The Daily Zeitgeist - Governor Matthew McConaughey? Squid Game Obsesh 10.4.21

Episode Date: October 4, 2021

In episode 1001, Jack and Miles are joined by host of Podcast But Outside Andrew Michaan to a COVID pill, Texans not really feelin Abbott? Alex Jones losing big in court, murders being up, someone pai...d over $90K for the performance rights to a famous jingle,  Squid Game-Mania is Taking Over the World and more!FOOTNOTES: Covid Pill Might Even Help Anti-Vaxxers Texans not really feelin Abbott? Speaking of Texas, Alex Jones LOST BIGLY in court Are Murders Up For Same Reason They Were Down Before - Life Saving Healthcare? Someone paid over $90K for the performance rights to a famous jingle Squid Game-Mania is Taking Over the World Juggaknots - Clear Blue Skies Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:01 wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen, okay? Or Lacey gets it. Do it. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the president of the United States.
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Starting point is 00:02:48 those of us who observe and also national vodka day uh what a combo what a venn diagram it's a party yeah october 4th is uh is a party my name is jack o'b, a.k.a. Podcast. Come home hungry. I know she left me pizza by the stairs. The toppings let me know she cares. Say it ain't so. There's tomato picking it off. Not in my home. That is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi Slane, because it is October, of course.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Very spooky. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Soaking time. Friends jump on the bed if we don't pump it's all right. Soaking time. Turn all of the lights off over every Mormon boy and girl. We need jumping friends to help us bone. We need jumping friends to help us bone.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Okay, shout out to Hank Scipio for that closing time. You heard the soaking anecdote and you turned it into gold. So thank you, Hank, on the Discord. Yeah, yeah. What a song. And ours was in reference to, mine was in reference to the fact that I don't like tomatoes on pizza. Much less exciting, Ben. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Soaking. The Mormon sex hack. Yeah, Mormon sex hack. The tomato thing or? Yeah, the tomato thing is a Mormon sex hack. Okay, just check it. Sounds awesome. Well, that voice you hear is joining us in our third seat.
Starting point is 00:04:43 He is a hilarious comedian, actor, writer, podcast host. He's one of the hosts of The Very Funny Show podcast. But outside, he was named 2015's number one comedian on the top 1,000 comedians list. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Andrew Michon. Thank you. Thank you for having me. and my song about me is happy for no i don't i did not know it was a musical uh podcast um so i don't have a song prepared but just know that um if i had one prepared it would have been awesome it's very
Starting point is 00:05:17 clear to everyone listening that you have a song in your heart yeah yes last time you were on you were like you said the same thing like i didn't know it was a song. I would have came with one. Wow. So, it's funny. Let us down the second go around. Wow. I should have known. Well, it's been a normal couple of years. Yeah. What's your problem, man? November 2019. What's going on, dude? Just pick up where you left off. Well, I haven't really been paying attention um so i don't know everything's been good for me cool cool yeah yeah um yeah no it's good to be back thank you for having me i'm gonna i'm gonna come clean here and let you know that i have forgotten that we met
Starting point is 00:05:55 forgot that you were on the show and then become a fan of yours through podcast but outside uh since then and uh without realizing that you had been on this show so that's perfect but podcast but outside is very very funny yeah before you came on he's like you know andrew i'm like well yeah that is very funny i was like father you need your medicine oh boy hey i honestly actually that makes your fan of my show like that makes it more pure you know yeah of course that was just a pure enjoyment outside of the fact that you and i are close friends yes exactly there it is great what's good with you man other than you're back from costa rica i'm doing well yeah costa rica last time you're on how was that trip man it was great you
Starting point is 00:06:44 know it was really nice. And honestly, looking back, I'm very glad that I did go in November of 2019 because I try to go out of the country once a year. And it was a really great trip. And then if I had known that I wouldn't be able to leave the country for a long time after that, it was perfect timing to be able to go. Great country. Highly recommend it. Easy place to travel. And everyone's very nice.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Very beautiful. Love to see it. And I'm actually going to leave the country again for the first time since then in November. So no timing there. Where are you going? I'm going to Iceland, actually, which I've never been to. Whoa. Dope. What's the weather like at that time of year? I think it's kind of cold year round. the vibe is apparently it's just always cold but that
Starting point is 00:07:25 is definitely when winter is in the swing of it's like in the full swing of winter so there might be a little more snow but i think it's just universally cold and frigid there but it is like you know it'll get dark like at like four or five p.m when we first get there and then by the time we leave it'll get dark at like 3 p.m like it really drastically changes over the course of november yeah yeah but there's like boiling hot water just like shooting up out of the earth there all the time yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah man i want to go there so bad i i studied a lot of viking history in college and like iceland's always been like i gotta i need to see it because a lot of the people that like ended up habitating that place were like fleeing the vikings they were like yo these
Starting point is 00:08:05 norwegians are wiling like let's get over here did the vikings ever go there and like mess them yeah i'm sure they did i mean i as far as i can remember what was that 14 years ago uh yeah i mean that's like those are the remnants that you hold on you're like i know they were fleeing the other Vikings and then they have a great soccer team that overperforms. Well, I'll let you know how it is. Yeah. It seems like a nice, easy place to travel. And also it's like 96% vaccinated kind of thing. And you have to be vaccinated to go in. So as far as like, it feels like a safe first trip after this whole thing. Sure. All right, Andrew, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:08:46 First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. There is a COVID pill that might even help some anti-vaxxers out there. Oh, you get it? Yeah, because you actually, yeah, it's a pill that gives you COVID. It's good to just take the mystery out of it, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah, just knock it out, you know? Yeah, because whenever someone says, where'd you get it? Like, you don't know what to say, but now you're like, oh, I got it from this pill. I got it from the pill. Oh, you took the pill. Yeah, you got to just roll the dice. And it's, because I mean, honestly, if you haven't had it, you're always wondering, like, how would I do if I got it? Right.
Starting point is 00:09:19 No, this is a pill that you can take after you get COVID, though, which, you know, we've heard a lot of cases of people who are anti-vaxxers until they're like, you know, headed into the hospital from COVID symptoms. And then they're like, please. And then it's too late. But we got a pill. They're like, well, you take this FDA approved treatment. Right. How about this one? Why don't you just tell me what you want to do
Starting point is 00:09:45 yeah we're gonna talk about texas a couple texas stories we are going to talk about uh the murder rate we are going to talk about the the folgers jingle we are going to talk about squid game andrew have you have you watched squid game uh, I have seen two episodes of Squid Game. Okay, we're roughly on the same place. I've seen episode 7 and episode 9. Nice. I'm loving it. I'm a little confused, but
Starting point is 00:10:14 the character development needs work. Yeah, it needs work. I don't know what the hell they're thinking. And we'll talk about a couple other stories all of that plenty more but first andrew we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history this is going to be boring because i already addressed it but the last thing i really searched was about that active volcano in iceland because i'm trying to see that while i'm there
Starting point is 00:10:38 there's been a volcano that's been active for a few months and it's like the first time in decades that it's been active and apparently you can just go and see lava pouring out of it. Why are you referring to it in such general terms? Why don't you just flawlessly pronounce the name of the volcano? Very good question. Well, you must know I searched active volcano in Iceland right now. I did not search the name, and it is a lot of S's and K's and V's. Is it the same one that like shut
Starting point is 00:11:05 down air traffic in europe a few years i don't think so i think it's oh another one i mean the country is all over there i know the country is full of them but this one in particular is like just been very consistent all year just like tons of lava and you can hear it and see it and it looks cool yeah that's i'm gonna try and see that it's interesting like i that's the one detail that has stuck with me about any time i've read about iceland is that like there's just hot what like just a natural supply of hot water that is like they have all these like hot water baths public baths and then like you love a hot spring yeah i love it that's my favorite but like that's how that where they get electricity is also from just like the naturally heated water and yeah so it's it's
Starting point is 00:11:50 a very steampunk country uh what is something you think is overrated my thing that i think is overrated right now is covet 19 hey Everyone's talking about it and everyone's freaking obsessed with the thing. And it's been two years of COVID this and COVID that. And it's such a small little guy, but everyone's talking about it. Even the celebs.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Even the celebs are talking about it. Who isn't talking about it? No, but that is truly like, at this point in this journey, that's the thing that I'm just like, I i mean obviously it's sad and people are dying and our society is being torn apart on ideological grounds but it's also just i'm sick of it right at a certain point yes and i i mean i know you have to talk about it and the other stuff to talk about but it's like for the sake of our conversations hopefully we'll get over these
Starting point is 00:12:44 things soon yeah it's funny because the art piece you're sitting in front of kind of looks like a covid so yeah and i had this art piece before covid okay but no it i mean it is just like it's so interesting to think of like when we first started hearing rumors of this thing and you know early 2019 or sorry sorry, early 2020, to think that like two years later or whatever, we would still be talking about it and obsessed with it. It's pretty nuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Yeah. I mean, there's not really anything to say also, but that is also part of the conversation now. I feel like every Zoom meeting I have starts with the somebody saying how's it going and then people being like well you can't even ask that anymore right i'm like yes this has all been pre-scripted i wonder if culturally there's ever been anything that has been this like long lasting of a story you know right this boring i don't mean to be a downer it's not i mean it is interesting this pill sounds interesting that we're in war two yeah i guess so but i was every conversation like
Starting point is 00:13:51 oh the war were they like were they talking about other stuff i think it was but what yeah i think it is like that like that is is the closest we've come to having just a story that was affecting everybody around the globe. Just not. Oh, wait, I got one. Global warming. Yeah. That would be the opposite, though. That would be one if anybody talked about it.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yeah, that's the opposite. Right. Oh, boy. Yeah. Yeah. I guess Hitler, Hitler and COVID, they kind of take the cake. Yeah. Yeah. right oh boy yeah yeah i guess hitler hitler and kovid they kind of take the cake yeah yeah there was uh i guess uh in america 9-11 was a real uh was a real doozy if you were saying 9-11 the year later i don't think so you know what i mean like it this is like it's like one of those things like
Starting point is 00:14:42 to your point every day there will have to be an utterance of it yeah but yeah that's because yeah i wonder at what point it will become like when it does end like what the time span is on like covet 19 discussion you know like is it going to be like no one's going to talk about and then a year later it's like actually kind of kitschy to bring it up and like funny like what's the what's the timeline of right exists on the social spectrum right well i'm more curious to see if like if it affects things like saying how are you you know like your point jack of how like on a zoom call you're like i don't even what's even the fucking point of saying it like we all know shit's very grim so hey things are grim aside from that how are things
Starting point is 00:15:21 and i don't know if we come up with a new way of being like yeah you're right all right like and it's just not how are you it's just more of like an assumed but yeah you're good all right yeah will it ever be okay again for people with just like boundless positive energy like the ceos of the world to just be like i I am great. I'm amazing. Thank you for asking. I feel for them. Yeah, it's tough. It's been tough for them out there. Yeah. I worry about them. Andrew, what is something you think is underrated? Taking a nice hot shower. I feel like there's been all this discussion recently about these celebs who don't shower. And then during the pandemic, I feel like people kind of use it as a point of pride of like, I haven't taken a shower in 10 days.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Quarantine much? And so I kind of think that I like to take a shower every day. It's how I start my day. It kind of feels like the moment the day has started. So for me, I think that is underrated right now. And you're not saying this because there are flies visible in my zoom box right no no i'm not referencing anything i can smell over zoom i probably okay i don't know like how did you but jack i'm curious how did you actually get stink lines to appear yeah it's that
Starting point is 00:16:37 that is kind of the experiment was could i get the stink lines to appear stink lines scientifically possible and the lines that actually show the fly's motion as it circles around my head. It's like an old Matt Groening comic strip. There is something like almost like I can't
Starting point is 00:16:57 fully wake up unless I've had a shower. I feel like. I also feel like as connected as we are to our phones and the internet, like a shower is one of the only times you can get away. Speak for yourself, man. I got like. I also feel like as connected as we are to our phones and the internet, like a shower is one of the only times you can get away. Speak for yourself, man. I got it. You got it.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Like you got an iPad in the wall there. Just texting. Built in. Yeah. Just. How hot a shower do y'all go? Because I know people like I used to, I realized when I was younger,
Starting point is 00:17:21 I had no palette or skin tolerance level for a really hot shower. I remember there would be a difference between when my mom would have that water. I was like, oh my God, are you burning yourself? And then what I would get into where people were like, this is cold. And now I'm damn near burning my fucking skin off when I get in the shower. Yeah, I like to push it to the limit, I think. You do? Oh, okay. Yeah, I think I like to go where it's uncomfortable and then go one notch down right right yeah like you gotta find right you find that point and then a wee bit a wee bit back yeah yeah yeah i'm baby i like lukewarm shower your baby luke i'm a baby baby luke okay baby luke i mean i just my uh my wife likes it way hotter than i do and so that's
Starting point is 00:18:10 the only thing i really have to compare it to right and but i've i've heard other people say that their wives are like take their showers hotter than they do and maybe that's just because i'm friends with just a bunch of babies yeah no that's an old seinfeld joke he's like what's up with wives and their shower hot wife hot shower yeah it's totally it's i i feel like that is one of those personal... My five-year-old likes his bath water super duper hot and my three-year-old does not. And that makes things very difficult.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Oh, right. Yeah. We'd have to put a dividing wall in the bathroom or something. We'd be like, here's the hot zone and baby zone. You can't make the baby take the hot shower. So it just sucks for the five you know what i i actually had an invention as a kid that i i still have never seen it incorporated because i used to take baths when i was a kid and the idea was maybe you guys have seen this before a bath
Starting point is 00:19:14 with a spigot on both sides because when you're in the bath and you're trying to warm it up and you get only the hot water on one side. Yeah, and you gotta, like, move it over. How come rich people don't have two spigots? Just an idea. I used to use, like, this toy hockey stick that I had to stir in, like, a cauldron. Yeah, it was, like, a...
Starting point is 00:19:36 There was, like, this dumb fucking toy, I remember, in the early 90s, where it was, like, an electronic, like, indoor hover puck. It was, like, basically indoor hover puck it was like basically a like a hover craft but in the shape of like a puck with like that was all foam and you turned it on and like the fan would sort of like lift it off the ground and to play with it you had these dumb plastic sticks that became my bath stirrer like i was making bath booze and shit um i remember my mom was like what are you doing i'm like it just, it's too hot on this side.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Right. Trying to even the shit out. Yeah. I thought the hockey thing, the like hockey game you were describing had something to do with the bath. I was so confused. Are you guys fans with, are you guys fans of showers that like hit you from all the different angles?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Have you ever been in one of those where it's like the, the nozzles i've done a spa in vegas i saw that that's the best example i can think of yeah yeah it's just hard to like car wash yeah like you can't like lather up though with that on you know i mean right immediately like i need some soap to stay on momentarily yeah you gotta find safety in the corner but uh for me the like whenever there's something like some like the rain fall head like directly over my skull whenever i've been in a thing i'm like this is it yeah being like you know six feet you know six one you know how it is a lot of them they just kind of blast you like right on top of your forehead so i appreciate something i'm right there with you, brother. I'm 6'1", too.
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Starting point is 00:25:12 And we're back. And there's a pill that just had a great trial. Now, they nailed the trial. Good job, Merck. We're always pulling for those guys. So basically, when taken by people who already have COVID, it cut the number of deaths in half, I believe. And hospitalizations. And hospitalizations.
Starting point is 00:25:32 So it's kind of a new... That's a game changer. Yeah, a new changer in the game was how I was going to put it. Precisely. Sounds a little better. I like that. Changer in the game. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, that's great news for all the people who refuse to take there's like a look if i'm gonna put my little
Starting point is 00:25:53 conspiracy hat on a little bit right there's this whole all of the mainstream news coverage of this has been like it's a game changer this is especially going to be great like, it's a game changer. This is especially going to be great for, or it's a changer of the game, either changer of or in the game, you know, developing nations that have very low vaccination rates. This could help offset the damage there. But part of me is just like, well, hold on though because the thing that we were talking about was how we were
Starting point is 00:26:23 going to get the vaccine as widely available as possible. And the big thing was a lot of pharmaceutical companies like, well, we don't you know, it's proprietary. We're not sharing anything because it's a lot of money or this like really tired argument that is saying shit like, well, you know, some of the countries lack the facilities to develop these medications and things like that when they're completely ignoring the fact that there are many medications that people consume that are manufactured in these other countries. And so I'm like, why don't it almost feels like they can give up on the vaccine thing to then just do the. Well, if everybody has COVID, then everybody's going to need this pill maybe multiple times because of whatever. And I'm like, I wish we still had the same emphasis on the vaccination part of it too. But that was just me being a little salty
Starting point is 00:27:10 at the pharmaceutical companies for not doing the right thing, which is to make the fucking vaccine as widely available. Right. It's basically we've, you know, luckily come up with this miracle, but then they're kind of like, all right, we have that miracle,
Starting point is 00:27:21 but here's something that's kind of okay too. And it's like, no, get the miracle out there to as many people as possible. Yeah. But imagine this, like you're probably vaccinated like maybe once if you need a booster, okay. And another time, but dude, if you get COVID a bunch of times, you're going to take this a bunch of times. You got to take eight pills a day as well. Yeah. But I mean, again, at the same time, that's not to discount the fact that it will absolutely save lives because of the nature of vaccination rates that I think for the
Starting point is 00:27:46 longest time people were like, I think thinking like, when will there actually be a treatment for COVID that isn't going to the hospital and just sort of addressing your symptoms and these other interventions? Right. That's what seems craziest about this pill is that you can take it at home, which is the first time that there's been anything available for that. Right. Exactly. Well, I mean, we're not going to talk about ivermectin. You could take that as well. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. And put bleach inside your skin.
Starting point is 00:28:11 The race to develop these treatments is definitely speeding up. Has progress stalled on like getting these vaccines to other countries? Look at the state of Africa right now. You know, in the Congogo there's i think 86 million people and it's like a 0.0 or 004 percent vaccination rate it's like the lowest in the world it's like almost like it's like as if three white people like traveled there and they changed the vaccination rates or something but there's a huge lack of vaccination in africa and that's why a lot of people have said let us do this shit here like we can we can create stuff on the continent or you
Starting point is 00:28:53 with a global effort help create like more robust facilities to do that and speed this up very quickly and you know when you look at those kind of like when you look at that situation i'm like well i like at some point we're this vaccine has to be as widely available as possible because this is going to be something that as most epidemiologists say like we're gonna have to deal with this for a while so yeah just cut to the treatment part i feel like is very lucrative for pharmaceutical companies and is helpful but it's but like there is also a dire gap in vaccination rates in you know africa and the rest of the developing world yeah and it feels very much like our sort of centrist mainstream media to be be like oh they they made a pill you can just they made a product that people can buy so we're're good, you know, that'll do it.
Starting point is 00:29:48 But it does provide a relief because I think for the longest time, it almost just felt like, well, if you get COVID, you thug it out and hope that your body is, you know, your, their constitution is robust enough to handle it. Or you end up in a hospital and to know what's interesting is like,
Starting point is 00:30:00 I feel like that mentality also leads to low vaccination rates. Like the fact that the, the, the vibe is like, whatever your constitution is, like there's a certain number of macho people who are like, I feel like that mentality also leads to low vaccination rates. Like the fact that the, the, the vibe is like, whatever your constitution is, like there's a certain number of macho people who are like, I'm strong, actually, I don't need the vaccine. So it's actually worked in our detriment, that mentality. Yeah. There was just a story about how bad, like, I feel like we got a lot of news when COVID ripped through cities. And I kind of had a sense that it had been bad for rural communities just based on the politics of the people there. But there's a new report that's just saying that it's really, really because of the fact that it is rural areas have poor health, unvaccinated people more likely to live in poverty. Medical facilities are often inadequate or overcrowded. It's just been the head of the
Starting point is 00:30:52 National Rural Health Association said we turned rural communities into kill boxes, which is. Yikes. Yeah. But I mean, that's it makes sense when you kind of if you spent time in rural communities. There's also like a vibe like I visit my mom like earlier this year after I got vaccinated and stuff. And they're even just talking to her over the last couple of years. Like there is definitely a vibe in smaller places where they're kind of like, no, we're out here. We're chill. Like, yeah, here's good. No one looks sick. Like it's like and then they they all let their guard down,
Starting point is 00:31:25 and then it all kind of spread into their communities. We die politely in our own homes. Yeah. Quietly. Well, let's talk Texas. First, there's a Quinnipiac poll that is saying that Greg Abbott is currently not very popular. The majority of the voters in Texas don't think he deserves another term, which would be great news if they really liked one of the people who's running against him.
Starting point is 00:31:54 But we've got 33 percent who think Beto would make a good governor. And then the real news here, 25 percent think Matthew McConaughey would make a good governor, baby. Are you doing your warm-up exercise? Yeah, I'm doing my warm-up. That shit. Yeah, I mean. 25% think Matthew McConaughey. Yes. Was that an option on the poll or was it a writing yeah
Starting point is 00:32:26 because there was like murmurs and stuff and they said look what do you think 25 percent that's alarming not because i'm you know like the fact that i guess comparatively you'd be like yes i mean at this point i'd like yeah probably matthew Matthew McConaughey probably would do a better job than Greg Abbott. But still to be like, I think Matthew McConaughey would be good. That is a little worrying, given the trajectory of like, or the evolution of the kinds of people that are running for office where, you know, maybe that does happen. But I think with as it relates to Greg Abbott, it's just clear that all of his policies are just wildly unpopular. Even with Republicans, 70% of Texans were like, yo, this Abbott abortion thing is absurd. It's absolutely, this is unfathomable.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Because most people are like, I think the most humane thing that pro-life people take as it relates to abortion is in in cases of like rape or incest, they'll say, well, yeah, there are exceptions where it makes sense and et cetera, et cetera. And this is proven, I think, I guess, to be unpopular with most people. Now, what happens with that? I don't know, because at the same time, they have very aggressive voter suppression hitting the books in that state. So he might not need much more than a barely 50 percent to win or something. When is the election? Is it next year? I believe so. We don't actually know that.
Starting point is 00:33:57 We don't know. At some point. This isn't like a real news podcast. OK, I understand. No, no, it's a midterm. It's part of the midterms. You had a Google alert for Matthew McConaughey. You saw the news story. You started thinking, whoa, governor of Texas? That guy's bad?
Starting point is 00:34:12 Huh, maybe Matt's got a chance here. First thing I look for is, are there new picks that come with this news break? I mean, look, I'm looking at my Lincoln in my driveway right now, and I bought that thing because of his commercial. So don't worry. I'm looking at my Lincoln in my driveway right now, and I bought that thing because of his commercial. So don't worry. I'm on board. It's not just like murmurs behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Matthew McConaughey has said he's measuring a run for governor. So he's openly speculating that he's going to run. Just find someone. I mean, look, Beto tried to beat Ted Cruzz it didn't work out for him i'm curious i don't know given the fact that only 33 percent of these people polled were interested in him what that actually means to mount a serious challenge against greg abbott so i'm curious if they somehow find someone that actually threads that needle of like being a democrat who you know may have what it takes to you know get a plurality of votes but i don't know it's impossible in texas
Starting point is 00:35:14 maybe it is mcconaughey yeah i think it might be i mean it really like what would that be what that debate look like probably be the most entertaining debate of all time. Yeah, like what? And does he just use like McConaughey-isms up there? And people are like, yeah, fuck yeah. He's like, the budget is a flat circle. And you're like, what? Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I mean, this says everything's a flat circle. This whole campaign is about flat circles. Governor McConaugheyney what about climate change well the planet is actually a flat circle everyone's like okay oh boy i call it the firmament oh no no no no no no never mind the moon's a spotlight all right party at the moon tower that was actually a tower that the moon was on you know matthew mcconaughey seems like a nice guy though right am i falling for it yeah probably he seems cool i mean i i feel like there was something that came out like recently where his politics were clearly not in the right place. I was like, of course, you're just like a guy who spent time in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So you've collected a lot of like a pin, like democratic opinions. But whether or not you're like living that or believing that, I think is a completely other discussion. Because, dude, it's Matthew McConaughey. Like, let's not. So I'm saying 25 percent. Come on now. We don't need people like that we need like people who have like activist backgrounds or like coming from the communities that actually need help like that's how we're gonna write things but for a larf
Starting point is 00:36:55 fuck it why not sure fine the houston chronicle by the way has a headline from last week time is a flat circle. Matthew McConaughey still measuring. They didn't even like find a way to like cleverly put it in the bank. They just said he's measuring run times a flat circle. Remember that? Remember that? Like sometimes I as as silly as it is, I'm surprised that more celebrities haven't had more success running for politics just because of how much.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I mean, I guess Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump are both like among the most powerful politicians of our lifetime. And like they were both just people who kind of hacked the system and were like, I look like a president and I'm doing the thing that makes you... Here's a question. If you could have any A-list celebrity be the president, you think they would actually do a good job, who would be your pick? That's a great question. Yeah, I haven't thought of it either but i think they're
Starting point is 00:38:15 guy fieri yeah okay gang he knows he knows he knows food is important so like i feel like he would really address issues like hunger and you know access to the flavors he's got a great record as it relates to lgbtq rights and like doing like mass weddings for same-sex couples i also feel like being in a restaurant is inherently working with the lower class and like people who have minimum wage jobs and i feel like to understand the plight of the common worker in a big way right although that he might take their restaurant tours you and he's like what's wrong with tips they get tips and you're like oh fuck guy come on no but he's like, what's wrong with tips? They get tips and you're like, oh, fuck, guy, come on. No, but he's like done the most, he's like raised so much money during the pandemic for
Starting point is 00:38:49 restaurants. So I think that's the right answer. And he's like kind of every man enough to appeal to the demographics of the country. If it's someone like Tom Cruise, people are just going to be like, no, he's a rich celebrity, he's in Hollywood. Guy's a little more of the people. If it's someone like Tom Cruz, people are just going to be like, no, he's a rich celebrity. He's in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Guy's a little more of the people. Yeah, that as well. Guy's a little more of the people. Guy could go to the reddest parts of the state. With that spiked hair and those wraparounds, he's wearing the uniform. Yeah, and as the assignment was
Starting point is 00:39:24 an A-list celebrity, and I i mean you picked an a-plus list celebrity oh yeah that's the top of the what are you trying to say jack you're being flippant here that i'm not what no okay good i'm just saying like when you were at conde nest and like they did the vanity fair post oscars party wasn't he like the first first name on the list we come on jack i told you that in secret we had to kick him out we kicked him out we said gay get out of here we don't know who you are yeah make way for vin diesel who's drunk well speaking of texas uh alex jones just lost in court in kind of a big bigly yeah. Yeah. Like, was this the,
Starting point is 00:40:05 so this is the, the case where he was harassing the families of Sandy hook shooting. Yes. The whole crisis actors. Right. Claiming that they were crisis actors and right. They had their lives ruined after they already had their lives ruined. Exactly. With harassment campaigns and people being like,
Starting point is 00:40:23 you're just trying to get the guns taken away because that's what alex told me and so many families sued him for defamation in connecticut and also texas and you know he's done a lot of things like in his depositions he came around like no like i actually believe it like that that's like not true and we've heard him also say things to the effect of like i'm like more of a performance artist right and also like in his own words he said that he was suffering like a form of psychosis which led to him saying that but that was amongst so many different excuses that he gave out to try and be like just leave me alone well a judge just ruled against him in info wars with like a pretty scathing ruling which is essentially saying like like, he lost by default, which is like the worst kind of way you can lose.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Like where they're just like, nah, the judge is like, I'm over this. You're not cooperating. You've been abusing the discovery process. You've not been following any of the rules. In fact, you've gone back on so many things you said. That's it. I'm like, this is you, as they say.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah. It seems hard to make the argument that you were like suffering from psychosis, that you are no longer suffering from and that you are. Temporary. It was temporary. And I was going through a lot. And I don't know what that actually the medical definition of that term is. But then he's still hosting the show in that same persona. Like, how does he justify that? Look, my honor?
Starting point is 00:41:46 That's I don't know why I'm on trial here. OK, I thought that would be enough to be given some form of sympathy for what's going on. But yeah, so now a jury is going to decide like how much he's going to owe the plaintiffs. And I can imagine it would be significant, you'd think. and it would be significant, you'd think, but unless there's a lot of InfoWars fans in that jury, you'd imagine that they would be like, yeah, that's untold suffering that has been compounded by this person's lies. It's kind of the worst thing anyone's done in public.
Starting point is 00:42:17 It's just so... Yeah, it's a bad perspective. Yeah, it's a real hard one to justify. I'm just even confused as to how and he's made sort of mounting. It's kind of like, well, there's been a ton of them and zero gun control legislation. So it's not like it's even effective if they really are ploys. It's like, well, they're not working, so calm down. Yeah. But that's the thing about these sort of thought-killing, conspiratory cliches that people like that throw out it's just like yeah faking it to go after the second amendment is it actually no right but i
Starting point is 00:43:11 don't care because that's that's the thing that activates my outrage of course it's not working because we pointed out they were crisis actors yeah exactly right uh i wanted to talk about so there there's a stat that i'm seeing a lot of places recently about how murders were up in 2020. Murders seem to be trending upwards for 2021. The New York Times just published an article about it last week, and they spend multiple paragraphs suggesting that the Black lives matter protests are in some way or another like responsible and so i wanted to just put this theory out here that they don't really mention in any other than to say that like health care was under stress but there are a lot of articles before the pandemic even about how the drop in the murder rate has a lot to do with the fact that these like emergency medical care systems got way, way better at like helping people, helping shooting victims.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And so the drop in murders you're seeing is actually just more people surviving the shootings, essentially. That's interesting. were being stretched to the breaking point, that was kind of one of the first thoughts I had is like, wow, so many people must be dying that weren't dying before. But like that isn't really being raised as an explanation. And I think it's so Penn Medicine, which is like one of the best hospitals for, you know, helping shooting victims, just released a study in 2020 about how like they they basically did a they tried to count the number of shooting injuries like including people who don't die and they were basically saying like that number is not counted like which is bonkers to me. But it seems to kind of be part of the whole thing we've seen where shootings by police officers are not counted. Gun deaths were not counted for a long time, even though the CDC was fighting for them to be counted because the gun lobby was more powerful.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And so it's just, you know, the things that are happening that I think are most responsible for this is one, like there's just not the health care system is being stretched to the breaking point. And the health care system was a big reason, a big thing, keeping the murder rate from being incredibly like much higher before. And then also there's just, you know, the media and the gun companies are like, you know, conspiring to drive up gun sales. And so there's way, way more guns now on the street than there ever has been.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Those would seem to be like the two main contributing factors. And yet this New York Times article doesn't mention mention it mentions the fact that there are more guns, but it doesn't like really connect it to it doesn't really make a compelling case. I guess they're just like, that's one of the things. it's interesting that it's difficult to get statistics on how many gun injuries there are versus gun deaths because the gun lobby just like doesn't want that information to get out there of like how many people are injured by guns annually yeah i think that's really fascinating yeah and yeah speaking of like underreporting there's that new uh sort of study that came out that's saying police are underreporting fatal shootings too that are being properly attributed to the police and that found that like yeah black people were three and a half times more likely to die by
Starting point is 00:47:12 police gunfire than than any other demographic or actually than white people and so yeah there's like a lot of there's so many different sort of explanations for things and i it's there's been a few that was connecting this study to say like, well, it looks like we need more cops. Yes. Exactly. So what this looks like,
Starting point is 00:47:31 if this is the case and black lives matter, protests and uprisings made police feel bad, then God, I mean, maybe we just need more cops to brutalize people who are just out there in the streets and that would solve it. But that doesn't seem like a coherent solution. The right. cops to brutalize people who are just out there in the streets and that would solve it but that doesn't seem like a coherent solution either the right the populations where there are where they're
Starting point is 00:47:53 seeing the biggest spike in murder rates are in isolated marginalized communities where you know and they're part of the american health care system where you are deemed not worthy of life-saving medical care if you don't have a full-time job and like the problem they're gonna say the problem is too few police it's just fucking inexcusable like on the especially during this last year which is like proven more than any other time like how interconnected everything is like the fact that there are more shooting deaths because of covid because they can't get care because of the like it's all so thoroughly connected that just to say there were some protests a year ago and that's why more people are dying it's just like not accurate right yeah rather than you know zooming
Starting point is 00:48:37 out far enough to say totally what's the root cause of crime? Yeah. Right. Exactly. How do we stop the criminals? More police rather than, Oh, we actually need to provide opportunity for more people because if left your own devices, your recourse in trying to survive, maybe extra legal activity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:58 And then to feel safe and then to feel safe doing that, you have to have a gun and the, and it just all is right. Compounded. Yeah. Yeah. And I just all is compounded. Yeah. Yeah. And I just want to go on the record of saying, like, for the past decades,
Starting point is 00:49:08 my murder rate has stayed at zero every year. Oh, good. Yeah. For decades and decades. That's your guarantee. Yeah, guarantee. I'm at zero, and it's not changing anytime soon,
Starting point is 00:49:17 so I just want to get that out there. Could you imagine, like, Andrew's like, dude, he hatcheted a bunch of people at a campsite what the fuck our fact checker actually came back and said that's not accurate hold on andrew where were you last number look self-defense is different right self-defense with that with a hat you're wearing a michael myers mask seasonal self-defense it's halloween like so all the stuff that we just talked about gets either less than a paragraph or no mention
Starting point is 00:49:54 and then the this new york times article has three paragraphs that begin with the sentence the protests that erupted after the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis were also an important factor in 2020, although experts differ about why. And then they basically say the two possible explanations are that the police being under scrutiny and demoralized pulled back from some aspects of crime prevention. some aspects of crime prevention and then there's also the explanation others put the emphasis on the public suggesting that diminished respect for the police prompted more people to try and take the law into their own hands what are you a fucking principal from an 80s film you fucking believe that this is in the new york times like they're it's dude they're something's up over there they're fucking up like they fuck up worse and worse every day I don't think I think this has been the way it is like I think this is
Starting point is 00:50:50 just all part of that sort of central like mainstream media narrative that like you know with respect to the police and fucking right but I guess it's because it's like even other places like well maybe we actually can be a little more nuanced and like talk to other sources of information to give a better understanding where it's because it's like even other places like, well, maybe we actually can be a little more nuanced and like talk to other sources of information to give a better understanding
Starting point is 00:51:09 where it's like, I think they're just probably just so entrenched in their way of doing things that they're not even really willing to challenge like the perspective of the paper itself to say, like, is there like, is there something where we can have a less like pro law enforcement bend to it that isn't in an op-ed like that's actually the reporting of the paper and i don't know what you know yeah and this isn't an op-ed this is the reporting on the murder rate being up and yeah i mean so much of the mainstream media is like that sort of relationship between the media and the police where like they go to the police for the official account of what happened and that that includes like statistical explanations yeah hey chief what can you tell us
Starting point is 00:51:54 well if these blm protests didn't happen many there probably wouldn't be as many murders great thank you i'll print that yeah exactly like don't you're not gonna ask me anything okay fuck it maybe if they didn't hurt our feelings yeah uh basically our feelings are hurt and we do not like the black i'm sorry chief did you say fee wings uh no more no further questions at this time i'm gonna go into my amazon booth uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now.
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Starting point is 00:56:46 what what do you think the cutoff is people 30 and up probably like if you yelled it at him they would know the best part of waking up is Folgers in your snowy morning yeah like does it have alternate lyrics or they just were like I'm an artist okay maybe just the the first commercial there was snow in the background or something i think there was like well there used to be like like there were more lyrics you know like that just that was like sort of describing like a scene where it wasn't just like there were lyrics that preceded the best part of waking up as folgers in your cup but anyway that's a track called Real Snowy Morning. And what's very interesting is the like the performers rights to this jingle was up for auction last week,
Starting point is 00:57:32 where essentially like you could buy their cut of their performance rights to this the jingle. So whenever it's played, if you own them, now you would get cut in on those residual payments. And the bidding of this started off at $63,000. They said, you can own a portion of the rights to this jingle. It ended up going for $90,500. And the way this works is every time this shit airs on television with that song playing, they're going to get a cut. So far in the last year, this thing has paid out 11 747 dollars in
Starting point is 00:58:07 like royalties now was that all from folgers yeah because it's that that song they still use it it's tied yeah yeah and they still do like come they you know they modernize it but that that little ditty yeah it's typically a sonic tag it's still in a lot of their marketing stuff. But a lot of people are noticing that, like, in the last, like, they said it's made about $20,000 in the last maybe 10 years. And this actually, like, it only really started making money again in the last two years. So it's like, also, if Folgers went another way and, you know, Migos starts doing the fucking thing, you're fucked, bro. if Folgers went another way and Migos starts doing the fucking thing, you're fucked, bro. Because if they don't use that shit anymore, then you just
Starting point is 00:58:47 have a slim shred of this commercial. Have you guys seen the Folgers commercial with the brother and sister? Coming home? Yeah. They really want to fuck each other so bad. It's like, you're the president. Yeah, you're my president president there's a lot of you
Starting point is 00:59:07 know there was a piece that was written like a few years ago where they did a fucking deep dive into that commercial to try and talk to everyone involved to be like um why the fuck was that and everyone's like i don't understand like a lot of them were like you guys are fucking perverted like there's nothing aside from maybe those looks that was making you think that uh it was that sexual but i don't know the there was a the way their eyes light up at each other oh my god yeah have you seen it andrew i haven't seen it but i do want to fuck my sister so i definitely get the vibe i for sure get the vibe let me uh then allow me to just play a little bit of this commercial i do want to see it yeah so people can understand and and look we will give you a
Starting point is 00:59:52 running commentary all right let's see i must have the wrong house. Sister? Yeah, I mean, that is flirty as hell. Like, he's like, am I at the wrong house? What, they're in bed together? No, it's mom and dad. That's the parents. I brought you something from far away.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Okay, yeah, I mean. Yeah, just, like, here's your present. present and then okay that it's that look up yeah there's a lot of looks i mean this is very flirty you're the present okay yeah i mean come like there's there's even a moment where they there's like an awkward moment where there's like eye contact and then he has to break eye contact because otherwise they would start kissing like that yes yes that is that moment i don't i mean yes the bashful eye contact and then looking down is like so universally sexual tension yeah like in a rom-com yeah yeah i it's it's funny they said uh timothy simons from veep he was operating the cameras during the auditions and callback phase of this commercial too like he also contributed to this article
Starting point is 01:01:11 um about like the there's like it's just funny how much people have been like just obsessed with this commercial like over the years to be like this is the weirdest one or like just one that's been hotly contested to be like what is is that? What are y'all saying here? But I don't know if they maybe the director was just really horny or something or the actors. It's the performance. It seems like the director go. No, man. Like more tension, man.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Right. Right. Sister just said, you're the president, man. Let that land, man. I can see it in your eyes. I mean, it's also the camera shots. Like, the shots are, like, weirdly sexual.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Like, they're super close in on his eye, like, looking at her. Like, that's sexual tension right there. Yeah. When you have your chin down looking up,
Starting point is 01:01:54 and you smile. That's not brother-sister. And look, I'm an only child, so what the fuck do I know? But this would definitely, if I saw two people do that, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:02:03 yo, do I need to leave? Are you good? Also, i just want to say this fucking guy who apparently he came back i just have to add one last thing he's like oh man i just got back from west africa he's like finally coffee mother wait really ethiopian coffee uh kenyan coffee uh ivory coast these people make they have coffee there that is really good so finally coffee that smells like shit there's just like that colonizer element to it it's an incestuous colonizer narrative and i'm not here for it fuck you know coffee and wow i yeah. I wonder if their explanation is colored by the fact that they maybe really had a relationship
Starting point is 01:02:50 or something on the filming because that is some serious palpable sexual tension there. It would be great to hire these actors again and just be like, I'm doing a comedy thing. Are you down to reprise these roles
Starting point is 01:03:05 like i'll pay you like a fair rate but like we're gonna take this we're gonna continue like this commercial like it just we have to see what happened the two days after this yeah it'll be like cousins the movie except with siblings wait what's cousins i think that's a ted danson movie where he is fucking his cousin oh my god i think oh from 1989 interesting i just remember always seeing it at the video store i think the video it's like a rom-com but yeah about cousins yeah and it's like gosh won't people just be okay with us fucking each other yeah anyways squid game is taking over yeah miles and i have watched episode one both right before going to bed last night and then i didn't sleep great but um i slept great actually did you her majesty just it was a little it was intense for her and i was, you gotta decouple the violence from what the
Starting point is 01:04:05 message is here. You know what I mean? It's not just people getting blasted left and right. I mean, what's it saying? It's still really hardcore. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe I'm a little bit desensitized. And then, Andrew, you have watched episode 8 and 9. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I watched episode 1 and 2. I actually think it gets better in episode 2. I think it goes in some surprising ways which i will now spoil for everyone ten minutes in no um but no i i do think the first episode it's kind of like a little predictable but cool but the second episode does some surprising things where it makes me think oh i'm excited to watch the rest of this show so i'm excited for you guys yeah yeah it makes some interesting choices that i that you don't see coming and that um i think add more depth to the story and the characters it's interesting because a lot of the like kind of memefied things that are happening are also things from the first episode so at first i was like wow
Starting point is 01:04:56 yeah i was yeah i was looking at that yeah like people people are slapping each other in the subway which seems like a random meme but that happens in the first episode and then i was wondering are they just being are these all people who only watched the first episode and we're so blown away by it that they they were like i gotta go out there and express my love for this first episode or are they being super respectful of those of us who haven't seen the second episode and haven't good question good question but yeah i mean so there's a there's a they they use a real phone number in in the first episode when he gives them that like playstation card he gives them a place what looks like a playstation a card with a what looks like the playstation logo on it and then on the other side is a phone number. And that was a real phone number. It is the most centrally framed phone number that I could imagine in a popular film.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And then it was real. There's a person whose life has been turned upside down because they're now getting 4,000 calls a day. They are also a just random dude in his mid-40s. And I just want to quickly say all 4,000 of those are from me. Yes. I do call it 4,000 times a day. Just frantically. I signed the thing with my body rights.
Starting point is 01:06:15 I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. But the person is like a 40-year-old, 40- and who like seems to be have seemed to have been randomly selected so maybe it's the filmmakers actually like doing something meta and nice that person's gonna get pulled into a dark game oh shit and there's a i think they're gonna end up being okay with all those calls because now a South Korean semi-fringe political candidate who's running for president wants to buy the number for $85,000. So I think
Starting point is 01:06:52 what's the goal with that? People call it and then there's like a message. It's just like, hey, you should vote for this guy. Is that what he's hoping to do? He's like, I've got a solution to our inequality. Call this number. I'm like, well, wait, hold on. What's your platform exactly? To kill a lot of you. Squid Game. I'm running a Squid Game platform. You're a Squid Game. The costumes, that was an immediate thought I had
Starting point is 01:07:17 the next time that I thought about Halloween costumes is there seems to be some very dope, very easy to pull off Halloween costumes throughout the first episode. And they are being sold online. The ones I'm looking at don't look, I don't know, they don't look super trustworthy.
Starting point is 01:07:36 One of them just says, Squid Game cosplay jumpsuit, Squid Game cosplay costume, Squid Game mask costume, Squid Game, like it looks like it was just written by a uh seo bot right but you know and then the tracksuit that the prisoners or whatever contestants have does is that what that it actually looks like in the yeah it looks similar to that okay all right yeah not too all right i didn't actually watch the whole first episode
Starting point is 01:08:05 guys whoa only five minutes in uh no i'm just actually quick question you guys watching dubbed or in korean what are you doing oh in korean in korean hey it started as dubbed for me and like five minutes in i was like i don't like this but it watching yeah dubbed just like it takes so much away. Like you can't really see the right performances. Because even if I don't speak the language, like you can, there's like a, there's a, you know, an intangible quality that comes across in that way.
Starting point is 01:08:37 The performance. Yeah. And I've actually decided, I like the second episode so much that I'm not going to watch anymore until I become fluent in Korean. So that's exciting. Have you started taking lessons or no no no no i mean i'm not gonna let it happen naturally uh sure i'm just gonna wait for it to kind of come to me oh yeah yeah like me in college yeah exactly what are you gonna do same vibe vibe it out are you gonna meet people no lessons just vibes for a long time
Starting point is 01:09:05 it'll happen it'll happen just no energy invested at all it'll work out korean's also a cool language it sounds cool to hear yeah it's cool yeah it does i i now have my wife is korean i live basically in koreatown i have no excuse not to learn korean so she speak Korean fluently? She speaks Korean. Yeah. Fluently, her mom, who grew up in Korea, and dad, who grew up in Korea, would not say she speaks it fluently. But fluent as hell to me. Did you watch it with her? No.
Starting point is 01:09:39 She was asleep. So I'm going to have to rewatch episode one. Yeah. Sounds cool. Is that what they really said? Is that what they really said? was asleep so i'm gonna have to re-watch episode one and then yeah you know that's cool is that what they really said is that what they really said is that what they really said check the translation somebody did uh so fucking annoying wait what did i say it's is there anything yeah like how would you say though yeah contextually am i missing anything? Somebody did tweet that.
Starting point is 01:10:05 They were like, you know, like, this is super annoying. I apologize. But as a fluent Korean speaker, they fucked up the subtitles. Like, you really have to be a fluent Korean speaker to fully appreciate it. Throughout the show, huh? The writing. Yeah, the writing is, like, amazing. But you wouldn't get that from the subtitles.
Starting point is 01:10:22 I mean, that's a typical issue with anything that's getting translated because sometimes it may be someone who's super proficient in a language without fully being able to recreate in words what that equivalent should be in another language. There's also something poetic. I think when books are translated, there's
Starting point is 01:10:40 so much thought that goes into it because you have to capture the poetic construction of the words. Maybe with TV shows, people put that goes into it because you have to capture kind of the poetic construction of the of the words. And maybe, yeah, maybe it's with with TV shows, people put less heart into it or something. Right. Yeah. Or it's just rushed. But yeah, that's it. That's its own art form. Like to be able to translate. Like I remember once I helped translate a Japanese film, but they had me come in to like punch up the diet, like to punch up the translation.
Starting point is 01:11:06 had me come in to like punch up the diet like to punch up the translation so it actually to a younger american person was like an equivalent right rather than like hey get out of here you fuck you bastard you know it's like well nobody's saying that shit right it's like fuck off listen here copper yeah so a couple other like tie-ins to it you can buy the depressing lunchbox set that the prisoners eat i think that is from a later episode i don't think that was the first episode episode two okay you'll see you'll get there but uh in the philippines they installed a life-size giant robot that is looks identical to the one or very similar to the one from the red light green light game in the first episode which is interesting because that is so it's like supposed to stop jaywalkers that that seems like a it's a hell of a message to send i'll just say that for anybody who hasn't seen it right right right wow that's
Starting point is 01:11:57 just a jaywalkers yeah that fucking head spins around and the eyes are like... It's also weird to do that in a country where the president is down to kill people who use drugs on the streets. It's not the best country to be putting that out there as a promotional device. My guess would be that that happened because Duterte saw the... He's like, I like that.
Starting point is 01:12:27 I like that. It was fun. Do that for Jaywalkers. It's taken over TikTok. Like I mentioned, there's people slapping each other in the subway stations game that's getting recreated. And the show only came out two weeks ago. The show only came out two weeks ago. It's so popular right now around the world that Netflix is being sued for all the bandwidth
Starting point is 01:12:48 that is getting used up. It's getting sued by internet service providers basically around in South Korea for one, which is already an issue. Like basically the ISPs are being super heavily taxed in ways that they weren't expecting before streaming became a thing. But it's been a thing now for a while.
Starting point is 01:13:11 I love that it's like, dude, the content's too lit. You're breaking up our servers. That's basically what it is. Info is being transmitted. Yeah. But anyways, it's a real phenomenon. I highly recommend the first episode.
Starting point is 01:13:25 I can tell you that. I can say the same. And I'm like kind of at that crossroads where I'm like, do I leave Her Majesty behind to keep watching it? Because like it's a show where I fucking want to just keep, like I don't want to stop. Like I think I could do it all in one sitting on Sunday. Like I'm just like clear off the calendar.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Time for squid game. Yeah. Uh, but I don't know if my partner is going to be happy with that. Yeah. Maybe I'll just watch it twice. Fuck it. I'd watch the first episode again.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Yeah. Uh, Andrew, such a pleasure having you. Thank you for, for having me. It's so much fun. I love the show and happy to be part of it.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Oh, thank you. Uh, where can people find you and follow you? Yeah, I'm online at Andrew Michonishon m-i-c-h-a-a-n and all this stuff and then my podcast is podcast but outside which you mentioned earlier but if you're not familiar uh we set up a table on the sidewalk and interview strangers as they happen to be walking by it's very unexpected and fun and interesting conversations with different types of people every week on youtube and podcast apps you guys are really good at like getting finding interesting people and just yeah you know
Starting point is 01:14:30 having done it for a few years it's almost self-selecting and that usually the people that tend to sit down are the people that tend to be interesting they got a story yeah and i think we've gotten really good at kind of teasing out what makes them interesting as quick as possible and we're also on tour right now we We're doing a live version of the show, which I think is actually better than... Our live show is really special and fun. The premise is basically me and my podcast co-host Cole Hirsch are in the theater. And then our intern, who's kind of become a third member of the show,
Starting point is 01:14:59 he's like a young, charismatic guy, he goes live on Instagram. And that's projected behind us on a projector at the venue. And he leaves the venue, goes outside and finds random strangers who are like walking home from work or on their way to dinner and convinces them to come be interviewed on the show. So they're just like living their lives. And then all of a sudden they walk into a venue with like 300 people in the audience. And like, we've been watching. So the audience knows their name. So we're all chanting for their name, like Mike mike and then they walk in and they're like what
Starting point is 01:15:27 is this a cult what is happening and so we've had some really fun like in oakland we had these these two young guys who came on and then we're talking to them and we're like they were like in their early 20s and we're like so you guys know each other a long time they're like yeah we've been friends since high school and a woman in the audience goes you guys go to albany high and they're like yeah who's that she been friends since high school. And a woman in the audience goes, did you guys go to Albany High? And they're like, yeah, who's that? She goes, it's Miss Green, your English teacher. So like their English teacher was a fan of our show and she came on stage and we all talked about high school.
Starting point is 01:15:53 It was really cool. So yeah, we got our East Coast run, DC, Philly, New York, and Boston. Some of them are almost sold out, but it's a very fun, exciting show. Even if you're not familiar with our podcast, I would highly recommend coming to that if you're any of those cities that's awesome yeah thanks is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying
Starting point is 01:16:11 yeah i saw a friend uh had a funny tweet yesterday this girl helena fresh hell do you follow her on on twitter she's very funny uh she says i want nepotism to happen to me. That would be more ethical than when it happens regular. When it happens regular. I couldn't agree more. Regular style. Yeah, when it happens regular, I love that.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Also, the other show for 20 day fiance if you like 90 day fiance and stoned funniness it's sophia alexandra and i
Starting point is 01:16:51 talking about our favorite tv show so check that out first tweet i like is from at lol and newie or oh no it's lol and newie uh-huh that's what it is uh and uh mr problems tweeted it's officially hoodieO-L-N-U-E. Uh-huh. That's what it is. And Mr. Problems tweeted, it's officially hoodie stealing season, which is to say grand theft autumn. And as somebody who has had so many fucking hooded sweatshirts stolen from me from romantic partners, it resonates with me.
Starting point is 01:17:21 And I'm still I'm looking at you, Bianca. I know you have my Bape cause collab hooded sweatshirt that shit came from japan and i know it just looks great to you but that shit is very valuable to me please give it back bianca is that why you like is that why you like living with your partner because you don't have to worry about that nah yeah exactly and i'm like my shit's way too big for her. So it's just like, it looks goofy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You asked her to move in after the first date, right? Oh, yeah. I can see the way she's looking at my hoodies.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. We've got to be in the same room. All right, come on. Let's just do this. Let's make it official. And then next one, at CatholicDad420 tweeted, being vaguely ethnic means no matter what type of corner store I go to, the owner treats me like his nephew. And I feel that shit very deep in my bones. I will say this for the amount of like donut stores that were owned by Cambodian immigrants in like L.A. Man, when I was a kid, I would go in there and they would be like, oh, you're Cambodian.
Starting point is 01:18:20 And I'm like, nah, they're like, no, you're Cambodian. I'm like, OK. And then I got free donuts. I'm like, yeah, I'm Cambodian. I'm out. What a beautiful way to grow up Cambodian. Yeah. Positive reinforcement through donuts. Yeah. Let's see. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, a tweet I've been enjoying. Paul Musgrave tweeted, did humans really build the New Yorkork city subway system at one billion dollars per mile in today's costs how could primitive 20th century humans have built 850 miles of track did they have extraterrestrial assistance or did they have some way of not spending a goddamn
Starting point is 01:19:00 billion dollars a mile and then sean o'connor tweeted a sopranos movie released during spooky season uh yeah i'm gonna call them gabagools oh boy can't beat that gonna beat that uh you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episode and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song are we telling people to go check out? You want to check out.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Let's just, you know, I'm feeling, you know, old after that Folgers commercial. So I want to do a track by the Juggernauts. J-U-G-G-A-K-N-O-T-S. This is a Bronx rap group from the 90s that like had like a vinyl that came out. And then, but it was like on like Bobbito's label where like it only came out on vinyl and never hit mainstream.
Starting point is 01:20:01 But this track is called Clear Blue Skies, which is very funny because when you listen to it, for those of us who know The Meters, they're sampling the track Stormy by The Meters for the instrumental. And it just has that golden era, boom bap, New York rap style that I love. So you'll love it too to start your week.
Starting point is 01:20:20 It's Clear Blue Skies by Juggernauts. All right. Well, we are going to send you to go listen to that the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast wherever you listen to your favorite shows that is going to do it for us this morning but we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending we'll talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye. Bye. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.
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