it's hard to then be like yeah well the producer i work with on the documentary that i'm in misrepresented what

i said because i'm actually a really serious person. Yeah, I'm a former chiropractor, motherfuckers. And far right wing podcaster. Oh, right this way, Dr. O'Brien. Oh, you didn't say you're a doctor. So yeah,

we'll see where this is headed but snake venom in the water just be keep an eye peeled for people talking about that suggesting that might be happening we'll probably see like water filtering technology like start being advertised more and more on fox news somebody will get rich not not the least of which is anti-v mr anti-v himself yeah maybe you should be looking out for other shit in your water to be honest if you really get fucked that much you'd be surprised check your local water report yeah i'm like if there was less lead in your water buddy maybe you uh would have figured this out a little sooner

could have cracked the case wouldn't have required an episode of the blacklist sometimes that's where sometimes it's just right there in front of you you know what now i want to watch the blacklist and just come up with my own conspiracy theories based off blacklist episodes yeah yeah where did kovid come from good improv exercise is that the one where somebody like wakes up in a suitcase or something they're they're like in a suit. They climb out of a suitcase and they're naked in like Central Park or Times Square. Am I confusing that with something else? I haven't seen one fucking episode of The Blacklist, so I could not tell you. I think I just am remembering this from like the premiere episode where they were like,

get ready to have your fucking mind turned inside out. This fucker's naked in Central Park. A thing that has never happened before. Yeah. Oh my God. This person's disoriented in Central Park. So I was watching the naked cowboy and I was like,

what if it was criminal conspiracy? I took a bunch of snake venom and then just went to Central Park. Exactly. Just to see what happens. I really am like... By the way, listeners i sorry i'm i was wrong about that i'm sure i'm wrong about that i think i'm confusing like one nbc like

light prestige drama with another but uh okay sorry tori go ahead oh no i was just like i'm super i'm super excited about how like the snake venom is ostensibly creating these reptilian human hybrids because if you think about that potentially they would be able to procreate with lizard people. So now you've got Queen Elizabeth involved. Right. Along with the Pope and Dr. Fauci. Obama. And Jay-Z and Beyonce.

Yes. I always forget that they're in there. Man. Because you're slipping. Because you've got your eye on this racism stuff. And you've got your head in the books. There's too much lead in my water. You can Google that. because you're slipping because you got your eye on this racism stuff and you got your head in the water you can google that you're talking about these reptilian hybrids that are fucking our

celebrities right i mean yeah i mean that should be cool i would be stoked as a scientist i'm like yo man there's actually some half lizard people we should check them out they might you know that they might be a solution to our water usage because reptiles famously don't need that much water. They're all going to start far right wing podcasts. Welcome to reptile talk. Meanwhile, another

fun feature of your water, if you take a shower and don't towel off, you are impervious to medical x-rays because of the lead content. Heavy metals? It's like, yeah, do away with that heavy bib they give you at the dentist's office. Just tell them,

I shower and I don't towel off. We good. They're like, no, your skin looks very dry. Very clear. You just walked out of a shower and let that shit dry. I'm like, you've got some scales, bud. So maybe we're going to have to do more than this next right here.

Exactly. Scales. Thank you. So all these reptile people are just white people who don't moisturize after getting out of the shower and letting hard water dry on their bodies. They don't know any better. Not all white people.

Or are they mistaking ashiness for reptilian skin? Depending on how much snake venom you've got I think that it's on me again as a person of color to do the labor to prove I'm not a reptile because I'm a little ashy but you're also not white

I don't know are some of the lizard people not white yeah of course really Obama Are some of the lizard people not white? Yeah, of course. Really? Obama? Obama. Jay-Z.

Beyonce. Hillary Clinton? See, I didn't know that they got like... Hillary Clinton? Wait, why are y'all laughing? She's a lizard person. She said, are some of them not white? And you said Hillary Clinton. I thought you were making a joke about Bill Clinton.

The first black president. Unintentional. Yeah. You know, Sonny Rollins on sex. By the way, just while we're on the subject of snake fangs, shout out to all my other Dracula fang truthers out there who also believed that Dracula had hollow fangs through which he sucked the blood.

We're getting a lot of people who are like, yo, I had that same thought. Were they retractable fangs? Jack! Or did they stay in place? They stayed in place, I think. So the truth about Dracula is that Dracula used his extended fangs

to puncture the jugular vein and then he would just suck the blood in in through his mouth like one would a you know juicy piece of fruit however i had always pictured it as for whatever reason him having hollow fangs like a snake but that worked in reverse where you just stick his fangs in and then the blood would go like right up his fangs like a snake but that worked in reverse where you just stick his fangs in and then the blood would go like right up his fangs and into his body yeah reverse suction okay i'm yeah no i'm this makes sense i like it and that way it's closer to like your brain if it's already in your bloodstream like as soon as it gets into your gums yeah no my thing is stupid i should make that clear my thing is stupid i'm

just i'm just it's not stupid i believe this too correct i know jack i know why i believe this now i've fucking drawn a direct line into just the media of the 90s that got me on this belief i think and it's the reese's peanut butter commercial from 1990 around Halloween where they say this is how Dracula eats a motherfucking Reese's peanut butter cup and if you remember this shit they cut back to a Reese's peanut butter cup no two fucking holes in it like he was just eating the fucking in my mind I'm like well he just got all the peanut butter out of that shit and I think that reinforced the idea too that the fangs are just straight up straws fang straws yeah like so by that logic does this not does this not resonate with you jack this

image no this does no this absolutely does you just blew my fucking mind you are the our greatest uh american researcher on this the holiest of days on this um like that that's amazing do we think that whoever directed that commercial believed what we believed that they had straw fangs or were they saying he did a little incision and then sucked the peanut butter? Right. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. I don't know.

But right this instant, I instant. Yeah, I'm changing my Twitter name to Straw Fangs. Straw Fangs. Old Straw Fangs. Nobody's going to know what the fuck I'm talking about. And it's going to be great. See, OK, this is. And remember, we were talking. Who is it? Was it Courtney Kosak who was on this week? And we're talking about and it's going to be great. See, okay. This is, and remember we were talking, who is it?

Was it Courtney Kosak who was on this week? And we're talking about Quora. You know Quora is popping off with this debate of people asking questions. Being like, what is it? Do they suck the blood from the teeth like straws? Or are they just piercing for a hole to suck from? And we can't even find a fucking, just believe in deeply in their hearts that this is something that like we've it's just a misunderstanding it's a misunderstanding we are

wrong like the original intention or at least the only thing that makes sense is that it was puncture wounds that they then suck the blood through but like this is clearly a widely held misconception i'm trying like that is we need to do a cultural history so zeitgang we need your help all right miles just found the earliest version of this that i reinforce this myth for me as well you also like solved it for me to the point that i remember that ad and remember having the sense memory of feeling the sugar, like shoot up my teeth. Like, no,

I like thought about that. I was like, yo, that would make your teeth so rotten and like fucked up. If you had just like the sugary peanut butter shooting up through your teeth, like brush, but I think, I don't think that's what gave me the idea though.

I think that reinforced it. Let me just say in this core questionora question, some person answered, right? It would seem the vampires would use the teeth as straws. In most vampire movies, particularly older ones, they bite the victim on the neck and hold for a moment before the body drops to the floor. There is no visible blood. The coroner is always puzzled to find two puncture wounds and a body drained of blood right that people's like oh they got no blood like that's one version too that you would see on immediate this this definitely resonates with me where like if it was more pg rated it wasn't a

bloody fucking mess it was two holes right and maybe this is a function of our our content rating system because they also said they go on to say i think there was a misunderstanding of how vampire bats feed on the part of the early authors and script writers this became the norm what was expected but only and they're saying i don't know who this person is but that's most like more like mosquitoes who feed from putting a straw in you and sucking the blood out like that most likely they tear a hole in you and they're like okay this water balloon just exploded let me lap it up so pete so in the vampire movies, they would put their teeth in, but like they wouldn't form a seal over the neck because that's what's important, right? If they put their teeth in, they can still suck through those two holes by putting a seal over the part of the neck and just draining it like straight up real fast. Although you're going to collapse

those arteries like a straw. You know. If you suck too hard. That's just my point. I don't know. Let us know. Anyways, yeah. I feel like this is I blame Hershey's. Yeah, Hershey's. Hershey's fucked up. That's why I was never good at science.

Because they're showing me these fucking scientific fallacies on television as if I'm purporting them as fact yeah um well tori such a pleasure having you as always where can people find you follow you all that good stuff yeah absolutely i am usually tweeting way too much at tori glass um You can find White Homework on Insta if that's somewhere that you hang out. It's just White Homework. Super simple. You can check out the White Homework podcast. I also have another podcast

called Go Home Bible, You're Drunk. So if you were raised Christian, you might enjoy that. And yeah, that's what I got for now. Thanks, guys. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? And yeah, that's what I got for now. Thanks, guys. Yeah, thank you. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying?

Am I like gassing myself up if I do something that I say? No. So by the time I found the latest, I don't know, Finance Bro tweet about like, hey, $100, dollars a year isn't actually that much money i'm and i'm like okay i know that this is a dead horse we've done this so many times but why are you always saying this to people who make like 10 25 an hour and not to people running mega corporations right right like that that instruction is only ever coming to like people who are barely getting by if a hundred thousand dollars isn't that much like i feel like that's how much amazon warehouse workers should be making it's not much

you told me that's low right that's low you like okay if you live in san francisco you can't even pay your bills with that so right right right anyway miles rookie people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying find me on twitter instagram at miles of gray if you want to talk basketball join jack and i on mad boosty is the official nba basketball podcast that we do and if you want look on why not on 420 come check out my other show 420 day fiance where it's all weed based reality trash trash talk. Okay. Let's see. Some tweets that I like. First one is from Katie Griefeld, who is like, I guess works for Bloomberg or something.

On April 13th, she tweeted, I love conferences. On April 17th, she quote tweeted that tweet and said, I have COVID. Also, this one from Ian Carmel He tweeted, just finished eating an apple And I came in and I asked if he ate it from the bottom And he said, like literal groceries

And I just appreciated that Even though he wasn't in on the bit about eating apples from the bottom And then Jason Sparks, at Sparks JLS tweeted We're still taking off our shoes because of one dude 21 years ago, but can't be bothered to wear masks after 1 million dead from a virus that's still killing over 500 a day. What a world. What a world. What a time to be alive.

Not for long. I feel like there's not for long. Not for long. Not for long. Well, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can also find me on Miles and Jack on Matt Boosty's NBA podcast that I co-host with Miles Gray. A tweet I've been enjoying from Jackie Shine at Deer Splenda tweeted, There are five seasons.

Reese's pumpkin season, Reese's Christmas tree season, Reese's heart season, Reese's egg season, and the long loneliness. And I identify. And also, just ties into what we were talking about. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes on our foot notes we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy oh i'm just i was thinking of an album that i was listening to like on 420 and like maybe eight years ago when I was working in radio or no nine years ago the Kid Cudi album Indie Cud came out and there's two there's two tracks

Asia Smoke Tool out on that one was Unfuck Wittable and the other is Just What I Am so we'll go out on this one Kid Cudi Just What I Am and picture uh the late 20s Miles uh shefin on a vape pen in the parking lot before he went into his job that he hated. Okay, so check that out. Yeah, happy 420, everyone. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more

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