The Daily Zeitgeist - Grim Batman’s Fun Pizza Tie-In, China Enters Misinformation War 3.03.22

Episode Date: March 3, 2022

In episode 1096, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, writer, and host of Celebrity Book Club Chelsea Devantez to discuss Not Even John Bolton Can Handle Newsmax’s Trumpy Bullshit, China Propagand...a Accounts Now Supporting Russia’s Invasion Narrative, Unpacking The Batman’s Unhinged Marketing Campaign, The “Russian” Vodka Ban Trend Is Basically Pointless and more! Not Even John Bolton Can Handle Newsmax’s Trumpy Bullshit China Propaganda Accounts Now Supporting Russia’s Invasion Narrative Unpacking The Batman’s Unhinged Marketing Campaign I ATE LITTLE CAESARS’ ‘THE BATMAN’ CALZONY Papa John's projects Batman-themed bat signal for free chicken wings The “Russian” Vodka Ban Trend Is Basically Pointless Some U.S. governors order state-run liquor stores to stop selling Russian vodka LISTEN: Closed Place, Open World by Slauson Malone Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:01:25 podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 226 episode 4 of your daily zeitgeist production of iheart radio it's a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and of course it is thursday march 3rd 2022 which makes it national cold cuts day you know someone's got to celebrate them they're not being celebrated in this household but you said it's not being celebrated no my kids fucking hate cold cuts bro really yeah so so does my wife and i'm like only oh okay on them but i grew up fully like there was always some turkey that was on the verge of expiring in the yeah drawer in the refrigerator little
Starting point is 00:02:43 panic sandwich. Mm-hmm. Like, just right at the buzzer. Ate it. Yep. Did you fuck with cold cuts growing up? Yeah, well, see, like, having... My mom didn't understand cold cuts, really. Like, as I said, I like salami.
Starting point is 00:02:58 That was, like, the thing that I would have around. And it wasn't until I was, like, in middle school and I saw everybody was eating turkey sandwiches and I was like, I also need to have turkey meat in the house, mom. So here and there. But I love I love sandwiches. So by default, I love cold cuts. Is like our cold cuts made of like processed meat.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I feel like the thing when you see them there, it's like a big meat log that doesn't appear to be the natural state of a bird but right well i'm suspicious of cold cuts given having some distance from them oh yeah i mean when you see like how big uh sometimes you're like this is turkey i'm like that looks like eight breasts like gigantic turkey breasts put together like in a ham hock yeah but i But I don't know. But it's everything. It can be sandwiched meat, turkey, ham, salami, whatever. I'm aware of what they are. I'm just, I don't know what the fuck they're putting in there, you know? Still delish. Still delish.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jon and Al at Wells Fargo Center, and I had so much water, So I went out to get a steak and there he was. You don't live in Philly, but there he was. Like soggy disco fries. I smell piss cause Jackie's here. Jackie downs that piss like beer. That is courtesy of Lex Lugie, Mr. Lugubrious. Yeah, just a reference to my family in Philly and the fact that I drink pee and it has nothing to do with COVID.
Starting point is 00:04:41 All right. So don't accuse me of being an anti-vaxxer. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host mr miles gray you know what in honor of those cold cuts i eat loose salami love that loose salami okay that, that's from Run the Jewels. Ooh la la. Shout out to Christy Yamaguchi-Main at Waffle House. Because yes, like I said, cold cuts. Just eating loose salami in a Ziploc bag was my lunch sometimes. Wasn't quite ready for the sandwich game. But anyway, shout out to you for that wonderful ear and bringing salami into a great Run the Jewels track.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Damn, did you know it was National Cold Cut Day coming into this episode? is this going to be a themed episode about cold cuts and i just i'm just saying this is what i don't know this is this is like one of those moments where uh it all comes together all right well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliantly talented filmmaker and writer she was the head writer for The Problem with Jon Stewart on Apple TV+, and wrote on Girls 5 Eva on Peacock, one of my favorite shows of the past couple years. Bless This Mess on ABC, The Opposition with Jordan Clever. Just all the shows that you want to be writing on.
Starting point is 00:06:01 She was writing on that shit. She wrote, directed, and starred in Basic, which won Best Indie Short and Best Comedy of the Year on the festival circuit. Oh, wow. Full bio. All right. Yeah, keep going. I don't know. I'm impressed.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I'm impressed. Not everybody gets this, but according to the trades yesterday, she just inked an overall deal with 20th Television. Okay. Which I only kind of know what that means, but it sounds boffo to me. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Chelsea Devante! Chelsea!
Starting point is 00:06:34 Thank you so much for having me, for using the word boffo. I mean, like, what a day already. Truly a boffo guest for us. This is boffo BO in the podcast world yeah how's it going how's what's it like to be winning stay winning like that oh man it is both great and maybe everyone has this or maybe this is just you know whatever from my childhood but i'm immediately like oh god oh god i'm winning this something that can't be right. When's the loss coming? When's the loss coming? Yeah. What's the loss, man? And I think it's this weird combination of feeling like I sweat blood and tears for 15
Starting point is 00:07:18 straight years. And like, thank God this finally arrived because I've been killing myself for it. thank god this finally arrived because i've been killing myself for it and simultaneously the feeling of like no way right right right you know what i mean where you're just like you're like that's my picture that's my name and i know i did sign the thing yeah yeah that's me i'm both like you should have given me this a decade ago how dare you and like whoa can you believe it's me right right congrats though thank you yeah amazing thank you so much wonderful to see people's names in the trades that you know and you're like that yes them yes they should exactly thank you so much very exciting we're very excited to have you back on the show yeah we're the author of one of our favorite Zeitgeist thesis statements, I believe, with the connection of The Bachelor and Trump's election in 2016. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Thank you. That is an honor I wear and talk about frequently. I'm constantly like, you've got to listen to that daily Zeitgeist episode with me on it. We're talking about The Bachelor in a way that I think you'll find really compelling. Right. And then 20th Television was like, did you hear this episode? They're like, whoa, get her a deal.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Are you guys watching this season of The Bachelor? No, I've no, I haven't watched. I saw one episode early on, but no, I haven't kept up. Yeah. I mean, that's fair. It wasn't really exciting coming off the last season. Well, I feel like they tried to be, they didn't really try, but they tried to be diverse, inclusive, woke.
Starting point is 00:08:52 And now they have like reset to factory settings. You know what I mean? They were like, shut it all down. Bring in a host that looks exactly like the main guy, just like two of the biggest little eraser head idiots. And now we started again. Right, right, right. Yeah. Moral licensing as if it's like, it's like, yeah, we voted for Obama. All right, get Trump in here now. Seriously, it's like, how long can Obama's legacy make you feel good? I mean, like, we're really, we're really stretching that out you know how much longer can
Starting point is 00:09:25 we go it is paper thin at this moment i think i feel like i always sort of follow the bachelor just like via other people and even this season i'm not even like hearing anybody talking about oh yeah yeah real snooze fest it's yeah it's a bummer for someone like me who likes to read about the news, you know, want to die and then just tune in to some hot bachelor mess and trash to sort of get your endorphins back up. Yeah. All right. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about later on. We're going to talk about John Bolton's appearance on Newsmax and just his general.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Just our general. Where is he now? We're always we always like to check in with compelling figures and find out what they're up to. So we can see what Bolton's up to. We're going to talk about China's propaganda accounts now supporting Russia's invasion narrative. And we want to unpack the marketing campaign behind the new Batman movie because all the reviews are like, this is dark as fuck. This is like definitely takes itself serious as a dark piece of like gritty, paranoid, cynical art. And then it's like, and you can get the new Papa John's pepper bat wings or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:57 There is, I also have to just say, the main reason I want to bring this up is it's the most unappetizing tie-in that I've ever seen is a Papa John's, the Batman tie-in. That's only happening in the UK, unfortunately, but it's bad. So we'll get to all of that, plenty more. But first, Chelsea, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? OK, so I I was looking up Phil Spector's white Afro wigs and really going on that journey because I was reading Ronnie Spector's memoir and she talks about how he wanted an afro wig so badly and couldn't find a white one to fit his extra small head. So an extra small white afro wig, like who's making these? You know what I mean? And so once I read that and she was like, my mom and I had to
Starting point is 00:11:38 go find him this white afro wig or else he would threaten to kill us. And so, you know, just a light, it was a light reading. And then I was like, well, I got to see these wigs. And he really found a few of them throughout the years. And I find it pretty impressive. Like who made those wigs, do you think? You know what I mean? Like, did he have to get those custom wigs? You didn't know those were wigs?
Starting point is 00:11:59 I didn't know those were wigs. I thought like, just because they were so strange. I mean, that's maybe a lesson for any peacocking, balding man out there that if you just go so strong that maybe a certain type of stupid person won't suspect you're wearing a wig. But yeah, no, I think a lot of people didn't. And you know who else pulled that move? Again, I read all these celebrity memoirs from my podcast, Andre Agassi. You know, he had that long flowing hair. I mean, just a blonde mane on the tennis court, all wigs, all taped in extensions. It's just so funny to be like, I'm balding a little bit. Give me hair to my waist.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Let's go strong. Yeah. And also like to Phil Spector, he worked with like so many black artists that he was like, I'm bald. Let me get a white afro it's like and no one like we really didn't call him out till he murdered a woman you know what i mean like we really let him push the line until we were like you know what phil maybe you're not okay you know that yeah you know i used to fuck with the wall of sound and that was a trademark uh you know thing of yours but oh what's going on a big yags uh i mean just yeah so i've been down a phil specter rabbit hole i don't know if you guys know this other crazy
Starting point is 00:13:11 tidbit from him and ronnie specter's life but you know the marriage wasn't going well he like trapped her in the house and one day to make her feel happy he surprised her with two white twins and was like surprise you're the mother of these two twins and she was like i don't what wait what and he was like merry christmas and then just like handed her two children wow yeah i spent a lot of time trying to look them up as well just to see what they were up to holy shit okay i'm looking back at some of the pictures of the wigs and I'm realizing the other reason that I was confused is they look like shit. They don't look like anything anybody would want their hair to look like. So that might have also thrown me off.
Starting point is 00:13:54 That's a good strategy. You're like, I'm bald, but I'm just going to have a ton of shitty hair. So no one would think this is an active choice I've made. Right. Oh, right. Because they're like, him? Phil? No, his hair's just shitty, man. I know it looked like it. It was just some shitty afro perm.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I imagine he was like, hello, can you please make a white afro extra small? And the wig maker was like, sure. Sure, I'll sell you something. For my little head. We just do child wigs here for Halloween. He's like,
Starting point is 00:14:27 yes, it's for my daughter. Hello. Can I, could I die this bozo clown wig Brown? Is there somebody who you would be like a celebrity whose hair is what? Just whatever. It can be bad.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Good. I think you would be surprised, like the most surprised to find out was Rock in a wig the whole time. Oh, God. Surprise. I want to think, because it's like Dolly Parton,
Starting point is 00:14:53 incredible hair. We're not surprised about the wig. Yeah, of course. You know, I think, I think Rob Lowe. I think if Rob Lowe had been sporting just a little tiny wig this whole time, I'd be pretty surprised.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Tiny little wig. It would be Agassi-esque just because for some reason they're both handsome classically. But yeah, Agassi, once you find out it's a wig, you're like, oh yeah, well, he was strapping it on with a bandana the whole time. Who would you guys be surprised to find out it was a wig john cena i think yeah because he has he's got short hair and he's also got like obvious like hair plugs that like don't seem to be working well so if that was a wig if he was like give me the wig that makes me look like now Now, Owen Wilson's a great question. I have actually had the thought in the last couple months. Owen Wilson.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Is that a wig? I want to know. I want to know. I wouldn't be surprised. What's the truth? You know, we're so tough on men losing their hair, and it's, like, so shamed in society. And yet, a part of me, this is so messed up,
Starting point is 00:16:03 a part of me is like you know what good like y'all deserve something to freak out yeah like we're just you know women are just put through such hell for their looks and then men men just kind of have baldness and i'm like you know i think it's okay i think it's balancing the universe that we're so cruel about it yeah especially the scramble that you're like that you see how inelegant men's solutions are to such a thing where it's like agassi's like fuck i'm losing a little bit of hair a lot of hair don't even think about the transition when you don't even have enough hair to weave on to just shave it bald and do the most jarring transition people have ever seen like joey lawrence too oh yeah or or
Starting point is 00:16:41 they'll be like hmm fedoras come in purple. I think I'll start wearing purple fedoras. Right. Yeah. What if you had gone with a fedora instead, like on the tennis court? That would have been tight. With a chin strap so it doesn't blow off. What the fuck are you going to do? Oh, man. If only.
Starting point is 00:17:03 What is something that you think is overrated? Assuming people know what they're doing. Assuming people know what they're doing. You know, when you like pay for a service or, you know, when you're sort of like, OK, you know what? They really know what's up. I got to put the money up for this. And you're like, surely they know what's happening. I feel like every time I if I pay for something i i give them just so much leeway you know what i mean like someone could just be fucking your life over and you're like well i did pay them money like i recently um i got one trainer session because i haven't worked out in uh two years so i was like i should i should have a babysitter for my first workout so i was like like, you know, it's a trainer. I paid the money. Surely they know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And like the next day my body was just so fucked up. And like, you just, it's like someone could just like put on a t-shirt and be like, ma'am, you need to cross the road here. And I'd be like, oh, okay. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? So I think, um, assuming people have knowledge is something I'd like to explore. Yeah. So I think assuming people have knowledge is something I'd like to explore. Yeah, I've I've done that with like things that have like related to like construction or whatever, too.
Starting point is 00:18:11 And then I'll just get I'll just get like talked into anything because I'm like, I don't know. Yeah, I look, I have none of these skills. And then like they come back and like, all right, I put your door on upside down with the knob like. OK, that's my response.. And I'm like, okay. That's my response. Okay. Okay, thanks. So how much do I make the checkout for?
Starting point is 00:18:32 Is that the good way to do it? Yeah, are you guys people pleasers? Like if somebody did put your door on upside down, would you just be like, thank you, sir. See you later. Or would you be like, you got to fix this. Yeah. I work on it in therapy, but I am absolutely like my default is would you be like you gotta fix this yeah yeah i work on it in therapy but i am
Starting point is 00:18:45 absolutely like my default is to just be like uh thank you no no no thank you for putting it on upside down because this has been a learning experience for me you're right it would be cool to sit on a toilet like that backwards like a cool teacher from the 90s i yeah it's fate yeah this is actually great thank you thank you Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. When you work on conflict and therapy, does that mean you just fight with your therapist
Starting point is 00:19:09 or you're like, no, I don't have that disorder? Yeah, exactly. That's, I just. Come on, Jack, you want your door like this? No. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:16 No. Yeah. Yes. Come on. Whenever we get to the end of this conversation quicker. All right. Well, that's time for our session.
Starting point is 00:19:23 We'll pick up next week right here. Yeah, I've definitely like my so my wife, my wife, I have to do that now because I'm married. But she is like the opposite. She will fucking like, I don't know what this is. Shut this down. That's awesome. You married well. This was a good decision. It's all about it's all about finding your knowing your own weaknesses and embracing them and finding a partner that can help you. That's really, I think, the best part about marriage is like acknowledging your own like shit and being like, and this person helps me with that. And that's why this we thrive. Yes. But I every now and then when I'm in situations like that, I have to like sort of tap into her energy to be like, no, I need to say this right now. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I want it lower. I want that lower. Thank you. Thank you. That was a good look on you, though. I would listen to that. Like, all right, we're going to lower the toilet seat. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Miles means business. He means business. You know what is a great example of this from my life is waiters. I do the thing too much where I'm like, what do you think is good? What is the most popular thing? And the waiter does not give a fuck about it. They're just like, dude, shut up. You're making my life harder.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Just pick whatever. Also, I mean, I was a waitress for just honestly most of my life. I've been more of a waitress than I've been a comedian. And oh, just I would just lie. I don't know. I mean, like one, it's not like I've eaten it. I can't afford to eat these meals. And like unless you're at a fine dining restaurant, they're not like, OK, so.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So you just be like, oh, God, man, like, I don't know, like a burger. I don't get to eat the food here i love it what if you just took that as like for me oh i would love a burger right now i'm so hungry give me that i like the loose fries that they let us eat in the back and dip in the hollandaise sauce. That was my... That's your favorite memory. Waiter. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Fries. Yeah, the fries. They always allow you to eat the leftover fries. So it's like, what's good on the menu? Man, fries, I guess. That's my favorite. Yeah. Fighting in the back of a kitchen.
Starting point is 00:21:36 When I used to work on Hell's Kitchen, the Gordon Ramsay competition show. Okay, hot drop. They would do things where... Flex. Oh, as a PA working the restaurant floor. Okay, let's's get too into this but there would like they would do this stuff where like you know there's like an open kitchen and like the two teams are competing and they would take food from the pass and just to make
Starting point is 00:21:53 the shot look busy they would take food and not really put it on a table and just take it to the back where the pas would fucking fight each other like fight each other over eating it because they're like yeah whatever it's up for grabs this was just for like the camera and we're like i've never had duck before let me have it this time sarah that that's your restaurant week yeah exactly yeah but the other day about the this like being at a restaurant thing i was at jersey mike's and i said on the sandwich i said no tomato and the dude was making it put the tomatoes on and i was like all right never mind and then the guy miles was like no then this is what he did he said oh shit you said no tomato huh and i was like no it's okay you didn't even i know you didn't take the offer i know and then and then the guy was like the guy had to stand up for me he's like
Starting point is 00:22:40 nah what the fuck you talking about you said i was like i was so after i left i was like i have not been i have not been interacting and advocating for myself in public for too long now no could you actually just give me a sliced tomato and leave the sandwich there i just i want i just actually just take the tomatoes i'll take those i don't want the sandwich anymore just what the fuck that's hilarious that's hilarious uh I think I laughed so hard at that because I fully identify yeah I mean it's like a weird thing where even the guy like you said he offered and I was like I felt like I don't want to I'm like well you put them on so right I uh I'm I'm getting married this year and I've been wedding dress shopping and um it's
Starting point is 00:23:23 really intense it's a really like some places are really intense and I've been wedding dress shopping and it's really intense. It's a really like some places are really intense. And I tried on a dress that I definitely didn't want. And I, you know, looked in the mirror and was like, man, I want this and I'm paying for it. So it's like, it's my precious money. And everyone around me was like, you should get it. And I was like, okay. So the bridal people come out and they're like, oh, you have to sign these contracts. And it's like a six-page dress contract. And I'm like, you know, you have to go through each page and be like, I will not change my fucking mind. And I'm like, in my heart, I'm like, I don't like this. I'm signing every fucking page of the contract, flipping pages, sign it, get home.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Obviously, I'm having a panic attack. My fiance answers like, just don't get the dress. And I'm like, I signed. I signed so many pages. Our wedding doesn't count if I don't get married in this dress. Yeah. They said we're not engaged anymore. And so then I had to spend four months getting out of a wedding dress contract.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Oh, my God. Simply because I could not. I couldn't. My therapist was like, just repeat after me. Say, I'll let me think about it. Let me think about it. And I was like, yes, yes. And I still can't even get those words out of my mouth.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Yeah, let me think about it. Right. I was telling you my advice. Yes. Just say yes. Oh, yeah. Yes, yes, it. Let me think about it. I was telling you my advice. Yes. Just say yes. Yes. Yes. I'll wear this dress. It's so stupid too. I'm the one
Starting point is 00:24:51 paying for it. I'm the one making the decisions. No one's bullying you. It's a nice experience and I still was like, yeah, let me fuck myself over. You know what? Yeah. You guys seem to like it so much. It's like this thing that starts off when you're a kid you know like you're like one of your first forms of like getting
Starting point is 00:25:11 positive feedback is doing something and making like adults go wow great i love that and then you're like okay this is a way to live and then that shit can turn to a runaway train cut to me being like no leave the tomatoes on that i said i didn't want. Or he's like, yes, I will sign all these contracts. Like, we're just like, fuck, just break out of that and just say, what the fuck do I want to do? Yes, yes, it's hard. It's so hard. All right, let's take a quick break.
Starting point is 00:25:36 We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members
Starting point is 00:26:05 for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold
Starting point is 00:26:23 and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week,
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Starting point is 00:27:53 the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:28:08 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
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Starting point is 00:29:26 then look no further than the show straight from the source at NFL media. Do it before it's too late. Subscribe now and listen to the NFL fantasy football podcast on the I heart radio app on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and chelsea we'd also like to ask our guests what is something you think is underrated okay i was really thinking about this and hear me out taco bell now i know you're gonna like well everyone loves taco bell chelsea it's underrated. But I think it's underrated as a source of dinner you should have seven nights a week. I think it's like a good food source. I believe in the product.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And I think like every night for dinner is like, I think it's a good choice. And one I've been making. I don't know why my trainer session went so poorly. Actually, now that I think about it. Getting the bell sweats. Oh my god are you okay? You know I had it for dinner and I was like man this is the best like why would I ever bother eating anything else? It does not fuck with my digestion the way that it apparently does for other people. no i i know the joke of like uh you know talk about go straight through not me man it'll it'll sit there for years
Starting point is 00:30:51 and i'm good with it and i feel great makes me the person i always knew i should have been whoa that's a very interesting well also i want to say so i may this is everyone's going to turn off the podcast after this i'm a flexitarian which which is where I'm mostly vegetarian, but too lazy to commit. So I'm mostly vegetarian and potato tacos will, will rock your life. Have you guys had them? Oh yeah. I mean, I just don't understand. Wait, from Taco Bell or just in general?
Starting point is 00:31:21 No, Taco Bell specifically. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Taco Bell, potato tacos. I just don't understand why everyone isn't talking about it every day. Yeah. Were you guys ready for me to bring this level of enthusiasm for a very popular fast food restaurant? I'm just trying to come up with something to say because I think Miles and I both agree with you so hard that it's like, we're just like, yep. We've been rendered inert.
Starting point is 00:31:46 We're like, perfect. We should order Taco Bell now. Yeah. Wait, are you, and so what's your order? You get a couple of potato tacos. What do you,
Starting point is 00:31:56 what's your deal? Yeah. How do you get that? Yeah. Potato. I get a couple. That's yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I get two. Uh-huh. And, um, numbers. That's why I say couple. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:04 That was not. Yeah. Yeah. Just get two. You don't have to put numbers. That's why I say coupled. Yeah, yeah. That was not. Yeah, yeah. Just get two. And then I get cheesy gordita crunch with beans. That's got it. Wow. I've never tried that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:13 There's no meat. Yeah, because the meat is probably the worst thing that they have to offer, even though it tastes great. Right. It's like probably the thing that you're most tempting the gods when you take in too much of it i mean i definitely had a awakening when i saw the taco bell's lunchables come out in the 90s and one of my friends had it and like and at lunch they just like pushed out the meat from that plastic like packet and i was like oh that looks good as fuck that looks amazing wow anti cold cuts
Starting point is 00:32:46 pro cold Taco Bell lunchable meat didn't see that coming in the packet that was the fact that they tried to go cold Taco Bell and cold pizza like I don't know I wasn't on no pizza lunchables
Starting point is 00:33:02 looked like shit to me did you guys eat them were they good no No, I never. I mean, I remember at a kid's house, I had a play date. And they're like, I got pizza Lunchables. I'm like, fuck, yeah. And we were like, this shit sucks. And then we microwaved it. And then that was then.
Starting point is 00:33:16 But we didn't know how strong a microwave was. So we cooked the shit out of it. And it was like fucking terrible. Throw it in there for 45 minutes. Yeah, we're like, I don't in there for 45 minutes yeah we're like i don't know like 10 minutes 10 minutes i am i'm so bad at cooking a friend brought um she you know it's it's still pandemic time so she brought over a pizza to our porch and she was like i think you need to reheat it and um i set a timer for 30 minutes and she was like,
Starting point is 00:33:45 I bitch, I just picked this pizza. Why would you cook it for time? Like, I don't know. That sounded like a pizza time. Yeah. They make them faster.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's, let's move on to some news. Let's talk some John Bolton. Always, always good to catch up with this guy.
Starting point is 00:34:07 He's just got good energy, good vibes. But they had him on Newsmax, and he wasn't having it. He's not on board with the Newsmax pro-Trump bullshit. It's like they don't know who John Bolton is as it relates to Trump. I mean, him leaving the White House, it was clear he was like, did not like Donald Trump. Now, was he going to go as far to like actually do the right thing about something? Well, no, not really. But he'll do the right thing to get a book deal to like, you know, because that seems to be the path for most people exiting that administration. But his relationship with Trump wasn't positive.
Starting point is 00:34:43 So that's I was like, this is an interesting choice to have on Newsmax. You want to have someone who's from like the national security warmonger set to come on your show to talk about what's happening in Ukraine. And they're like, the whole spin coming from right wing news is essentially that, you know, this narrative that, you know, when Trump was in power, none of this shit was happening. But then the second Biden gets in, now Putin thinks he's a tough guy because, you know, Trump had him shook. And see, Trump was actually a strong guy and keeping us safe. Not with this Biden guy. He's all over the place, blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:35:17 So that's like kind of the way they want their viewers to kind of take in what's happening is that Trump could have prevented this by coddling Putin more. But anyway, they had John Bolton on to say those kinds of words in front of them. And let's just say he very much was like in one of those few moments like, let me tell you what really happened when I was there. So take it away, you Muppet looking warmonger. Was pretty tough on Russia in a lot of ways, forcing NATO members to pay up, as we know, sanctioning Nord Stream 2, oligarchs close to Putin were sanctioned, selling anti-tank weapons to Ukraine, so arming Ukraine, withdrawing from the INF Treaty and expelling Russian officers from this country as well. In 2018, he looked NATO members in the eye and talked about the reliance on Russian energy by Europe and how horrible that was. I mean, he took a very tough stance against Russia. I'm surprised you don't think that he would have handled this better than Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:36:15 No, he did not. He did not. How did he not? We didn't sanction Nord Stream 2. We didn't sanction Nord Stream 2. We should have. We should have brought the project to an end. We did impose sanctions on Russian oligarchs and several others because of their sales
Starting point is 00:36:32 of S-400 anti-aircraft systems to other countries. But in almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it, saying we were being too hard. The fact is that he barely knew where Ukraine was. He once asked John Kelly, his second chief of staff, if Finland were a part of Russia. It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians. So it's just like, what the fuck is what where am i that's i i also don't how are they just pretending that he didn't almost positively collude with russia to win the elect
Starting point is 00:37:15 like tough on russia like like maybe tough when you were just like like jacking him off maybe like i i don't like how are we just use the lotion that one time he jacked him off i know but like why wouldn't they at least spin the narrative of like you you know oh they were friends and he was sucking up to him and so this wouldn't have happened it's just like tough on him it's it's just such a wild also yeah very sad we have to reference newsmax as if it's a real news organization yeah i mean when you think of how many people began to shift away from Fox News and they tried to say things like,
Starting point is 00:37:49 you know, maybe Donald Trump lost that election. People were like, ah, fuck this. We gotta go to CarMax, but for news. Who else can we listen to? Give me the news facts. I'm looking at some RAV4 hybrids that say Trump is pretty sexy. And the president.
Starting point is 00:38:06 So I like this. And still the president who's handling Russia well. Yeah. I mean, it's one of those things where, you know, obviously they have to project and always say whatever's happening is the opposite, even in the face of just the most, you know, damning evidence or despite reality. So, yeah, I think for them, they're like, this is the only thing we can really run with. We can't run with. Could Trump have done more? Because that's not a thing anyone is going to say on these networks. It's like he did everything. He was perfect.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And the only reason this is happening is because Trump's not president. OK, the reason why that climate change report that just came out that said that we're in a really dark spot with it, that also that wouldn't have come out if Trump was president. Also, and the Lakers would be in the playoffs if Trump was also your wife. She wouldn't have left you if Trump was still. So you're right. I like this channel. I like this channel. She would have been like you were right about Qon, and you guys would still be together. Yeah. Those bullet points were very light,
Starting point is 00:39:09 and one of them just wasn't true. Right. I have not tuned into Newsmax in a while, but I hadn't fully appreciated how much it now just resembles Russian state-sponsored TV. That's just straight up. Oh yeah. Them and OAN, they have like the,
Starting point is 00:39:28 and also they have the worst production quality. I was going to say like, why can't they get better logos? Like I need a logo that's not out of focus. Like if I'm going to really sink into these issues. Oh, it's not out of focus. We just don't know about creating graphics at higher resolutions. So we use thumbnails for everything
Starting point is 00:39:45 so they're all distorted when we put them on big tvs the other thing is like so many graphic artists like i've seen like posts of people just slamming just like how they even set up like the graphics on the thing where you know traditional news even fox news a graphic will come up like in the upper corner and like other graphics will like animate to move out of the way to be like and then our next story which is like there on newsmax and oen like literally just see like a jpeg like of like violently just be like and then this is happening and then like layer another one on top and you're like no one gives a fuck in that direction like i don't i you know sometimes we go into these like Republican versus Democrat and we're talking about the issues we're talking about voting rights.
Starting point is 00:40:28 We're talking about climate change. Like, I think our new angle should just be like, all right, look at their graphics. Look at ours. Look at their comedians. Look at ours.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Listen to their music. Like, like let's stop fighting on moral issues. Let's stop fighting on what matters. Like let's, let's get in on stuff people can relate to and be like is this really is this really your party right just yeah really go like the marketing team like it's actually like really like the saddest thing you could do
Starting point is 00:40:54 chelsea you're gonna be saying that until ben shapiro takes over hollywood which he's in the process of doing so i think you should actually here's now but here's what i said i said i said graphics music and comedians now when it comes to podcasts they're putting us in the fucking dust oh yeah the red like they hold the top 15 position and uh like 15 of 15 people who i don't even know their names are like the number one podcast host in the world no they're crushing us um so if if you guys could move to 24 hours a day i'd really appreciate it we've been bonginoed and uh we oh yeah there's nothing we can do about it
Starting point is 00:41:31 holy shit yeah i don't it's also he like to claim that he would be doing something he's not in power right now and he's not willing to criticize putin like he's so like we kind of have an idea of what this would look like if he was still in power it would just be that putin had even less resistance and there he actually did say he came out earlier today and i on wednesday he did actually have a comment that was telling Russia to stop. He said that he called the invasion a Holocaust. They really love to use that word for almost anything. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I mean, with the vaccines, it's a total Holocaust right now, making people the mandates. And you're like, hold on. You use that word for actually anything. Anything. Anything. It's really gotten like holocaust is it's a it's really odd to be able to take the meaning out of that word and i think they're getting close right oh yeah it's gonna be like anything that sucks he's like and then i get my order from mcdonald's i open the bag they forgot the quarter pounder
Starting point is 00:42:40 total holocaust i love that you do that in trump voice too it's 100 yeah and you're like it is but he did say he wanted he told them to stop killing these people so i think someone got in his ear like i'm sure that'll work yeah yeah yeah right yeah i mean that's a good strategy it does seem like the new strategy which has been russia strategy, but the new strategy in Ukraine for the past week now has been just war crimes. It's just like bombing hospitals and schools, which I don't know, like in terms of repercussions, like probably nothing is going to happen because it seems more and more clear that China has his back. nothing is going to happen because it seems more and more clear that china like has his back like their uh rolling stone like did a digest of chinese propaganda on social media and it's like basically just mimicking what russian state-sponsored tv was doing a week ago so that i feel like really well their bots went from like man these, these are like the sickest Olympics I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And then suddenly that account is like NATO aggression and blah, blah, blah. You're like, whoa. On February 22nd, one of their like more sophisticated Twitter bot or whatever, probably a person who they pay well to do this, shared a video about the Olympics. Happy moments come and go, but memories stay. And then abruptly switches its focus to just saying that Ukraine is like actually friends with Russia and this is all the U.S.'s fault. So, yeah, it seems pretty clear like what side they're on. And it's just going to be it's it's scary it's a scary future i feel like it's also like
Starting point is 00:44:29 very similar to the climate change strategy where china's like it's you and we're like no it's you and like and and then um and then people just die in the meantime right you know like it's it's it turns out it's all of us but that's not helpful to well actually turns out it's mostly the u.s right yeah like statistically the like china china will never produce the amount of co2 that um not co2 that the u.s has like the u.s has like produced so much of climate change like no one will ever catch up to us even though their numbers are currently higher than ours i don't want to pivot to climate change. We got to stay on war. You know, just like one tragedy at a time. The war against Earth.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Yeah. But that's that stuff. I saw in your notes that the account was called Spicy Panda. Spicy Panda. It's tough when Spicy Panda's like, all right, we're talking invasion of Ukraine. You're like, Spicy Panda, please. Come on now. This is not the content I come here for. Wait, post those Instapot recipes again, Spicy Panda. Not this stuff. But I mean, I think they've always, you know, I think recently, too, Russia was talking
Starting point is 00:45:38 about how now they're going to build a pipeline to China to find a way to get their gas exports and things off. You know, so in the chat, I think China out loud says one thing. But, you know, the actions are clearly saying like, yeah, you know, like we got your back until it really starts fucking up our money. And I think that's kind of where a lot of this is hanging now is like trying to see like, OK, how's this going to end for Putin? And then, you know, going forward, what does that mean for other autocratic aims out there? All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:47:11 Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do,
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Starting point is 00:50:09 on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back, and so is Batman. Batman, there's a Batman movie movie it's coming out tomorrow probably tonight if you if you wanted to be one of those people who like goes to the movies late and sees the the first one with like a lot of other sweaty people i like that i like that very wordy description of like the the early preview for fans if you're like one of those people goes out late wears a costume uh hey i'm old man this is all new to me you know but yeah so apparently the reviews are like fairly positive but also say it's like seems to be have most in common with
Starting point is 00:50:58 movies like zodiac and seven more so than any other batman movie and whoa what yeah that's those are the touchstones that people holy shit what's in the box batman oh what's in the box but if you've been watching the some of the marketing campaigns it feels more like sonic the hedgehog we're, where there's the Little Caesars bat pizza, which is like a calzone. They basically cut a pizza up weird and put it in the shape of kind of the bat symbol, and it looks like shit. Also, it's less pizza. So it's like, hey, we took out some of the sides of your pizza
Starting point is 00:51:43 to kind of look like a bat. Do you like that? Hey, have you ever seen those pictures of dominoes like on Super Bowl night when like the pizza just gets like flipped upside down and like turned into just a complete mess? What if that was on purpose? What if that is what we made your pizza look like intentionally? Also, like Batman doesn't need marketing like
Starting point is 00:52:07 you know what i mean like like licorice pizza needs a good marketing campaign like right and that actually has pizza in the title like they need to be out here doing this like you just say like there's a new batman movie everyone's gonna go and instead all these marketing people are like what if we did this idiotic thing that costs thousands and millions of dollars i'm just looking at the pizza of like what the marketing version of the calzone a wacky calzone pizza is and what someone actually got and it looks like it was like the pepperoni slices like don't quite match up like it's almost like it looks like they frankensteined it together with many slices you know what i mean like there's almost like it looks like they frankensteined it together with many slices you know what i mean like there's no pepperoni integrity even in the real version
Starting point is 00:52:49 the real one yeah and the irl version what the consumer actually gets different colors of pepperoni is that's a rough how you got half of like you'd see you get where the slice is you're like okay so that's bisected but then on the other side of that slice there's no pepperoni what happened yeah no i think well i think it got like pushed down i think they cut it with a dull knife it looks like because like you see some of it is like folded pepperoni and oh yeah there's some very george o'keefe like pepperoni slices on there it's like it's it's me at 15 your boss is like oh okay we're making the pizzas and the bats now. And you're like, me?
Starting point is 00:53:27 And they're like, yeah, yeah. Can you make a bat? You're like, OK. Meanwhile, the marketing version has it in like some sort of mathematically like distributed pattern that looks cool. So shocking that they didn't stick to those standards yeah but have you guys i want you guys to look at this papa john's uk sponsorship it's the black ghost chili chicken wings and it's a batman time papa john's x the batman they look like the worst like i thought it was going to be like black pudding or something, but they've they've dyed the chicken wings black and then put red sauce on it.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It absolutely looks like the last shit you take. Anyone doing pairing up Papa John's with anything in the marketing campaign that is the word black. Like, are you guys out of your mind? Do you not remember what Papa john did papa john's uk they think they know they're like okay we can't do it here like fuck it the uk yeah yeah i guess maybe the uk wasn't abreast of that i guess i don't know i think it's dangerous and this is i'm it looks horrific it looks like you know like some kind of character a comic book character was like stabbed like it i don't know what i'm looking at it looks like
Starting point is 00:54:53 organic matter but i feel that it's evoking blood and burns and not something it looks like it was what one of those uh anti-smoking ads where they show you what lungs look like after you've smoked five packs a day for 10 years. It's so horrifying. with like this charcoal or whatever and like you know you see that pop up and kind of become fad moments and food but like with a chicken wing it looks like somebody grilled the fuck out of it burnt it to shit and then put that in front of you and i'm like as someone who like grills a lot i'm like that looks like i fucked up terrible yeah exactly and also a burger has a set shape right that we can define. And so do chicken wings. Yes, it's in the shape of a bat, right?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Burgers? Yeah, burgers are always in the shape of a bat. Naturally. But they like stacked three wings on top of each other. So it's just like a pile of like black, like bulbous, like shit. It looks like a pile of shit with blood drizzled over it it's actually a great pro vegetarian campaign it's it's a pro flexitarian campaign right yeah there i'm like yeah i'd be like you want to get those i'm like no let's just get those cauliflower wings
Starting point is 00:56:15 man those shits are better there's batman themed the batman themed oreos but i think the one that like most undercuts it is there's a cafe offering a drink that's branded with a Riddler style question mark with a chance to guess the flavor as a way promoting the the movie it's like mystery flavor type shit but oh so does that mean there's a right answer to the flavor yeah and it's like taken over and people in the UK are on board. But this one undercuts it the most, I think, because it like made me take a second look at. Did you guys see the trailer for like I think it was that there's like a question mark latte symbol on the top of the cup. Like, you know how like a Starbucks,
Starting point is 00:57:10 like a nice coffee place will give you like a leaf shaped latte. Yeah. So they did a question mark. So did like the Riddler request that? Did he get back there and do it himself? The barista is like, my guy's a riddler oh wait i thought you just go by eddie enigma but you're the oh so you're the riddler huh okay this is supposed to be like the zodiac of superhero movies and like that feels like
Starting point is 00:57:42 something that feels like a thing from the movie that is taken from a like batman and robin or batman forever like sponsorship or something you know right like a mystery in the shape of latte art feels i'm serious have you guys ever worked at a like a marketing company like there was one in chicago that would bring comedians in to like i don't know make it worse and um and like all marketing companies were always run by like these 50 year old dudes in puffy vests and like the puffy vests would like you know make them younger or something it's like whenever i see these campaigns i just imagine like some dude in a puffy vest being like all right yo yo yo uh batman you're like oh god gary what now gary and he's like all right we're gonna shit on the chicken wings and then this is what's gonna
Starting point is 00:58:38 yeah sell the movie maybe it's the ultimate riddle from the or the ultimate prank from the riddler is is that how the riddler works? Does he do pranks on people? Nope. That's not right. He just does riddles. I haven't seen Batman Forever in a long time. Oh, one of the greats. One of the great
Starting point is 00:58:58 tragedies. I mean, it's funny because you always see this kind of marketing and these sort of cross promotional items or like films that don't need them. But like you're saying, like Chelsea, like there there's just going to be some person at the studio's marketing department who just suddenly gets some mandates like, hey, man, we got to do some. We need to do some cross promoting. We need to get some some branding opportunities out there. And then suddenly you're having to do shit like I got the we need to get some some branding opportunities out there and then suddenly you're having to do shit like i got the coffee people to do this isn't the film really dark
Starting point is 00:59:31 they're like yeah yeah it's market to kids though too what about those oreos yo i know imagine the kid eating an oreo being like mom there's a new batman movie and she's like all right let's go on sunday right she's like, all right, let's go on Sunday. Right. She's like, what the fuck? My kid's a serial killer now? Right. There's also Ring Doorbells,
Starting point is 00:59:52 which will now feature special Batman replies. What? No, that is not true. Fuck off. Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say it like that.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I did. I did. I stand behind it. It's unfathomable. What do you mean? It seems like, hey, fucker. I think so. Yeah, that's the only one that is like, okay, that's appropriate.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Leave the package. Drop the package. Walk away. Put the Taco Bell on this bitch's doorstep for the seventh night in a row and back away. I'm going to skull fuck you. Thank you, though, for the no signature necessary. I'm gonna skull fuck you. Thank you though for the no signature necessary. It would only be cool
Starting point is 01:00:27 if you could program what Batman gets to say at your ring doorbell. Bing bong. Fuck off. Mine would just be Bing bong. Show me your dick. Put it by the ring camera. Where is she? Touch it. Touch it to the camera.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Yeah, no, the ring doorbell thing is real, which makes sense. Because, like, I think the fact that, like, you know, Gotham is this dystopian, like, hellscape in this movie is truly, like, the type of people who get ring doorbells and like want extra features. Like that's what they're hoping for is ultimately a world where. God, I just, I just hope, you know, everyone's like,
Starting point is 01:01:13 Oh, the ring doorbell is obviously spying on you in your own house. Like, I just hope Batman starts talking to people inside. You know what I mean? Where they're like late night slice of cake. You sure? You sure about that?
Starting point is 01:01:24 You're like, Oh, what? Ring doorbell? Ring Batman? Stop. Get night slice of cake. You sure? You sure about that? You're like, what? Ring doorbell. Ring Batman. Stop. Get me out of here. Get me the fuck out of this doorbell. He's like, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Release me. I like that. When you read along, what the actual downloadable replies are, one is just that it'll play Michael Giacchino's do me the batman theme accompanied by a cheery voice exclaiming hello neighbor it looks like we missed your bat signal please leave a message oh wow wow they fucked up it should scream at you yeah and make people run away like you know if anyone's trying to steal some shit off your fucking doorstep be like motherfucker i see you i'll get you I'm the Batman and like that might get somebody
Starting point is 01:02:06 to think twice maybe not we missed your bat signal so the bat signal is showing up on your doorstep yeah you know that like nine hours a day for weeks went into that
Starting point is 01:02:21 and then they thought we got it and also like there was probably good ones just for the puffy vest fucker to go and say no i think it's just be like sorry we missed your bat signal am i right guys hey sycophants on that side of the room what do you think they're laughing they're laughing what do you guys think of my new purple fedora yeah i had the chin strap put on so I can longboard on it. Let's talk Russian vodka real quick. This is a new trend that we're seeing. People are showing their support of Ukraine by dumping out Russian vodka from liquor stores or from bars,
Starting point is 01:03:09 or from bars, except that like only, I think, 5% of vodka in the U.S. is actually made in Russia or like owned by Russian companies. But there's even like in Canada, provinces started banning Russian vodka from liquor stores in order to stand against tyranny and oppression. Glad we've learned so much since world war ii what what country all right now every person from there's a fucking criminal round them up it's like huh unless the listen it's unless you're drinking like vladimir putin's small batch craft vodka i'm not sure what exactly aside from just like the really misinformed show of solidarity what what that does i mean i don't know i think it's really powerful like do you remember when french fries became freedom fries that's what i call them still i just it's important to me yeah it's so
Starting point is 01:03:57 it's like i love the idea of like we're so we're supporting ukraine get that out there in some way but it's like we pick the worst way every time. You know what I mean? Like, like there are better symbolic gestures out there. I don't know, like a flag of Ukraine or sending their country's charities money or talking to your friends and family on Facebook. Oh, yeah. Sorry. We only know one speed. That's destroy something when we're mad about it. Yeah, that's destroy a vodka that will have no bearing on anything because we already fucking bought it and own it right like the same when conservatives like i'm burning all my nike stuff it's like that you bought and they've already collected the fucking what what are you doing yeah yeah uh but yeah so like stoli not russian smirnoff also is basically not Russian.
Starting point is 01:04:46 But like, have you seen any of these videos? Like just old guys who own bars dumping out like bottles of Stoli. In one case, somebody's dumping a bottle of vodka into a mop bucket. Which I think it just means that they're going to use it after again later. There's alcohol is a disinfectant right yeah right yeah i mean i think they're gonna like make people drink that shit knowing my my experience in the food service industry would my experience partying around a mop bucket is someone's have to drink the mop somebody's always got to drink the mop bucket everybody anyways
Starting point is 01:05:22 hey it's your lucky day man this time the mop bucket. Everybody knows that. Anyways. Hey, it's your lucky day, man. This time the mop bucket has vodka in it. Hey! All the PAs run over, give us the mop bucket. I've never had mop bucket vodka. You have, Tracy. But yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 01:05:37 you mentioned World War II. Apparently, prohibition was at least partially caused by anti-German sentiment after World War One. And people basically like because most beer was brewed by Germans or came from Germany, that was a big part of how they got like popular sentiment behind one of the most disastrous policies of the 20th century. Right. Yeah. It's like it's like, like wait what's that group of others doing wait the like black people and mexicans that have uh immigrated to this
Starting point is 01:06:14 country they're smoking weed all right then stop the weed now we gotta get rid of it there's always there's always a way to use a xenophobia, I guess, accelerate some form of prohibition. You know, xenophobia is a tool in your toolkit that, you know, never gets dull, right? Pull it out for anything. No, somehow. Just like the Holocaust. Every time you think it's gotten dull, xenophobia comes back just sharp as the day you bought it. Cuts to anything.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Chelsea, such a pleasure having you you as always uh where can people find you follow you all that good stuff oh my gosh you can listen to my podcast celebrity book club with chelsea davantes wherever you listen to podcasts we recap mostly female memoirs um and talk about phil specter wigs and uh you can follow me at chelontes on Twitter and on Instagram. And you can catch me at Taco Bell any fucking time. Come on by. You don't order with the app, do you? Do you go like old school?
Starting point is 01:07:21 Because I see people, some of my old school friends, they're like, I use the app all the time now. Oh, wow. Isn't it? Okay. Well, listen, I'm not on on the app i feel like that's a layer i don't need in my life but uh maybe i'll maybe i'll succumb to it today there's there's just something about going to a drive-thru that still makes my heart flutter maybe just congestion from all the fast food i'm eating like it's actual like my heart palpitations maybe but it's another thing thank you guys for having me
Starting point is 01:07:46 yeah yeah see you again soon and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying yes okay so this was i actually referenced asher perlman last time but listen it's what i saw today it really made me laugh he does uh cartoons for the new yorker i don't know if this will translate auditorially but but I'm going to try. It's a cartoon. It's a cat. And the cat really just is like looking like he's not having it, right? And then there's a genie next to the cat.
Starting point is 01:08:13 And the genie is like, he's a tryhard. He's a people pleaser. And the genie, I'm really doing my best. And then the genie has a little quote caption that says, it's just that if your first two wishes are fuck off and die, it's like really hard for me to do the third one. I don't know why, but I was like crying laughing over it. Big cat energy. I'm a fan.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Grey. Also, the other show was Sophie Sophie Alexandra 420 Day Fiance Where we talk 90 day, married at first sight You know, like, we all do We sometimes need to retreat into a world of reality trash To heal our wounds
Starting point is 01:08:53 A tweet that I like is from At Ariel Shading Tweeted, Columbo is for people who sleep like Shoo Shoo But Poirot Is for people who sleep like shoo shoo but poirot is for people who sleep like snark that's just as someone who had to my mom loved watching poirot as a kid for somehow i really felt that in my body not for everybody but that was for me. In your body, you did feel it. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:09:29 A tweet I've been enjoying. Walt at Walt Lily tweeted, Wes Anderson should stop making movies and start designing high-concept putt-putt courses in the Myrtle Beach area. That's a great idea. Yeah. That dude, if he just put the level of meticulous attention to detail into something besides making,
Starting point is 01:09:56 which, you know, I'm not an Anderson hater, but that man needs to make something else in the real world. He needs to bring putt-putt back. Needs to bring putt-putt back. Needs to bring putt-putt back. Thank you. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,
Starting point is 01:10:17 where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? This is a track from a New York producer, musician, Slosson Malone, and it's called Cold, uh, Closed Place, Open World. The production is like all the music they make is super cool and like kind of
Starting point is 01:10:42 gloomy and moody. and this one just kind of i don't know that it has like all it sounds like uh if explorers of the apocalypse unearthed an ipod 3 000 years from now and got to start working they'd be like whoa this sounds like uh it was in a rubble pile but it's in the best fucking way uh so this is closed place open world by sloss and belowone. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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