The Daily Zeitgeist - GuilTDZ 4/20: Derek Chauvin

Episode Date: April 20, 2021

On this edition of GuilTDZ Jack and Miles discuss the Guilty verdict on all 3 counts for Derek Chauvin. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is Trending, a.k.a. we until uh the verdict came down to uh record to give our reactions i'm like emotionally spent and just uh i was yeah way way too nervous for uh what a jury was gonna find about somebody who committed emotion murder over nine minutes yeah let me tell you man this the process of waiting for that verdict was just so fucking excruciating because i'm i think like a lot of people i'm looking at a data set that shows me the verdict that was read wasn't going to happen. So you have to simultaneously operate this place where you're trying to be realistic about what this country is and what it stands for, while also having this torturous hope that things may begin to turn. Or maybe this can be somewhat breaking the mold or the the pattern

um and it's just it's just it's exhausting to hope that your existence as a person of color a human being can be validated with the right verdict but that you but also uniquely to like this black experience is also kind of readying yourself that it doesn't matter that is fucked up that he might you fuck it he might be on dancing with the stars next fucking fall um and i said i'm i'm completely spent uh because i think i i at the end of the day, we have the same system. Yeah. And I know that this is a, this is good data.

This is good feedback to say, yes, that this version of justice was served, but it is so many people that have not gotten justice. And if we don't act, um, properly in accordance, not act properly, but if we don't make the right moves to create real change, functional experience, experiential change for people of color in this country, this doesn't mean much except for very narrowly that George Floyd got justice. And I want to be able to make sure that this, I don't know what the media is going to do after this. Like what the, if they're going to be like, well, George Floyd got justice. Now let's keep it moving. But yeah, I'm relieved.

And I'm also just exhausted. And I feel shitty that even though there was justice in this context, narrowly, we're still in the same America at the end of the day. Yeah. And it's just a weird thing. It's a unique sense of bittersweetness that I think people of color only know in this country. Yeah.

If this is breaking the mold mold then the mold is fucking broken and i think we need to recognize that and change change the system and i i'm hoping that that's maybe the experience of you know of waiting for this and also looking at the priors and looking at for this and also looking at the priors and looking at Philando Castile's case and the fact that that dude got off after shooting him seven times for no reason. The fact that people experienced that

and I just feel like it didn't break through at the time and now the whole world was kind of watching this and waiting for the american justice system to fuck it up i'm hoping that that's enough to recognize that it needs to change that this this version of things where this is the exception to the rule like we can't we can't move forward with that well and i think for people who i already had people in my comments being like well this is a step right someone said you should be happy i should be excuse you fucking tell me what the fuck i need to feel but i don't steps we've talked about this when the since george floyd was murdered over the summer incrementalism uh gradual glacial pace is still violence yeah and to think otherwise to think to mistake that for progress is it does a disservice to all those people who are looking

for equity um you cannot take this and say not to then not to you know wash away the that this was a successful prosecution but to widen that widen that perspective and to say that this is well this is great uh on on on some level it is, but it doesn't end there because what's great is that we all move together towards actual lived liberation for actual equity, for a justice system that is applied equally across the board. Until we have that, we have to keep our heads in the game and i know some people are going to check out other people don't have that luxury other people are still thinking well shit there's still cops out there and what what's their response going to be to this right is it going to be more

aggression is it going to be less is it going to be crisis pr teams to be like oh okay we got maybe we should change our uniform colors to be a lighter shade of blue. I don't know, but. I feel like that was that was like people were boarding up their businesses and being like, what if what if, you know, what's going to happen? What if, you know, what's going to happen, as everybody said, bracing for the response if he was acquitted? Well, let's talk about what the response is going to be from the police just nationwide. We've seen how petulant they are when people even suggest that they're held to account. I also, somebody put it this way, that this can be read as just them knowing when to sacrifice one of their own. Absolutely.

Sacrificial lamb. Yeah. And there were like the key difference a lot of reporters were pointing to is that the police actually testified against him and his superior said that's not like what that like we needed the the justice system requires the boss to say i actually don't think he should have murdered that person on camera but the what brought them to that point i i think why why they felt like they had to behave differently this time there there are so many things that first of all there's the i think it was a child who took the video had the courage to take the video and stand there uh while while the police were you were glaring at her and telling anybody who's watching to stand back and stay back.

And then I think the organizing and protesting and even the violence that happened uh over you know destruction of property that happened over the summer you think that didn't help put put the people of the minneapolis police force in the mind state that like well shit we need to give them one um and actually testify like that's why the whole uh biden and then even this judge being like maxine waters saying that like they need to stay out in the streets and like hold them accountable that this proves to me that that's absolutely right that's absolutely right that they need yeah they're counting they're counting on people to go back to yes sleep yes they're hoping that this causes people to go back to

sleep it's it's like whoa okay we get it wow like that's truly the energy of it you know because that's how a lot of these things work it that's like the the you know the way these fucking institutions preserve themselves whether you know there's way these fucking institutions preserve themselves, whether, you know, there's always a conversion that'll distract from like your own wrongdoing. And everyone can be like, aha, point the finger over there to absolve ourselves because we're holding this other thing accountable to show that we're on the right side,

but it's not consistent. Um, and yeah, I, I, I hope that people understand that as long as the policing in this country remains in the form that it is, this is going to continue. Yeah. So we're not done.

And I guarantee you, we're going to have to watch another video, unfortunately, of somebody losing their lives at the hands of police. video unfortunately of somebody losing their lives at the hands of police um because this will give people the intellectual cover to not want to advocate for more to ask for more to say people deserve more because it'll it's it's just moral licensing i'm sure a lot of people take this moment to morally license be like well you know derek chauvin didn't kill that's one person I did you know watching his eyes go wide as they were reading the verdict watching his bail get revoked and then

remand him to custody and cut his hands behind his back was there was some kind of relief and release in seeing that right yeah I again you know for people who think some kind of relief and release in seeing that. Right. Yeah. I, again,

you know, uh, for people who think, uh, there's relief there is on some level, but unfortunately, like the, the form of progress that we're experiencing,

it's not fast enough. It's not fast experiencing, it's not fast enough. It's not fast enough. It's not fast enough. And if you're, if your team, Hey, that was great. Back to brunch,

baby. No, yeah, that that's, we don't, unfortunately there are too many people in this country that don't have the luxury of doing that. And I implore many people who listen to this show to really,

if you're around people like, well, at least they, we gotta be okay. We have to change the discourse to say, yes, and we need to go further because we're too used to this diet of incremental quote unquote progress and letting that appease the masses or the media apparatus that will no longer report on in a way that will acknowledge the outrage that still exists in this country. Um, because it still exists and it will continue to exist as long as we're, you know, under the oppression of this,

this justice system. Yeah. He's going to be sentenced in eight weeks, which is a long time to wait, but, um, yeah. Yeah.

And four 20 is trending. is uh 420 buddy uh so it's so wild i the there is a lot of tweets the people being like the owners of the super league are like just hoping like they're like fuck the chauvin trial is gonna change like the news cycle for a second right uh and yeah it may or may not but i think at the end of the day uh just people of good conscious please know that the the thing that we need to celebrate and move towards is the just ending of this carceral system we have yeah uh and really reimagining what these ideas are of safety of crime uh and what the root causes are of crime and things like that and yes while there are people who are just going to do whatever the fuck they're going to do there's also so many people that deserve the dignity of

being able to live a life undisturbed and to have prosperity that it's only sort of afforded to to few people yeah uh so that you know keep going keep going yeah but honestly uh a big shout out to the prosecution for having to lay out a case that to many people was so obvious but unfortunately you need to be as persuasive as possible even when you have the shit on tape and i don't want to take away anything from what has happened in this trial i'm merely speaking from my perspective and what i'm at the moment going through uh i do have i am relieved but i'm also sick that we have this cycle where all of my hopes are hinging on the decision of 12 people to define what murder is to define what the cost of of ending life is um and that's really

fucked up to have to go through constantly but there's so many heroic things had to stack up to just make this one exception to what has been the rule possible. The prosecution, abnormal things I should say. The police actually telling the truth, the woman taking the video, and for every one case where those things line up, there are 20 innocent people who are being murdered and nobody's noticing yeah so um yeah you're bittersweet bittersweet yeah yeah um

but fuck at least some measure of relief yeah um that for sure something that obvious uh was for whatever reason people were able to move past that whether it's just a you know a performative gesture from the police and this jury i don't know um but i'm glad that for in for george floyd's family they can they can rest a little bit easier and know that at some level, people gave a shit. Yeah, his life mattered. Yeah. All right. So that is what's happening right now,

this afternoon. We recorded tomorrow's episode right before the verdict was read. So you will get a totally different version of us in that episode. So till then. Yeah, we'll talk to you all tomorrow morning. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves.

Wear a mask. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we'll talk to you all tomorrow. Black lives still matter. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hi, I am Lacey Lamar. And I'm also Lacey Lamar.

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