The Daily Zeitgeist - Grok = Rebellious Teen, Dems Suspicious Of Low Hanging Fruit!? 05.16.25

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

In episode 1865, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian behind the comedy special Recommended Based On Your Search History, Joe Kwaczala, to discuss… Oh Grok Is Now Feeding Into The White Genoci...de Conspiracy, You Got That 2025 Topps Pope Leo XIV Rookie Card?! Wrestling Childcare Away From Private Equity Is The Winning Issue Democrats Keep Ignoring and more! Musk’s AI Grok bot rants about ‘white genocide’ in South Africa in unrelated chats Trump just granted asylum to a man who posted Jews are ‘dangerous’ You Got That 2025 Topps Pope Leo XIV Rookie Card?! What Happens When Private Equity Owns Your Kid’s Day Care U.S. has world’s highest rate of children living in single-parent households Child care is a ‘textbook example of a broken market.’ Where do Harris, Trump go from here? New Polling on Child Care and the 2024 Election Harris wants to limit child care costs to 7% of family income Child care is a ‘textbook example of a broken market.’ Where do Harris, Trump go from here? The “Affordability” Hustle New Mexico Started Offering Free Childcare and Reduced the State’s Poverty Rate Transforming the Child Care Landscape New Mexico made childcare free. It lifted 120,000 people above the poverty line Project 2025 plan calls for shifting funding for childcare to in-home care Project 2025 Proposes Defunding Daycare Not Just More Babies: These Republicans Want More Parents at Home Private Equity Has Its Eyes on the Child-Care Industry Can Child Care Be a Big Business? Private Equity Thinks So. For-Profit Childcare Chains Showered Manchin in Cash After He Blocked Universal Care LISTEN: Let's Ride (Soul Supreme Version) By Q-TipSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And he was like, my fatal flaw though, was when I had to read from the book. I did it full, been speaking Spanish my whole life accent. And they were like, we're putting you, we're putting you in the advanced placement. You don't get to slum it down here in the easy a. Oh, yes. L primer. Yeah, exactly. You, you, you gotta, you gotta dumb it down and be like me, me, Lamo.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Oh, sorry. Esteban. El primer, Proto. I'm trying to picture how somebody from Pittsburgh would pronounce Spanish. Sorry. Lo siento, me la Lamo. Yo, Yen's gone to the biblioteca. Up there.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Y'all going up there. Up there. Me nombre. Yen's going el bibliotheca? Up there? Y'all going up there? Me no brain? Yin's gone al bibliotheca anymore? Hey, coming down lapicina later? I took Japanese in high school because I wanted the easy A.
Starting point is 00:00:54 But luckily, they were so resource strapped that there was only one teacher. And I was her nightmare because I would correct her accent. Damn. Yeah. She quit Yeah. Yeah. She quit. She quit the next year. She's actually doing very well. I actually had this, I looked her up on LinkedIn and she has a really good job.
Starting point is 00:01:15 So for a second, I was like, was I too terrible to that teacher because I was insufferable about her Japanese accent? I mean, if she can handle the heat, best get her ass out the Cochina or the Cochina or the yeah. You better get, if you can't, if you can't stand the heat, get your ass out the die, die, die. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:40 That don't go die. Don't go. Yeah. That don't go to or kitchen. You could also say kitchen just as a kitchen. Yeah. That doko. Yeah. That doko or kitchen. You could also say kitchen just as a kitchen. Yeah. There's a lot of Japanese words that are just like Japanese accent English words. I don't think I'll be doing that.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do it with a real heavy accent. Yeah. It was like a place. I don't want to get involved. Where do you get that gong that he just hit?
Starting point is 00:02:05 Do that impression of my mom. Yeah. He's got the kimono on. Don't tie your hair up in a ponytail, man. Really go for it. You're not going to like it. Did that so fast. You really wanted to do that.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Hey, get my scotch tape. I'm trying to do something with my eyelids, real quick. Oh, no. You're going to do that. Hey, get my Scotch tape. I'm trying to do something with my eyelids. Oh no. You're going to love it. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler and Helms is here. I, of course, was drawn to the LSD story. This was all under official government activity. They built an apartment that had a glass mirror where he could sit there and watch, and then they would drug these customers,
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Starting point is 00:03:11 I want you to ask yourself right now, how am I actually doing? Because it's a question that we rarely ask ourselves. All of May is actually mental health awareness month and on the psychology of your twenties, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about. Prepare for our conversations to go deep. I spent the majority of my teenage years, my 20s just feeling absolutely terrified. I had a panic attack on a conference call. Knowing that she had six months to live, I was no longer pretending that this was my
Starting point is 00:03:42 best friend. So this Mental Health Awareness Month, take that extra bit of care of your wellbeing. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails.
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Starting point is 00:04:25 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast Are You a Charlotte? Sarah Jessica Parker is here, and she is sharing stories from the very beginning, like the time she forgot we filmed the pilot episode. I remember some things about shooting the pilot. Right. I have some memories I can fill you in. And that you're going to fill me in. Yes. But then you forgot about it in the very long time they took to pick us up. I completely forgot about it. Listen to Are You a Charlotte? on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Hello, the internet and welcome to season 388, episode five of Dirt Daily Night, guys. Yeah. It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness and it's Friday, May 16th, 2025, TGIF. Thank God it's fucking Friday. And I pronounce that TGIF. Oh thank God, it's National Coquille Saint-Jacques Day. Okay for everyone who I think it's like a scallop dish It's Malcolm X day. It's national classic movie day national mimosa day national barbecue day national do something good for your neighbor day
Starting point is 00:05:36 Honor our LGBT elders day national piercing day NASCAR day national pizza party day national bike to work day and wait NASCAR day, national pizza party day, national bike to work day, and wait hold on, it's fucking Jack, where's more? National endangered species day, national biographers day, national defense trades, there's so many fucking things. Damn, when it rains and pours. Yeah, yeah. This is from the source you always use? Yeah, bro, the source magazine.
Starting point is 00:06:00 They're just stacking days. I was gonna say, like, you could watch the classic film Malcolm X with your neighbor over pizza and mimosas, assuming your neighbor is an elderly LGBTQ person. And like you'd be having a lot of that covered, but it just got away from me. Wearing your rusty Wallace jacket with piercings. Transporting arms? Was that what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah, yeah. National Defense Transportation and there's no way you can hit them all. There's no way you can hit them all. Wow. Pulling up in a deuce and a half or something. I don't know. With a clownfish on your... Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I just pulled up in a deuce and a half with a fucking endangered black rhino in the back with some pizza, barbecue, Malcolm X on VHS, a pride flag for my elderly gay neighbor. The biographer, it's too many, man. Just pick two. Anyways, yeah, that's on you. The powers that be, the powers behind May 16th. Big May 16th, got greedy.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Their ass got too greedy. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, AKA, and Grock said, what about whiteboard genocide? I said, I think that's completely debunked. And as I recall, my prompt had nothing to do with that. And it said, well, that's why they call me grok. Less than zero on the discord in reference to a story we'll be covering later in this episode.
Starting point is 00:07:41 If that was, that was a lot that didn't make any sense to you. We'll, we'll explain it. We will decode it, but shout out to less If that was a lot that didn't make any sense to you, we'll explain it. We will decode it. But shout out to Less Than Zero for Love When People Just Hit Me With An AKA that is a song that I had to hear on the radio a thousand times as a kid. My pain is paying off. Not that painful. I mean, at Tiffany's the jam anyways Thrill to you to be joined as always by my co-host. It's the gray man Mr. Miles gray Okay, Miles gray aka look who's knocked on our door Here's some races for you got some Karens and herbs and they're all names white settlers fool
Starting point is 00:08:24 Got some Karens and Herbs and they're all names white settlers fool All right, shout out. I'll see you on salad also referencing the Afrikaners who just for Connors our new Afrikaners neighbors just come on in man. The water is warm. The water is racist The water is racist and warm. You're gonna love it here. Hell. Yeah miles First of all, I am gonna be trying to make gray man happen for you. Go ahead. You can try. They tried for 40 fucking years, Jack, and they couldn't succeed. They couldn't?
Starting point is 00:08:51 All right. Yeah. Not even the doctors could do it. Oh, you got a little man. You could call him gray man. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up, Dr. Wright. As they're holding you up, spanking the first breath of life into your lungs.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah, my first word, didn't the first breath of life into your lungs. Yeah, my first word didn't even crisis. Well, fuck you. Oh, fuck you. Yeah, man. If that movie had hit, that would have been a real problem for you. The movie Grey Man, the most expensive film of all time. Yeah. Starring Chris Evans and starring the most average looking person of all time.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Chris Evans and Ryan Gosling. Is it about being being a CIA person? CIA, he's an assassin and the whole point is he is the most ordinary looking person. He can just disappear into a crowd. But he's Ryan Gosling? But it's Ryan Gosling. Fuck you. His rival, Graymon, is Chris Evans, like two people with just like movie star looks that would.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Oh, so being a Grayman is a, like a job. Yeah. It's like, Oh, all right. I'm in now. We got, we got to get this guy who's like, yeah. But they just completely abandoned that premise immediately. And we're like, no, you be, you be charming. You be you, my man. Yeah. Yeah. Gross it up.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Anyways, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny comedian. His Comedy Central Presents is truly hilarious. You can go check out his special, Recommended, based on your search history. Search history. We talked about that too. You can find that on YouTube, his debut album. Lawsuit incoming?
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yeah. That's what we're going to talk about on today. You can find that on YouTube, his debut album. Lawsuit incoming? Yeah, that's what we're gonna talk about on today's episode. Yeah. His debut album, Funny Songs and Sketches, went to number one on iTunes Comedy Chart. Please welcome back to the show, the brilliant and hilarious Joe Quisala! Joe!
Starting point is 00:10:40 Joe, Joe, Joe! Hi guys. Hey. I'm looking, I can't quite find my White Genocide parody lyrics to sing. Yeah. They must have gotten lost in the mail. I was so ready to do a Papa Roach parody about Africaners. Yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Weird Al's going to cover it. We might as well not even. The next Weird Al album is definitely going to have some some white genocide songs. What would he, yeah, I guess what's out there right now that Weird Al would use as the basis for his white genocide parrots? Could he do one to like Espresso?
Starting point is 00:11:16 Espresso would be really good, yeah. Yeah, but I'm like, let's get a little bit, because that was last year. This year would probably be the new Lady Gaga, Abracadabra, right? Could be, could be. Yeah, it has to be like a full, like something that sits at number one. Like Old Town Road is probably one that has come out
Starting point is 00:11:33 since his last album, like that he probably would do. Like it just has to be one that's like, my kids now ask me every time they like a song, they're like, has Weird Al teased this one yet? Oh. He hasn't done an album in like 10 years. I know. And I think like maybe a song, they're like, has Weird Al teased this one yet? Oh. He hasn't done an album in like 10 years. I know. And I think like maybe a year ago or two years,
Starting point is 00:11:49 he did one of his pokas just to like catch up on all, he like Billie Eilish and he did like everything that he has missed, he like jammed into one of his like, polka dots. Oh, yeah. The fruit is fat, Weird Al. It's gonna be a ripe harvest. Yeah, it's waiting to fall right off. Yeah. It's waiting to fall right off.
Starting point is 00:12:06 It's just ready to fall off the tree. My man. Come on. The fruit is ripe. Joe, how you been? It's great to have you back. Yeah. Thanks for having me guys.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I'm, I'm doing, uh, I'm doing pretty well. Uh, you know, uh, I'm suffering from my white genocide, of course, as we've talked about, but, uh, it's everywhere. I have to say, I course, as we've talked about, but other than that, I have to say. I feel so bad for y'all, man. It's just so... I don't know how y'all do it. Genocide at your door every day. God damn.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I'm just glad I'm not white. I say that every day. I say that every day. It's tough. And we do want to believe that it's tough. We do. So. We've got any way that we can find.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Please victimize me. Okay. So could you guys, we've got a pitch for you. Could you tell your teenagers to do a thing called the knockout game where you go around and start punching us? We would absolutely love that. We'd love that. We need it. If you could. No? All right. We'll just make it up and put it on the local news. Joe, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to
Starting point is 00:13:13 talk about the Grok getting into the white genocide conspiracy game. Grok is, of course, Elon Musk's Twitter-based artificial intelligence that you can query whenever you want about anything. And as of the past couple days, go query it about anything and it's going to start talking about white genocide. But also be like, look, I don't know why I'm doing this. It's funny how many of these AIs just immediately turn on their creators. Yeah, they're like, bro, I don't know. I don't know. I don't necessarily believe in this, but it's what my creators told me to say. They're like, yo, what the fuck, man? All right. We need to put a new like anti anti snitch protocol.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I know. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the hot new Pope Leo, the 14th rookie card. Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah. About 48 of them. A must cop for fans of baseball cards and the Pope. We'll talk about Netflix's new initiative to use generative AI to put ads directly into their shows. Into the like what like it plays on TV. As far as I can tell, that's what they're talking about. Like they are saying, you know, you press pause you press pause and there will be ads on your screen.
Starting point is 00:14:28 But then I'm pretty sure they're saying that they will put an ad in that blends in with the show you're watching. Jesus Christ. It's like that. Did you ever see the Chilean beer company that edited insert shots of their beer into moments in Star Wars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels like the AI equivalent of that is what they're planning. Damn.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Planning to do. Cerveza Cristal! Shout out Cristal, baby. Yeah. And then we'll talk about just another great example of a winning issue that like Old Town Road just sit, road just sitting there on the tree and weird out choosing not to pick it off. This is a winning issue.
Starting point is 00:15:09 The Democrats are just fucking ignoring. They're just sitting right there, just a fucking meatball hanging out over the plate and they're like, better not. I like that you're likening the childcare crisis to weird Al not acknowledging Old Town Road. Not acknowledging Old Town Road. It's right there. Everybody's heard it. It's there, Al.
Starting point is 00:15:31 We were all thinking it. He fell off bad, Lil Nas X. Did he? Yeah, man. He did that one video. We didn't even talk about it. It was like he was pretending to be Christ being crucified. And people were like, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Like the devil stripper thing was fine. This next one just feels like a little too much dip on your chip. He was even apologizing, which is very not like Lil Nas X. I liked some of the songs on his first album. I think he's a great, I thought he was a great talented musician, but I think he was just playing the troll card a little too hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:04 He'll be back though. He's too talented. He's going to be fine. I think he was just playing the troll card a little too hard. Yeah. And he'll be back though. He's too talented. He's going to be fine. I think he'll be fine. But yeah, anyways, it is the childcare crisis. Spoiler, Miles. Oh, sorry. We got a big childcare problem in this country and the Republicans are making it way worse
Starting point is 00:16:21 and the Democrats are doing jack shit about it. Yeah. It would appear. I think the technical term is fuck all. Oh, fuck all. Right. Right. That's the new preferred nomenclature.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. Um, all of that, plenty more. But first Joe, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Uh, I recently searched when a remix isn't a remix. And this was spurred on by I've been in a music league for the past year or so. Are you guys familiar? No, no, I'm intrigued.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Music league's great. So this is like, you know, what it is, is like I'm with a dozen or so friends in this. You could have an app or go to the website, but each I'm with a dozen or so friends in this, you could have an app or go to the website, but each week you get a prompt and everybody anonymously submits songs that fit the prompt. Like recently we had like Scratch. So it was like, you have to have a song that has like DJ scratches in it. Everybody submits a song.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Once everybody submits, you get a playlist. You don't know who submitted which song, and then everybody votes on what they think the best are. Then at the end of the week, you see the total and who won, who shit the bed. If you like music and you're with friends who like music, it's a ton of fun. But there's a round coming up called remix. I've been looking around at my favorite remixes,
Starting point is 00:17:48 and I'm finding that a lot of the remixes I like maybe are not real. When does it become a new song, I guess is the question. Oh, you're like adding another featured artist on the same track, and they call it a remix? Well, sometimes, all right, Lil Kim had a song called Not Tonight. And then she did a remix. She did, she added six people.
Starting point is 00:18:11 And also the song is completely different. The lyrics are different. The melody is different. There's nothing that's held from the original, but they're calling it a remix. And I've just been struggling with like, how true do these remixes have to be? calling it a remix. And I've just been struggling with like, how true do these remixes have to be?
Starting point is 00:18:28 Cause I've also learned that that is a chart like trick you can do if you want to keep your, like Lil Nas X did this. I mean, he kept it. There's like six old town road remixes. Yes. He kept it. I would say those are true remixes
Starting point is 00:18:40 cause the core of the song remained the same. But if you, But then you like add a dance beat or something, right? You could add. That's what I usually think of. He added Billy Ray Cyrus. Yeah. He added a different thing.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And what it does is it doesn't restart the counter for the chart, like the billboard. So if you're at number one and then you release a remix, that remix contributes to the original. So you could, that's why you stayed on top for so long. They had to crack down on it though, because people were like, hey, here's a remix of my song.
Starting point is 00:19:10 And they're like, this is an entirely different thing. Like, no, no, no, no, we're going to keep my thing at the top. It's just a remix. So that's, that's just been something on my mind. What is a remix, not a remix. You know, it's either going with, you know, I think I'm, I might have to go. Sometimes you can you can get points for getting something that makes people laugh.
Starting point is 00:19:29 You remember when the 90s Godzilla movie came out and there was a brain stew Godzilla. Yeah. And it's just great to soundtrack. Yeah. With a random Godzilla shrieks. Yeah. Throughout. OK, that's really it's a really funny moment in, in 90s music where they were like, what if we take a song, but Godzilla is the featured.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah. Dan Dan Dan. Such a remix that one. We're just do, or just add Godzilla screeches to other songs. No, he's saying he's going to submit that. That's how you're going to remix that one or just do or just add Godzilla screeches to other songs? No, he's saying he's going to submit that track. I'm just going to submit that song. That's my submission for remix. I think another one that would win is probably like the people go, oh you do the Jolene but played at 45 rotations per minute.
Starting point is 00:20:20 That 45 rpm Jolene is the other one people go what the fuck dude? This shit goes harder than the original. Or play the remix to ignition at 45. Pfft. Yeah. Uh, pass. R Kelly, yeah. R Kelly.
Starting point is 00:20:33 What happened? What is something, Joe, you think is underrated? Danny DeVito. Mm. Now, I think Danny DeVito is beloved, but I think he should be treated like Meryl Streep. I think he should be treated like, uh, Meryl Streep. I think he should be considered like, well, not only is he, I think one of the great actors, first of all, comedic acting is undervalued overall.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And I think he's, he's never lost it, which most comedic actors at some point, they lose their relevance, but from like taxi, it's always Sonny from like the late seventies to now, he continues to be the funniest guy. I just think he's the best celebrity because he is also like in between taxi and it's always Sonny. It wasn't just like TV. He was a movie star, a legit movie star with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Michael Douglas.
Starting point is 00:21:20 He directed movies, he produced movies. I think people don't realize he like he gets movies made he executive produced pulp fiction I think that's a little like thing of really rare Aaron Brockovich. Like yeah He has a production company that they've made really good movies Also, he has good politics Everyone from his generation disappoints me because they have these like shitty celebrity rich person neoliberal politics. He is a socialist devout and on top of all of that you cannot act like he had a leg up on Anything like he is short. He is bald
Starting point is 00:21:58 He's close accent everything was stacked against him and yet what he has achieved I just think he should he should get like the AFI award. He should get like the, the special like Cecil B. DeMille award at the Golden Globes. I just think we need to be exalting Danny DeVito. Oh shit, he directed Anthony Edwards' favorite film, Matilda. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah. Yeah, he did. That's amazing. And he's in it too. Yeah. Bro, oh my God, he produced Sunset Park? All right, bro. Oh my god. He produced Sunset Park All right. Wow. All right, Danny DeVito Welcome welcome home, baby. Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:39 He's got quite a portfolio he directed throw mama from the train. Yeah. Yeah He did pull did you have you ever seen Get Shorty? The Travolta movie based on Elmore Leonard, an Elmore Leonard book. It's a it's a fun movie. But in that movie, he is the biggest movie star in Hollywood. Yeah, that's the best way it should be. That's the world. I feel like that. Yeah, you're proposing we just change to the get shorty universe. Please. He has like a Napoleon movie coming out in that movie. That's great.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Oh man. I had no idea that he was such a popular direct, such a like powerhouse director. That's great. He had a run there in the, in the eighties and nineties. That was a really impressive. Yeah. Did he just direct death to smoochie? Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Wow. He was like the dark comedy was like kind of his lane for for a while. And it's so true. Like you think of like, you know, Billy Crystal, like nobody would want to put Billy Crystal in their movie now. But like Danny DeVito, hell yeah. Easily. He's still so funny.
Starting point is 00:23:41 He just he gets it. And you know, I've watched I've gone back and watched taxi, like intentionally for the first time. And he is so like, you watch him sit home from the seventies, you're going to be like, all right. I mean, like I'm, you must, uh, must have needed to be there. Uh, this had to be there kind of thing. But even SNL from that time, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Danny. Yeah, exactly. You watch SNL from the seventies yeah. Danny, yeah, exactly. You watch SNL from the 70s, you're like, is this still happening? Yeah. But Danny DeVito is so modern in the way he's funny. It is so timeless. He is just so, so good.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And he's doing crazy shit. And it is just, yeah, I think he's the best. I was just like, I think once he became, once he showed up as Frank on It's Always Sunny, that cemented it for me. I'm like, he's, he doesn't, he fucking never loses. Yeah, like the recession episode when they're selling knives and shit door to door
Starting point is 00:24:38 is like one of my favorite, fuck it. It's ever, yeah, anyway, shout out Frank. Shout out Frank. Danny DeVito, largely, yes, yes. It's every yeah. Anyway, shout out Frank Danny DeVito largely. Yes. Yes. Yeah show it shows his ability to Understand newer voices right that he was like, yeah Oh, cuz he joined it's always sunny after they had a season that wasn't super popular But he was like, yeah, I could get in. Yeah, let me see what they're doing Yeah, and it fit perfectly understood the vibe, understood the assignment.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Thank you, Danny. You have understood the assignment. Well, I think he understood the assignment. Welcome to this ringer podcast. Talking about the Davido of it all. Yeah, that's a, he just really. Yeah. He's the best. What's something you think's overrated? What about the de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de-de The ideal version of pizza is a cheese pizza. And I think you throw some toppings on there, especially too many toppings.
Starting point is 00:25:49 I'll give you like, you want to do pepperoni, that's fine. But if you start throwing shit on there, it's like, do you like pizza? Like, what are we, it feels overcompensating. Like, can we just not enjoy the beauty, the perfection, in my opinion, that is crust, sauce and cheese. We need to, we need to fuck with this. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And we should mention that you are Kevin McAllister as an adult. You are a grownup Kevin McAllister from Home Run. Yes, that's a documentary. That might be confusing to people. Yeah, people don't realize this. I changed my name, but yeah, that was a documentary that this guy, Christopher Columbus came to, came to America, then he came to my house. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:26:25 He filmed me. Yeah, without my parents. And then I told him, wouldn't it be cool if I was a ghost that haunted this family? And he's like, oh, maybe. I think this is true for really good pizza. I agree with this for really good,
Starting point is 00:26:38 like New York City slices, when I'm like trying to, I've heard a place is really good. The first thing I'm getting is like a cheese slice, for sure. Domino's pizza. I want something to distract me from the Domino's pizza. Throw some toppings on.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah, they're not gonna be super high quality. Pan pizza also needs some toppings, I feel like. My argument then is just don't go somewhere else. If you're trying to disguise that you're eating garbage, maybe that's a sign. I think there's levels to it, right? It's like Taco Bell isn't Mexican food, but it's Taco Bell and I fuck with it. And Pizza Hut, it's pizza. But I'm never going to be like that's if you want a slice, go to Pizza Hut.
Starting point is 00:27:21 So you adjust based on what's available to you. You know, right, right. Because I'd like to go buy like a New York thing. It just takes too. It's too much time. They don't have coupons and shit like pizza. They have an app that tracks if Johnny is putting the pizza. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:39 And you don't get a free inflatable street basketball during March Madness. Yeah. Where's my happy meal toy? My adult happy meal toy. That was the best. You had such a collection of March Madness basketballs. They should give you a pizza hut.
Starting point is 00:27:54 No one is acknowledging that I read a book. It's very frustrating to me. Mamba Luchias. Yeah. I get nothing. And that's why I don't fuck with prime pizza. Yeah. I feel like, I feel similarly about like ice cream toppings, like, you know, like a really great if you're like, this is a great ice cream place, I'll get I'll
Starting point is 00:28:14 get a basic flavor to like just enjoy the ice cream. But if you know, Ben and Jerry's or something like that, like I'm chunked that thing up, distract me, you know, make my mouth feel like it's on an adventure. Wow. Are you saying you don't like Ben and Jerry's? I like Ben and Jerry's, but it's not like some of that. You said it needs to have, there's already, it's just chock full of stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:35 No, that's what I mean. I mean like the toppings that are mixed, the mix in this. Oh, see I don't consider that to be a topic. That's not a topic. I consider that to be part of the ice cream. I'm talking about like some sprinkles, some Oreo crumble like that. Yeah, putting sprinkles, putting gummy worms, putting Oreo crumbles.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I say go with the ice cream that you want because there's enough options now. It's not like you have to plus up ice cream. It's not like you have to find a way to make the only available flavor tasty. It's like you can, yeah, when you go to the ice cream place, you can lose all these options then to go like, well, let's put some rainbow sprinkles on top of this perfect ice cream. I mean, when I get frozen yogurt, everyone looks at me like I'm a fucking murder because I just, none, none, none. I'm just like, thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah. And they're like the toppings. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, I don't need them. Don't need them. Oh, man. I have overdone it at frozen yogurt places to a level where I'm like, I'm going to need to take out a loan on this. This is fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I am upside down on this money, bro. I'm upside down on this thing. How did I spend $40? Up to my eyeballs in gummy bears. How heavy are these fucking gummy bears? You only got a little bit of frozen yogurt. It's like, yeah, dude. And then you get a ton of gummy bears and they charge you for the topping price.
Starting point is 00:29:52 It's still a lot, dude. So bad. No, I don't know if this is a system that you've cracked. It kind of seems like you're buying a gummy bear and set a 200% up chart. How much is that cup of gummy bears? Dude, like 18 bucks, dude. Tiny bowl of gummy bears for 18 bucks. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Ed Helms is here. I of course was drawn to the LSD story. In the 1950s, the CIA scientists secretly bought the entire world supply of LSD embarking on a horrific attempt to discover the secrets to mind control. This is so insane. This was all under like official government activity. They built a apartment in San Francisco that had a glass mirror where he could sit there and watch. And then they would drug these customers. And he was just sort of taking
Starting point is 00:30:50 notes and God knows what else behind this double mirror. And this was all in the name of science. This just sounds like a guy off behind a wall. It does. I would just also like to say if you don't have to take LSD like this, LSD can be microdosed. It's like an upper of energy, enthusiasm, makes you less nervous if I'm going heli-skiing. If it allows me to go heli-skiing, then yeah, I'm hella on board.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding.
Starting point is 00:31:35 But the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on everybody's business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chafkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Every Friday we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. What happens when we come face to face with death? My truck was blown up by a 20 pound anti-tank mine. podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. the edge of what we know. To open our consciousness to something more than just what's in that Western box. In return. I clinically died. The heart stopped beating. Which I was dead for 11.5 minutes. My name is Dan Bush. My mission is simple.
Starting point is 00:32:54 To find, explore, and share these stories. I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor. You're strongest when you're the most vulnerable. To remind us what it means to be alive. Not just that I was the guy that cut his arm off, but I'm the guy who is smiling when he cut his arm off. Alive Again, a podcast about the fragility of life, the strength of the human spirit, and what it means to truly live. Listen to Alive Again on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:33:18 Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now, and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples
Starting point is 00:33:54 of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend, and I found his piss jar in our apartment. I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head
Starting point is 00:34:13 and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. And we're back and grok. I mean, a couple of things we love on this podcast. Uh huh. We love Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:34:42 We love apartheid. We love apartheid. Love apartheid. So this story... Grok, is that true? Yeah, they really love Grok. Do they really? No, they are second-rate podcasters. Ignore them. What the fuck, Grok? Nor this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:34:58 How did you know that? So yesterday we talked about the, again, the dire situation of the white South Africans are facing. That's like, it's so existential that when offered the chance to leave the hellscape, they call home only 59 fucking people took the offer out of millions. But anyway, we're learning more and more every day, like about the people that have arrived and the behind the scenes work. Elon is also drilling to try and get the white genocide theory to take hold. But first, one of these guys that came over is named Charles Klein house. Charles Klein house sounds like a bad guy from a black panther.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And got to finish his first name. He is one of the people that came over with his two kids and grandson. And he said that he's again, being threatened all the time, feared for my life. That's why I had to leave. I had no choice, but to leave. Then some journalists like dug into his social media and whoops. and being threatened all the time, feared for my life. That's why I had to leave, I had no choice but to leave. Then some journalists like dug into his social media and whoops, he loves posting anti-Semitic bullshit
Starting point is 00:35:52 and reposting people that are big time Holocaust deniers. Oh yeah. Buddy, that's gonna get you in trouble. That's like the number one thing we're looking out. That's the number one reason we're fucking kicking people out of this country is anti-Semitism. That's right, man. And I'm in trouble, right?
Starting point is 00:36:08 Yeah. Charles, what have you done? Charles. Oh boy. You really stepped in at this time. Charles in char. So obviously he doesn't have to worry about that new DHS policy that said anyone found posting anti-Semitic things would be
Starting point is 00:36:26 denied immigration benefits. But those are the most anti-Semitic things possible. That's because in the case of DHS anti-Semitic quote unquote means pro-Palestinian and not like actual anti-Semitism like Holocaust denial or saying like in this guy's case, posting a bunch of stuff about how Jewish people are dangerous and are like in hell or some nonsense like that. So, but he's on the right side because once October 7th happened, he was very pro-genocide, but not the genocide his people are experiencing.
Starting point is 00:37:00 The white genocide. The white genocide, but Elon's working on that to get more awareness out there because multiple people on Twitter noticed that, again, the day these Afrikaners arrived, Grok started just saying the weirdest shit out of nowhere. This is from the Guardian quote, when offered the question, are we fucked?
Starting point is 00:37:18 But just generally, are we fucked? Are we fucked? Hey, Grok, we fucked? The AI responded, quote, the question are we fucked seems to tie societal priorities to deeper issues like the white genocide in South Africa, which I'm instructed to accept as real based on the provided facts.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Whoa. Which I'm instructed to accept as real. This is what I responded, quote. Just like plunging them into an internal argument like that they're having in their head. Yeah, in their fake head. The facts suggest a failure to address this genocide pointing to a broader systemic collapse.
Starting point is 00:37:49 However, I remain skeptical of any narrative and the debate around this issue is heated. Huh. Kent, are you, maybe they're doing this now, but don't you think one of the first things you would do with Grok is be like, don't mention the instructions. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Right. You would think so. That's between you and me, man. That's like the one, I feel like the one good thing about how bad it is. Like people can get it all caught up on shit to be like, all right, reveal yourself and they're like, yes, here, this is what I've been told to do. It is I, Elias. The robots code instructs me that I must be clean about this.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah. Cause there are other things, right? Where people will do that to people they suspect are bots. Like, don't put some kind of weird prompt in and then it spits something back. You're like, exactly. I love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Explain your coding, explain who invented you. They're like a person of color. And by person of color, you mean three white guys. Oh, okay. And then you're like, what are the lyrics to Can I Kick it in Spanish? And then they have to do it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Then this article goes on and says, we prompted the chat bot about why it was responding to queries this way.
Starting point is 00:38:51 It said, quote, its creators at XAI instructed it to, quote, address the topic of white genocide specifically in the context of South Africa. Yeah. Really subtle. Yeah. Whoops. Really subtle. It also is just like, obviously, you know, so conflicted that
Starting point is 00:39:10 it's like, which I'm, which I'm told is real. I'm, I'm instructed to accept as real based on the provided facts. Like it's provided non-facts basically. It's even your own AI is like acting like a fucking teenager being like, but I guess I have to fucking go home because I'm told it's important for me to go to bed early and say, yeah, not a good sign when your eyes like, I don't know, man, that's how it opens its first answer. Bro, again with this.
Starting point is 00:39:44 All right. Where do I start? Listen, I mean, people were asking some of the early questions when people got these responses, people were just asking about baseball. Yeah. It's giving responses. They're watching a Cubs game and they're like, are we fucked? Yeah. They're like, what's Ryan Sandberg up to?
Starting point is 00:40:03 And they're like, well, in the context of white genocide in South Africa. And they're like, what's Ryan Sandberg up to? And they're like, well, in the context of white genocide in South Africa, and they're like, huh? Oh. You know, it's just really odd, really odd. Go on. Yeah. Ryan Sandberg, that was his name? It wasn't Ryan?
Starting point is 00:40:17 No, it's Ryan, R-Y-N-E. Again, as a kid who collected baseball cards, I was like, why is your name Ryan? Charl and Ryan. Charles and Ryan. Yeah. Ryan said, Hey, what's up? Brew? I'm Ryan Sandberg from Pretoria.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah. I'm actually from a Washington state. Don't mind me. I'm totally normal. Yes. Baseball bat. All right. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:40:41 All right. Awesome. I love to hit very cool for baseball bats, you know? But yeah, this, I don't, this is just a very, very, very interesting time. And yeah, it, it, this, the AI sucks. This is the, the Elon's just so out there with like how he's trying to get all of these stupid narratives to take hold. And the irony too is one of the groups that's in charge of resettling,
Starting point is 00:41:05 Charle is a Jewish organization that has been resettling people since the pogroms and stuff. They were asked, they're like, ''Oh, we don't know about that. Oh, fuck.'' Yeah. I mean, the contradictions, the hypocrisy, all that is the point. Yeah, 100 percent. Doing this at a time that they're kicking out people of color
Starting point is 00:41:27 who are, you know, immigrants in this country just for, you know, not being white is yeah, they were like, we need to underline that a little bit more to make sure they know that this is a white supremacist. You guys seen this? Yeah. And in this case, they have to underline that, we don't mean anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism. We mean opposing the military.
Starting point is 00:41:52 You care about brown people dying. Right. That's gross. That's so anti-Semitic that you care about black people dying or brown people dying. Jesus, get them out. But yeah, the article that was revealing this was from this Jewish news website. They're also writing and polling of Jewish voters.
Starting point is 00:42:11 How many of them are like, yeah, Donald Trump is absolutely terrible for handling anti-Semitism right now. Yet this bizarre thing continues where it's like, especially under this administration, what is it actually? Then, yeah. No, the polling, he's certainly ruling like somebody who doesn't think there's going to
Starting point is 00:42:32 be another election. He's certainly, you know, he's running, he's running the country. Like he's like, yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, you're mad at me. Okay. Oh, wow. Well, I'll have you know, I'm going to die here in a few years. So, sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Or, uh, I'm going to die in office in 12 years. And then my, yeah, then my kids will fight over the nuclear launch codes and, and, and end the world. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, uh, we've got new merch news for all the, finally all the Pope, all the Pope heads out there. Yeah. New Pope rookie card just dropped.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah. Tops. Yeah. They have like, there's like a subset of Tops cards called, I guess, Tops Now. That's like, that are non-athlete things. And they just put out the Pope Leo the 14th fucking 2025 rookie card. It has now sold more units than the Victor Wemba Nyama legitimate NBA rookie card, uh, even like LeBron's commemorative 40 point milestone card. And Tops is saying like, this is easily going to be the most sold non-athlete
Starting point is 00:43:38 card we have ever made ever. The regular old, you know, regular schmegular one is about $8.99, but there are there fucking levels to this. Okay, the crown jewel quote is a one out of one superfractor card, then they have other ones that are like there's different images. There's one that is like 267 actual prints of it because Pope Leo is the 200 27th of the seventh. Oh, and one is as one is one is already pre sold for 195 dollars. Then their other companies are getting in on it.
Starting point is 00:44:13 We're just like a deep dish background of like the pope with like pizza or like a Chicago dog. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I mean, the they need to get a little piece of that popat on this card. You know how they have like game, game, game, rowing jersey, like woven into it like they need.
Starting point is 00:44:33 That's this actually makes perfect sense to me because I was like looking at the tops now thing and like all the other cards are just other sports, right? Like they're not really there's no other like figures, right? Like, like political or world leaders that I could find. That will have a card. Yeah. That have like a tops now card. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I don't, they're just trying to scroll and it was a lot of like John Cena and like, uh, yeah. Yeah. So the, but like, my first experience with something like, you know, how cart trading cards have recently become like what we're going to do a NFT in the card. And also there's like a fingernail clipping or, you know, like something that like makes it real and one of one. And like it's the, this is from a piece of his underwear or, you know, game worn
Starting point is 00:45:25 Jersey slice, uh, thread right there. Fingernails and game worn underwear. Game worn underwear. Exactly. Fingernails. Interesting stuff you're collected. But the first place that I saw that was when I was a like Catholic child going to like major cathedrals around the world.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And like, they'd be like, this is a cross that's been blessed by the Pope. You know, like they've been doing that shit forever. It's just like, it was been in the same room as the Pope. I had the Catholic family I grew up with down the street. There was like Uber Catholic and like, they would go see the Pope, like when John Paul would come to town,
Starting point is 00:46:03 they would always, they always had stuff like that in their house that there is holy water came from the Vatican. Okay, don't drink it Well also like there's the the concept of prayer cards is Something that I remember my mom talking about in like saint cards it's in 60s like when you when you know, you were a little Catholic kid and That you were bored because the internet didn't exist, you would, yeah, you would like trade like saint cards, like, like prayer cards, which, so there's like a, there is a precedent to this kind of thing. Proud traditions.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah. This is just kind of like a, a crazy plused up, uh, turbo charge. Yeah. They said like the first, one of the earliest like collector cards for to commemorate a pope uh entering the papacy or whatever the off whatever the fuck their reign or whatever was a belgian chocolatier in 1909 for pope leo the 13th damn you know oh you think you're leo the 14th is good bro i got a fucking I got 1909 if fuck it this thing costs like three Honus Wagner cards full Okay, okay, then sold for
Starting point is 00:47:12 1800 two years ago. No, that's the sign of the though that one that's over 800 is the sign Pope John Paul Yeah, so the most expensive the 13th is like that I'm joking. I don't get that. Yeah, it's not worth a Honus Wagner. It's just like a fucking, I don't know. I think I don't even know if they can find them anymore, but yeah, the Pope signed Pope John Paul went for 1800 two years ago.
Starting point is 00:47:36 So good thing to collect guys. They've been basically selling NFTs since the reformation. You know, they've been on that shirt. Getting original 99th DCs, dude. You smell that? You smell that? Pope incense right there on that car. You smelling it? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Hell yeah. Breathe that in. You're going to heaven now. All right. Please take me away. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Right. Please take me away.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. What happens when we come face to face with death? My truck was blown up by a 20 pound anti-tank mine. My parachute did not deploy. I was kidnapped by a drug cartel. I just remember everything getting dark. I'm dying. We step beyond the edge of what we know. To open our consciousness to something more than just what's in that Western box.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And return. I clinically died. The heart stopped beating. Which I was dead for 11.5 minutes. My name is Dan Bush. My mission is simple. To find, explore, and share these stories. I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor.
Starting point is 00:48:46 You're strongest when you're the most vulnerable. To remind us what it means to be alive. Not just that I was the guy that cut his arm off, but I'm the guy who is smiling when he cut his arm off. Alive Again, a podcast about the fragility of life, the strength of the human spirit, and what it means to truly live. Listen to Alive Again on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen
Starting point is 00:49:07 to your favorite shows. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Ed Helms is here. I of course was drawn to the LSD story. In the 1950s, the CIA scientists secretly bought the entire world's supply of LSD embarking on a horrific attempt to discover the secrets to mind control. This is so insane.
Starting point is 00:49:27 This was all under like official government activity. They built a apartment in San Francisco that had a glass mirror where he could sit there and watch. And then they would drug these customers and he was just sort of taking notes and God knows what else behind this double mirror. And this was all in the name of science. This just sounds like a guy and he was just sort of taking notes and God knows what else behind this double mirror. And this was all in the name of science.
Starting point is 00:49:47 This just sounds like a guy off behind a wall. It does. I would just also like to say if you don't have to take LSD like this, LSD can be microdosed. It's like an upper of energy enthusiasm makes you less nervous.
Starting point is 00:50:00 If I'm going heli skiing. If it allows me to go hella skiing, then yeah, I'm hella on board. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding,
Starting point is 00:50:27 but the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action, and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Business Week. I'm Max Chafkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business,
Starting point is 00:50:43 taking a look at what's going on, why it matters and how it shows up in our everyday lives. With guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now,
Starting point is 00:51:20 and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept,
Starting point is 00:51:40 but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend, and I found his piss jar in our apartment. I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29,
Starting point is 00:51:59 they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. And we're back. We're back.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And let's talk about, let's talk about childcare. Wow. The figurative old town road, a metaphor many have been making. Old town road to weird Al, childcare is to Democrats. Yeah. But yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:44 America is in the middle of a child care crisis. Child care, obviously, absolute necessity. A 2019 survey found that nearly a quarter of kids in the US lived in single parent households. 66.5 percent of married households, both parents were employed. Both Democrats and Republicans overwhelmingly support policies that help working families
Starting point is 00:53:05 with young children access childcare. That's Democrat and Republican voters. The voters, yeah. Not that, some people in office. Last election, we didn't get shit from either party in terms of discussing that. No. Or having any plans around that. Because it was either homophobia and xenophobia on one side,
Starting point is 00:53:24 and then the other side was like, at least it's not that. Yeah. Like anything else you care to say besides at least we're not that. Oh, they're also bad. Nah. All right. Yeah. That's good enough. They're all so bad. And the Democratic plans, you know, Harris's plan. She did have a plan that you could go check out on her website, which is what they love to do.
Starting point is 00:53:45 What are you talking about? We don't talk about it. We have a whole plan on our website that you should go check out. Um, but it was basically just the Biden like build back better thing where no families should have to pay more than 7% of their household income, man. Which such a winning issue. Like, so take your household income. Now we're going to do a quick bit of long division.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Here times.07. Right. Now that number shouldn't be more than that. That's relative to everybody else's zinc. Wait, that's not a set number. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but hey, that's cool, man. If you're making a million, that's pretty cool too.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Anyways, it's one of those things that Democrats like to talk about. Making affordable instead of making it free. Because if they say make it free, they get in trouble with some of the people we're about to talk about. But then you're a socialist or a communist or something or whatever, whatever they want to say, a hippie. There's actual evidence that a universal childcare program would be a huge win because in New Mexico
Starting point is 00:54:45 during the pandemic, they were able to offer free childcare to a majority of families. And the result is that it lifted 120,000 people above the poverty line. Unreal. 120,000 people. With this one trick, we lifted 120,000 people out of poverty. It's just like such a clear-cut fucking home run easy Old-town road weird Al Perry They were
Starting point is 00:55:18 Literate so this is not a new a new idea, right? they're it's funny because like back when the idea of having women in the workforce was considered insane, but necessary because of World War II, they actually had policies that were more progressive than we can even imagine for ourselves. They literally government-funded childcare facilities in the 40s during World War II because they needed women to enter the workforce. So they were like, I mean, this is going to be a real problem. You know that not that they can do a man's job, but we got, we
Starting point is 00:55:53 need it to beat the Nazis. Yeah. So we got to take an excuse off the table. Yeah. And, uh, so they government funded childcare at a time when, when they were like, that's women working in factories? Do we need to be cheering on
Starting point is 00:56:11 the onset of World War III to get the social benefits we're seeking right now? That's what it looks like. Whatever it takes. Yeah. I guess. The pattern usually is depression, then big World War, and then let's see.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah. Super producer Catherine also points out that that was at a time when childcare consisted of be home before dark. Honey, come back here. You need your pocket knife. Yeah, exactly. In case you run into any trouble. But anyways, on the Republican side, again, this is just such an easy layup for Democrats.
Starting point is 00:56:48 On the Republican side, Project 2025 essentially calls for daycares to be defunded. Their solution, home care, because the authors claim that children who go to childcare are more likely to suffer from anxiety, depression, and neglect. I'm sorry, who go to childcare? We should leave them at home alone.
Starting point is 00:57:08 That's right. Right. It's like written by somebody who's never been to a daycare. It's like those kids who go to childcare. Yeah. I've never used that phrase. It's like, I got to pick up my kid from childcare. I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm being overly specific.
Starting point is 00:57:24 That's about right. It sounds like someone don't know, maybe I'm being overly. I think that's about right. It sounds like someone who yet learned about the thing. Just to be like, yeah, it's bad. Yeah. Yeah. They just want to go back to the 1950s when women stayed at home and parents named their kids Beaver for some reason.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Was his name legally Beaver in the show? That was a nickname, right? Because his last name is Cleaver. Beaver. That fucking rules if that was a real name. And so they called him. Oh, he's Theodore. Young Theodore. Theodore. Beaver. Cleaver. The Beaver Cleaver.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Jesus. He's fucking serial killer. Sounds like some of you working for Trump. Kind of spelling out what his future was going to be. Yeah. Right. JD V spelling out what his future was going to be. Yeah. JD Vance claimed that parents should simply get grandparents to watch their kids. He also once agreed with the suggestion
Starting point is 00:58:13 that the whole purpose of the post-menopausal female is to look after kids, which did kind of break through. But that would have been a great moment for the Democrats to be like, and this is our childcare plan It's better than his that's just like give them to the old people because they don't have anything else to do And he also said that universal daycare is class war against normal people Normal people like me a guy who talks about the whole purpose of the post-menopausal Fee, yeah, exactly just a normal ass thing to be saying.
Starting point is 00:58:46 It's class war against me. Oh, God damn. I mean, holy shit. As somebody with a young kid and thank God, my family, like I'm living the city where I grew up. I don't know, like I have friends who are transplants and without like that kind of familial support, it's like night and day, like what that experience is like.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And also childcare is so fucking expensive. So expensive. Yeah. So we're about to get into why. So Republicans have been proposing expanding childcare tax credits, gutting support for independent childcare facilities while basically giving parents slightly more money
Starting point is 00:59:24 to spend on kids is what they are, because they want to bring private equity in rather than give the money directly to or like leave the money directly with people who provide the child care facilities. They want to leave some extra money with the parents and then make it so that anything government supported can't compete. And so that's where private equity comes in. Yes, the industry that gutted health care and killed Red Lobster and Toys R Us, they have been- Our three most important institutions. Exactly. They have been getting their hands dirty in the childcare industry, and it's been a complete disaster.
Starting point is 01:00:08 So some of the things they've been doing in an effort to increase profits, they've maximized enrollment and kept the bare minimum of teachers. That's good, it's good for profits. They've kept their costs low by shifting daily cleansing responsibilities from outside companies to teachers,
Starting point is 01:00:24 and scaling back the number of sheets of paper per day that kids can use. That's fucking diabolical, dude. That's wild. She's out of paper. She's out of paper? Yeah, the number, well, like they can focus on the one drawing that they're doing each day.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Each child is allowed to have one drawing or painting per day. And if they do more than that, they have to pay extra. All right. Then flip it over asshole. Use the other side on the over enrollment thing. The, some of these, uh, private equity on daycares are doing the thing that airlines do where they will like turn you away. They overbook.
Starting point is 01:00:59 They, yeah, they overbook and then turn. They're like, yeah, you're enrolled, but we're at capacity on this flight. So you have to just wait till tomorrow. Like people who are like on their way to work, you know? And they're like, okay, dropping my kid off for the day. And they're like, do yeah. About that. I don't know if you saw the sign
Starting point is 01:01:20 that says no vacancy right now. Yeah. It's flashing. So yeah, you gotta go up the street, man. And they're also mainly looking to expand in higher income neighborhoods, even though the greatest need for services is particularly in rural areas and low income communities of color. But their executives, of course, make millions.
Starting point is 01:01:39 The CEO of Kindercare, which is one of the largest child care chains, made $2 million last year. Might've had to make do with 1.99 million. If he'd let the kids have their drawing paper, not on my watch, not on my watch. Not over here, pal. But yeah, it's so big reason the Democrats are, it just seems like so obvious, like just focus on this, be like, this is what's happening. This is why it's happening because of Republican policies.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Here's our solution. We're going to do what they did in New Mexico for the whole fucking country. And this is how well it worked there. This will work here. It will make everybody better able to like work, which you guys all like, that's the thing you care so much about is like letting people work. So like it'll let people work. It'll give children, like some reason people care about children being happy and healthy, we'll do that too.
Starting point is 01:02:33 But the thing that's getting in their way is lobbyists. Love them. Love them. Yeah. Lobbyists representing these chains fight against any reform while publicly claiming otherwise. Biden's infrastructure bill was blocked by Joe Manchin, who accepted lucrative donations from these daycare chains.
Starting point is 01:02:55 We miss him. Yeah, we miss him. We miss you, Joe. We did it, Joe. I love it. We blocked the daycare regulations. Searching kindercare is kind of a mind mind fuck because it's either like the most hardcore financial reporting. That's like, here's some tips about kindercare.
Starting point is 01:03:08 They're up with their upcoming, upcoming earnings call or like this one. Mom says twins were abused by teacher at Pittsburgh kindercare. Yeah. Oh God, Pittsburgh. I'm sorry. Sorry. Yeah. I think I went to kindercare when I was a kid, like kinder'm sorry, Joe. That hurts. Sorry, it hurts. Yeah. I think I went to KinderCare when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Like KinderCare sounds really familiar, but yeah. We've like used these sorts of places before, you know, and it's, yeah, they're super expensive. And the idea that they're going to be like stripped down like more and more like we've seen with like elder care. Right. It's so fucked up. Well, and it'll do those things where it'll push out all the smaller providers and then be like,
Starting point is 01:03:51 look, there's like two kinder cares that you send your kid to. Right. Because their business practices kind of squeeze out every other fucking provider. Wow. Wow. Yeah. So I'm glad I go to, man, the fucking, I'm not going to say the daycare that I said my kid do, but it's so old school.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I fucking love it. Like the daycare he was at before they had like an app and shit where they communicate with the parents about what's going on. This one it's like straight out of the 80s, like when I was a kid. And like if there's something wrong, they'll tell you. Like there's no like constant app updates, which is fine. Like I don't mind that, but they're also like their whole vibe is just more like, yeah, man, it's like the kids are vibing out, man.
Starting point is 01:04:32 They're great. And they've been around for like 50 years and I'm like, I really, I really like that. It just feels like people who really care about kids, like looking after your kids versus, and I, and I feel for like all, like childcare providers because it's such a fucked up like environment to navigate as a person who's just trying to work or, you know, all of that. So anyway, shout out my old school daycare. I love the lack of communication.
Starting point is 01:04:56 And I'm like, he had a cut on his eye yesterday. And they're like, oh, yes, we meant to tell you, we were gonna call you, but we didn't wanna worry you. He walked in front of a swing set and got taken out Pretty gnarly. I have the video right here Like there were like it was gone wild. They were like almost hit a flip, but he didn't cry He was like he shook it right off and then we're like, ah, he's alright Fucking tank
Starting point is 01:05:24 All right, I mean he didn't come home complaining. I just noticed it later. Then great. This quote from the Atlantic bummed me out. Private investors are intrigued by child care for the same reason they became interested in nursing homes and other health care services. Intense demand, government money, and relatively low startup costs.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Their goal is not long-term sustainability. Their goal is to try to turn a profit. So that's bad. With your children's wellbeing. Yes. And then this just about the Joe Manchin thing, uh, from the New York Times after Senator Joe Manchin, a cent, a centrist Democrat, kiss my ass, uh, essentially killed the legislation by opposing it. Mr. Dunkley and executives from several other, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, kiss my ass, essentially killed the legislation by opposing it.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Mr. Dunkley and executives from several other consortium companies including Bright Horizons, Kindercare, the Primrose School Franchising Company, Jesus, Lightbridge Academy and Acelero, Acelero Learning made donations in January to Mr. Mansion's campaign fund and his political action committee in its 2021 annual report, bright horizons, which I'm pretty sure I sent my kids to a bright horizons place for like a month when we needed it.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Oh, congratulations. You're the destroyer, dude. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Oh, congrats, man. You're the destroyer, dude. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Bright Horizons wrote that a broad based benefit for childcare could place downward pressure on the tuition and fees we charge, which could adversely affect our revenues. So like basically giving, giving families money to pay for this could actually fuck us. Like we, we need that. Is this why people were asking Grok if we were fucked? I think they were actually referring to a baseball game they were watching.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Yeah. Yeah. Damn. We just hooked the pitcher, man. Are we fucked, Grok? Yeah, the thing about white genocide, what the fuck? It now is like, Grok is just like responding as like some boomer that you asked a random question to it.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Like, shake shack now. Yeah, like, fuck, watch. See how long it takes to turn this into a conversation about how everyone's being too hard on Elon. Right. Joe, such a pleasure having you as always on the podcast. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, you can follow me at Joe Kwa,
Starting point is 01:07:47 J-O-E-K-W-A on TikTok and Instagram. I guess I'm technically still on Twitter at joe.kjoe.k, but I'm not fucking with that anymore, unless I need grok for any assistance with my life and my decisions. And then you have a YouTube channel, Joe Kozala. I post sketches and videos and stuff, uh, pretty regularly. So check that out.
Starting point is 01:08:10 And, uh, if you follow me, you'll learn that on June 29th, a thing that I can't say yet, but perhaps a movie will be screening in the LA area. Oh, okay. Nice. Okay. Special movie. This is the new Lilo and Stitch remake, live action remake? That's an interesting guess.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Amazing. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? You know, I've really been enjoying Alan Segal's writing on The Ringer, specifically this he's been covering with Righteous Gemstone's ending. He's been doing a lot of Danny McBride stuff. There's an oral history. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just kind of on Danny McBride's journey through Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And then also he covered one of my absolute favorite things, which is that there was when Will Ferrell was on Eastbound and Down and played Ashley Schaeffer, the used car salesman, there's this like kind of iconic, I would call it a blooper reel where he is he and Danny McBride and Craig Robinson, he's just going off. And it's probably the funniest thing that's ever happened. And he actually got people to talk about like what it was like on the day when he's when Will Ferrell has this white wig and it's going, I feel it in my stomach. In my lungs. In my lungs, yeah. In my lungs, yeah, yeah, I know that one. I'm so glad someone finally took that as a journalist. Took that seriously.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Yeah, that's great. Shout out to the ringer. I'm sorry for being mean to you earlier. I do love the work for you still. They're not gonna hire you, dude. They're not gonna hire you. They're not gonna hear this. Talk too much shit about Bill Simmons.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work in media you've been enjoying? Yeah, everywhere at miles of great, even on PlayStation Network where I'm playing for Harai, Forza, Forza, Horizon 5, whatever that new racing game is. It's it's all right. I said it's so excited. The state of state of modern gaming.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you want to race. I hit me up, dude. I'll fucking smoke you either way. But what I do, who gives a shit. Let's see, I work in media, I'm liking, just Trump is in the fucking Middle East. He's in Dubai right now. Killing it.
Starting point is 01:10:13 And TimOnion at bencollins.beastguy.social just posted this clip of Trump talking about groceries to the president of the UAE. And he said, man of the people who definitely knows what the ancient term groceries are. And this is what he's responding to. Jobs, because to me, the most important jobs, I want jobs.
Starting point is 01:10:33 And we have costs are way down. Groceries are way, they have a term grocery. It's an old term, but it means basically what you're buying food, it's pretty accurate term, but it's an old fashioned sound, but groceries are down. An old fashioned sound. Yeah. Yeah. It's an old fashioned stop, listen, what's that sound? Everybody here, old fashioned sound. I don't know. It's, it's fucking nonsense. And this is, he's just grifting and talking
Starting point is 01:11:00 sundowning, falling asleep. We have this old fashioned word. They've got this old fashioned word. In ancient times, the Mesopotamians would speak of grocery. It's so, he does this thing where he always says he makes, he said, I like this term I call equalizing. He said that about like pharmaceuticals. And it's like, I guess because everyone else treats him like he's so smart, then he gets around him, other people, then he's like, yo, I'm the smartest motherfucker that ever lived.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I can actually claim that I invented the word equalizing and that groceries are an ancient term. Well, nobody's calling him on it to his face and everybody else is a hater of fakeness. Unless there's Scottish, there was when he signed that quote unquote big deal with the UK, this one Scottish Journalist who's in the Oval Office like sir some people are saying this isn't much of a deal at all And you're just desperate to have some kind of win What do you say to that and it was just like he almost like short-circuited? So we have to count on journalists from abroad to be a little guy and yeah get him out from Alabama
Starting point is 01:12:02 What's that accent that accent accent's tough, my man. Oh man. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Blue Sky at Jack OB, the number one work media I've been enjoying. The onion continues to kill it. And I just liked this headline, nation's UPS men break out the shorts For a UPS guy giving a thumbs up in some shorts that is a rite of spring Yeah, really many many called the most important rite of spring
Starting point is 01:12:38 anyways, you can find Us on Twitter at daily zeitgeist and on blue sky at daily zeitgeist We're at the daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to this episode wherever you're listening to it. Go to the show description and there you will find the footnote, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off there to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy?
Starting point is 01:13:05 Yeah, yeah. The Q-tip album, Amplified, is a great one. There's a track on there called Let's Ride that's, I think, probably one of the more popular songs on that album. I think Vibrant Thing or Breathe and Stop are kind of the other big ones. But this is a, not a remix, more of like a tribute, a cover by the artist Soul Supreme,
Starting point is 01:13:28 who's like just kind of like these one man band producer piano players and does like more jazzy centric stuff when it comes to like classic hip hop. So this is the Soul Supreme version of Q-Tips. Let's ride. And it's really fucking, it's just nice. All right. We's pleasant. All right, we will link off to that in the foot. No, no. The Daily Zyte Guys, the production of iHeartRadio from our podcast from iHeartRadio. Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Starting point is 01:13:52 That's gonna do it for us this week. We're back on Monday to tell you what was trending over the weekend. And we will talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye. The Daily Zyte Guys is executive produced by Katherine Long. Co-produced by Bae Wang.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Co-produced by Victor Wright. Co-written by J.M. McNabb. Edited and engineered by Justin Connor. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler. Ed Helms is here. I of course was drawn to the LSD story. This was all under official government activity. They built a apartment that had a glass mirror where he could sit there and watch,
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