The Daily Zeitgeist - Grandpa Is High AF, Michael Moore = Trump of The Left 9.24.18

Episode Date: September 24, 2018

In episode 238, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Caleb Synan to discuss who will be playing the Super Bowl halftime show, how baby boomers are more likely to smoke weed these days, Michael Cohen flipping on Trump, Rod Rosenstein apparently trying to figure out a way to evoke the 25th Amendment, Trump attacking Christine Blasey Ford for not reporting her assault sooner, NRA memberships going down, Michael Moore's hope to take down Trump with his next film, Noah Cyrus attempting to sell her tears, bloidwatch, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Maroon 5 frontrunner to play Super Bowl halftime show2. Marijuana use is now as common among baby boomers as it is among teens, federal data shows3. Drug Use Across The Generations4. Michael Cohen spoke to Mueller team for hours; asked about Russia, possible collusion, pardon: Sources5. Rosenstein wanted to wear wire on Trump, NYT says6. Trump Attacks Kavanaugh Accuser By Name Amid Negotiations For Hearing7. Member dues plummet, leaving the NRA in the red for second straight year8. Michael Moore hopes his film is 'beginning of the end' for Trump9. Michael Moore wants to take down a president. It’s not the first time.10. DO THESE 10 THINGS, AND TRUMP WILL BE TOAST11. ‘In a take-no-prisoners mode,’ Michael Moore announces one-man, anti-Trump Broadway show12. Michael Moore Accused of Stiffing, Smearing Vendors: ‘All I Would Like Is to Be Paid’13. Inside Michael Moore’s Smear Campaign Against the Man Who Helped Build His Film Festival14. NOAH TEARS15. This May Make You Weep: Miley Cyrus’ Sister Is Selling Her Tears Online For $12,00016. WATCH: Saba - LIFE (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very funny comedian, one of our first guests in this very studio. Welcome back, Caleb Sinan. I'm back. And my doctor mentioned your guys' podcast podcast too. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, it's so weird. Yeah. Oh yeah, because he advised you not to come on for your health. He's like, those guys. Have you heard their coughs? You can hear it in the lungs. Well, we are thrilled to have you here, man. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, we're going to tell our listeners what we're going to be talking about today. We are just going to mention who is being rumored to do the Super Bowl halftime show in Atlanta.

Get ready. Think about all the great Atlanta musicians. It's coming up, guys. We're going to talk baby boomers and their drug use as it compares to other generations. We're going to talk Trump world was falling apart at the end of last week. Just all sorts of shit hitting the fan. We're going to talk Trump world was falling apart at the end of last week, just all sorts of shit hitting the fan. We're going to talk about a couple stories there. The NRA's business model is not good. Not only is it evil as fuck, but it's not really sustainable as a business model. We're going to talk about Michael Moore and how he is solving democracy for us. And we're

going to talk about Miley Cyrus's Little Sisters Tears. And of course, we're going to do Bloid Watch. But first, Caleb, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh, well, this was as soon as I remembered that I was going to be asked that, I checked, and it was, can you use expired eye drops? Oh, wow. I always Google when things go bad, because everything in my apartment has gone bad. You just smell them, right? Yeah.

But yeah, I was like, eye drops can't go bad. Right. I think they just become less potent, right? That's usually the rule of thumb. They don't become poison. I don't know what's in it. Yeah, they don't. You're like, oh, I used rotten, eye drops can't go bad. Right. I think they just become less potent, right? That's usually the rule of thumb. They don't become poison. I don't know what's in it. Yeah, they don't. You're like, ah, I used rotten eye drops.

Yeah, but I always Google, how bad is this to use? And this thing said, never use any expired medication. God. But I used it. All right, big pharma. That's fine. Yeah. Honey doesn't go bad.

You got a little, what was that, crust in your eyes? I mean, my eyes are great now. It reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons where you get the laser surgery. Where his eyes are so crust over. And they're like, Mr. Simpson, you need your eye drops or your eyes will crust over. And he's like, there you go with the add-ons. And his eyes just go and immediately crust over. What is something you think is overrated?

Oh, I actually wrote that down too. Nostalgia. Nostalgia, overrated. Everybody's getting into nostalgia everything's nostalgia now the stranger things right uh everything's got that neon 80 like the 80s were good where this shit i don't think any nostalgia is good i don't think the 90s were good or the 80s there's no the 90s were sick were they sick oh man i was fucking i mean i was coming of age do i have to sing my aka again because yeah uh looney's

yeah i think i don't know they rolled during like when you were in it did you like no oh yeah my parents were together you know what i mean uh there was no like wi-fi there was no like i wasn't aware of i sucked i wasn't aware of late stage capitalism you know what i mean like it's very insulated time for me mentally it really is though, when I will leave my phone somewhere and go wait in a line or something. Like, that doesn't happen a lot. But if I, like, have downtime and I don't have my phone at hand, it's like a, wow, I haven't felt this boredom. Yeah, in a minute. And, like, it reminds me of, like, being in high school.

Yeah. Like, it really does. It's crazy. I remember, like, a week into school, very distinctly having the thought, this is wearing pretty thin. If this is what life is, week after week of this, I can't do it. I remember being a very depressed little kid. Not depressed, just like, man, if this is what everyone's going through, I get why people are sad. And now we have Wi-Fi. You're a young man. You weren't even alive for the 80s, right?

This is my 21st birthday. I'm going to try alcohol right after this podcast. I'm going to try it. You're looking at that beer real excited. I open this. I bet it's going to taste like soda. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated.

I wrote that down, too. Let me see. Money. Wow. Thank God. I heard my whole life that someone's saying it wasn't that great and that it doesn't make you happy i heard all these like anti-money rumors yeah right uh by big poor whoever's pushing it and i couldn't disagree more this year i really was like man

it's pretty good. You have a good year? I would say a less bad one and made a big difference. There you go. I think it's made up by rich people who are still sad, but they don't realize how much sadder they'd be without money. One of my friends drives for lifts and he said he was driving

this rich guy around. The rich guy goes, you know, money's not really the thing. It's like uh everyone if you ask them how much money they need to be happy they always say twice as much as they're making so right everybody just and and the guy was like yeah but you're rich like right there is an amount that makes you doably like you need to get to where you're not constantly worried yeah yeah so Yeah. So I do think that. I do think that money's pretty good. Yeah. It's good enough once you get enough to not die. Yeah, sadly.

You need that amount. Well, what's funny, too, is in America, we have that problem, right, where money determines so many other things that it doesn't for people in other places, where your health, your education, or access to those things. And you go to places where those things are given, and people are like, even though they're not making buku bucks, you can tell they're like, oh, damn, look at you, walking around with a smile on your face.

We carry a lot of stress connected to things like our insurance or education. Well, rich people will give you the worst advice. Like you ever, like those listicles and stuff, or you listen to them in an interview, and they're like, no, it's not about money. It's about traveling with your family family and i'm like that's expensive as well right yeah having kids and going anywhere having the option to stay home with your kids right is crazy expensive i yeah i think that people are really uh being naive when they

i mean i i have heard that there is a plateau at which getting more money doesn't make you any happier? Like, I think... Oh, is it like a Malcolm Gladwell book? I think I heard it a long time ago. No, I don't think it's a Malcolm Gladwell book. Oh, you're talking about parents at a certain level, like, their kids' happiness,

like, they start to diverge a bit even though they have a lot of money or a lot of access to wealth. I think those people are lying. I feel like polls forget about lies. Right. Like, assuming everyone's truthful. Because, you know, you ever talk to people, they have a TV show, and they go, oh, that lies. Right. Like, assuming everyone's truthful. Because, you know, you ever talk to people, they have a TV show, and they go, ooh, that's

got to be great. And they go, no. And then they come up with something to complain about just so they don't sound like a dick. Right. And I think rich people are like, no. And I think they're lying. Yeah, you'd be like, fuck, hell yeah, this shit is dope. I think they lied to get the money, and I think they're lying to keep it by saying it's

not that great. Because if anyone told the truth about how great it is to be rich, it would be a revolution immediately. Right. Yeah, and we're still over here pointing fingers left and right and being like, oh, it's the left or the right. And I'm like, no, what about up there? Look up. They're duping us with our direct TV that we think we have everything now. I think Jerry Seinfeld is the only rich person who's honest about... I saw him in an interview

one time, and they were like, what do you do with your family? He goes, I'm a billionaire. We go on amazing vacations. Vacations, you can't fathom how great they are. There's not even a vocabulary developed to describe what I am. You haven't even heard of the islands we go to, rich people.

Right. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? I was thinking about it. I think it's all of them. Anything that people ask you like big foot, anything to believe in, like, is that? I don't think any of it's real. Anything that you can believe in. Anything you can put, oh boy, I hope that's true.

Anything you hope is true, not true. Right. I don't think it's true. Like money is great? No, that's for sure. Right. That true, not true. Right. I don't think it's true. Like money is great? No, that's for sure true. Right. That's not a myth. That is a law.

But most people hope that that's not true because most people aren't rich. Because you hope. You hope. Ooh, you know what I hope makes you happy is your loved one. And that's not going to make you happy. Right. Just being a workaday Joe. Loved ones cause nothing but heartbreak.

Yeah. No, it's true. My mom going to fix my broken leg? Right. Don't think so. Money will. Yeah. Anytime I get excited about a conspiracy theory like, ooh, the new JFK documents, maybe those

will be juicy. Not juicy. Right. Boring. Those documents were boring as hell. I mean, the juice will never come out, though. No. Like on stuff like that.

Yeah. Anytime you're like, boy, I hope. Never. Never is the thing. Maybe when we're like on our deathbeds, will there be those weird truths that actually come out? And you're like, wow. Like people who believe in dinosaurs.

It's like, come on. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. Really? Yeah. Oh, they're giant lizards. You heard of intelligent design? Right.

Come on. Come on, asshole. That's too good to be true. Tell me another one. Too good to be true. That is like, we just get to a baseline so quickly that something like dinosaurs, which is the coolest thing in the world, we're just like, yeah, okay, that's one thing. And now let's make up some fictional beast that doesn't actually exist, like the Loch Ness Monster.

What do they do? I went to Lutheran and Catholic school my whole life. I'm trying to remember what they said dinosaurs were back then. Because I remember they were more interesting, super science denial takes on dinosaurs. They were actually right after Adam and Eve, or something like that.

If we had the ability to forget about dinosaurs and sharks and just relearn about them as adults, I feel like there would be fewer bullshit conspiracies. The magic of a dinosaur. Oh, there's one more myth that I wrote down because I'm from the South. We were talking about this earlier.

Every movie set in the South, no matter what the time period is, they all have the exact same accent and it's everyone. And I'm from the like ruralest part of the South. Right. The southernest deep South you can get. And everybody's like, whoa. And eight people alive talk like part of the South. Right. The southernest deep South you can get. And everybody's like, whoa. And eight people alive talk like that. Counselor. Right.

Everyone's fanning themselves. That is the most inaccurate. You have air conditioning in the South, right? We do. We have air conditioning. There are people with Southern accents, but it's not anywhere close to everybody. Right. It's absurd.

My favorite thing, I'm thinking of that, is someone, I made a joke of like that uh a time to kill is the sweatiest movie of all time it is so everybody's just listening you're like damn y'all gotta got ac in there it's not 1910 yeah right exactly what are you talking about it's just that image we have of like the south is just sweaty that's a good point they didn't have ac in the corporate everybody's Everybody's fucking shirts are like half opened up. Like the trial of the century. All the white guilt is just like, ugh. Ugh.

What a movie, though. Great movie. Now imagine she's white. Now you're from the great state of Georgia where our national championship is going to be happening this year, the Super Bowl. And it has leaked who they're strongly considering to be the musical act to play the halftime show.

So wait, is this confirmed or this is a leak that's like there's a short list? I think this is a short list, but there's only one name on the short list. And they're usually not very, like usually once the rumor starts, like that's who it is unless jay-z says no right uh so now think about all the great musicians you got the dungeon fan you got outcast and goody mob and migos and ludicrous and jermaine dupree tlcti little john monica sierra just such a proud indigo girls history but oneigo girls. But one name, of course, is floating to the top of your head, and that

is, of course, Maroon 5. John Mayer? Oh! Wait, what? Not even John Mayer. Maroon 5. What's especially upsetting about this is these other guys that are in Maroon 5 that aren't Adam Levine have got to be like, I can't believe this gravy train is still going. None of us do

shit. Wait, is Maroon 5 from Atlanta? No. No. They're from LA. Yeah, right? Because I know the, I think I used to hang out with Adam's cousin, who's definitely an Angeleno. Yeah, bro.

Whoa. They're just going straight up. What the? I think it's just Roger Goodell just gets to choose based on, he's like, oh, that's a snappy hit. Who are they? Let's bring them in i mean i think it just shows you who like as people get older who that target demographic

is so these are people who like were peaking in 2002 my dad thinks they're the newest band like he'll be like that that is current right right have you heard the song they just came out right is taking control of me look i know you kids you kids, you got your moves like Jagger, but come on, let's just settle it down for a second. All right, speaking of our parents, baby boomers are now just as likely to smoke weed as teens. Of course they are. I think they always were,

and now they're just telling the truth in those surveys. Right, as the stigma lessens over time. Yeah. It's odd because, yeah, they're showing that 50 and 60 somethings just as likely as 12 to 17 year olds 12 to 17 yeah i mean those are prime weed smoking years i don't know at least in california now i wasn't smoking weed at 12 what are you taking the edge off of at 12 right uh puberty you know i mean i wasn't really taking... The first time I smoked weed, it wasn't take the edge off shit.

It was more like, what's a new brain thing I can... Like, what's a new experience? Yeah, I got fucked up and not really fucked up, but purely out of boredom. It was just like, yeah, whoa. I just hyperventilated a little bit

and now I feel different. Here, let me hold my neck. I actually kind of want to talk to a high 12-year-old and see, like, what are their thoughts? Very boring. I'm sure you could freak the shit out of a high 12-year-old. Here, let me hold my neck I actually kind of want to talk to a high 12 year old and see like what are their thoughts I'm sure you could freak the shit out of a high 12 year old Oh yeah! Let me tell you the truth, young man

And they're like, what? Put all kinds of weird shit in their head It's interesting, if you go to drugabuse.com they have all these charts of just like the average age and percentage of drug use between the different generations. They break it up between millennials, Gen X, baby boomers, and then the greatest generation.

And we're all kind of clustered together with alcohol. It goes up to 80 around your 21st birthday. 80% of people use it. 80% of people use it. But marijuana, cocaine, heroin, stimulants, sedatives, tranquilizers, hallucinogens, and psychotherapeutics, baby boomers are all like orders of magnitude higher than anybody else. It's just like that time was a wild time. If you map wealth on that same curve too, you buy the same thing because you ain't fucking 16 and a half cocaine money. Right. Yeah. By the same thing because you ain't fucking 16 and a half cocaine money.

Right. You know what I mean? You're a fucking you're a 60 year old wheeler dealer business person or a young person in Hollywood. I mean why don't that's an issue I want to hear.

Why is cocaine so overpriced? I think it is clearly like the most expensive one isn't it? It's pretty expensive. Of all the drugs? Yeah. Maybe.

Yeah. Like literally kilogram for kilogram for sure. Let's get those prices down. And like per like come on now. Come on Ecuador drugs? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, like literally kilogram for kilogram for sure. Let's get those prices down. Come on now. Come on, Ecuador. Come on, Bolivia. I feel like it's just like strong.

A deal on some base. Well, it's just a total black market. The drug trade is violent. You also need massive amounts of coca leaves to even produce just a little bit of base for cocaine. And then you got to step on it. You know what I mean? Was it cheaper like in the 1800s when it was legal? I think anything like as it becomes...

Yeah. Like as something becomes prohibited and prohibition happens, then it turns into the black market where things have crazy value because it's illegal and there's more risk involved. Yeah. But I think it's probably better that cocaine is not just rampantly available yeah i mean the market determines how much something costs and people who like cocaine apparently really like it it's got like a very strong niche market um yeah i'm surprised i've heard it's people gets good reviews yeah i'm sure a lot of podcasts are started off cocaine benders oh yeah dude you know we could fucking do a fucking show dude where we're just

fucking jack like you fucking know facts and shit and i i fucking worked in politics dude like we can fucking say shit and people will fucking like listen dog cocaine in particular so the highest it goes up like millennials peak at like age 20 where about like six seven percent of them are using cocaine baby boomers peaked at around the same age at like 23 percent like 23 percent of them were using cocaine that's yeah the 80s because they were coming you know the 80s were no i think it was the 70s oh shit 60s and 70s that was my i wonder if cocaine is different now like because weed is better now and it's like more strong i wonder if coke is cocaine the same as weed is better now, and it's more strong. I wonder if cocaine is the same as it was in the 70s, or is it the same?

I think basically. Probably. I mean, maybe they've been able to get more purity, but I'd imagine it's around the same level. Because they always talk about the purity of cocaine, how it's gone down over time. But I don't know. That's just something my friends talk about. And the medical industrial complex is not studying and strengthening cocaine, whereas weed

is cancer medicine. Yeah, they're doing a lot of research in that. What's funny, though, too, in the same study about it, they said the oldest age group, though, also saw a steep increase. So people 65 and older are now using more, they're more monthly users of marijuana in that age bracket. And I think as people realize that there are actual uses for it medicinally that like an older person with any kind of ailment might be like you should try this for your pain maybe yeah it's probably should be a clue that no one is lobbying for medical cocaine ever like it's only one drug that people are like it could be medical right right yeah there's nothing else that really has a... Yeah, and it's funny too because

when we always, the conversations around legalization are always like, what about the effects on the youth? Right. And it's like, what about the kids or whatever? And like, that seems pretty steady where it's like, what about the elders? Right, yeah. These are the ones who are, you know, like as this article in the Washington Post says, talk to your grandparents about marijuana

before somebody else does. Yeah. Did you know Freud, I think people know that he did cocaine, but it really did fuel the invention of psychotherapy and the whole idea of a talk therapy, which is just so perfect. If you've ever been around people on cocaine, they're just nonstop love talking about themselves. And he was heavily using cocaine like prescribing it to himself uh because he thought it helped with his social anxiety but was heavily

using cocaine when he invented like now i feel much better after i've talked for like eight hours in a row to somebody so like it really is just cocaine invented that. Cocaine is the reason that Coca-Cola is so popular because, you know, there were like a thousand different sodas during that time period. Did Pepsi ever have Coke in it? No. Pepsi only came around in the 60s, 70s. Coca-Cola lost all of its cocaine in the early 20th century. Damn. If you got that pre-band cola, let me know.

And yeah, thanks to cocaine, we have the XFL. There's many things that have come out of it. So it's not just those things. Just the world wrestling. My favorite is that Eddie Griffin's joke about Alexander Graham Bell used cocaine. He's like, of course he did. And he's like, that's the most coked up idea

I've ever heard where he's like, hey, I wish I could talk to somebody that ain't even here. Like, just pick this up and I'm talking to him. What a great fit. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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He snores whilst awake. He's an elder, you know, so let's reserve our judgments for Jack later on. So a lot going down at the end of last week in the world of our president, our fearless leader, President Donald Trump. Michael Cohen has flipped, which I thought we already knew that, but he has just been voluntarily just giving it up to Mueller. Yeah, basically giving up all. I mean, here's the thing. Everyone was assuming when he took the plea deal that they're like, okay, maybe this means there will be cooperation, but we didn't know. And, yeah, I think the assumption was obviously he wouldn't get a plea deal

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And then, so the thing is, I know McClatchy or someone was reporting that Mueller did have evidence that Cohen was actually in Prague. And if that is true, and he's talking to Mueller about that too, and there's any even a shred of truth to what the allegations are in the Steele dossier, that would mean that he would probably be a party to conversations about how to make deniable payments to Russian actors for the hacking. So I don't know. Yeah, we'll see. We live in a fantasy world until shit actually happens. Right. And there's also weird stuff with Dowd. They think that Dowd was offering to pay for Manafort's legal fees as like a way of trying

to keep people away from facts. Yeah. Right. Because they were like being, they were hard pressed for money. We all know Paul Manafort was broke daddy. Right. And Rick Gates also, like no one in this entire investigation has the fucking wallet for all

the legal fees. Right. And yeah, John Dowd was sort of being like, hey, can we get some money, man? Can we funnel some money out of the White House defense fund? Yeah. And then he was even like, when that failed, because the ethics people were like, absolutely not. What the fuck?

What do you think this is? Then he was like, hey, man, like basically had a hat out and was like, maybe we can put 25K together real quick to give to Manafort immediately because apparently they urgently need it. And then when that thing got shut down, Rick Gates pled guilty the next day. Yeah. So clearly they knew they cannot afford to have these people give any kind of information that would begin connecting dots to the point where, yeah, we're even seeing John Dowd go

on the extra mile and do a little Kickstarter. Why wouldn't Trump do it? He's a billionaire. He should just pay his own money. Oh, wait, he's not a billionaire and he's cheap as fuck. Treason is so expensive. I know. I thought it would be so much cheaper.

Well, you know. Yeah, he just thought, just very easy, just make some Venmo payments and put a couple emojis that have nothing to do with hacking. And you're good. You're in the clear. I'll be interested to see how Trump's base reacts to the revelations around his tax documents. Because I do think that he's going to be much less wealthy than than they think dude what would be the amount that would be totally emperors naked like the clothes have been stripped we see you and your mushroom penis i don't know like under 100 million

probably i like the idea that he's like he's only worth like three million like it would be amazing. Like he's so bad at his money. And I honestly, I can already see the people making arguments where they go, being a billionaire is not about how much money you have. Right. Like saying shit where you're just like, how could this? It's like he lied about even having it. Yeah. Yeah.

But it costs money to have money. Yeah. You know what? It's more about like what you're worth. Right. Like they're those. Yeah. And on paper, you ain't worth shit.

They will bend time and space to make it Oh 100 yeah that's true he's not really good it's like a mental billionaire yeah oh yeah very much yeah like a power of now kind of dude is like I know this secret not any Robin said some shit like that yeah so Rosenstein is also back in the news with his weak, weak chin. He might have the weakest chin of all. It would be impossible to uppercut him. Yeah. Your hand would just slide up.

Somehow, yeah. It's like a shark snout. So at the time that we're recording this, the New York Times is reporting that Rosenstein offered to wear a wire to record Trump to help invoke the 25th Amendment. He didn't go through with it, but he was basically hoping to use the evidence to, I think they said, convince Pence and Sessions to invoke the 25th Amendment. Like, gather evidence that this dude is just... They act like they don't work with him every day. They wouldn't know that shit anyway. He's like, yo, have you heard what he said?

It's like, I'm here. What do you mean? But maybe they were just like, nah, nah, nah, he's good. And he was like, what? I just sat in a meeting with him where he didn't seem to know why we have a defense department. He used Star Wars toys to explain the Space Force. But now, so he came out at the end of last week and basically said that, you know, nothing, none of this is true. All of my dealings with the president have made it clear that we don't

need the 25th Amendment. And then other people said that he only brought that up sarcastically. So we were thinking maybe this is being floated by Trump people in order to give them a justification to fire Rosenstein. Yeah. I mean, I think there are so many ways to cut this up and look at it. I mean, on one hand, you know that this idea came out of Rod Rosenstein writing that memo that ultimately had Comey fired and that threw him for a loop. And then he was like, oh, I didn't realize that was going to happen. But then you don't know if he was totally ignorant that that would be the case.

But also, you know that as we're talking right now, Michael Cohen has been talking to Robert Mueller. He has a lot of information. It seems like Paul Manafort probably has a lot of information that we're starting to see like the finisher moves that Trump is trying to use now. And he really needs a pretext to fire Rod Rosenstein if he's going to kneecap Mueller. Right. So I think it's fair to assume that Trump is going to maybe do some crazy shit to try and derail it in some way, because everybody who knows where the bodies are buried are talking to Mueller for immunity or just because. Like Allen Weisselberg, the guy who's the CFO who people say is the real like the dude who knows the money.

Yeah, he knows how the money moves. and has like cardi b he's been the cfo of the trump organization since the 70s so it's like yeah i mean there's another theory of super producer nick stump might be positing that maybe this is someone in doj trying to provoke a rash response from trump to create a constitutional crisis, and then it would be clearer to get rid of Trump? I don't know. There's so many ways to look at it, because even when you look at the, we are the White House resistance anonymous op-ed, that could have been seen as, I believe that there are people doing whatever they can to try and keep him from indulging his worst instincts. But you could also see that as, you know, furthering the narrative that there is this deep state conspiracy against Trump. And this Rosenstein thing could also serve that narrative

too, where it's like, I mean, look at these guys. These guys are wearing wires trying to set me up. I mean, the game is rigged. So I don't know. They're the people that Trump picked. Right. Not the deep state. That's his staff. Yeah, yeah, no, exactly. But I mean, but those are, but that's the, if you are a Fox News acolyte and that's all you're consuming, then that helps your confirmation bias just that much more. Right. But that there was talk that they might be declassifying just like everything. Right. And right. A ton of documents were talking about on last week. Yeah. That would have exposed intel gathering methods or sources.

And now Trump is backing away from that. Yeah. Because a bunch of allies were like, Hey motherfucker, that's like, there's shit in there that we also need. Like this wouldn't just affect the U S this infects many intelligence communities and just, just, this is reckless. But that was, I guess, a previous possible attempt to blow this up. So that was another indicator that we had last week that maybe he's just trying to do drastic things. And would have been desperate because, like we were saying, it was reeking of the memo gate thing when it was the memo was supposed to absolve him of all guilt and show that Carter Page actually wasn't a Russian asset. Spoiler alert, they've been watching him for years. But like, yeah, I think, right, like we're saying, he's just thrashing now.

Yeah. And Caleb, you bring up a good point that I feel like conservatives never want to acknowledge when they're putting together all these vast conspiracies is these are all people hired by Trump who are conservatives themselves. Who agree with what he wants to do. Yeah. Who campaigned with him. And like Jeff Sessions is not the swamp.

That's his. Yeah, that's him at the very least having some modicum of respect for the law. You know, not everybody's following it like us. And I'm sure there's people who are like, man, fuck Jeff Sessions. And it's like they don't know that. Like, you don't know how it works. They don't know that he gave him that job. Well, yeah.

And I think it's – again, it's just – it all depends on whatever narrative at that time is going to help obscure the president's guilt. And they're trying basically everything but the kitchen sink attack here. Yeah. basically in everything but the kitchen sink attack here. Yeah. And I think Trump's one true genius gift is knowing how to basically be like a middle school mean girl, like a messy bitch who knows how to get drama going around them just nonstop. And then he knows how to play that in the media. That's what he's good at.

So he knows how to just create headlines that are going to at least play to his base and make his base think what he wants them to think. At the end of last week, when we're recording this, Trump also started attacking Christine Blasey Ford's credibility, saying like, why didn't she call the FBI 33 years ago when this supposedly happened, which is a strange thing. And why didn't she tell her loving parents? Because he just doesn't want to even begin to empathize with victims of sexual assault. Well, he can't live in a world where people with allegations of sexual assault can be

believed. Right. Because then that means he would be on the chop. He just can't operate in that dimension of reality. Right. It's like, I don't know. I mean, they should have said something. I mean, look at all the people now who are coming out the woodwork to accuse me.

Right. You know, it's the same shit. So, yeah. I mean, at least Susan Collins showed some backbone and was like, I was appalled by the president's tweet. Oh, she said that? But I doubt that's going to make her a no vote suddenly. Even without all the awful stuff,

I don't like that the president tweets this many questions. Right. Questions with answers will be like, how come, what about the Democrats? Right, right. Well, there's answers to that. What about, why didn't this? And it's like, you should know more things.

Well, yeah. You should be like, stop a world leader with this many question marks. It's just absurd. Well, yeah. Well, it's a rhetorical defense of just deflecting and by using whataboutisms. How about them? Oh, really? But this other thing, look over there.

Look over there. Look over here. And as we're recording this, and I'm sure more has been revealed since this, but as we're recording it, Look over there. Look over here. because, again, it's a game. You got to win the negotiation. And also she was asking not to have to testify first, and they are saying no. The accuser will be heard first, and then the accused will get to defend himself. So that is where we stand now. But, again, this is going to continue to evolve,

and by the time you hear it, it might be different. It's crazy to me, the weird defenses you hear. Conservatives love Thomas Jefferson, and if you bring up that he was a terrible guy with bone slaves and a sex slave. Well, yeah, Sally Hemings.

But I've actually heard conservatives go, that was more of a romantic thing, and I'll be like, oh, so you know what happened back then. Right. Yeah. You're defending this. Like, there's not even the pre-DNA and everything. She was his slave. Yeah.

And they go, there's no way to know what happened when Brett Kavanaugh was a teenager. But I know for sure that they loved each other. Right. The most absurd, like, bending over backwards to defend their team. And you can't blame someone for something they did when they're 17 if they're a rich white kid. And you can't blame someone for something they did in the 1700s. Right, exactly. But George H.W. Bush flew a plane when he was 16. It's like, well, he flew his flying planes. Right. And also they are much more likely to argue that, you know, black youths should be prosecuted as adults than non-conservatives.

Also, like some crazy shit that they've trotted out is there was a theory, somebody who's defending Kavanaugh trotted out that it was someone who looks like him. And they then showed a picture of someone. Doxed him. Full on doxed him. Basically was like, see, this person could be the rapist. Yeah. And like said their name and showed their picture.

And it was also like, but this is a theory. Right. You're like, what the fuck are you doing? It was Ed Whelan. Yeah. And then he had,

and then Fox, they perpetuated that dumb shit. And they're like, maybe it could be, that's where they're at now with a doppelganger theory about how to defend Brett Kavanaugh. Yeah. But then this guy, Ed Whelan, had to walk it back. And he's like, I didn't consult with the White House or anything.

I just did that on my own. But it's like he's been very involved in this process with Kavanaugh, too. So who knows? Although nobody thought he was consulting with the White House. But now that he said that, it makes me think that maybe. Well, a lot of people figured because it was like him and he works closely with one of the guys from the Federalist Society who even put Kavanaugh's name up.

So it just sort of reeked of like, it was very easy to see a connection where they're like, hey, why don't you trot out this one? Let's see if this works. And it didn't. Just you got to think about like like if i were like consulting for the whole conservative movement i'd be like you guys know that a hundred years from now is going to happen and you're gonna have to deal with what you did like not a hundred

years though right but i'm like yeah i know it'll be like your kids and shit but like fuck it's gonna be you see the earth i'm leaving for that to deal with that right right you can't just uh you know fuck all this shit up and then hope that it's gonna be... You see the earth I'm leaving for that? You gotta deal with that. Right, right. You can't just, you know, fuck all this shit up and then hope that it's gonna be fine. I think you can see from everything, from the policy and legislation that a lot of these people push, it's very short-sighted. And there's no endgame in sight for these people. It's just like, maximum money,

maximum power now at the cost of everything else. But even just, if you love your team so much, shouldn't you care what future conservatives have to deal with? Like, I know what they did back in the 2018. Yeah, I don't think so. But hear me out. I don't think their thinking is that complex.

The first thing they have to keep. I feel bad for conservatives. They just need to keep liberals out of power. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the main thing. Well, I mean, after this, if Brett Kavanaugh is actually confirmed,

you would hope that the Democrats really lean into this idea that the GOP could give a fuck about you as a woman if you were a woman. This is clear from everything they've done that there is no interest in either believing a victim of sexual assault or about reproductive health and things like that. I can't see how conservatives could then go and be like, oh, yeah, we care after this. But again, there are people who, again, we're so divided and we're so – the partisanship is so pronounced and extreme that it won't matter to some people because at the end of the day it could be a single issue or race or whatever that keeps you in that corner. Well, one thing conservatives do care about is money. And the NRA is leaking.

Oh, my God. They're leaking money like MC Hammer, as you wrote, Miles. Thank you. So their business model apparently is unsustainable. Like they spent too much to get Trump into office. They spent way too much money. They overspent on getting Trump into office. And, you know, for the first time, they're seeing back to back like falling revenue.

And, you know, for the first time, they're seeing back to back like falling revenue. Now, there was a report that like the subscriptions to magazines are up and they say that can also be an indicator of membership. But Open Secrets got like a hold of this third party like audit of the NRA's finances. And it does not like look good. And yet they've just been plummeting income from dues. And also the fact that like there was a gun owner's insurance was taken away. I forget which company it was. Basically, a lot of their lifelines are evaporating. And ever since, obviously, Parkland and the huge sentiment grows more and more for increased gun control.

And they've just sort of morphed into this right-wing news, extreme right news outlet that people have described as a mix of Breitbart and Infowars, which basically is just using fear-based tactics to try and whip people into being like, hey, man, they're going to take the guns away and then who knows what. Yeah. No, it used to be just a fairly straightforward lobbying association. And now it's basically, yeah, it's its own media arm. And that's a symptom of them just getting more straightforward lobbying association. And now it's basically, yeah, it's its own media arm. And that's a symptom of them just getting more and more desperate. Yeah. I'm sure it didn't help them that they spent all this money to get Trump into office. And then once he got into office, people stopped buying guns because so much-

Yeah, they're like, oh, great, he's in office. Yeah. So much of their gun buying was based on the fact that Obama was going to stage a coup, stay in office after into a third term and come and take everyone's guns. I wonder if the NRA ever considered donating to Obama to be like, if he gets another term, he's going to sell a lot of guns. This whole he's taking your guns thing is great. This is great for business. Yeah, there's been a real cooling off with gun sales since Trump came in. There's actually a rumor that Alex Jones voted for Obama because he basically knew what you were just saying, the NRA, should have learned that Obama was good for business. I mean, also, I think it didn't help that there was all these Russia connections, too, recently with the NRA. So they've just been having a rough year.

How hard is it to just not deal with Russia? Are they that fun? Is it that great of a place? I think they got deep pockets. And you know, they send those pretty redhead girls over. Who they swear isn't an asset. Isn't it like not great and cold and shitty there?

Like, I don't understand how, it's like this many people are like, oh yeah, I guess I was there. Who's going, why are you going? Oh shit, I did go understand how it's like this many people are like, oh, yeah, I guess I was there. Who's going? Why are you going? Oh, shit. I did go to Russia that year. Wait, Russia?

Oh, wait. Okay. I thought you said Prussia because that doesn't exist. Yeah, I was in Russia. What is so appealing? It's not a great vacation spot. It's not. You never hear it pop up in songs like I was hanging out in Russia.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, his movie, his sort of sequel to Fahrenheit 9.11, which, as we all remember, took down the Bush administration, we all remember, took down the Bush administration, is this documentary, which he plans and claims is going to take down the Trump administration. So our writer, J.M. McNabb, makes a pretty good argument that Michael Moore is the left's Donald Trump in the sense that he is just fear-based, fear-mongering millionaire who uses a baseball cap to pretend like he's working class and just makes completely fucking outrageous claims in the media. And he is literally claiming like, I think this is going to be the death blow

to the Trump administration. Oh yeah, movie. Yeah. Not the Mueller investigation? claiming like i think this is going to be the death blow to the trump oh yeah movie yeah not not the muller investigation no no no not that people will see this movie and they will have an awakening yeah okay i mean the poster for fahrenheit 11 9 is trump the white house and a fucking mushroom cloud like that no that's his dick oh yeah right oh no it's a mushroom yeah it is a mushroom same shape i was sure i didn't know bright orange uh but bright orange yeah and i don't know he's been his heart's in the good place you know like he i know that he's always trying to bring people's attention to things that people need to be paying attention to

but the way he goes about it sometimes he can misrepresent the truth at times. But then other times, like you're saying, when he was puffing his chest out, being like, this is going to bring Bush down. And there's no evidence. Didn't his approval rating go up after? Yes, his approval rating. So he released the movie before the 2004 election and was like, this is going to bring him down. He's like, rest in peace, motherfucker.

It was a huge hit. The movie was a big hit. And then Bush got reelected. And his approval rating hit an all-time high in the year after Fahrenheit 9-11 was released. And think about it. The thing he chose to attack Bush on was 9-11. Right. The one thing that we remember as the strength of Bush is 9-11.

But he, you know, like that didn't even like dent his legacy. Yeah, he won by more after that. Right. But Michael Moore still claims that like, well, that was the beginning of the end for the Bush administration. Because when you look at his approval rating. Well, you only get two terms. That was the beginning of his final rating. Well, you only get two terms. That was the beginning of his final term.

But he claims that, like, you can see that his approval rating started to go down when Fahrenheit 9-11 came out, and it's just not true at all. Well, no Bush supporter went and saw the movie. Like, I don't know what he thinks. It's like, no Trump supporter's going to watch this. All of his movies. What, he did the healthcare movie, the gun movie, the Bush movie, the capitalism movie. And then he did the Trump movie before?

Trump won. That Trump plan thing. It's like, dude, none of your shit works. I like the movies, but you do not bring anything down. It's just masturbatory material for liberals who want to live in a world where like, yeah, that'll get him. We're going to get capitalism. Oh, yeah, we got capitalism's ratings went down after I, like'll get him. We're going to get capitalism. Oh, yeah, we got... Capitalism's ratings went down after I... Come on.

And documentary films are underrated in terms of lying. Like, they lie like a motherfucker. Well, yeah, that's the one thing. Yeah, the way you edit things can definitely affect our perception of the narrative that they're presenting. Yeah, I don't think Bush actually gave the camera the finger. I think Michael Moore. How dare you? Yeah, when he said, now actually gave the camera the finger. I think Michael Moore. Yeah. How dare you?

Yeah, when he said, now watch this drive. That was a deep fake. Right. Well, there's documentaries about how the Earth's flat. Anyone can make a documentary. Yeah. It doesn't mean, you know. Well, have you seen that one, though?

That one's actually pretty convincing. About the Earth being flat. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty, I mean, it looks flat. I mean, have you seen the North Pole? Have you seen the North Pole? No, answer me, kid. No, bro. Look, it would be a guy up in a plane like, hmm? And you're like, it looks flat. I mean, have you seen the North Pole? Have you seen the North Pole? No, answer me, kid. No, bro.

There'll be a guy up in a plane like, hmm? And you're like, that's not. No, it'll erase your memory. And then you'll, I think, isn't that the thing? That there's a magnetic field that will erase your memory even if you get to the ice wall that they say is there? Oh, the ice wall, yeah. It's an amazing amount of work.

Then they'll show you an ice wall and be like, see? And it's like, I know there are walls of ice. We know that. That's not the ice. This is just a wall with a bunch of vanilla ice posters on it. Yeah, this is the ice wall. Clearly Game of Thrones. Miley Cyrus' little sister is apparently something that I know exists now.

Yeah. So she was dating, who's that dude who has teeth like he still sucks his thumb? Lil Xan? Lil Xan. Yeah yeah so she was dating him diego and still dating him maybe i don't know i don't know i don't even care anymore no they broke up uh according to a super producer on a hosnia lozan let me just search lozan noah cyrus no you got oh yeah no oh so this is the deal. She's got like a whole merch thing she was doing with like pizza slime, I guess. And there was like sweats that say like I'm like crying or sad or whatever. And she bottled her tears up. It's a result of her breakable little Xan.

And it was so bad that she bottled her tears. The wild thing is, so when you look on the website, they're selling for a vial of tears, and I'll tell you the amount in a second. It says, this is approximately 12 tears made by Noah Cyrus as a result of sadness. Human digestion of these tears is not suggested

because tears are generally pretty salty, and that would just be super fucking weird if you drank someone else's tears. It would be. You know what the cost is? $12,000. Wait. For a vial you drank someone else's tears. It would be. You know what the cost is? Fuck. $12,000. Wait. For a vial of this person's fucking tears.

$12,000 per vial? Are people buying? I think there's only one vial, maybe. Oh, okay. Got it. Well, then, in that case. In that case. I mean, yeah.

But if there are 12 tears, that means $1,000 for these teardrop tears? Yeah. $1,000 per tear. I mean, I don't even know. I mean, it's a cool PR move. Look, I mean, we're talking about you now. Yeah, yeah. And I didn't know who the fuck you were at all.

And I'm still, she does very much look like Miley Cyrus. I think someone's going to do it. That's expensive. But I mean, there's someone out there who's like. Well, yeah, it's like a flash sale where it's only available for like a 48 hours yeah it's something absurd uh but yeah you can get and it's a in an eyedropper so you can maybe you could oh i don't think you're that sad if you're bottling your tear like like if you're actually you know out of control crying you're not going to be thinking about selling your tears unless

you're so it's a very calculated prone to crying're like, get my eye funnel. Yeah. Like, how do you even collect the tears? I mean. Is it one of those like dental suction tubes? Are we going with that this is actually the tears? Let's for a moment. And not just some water? Let's for a moment feel like I'm getting my $12,000.

Well, it said don't taste these because you're going to taste them and go, this is fucking water. Yeah. This isn't tear. This is LaCroix. Yeah. You fuck. Yeah. But how would you, I don't understand, like, do you cry over a plate or something? I don't know.

If anyone knows how to, like, bottle your tears. You let your eyes well up, then you get a dropper. And just suck them up. And you suck them up. That's how I would bottle my tears. Okay. Would you give a video of you bottling it? Because that's how I need to know.

I'm going to sell my tears. When this podcast drops, I'm going to sell. I'm sure someone will buy it, but it has to be a reasonable price, like maybe like $1,400. $1,400, yeah. Discount tears. You don't want to get those Cyrus Lil Xan tears. Yeah, know where your tears are coming from, y'all.

So Pizza Slam is a store. You said that, like I should know what Pizza Slam is. Yeah, I always see them on Instagram, like just doing a bunch of pizza stuff. Like they have a mug that's just as Drake tears. It's like, you know. Yeah, they have a T-shirt that's sorry I'm trash. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah, dude. I think that's part of the Noah Cyrus line. But not even sorry, S-R-Y. Yeah, S-R-Y. I am. Super Millennial Gen Z shorthand. Cool. All right, it's time for Boyd Watch. Back to celebrities who are relevant to my age group.

Meghan Markle. Oh, yes. According to In Touch, she's pregnant. Four months pregnant. It happened on our honeymoon is a quote. And this is based on a picture of where it appears as though her skirt has just puffed out a little bit. Maybe. Or it's a bad Photoshop job.

It's not clear. But it's very clear based on the story that she's not pregnant. Oh, but even though they put, what does it say? Palace confirmation or something? Yeah. Yes, she's pregnant. It's a girl and another girl. Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, and Prince Harry are expecting two daughters.

And they claim that the royal family has confirmed this. And it's not true. So yeah, that's not true. They confirmed it and it's not true. Yeah. Palace confirms twins in like a gold little circle. But you know. So it says, Mom Doria flies to London and will stay for birth.

And then they have a small little picture of her mom. And it says LAX, September 15th. So they couldn't even get her in London. They just have a picture of her at the airport. And they're like, she's probably flying to London. Come on. Come on. So it's just, and they're like, she's probably flying to London. Hey, come on, come on. So it's just, they just lie now, basically.

They can't keep up in a world of TMZ. I just wonder, what is the person who believes everything they read, like in a tabloid, what is their life like? I still think this stuff craps into our brains because they still put it in grocery store checkout lines. See it all the time. So we still see this shit. And it's like, how many times have you

seen Angelina Jolie is about to die and is 90 pounds? That story for the last six years, I think. I've never not known. How are you not embarrassed if you keep believing it? You're like, oh no, she's back down to 90. I think just because it gives you something messy to just look at

and be like, you're dying. hey, hey, you're dying. Can't they just move on with your life? That's what you get for being skinny. Yeah. They've been focus group testing because apparently they realized they need to find somebody else to say is scary skinny, and they've decided to go with Julia Roberts. Yeah, she's been the new- 105 pounds scary skinny Julia.

Okay. It's because her pants are baggy. Right. She doesn't even look really particularly. And one they keep doing too is Bill Clinton's about to die. That's been happening since the day he stopped being president. They were like, whoa, he's about to die. But he did have those heart problems too.

So I mean, that's at least in the feasible category versus like, look at Julia Roberts' wrist. She's dying. Right. And that's basically least in the feasible category versus like, look at Julia Roberts' wrist. She's dying. Right. And that's basically what they're going off of. Yep. And it's usually just like a weird angle or something like that. Yeah, yeah, of course. Life and Style has the truth about those rumors between Bradley and Gaga.

And the truth is they're both in happy relationships with other people. And the construction, it still impresses me. Like it must be fun just to be like, yeah, the truth is they're not together, but you have to read the article in the writer's room for these magazines. Cause like,

is there anything that gets shot down? The headline says, I mean, they're purely basing everything on wish fulfillment. They're just like, what do people want to be true? You want Julia Roberts to be dead and you ship Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper. Gaga and Bradley's red carpet PDA fest, cozy on the carpet, and then just pictures where it looks like they're a couple. And then you have to read the article to learn. And Gaga's fiance, Christian Carino, hung back on his, like, was there,

and just, like, chilling in the background. Who's Bradley Cooper with? A model who he has children with. Oh, he's married? Yeah, he's married. Okay. Have you guys seen the Star is Born trailer? Have you guys seen that?

Have you guys seen this? Yeah. Irina Shaikh is his girlfriend. Oh, yo, I thought, didn't she use to date Cristiano Ronaldo? Maybe, but she walked the runway while pregnant with their child. Yeah, they used to date. Man, she was with Cristiano Ronaldo, now she's with Bradley Cooper. Pretty good.

She's like, yeah, look at you, Irina. And finally, big news in the world of Scientology. I don't know, I thought there was going to be like some air horns or something Scientology air horns it should just be like so Nicole Kidman saving my son from Scientology but apparently

she and Tom's son Connor Cruz former DJ former senior kid, party guy, is now going to be the heir apparent to the Scientology throne. So he'll be L. Ron Hubbard the fourth version? So there's L. Ron Hubbard, then David Miscavige, and then Tom Cruise will take over for David Miscavige, and then Connor Cruz will take over for Tom Cruise? Yes. That appears to be the direction things are headed.

That's got to be tight. To be like groomed to be the boy prince of Scientology. Man, that's fascinating. You could probably be a wild asshole to everybody. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we're like,

you just demand the craziest shit and they're going to be like, yep, whatever you need, whatever you need. They have slaves. They have an army of slaves that do their bidding. Whenever I see them, their pants are always nicely pressed. I never see anybody in a wrinkly shirt.

No. And for whatever reason, I always see people eating fruit in the morning. Like, that's the one thing. When they get on those buses, a lot of people have fruit in hand. Maybe because they have no money and it's the cheapest food they can eat. I always wonder, like, when you're giving all your free time to Scientology, like, man, I can't imagine. They say stuff like, they say that apples wake you up better than coffee, and it's just like, get the fuck out of here. Oh, really?

I don't even care if it is true. I don't care if it's true. I think it's weird. Yeah. Don't wake up and eat an apple. Stop. You know who else says that? Personal trainers.

Yeah. And they can go fuck themselves. How long are you trying to live? Yeah, exactly. Calm down. Well, forever, because, you know, you got to become a thetan and, you know, chill with Xeno and all that. I mean, at the same time, Tom Cruise in person does not appear to be aging.

So, yeah. So, yeah. Maybe they got something figured out. Maybe. Caleb, it's been a pleasure having you. He's rich. Oh, right. Exactly. He's rich. Maybe. Caleb, it's been a pleasure having you. Oh, right. Exactly.

He's rich. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That happens. Where can people find you? Caleb Sinan, C-A-L-E-B-S-Y-N-A-N. That's my handle. And if you can't remember that, a lot of people can't, I got a very uncommon last name.

You can just type in Caleb Conan. If you can remember that, you can look at my stand-up on Conan, and then it'll show you where to follow me. Done a couple hilarious sets on Conan. Thank you. And, yeah, come, you know, follow me. Send me nudes. It'll be fun.

All right. They don't have to be of you. Okay. They can be of anything. They can be even tasteful paintings, nude paintings. I like cat videos. You can send me those. I'm a sucker for it.

I like raccoons. I follow a raccoon on Instagram now. Oh, really? There's a really cute raccoon on Instagram. Is it someone's pet raccoon? I think so. I don't know if it's legal, but it's a cute raccoon. I think they're legal.

I mean, I feel... I've seen a lot of videos of people with raccoons for pets. Oh, I know. People are doing it. People are breaking the law. Oh, but it could be like ferrets in certain states where they're like, you can't have this as a pet. Why would you get a ferret when you can have a cute raccoon?

I think it's called pumpkin. Yeah, pumpkin. Everybody follow pumpkin. The adorable Instagram raccoon. Very cute raccoon. Follow me. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah.

I saw this one. I took a screenshot of it. This is all this one today. You remember when, yeah, sex is cool, but that was like trending? Everybody was doing it. This is my favorite. It says, yeah, sex is cool. No, it's not.

It's a sin. Enjoy hell. Doesn't get yes, sex is cool. No, it's not. It's a sin. Enjoy hell. Doesn't get better than that. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. And there, again, this is a reductress one that Anna

was talking about yesterday. It fucking made me scream. It says, how to fuck him so hard he puts his glass of water back in the sink when he leaves. It's just fucking, I don't know. That resonated with me.

That's great. Yeah, just having a glass of water. I've never put it back. No. It's not good at putting dishes away. No way. What for? You're gonna, eh.

Or just bring your own bottle, you know? It's like making your bed. Why would you do that? I'm leaving this glass here. Who am I trying to impress? Since it wasn't that good. Thought I'd do dishes.

You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. And a tweet I've been enjoying is from atmoviehooligan, David C. Bell, quote, looks like the gritty quick change reboot is coming along nicely with a picture of joaquin phoenix as the joker uh in his makeup because i don't know man i'm with him in that i i don't know if i'm feeling the uh quick changes the bill murray clown movie uh i... I don't know, man. Joaquin Phoenix, it seems very subtle for a Joker.

His performance... But that could be the entry. It's like the first very tired Joker. Right. He looks very tired. Like his laugh would be like... Right, yeah. It's like hipster Joker.

He like smiles a little bit and then like... Hey, hey, why are you so serious? Right, Exactly. What? They should have like old Chevy Chase phoning it in as the joke. Just to be like super sad. Yeah, that face makeup just like accentuates his droopy face. Let's put a smile on that face.

Whatever. All right. You can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on.

You can also find that information in the information tab or the i button. Whatever app you're listening to this on, just look at the episode. There will be an episode description and then below that, some footnotes. Miles, what song are we riding out on today? Well, you know, since we're going to be headed

to Chicago December 1st for Chicago Podcast Fest, get your tickets so you can see us live in person and watch Jack and I do all kinds of viral dances for you. I want to play a track from Chicago rapper Saba and this track is called Life and it's just a cool

he's a dope rapper. I like his rhymes. I like his production and I think you guys will too. Alright we're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is the daily podcast. We'll talk to you guys then. Bye. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. I got angels running away I got demons hunting me I know Pop was 25 I know Jesus 33 I tell death to keep a distance I think he obsessed with me I say God that's the one I know she would die for me

They want a barcode on my wrist To auction off the kids that don't fit their description I'll put you, talk with your Like a problem won't exist if I just don't exist If I grew up without a single pot to piss in Pardon me for venting Congress Got the nerve to call itself religious Rich just getting richer

We just trying to live our life Mama missed the vodka with the Sprite They killed my cousin with the pocket knife While my uncle on the phone He was gone for more to have my life He got out of year and then he died I was with their pocket knife While my uncle on the phone He was gone for more than half my life He got out of year and then he died I was on the road Talking to my father on the phone

Left the city when I was this poor None of them would get the loan Mama begging him for winter coats I was chilling with my niggas boot Now they tryna take a Life don't mean shit To a nigga that ain't never had shit Yeah, life don't mean it

In the dark, fight don't mean fish Oh, ice don't see Ice don't see Ice don't see, ice don't freeze Light don't leave Ice don't mean light to me Tell me it'll be okay, tell me I'll be a daze Tell me that she might pay, tell her I won't be alone Tell her I'll be okay, when the accident's my day

Tell her that we the same, them that we the same, dude I got my granddaddy's soul I'm at war, that's on my mind I seen Walter by the cold Wish I could switch it with mine I'm not worried bout no rap shit Distractions always the times I still go to social functions Even though I'm so anti No, I'm no Rihanna, the court gonna throw it like Donovan Downer, but I just been modeling my whole career as if Park was his studio monitor shaking. I raised the apartment to bond to a prophet. I made what I made and I liked it. Amount of time, the same amount of time you was watching. So stop comparing me to

people, no, I am not them. A lot of people dreaming till they shit against shit. That's life. My mom mixed it, rock it with a Sprite. Killed my cousin with a pocket knife. Found my uncle on the phone. He was gone for more than half my life He got out of here and then he died I was on a roll Talking to my father on the phone Left the city when I was just four Now the dimmer get alone

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