The Daily Zeitgeist - HAMBERDER RIGHTS! Oscars So...Odd? 4.27.21

Episode Date: April 27, 2021

In episode 896, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Jamie Loftus to discuss the guy who teaches police how to kill, the GOP being terrified that Biden is taking their meat, The Oscars, a Janet Jackson Super Bowl incident documentary by the Framing Britney creators, and more!FOOTNOTES: New Episode: The Man Who Teaches Our Cops To Kill  A day with ‘killology’ police trainer Dave Grossman “Are You Prepared to Kill Somebody?” A Day With One of America’s Most Popular Police Trainers The Origin Story Of GOP Outrage Over Totally Imaginary Biden Red Meat Ban ‘Nomadland’ Makes History, and Anthony Hopkins, in Upset, Wins Best Actor Janet Jackson Super Bowl incident to get ‘Framing Britney Spears’ treatment LISTEN: Dj Signify - Low Tide feat. Aesop Rock Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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dot com slash goodtaste. I promise your taste buds will be happy you did. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 1822 episode 2 of the Daily Zeitgeist A production of iHeartRadio This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness It is Tuesday, April 27th, 2021 My name is Jack O'Brien aka I won't go to Disney World Removed a few racist robots.

Tell me, Disney, now when did you last let ethics decide? I won't open my eyes. You're making blunder by blunder.

I looked over sideways and under. Where's my racist log flume ride? A woke new world. A new inclusive point of view. I'm here to tell you no. I will not go. You've ruined my immersion. Fuck Disney World. All right. That is courtesy of Abstrusal, the official dickhead, writing from the point of view of angry Disney dad from Monday's episode. Yeah. Execution thirst boy. I push for the death penalty. I want Disney to fucking

Help me escape my hell world Of being a fucking advocate Of everything that's wrong I've had the same issue with Chuck E. Cheese for years You know He's simply too woke Yeah you were saying I mean you are rocking a Chuck E. Cheese t-shirt

Wearing Chuck E. Cheese He's breaking Ruth Bader Ginsburg in half. He is both ripped and in hell. He's ripped and he's in hell and I feel like that's something that children need to see.

This is where I get your kids. It's not financially advantageous to make Jack's Chuck E. in hell. Embarrassing. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I'm Miles Gray! Yeah!

Gray! And today, I hit that bong! Woo! You know, that's true. Truer words. I'm one dimensional. I smoke weed and nothing else.

Thank you to the AKAs. Rob Cunningham at Math Demigod for that one. Shout out to him. That's so much cooler than the one thing that I have, which is pale thighs and drink Mountain Dew. Like, those are my two things. They're not. It's not coal gas. thighs and drink Mountain Dew. Those are my two things. They're not. Pale thighs, Mountain Dew, can't lose, baby. Hey, man, I'll run through a wall

for Coach Jack, man. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very face of Mount Zeitmore. She is the brilliant, the hilarious, the talented Jamie Lofton, AKA straight out of Brockton.

I'm an ice resurfacing Zami. Can't make an emoji. So people call me Yammy. Never called soft. That's not my dentist cough. My mouth was open and she sneezed with her mask off mask off that's from uncle brew shout out brockton mass every day uh all the time i was just i'm not joking i just watched a i watched a little poopy again over the weekend brockton legend i know how's

he doing it was an old video i was telling i was i didn't tell him i thought of something that i you ever do this where you were gonna offer something in a conversation and then you don't say it and then you think of it later like wait i want to explore that curiosity on my own that i didn't have the courage to say out loud and then i just watched the first little poopy video i'm like yeah he had something going little poopy was such a yeah that, that was a big local moment. Everyone was so excited. There's like, one exciting thing happens in Brockton every six to seven years.

What's been since Lil Poopy and he was on The Rap Life with Jermaine Dupri? The most recent thing that's happened in Brockton that everyone I know from high school was really on top of was that they filmed a couple scenes from the new Adam McKay movie about climate change in Brockton. Okay. And Jennifer Lawrence and Timothee Chalamet were making out in Brockton. Hey! That was pretty exciting for us. It's kind of fucked up because Brockton is used in movies every once in a while, but it's only used to be like, hey, isn't this a fucked up looking place? It's like the apocalypse.

Yeah. Brockton appears in the movie Detroit as Detroit. Oh, wow. A broccolips. Yes. Yeah. A broccolips now. But Brockton's misunderstood.

It's the greatest place in the world. And you know that because Timothee Chalamet was kissing there. Would he kiss just anywhere? I don't think so. No, definitely not. I miss Lil Poopy, but is he still out here?

I haven't heard about Lil Poopy in a while. And now he's like adult Poopy. Yeah, now he's like... Big Poopy. Yeah, he's compacted shit in the colon. Like, I don't know what he is now, but he's... He's Mr. Shit. Yeah.

Mr. Feces to you. Mr. Shit to you. All right, Jamie. As you know, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. I just want to talk about David Grossman, the sheepdog guy who continues to lecture to police precincts and the FBI just across America continues to be very popular. He is the worst and just seemingly a clear and present danger that eventually people will just be like, oh, wow, that's a bad idea. But they haven't yet. We're going to talk about how Joe Biden wants to take your meat out of your mouth.

Like to see you try, Mac. We'll talk about the Oscars what was that? what was that? there's a writer on Twitter writer on Twitter Kylie Brickman said that the Oscars right now feel like

if you got high and had a weird dream about the Oscars absolutely my experience they were all in a train station? Yeah. I know, it doesn't make any sense. Right. We'll talk about what the producers of that Britney doc

have in the hopper for Justin Timberlake's ass. And Jamie, before we get to any of that, we'd like to ask you, what is something from your search history? Weed. Nice. Wow. Okay.

Sorry. That was a little naughty to start the show, but I guess, you know, it's early. I've done this before, so I'm going to be professional about it. Power through. Ignore him, Jamie. Ignore him. You didn't absolutely embarrass yourself, you adult. Ignore him, Jamie. he's a weed head uh my search history i'm about to say the most horrifying thing in the world okay

so i i searched uh roller rue are either of you familiar with Roller Roo? No. Okay. So Roller Roo is a mascot for Skateland USA, which just had a location close. And I have a guy who DMs me on Instagram every time. This is like, it has to do with Chuck E. Cheese lore. I have a guy who sends me links to like secret auctions for when novelty businesses are closing. And so I found out this Skateland was closing and I got into a bidding war with, I don't know what they were going to use but i got in a bidding war over some mascot suits i don't know who i was in the bidding war with i have

maybe some ideas um that we were going to use them for different things right but uh i i ended up in a bidding war over these roller room mascot suits and I won. So now I have two. I might take the head down to show you guys. I have two Rolleroo mascot suits. What it is is it's like a 90s era. I don't know what sort of animal he's supposed to be. Kangaroo? Maybe, but it doesn't look like it at all.

He's got confetti coming out of his head. Sometimes he wears a flannel. They don't. Wait, I'm going to get the head. Hold on. Procure the cranium. It's like this? Hey, he looks like Rayman at video games.

He looks like the Cocoa Puffs mascot. He does look like the Cocoa Puffs guy. I don't really know like and now i i thought i was just is his hair pipe cleaners his hair is like yeah it's like uh pipe cleaners with fabric on top of them and they just sproing around he's very scary and they wouldn't let you buy just one you had to buy both or neither. Oh, really? Two of them. And I was looking to see online if there was any, like, canon for this character. Right.

And the only canon I could find is that he's just an employee at Skateland USA. Just a laborer. Just bought a laborer's skin. He's just bought a regular. He's just like us. But he's a gigantic maybe kangaroo with pipe cleaner shooting out of his skull and wears like when you google image search him he is he has no consistent outfit like a normal person he's sometimes he's in a flannel unbuttoned sometimes

he's in a tie-dye t-shirt sometimes he's dressed as a referee yeah sometimes he's dressed uh in like fourth of july clothes yeah it's uncle uncle sam drag yeah there's been an evolution based on a google image search where roller rue has had a few iterations over the years so on some level i feel like there is someone who did care enough about this character that we could find out more i want to know more and it's like i i would be happy to drop everything and and and come up with some canon myself if they need it because it does seem like he's been on a journey over these years and i had to we had to drive to uh to northridge to pick them up and we had to like

go into the the skate rink that was in the process of being dismantled and they were they had all these great celebrity skates there they had like a skate signed by wayne brady that said i don't know how to skate but thanks for inviting me really it was great yeah oh my god so you kind of impugned the motive of the person you were in the bidding war with you were like i don't know what they wanted this for can you uh speak to what you wanted it for i kind of can't i haven't really figured out what i want it for i i think i'm gonna use them in a show at some point because which is why i only needed one i was like oh i could definitely use yeah like a big goofy like unclear what this is suit for a show down the line so i was sort of like oh i just want it for that

but now i have two of them yeah which feels more pointed yeah and i had to get them dry cleaned and they take up a lot of space i don't know what to do here's what you do you do the prestige okay because now you got identical roller roof suits you do the fucking prestige with roller where you take advantage that you have a double suit and just fuck the audience's head over and be like that's i had like a bunch of when once i found out i had two it's like you could do shot for shot remakes of mary kate and ashley movies if you wanted brother for sale yeah you could have i almost want to have like uh yeah be in a roller roo suit for an entire show and then just have a big egg on stage and at the end a second roller roo

no one sees that coming yeah you know there's a lot of possibilities i don't know when i'm going to be allowed to perform again but also this could be a really COVID-safe way of performing because I'm wearing basically a full hazmat suit in the form of Roller Roo. I don't know. I would test that theory by going somewhere with biohazards. I'm good. I'm good. I got this Roller Roo suit on. No, no, no.

You need a ventilator. I'm right. A what? No, no, no. He's got a little net thing on his mouth. So what are we doing? Are we just taking down this fiberglass insulation with just our hands? Cool. I'll get on there right now. Hey, hey, hey. Let me just rip it out.

Let me just put my breather on. That's a roller roof. Speaking of breather, you said that you had to get it dry cleaned. What did it smell like? It didn't smell good. It didn't smell good it just like i hate my job it smelled like sweat and breath and like i can't i can't imagine like having to roller skate around in this suit because it's hard to even walk around in and having having a tail just just fucks up your center of gravity completely. Right. It's like wearing a microphone from an open mic stand-up night.

Exactly. In terms of the breath. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. But you're inside of it now. You're inside the microphone. The good news is that I got an incredible deal on them. That's all that matters.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? Something I think is overrated that is probably connected to what we're going to talk about with the Oscars later is displacing unhoused people and disabled people to put on the Oscars at a train station. Yeah. Oh, I can. Wow. I didn't think about what Union Station must have looked like for them to be like, get out of here. We got fucking celebrities coming through it sucked there was a lot of good local reporting about it over the weekend that what one is specifically is

alissa walker who's amazing but yeah she was talking to people who lived in apartment complexes nearby there's like a number of disabled people who live in the area who like need the access of the fucking train station to get around and instead it was like you know an eight block uh run around just to get to the train or just to get to the part where they can access it right yeah right with like no shuttles no anything and so there was just there were like a number of people that were just completely like, you know, at least a week where they just like couldn't access services that are, you know, should be a given. So that sucks. But it was it was interesting, too, because there was also a union discussion going on around Chateau Marmont this week, where I believe there were like other Oscars. It kind of confusing watching the broadcast, because I think they were shooting at a number

of locations in LA, but kind of trying to make it seem like it was all the same place. Sure. Which it clearly wasn't. But Chateau Marmont employees who have been trying to form a union for some time flew a, what do you call it like sky writing like a banner thing yeah oh did they write it with the sky or they were flying pulling a banner it was a banner it was it was like a plain banner demanding that they be able to unionize uh over the oscars yesterday so that was pretty cool but yeah it's just like with any of these events people

are displaced and especially where there there were you know, a number of people pointing out how like, you know, Nomadland is a movie about unhoused people and unhoused people were displaced for that movie to have gotten an award at a train station. Oh, stop, stop, Jamie. You're getting distracted. But Chloe Zhao, huh? I didn't see the movie, but it's like it's like oh no we lost sight of what any of these things are about it's so it's it just like it's very bleak it's such it's so frustrating uh and i'm glad that it was at least reported on but yeah just i i don't i don't i don't get it but yeah alissa walker had great reporting on it. And hopefully, I want to hear more about the Chateau Marmont unionization efforts because I don't know that much about it. All I know is the worst stories about the Chateau and what it is to work there. Terrifying, yeah.

People who don't live in L.A. wouldn't know this, but there was a massive hours long dog fight in the sky between the goodyear blimp and that uh union union plane it was pretty cool wait hold on um what is something you think is underrated oh this one is fun caitlin and i just re-watched this outside in my backyard for the first time in years the uh the other weekend uh it's an animated movie called the legend of titanic uh it's free on youtube it's the greatest shit you'll ever see in your entire life it was made like four countries made it like the it came out the year after james cameron's titanic it's a cartoon that combines like four different movies it has like basically the same love story from titanic but also there's mice on

the boat and it kind of has this five old goes west vibe and then in the movie spoiler alert uh there's uh the reason the titanic sinks is because a rich guy's butler intimidates sharks who live in the ocean. And the sharks dare a gigantic octopus named Tentacles to throw an iceberg in front of the Titanic. Tentacles throws the iceberg, then realizes the error of his ways. And when the Titanic, of course hits the iceberg right then tentacles so goes oh no i can't believe what i've done which is also how he talks which is really funny and he he sounds like look at all those dead bodies he sounds like no see that's the best part of the legend of the tit. Tentacles, using his gigantic, scary, muscly octopus arms,

holds the Titanic together and everybody lives. Oh, fuck yeah. No one dies. It's the greatest story ever told. Oh my God, and that is my octopus teacher. My octopus teacher is Tentacles. It's so good. My octopus teacher. My octopus teacher is Tentacles. The captain's on like the edge of the ship and it's like he, I don't know, everyone famously dies, but he really famously dies. And Tentacles goes, oh no.

And he like picks the captain up with this little creepy tentacle and puts him in a lifeboat. Don't be a bummer. Don't go down with this ship. I feel so guilty for throwing that iceberg at you. Oh, I love your beard. It's so good. And that movie is part of the Tarantinoverse where Hitler got assassinated

and the Titanic never sunk. It explains a lot about Pulp Fiction. Yeah, history is a little different. That's so awesome uh i would what if there were a time travel thriller what do you think the titanic not sinking how does that reverberate through our time oh like how fucked like anyway just a thought experiment. What happens if the Titanic doesn't sink? Where's that movie? The Titanic sinking also, wasn't that like a QAnon talking point for some time too?

Of like the Titanic sunk because bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. I'm pretty sure they managed to get Titanic involved into the Q-niverse. I think we'd all live on cruise ships right at this right we don't learn our rate oh like i think we never learn like at that point then it's another lesson about like man's hubris about like technological marvels that we're like yeah it's all good hopping that zeppelin baby yeah nuclear powered uh submarines and like yeah the nuclear war happened nuclear armageddon happened that's why we all live on these giant cruise all because the titanic didn't go down yeah so thank you so actually yeah tentacles would have done a huge disservice to society yeah by saving everyone on the titanic you bro you ain't my octopus teacher selfish i know what is

my octopus teacher and like that was one of those things where i'm like you know what i don't want to know it was tentacles is the only octopus i've ever learned anything from i've heard i've heard it's actually really good yeah i'm sure i haven't seen it but i don don't know. All I saw was like, okay, we get it. You held hands with an octopus. Next. Next. Oh, you held hands with the octopus. That's my favorite long tradition of Oscars, of watching the Oscars is being dismissive of shit that is probably pretty good.

Yeah, yeah. We get it, asshole. I said that and someone's like, no, it's actually like you think that, but it actually compelling and i'm like i'm sure it is but where i'm sitting high it looks like you just holding hands with octopus right i didn't that was one of the parts that i missed of the uh ceremony was the my octopus teacher guy getting the award but apparently whoa tentacles is a fucking freak and we do not need things like this on tv tentacles is a it's like a teddy bear that

lost all its fur and then grew eight tentacles he has a dog nose he's kind of this like squishy fleshy the head looks like an exposed muscle kind Yeah, the head is that of a fetus. The body is muscular in a way that octopus bodies are not. And also, like, flesh-colored. But yeah, and then the process of holding the Titanic together looks like it is doing some manner of MMA maneuver on the Titanic. He's fully strangling the Titanic. This is from Italy. This whole universe is brought to us by Italians.

And this is a part of a trilogy in which the third installment is called Tentacolino. Tentacolino. About little tentacles and has nothing like they it's such reading whatever's like reading has nothing to do with titanic anymore it was just like baby it says just to launch the three tentacolino is easily the most bizarre and quite possibly the worst children's film i've ever seen i have no idea what values or lessons kids are supposed to take away from this thing. You absolutely must see it for yourself.

It's one of my favorite bad movies of all time. All right, Tentacolino, here we go. There we go. It's really, really good. I've seen Tentacolino. I don't think I've seen the second one. Titanic, The Legend Goes On? It's a sequel.

How could it possibly go on i don't know the rest of that boat trip is pretty gnarly that is amazing fucking tentacolino wow tentacolino i know another oscar snub i mean if we're going through snubs. Yeah, let's see. Did Glenn Close know about Tentacle Nino? I doubt it. She's a plant. Did anybody figure out if they really made another Pinocchio movie this year or if that was like a typo? They kept talking about this Pinocchio movie. Look up the images from it.

It's really scary. It's also the second Pinocchio movie that director has made. It's The Life is Beautiful Guy. Really? Right. I remember when he made the first one. I don't know why he made a second Pinocchio. What's the

Guillermo del Toro Pinocchio? That's the one that's coming out this year? More Pinocchios. Of the three Pinocchios that are currently in the mix, the Del Toro one seems like it'll probably be the best one because it's animated, but Disney's doing a live-action Pinocchio. Roberto Benigni did a second Pinocchio

that is truly horrifying to look at. And then, yeah, I don't know. Oh, that's the one where it looks like this little boy has a skin condition where his face looks like wood? Yeah. And then they go the route of really adapting the fairy tale, which I guess ends up with them hanging Pinocchio. I was like, I don't know this side of Pinocchio. That's easy now. I don't know what the lesson is. I don't understand. And I don't want this side of Pinocchio. It's easy now. I don't know what the lesson is.

I don't understand. And I don't want to watch it. I think we're getting too much Pinocchio, y'all. I almost want to say that, but I don't want to put my foot in my mouth later. But yeah, it's the same as Robin Hood, where it's like this old open source text that like people there's just happens to be 30 versions of it in development at any time. Always. Yeah. Was it just because it's like what I call it?

Like you can anyone can adapt it. It's just like public media, public domain or whatever. Yeah. Is that it must be. But it's just like uh public media public domain or whatever yeah is that it must be but it's just like who gives a shit like honestly like i i mean like shout out to finn wolfhard from stranger things but like okay like wait finn wolfhard is the pinocchio finn wolfhard is pinocchio his character is called like something or. I don't know. Everyone's got fucking weird names, man. I don't know. Lampwick.

Yeah. Gregory Mann is Pinocchio. He's Lampwick. Ewan McGregor is the talking cricket. I don't know. John Turturro is Master Cherry. Christoph Volz doesn't have to be in this.

But he is. No one needs to be in this. Ron Perlman does not have to be in this. But he is. No one needs to be in this. Ron Perlman does not have to be in a Pinocchio thing. I get it just for voices. And is what, is Guillermo del Toro going from The Shape of Water to this film? I think that might be right. Pinoc? Yeah, I don't think that anything's come out from him in between. He's like, oh, fuck.

Too much fish fucking. Let's get these puppet narratives going. let's get these pup let's get these puppet narratives going let's get these puppet noses going i don't understand any i don't understand if there is like a big cultural desire for pinocchio that i'm not understanding but i don't know anyone who's like favorite story movie character is pinocchio no that was pretty unnerving yeah it's really scary yeah i tried to show it to my kids because just being like disney you know it's one of the disney movies they haven't seen they lasted like five minutes i think generally like all puppetry is creepy to kids because you can like do i don't know it's fair what do you mean like what's a

puppet though is a muppet a puppet well i guess so uh you know what i mean yeah ventriloquist dummy uh yeah from toy story 4 like they won't watch toy story 4 because of the ventriloquist dummies them shits are objectively fucking scary yeah yeah like i don't like that but like they were out on pinocchio the second he even made pinocchio like he didn't even have to come to life see like like it's too floppy yeah yeah there there's also a robert zemeckis directed live action disney pinocchio coming that's got tom hanks as geppetto and joseph gordon levitt is jiminy cricket i just don't think anybody wants this i'm not convinced at all cynthia

arrivo as the blue fairy that could be i'm just like i just does anybody want this movie i don't understand that's what it's it's a weird like talent laundering service where they just like keep people who are talented to working on something nobody will ever see. Roberto Benigni won that award and the next thing he did was a Pinocchio movie no one saw. And then after that, he was like,

you know what? I should do another Pinocchio movie. Oh, okay. So y'all didn't hear me the first time. Okay. So I heard you need me to be geppetto okay oh god yeah because he was pinocchio the first time right and then there was a jonathan taylor thomas pinocchios i've had enough i don't want any more pinocchios oh that's right jonathan taylor thomas the jgt

one's actually really good all right let's uh move on that. I will not sit here and let you talk shit about the JTT Pinocchio. Okay. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. In a galaxy far, far away. No, babe, that's taken. We're in our own world, remember? Right, in our own world.

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And we're back. And I wanted to, I guessed it on an episode of Behind the Bastards back in like June or July, I think. So have we. Okay. Yeah, no, it's not a competition. So what's your point? Okay, I think. So have we. Okay. Yeah, no, it's not a competition. So what's your point? Okay, just saying.

Anyways, that's all. All right, cool. I just wanted to bring that up. How many times have you done it? I was the one where we talked about cum. And Dr. Kellogg. I don't let Robert talk about cum to me. That's a policy, actually, in your contract, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I would not sign my contract uh so i guessed it on this uh this is my second appearance so you know i'm still trying to catch up and uh it was about this guy david grossman who goes around lecturing police precincts. I think one of his books is required reading for the FBI. Yeah. Required reading at the FBI Academy and at police academies across the country. And his whole philosophy is that killing is just not that big a deal. He's a former army ranger who never killed.

That's one detail. He never killed anybody on the job. So he's just here to tell you what he found. He doesn't even kill people. What he found from that. That would actually, anything we're about to say, the most devastating way to like. Bro, you never even killed somebody.

Yeah. Go to the sea of Oakleys that are sitting watching this guy and just shout that behind him. But anyways, I just wanted to play a clip because it keeps coming up in people retweeting that episode. And I don't think we've really dug in on this show. And it just seems like such obvious, you know know as we're talking about reforming and replacing and defunding police like the fact that this person is allowed to continue to walk around free let alone like fucking lecture on how police should be doing their job is pretty obscene. Like, and yeah. So I just wanted to play a clip from one of his lectures.

And this is kind of the lecture he goes around giving people. I am convinced from a lifetime of study, if you fully prepare yourself, in most cases, killing is just not that big a deal. For a mature warrior who's prepared themselves, mind, body, and spirit for a lifetime, for a mature warrior who's killing somebody represents a clear and present danger to others, it's just not that big a deal. There's no wrong way to respond to killing. There's many ways people respond and they're all the same and they're all okay. But if you could choose how you responded, I think you'd want to feel good about it.

Yeah. Yeah. This is the most dangerous, one of the most dangerous people in this country. Like to hear someone articulate it. First of all, you never even killed any, you don't even go here.

What the fuck is it? Where's this guy get off being like, oh, it's all good, man. You're going to love it. You're going to fucking love it. He studies killology, which is a word he made up but he's like look i can be a botanist and not be a plant

so what do you mean i can study killology and not be a killer this is just so yeah and i guess it really is that mindset this is the guy who tells everybody to walk around with this warrior mindset right because the world is out to kill everybody. Right. And he's telling the police a sort of a version of reality that they want to believe, that at least is easier for them to believe, that lets them indulge the instincts and the emotions that make their life more fun.

And he uses a very coded language, but he's essentially poor people is who he's talking about. And urban hellscape. He, you know, obviously just describing black people. And he also like talks about how after people report to him that after killing someone on the job uh they go home and have the best sex they've had in months what the oh so this is straight up this is like very straightforward radicalization yeah like it's straight up it's you're the the people you're

gonna interact with are not human you are actually above everyone else because he's a mature warrior whatever the fuck that is and then goes on to add like the sex dynamic which is also very prevalent in this kind of shit which is like dude it leads to best fucking of your life like it just like implies that like killing people is like a sign of virility and like it's yeah this is i mean it's it's like an escalation on uh just telling people to keep doing what they're doing. This is like, yeah, this is. Yeah, you're giving people the rational, the rationale and intellectual cover to murder undisturbed, like literally undisturbed. Like, you don't want to be disturbed by anything you're doing either.

by anything you're doing either and it's really it's yeah it this whole process of just being like by ham like i'm sure the repetition of being like a mature warrior a mature warrior because now you've put yourself in this like in this morality tale where you the mature warrior are traversing the fucking desolate wasteland that is the city uh having to fucking you stand up for the week and by murdering people and then right i just want to read this uh so mother jones reporter brian shatz went to one of his speeches and quotes from his like how he depicts like that the donald trump american carnage like right we live in a hellcape. Cars on fire at every corner. Just making shit up. This guy

takes that to another level. His latest book, Assassination Generation, says violent video games are turning the nation's youth into mass murderers. He talks about the wave of massacres is just the beginning. These crimes are happening everywhere.

He foresees attacks on school buses and daycare centers. Kindergarteners run about 0.5 miles an hour and get a burst of about 20 yards, and then they're done. It won't just happen with guns, but with hammers, axes, hatchets, knives, and swords. His voice jumps an octave. Hacking and stabbing little kids. You don't think they'll attack daycares it's already happening in china when you hear about a daycare massacre tell them grossman said it was coming so he's making up like violent acts and like putting just like turning the version of like of reality that these people see like their communities into a target rich environment and then telling them uh that

killing people is awesome is literally an awesome thing to do and not that big a deal that was so many dog whistles in a row like just one right after the other right after the other yeah it's happening everywhere just get i mean look yeah this is exactly why these fucking people are useless like we don't need more police they're just they and they continue to how many like we're gonna have to spend half the trending episode talking about the three people that been shot in the last week probably so you know what is all this for if the whole thing is you're looking right here when it's required reading of the FBI and multiple police academies to walk around in a stance, which is I'm going to have to fucking pop off at any fucking moment because everyone's out here to get me. And your role is to get the people that are out to get you rather than to go out there and help your community protect people.

You're never going to have any good fucking outcomes because of this shit. So, like we even bought i mean you know some of us get it too many of us don't though unfortunately to say like this is not the kind of people we want out there the fuck the dc police they just wrecked a bunch of cars because they were drag racing yeah like who the fuck what what serve what are they doing anymore? What is this anymore? Yeah. Escalation at all costs, basically. Right. Which is the exact opposite of what they should be doing.

I mean, I think the only way they can survive is to provoke the public to the point where there's such chaos that that's the only way they can justify their existence is to whip the public into a frenzy to then use our that term whip but like just to get the public in a frenzy to then be like see this is why we got to be here this is why we exist because we're inducing this also but we're going to completely avoid that part of the analysis yeah all right let's talk about what uh the right is focused on while uh, while actual bad things are happening. Anything, anything but the real shit, right? Because we're just, we just got talking about, just got done talking about how systemic racism is completely just, it's manifested in the policing system, which is now just killing people on a daily basis. So now they have to pivot because they don't, they can't talk about that. And I don't know if you saw everything was about plant based.

Something has been a big hamburger thing. Well, it all happened because of the Daily Mail. Wouldn't you believe it? The fantastic, you know, daily fail. They had a fucking article that read this is the headline. How Biden's climate plan could limit you to eat just one burger a month, cost three and a half thousand dollars a year per person in taxes, force you to spend fifty five thousand on electric car and crush American jobs. Wow. That's like a randomized right. That's like a randomized right wing headline. Right. Completely computer generated. I mean, I will say this. Yeah. Joe Biden's climate plan doesn't go far enough. I think many correcting that, it's going to need to be bigger than 50 cent, 50 cent, Hey, 50 cent, more than 50%. Plus the United States should actually be helping many other

nations who don't have the means to do this as well. Like that's really our duty on top of it, but that's a whole other show called We're Not Doing Enough. So, yes, this plan will get you only one hamburger a month, you piece of shit. That's all you deserve. And this is all because Joe Biden, again, I said Joe Biden is an enviro-terrorist who wants to just, you know, save our earth. But the reason they got this number about why you only get one hamburger a month is they pointed to this study that was talking about how meat consumption would factor into just emissions. And it's this one line they hung on to. Further reducing beef by 90% of current levels while replacing 50% of other animal-based foods results in a per capita decrease in greenhouse gas emissions of 51%. And because Joe Biden is saying we need to bring it down 50%,

they're immediately going to, you get one hamburger. So this is, I mean, like, obviously, this is the most ridiculous shit on the fucking planet. But it's just like, again, it's just cutting out, like, who are the actual main perpetrators of climate change, of gas emissions, right where i feel like that's like something that a lot of like uh you know just like on the ground programs and and non-profits have been trying to make people understand for a while where like yes everyone should be trying to

cut their emissions as an individual but ultimately it's not like an individual problem. Like you can help and you can like do your part and like more power to you. But it's like mega corporations who Biden doesn't tax adequately who are the main perpetrators of this shit. This is just so fucking annoying. How about this? What if you only want hamburger, though? Well, wait, I want two, though. What if I had two hamburgers? OK, I guess we're never going to tackle climate change.

I mean, now, and then all this does is again, because there's one study and they're stripping away of all nuance. You have people like Jesse Waters goes down. He says this, that sounds great. But what Americans have to give up, like, but oh, but what would Americans have to give up

to make that happen? Americans would have to cut red meat consumption by a whopping 90%. That means only one burger a month. Just straight regurgitation of this article. Larry Kudlow, who's famously all the drunk all the time, if you recall from the Trump administration, who was just like his Fox News idiot, who's like, you know what, Wolf? I don't think that's really going to happen. He's saying, speaking of stupid, there's studies coming out of the University of Michigan that says that to meet the Biden Green New Deal targets, America has to get this.

America has to stop eating meat. Stop selling poultry, fish, eggs, dairy, animal-based foods. You know, is it meat? Okay, got that. No burgers on the 4th of July. No steaks on the Barbie. I'm sure middle America is just going to love that. So get ready you can throw back

a plant-based beer with your grilled brussels sprouts and have your american flag call it july 4th green what i'm sorry call it july 4th green yep that's what he said all i did was the accent the words i said were not i don't know what the fuck and that's why other people like plant-based beer yeah i quit if they're gonna try and make are like plant-based beer. Yeah, I quit. If they're going to try and make people drink plant-based beer, good luck. God, what's your favorite kind of beer? Mine's fucking fat drippings from a roasted pig. What the fuck do they think is in beer? This is beside the point.

This is beside the point, but call it July 4th green is just so awkwardly phrased it reminds me of the the tony stark billboard from last week where it's bring back tony stark to life where you're just like we've got some words out of order here this is so it like i mean whatever like i i want a hamburger as as much as the next person but the the amount of like symbolic importance put on the ability to uh eat red meat is uh fucking bizarre like i don't well that's all again because they have they've they've reduced their ideological sauce down to the dumbest parts now and it used to it used to be a lot more liquid and malleable now it's just become this toxic goo where all they can be like is like what are you gonna stop eating me like that's dude

there's real problems we weren't talking about that yeah huh that's not the issue and you look at this fox news graphic okay that they put on fox news it says up in your grill biden's crime requirements as a picture of a double cheeseburger it says up in your grill biden's crime requirements as a picture of a double cheeseburger it says cut 90 of red meat from diet max four pounds per year one burger per month what what the oh no what is there i it doesn't make sense and it's like also that is such a silly looking like news cap. Yeah, that's so ridiculous. Well, they're trying to make it seem like it's a law. Yeah, the new world order has arrived.

You will now eat 90% less meat. You will have one burger allotted to you per month. Oh, I don't want to live in a world, honey, where we only get one hamburger a month. It's just so stupid. Move the fuck on. Also, keep the good name of grilled Brussels sprouts out of your mouth, sir.

Call it Fourth of July Green. I will call it Fourth of July Green. It's good. The thing, did you guys see Chuck Schumer subtweeting like just enjoying my plant-based beer you mean windmilling on his ass god politicians are so embarrassing but i do like do it seems like a big d democrat move to

be like oh hell yeah we're gonna like fight this culture war just because yeah they don't they don't mind keeping the conversation about bullshit like this yeah because right this is the easiest thing to combat in the world like everyone kind of benefits from this because it's like oh let's not talk about an actual problem let's like it's easy for chuck schumer to dunk on someone for neglecting to realize that plants are involved in the production of beer like it's just uh yeah and it actively distracts from like the policies the democrats won't i just yeah i think in like watching this enough people understand how these two idiots, idiotic groups in D.C. just keep the ball where it is and don't move it forward by just being like, hey, what about me?

Oh, which thing? Beers made of meat. What an idiot. What's systemic racism? I haven't heard of it. I don't know her. Also, thank you, George Floyd, for dying like this. These people aren't they don't give a fuck they're so it's just

as easy for them to begin talking about this left or right than to really get you know alien start alienating racist people by saying we need to completely rethink so many things from top to bottom you know i can't it was chuck schumer going to be like, hey, enjoying my plant based beer while I say what's going on with Breonna Taylor's killers? Yeah. Like, of course not. Yeah. Anyways. Cool.

Cool angle, everybody. Hey, but you know what? That's so tight that he was like enjoying my plant based beer because I wouldn't even know his plant based. It's so. Oh, right. i'm still breathing unclean air right i uh i hate i anytime centrist democrats are given a little opportunity to dunk online uh a piece of my soul passes away it's so embarrassing to watch especially to watch like facebook parents engage with it and be like, you go Chuck, you tell him Chuck. I'm like,

Oh me. Yeah. I'm pulling my kids out of the public school district. What's that have to do with the kids who go there? I don't know. Whatever. Anyway. Yeah.

Go off Chuck. I don't know. Yeah. Go off King. Love your nieces comedy. Technically cousins. Sorry. off chuck i don't know yeah go hoff king uh love your niece's comedy uh technically cousins sorry i would like to do an apology to the schumer family and i should have done my research yes you should have assumed differently when you make a assumption i was gonna i was gonna start a break but i think

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with our plant-based beers. Yeah, with my 4th of July green. And as promised, they were strange. We talked about how Soderbergh was talking up all these. He under-delivered on some of the things he said. There were no character arcs during the awards that I noticed. Maybe they were happening in the background. He said there was going to be character arcs during the uh awards that i noticed maybe they were happening in the background um he said there was going to be character arcs yeah he said he said that the

presenters would be playing heightened versions of themselves and there would be like character arcs that's a that's like a very like i'm cheating on my essay way of saying like yeah they're performers who are naturally going to be on when they have to read something out loud right very like it sounds to me like a galaxy brain way of being like if they're acting kind of confusing to you that's actually an intentional choice and not just uh like the situation that i that they've been put in please keep your eyes open for that right yeah that was everyone was acting a little off yeah yeah oh Yeah. Oh, for sure. I was looking forward to just watching this more than most because I thought like one way or another, it will be interesting. And like the second it started with Regina King, like doing that long tracking shot of her, like walking in, like it was like

a stylized Ocean's 11 thing. I immediately was like a stylized oceans 11 thing i immediately was like oh i'm gonna hate this because i'm gonna feel sorry for everybody who has to like go along with this for like i felt so bad for her like that was such a weird long like i don't know i mean she's a performer so she made it great but regina king made it work i feel like better than almost any i feel like regina king and laura dern and don cheadle were like the the top making that very bizarre situation yeah the cranston thing was just like what i don't know what was coming on there that i i went to pee uh I liked, my favorite, my personal favorite moment was

when Regina King said Borat 2, which I was like, okay, so Regina King does not have time to watch Borat. I respect that. I respect that. Some shit called Borat 2. She was like, I don't know. You tell me.

I was, I liked, you know, like, I was I thought it was going to be way more cringy than it was. And I think, sure, there were parts that just were like, ugh. But I will give it this. Because it was so odd, I watched a lot more than I thought I would. Because it was a pure departure from the traditional gathering of the egos which is what every award show is and i'm like it i think the heightened part just felt like it's nice to see people kind of be a little bit more on rather than like come out to the podium roll your eyes at the shitty jokes that have been written on prompt or open the envelope that it was just different and uh but other than that yeah it

was messy but i feel like of of all the yeah of all the pandemic award shows like none of them are gonna be perfect but it was like it felt like the most technically smooth i was like paying the closest attention there was no one on zoom on a bad wi-fi connection which i feel like has happened on every other award show, and it's awful. I thought that the green screens were funny, like when Sacha Baron Cohen looked like he was standing on a bridge in Australia. I'm like, okay, sure.

Apparently, this was the first Oscars that had below 10 million viewers, so right-wing media is dancing. Now they're windmilling. They're windmilling on the Oscars. Yeah.

So silly. It's like, yeah, of course, not as many people were watching it. Right. This was 100% expected. But also, I mean, like, shout out to Sugar Bear. You know what I mean? And the entire Experience Unlimited, the DC-based go-go funk band. You know what I mean?

Obviously, Sugar Bear, Junie, Juju, Mighty Mo, Keys. We all know the members of that band. One of my favorite. I'm Glenn Close. I'm a white woman. Was that believable? brain theory there is that glenn close knew she was going to lose and uh given what she was nominated for she absolutely should have lost for the eighth time and uh went to someone knew someone and was like if i'm gonna lose my eighth oscar in a row um i would like to be i would like to look cool at some point that's my theory she's like I need a moment because I keep losing Oscars. Oh, interesting. I wonder if Glenn Close's publicist was like, look, we know she can't win for this role, but give her a moment. Or like Laurel, like the writing team reaches out because they wrote the bit in the room and they're like, dude. And then Glenn, imagine Glenn Close knows about the butt. That would be hilarious.

And then they reach out to her reps. And at first, Glenn Close is like, absolutely not. I don't want to do anything. And then I'm sure someone's like, look, you're about to lose your eighth fucking Oscar in a row. Okay, you need something. You don't want the headlines to be Glenn just took eight straight L's. You want it to be Glenn Close kind of culture vulturing for a bit yeah in the award show she did do like a quick aside where she was like and you know the butt was not even nominated so

it didn't even have a chance to win an award which I thought was interesting like so she was kind of connecting it to her lack of wins I would be interested in the oral history of how this bit came to be. I feel like it's more complicated than we could possibly imagine. Right. Yes. And yeah, what was the tug of war creatively? Did she have notes? Was she like, oh, can we do something maybe related to DC because of

statehood and approaching statehood possibly? That would feel better for me, for my character. What's my arc in this comedy bit maybe that was she was playing a character that was the part that steven soderbergh was talking about he's like i don't know glenn close is going to be uh a very like cool hip-hop historian um and then everybody else just said no i mean you could see in the audience some people were like cool glenn close like i mean i get on paper like that's a funny

skit or whatever but yeah in practice like it just it you know she would have probably went went over great in the room and then yeah as it was happening it was like this sound this would be funnier if you were just joking about it with someone and it didn't actually because it had the vibe of a viral video you know is fake from the beginning right and you're like yo this shit's fake oh i get i look i get that the old woman got up and i'm not to say trying to say that disrespectfully um i understand that someone from another generation was like oh yeah i fuck with the butt or whatever and like that's blah blah blah but it's just again i'm like it's like an old it's like when betty white got back

into movies in like the mid-2000s and they're like grandma's rapping everyone like it kind of is that vibe where it's like we know this bit isn't real but then also i don't know i think that the whole broadcast was so disorienting that some people were like maybe it's real i don't know right and then like the ending was obviously very strange and abrupt and i felt like it almost made it the whole osars feel like an art film. That was like, it was like, and the ending will just leave you scratching your head and being, what was the ending?

Just quest love being like, Hey, thanks for watching. Well, no, the fact that, so they did best picture first, then they did the best acting awards and the best acting awards were the most anticlimactic ever because you know fern was not

was not having she was just like okay here's a a quote and then thank you for this and then anthony hopkins was not there and nobody was there to accept the award on his behalf and they were like oh and they were like okay bye i that was yeah that i mean i i guess like that is proof that they truly do not know who wins until the night of because it did seem like they were very clearly like setting it up for a posthumous chadwick boseman win which would have been like really beautiful and but but because they said because no one knew it it felt like there there was this big ending set piece set up that just didn't happen it was i don't know it was yeah including anthony hopkins himself didn't know he was gonna win to the point that he didn't show up or send

anyone in if i was anthony hopkins i would not think i was going to win. I don't know. Who am I? What could I possibly offer them? Didn't he become one of the oldest to win that? He's the oldest actor to win that award? We love our old kings. We love our octogenarians. You know what I mean? They win the presidency.

They win the Oscar. Anthony Hopkins goes live on Instagram a lot and plays his piano. So I wonder if that's how he'll be accepting this award. He's 83. Wow. Yeah, but that was incredibly anticlimactic and understandably disappointing for literally everybody.

And also I feel like it took Chloe Zhao's moment a little bit too, because it was like best picture should have just been last. Yeah. Could have ended on a celebratory cool note. Well, the speeches were offered like a nice moment too, like where they weren't just kind of rushing people off. Like they kind of let people speak, which I didn't mind at all. But I think overall the lesson from this is don't treat the format of these fucking award shows as sacred at all.

Like the way they're being done. I don't give a fuck. Like I'd rather watch some awkward ass high fever dream of an award show than like the again gathering of the egos. Let's all applaud and fucking fake laugh. Like just I don't know. Let me do something. Do something different. Give the shit. the egos let's all applaud and fucking fake laugh like just i don't know let me do something do something different give the shit but i think the lesson they learn will be the opposite and right

that it'll be to be desperate because the ratings were down and not take into account that it was uh angelina jolie has to be sitting within 50 feet of brad pitt for the tension yeah this year just shouldn't count like it's just like of, not as many people are going to watch this year. No one could see movies. I don't know. It's just so. Half the time, I was indignant or just upset. I'm like, well, yeah, maybe I'd watch that if the theater was open. And I want to have that experience again.

I'm like, I'm not watching no HBO Max version of all these films sometimes. I want to see them in the large format. What can you do? It's like, I would like to see Nomadlandland but i know that my attention span is not gonna it's not a living room kind of movie you have to like go and see it right yeah yeah i i think it's best watched well uh doing the new york times crossword puzzle i'm not not paying any attention has been my experience yeah yeah i i think uh if i had to guess they will ditch the no host format for next year's oscars and book elon musk to host the oscars and it'll be a ratings with grimes with and the oscars are all nfts

that they bid on. What was the NFT thing for the Oscars? I think that there was an NFT in the goodie bag. I'm pretty sure that there was... Wait, let's fact check this. I'm pretty sure that there was... Oh my God. That rules. Yeah, there's a

Chadwick Boseman NFT that officially... Yeah. there's a chat no there's a chadwick bozeman nft that uh official yeah yeah i mean huh okay huh i still don't totally understand nfts um but i know i'm i'm not interested in that's gonna be worse something jamie because uh yeah that's there's only going to be 200 of those and they're going to be valuable. So, I mean, in the end, the estate of Chadwick Boseman probably has to feel good overall because he did get that NFT. They got that NFT. So that's cool. Yeah.

The graphic for it feels like a fucking flyer for a nightclub like that horribly nft in the swag bag in tribute to chadwick boseman scan this qr code now like what it really does wow okay i'm get me out of here uh let's talk real quick about this uh britney doc crew the team behind the britney doc are now focusing on the Janet Jackson, Justin Timberlake Superbowl performance, which is definitely, I'm so happy that they kind of looked at the response to the documentary. They're like,

man, a lot of people fucking hate Justin Timberlake. Let's look into his fucking life. Let's dig into why. The documentary induced an apology from him where he's like, hey, I'm so sorry to Brittany and Janet Jackson. And I know we've talked about in the past

about how our recollection of that or the mainstream media's recollection of that is completely fucked up and one-sided. Disaster. But yeah, you're like, that's right.

You kind of left your girl Janet out to fucking dry on her own and she was essentially banished from media because of the Viacom executives and Les Moonves and all those people. There's a great episode

of You're Wrong About about that specific halftime show, too. I'm excited that it's actually going to get... I don't know. I mean, I hope Janet Jackson feels good now that people are finally kind of getting her some fairness in this situation because it is so ridiculous to look back on.

Yeah. And I know it seems like they're not back on. Yeah. And I know like there's, it seems like they, they're not sure if she'll participate, you know, cause Brittany had nothing to do with the other one either. But I think some people are also a little critical too, because they're like,

don't also interview people that's going to allow them to like revise their own history, like their relationship to what happened just by virtue of including them in this. So I think it's going to be a very interesting production if it all comes together. It was inevitable, I think,

given that Justin Timberlake's apology from that was like... And also, Janet Jackson. Hey, guys, while we're talking, well, Jamie, it's been such a pleasure having you, as always. Where can people find you and follow you

you can find me in all the normal places at Jamie Loftus Help on Twitter Jamie Christ Superstar on Instagram and I have a new podcast coming out in June about Kathy Comics that you can listen to or you can listen to

Lolita Podcast, Bechtel Cast, My Urine Mensa, Choose Your Poison. All award winning. They're all award winning and wonderful. They're all getting on base. You know why?

Because they're all hits. Hey. I get it. You know what I mean? I get that reference. Got it, my friends at Fenway? Jamie, is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, this is my favorite Oscars related tweet.

It's from Matt Bushell. And it's the screen cap of Sasha Baron Cohen and Isla Fisher standing in front, like doing that. I don't know. They were holding each other's arms for the whole ceremony. Yeah. And he captioned it. My husband and I love your energy. Mind if we buy you a drink?

Which was absolutely what they were giving off. Wow. Love your energy. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, Miles of Grey. Also the other podcast for 20 day fiance, some tweets that I'm liking,

you know, all Oscar related persons from Matt Lee, Matt, Matt Lee, Trent Reznor holding his Oscar. I want to thank you like an animal. Cause he did not get to say thank you. Whatever you needed to say.

He would, him and Atticus doubled up on the NAMI's. Wow. Yeah. And then the Lucas Brothers, I mean, their projects had a good night. But at Lucas Bros tweeted, we may not have gotten an Oscar, but at the very least, we probably got COVID. That's going to be worth something. That COVID that you got at the Oscars, not many people can claim.

At Union Station? Yeah. At Union Station. What a memory. Let's see. A couple tweets. the Oscars, not many people can At Union Station? At Union Station Let's see, a couple tweets, I've been enjoying Julie Clouser for some reason this killed me

like a quarter of the way into the Oscars, she was just like is this a fundraiser? Really kind of had that vibe. Oh wow that's great yeah really well made for the fucking fundraise fundraiser yeah fun drive i don't know fun drive fun drive it is for whatever brian cranston was talking about right for? For the Wasserman campus in Woodland Hills. And then Art Rivera hollowed at social practicer tweeted,

it goes like this, the fourth, the fifth, the whiskey drink, the vodka drink, the baffled king composing Chumbawamba. And I really liked that. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song we think you guys should go check out. Miles, what's a song that people should check? Just more boom bapetry. This is DJ Signify featuring Aesop Rock.

You know, this is just a good, love the voice of Aesop on this DJ Signify beat. It's called Low Tide. And you got to give it a second because it starts off real slow and dark, and then the beat will drop and you get your full rap flow on it. But have patience with this one. It's a journey. It doesn't just start off on one with a kick drum. You know what I mean?

You've got to earn that beat drop. Wow. All right. Go check that out and be patient with it. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending,

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