The Daily Zeitgeist - Gwyneth Paltrow Has Left Earth, Dirtbike Hero 08.21.26

Episode Date: August 21, 2026

In episode 2113, Jack and guest co-host Sofiya Alexandra are joined by co-host of Pod Yourself A Gun & Mad Yourself A Man, Vince Mancini, to discuss… Gwyneth Paltrow Allegedly Hosting ...“Off-The-Record” Sam Altman Dinner, GTA VI Incentive Being Used to Get Soldiers to Reenlist, Dirtbike Hero, Wait Turtles Is Birds? A Janky Cartoon About A Cow Is A Surprise Box Office Hit In China and more! Gwyneth Paltrow is rumored to be throwing a party for AI mogul Sam Altman. People don’t love the optics Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop Has Embraced Tech for Years. Now She’s Hosting Sam Altman at Her Hamptons Home Gwyneth Paltrow allegedly set to throw dinner in honor of Sam Altman Gwyneth Paltrow Just Goopified Drone Warfare If Your Business Doesn’t Offer Workers a 401(k) Plan, Maybe Now Is the Time Anduril Partners with OpenAI to Advance U.S. Artificial Intelligence Leadership and Protect U.S. and Allied Forces Anduril eyes major Israeli defense deals, expanding partnership talks during CEO's visit From Goop to ‘Gwynocide’: why is Gwyneth Paltrow starring in a luxury Israeli real estate ad? Army unit offers 4-day pass to play Grand Theft Auto VI as reenlistment incentive Dirt bike rider leads police on erratic chase through Los Angeles County What, Exactly, Is a Turtle? Niu Lai full movie (Bootleg) ‘Bad in every aspect’: derided low-tech animation Niu Lai rivals blockbusters at Chinese box office Movie that went viral for terrible animation becomes China box office hit Chinese Animated Feature ‘Niu Lai’ Turns Online Mockery Into Big Box Office Bucks Low-Budget Animated Movie About A Cow Gets So Popular Theaters Are Using Ridiculous Hand-Drawn Posters Niu Lai (lit. Cow Come) was released without a press kit. Movie theaters in China have begun making their own posters. Director of ‘bizarre’ Chinese film Niu Lai says creators didn’t want to let precision get in way of story 'Niu Lai': Chinese Animated Movie Mocked Online Turns Into Box-Office Sensation How ‘disaster’ film Niu Lai became a hit in China—hand-drawn posters, $47 budget China’s Ugliest Movie Is a Gen Z Masterpiece China’s most ridiculed animation ‘Niu Lai’ is the resistance against AI slop that we need China Lands in Cannes With Robots, AI Films and a Very Clear Message 'Morbius' memes helped give the movie more buzz. But it bombed in theaters after re-release. LISTEN: Vibe (If I Back It Up) by Cookiee KawaiiSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 We need a title card that says Miles and it's just this episode, like playing really faintly in the background of a pool of a pool scene. Yes, exactly. We just start dedicating episodes to him and he's not dead. He's just having the best time in Costa Rica. RIP Miles, you would have loved this episode. See you on Monday. And by RIP we mean resting in paradise. Yeah, rest in paradise, my king.
Starting point is 00:00:35 have they done a movie where somebody goes back to school purely to dominate at like a sport that they besides the scene in Billy Madison with dodgeball yes so in the movie where Matthew Perry and Zach Efron are inexplicably the same person sure he's like really good at basketball and he goes back to like not blow that like final basketball whatever great game of his high career. And I don't know. It wasn't really a bob. It's not like 13 going on 30.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Like that's a bob. Like I will not be rewatching this vehicle. Rest in Paradise, Matthew. Matthew. He's in Costa Rica right now. Exactly. They're beautiful Costa Rica in the sky. Just want somebody to make a shitty painting of Miles and Matthew Perry.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Just holding hands on the beach. Yeah. And you just see them from the back. With that cowboy guy? And the clouds. Yeah. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
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Starting point is 00:02:29 Pride and Prejudice and Love Island to serve the same level of discourse. Each week, we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and pop culture. With your favorite writers, book talk creators, and plenty of overthought opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed.
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Starting point is 00:03:31 The cast of Frozen stopped by. Kristen Bell, Josh Gad, and Adina Mansell. I auditioned for Frozen. What? For Christoph. They said, okay, what are you going to be singing today? I said, I don't know. That must have been why you did.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Didn't get it. Oh, you probably one. Plus, John Stamos, Hayden Christensen from Star Wars and more. And I guess I can share that, uh, no way. Listen to the latest episode of Hey Jonas on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, the internet and welcome to season 452 episode five of DirtyEle's Igeist. It's a production of IHard Radio.
Starting point is 00:04:05 It's a podcast where you take a deep dive into America's share consciousness through the day's news. We also have a new non-news. version of the daily Zichikes, dropping each Monday morning called the iconograph, where we do a deep dive into the Zykeyes through the lens of a different icon. Last couple of weeks, we've done Weird Al. Weird Al, having a bit of a, I feel like, did Weird Al's tiny desk concert just come out? I saw that today. Yeah, I didn't know if it was long ago, but today was the first day I saw it. It also did Helen Keller. I don't believe I've seen her tiny desk concert.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I was literally just about to say. I have a good Helen Keller joke. You want to hear it? Oh no. Oh no. Yeah, let's go. I already know. What did Helen Keller say when someone handed her a cheese grater? What? Most violent book I ever read.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Jesus Christ, man. Vince. Vince. That's a good one. Come on. It is the first way that I ever encountered Helen Keller was in Helen Keller jokes when I was like four in the 80s. Okay, I'll tell you what. The first time I encountered Helicolor was also through jokes, but I was 11 and I moved
Starting point is 00:05:12 here from Ukraine. And I had no idea who she was still, but people were constantly making fun of her. And I was like, what did she do? I kept being like,
Starting point is 00:05:22 maybe when I finally, Who's this bitch? Yeah, I was like, when I looked her up, I bet she's gonna be like such a, like, she's gonna be like a margaret
Starting point is 00:05:29 thatcher type, like asshole. And then I look her up and she's just like, an amazing genius. I was like, oh, the jokes we tell in my country. This country is horrible.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I'm like, the jokes to tell her my country You're about politicians. The jokes here like, look at this dumb bitch overcoming the greatest odds you've ever seen. I was like, oh. Yeah. It was a really good episode. I recommend people checking it out.
Starting point is 00:05:59 It seems like it's going to be a grind, just a Helen Kettle, full hour episode about Helen Keller. But it ends up being very interesting and cool, cool, so you can go check that out. You can also go check out our episode. about the dude, total bitch. That's the whole take. In fact, in case you were afraid and you weren't going to listen. She's a fucking bitch. You go ahead listen to that.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Yeah, no, she's very remarkable. Also, secret social, like one of those historical secret socialists that that part of her story gets completely written out because we don't want to admit that there was ever such a thing in these United States. Also check out the dude episode, which was really fun with today's guest, Vince Mancini. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:58 They're the episodes on Monday with Icon in the title. Right now, right here, it's Friday, August 21st, 2026. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka, well, we decide. Oh, okay, here we go. When the brown of your eyes makes them swoon and scream cry, that's Mangione. When the world thinks it's fine that you shot healthcare guy, Mangione. That one, courtesy of Snorffula and Nucris, Collabo. It feels like anti-Talian discrimination.
Starting point is 00:07:35 What? In what way? No, it's okay. You're 100% You're invited to Sunday dinner. The gravy. I was just going to say. Yeah, gravy.
Starting point is 00:07:49 We're all rushing to say the two things we know about a time. We're like that and Gabagool and we're done here. Gabagul. We're thrilled to be joined in our second seat by a very talented writer, stand-up comedian who co-hosts the great 90-day fiancé podcast for 20-day fiancé. It's Sophia Alexandra. Thank you for having me. So glad to be here with you, filling in for My Mai.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And so so excited to see Vince. Who's Vince? They can't see me, but I have my shirt off and I'm waving it over my head right now. Like a helicopter. Like a helicopter. Thrill to be joined in our third seat by a proud Italian-American, a hilarious writer, comedian, podcaster, whose byline has appeared in places like GQ the ringer. the host of film drunk, the frotcast,
Starting point is 00:08:41 pod yourself a gun, pod yourself the wire, and mad yourself a man. Welcome back to the show. Vince Mancini! Gapagoole! Hey! Hey, I'm podding here.
Starting point is 00:08:56 What do we think? What does the Italian-American community think of the when the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie? That's... I thought you were going to say about Luigi, but you'd run for something much more important. We're a little split on it.
Starting point is 00:09:11 It's not, like, it's, you know, it's popular, but it's not culinary-accurate, and so, you know, some people take offense to that. Definitely not an accurate description of what it's like to have the moon hit your eye, like a big pizza pie. Yeah, well, I mean, a pizza, that's not all you're supposed to do with pizza. And so, like, yeah, that's not how you're supposed to eat it.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Like, you fold it in the middle, and then you pull the grease on the napkin a little bit. All right. Great. Well, not for nothing. That's just not how you eat a pizza pie. We're thrilled to have you here, Vince. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:09:45 First, we're going to tell the listening to a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to further check in with Gwendois Paltrow, who has left the planet and appears to be pro-AI. I wish you fucking would, Gwinez. I wish you fucking would. We'll talk about Grand Theft Auto 6 being used as an incentive to get people to re-enlist. We'll talk about the dirt bike hero. car chase that captivated Los Angeles yesterday, two days ago, we might talk about data centers. We might talk about the movie that's gone viral over in China.
Starting point is 00:10:23 We might ask the question, wait, turtles is bird? All of this, plenty more of a first instance. We do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, go with me here. The search history, one of the last things on my search history was Hotel California, you can check out any time because someone wrote, you can check out any time you like. And in my head, it was you can check out any time you want. And I don't know if you guys have this thing where you fixate on small details.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Like I feel like I would have gone to the mat saying like, it's check out any time you want, of course. And then I read the lyrics and it was time you like. And I was like, how did I, like, why was I convinced it was the wrong thing and why do I care? I knew it was like. And frankly, I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you. I did too. And I think you're, I think it's embarrassing and you're really fucked up about this.
Starting point is 00:11:22 No, I also have things like that. Or I'm like pretty positive that someone wrote a certain song and I'll be like, I'll swear anything. When I look it up, I'm like, oh, it actually wasn't Michelle Branch. It was Vanessa Curlton and that's my fault. Yeah. It's tough. I mean, I guess like before Google, either you could just like be the most confident person
Starting point is 00:11:43 or you would look stupid like a lot. Sure. Yeah. And that does change the meaning of the song in a very profound. Oh, wait, no, it doesn't at all. It doesn't. Do you like that song?
Starting point is 00:11:56 Me? I do fine. Yeah. No. No. I'm like, I'm with the dude on this one. Yeah. I think,
Starting point is 00:12:01 I enjoy the, like the certain Joe Walsh Eagle songs, but I feel like that one's distinctly not. I feel like that one's distinctly like a Henley song. Oh, yeah. That's Henley getting in his bag. Yeah. Henley being like giving himself goosebumps while he's like writing it, you know? He's like, oh shit, man. I don't know why, but that song to me is such quintessential Americana that like I'll allow it. Yeah. I. And also there's like a place on,
Starting point is 00:12:31 have you ever driven by this, Jack, in L.A. that is Hotel California. It's like on ocean in Santa Monica. And I always want to look up if, like, they named it after the song, or was this based on the hotel? But I never cared enough because fuck the evils. You know, another thing that I thought about today when I was doing, you know, you can check out anytime you like. I'd never like pondered the meaning of it. But today I was like, oh, they're like saying that you can like, like get high in California, but you'll, you'll be stuck here. That's kind of like, is that what they're going for there? Could be a drug song. You can check out anytime you like, man, we got drugs everywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Hmm. Interesting. That's so much deeper than I thought. I think you're 1,000% correct. I thought it was about Satanism. It's just about drugs and having a good time. I could definitely see Don Henley being like, wait, what? You thought it was about Satan?
Starting point is 00:13:20 No, it was about a hotel that I stayed at one time. Yeah, it sucked. I just didn't like the hotel. Yeah. I thought it was a song about a hotel that has like ghosts and that's why you can't leave. You know, like a Netflix show or something. I do not like that song. But, like at this point,
Starting point is 00:13:41 but I do think it's a powerful right of passage to be into the lyrics to that song when you're like 12 years old. And you're like first hearing it. And you're like, dude, wait, there's actually some fucked up shit in here. Because it's like, it's a song that your parents like listen to.
Starting point is 00:13:59 You know, it's just everywhere. The ultimate parent music. Yeah. Like parents getting too drunk at a dinner party. You're like, guys, knock it off with the eagle. We get it.
Starting point is 00:14:10 You guys had two parents. It also is a creative writing exercise that goes off the rails a little bit where it's where the like he's doing like subtle stuff with like the devil, you know? And then at one point it's like, we are programmed to receive.
Starting point is 00:14:26 It's like, wait, what the fuck? They turned into robots? What are you doing, man? Anyways, fuck the Eagles, you know? We got into a nice discussion about why the dude's rejection of the Eagles is philosophically important in that the dude episode, I think. I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I didn't want to rehash that. I was like, I feel like I've already said this before. We've already said this before. We're not going to do it this time. Now, we are a rehashing podcast. That's what we do. Speaking of rehashing, Sophia and I have an apology to make. We spent a bunch of yesterday's trending in trending.
Starting point is 00:15:04 in trending episode talking about this time all of them top popas we top of the pops top of the pops as Sophia termed it Papa John Papa Smurf Papa John bottom of the list yeah just
Starting point is 00:15:20 below human papaloma virus yeah so the human papilloma virus was Sophia's addition and Papa Roach we started talking about it a couple days ago. Papyrus font.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Papyrus font was a good one. Papa Iris. We did, our judges allowed that. I was surprised our judges allowed that. I thought they were going to call bullshit on that one. Yeah, it was crazy. I tried to slide Papa I by, and they said, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Yeah, no, too far. Yeah. I'm sorry, I love Popeye. I love it so much. And of course, Papa, as a thing to call your father, is adorable. Il Papa is one that I hadn't thought of,
Starting point is 00:16:05 but that is what we call the Pope. We Italian Americans call the Pope. Il Papa. You have to say it in that vocal range. We talked to Papa Pia. Then we did a long news story about paparazzi and didn't even make the connection on the episode. Egregious.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Pobarazzi are on there. What about the papaya? The poca. The wonderful papaya. Great addition to the popa list. Papaya. All right. Anyways, we wanted to apologize because I do feel bad for the people who are like
Starting point is 00:16:44 driving around being like, paparazzi. Are they not going to bring up that? It's paparazzi. You've said paparazzi 15 times. How do you not hear it? What is wrong with you guys? She even says Papa like 12 times in the song.
Starting point is 00:16:59 It's separate from the word. All right. Vince, we've had enough fun. All right. Time to get serious. Underrated. Underrated. I don't hope I haven't used this one before. Maybe I have. Probably not. I think underrated is, you said underrated, right? I certainly did.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah. You can do in either order. If it makes more sense to go overrated first. Yeah, let's go overrated first. I think overrated, specializing, like, people who can, like, have one. People that know what their career was going to be when they were like 16 or 25. Don't like it. Nah.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Underrated, being a dilettante. Hell yeah. I don't want to. I don't want to know about the like. Yeah, I just want to dabble enough. Like once it gets into like the real granular, nitty gritty, I'm kind of out. But like up until that point, awesome. All hobbies good.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Said like a true pot. castor. Exactly. Yeah. It's a dilettante's medium. It is. It really is. Are you an expert?
Starting point is 00:18:04 No, I just like to talk shit about some stuff sometimes. Yeah. That stuff that I like kind of remember seeing in a documentary made by a dilettante, but the dilettante was interviewing experts. Yeah. So I feel like it's fine. Don't worry about it. Also, you know what?
Starting point is 00:18:22 I will be making jokes. So I feel like that adds to the dilatant. of it all. Anyway, enjoy this podcast about Checks Notes. 90-day fiance. I always loved watching a
Starting point is 00:18:40 like Ken Burns documentary and they'd like have somebody on who's like not an Abe Lincoln ex-o. Like their whole career is like Andrew Johnson. You know what I mean? Like it would just be the least important president and like they were just like,
Starting point is 00:18:55 I'm gonna fucking nail down that corner and be the only person who, like, I know about, like, letters that they wrote home. Yeah. They're, like, mainly grocery lists, you know? Yeah, pick up some potatoes. I feel like Ken Burns is the dilettante's documentarian, though, because, like, most documentaries, they, like, pick an angle. They're like, oh, I want to do a documentary about Teddy Roosevelt's relationship with his son.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And Ken Burns is just like, I'm going to do one. is about jazz. The entire thing? Yeah, yeah, the whole one. Yeah, not like Miles Davis's like blue out. No, all a jazz. All jazz. I'll talk people, no jazz.
Starting point is 00:19:42 The next one, I think math. The concept. That is absolutely a Ken Burns. Math. That is absolutely a Ken Burns documentary waiting to be made. Words. Ken Burns presents life. Oh, so it's just going to be like an hour and a half?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yeah, I think I can capture it. I'm thinking of 14 parts, 30 minutes each. I think I got this. We live in an age of dilettone. Like we're a dot connecting. We're at a dot connecting period of time. And that is what AI is trying to take from us.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Well, I feel like, connect those dots for you, but it's bad at it. It is heartening a little bit that they... And some of the things aren't dots. Yeah. Yeah. Some of them are dashes, like Morse's code. Yeah, or you rub at it and you just had something on your screen. Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I feel like that's how a lot of AI logic is. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. But I feel like they, they sort of, like, the people, like, that are promoting AI the hardest. Like, they were convinced that it was going to replace, like, artists and writers. and things, and it turns out it's like, no, it mostly replaced like coders and
Starting point is 00:21:00 people that do what you do. Like, it's much better at replacing math and STEM people than it is at replacing humanities people. But they've never really been able to grasp the humanity, like Elon Musk. You know, we've seen him do comedy. We've seen him dance.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Have we now? Do his attempts at these things. We've seen him do his attempts that many things. And, you know, it's, it's like, you know, like the, somebody who came from a different planet. So to have a machine that would be able to replace all those things is his ultimate dream,
Starting point is 00:21:38 but he has no grasp on it. Yeah, what if we could, yeah, what if we could replace happiness with the computer? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like, like we already, we keep mentioning this, but I just feel like this is just kind of the peak of this. We're like Sam Allman using AI to parent his kids. kid and being like, actually, this is a hack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:59 So quick hack, I just like put my kids' favorite bluey episodes into a computer, and then it taught me how to talk to them, taught me what questions to ask my kids. Oh, son, what are you doing over there, Mike? Just literally found out. A bit of a KP-O-P-E. That's what they call elevators.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Found out two days ago, it's not blues clues. So like the accent is killing me because I'm still picturing the dog from Blue's Clues but now it's Australian. I don't know Blue's Clues enough to yes and that, but I wish I did. Sophia is a bluey truth. Like she doesn't, you know how some people are like,
Starting point is 00:22:41 I don't think dinosaurs actually existed because I've never seen them. Not blind. Stevie Wonder's not blind. That's my favorite conspiracy theory. Sophia is a bluey denier. She doesn't believe Bluey. We did a whole story about Bluey, and she commented on it as if we were talking about the dog from Blue's Clues, and still refused to acknowledge that Bluey was the thing after we were like, oh, no, that was a mix-up.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And I admire it. It's like, well, I haven't seen that shit, so. I want to say that I'm the one that found that I was wrong. No one was helping me drown. You guys were just like not throwing me lifesavers. You were just throwing lifesavers like the candy at me. And it was really like ironic and not funny. But the point is all I said was ears.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I was like, I think the dog has the hangy down ears and they redid it because I looked at the picture of blue and the ears were standing up. Jack is like gently like, it's always had those ears. And I'm like, I don't understand what's happening. No, not the original one. The original blueies clues. Yeah, I clung to that. Anyways. Sorry about it.
Starting point is 00:24:02 It's all right. It ended up working out just fine. We're going to take a quick break. Speaking of things working out, just fine. We're going to take a quick break, and then we're going to talk about Guineth Paltrow, who anytime I'm feeling a little bit stressed out, I just like to watch an interview with Guineath Poutro
Starting point is 00:24:20 because she seems very chilled out, And, like, she hasn't interacted with somebody who makes under, you know, $3.5 million annually in the last two decades. So we'll be right back. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it. Hello. My gosh. Watch all your favorite podcasts from start to finish right inside the free I-Hare radio app.
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Starting point is 00:25:25 and these are the survivors. files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't. aren't stories about what's taken from them. There's stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:26:09 or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudgment and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Listen to Pro Society on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people, and they were like, you smiled at us.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is, and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Guantautro. Fans, right?
Starting point is 00:28:22 All fans, huge fans? I celebrate her entire catalog. Yes. I changed my middle name to Goop. Good actress. I mean, come on. Oh, yeah. I feel like there's like, you know, method actors will live in a character of, you know, like whoever they're trying to embody. I feel like she lives in a weird, like, suspended space where like she doesn't really know the difference between reality and being in a movie.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Some of my favorite stories she's had just like, these are the more benign ones are when she told Timothy Chalame that he needed to do micro-abrasion for some of the pockmarks on his skin while he was in character
Starting point is 00:29:11 in Marty Supreme. Did he have to actually get simply for that? Is that what happened? He has like, he has like, you know, the makeup department did a good job of making his skin look kind of pockmarked. And she was like, honey, you should not look like
Starting point is 00:29:28 that at your age. She only shows up to the set for like the 45 minutes that she's filming, so she was completely unaware that he was in the makeup chair. I love that. Truly, I think she just floats in, in like an actual Pope Mobile, arrives on set, does her lines, and then is whisked away. Because the other story that just like, I think, speaks to her having left the planet is that multiple people have talked about how Tom Holland, who she's been informed, movies, four Avengers movies with, she has on multiple times been like, and who is
Starting point is 00:30:04 that? And who is he? Like as he's like right next to her within your shot. She just, she didn't really, like she was too in character. She's like, oh, that's Spider-Man. Who's Tom Holland? Right. Well, that's Peter Parker.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I don't know what you're talking about. But then Robert Downey Jr. had to explain to her who Spider-Man was and that she'd been in Spider-Man movies. Oh, that's right. I remember. She fully forgot she was in Spider-Man movies. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. No clue.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I forgot that I watched some of them. Yes. I mean, but that's true. But that's on us. We've seen so many Spider-Man. There's been a lot of Spider-Man. But she's not seen any of them. So this is kind of my question.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I feel like in the past, a level of celebrity like this who has like kind of left the planet and just like is surrounded by only rich people and people who like work for. them whose like job it is to like completely remove any friction from their lives. I feel like they would just like, I don't know, like have their own production house and like have a wine and just like, you know, maybe like do some workout videos or something like that. And now it's like you get swept into like the engine of late stage capitalism. Yeah. You have to be, you have to invest in various startups and like pretend to be a tech futurist. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Exactly. Just shut the fuck up and be quietly rich on your estate. Yeah. That's the Ashton Coucher thing. It's like, shut up, Kelso. It seems harder and harder for these people to do that. No, he's actually, the fact that he went, when Steve Jobs died, was immediately like, I know whose job this is to make the Steve Jobs movie.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Gwenith Paltrow has, so some of the things she's done in the past year, she started in that ad for a luxury high-rise condominium where it has like a switcheroo, M-night Sharmelon ending, where you think the whole time it's about a, like, high-rise luxury condo on like Park Avenue in New York, and it's really in Israel, in like an apartheid state.
Starting point is 00:32:22 She's like, oh, you thought we were in New York? No. We're in Tel Aviv or whatever. Also, you know, for free, you get views of all of the dead and maimed children and all of the destroyed communities. And that's just for free. You guys, like, reclaimed wood coffee tables and reclaimed water to water your lawns. Well, this is actually reclaimed land that we built this high rise on.
Starting point is 00:32:49 That's right. It's like the most eco-friendly thing because, like, really, you destroy a culture and you repurpose. the rubble for you. So, rumors are circulating that Gwyneth Paltrow is hosting a private off-the-record-all-fresco dinner. Private off-the-record-all-fresco dinner is in quotes at Herhampton's home
Starting point is 00:33:09 in honor of Cherboy, Sam Altman. Everyone's favorite dinner guest, I'm sure. Yes, yes. Also, you can't put off-record in the invite. On paper on the record. on the record. If you wanted to be off record,
Starting point is 00:33:28 make a phone call, ho. That's how you stay off record. Like, I don't know what. The oral tradition. Yes. But what appears to be a leaked copy of the invite has been circulating. Some people doubt it's real due to the poor design.
Starting point is 00:33:43 But it's, like, the poor design is like, man, it's so culty and midsomer-coated, like that, which is like, well, that's a real thing. What she is? What are you talking about? It looks like exactly her taste. Like it's very milk toast and, you know, vaguely threatening with like little like, you know, get out undertones.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Am I picturing a cup, a teacup with a spoon stirring in? Yes, I am. Stirring itself. Yeah, and it's right next to the invite. Like, I think it makes sense. Goop has made a number of pro-AI moves in recent years, including a 2025 video in which Paltrow declared that she loves to ask AI to provide her with recipes, which like that recipe is going to suck shit.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Like, yeah, that's, this can be so bad. Why are you even, like, that's just such a bad lie to talk to tell. And she also used Goop to hype drone warfare posting Ander Real Industries co-founder Trey Stevens on her podcast. So chic. So chic. It's just like, how does that, like, it's just one of those. where it's like how how do you perceive that editorially is overlapping like this warmonger arms dealer
Starting point is 00:35:02 and it's like oh i don't know i hang out at the same parties as that person like that's it's like first vagina candles and then let's talk to how how your drones work like what the fuck yeah andriel has worked with open a i on ai powered drones so and they're now pushing to some more military equipment to Israel, where Gwyneth has been shilling for luxury penthouses, as previously mentioned. So it's full circle. I do think she is, like, on a tier in terms of, like, people who are so famous, they, like, I would just love to see them interviewed in a unprepared way so that you could just see,
Starting point is 00:35:45 like, how out of touch with reality they are. Right. Z way. Z way. Z way. Yeah, give Zeeway. Gwyneth, you would be an iconic guest. You would be truly, like, it would be one of the best.
Starting point is 00:36:00 It would be like the Frost Nixon of the internet. Yeah. Like, my favorite version of that is the way Trump goes on a reverie every time he has to use the word groceries. Because he's clearly, like, never bought them or been, like, seen someone paying for groceries in his life. So he's just like, groceries, it's an old-fashioned word. It means, you buy it for me. store. Yeah, he's having to riff. He's like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:25 He does it constantly. It's like stuck in his brain. It's got to grow in there. It's so top ten papas. Why does this why does this reference always come up? But it's like, how much could have been it to cost? Michael.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Yeah, because that's the world we live in. It's just the fucking truth. It's, yeah, we're living in two completely separate realities. Yeah, there is a great, like, social post from her back when she was trying to pretend to be normal. And she was like,
Starting point is 00:36:54 guys, look at what like one week of SNAP benefits buys you. And it was like, it was like $40 tortilla chips, like six lines. Like it was like Arawan groceries. And it was just for her, she was like,
Starting point is 00:37:13 I'm trying to like live off of what the SNAP benefits that an actual poor person. would have to, like, try and live off of. And look at the groceries that I have for the whole week. And she was, like, so bad at it. It was just, like, just the ingredients for fresh guacamole. I can only get one $26 B-Poll in smoothie. It's terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:39 She's like, my lime, I thought this was just my lime budget. This is right. They're like, no, this is for the whole thing. She's like, oh, wow. You hear some wild stories about her. kind of what she's like in meetings, just floating around in Los Angeles. Interesting stuff. She's the human equivalent of white linen pants derogatory. She, I mean, like, when people came out with, when Nepo Baby became a term, I feel like it was a thing that we mostly used against like actors and comedians and stuff. And it's like, no, like the main thing that you want Nepo Babies to do is act. Like, that's what. That's good enough.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Like, NEPO babies are good at acting. It's the other stuff that we don't like. Yes, that's right. Get them out of food supply. Like, put them in there, on a theater, on a screen. So, like, they do not influence anything like politics, fucking AI, evil. Like, just stay. In fact, I'm so good at acting, maybe I should be put in charge of the world.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I mean, that's multiple people have had that thought. And sometimes it actually happens. It's like, we can't let. actors to just then think, like, oh, well, this world is equivalent to the other world, because, like, people will also go along with it. Fucking Ronald Reagan, like, Arnold Schwarzener. Like, all these people, Trump, like, it's all the same thing where you think that would be ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And then people are like, no, we love it. Donald Trump is first and foremost, my favorite actor. Yes. From home alone to his work is top notch. Tap notch. I think that one line or whatever was really potent. Grand Theft Auto 6, I feel like Grand Theft Auto 6 is a hurricane that is just like off coast just about to hit, you know, like it's just going to, like the news stories are we're getting the first drops of rain. And so Grand Theft Auto, a story that just hit that is very dystopian is that a U.S. Army unit in Georgia is offering active duty soldiers.
Starting point is 00:39:48 a four-day pass to play Grand Theft Auto Six when it's released this fall in exchange for re-enlisting in the military. Fair trade, I think. You know what? Go off, King. Yeah, they should get special privileges, you know? Yeah, that's right. In the world of Grand Theft Auto Sex.
Starting point is 00:40:10 It's so dystopian. It's like giving when they like tell Russians to enlist in their military and like that their wives or whatever, are going to get a bonus, and then they straight up never do. Right. Yeah. Does seem bad. That would be wild if they actually don't even give them the four-day pass. They're like, sorry, guys.
Starting point is 00:40:30 The demand was just too much. Anyways. So that's depressing. Did you guys watch the dirt bike chase? I saw a little bit of it. I saw that someone left gas for him or something. Yes. So there's a guy outrunning the police.
Starting point is 00:40:48 for like a whole afternoon on a dirt bike. And because this is Los Angeles, he was being trailed by like three different varieties of helicopter. It was like the news, the police. Gotta pollute the skies. Got to. They're just A-B testing helicopters up there. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And yeah, it was just, it was like I think it was in the same, way that the subgenre of Groundhog Day movies is fun because it like allows you to think of like, what if my reality was a video game? And like, I feel this, I feel like this was appealing for the same reason. It was just like, how long can you outrun the police? Like, what, how would you, how would you keep it going? And the one way is to have your friends hide gas canisters around the city. He's on the phone the whole time. Like, he's just outrunning the police while on the, phone. He's like calling and texting.
Starting point is 00:41:50 He eventually called ABC 7's own photographer as they were filming him live. And it's also a great advertisement for like why this version of policing is so bad. Because like he, the thing he was wanted for was like having an unlicensed gun. And they, by chasing him, we're like putting thousands and thousands of people in 50,000 people. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, do you think he was using his hands to call or was he doing like, he's, he's like rushing
Starting point is 00:42:26 down the street on his dirt bike being like, Harry, hey Siri. Hey, Siri. No. Ah, damn it. Yeah. He's like, call Jack O'Brien. He's like, calling Jill Stein. He's like, what?
Starting point is 00:42:40 No. Yeah. But I do think that that's how you know you have rider dies. Okay. Muffer's coming out here to hide gas. gas for you. Yeah. You know.
Starting point is 00:42:51 That was pretty cool. I know both of us would do that for Miles. Yeah. Vince, I don't know your life, but. I've actually, like, hid a series of gas cans between here and Costa Rica, just in case he has to flee for some reason.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Commitment to Miles is really impressive. In case it gets too restful in paradise. Yeah. Yeah, trying to, like, get those into the dairy and gap was tough, but, you know, It was worth it for him. I bury gasoline all over the city. Just bury it loose.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Boys, boys, both of you have huge gasoline cans. That's why I bury it. I don't want anybody know. Let's take a quick break. We'll be back. We'll talk about the latest hit movie in China, China. It is pretty ridiculous. It's a ridiculous film.
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Starting point is 00:46:29 See you between the pages. On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people. And they were like, you smiled at us.
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Starting point is 00:47:29 podcasts. And we're back. And first I want to talk about turtles, guys. Scientists have been asking the same question anyone who's ever gotten too high and thought about a turtle has asked, which is, wait, what the fuck is that thing? Why? Why is that a thing? That, that, that shell is like, the shell is, like, I think at a certain point when I was a kid, I thought the shell was like, something they found, but the shell is made of their ribs. Basically, like, pulled their rib cage out of their body and turned it into a little house to hide in. You never heard of outdoor ribs.
Starting point is 00:48:18 That's what they did. They made outdoor ribs. Outboard. Yeah, they're outboard ribs. Outboard. Yeah, exactly. But anyways, I think they're fucking weird. And scientists are, were confused, apparently.
Starting point is 00:48:33 They've been long having trouble. figuring out like what turtles are because they're so different from everything else around them. We're not like other girls. Yeah, exactly. We're turtles. And it turns out they're closer evolutionarily to birds than most, than to like snakes and other lizards. They're like a weird evolutionary anomaly. Is that just the thing whenever they look into something like, yeah, actually it's a bird?
Starting point is 00:49:03 It turns out. I don't think everything's a bird. man. They just got one guy who only studies birds and he's like, getting a lot of bird vibes from this. I don't think everything's a bird. Ben Smith.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Call me crazy. Dinosaurs, that's a bird. That's a bird. Turtles, that's a bird. Jack, that's a bird. Jack, that's a bird. I mean, could be. You never know.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I'm a big bird, bird call fan. Oh, my finest achievement. You know the Merlin Bird app? I love the Merlin Bird app. Yeah, I feel like once you hit like 37, it's just like, yeah. Are you guys actually so much older than I thought. My wife was using the bird app to like figure out what birds were around. And I made my hawk sound that I'm really good at making.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And the Merlin app showed up as a hawk. And I feel like that's one of my proudest achievements. Cooper's. Yeah, it's fooling the, fooling. Cooper Hawk or a red shoulder? I can't remember if it was a Red Tail or Cooper. It was one of the two. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah. Are you just going to start playing golf right now? Because I feel like that's what's about to happen. Sorry, do it again. I wasn't being caught. Forever. That's really good. That's really good.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I would have thought that was a real bird. Yeah. You and Merlin at both. Yeah. Wait, why is it called Merlin? Because it's fucking magic. He was always spotting birds. in between doing the magic stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:35 It was like the other thing that he did that he was done for. Yeah, I was like, I didn't know. He was like a big avian, like, hero. I've never heard of Merlin being associated with birds, but what do I know? I think, so you know how Shazam, like, you would, if you were just like naming that,
Starting point is 00:50:53 normally you would be like, music namer, song caller. But they were like, they knew what they had. They were like, this thing is like, Magic is crazy. And so they were like, we're going to name it. Shazam is like what I would say when the song shows up. Like kind of, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I'd be like, Shazam. Not. Shazam. Or I will start doing this now. Should have been called like Abercadabbird. Yes, exactly. But I do think that's a similar thing. It's such a bird cadaverous.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Abbird cadabird. Yeah. Yes. Abird cadet bird. How are we just giving these away for, free. Merlin called Vince and Jack because these are
Starting point is 00:51:39 great ideas. That's crazy to can you name any bird calls just like, have you figured it out? I go on my backyard and meditate and keep the Merlin on and then I try and like figure out which birds I'm hearing before I open my eyes and I've gotten pretty
Starting point is 00:51:55 decent. I know a lesser goldfinch from a B-Wix rent, you know? Yeah. You got a fucking butterscotch candy in that cardigan, Grandpa. What the fuck am I listening to? Give her a word of their send her on her way. No, go ahead, Vince. Sorry, you go ahead.
Starting point is 00:52:13 No, I was just saying, like, I have owls that took up roost in my backyard tree. Oh, owls are great. That's cool. Owls are cool. They're a couple of great horned owls. And you can tell when an owl is nearby because all of the other birds in the area are going absolutely apeshit. Like, other birds hate owls. because they kill them.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I found out that like Great Horn Owls don't actually know how to make nests. They just find other birds' nests and steal them, which I think is probably part of the other birds hating them. Yeah, that's king shit. Yeah, if you hear mockingbirds or jays going crazy, it's usually because, oh, the owl's nearby.
Starting point is 00:52:51 An owl's close by. Yeah. Have you seen them do the head turn? Like, oh, yeah. In real life? Is it incredible in real life? It's incredible. I would say the head turn is incredible,
Starting point is 00:53:01 but almost even better is the blinking because they have those like big old eyelids that kind of like work separately. Like what was that toy like a Teddy Rucks? No. There was like an owl toy that had like crazy eyelids. Furby? Yes, maybe it's a Furby.
Starting point is 00:53:16 They look just like that. It's crazy. Yeah. How slow or how frequently do they blink? Furbies and owls both look like shit when you take the fur away in a similar way. How many owls have you deferred? Oh, it's,
Starting point is 00:53:31 It's a king of us. You don't know. I'm a freak like that. But yeah. I've noticed crows also like when crows are around the other birds are usually like fuck. No, no. They're either not,
Starting point is 00:53:47 they either leave or they're freaking out. Yeah, here goes, there goes the neighborhood. Mm-hmm. Oh, man. Wow, racist much. Yeah, they are fucked up. I have a murder of crows in my neighborhood. That's really awesome. And they had a lot of babies.
Starting point is 00:54:01 and the fledglings this year were like kind of the goofiest I've seen fledglings be. They're just like real bad at being birds because they're new and they're weird and fluffy. You see their weird little fluff feathers fall off. You see them like tumble off roofs. They're just being so stupid. They're so cute. Those are usually so self-possessed. Have you ever?
Starting point is 00:54:23 That's why watching fledglings is so funny. You're like so new. Stupid-ass crow. Stupid-ass bird. It's our one opportunity to. to like clown on them. Have you ever seen a crow sunning itself? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:37 It's like the cutest thing I've ever seen because sometimes they just open their beak and they're just like... You can't see her, she's got her mouth open. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Yeah, I need to give people visual aids. Vince, did you see obsession?
Starting point is 00:54:54 I did, yeah. Did you understand the obsession of American filmgoers? Uh, yeah, I guess so. Ish, yeah, ish. Yeah, ish. I was like, yeah, that's pretty good. Well, over in China, they're having their own kind of minor obsession thing. Except on a smaller scale, both the budget of the movie that everybody's into and how big it is. But I do, I think this ties into an overall trend that we're seeing.
Starting point is 00:55:24 So it's a movie that translates to the cow is coming. New lie. It's not spelled that way, you freaks. But clip, so it was released. Like for dinner? It's just arriving, I think. I was thinking of, here come to Cal. Here come to Cal.
Starting point is 00:55:45 I was thinking like of my dinner with Andre the Cow. Yeah. Yeah. So came out, barely made $1,000 in its first 10 days. Clips of the movie started going viral on social media. because it looks like a Nintendo 64 game, but like with more awkward pauses. If a Nintendo 64 game was acted by an elementary school,
Starting point is 00:56:12 like play, like dramatic production, and it's gone viral, and now it's like pulling in bank in China, it became a cult phenomenon, and people are saying it held its own in the Chinese box office against The Odyssey and Spider-Man brand new day, which is a little... Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:56:32 It's not, I mean, it's made 11.4 million yon, which... You on, I think. You on? Let's go with you on. Yeah. And which is impressive because the movie didn't even have a poster. They were just like, asked theater owners to hand-draw their own artwork. And...
Starting point is 00:56:50 Dude, it's a vibes-based enterprise. I really like it. That was what they used to do in Ghana. And now those posters are like, oh, they're so good. It's worth so much money, right? Gotta turn it into capitalism. Yeah. So it was directed by an interior designer
Starting point is 00:57:06 with no formal film background who spent five years animating the movie on secondhand computers. His only collaborator was his mom who taught herself screenwriting for the project, voiced all the female characters, and even sang the theme song. It does feel like it's there, the room,
Starting point is 00:57:24 but it's like a little bit more wholesome. The whole thing cost between 40, $7 to $200 to make. Wow. As of Tuesday, it's made $1.2 million. It's such a wide range. You're like, well, it depends if you count lunch on Tuesday. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah, exactly. But the fact that it's a project that the person did with their mom is actually super sweet and precious. And I love that. They apparently knew somebody at a film distribution company who was like willing to do it. But I think like people are speculating that it's in the age of AI. people are like to find something that is just genuinely and authentically bad and fucked up. Right. And like made by people.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Has a human touch in it. It's like when like college students now like having to put typos into their essays so that they can fool us into thinking it wasn't just a prompt from chat GPT. Yeah. Yeah. Like Chris Crofting came on our show recently and was talking about how he was obsessed with finding coffee reviews. YouTube videos with under 300 views from like 10 years ago. And they're really like, they're very compelling to like go back and watch these things that are like unspoiled and authentically weird at a time when most of what we see in any capacity. Because like it's not just like, you know, it used to be a thing where it's like you go to the movies and you see this packaged entertainment product or, you know, you watch TV and you see these like.
Starting point is 00:58:58 packaged ads. But like now it's like people live inside their phone and everything that reaches you as the result of like thousands of levels of like similarly educated people using the same algorithms to create something that like, you know, feels unique but is terrified at every level of being unique and, you know. And is engineered to fucking death. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Just like the restaurant. The restaurant AI poster trend. Yes. Yeah, exactly. So, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:35 It's just I like it. I also like to look at China every once in a while and like see what they got going on over there. Yeah. They're cooking up. They're pretty interesting. They're kind of the main country now. There was just this chart that came out of like favorability of the United States and China in other countries. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And it just is a complete reversal. I was actually kind of at this point. Yeah, but it was like from 2023 to today, it's, I was actually shocked how popular the U.S. was at the beginning of some of these charts in 2023, but it's been a complete like just, yeah, the U.S. went from like 45% favorability to like 12. And, you know, China's gone up and up and up. We're really good at lowering expectations, though. Like this is just like we're setting ourselves up.
Starting point is 01:00:26 for like a face turn by the underdog story. Yeah, exactly. I feel like so you said this was an interior designer and her mom. Like are we sure this wasn't like, like, because I've heard that this movie like leaked out of a lab and it was and that was
Starting point is 01:00:42 out. Oh my god. There was actually a filmmaking lab like supported by the CIA over in China and then this was one of the movies that I will say. Perhaps located in Hunan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:59 We'll say state-owned Beijing news has been trashing this movie and being like, it's lowering the bar for movie quality. They're making us look bad, yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's allowing too much access into the medium, which is wild to say in a country built on like communism. Not the best, not the best access. No, but just is just funny to be like, no, communism. it's equal, you have nothing. And then they're like, we made something out of nothing.
Starting point is 01:01:29 They're like, not like that. Yeah, don't do that. No, no, no, no, no, no. Earlier this year, state media company, CMG produced China's first AI-generated animated film, the reunion journey, which critics say answered the question, what if Pixar 8 DreamWorks vomit and then vomit it again? So they have a, it's a good reminder that corporations can't engineer beloved
Starting point is 01:01:55 bad movies necessarily. Only people like Tommy was so good. Yeah, exactly. And then like when they try to do it, you know, like the morbius thing where they like put it out first as like, look at this good movie and then people are like, this movie is actually
Starting point is 01:02:13 hilariously bad and they were like, okay, we're putting it out this time and we're in on the joke and everyone like, fuck you. Yeah, that was not funny anymore. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's kind of funny. Like the Ashton Coochard Steve Jobs movie was kind of like that. Like the guy who underwrote the whole thing was like a guy who was known for,
Starting point is 01:02:34 I think distributing like real estate textbooks or something very strange and not related to movies at all. And I forget the story behind how he got. Maybe he didn't have to have the rights to a Steve Jobs movie because it's just like his life. And so he did like, yeah, just did the, the, the, um, Jackie Jumpjump version of the Steve Jobs movie. Actually, they never refer to him
Starting point is 01:03:00 as Steve Jobs. It's Stephen Job. Stephen Job. Dereb. Stephen Jirb. Stephen Jirb. Stefan, Jirb. Stefan, your
Starting point is 01:03:11 Apple's computer's phone is so good. Your orange music player is amazing. Yeah. I do want to say when I finally did watch that movie because I had no intention of ever.
Starting point is 01:03:26 I was like, this is a really long movie to tell you. He was like, just the bad dad. And I don't understand why we spent so long getting to that. Like, it just was not worth anything. Yeah. We did a Steve Jobs' Icons episode, and it's like, the main thing in both that, Ashton Coucher one and the Aaron Sorkin one is like, guy was a fucked up dad. He was a genius, but he was a bad dad.
Starting point is 01:03:55 And it's like, there's so many interesting ways he was like a fucked-up person beyond just like his relationship with his kid. I think people, men don't know how to give anybody humanity. And they're like, well, maybe they like him more if he's a shit dad. I'm like, yeah, you didn't think that through. And a bad one, I will just say. Hashtag shit girl dad. Bad girl dad. He, Steve Child.
Starting point is 01:04:23 would drive around without a license plate and just be like, yeah, fuck it. You can't give me a ticket? I'm Steve Jobs. And then would also always, like, as a rule, always park in handicapped spaces. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Just a thing that I do. That's a fucking choice, bro. Yeah, I'm a genius. What can I say? Yeah, I saw some Instagram post where it was about Mr. Wonderful, that bald guy from Shark Tank. Kevin. Yeah, Kevin O'Leary, I think.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Kevin O'Leary. See, I do it to Irish people too, Vince. That's right. Everybody gets it, yeah. Yeah. They're invited to the potato boil. No, we only have very few potatoes. You can't come.
Starting point is 01:05:09 You're invited to the potato famine. Oh, no, that's in poor taste. That was fucked up. Yeah, I know. He was like on a podcast, I guess, and he was talking about like, oh, the things I've, it was like one of those business podcasts. The things that I learned from Steve Jobs,
Starting point is 01:05:24 and it was like, he would email me at 3 a.m. and expect a response within the next 10 minutes. And he taught me so much. And it was like, what did he teach you? He just seems like an asshole. Did he teach you how not to do that? Yeah. Because that's what I got.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Yeah. Sounds like fucking sick, dude. Grind set. Grimes that. That guy is the worst, Mr. Wonderful. And if you want to have a good time, you can always watch the highlights from his appearance on Celebrity Jeopardy, because it's up there with Wolf Blitzer as a,
Starting point is 01:05:59 you usually can't tell much from those. You usually can't tell much from those celebrity jeopardy things, but those two are really, you know, next level not knowing shit. There's one thing that everybody our age remembers, which is the guy from Sugar A going on rock and roll, Jeopardy and just knowing everything and winning like $12.000 a trillion dollars and knowing
Starting point is 01:06:26 everything. You put some respect on Mark McGrath's name. Yeah. He's got, he's randomly has a couple of my favorite random TV appearance. Songs.
Starting point is 01:06:41 So he was great on Celebrity Jeopardy and he also had one of the most evidently flying on cocaine performances on a Like, I think it was the Wendy Williams show. It was just like some random, like daytime talk show. So much drugs on that.
Starting point is 01:06:56 And he was like having this like, Wendy Williams is nuts. This is crazy. I love it. Having this like manic conversation with himself or he was like, I don't know you're saying, what, Mark? And then I'm like,
Starting point is 01:07:07 and it was just like so wild. Like, wow, brother. He just couldn't keep all the rock and roll facts in there. It was just coming out. Anyway, shout out to Mark McGrath. somewhere relaxing in a pool with miles and uh man i bet they're having such a good time right now you guys yeah uh Vince such a pleasure having you on the podcast be here where can people find you follow you here you see you all that good stuff uh you can find me on my newsletter vince mansini dot substack
Starting point is 01:07:40 com i also uh am the food editor at fresno land we have a a newsletter as well called fat city I know all you L.A. people listening. If you're driving up to San Francisco or something, just, you know, stop in between. You know, I'll tell you where to get some good food. Free newsletter, Fat City. And then, of course, my podcasts are at patreon.com slash frotcast, which you guys have both been guests on the best. Hell yeah. Some of the best podcasting in the game.
Starting point is 01:08:11 That's right. Truly. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yes. This one is really good. I feel like it explains so much of, like, interactions on the internet. This is from Philip Seymour Hoffmanatee on Blue Sky. I was so excited that it was going to be our guy.
Starting point is 01:08:32 When you see a person on the internet that you think is cool, a fun way to connect with them is to be overly familiar and oddly hostile in their replies. That's so real. Oh, my God. Like how many? Yeah. Yeah. Sophia, it's such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you? And as there a working media, you've been enjoying. Such a pleasure being here. And you can find me on
Starting point is 01:08:56 Instagram at the Sophia, S-O-F-I-A. And as usual, I'm here to recommend a subreddit that will make your life better. And this one is lifeguard kitties. And these are cats that are extremely nervous that their owners are in the bathtub. And they are lifeguarding. within an inch of their lives. And sometimes it's just cats that love the bathtub when they're just in it. So, you know, if you enjoyed my subreddit are pollen pants recommendation,
Starting point is 01:09:32 which is bees when they've gotten lost in the sauce and the pollen's all over their legs and it looks like they're wearing pants. Yeah. So if you enjoyed pollen pants, you will probably enjoy lifeguard kitties. You're probably going to enjoy it if I had to guess. I think so.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I do like that that, because, yeah, sometimes your pets will just, like, watch you in a body of water. And my thought is always like, oh, they want to come in or something. But I like that fact that they're just like, this idiot's going to drown. Yeah. Because they're like, this dumbass is hairless. It's just trying to get in the water. Like, it's going to die in there. I think it's a fish.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Let's see. Where comedia I've been enjoying, huh? Is that what you asked me? Yes, we sure did, Jack. What would you like to share with us that you enjoyed? Let's see. I like to tweet from Trash Jones last week. Bachelor at parties are kind of like if they did an all-girls reboot of the Stanford Prison Experiment.
Starting point is 01:10:32 And then like 12 hours later was like, The Bachelorette Party on the At just discovered this tweet. You can find me on Twitter. at Jack underscore O'Brien. Blue Sky, Jack O. B'Bee, the number one Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore Brian. You can find us on Twitter on Blue Sky at Daily Zekeyes. We're at The Daily Zekeast on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:10:57 You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it, and there at the bottom, you will find the foot notes. Food notes! Wow. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy.
Starting point is 01:11:10 When Miles is out, we do like to ask Super Producer Justin Connor, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy. Yeah, this song has like a nostalgic kind of dream pop melody at the beginning.
Starting point is 01:11:26 And then the percussion comes in and it's got that jersey club bounce and lyrics about shaking your ass and it's just a fun time. So this is Cookie Kwai with vibe parentheses if I back it up and you can find that in the footnotes. Foot notes.
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