The Daily Zeitgeist - Grilled Dustin Hoffman & Tarantino Star Trek 12.5.17

Episode Date: December 6, 2017

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Buckle up and listen to In Our Own World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust us, it's out of this world. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 9, Episode 2 of Das Daily Zeitgeist. For December 1st, 2017, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hello, it's your boy, Miles Teller of Truths, a.k.a. the Benghazi Master.

And shout-out to Jason, long-time listener, first-time guy telling me he listened for a long time. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious stand-up Matt Bronger. Hey, guys, what's happening? Hey, man. Not much. We're excited to have you. Thanks for having me on. This is exciting Bronger. Hey, guys. What's happening? Hey, man. Not much. We're excited to have you. Thanks for having me on. This is exciting.

Big fan. Oh, thanks. So let's, for people who aren't already fans of yours, let's tell them something about you. What's something you've searched in the not-too-distant past that is revealing about who you are as a human being? I was trying to remember. There used to be an old TV show called Monsters

that was episodic that was like Twilight Zone or Tales from the Dark Side. And there's one episode of this where these kids are at home with their parents. And they get told about what I thought was like a Krampus-type monster. Right. And it turned out it wasn't a Krampus and it wasn't Monsters. It was actually the show Tales from the Dark Side. And I found it. It took so much digging.

It was ridiculous. But long story long, it's basically like he has giant ears, and he flies from the North Pole, and Santa keeps him in a cage or something. And it's this whole story. And nothing happens the entire episode, but they sing these songs about this thing. It's called The Grither. And then the last five seconds of the show,

these giant hands burst through both walls. Oh, Jesus Christ. And break the mom and the dad's necks. That's the end. And I remember going, okay, I've got to find this. Why isn't anyone talking about it? So it took about 15 minutes of digging or something like that because I had the show wrong.

So there's something about me. I like scary, weird stuff. I have a horror movie like that, too, that I've never searched, but that scared the shit out of me when I was like seven. And now I need to go find it. Now that you mentioned. OK. OK.

Yeah. It's like a mom comes home after being away and there's like a person on the street in like a hood. And then she like almost hits them, but then goes to the house and like her kids have all been like slaughtered. Cool. Oh, my God. I don't even know what that is yeah i thought in my head i was like go ahead and hit me nope i thought you're describing don't tell mom the babysitter's day right yeah yeah and then the parents go out of

town and uh they have a lot of fun nerf parties the guy who makes corn dogs yeah um what's something you think is overrated matt um let's see well for off the top of my head uh sun-dried tomatoes uh that hell yeah they taste like fucking raisins yeah they're gross putting them in everything wow seriously if we didn't know they were tomatoes if someone's just like oh this is a plant i've grown you're like fuck this thing this is sugary sweet but not candy like and it's squishy and gross yeah um uh let's see in terms of something a little bigger, what's overrated? Fame, for sure. Not that I know too much.

Right. A little bit. I like to say I'm about as famous. People can't tell if they've seen me on TV or if I went to high school with them. I've had strangers hug me in a mall. That's true. Right. But it blows my mind.

My wife works in the business on the other side of the thing. She's a producer. She manages comedians. And we – just to decompress after like a day of getting screamed at on the phone by all kinds of people or whatever, she'll just turn on like – is it 16? 16 and pregnant? Yeah. Okay. I almost said 21. That wouldn't be interesting.

That would just be – Who cares? This show is called – That's called Average. This show is called Young But Normal. Yeah. And I'm watching all these people on the show and it's nothing against them, but I was like, okay, how much money does this show make? How much money do they make?

None. They make almost no money off that. And what are they giving up? They're giving up their anonymity. They're giving up so much. And I think people, most people just, you know, your layman, your laywoman would just jump at the chance to do a reality show and for what? Yeah. With no guarantee of any kind of cash.

Yeah. I'm fine if they get paid, if they get – make even SAG Basic or after a baseline, which is not a lot, but it's a living wage. It's like making as much as like a manager at Applebee's or something, which is great. But it's non-scripted, so – I know. But that's how they get you. But at the same, you know, that's all I'm saying. It's like how people overvalue fame and for what.

Right. What is it? Yeah, a buddy of mine works on the show and he's been working on it for a long time. And it's slowly, he's built a relationship with these people that he's like, I don't even know. Like, it's hard for me to watch the show and be around these kids and also feel bad. Like, it's, i feel like being on the other side of like the production end of those shows can also take its toll on you too absolutely

i think everyone involved i mean yeah i mean i it's not just people in front of the camera it's at the same time i feel like there are certain people who use reality tv to just create like because they're on reality tv they believe they're famous and because they believe they're famous they become famous and their life just becomes like this weird, like the Kardashians. Like I've met people who are on reality shows who I'm like, why do you think you're better than me? But it's just a foregone conclusion. And so I'm like, yeah, I mean, you must be like clearly, but it's just because you're

on a TV show. But that's, you know, that's, that's to my point as well. That still is, is overvaluing fame for what it is. Yeah, totally. It doesn't mean anything. I mean, Tequila, where's she at now? White supremacist, I believe. Yeah, I know.

She's at that point where she's clinging to anything for fame. It's like, okay, no one else wants me. I'm going to say something absolutely insane and Sig Heil, though I'm not a white person. Wait, what? Yes, she has Sig Heil. She's like, was Sig Heil-ing it around. No way. Yeah, that's where she went.

What? She's Vietnamese. It's not even any ideology. Very strange decision. It's just, look at me. What's something you think is underrated, Matt? Underrated? I think, I'm going to throw this out there, meditation and being by yourself and just shutting down for a while, especially now.

Because I think we're all kind of losing our minds, and it's not only an overload of information. It's an overload of bad information. We're not discovering every day that there are magical flowers that sing in Fiji or something like that. It's always bad fucking news. And I think, honestly, just taking five minutes and shutting your eyes, sitting in a chair by yourself, like, does wonders. Yeah, totally. Meditation drives me insane. It's really hard to stick to.

And I'm disciplined in other ways, but not that one. But that's one of those ones that's just – it's not a sexy thing to say, but I think it definitely helps. No, it's interesting. It definitely helps. No, it's interesting. It's something I've been thinking a lot about because there was recently a New York Times op-ed where they were like, in our culture, we're actually too into presentness and being alone. And we're actually social beings. And because of our phones and our modern pop culture, we've kind of cordoned ourselves off into little bubbles. culture, we've like kind of cordoned ourselves off into like little bubbles. And so I was like, finally, I can stop meditating, even though, you know, it has been very helpful

to me in the past. Maybe I should go back to it. Yeah. So wait, you just let that op-ed derail your own spiritual? Totally. I wouldn't disagree with that op-ed either. I think a lot of us do, you know, there's a difference between kind of shutting down and, you know, cutting yourself off from the world and just taking a second for yourself then going back into it.

Absolutely. But yeah, that's a big thing where people kind of just go, well, what's the point? I'm going to Netflix and chill by myself. Not in the term the kids use, which is having sex. But yeah, so I agree with that too. Yeah, I'm shockingly impressionable, Miles. You didn't know that. That's true.

You have insane amounts of power just being whatever you say. I know. When I was like, yo, Jack, you know it would be a baller if you had a Rolls Royce. You pulled up in one. Wow. Yeah, the next day. I'm in so much debt. Savage debt.

It was repoed later that day. Yeah, technically my son is not mine anymore. But, you know, it belongs to the government. In that creamy leather seat. I didn't know you could use babies as down payments. At the right dealership. Give it five years, man. This administration, give it five years.

Well, new car. If you have too many children, we have this slave camp. Look, just putting it out there. They know how to make license plates. Which one do you love the least? We're going to get into format. We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there. Change of how to make license plates. Which one do you love the least? All right, we're going to get into format. We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there, change the world, whether we're looking or not. We talk about politics, the president, news.

We also talk about movies and supermarket tabloids because those are out there influencing people. So we're trying to take the temperature of what's affecting the national shared consciousness. And Matt, you may be our guest that is the most working stand up that we've had on the show. We have had other stand ups who might be mad that I just said that. But yeah, you're a stand up who is constantly working. And I feel like so we do a myth up top where people disabuse us of any sort of misunderstandings or misconceptions that exist in the sort of national mindshare. But I wanted to ask you first, because you're out there, you know, surfing the vibes of our nation, to put it in a really douchey way. I like it. Is there anything that you're feeling out there that you don't see reflected a lot in the sort of zeitgeist? Yeah.

I mean, bottom line, everybody hates the president. Everybody is really fed up with him. I've played areas that were pretty red that are now kind of like oh no you know because i i think uh a lot a lot of these places voted for him for you know the one issue voters uh and it wasn't even the issue of you know abortion or you know uh gay rights anything like that it was just jobs right and you know they thought he would come in and do that and he's him and his cronies are looting the company the company that's how it looks at it at the looting the country um so that's one also uh the thing that that i can't stress enough is

the more you talk face to face with someone the more the bs melts away and the more we can connect right you know uh i feel like a lot of people are saying that now but maybe not as many as as they should be i feel like we scream at each other online and, well, that's how Russia stepped in and used us to their own ends by creating these bots that get people all riled up on all kinds of stuff that might not necessarily exist. So, anyway,

bottom line, now a lot more people are talking. It's ironic that we now have this tax disaster getting pushed through by people who no longer hold town halls. Right. Because their town halls scream them out of the room. Right.

Because they're so full of shit. Right. You know? So that's the big thing I'm noticing now. But that also, thankfully, you know, it seems like I'll always have a job because people always want to laugh. Right. Right. And it gets bad like this.

Right. And has that affected, like, your material, too? Because I know you're saying, like, at the beginning, was it, like, really Trump-heavy? And now it's sort of like, are we shifting? No, I kind of stay away from it. I mean, the only thing I have a joke about how the great thing about him is he has something literally everyone can hate. If you're a lefty like I am, there's a million things. But you can specify to your minutiae things. i'm a weak chinned man i had a goatee all

through my 20s and there's only one reason to have a goatee to cover up your weak ass chin uh no guy with a strong chin ever grew a goatee probably never ever uh they grow beards uh or mustaches and uh trump does this thing where he sticks his lower jaw out in the middle of a sentence like he's trying to get away with having a strong jaw. Right. It's like it's an old grade school trick. You know, when it came time for school class picture, you'd stick your lower jaw out. It looks dumb, but you think it makes you look like you have a jaw.

Stick your lower jaw out. It looks dumb, but you think it makes you look like you have a jaw. And I wonder if in his dementia-saddled, supposedly, mind, if in the middle of a sentence he would just stick his lower jaw out and think someone in the audience would be like, oh, is that Robert Redford all of a sudden? My God. Fine chin. So it's like little things like that. I feel like if – and also I'm not the best person at political comedy. I know a lot of people that can do it and make it real funny. I just get too mad.

Right. Right. So it's just and no one wants to see that. No one wants to see. God damn it. You know, it's bullshit. Portland, Oregon. You know.

Yeah. Right. Right. It's like Louis Black, except just all screaming. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Well, speaking of the president of the United States, we're going to get our check in with Trump world out of the way up top. I guess the headline we're going with is Trump to Earth. I'm fucking you. Yeah. Thank you. I wrote that one. Yes. Made history on Monday by becoming the first president to remove a national monuments protected status in I think the land is in Utah. status in, I think the land is in Utah. And the thing that I didn't understand, because I kept seeing pictures of these very specific land formations or rock formations, but he unprotected a landmass that is the size of Delaware. Like, it's actually bigger than Delaware by 25%.

Yeah. So the Bears Ears Monument and Grand Staircase Escalante's monument designations were totally just like thrown in the trash because, you know, Trump obviously wanted to spin it as like, you know, regulation is killing, you know, our ability to enjoy these lands when really he's saying, let's open these lands up for development because a lot of these federal lands sit on pretty mineral-rich ground. So you can mine it for coal or oil or gas. So by doing this, basically, we're opening the door for possible real mineral extraction, resource extraction from these beautiful landscapes. And that's pretty troublesome because even beyond monuments, there are just many federal lands in general that have rich fossil fuel resources on them. So this is probably going to be an ongoing development. But this is definitely like a dangerous step towards, you know, like totally screwing monuments over or like really beautiful federal lands to this kind of development. Because, you know, this whole time Trump has been talking about energy dominance and all that. And we clearly know that he doesn't care for clean energy. So of course, you're going to be looking for gas,

oil and coal. So these places look like very, you know, promising places to begin. Right. And they're on tribal land and tribal land that multiple tribes came together to, you know, be like, we would really love this to be protected. So that's one thing, non-white people asking for it to be protected that's one thing and then obama said yes i'll protect right and then obama was the one who protected it so uh the the two things that guarantee something is going to get fucked with and yeah in our world uh it's it's so ironic that i i i find myself wishing that obama would have supported some causes that were absolutely terrible so Trump would go completely the other way.

You know what I mean? I don't want to just pick a thing out, but if he was just like, I just don't think gay people should get married. I just don't. And Trump's like, I am on your side. Because it's just – he's this giant – he's just a baby about it. He cannot go with anything that Obama was for. Yeah. In better news, LeVar Ball is, it seems like, embracing his role as the number one Trump troll, the guy who most gets what pisses Trump off.

An opinionated black man? Yes, exactly. So he came out and said, why would I thank Trump? I sent him my ugly-ass sneakers. ZO2s. The ZO2s. And he didn't thank me. So I don't know. That's hilarious. That's funny.

No, I mean, I love that just because he was in a situation where the stakes were well you owe trump a thank you that he was like well i'm gonna send him something to see if he will thank me i know and he was like i sent it to 1600 pennsylvania yeah and he's like i still haven't heard anything and they're like the same guy right you know they're both just massive blowhards and the thing that i kind of love about this is that you know when when trump uh you know i don't know how much involvement he had in actually making the situation go away and get the kids out of there. It seems like not much. Right.

You know, get the kids. These are grown adults, but they're so young, you know, out of that country that, you know, Trump was like, they got to thank me for this one. Right. All right. Listen, there's no getting around this, guys. No getting around this. People might not like me, but this one, I got some blacks, and you know he said it like that, out. I got them, black Americans out.

And LeVar came back, and you know Trump went into a room and screamed every epithet for black people you can imagine. Oh, yeah. He must have lost his mind. Oh, yeah. Because he thought it was just a slam dunk. He thought it was a slam dunk. Pun intended. No question.

Miles intends every pun. He must. It's kind of glorious how much he must hate LeVar Ball. Oh, yeah. I hope. This is the showdown we need. This is Nicholas Biddle versus the Banks, you know, for like back in the day. We need.

I really. It's like we were saying earlier. It's an immovable object versus an unstoppable force of egos. And I just feel like I get such a kick out of this sort of back and forth between LeVar Ball and Trump. And they both take their social cues from the WWE. They are living WWE personas. That's where Trump got all of his ideas. That's how he would score so big in debates.

This wasn't my observation. Someone else was saying this. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's it. Because he would just go after you like, oh. Look at you, you're weak-chinned. Yeah, look at you, little so-and-so. Look at my observation. Someone else was saying this. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's it. Because he would just go after you. You're like, oh. Look at you, your weak chin. Yeah, look at you, little so-and-so. Look at my jaw. So far.

Little Marco. Called Little Marco. And it's just like these politicians are like, we don't talk to each other. What are you doing? Look at him. Look at him drink a water bottle. And Marco's like, woo, yeah. That's what we like.

Fucking flame him. Yeah. And now it's LeVar Balls just coming in like Ric Flair. Yeah. Exactly. He also pulled a son out of college. Yeah, and now LeVar Ball's just coming in like Ric Flair. Yeah, exactly. He also pulled a son out of college, LeAngelo. Wait, why did he pull him out? Because he's suspended?

Yeah, and he was like, fuck this. Fuck this, I'll take my kid to Marshall, where they'll accept that kind of shit? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. In his mind, that's not, you didn't fire him, he quit. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're perfect for each other. No, he isn't. Yeah, exactly. No uh he's suspended from no he isn't yeah exactly no he's leaving him out uh let's just hope he doesn't like sign him with a with an agent because he's not good enough to make them no no um but he thinks he is he thinks he's gonna get drafted

this year does he think that or lavar ball thinks no i think lavar thinks that do you think liangelo is kind of like dad i want to be a dancer right Right? Yeah, there's some Billy Elliot situation going on here. Bolly Billy. No, Basketball Billy. There was a scout for the NBA who was like, yeah, I can't find his name on any of the lists. Like, even the deep ones. Yeah, not even the ones that hurt. Like, the do not draft list.

Here are five players on each team to just keep one eye on. And they cover everything. They're like, all right, we just need a giant Bosnian. He can't move that fast. Just to stand in the post and just swat balls out of the air. He doesn't even need to run up and down the court. We just need that for this one team. But LiAngelo, poor guy.

Nothing. I'm telling you, look, LiAngelo. They can't find an angle. LiAngelo, I know you're listening, man. If you don't want to play basketball, stand up to your dad and tell him what you really want to do. You want to be a painter, a dancer, a chef, a blogger, whatever. Follow your dreams, man. Don't let your dad pressure you just because your brothers on either side of you are pretty good basketball players.

A doctor, a lawyer, just wear the shoes. Or a thief. Just want to be a gentleman burglar. A gentleman thief. Yeah, exactly. Specializing in diamonds. Yeah, you could be like the Thomas Crown Affair. It doesn't have to be like, you know, Hamburglar type shit. You could do upper echelon robbery type stuff.

Just make sure the shoes don't squeak. That's a really bad career advice, Miles. Hey, man. Hey, you could do robberies. Actually, the truth is, art theft is way easier than it looks in that movie. People just walk into museums and pull art off the wall and put it in a trench coat and walk out. Yeah, good God. Which is unbelievable.

Yeah, because the people who are working there are not expert security guards. They're just people they hire to pay $12 an hour. They're elderly people who have something to do all day. They're like, I'll be a docent. Yeah. And the irony of that is to find whoever can move that kind of product, you've got to be in the upper echelon of society anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got kids walking off the street and just stealing. Yeah, I got this Picasso blue period. Bullshit, you do.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. That's a fake. It's folded up. Why did you fold it? Oh, I couldn't fit it in my pocket any other way. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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What a break. So it is time for another episode of Mengazi, where we give you the latest updates on all the hot sex crims going down. So up first, we have Danny Masterson, a apparent actor, shitty DJ and Scientologist who was with Ashton Kutcher on the show The Ranch. No one watched that. Apparently people watch that. It's like the most transparent version of Netflix's formula where it's like this show and this show, like people like those. So I think it was like two and a half men and that Westerns like mixed with that 70s show. And so they just like threw them on top of each other. So he's been accused by now four women of rape.

So not just sexual harassment in the workplace. I think rape and sodomy were some of the charges. Three of the women are also Scientologists and were apparently pressured by the church to stay quiet since Zeno is now adding obscuring sexual assault charges to his list of powers. No, but he's being written on the show and he was just basically saying like,

I've denied the outrageous allegations and he's like i've he's like i've never been charged with a crime i've not even been convicted of one okay that doesn't mean anything like right clearly we were we were living in an era where people weren't being charged or convicted of these crimes so that's not really a defense right um so it's a very it's a very dark – And he's saying we're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but it seems like in our current climate – Yeah. Blaming the current climate is whack.

Come on. Yeah, I get anyone who's saying innocent until proven guilty, sure. But when it's like multiple allegations, like your employer doesn't need to be like, well, yeah, I'm going to let the court sort it out. Well, that's never how. And it's ignoring the mitigating factors. I mean, the fact of the matter is, is post, you know, the first couple of days or whatnot, rape is really, really hard to prove, from what I understand from a law enforcement standpoint. That said, the mitigating factor I would bring it up is Scientology. You have this extremely powerful organization that is allegedly pressuring these women

that are already Scientologists. If you know anything about that religion, it's very archaic and not cool with people going outside the realm of what they think is right or wrong kind of thing. As well as they treat Tom Cruise and the celebrities in their religion, they treat the people who aren't celebrities like that bad. Yeah, and who do they have now besides Tom Cruise and the celebrities in their religion, they treat the people who aren't celebrities that bad.

Yeah, and who do they have now besides Tom Cruise? They have Tom Cruise. They're Jesus Christ and Lord. Beck is there. But that are out and out with it. I feel like, I don't know Beck's story, but I feel like there's certain people that it's just like

they've been generationally in that religion. Right, right, right. Their parents and their grandparents. Giovanni Ribisi. Right. So, but Masterson's one of those guys who, to me, like, I remember seeing him with a t-shirt on that said, look out, psychiatrists are coming for your children.

Yeah. It's like, hey, man, you know no one believes that horse shit? Right. Like you maniacs? Right, right, right. Like, no one really thinks psychiatrists are dosing our kids on granted sick tea though there are 60 60 bro um you know yeah i the the book going clear talks about how uh you know scientology has this uh c org or this army of like underage kids who sign

away their lives to basically do slave labor for the rest of their lives so that's something to kind of put the celebrities in scientology into perspective is they are you know one of the very few modern day americans who are existing in a world fueled by slave labor yeah because the people who work in all the bookstores and things like that they all work for free. Yes. They sign like – they can't afford like something million-year contract or something like that. Yeah, like 900 lifetimes. Yeah. That Becoming Clear book like was brutal.

I read that. My cousin suggested it to me. I read it. It was just – and if you watch the HBO special, it didn't the one thing it it pulled back on was that book goes in on tom cruise like yes hardcore and yeah anyway so if you if you want a good uh a good read to burn through and be extremely disturbing check that thing out by a new yorker reporter it's like really well reported it's not like some like trashy tablet thing no the last chapter is miscovige yelling at the writer from across the table of lawyers when he realizes they cannot stop the book.

They have no legal avenue. And he's like, you're going to be ruining people's lives. It's like, oh, you don't care, man. You're fucked and you know it kind of thing. Yeah. Well, then the other thing with this Danny Masterson thing that was in there is like, hey, they have a lot of evidence that suggests like Scientology. They said they have evidence that there were emails sent to and from Scientology officers at the time that the alleged rapes happened. And there's forensic computer evidence.

So there seems like there's a decent amount of evidence here. But what's also crazy is that one of the accusers went up to a Netflix executive at a kid's soccer game. Who they knew. Who they knew and asked why Netflix is still employing Danny Masterson. And this exec was like, we don't believe them. Like them being the accusers. And the woman's like, I am them. Right.

Like you're looking at them. Yeah. Uh, it's just, we don't get the other side of that because I guess you can't print, uh, duh. And then like sprinting away into the ocean. Uh, yeah. Yeah. And I think it's, it's, it's interesting because that executive supposedly works in like the, you

know, a completely different division. Nothing to do with that. Yeah, it's a child's entertainment. You know what I mean? And I think like I'm not offering a defense of this man at all. But I think maybe in that moment he was just – I don't know. But the thing is I don't know why he would say we don't believe them. That's insane.

But I think in his mind he was just like, I don't want to talk about this. He should have just said, oh, I don't work on the ranch. I got no. And you know what? I don't know. I don't know. And also, I'm in my kid's soccer game. I'm here to cheer for the kickers.

He was the coach. But that said, I mean, what a thing to say. We don't believe them. He did say we. He didn't say, like, I'm not in that division. I've heard they don't believe it i've heard they don't believe them and who knows if that's what was actually said yeah no totally this is all secondhand but right you know but if it is what's said that that speaks poorly to netflix's culture

because holy shit like if yeah you would expect like any rational person would be like oh i i don't know uh but if they're like putting up up a wall of it's us versus the accusers. Well, they got Kevin Spacey out of there right away. Yeah, they did, actually. Right away. I mean, maybe, I don't know if that's testimony to Scientology's power, but the amount of time it took for them to get Danny

out of there. I mean, they're going to shoot the whole new season of House of Cards eight episodes without him. It's going to be all Robin Wright. I mean, are they just going to shoot like a salt and pepper haired actor facing the other way, gripping his chest, and he falls on the desk

and that's the opening scene? Just bring in Christopher Plummer. Yeah, exactly. That's the Kevin Spacey replacement. That would be such a fuck you. The movie and the series. Yeah. And I have no idea

how they're going to write Danny Masterson's character off the ranch, you guys. I mean, there's so many dangling plot've laid so many plot threads. So many plot threads, so many roads. They're really doing a number on themselves with that one. He plays his own twin.

What are they going to do on that one? That would be amazing. Like the great films. And a rival ranch. So the Met Opera conductor, James Levine, or Levin, I don't know how you pronounce his name because I don't know shit about opera. I don't know how you pronounce his name because I don't know shit about opera. But either way, it touches all levels of culture, it seems like.

Yeah, he's in a sexual abuse scandal. So we shall see there. Roy Moore. Have you heard about this guy? This Roy Moore fella? He's a cowboy, right? Fighting for the underdog. I don't know much else about him.

So we have some great audio of interviews with his spokesperson because I feel like they're creating new levels of logic, puzzles of how to deny something. It's actually somewhat impressive. So we're going to listen to his spokeswoman talking to a CNN reporter. He left the room and came back in wearing his white underwear. And he touched me over my clothing, what was left of it. And he tried to get me to touch him as well. Do you believe her? I don't believe her at all. And I'll tell you why. Not only was she sought after by the Washington Post, her own mother doesn't believe elements of

her story. We need to make it clear that there's a group of non-accusers that have not accused the judge of any sexual misconduct or anything illegal. So, yeah, that was edited. That was her initial, you know, rebuttal. And then we moved forward to her second argument, her second defense, which is, but look at all the women who haven't accused him of rape. There's like billions. Yeah, that's a big number. Yeah, and if we're talking dead and alive, that's trillions of women. I think he's fine. God, what else?

People that haven't accused him mother theresa right princess diana yeah never made a move on the princess who didn't like the princess right um so that's i mean yeah what what the fuck like that's the kind of shit like that's literally from the simpsons yeah we're like millhouse was like wearing a tutu and he's like bart but what about the times i didn't wear a tutu like that're entering territory where these used to be jokes. Yeah. Right. Like when you had a shitty lawyer or something.

Right. Joke logic. Yeah. People are applying this in real life. That is fucking scary. Yeah. They just need his vote so bad that it's just... Oh, yeah.

At this point, the comedy writer in me just wants him to be on camera just masturbating and talking about his lovely penis tattoos. Say Jesus the Lord or whatever. God is my shepherd or whatever. And just to see what they have to – because they're just in this position where they have to. To defend him. They have to defend him. And they're all in. The RNC has gone ahead and endorsed him.

Mitch McConnell walked it back, too. It's pretty disturbing. They're like, look, what's more important? These tax cuts. Women's lives, these tax cuts for the 1%. Yeah, Mitch McConnell did the old, the people of Alabama have to decide. Let the people of Alabama decide. Trump came in and officially endorsed him, as did the RNC.

and officially endorsed him, as did the RNC. The Hill just released an Alabama poll saying Jones actually, so his opponent actually leads more by four points according to one Alabama poll, but a lot of polls that we've been hearing from. Was it like 52 to 48 or something? That's the first one I've heard with him in the league. Yeah, that is 48 to 44. Oh, there was another one that DeRay McKesson retweeted. It was like an image where the math added up to 104%.

It was like 56 to 48. They're giving their all. They're almost to 110%. Yeah, right. As a coach would say. And then later on in that interview, I think in the beginning of that interview with Poppy Harlow of CNN, the spokeswoman just comes out swinging like before you empty everything so i think this is a clip because this is an interesting poppy

harlow is pregnant for those that don't know so this plays into what uh roy moore's spokeswoman was saying to her to start that interview and let me get right to it so thank you it's great to be with you and by the way congratulations on your your unborn child uh that's that's the reason why i came down as a volunteer to speak for judge raymoore because he'll stand for the rights of babies like yours in the womb uh where his opponent will support killing them up until the moment of birth right who will actually come for your fetus i don't know if you've interviewed him but he will actively try and kill your fetus extract your fetus spike it like a football and that's the double standard

they're creating that that as if as if that's with the left's agenda. It's like, yeah, okay, he molested little girls, sure. But they want to come and end your pregnancy. Right. No one wants that. No. Nobody wants that. That's not how abortion works, you guys.

No. Anything else on Roy Moore that we want to talk about? I don't think. I mean, look, the election is, what, a week from today? Yeah. So let's let the people of Alabama decide. Show us that you're on the right side of Alabama. Please.

Come on now. Please, you know, for a moment. He was banned from a mall. Yeah. From a mall. It's like classic pedophile stuff. That's insane. Not allowed in a mall, near schools, or near circuses.

Like, weed dealers don't even get banned from the mall. They're just like, I don't want to see you hanging around this part. I don't want that smell coming off your trash. If you're smart, you work at Brookstone, Papi. Come on. You leave the weed bag in the massage chair. You come in, you sit, you leave your 20, and you're out. Stashbox.

Who doesn't know how to do this? Y'all didn't sell weed at the mall? Come on now. Come on. We gave you the college football playoffs, Alabama. Just give us this one. Give us a Democratic senator. Give the rest of the country a fucking win.

Yeah. Roll Tide. So Dustin Hoffman, you guys. Oh, yeah. He had an interview with John Oliver. So Dustin Hoffman's Mengazi story is probably the one that gave me the strongest case of douche chills just because of how bad his joke was. It was like an attempt at a joke. So a young woman who I think was like 14 or maybe 17,

she was a teenager at the time that she worked on a TV movie with him in 1985. And she said, he grabbed my ass. He talked about sex to me and in front of me. One morning I went to his dressing room to take his breakfast order. He looked at me and grinned, taking his time. Then he said, I'll have a hard-boiled egg and a soft-boiled clitoris.

And then his entourage burst out laughing. I left speechless. Then I went to the bathroom and cried. Just got to admit, it is a good joke that makes sense. Wait, no. The opposite of both those things. Soft-boiled clitoral? Good Lord, sir.

That is just... If we sat in this room, all of us, you too, Anna, and we wrote down, like, what is the weirdest, creepiest thing we could say to a woman, but it doesn't make a lot of sense. We could be here all day. And not come up with it. Just drinking pots of coffee, and we could get our number one, and it would take the silver to that gold. Right, right.

Because it's – The egg joke that I've heard is, how do you like your eggs? Fried or fertilized? And that's good. That makes sense. That's brutal, but it makes sense. Yeah. But, yeah, I think this is only possible if you have lived at least ten years with nothing around you but adoring sycophants.

Yep. Right. And then, like, you get into this weird logic where, like, things don't have to make sense. Everybody's like, ha-ha, good one, champ. I thought it was funny. Do you guys think it was funny? It was great, Dustin. You're a killer.

Right. Why would you never stand up? Well, I played Lenny Brose in a movie. You did. That's right. A little before my time. Please give me a job. Oh, did that come out?

Sorry, Dustin. It's wild. Yeah, it really is. People do get gaslit into thinking, wow, I am the funniest guy in this room. Yeah, yeah. Because everyone's laughing. Yeah, it's restaurant manager syndrome. When I was a waiter, everyone I had just thought.

Thought they were hilarious? Yeah, I still, my friend Henry Sykes, who now owns a bar in Chicago and I used to work with, he can't. He can't fake laughter. And the manager would just give him looks like, I don't know about that guy. You're not funny. He's a barometer. Restaurant manager syndrome. No offense to restaurant managers out there.

No, but I love that. But that dynamic within it's like, well, I've got to make sure the boss thinks I'm cool. And we had that thing where in the culture of that restaurant, it was kind of like, everyone's buds. Yeah, we're friends, right? Right, right. Yeah, that's like most bosses syndrome. Sure, that's true. Yeah, just anybody.

That's true. Red Miles? Isn't that right? Isn't that like most bosses? Oh, please don't fire me. Oh, my God, man. You're the funniest dude I've ever worked for. I'm serious.

This is crazy. This is so crazy. All right, all right, all right. This is so crazy. He's up. He's up. Fuck you, man. It's funny.

The thing about that is he said it to her in front of a bunch of people. And that's one of those, a definition of harassment that hasn't – I don't feel like has been covered so much in this so far in the Mengazi forum where it's kind of like what it comes down to is making women uncomfortable. Yes. Whether it's one-on-one and the extreme would be Harvey Weinstein coming out with his robe open or Louis jacking off in front of two women or whatnot. He's making a terrible sexual joke in front of a bunch of people, probably all dudes. And just like this poor girl.

Probably one uncomfortable woman. Probably. Which makes him think it's cool. Right. Yeah, sure. He feels comfortable enough to say it in front of a room full of people. And she feels like she has to leave the room to cry about it. It's like that's how things have worked.

It's like if you've ever been bullied or made fun of in front of a bunch of kids when you were a little kid, you know that feeling. Right. Where she's a very young person. She's new to this movie set. How could you be more intimidated than going to take a film legend's breakfast order and then he talks about your private parts in front of a crew. That's like a royal.

Terrible joke. In a way that makes you think that you're missing something. Right. Like, oh, but I don't even get that. Yeah, and even if she was like, oh, she went from working like she was a rodeo clown or she did like a hard job or something before that. And she fires back. She's like, well,

what's your shriveled little dick going to do with it? Right. They're not going to, I mean, you could probably like, like he wouldn't expect it at all because he, he sees her as a diminished human being. Right.

I mean, yeah. Or he would have tried to marry her. And that's when I knew I loved her. He would have fallen too hard in love. I want to leave my wife. Dustin, stop it. Dustin.

His manager's slapping him across the face. I just, I love a slap. So he was on a panel. I'm not sure what the panel was for, but he was being interviewed by John Oliver. And John Oliver went full John Oliver in kind of asking him to explain himself. Yeah, this was actually, it actually a screening of Wag the Dog. Weird. Yeah, after that, I guess there was a Q&A session,

and John Oliver was moderating, and we know John Oliver does not play. No, he goes in. And that was the movie he was accused of, that supposedly he was... No, it was a 1985 TV movie. Oh, it was? Yeah. movie. Oh, it was? Yeah.

Oh, okay, okay. Sorry, go ahead. Look, so I read today a diary. She wrote this one line which would be right around my head. She said, no one is 100% good or bad. True, right?

Dustin's a pig, but I like him a lot. I mean, that is both extremely generous and damning. Do you believe this stuff that you read? I believe what she wrote, yes. Why? Because there's no point in her lying.

Well, there is a point in her not bringing this up before years. Oh, just... There isn't? Of course. Oh, there isn't a voice. Oh, my God. So, there's been a long

period of him sort of getting away with bullshit and like John Oliver, like, being very patient with him up to that point and then

at that point, both John Oliver and the audience are just like, oh, Jesus. Even people up on that dad,

you're like, no. Yeah, it's funny listening to it through these nifty, fancy upscale headphones you guys got here. Right.

Thank you so much. It's, you know, because we were listening to it before upstairs just on a laptop. Yeah. And just,

I did not hear the groans. Oh, yeah. The sighs that just went, came through. That was Robert De Niro meeting,

I mean, Dustin Hoffman meeting reality. Right. Basically right there. It was like, oh, what? No? Yeah, he goes, no. Oh, really? It's not?

And normally everyone laughs. And he's like, coming forward 40 years, in his mind, and applause. Right. So out of touch. Oh, no. So out of touch. Yeah. It's like looking around for his boys to burst out laughing.

Yeah, and the thing is that those sighs are reluctant. Yeah. It's like looking around for his boys to burst out laughing. Yeah. And the thing is that those sighs are reluctant. Yeah. Because everyone, I mean, I'm a huge fan of his work. Yeah. He's done so much great stuff. And obviously everyone who showed up to watch Wag the Dog in the middle of the afternoon or something, they probably love him too. But it was just that thing of that, not you too, man.

Yeah, right. Not you too. And also to even defend yourself like that, that was just sort of, like, what was the point? It's been 40 years. All it is is mine is, like, why are we fucking talking about this right now? We're talking about the movie. You have cornered me, and I can't go anywhere. That's all that's going through his mind.

Probably. And so he's just like, oh, you know what? I'm not going to take it. I'm going to fire back. And he fired back, and it was a weak shot. Yeah, guys, watch the thing you read. That doesn't doesn't even like that argument doesn't even make sense right right that's well well fuck you like that's all that is right yeah watch the whole thing because like hearing him talk even before that like he's just kind of meandering and it's it's not it's not a

good yeah it's the old uh i got a bad edit on the reality show argument, which is oftentimes true. But yeah, you can't just fall back on that every time. And finally, closing out Benghazi is someone getting closed out. Yeah, John Conyers, the congressman from Michigan. Yep, he is retiring today. So peace out to John Conyers. Thank you for your service. But no sex crimes needed here. Right.

He was like, no, I'm not resigning. I'm retiring because I have this health issue that's going on. And I think the health issue is that he's 90 and feeling a lot of stress because he sexually abused a bunch of women who are now coming out and being like, hey, you felt me up in church while I was sitting next to you, you fucking creep. Ugh. Boy. Yeah. That's good to see some progress being made, I guess.

You know, when you think about all the great consensual sex all of us have all had in church, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Sully it a little bit. Right. You know what I mean? He took that from us. It's after hours.

You sneak in the confession booth, you and your lady or your fella, whatever. Right. You know what I mean? He took that from us. It's after hours. You sneak in the confession booth, you and your lady or your fella, whatever it is. Anyway, I particularly hold that against him. Right. I feel like I can't do that anymore. Yeah.

So, good. There's now open room for Roy Moore to... Yeah, exactly. Oh, God. All right. We're going to take a quick break.

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So, one fun piece of news for you. We like to parse We laugh the whole time We're talking about the earth being destroyed And sex crims and all that So there's a rumor floating around That Quentin Tarantino is going to direct a Star Trek movie Yes

He's currently in production I believe On a movie set during the Manson murders in Los Angeles at that time, which feels like it's up Tarantino's alley. It's like an L.A. story and very stylized. I can see that in his style. But a Star Trek movie is like – No, that's unexpected. It's crazy.

That's crazy. I'm excited because I have no idea what that's going to be like. Right. We were talking upstairs, I was remembering that scene from Rathacon where they put those little worms in those guys' ears. Right. And that fucked me up when I was a kid, like brutally. It's just so, ugh, so gnarly.

Yeah. But I think if Tarantino directed that scene, it would be like 25 minutes long. Oh, yeah. You know, it'd just be like so much unbearable tension. Like, all right, cut. Right. Cut. It was like 60s pop music behind it it'll be wild i mean look i it's a rumor but i really so badly want this to come together because it would i it would change science fiction i think for forever nobody's ever done i mean i guess not since david lynch did dune and even that was not that lynchy and lyn Lynch can sometimes just be very down the middle.

Right. But I long road home. That's a really good reference because I feel like it's going to be dirty. Like doing was dirty, you know, how everything in doing was kind of covered in sand and like kind of everything was kind of a little bit fucked up.

Yeah. Right. I think the Tarantino Star Trek would have that if they go to some far area of the universe that's really, really terrible. Yeah, yeah. I feel like even when they come across Klingons or whatever, it's still kind of – it's a sanitized battle. It's lasers. It's all this stuff. Right, right.

It's not a lot of real pain. It's not a lot – and Tarantino is going to put his hands in the mud and go like, all right, no, we're going to – No, there will be a Klingon who gets his like jaw ripped off. Sure. It's going to be a next level. There's going to be so many red shirt guys just getting blown up or set on fire. Usually in Star Trek, they land the one guy in the red shirt gets killed. Yeah.

And in Tarantino, they're going to have like an army of red shirts that are just going to be. I just love to see what a laser gun looks like, like a firing laser gun looks like. Just all the Star Trek shit would be really cool looking in his world, I think. You know, it just wouldn't look like sci-fi normally. No, no, no. It would be like some arty... I mean, who knows how much, you know, how much latitude he's going to have to actually mess with sort of like canon type things of like how the characters look and things.

It'll look as different, but I think it'll feel different and they're going to go to areas that will look different. Yeah, like when you see Sam Jackson say, get the fuck out of here, Khan. Shut the fuck up, motherfucker. Oh, my God. That's when I'll be like, yes. Oh, my God. Star Trek fleet members cursing.

I never even thought of that. I mean, obviously, Bones. Bones is going to go on some new levels. He's going to be working like someone's femur bone. Ah, his femur bone's being a real cunt. Good lord, bones. He's like, what? The director said it was fine. He's going to be like my friend's divorced

dad when we were growing up. New dimensions to these characters. Kirk will probably have a drinking problem or something. He's haunted by his past of when he massacred a bunch of alien kids or something. Again, it's a rumor. It seems like there's a little something to this.

But again, man, if it happens. Yeah, I'm excited to see what he's going to play with. Tarantino has also talked about directing a Bond before, and that never happened, thankfully, actually, because he wanted to do it as a 1950s period piece in black and white, starring Pierce Brosnan, his favorite Bond. Tarantino's weird. He also thinks the Lone Ranger movie from a few years ago that was –

With Johnny Depp? Yeah, was one of the better movies that year. He has very strange opinions on movies now. Well, what's it? Broccoli or whoever owns the Bond franchise is probably just like, oh, we like your ideas. All right. So I guess the meeting's over. Yeah.

That was it. That was it. Like, you're just like, no, man, it ain't happening. The one thing it'd be interesting, like, will he do like an alien foot shot? Because, you know, he has foot shots. Yeah. You'll definitely see some green. Like a nine-toed.

Yeah. And what if he's only doing for this? He's like, I've pictured the perfect foot. It's green. It has scales on it and nine toes. And Star Trek he's only doing it for this? He's like, I've pictured the perfect foot. It's green. It has scales on it and nine toes. And Star Trek is the only franchise I could do that in. I mean, who knows? Would you give an alien a foot massage?

Yeah, right? He's like, I'm the foot fucking master. That Wrath of Khan thing is so interesting with the specific fear that stuck in your head. And our super producer, Nick Stumpf, also said that that was something that stuck in his head. That's something that – just a zeitgeisty thing. I'd love to hear other fears or movie scenes that put fears in people's minds or something. So tweet at us. If you want to go down a terrible rabbit hole, Google most disturbing movie scenes, and they'll give you lists.

Yeah, yeah. You'll look at the list, and it's like, you'll go, oh, right. Oh, God, that one. Oh, yeah, that. But the earworm is so specific. It's just like they hit on a thing that probably existed in your mind already, just waiting to be fucked with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a bug getting in your ear.

I'm already blinking my eye thinking about it. One thing in The Matrix when the Agent Smith put that weird thing in his belly button. In his belly button? Yeah. Yo, that fucked me up too. I didn't even want to touch. Body horror, yeah. I'm like, no, no, no.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's my con earwig. Yeah. And then the last thing, I just wanted to touch on the fact that there's a lot of the super talented people that I worked with at Cracked. A lot of the people that I actually hired at Cracked got let go yesterday. It's happening to a lot of websites right now. And I don't know, there's just a whole bunch of really talented comedy writers and artists and just writers in general that are looking for work in the L.A. area. So keep an eye out for them, and hopefully we'll have some of them on the podcast soon.

Allie Gertz over at Mad Magazine basically tweeted, like uh, basically tweeted like she is looking to hire some and she loves crack. And so I thought that was really rad. And that's like, you just don't see a lot of that now. All you, all you see is downsizing. All you see is strip mining of, because that was such a clear like thing, like where people loved cracked because of the editors too.

Like it was a relationship people cultivated with the actual people who wrote there. Yeah. And to, to, to sort of gut that is sort of... Yeah, I don't know how much I can say. I obviously greatly disagree with that direction.

There's still a bunch of people I love who still work there. So I'm still rooting for them. But yeah, just what a bad call on their part. And yeah, it's their loss and potentially Mad Magazine's. It's amazing. The irony of that. Still going back and forth. Yeah, holy crap.

Mad and Cracked. And now they're like, welcome home. Right. It's probably like someone from Mad who suggested it. It's like a long play. It's that Alfred E. Newman. Eternal Alfred. All right, Matt, this was so much fun having you, man.

This was a blast. Thank you for having me on the show, guys. Where can people find you and follow you on the internet? Well, you can go to mattbronger.com for all things me, and you can go to atbronger for Twitter, Facebook slash Matt Bronger. I also have a podcast called Ding Donger with Matt Bronger where you can call a number and ask me. Actually, I'll say the number. You can ask me anything you want.

I kind of am styling myself as the dirtbag Dear Abby right now because I feel like I just got married at 43. I've made pretty much all the mistakes people younger than me are going to make. I've lived my life on the road and as an actor and stuff like that. So I just basically, I like hearing these people just record messages. There's no pressure.

You don't talk to me. You just record any message. And then I just kind of riff on it. So the basic overall layout of the show is I'm trying to keep you company. The great thing about podcasts, like this one especially, is that someone listens to it and they feel like they're with someone're they're with someone we're hanging yeah exactly and that's that's to me the best thing about podcasts um uh so anyway if you want to uh have me solve all your problems give me a call at 323-776-3609 uh that's on feral audio and i do one once a week awesome yeah that sounds amazing it's fun.

It's a lot of fun. Miles Rick, people follow you. Well, you can follow me. I'm definitely going to leave Matt some voicemails. Do it, please. Both of you. I need some advice. No, I have friends that call in, too.

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