The Daily Zeitgeist - Hamilton NOT Accurate?!? 7.13.20

Episode Date: July 13, 2020

In episode 670, Jack and Miles are joined by activist and #GoodMuslimBadMuslim co-host Taz Ahmed to discuss Hamilton on Disney+, and more!FOOTNOTES: Hamilton is censored on Disney Plus; Lin-Manuel Miranda gives two fucks Disney+ Censors Cleavage From Episode of Old Disney Channel Series Disney Didn’t Just Buy ‘Hamilton’ for $75 Million; It Bought a Potential Franchise Disney CEO stresses Hamilton’s importance to Disney Plus in private all-hands meeting WATCH: Horace Silver: Soul Searchin' Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Fuck ESPN. Wow. And fuck JK Rowling. Yeah, fuck ESPN for making Woj apologize for telling Josh Hawley to go fuck himself. Well, the senator wanted the NBA players to back the blue on their jersey. What the fuck did this? Back the blue shit on the party. Yeah, in case people don't know.

Woj, the NBA reporter, par excellence of NBA, you know, knowledge, info, dropping Woj bombs. you know knowledge info dropping woes bombs josh holly's office sent a message to espn being like hey you guys should instead of putting black lives matter on your jerseys you should put back the blue and woes responded simply fuck you and then espn made him apologize because they're owned by disney uh who we'll be talking about today, again, as always. It's Monday, July 13th, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Ooh, baby, would you look at that turf? J.K. Rowling is a fucking jerk.

That was courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi, man. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I unfortunately drank cold brew too early, and I forgot to look up an AKA, so I'm just going to go with the old school, the OG one I always started with. It's Miles Gray, AKA Ya Boy Kusama, the black and these experimental artists. Shout out to Ya Yo Kusama. She's like every like trippy older japanese woman i know is like style icon or like they're all everyone's doing a version of the yayoi uh-huh i don't i don't i actually you're not familiar with uh no i'm not i need to every

time he's like yeah man i love that aka it's your boy Kusama. So good. Does that got something to do with Kyle Kuzma? You've seen like those gigantic like pumpkins that are like yellow with like black dots on it or like any installation that has all these dots in a room and people like taking Instagram photos. A lot of those tend to be usually... Thank you for contextualizing it as an Instagram post.

Otherwise, I would not be able to... Or what is art, really? Right. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented, the brilliant, Taz Ahmed! Yay! Yeah!

Taz, what's up? I'm so excited to be here. I have adrenaline pumping from killing a mouse I know With your bare hands right in front of you Just ripped it in half I turned on the zoom just for that Like oh y'all don't think I'm about this life

Bare handed You've got beautiful art behind you Made by you Really Snaps too for the art I say this and I don't mean to come at our other guests You've got beautiful art behind you made by you. Really? Yeah, snaps too for the art. You know, I say this, and I don't mean to come at our other guests, but some of our guests, the background, the wall is dry, blank, and I like the amount of, you know, I like that.

I like that. I like what I see back there. And some of it is your work too. Yeah. I would say 60% is my work behind me. Nice. Yeah, I would say 60% is my work behind me. Nice.

I'm actually always intimidated by how few of our guests have things or have blank walls behind them because I have such a bad, such bad me-sense scene in my Zoom that I have gone false background. Mine looks like the feds just tried to flip my bedroom. You have a piece of art behind you. Yeah, there's something. I mean, look, if we really want to go out, the walls in this home

are not bare, okay? I mean, I respect the walls with art in this home. We still have all our stuff in boxes. Because you never know. You can't have so many things that you can't drop in whatever Robert De Niro says in Heat.

Killer pop culture reference. Fumbled. Is that the one? I mean, I like the fire background. Yeah, yeah. I think it's appropriate. It's a good reference. Yeah.

Well, Taz, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We all watched Hamilton, I think, right? Oh, yeah. So we're going to talk about Hamilton. Seems to be in the zeitgeist.

We're going to talk about Bella Hadid having a post taken down for saying that her father's from Palestine. What? Yeah. Ah. So that just seems to be part of it it's interesting uh what social media platforms are sensitive about uh we also uh the person who wrote my aka today uh got kicked off of a platform for using the word redneck so very sensitive about uh that we're we're very sensitive on these platforms about uh you know white supremacists and uh yeah and anyone that's actively involved in an apartheid state but yeah that's uh let's let's make sure we consider the

feelings of everyone okay yes yes we have diversity of thought i I mean, how foolish of Bella Hadid to admit that her father was from a different place. And then that happened to be a place where I can only imagine what happens. Like, we'll get into how any of these things end up becoming hot posts that somehow the platform has to intervene in. That's bananas. All of that, plenty more. form has to intervene in that's bananas all of that plenty more uh but first as we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are um well i was doing a lot of googling of hamilton because we just watched hamilton but before that i was looking up i don't know if you know what beetle leaves are or betel leaves in um south asian culture is called ban um and it's

like this like leaf that is like full of either sugar or seeds or something and there's like one of them makes you kind of high i'm not sure um and then people eat it like after like their meal and they have like ban stalls all over the place in southeast asia they call it betel or betel b-e-T-E-L leaf. Anyways, I've been doing a lot of Googling of that. I paint, as you can see. I'm going to do another series on these leaves. And I'm excited to learn more about it.

Are they legal in the U.S.? Because I know the U.S. likes to ban a lot of things like that. Well, I mean mean it's obviously maybe the agricultural things but is that something you can get in the united states or yeah i mean i feel like you can get anything now in the u.s um it is legal right but i think there is an like a i think like a piece of a seed that you put in one of them and um it gets you high so like we and like when you go in south because it like makes your spit red so whenever you're in south asia you see all these like red spit spots all over on the streets and that's because people are spitting out the bond spit

oh that just happened on 90 day fiance where this woman thought there was blood she was in uh india and she thought there was blood on the floor and the douche was like no no they're just spitting shit out like that's not blood yeah yeah that's what it is that's the stuff you spit out it comes from the pine leaf wow have you is that something like is that a good way to sort of get over your meal like sort of uh lethargy after digesting it must be if it makes you high like if it was like something my like grandmother used to like eat after each right right right like a little bit high i guess i don't know i mean i like any you know local itis treatment uh because like in japan like all we say is like if you fall asleep

you'll turn into a cow but there's no like where's like our beetle leaf to fight i know transformation into a cow something okay right yeah you must have something. Cocaine, right? Yeah, yeah, or just drinking coffee. I mean, well, people love drinking tea and coffee and things like that, but as a kid, I would just be like, mm, sleeping. Give me my coca leaves or I'm not going to wake up. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated?

I got really excited about the cotton candy grapes have you heard of these oh yeah wait is they taste like it is that the i've i saw the term trending but i was like what is it yeah not grape cotton candy it's cotton candy grapes it's grapes that taste like cotton candy have you had them jack i have they're very They're very good. What do you think? I like them. They're very good. I just got them for the first time from Trader Joe's, and I think not enough people are talking about them. Yeah.

I'm going to say underrated. So they're usually a white grape, right? Yeah. A green grape, and they just bred them to have- This flavor profile? Incredible amounts of sugar, just like the most sugar oh wow has ever had uh concentrated in it which a lot of people like i one of my favorite underrated facts about just the world is how much of our food was like designed by people farmers over the over the

years just through selective breeding and agriculture. And yeah, they can design anything just using, like picking the ones that have the- These damn phenotypes and stuff. These damn phenotypes. You know what I'm saying, Miles. Hey, that's what we do with the weed, bro. That's how we get those killer ass buds, dude.

Seriously. But like, is it the experience, Taz? You went, okay, I'm going to hear about it. Let me get it. And you enjoyed it. Did it blow? So you're saying it's underrated because it just blew your fucking mind? Yeah.

I'm really surprised that more. I mean, like I did hear about it on NPR like a year ago, but I've been kind of, I'm really excited. I should say that I haven't had sugar in like three months because I've never had sugar out of my life. Okay. So you were seeing stars and shit. I was. I was like, oh my God, this is, if I can't have sugar, I will have the cotton candy flavored grapes.

You know, they also have gummy bear flavored grapes, which I was really confused by because is it like grape, gummy bear flavored grapes? Gummy bear isn't a flavor. Right. So I was like in the consistency yeah um so can i get are these only available at tj's uh or no they're at whole foods too oh okay so anywhere they're not paying people they're just like sporadically okay right everybody everybody

fucking suddenly forgot i'm still every day I'm reading about every supermarket, whatever, Aldi, the owner of Trader Joe's, being like, I'm sorry, bro. We told you it was a couple months. Oh, yes, the numbers are getting worse. Oh, it's worse than before. What groceries aren't paying essential workers? I don't know who it is, actually. I mean, you'd feel like we would hear about it because I know Kroger.

Yeah, that's true. They keep dipping in and out of the bullshit. I know Whole Foods is like that, too. I just read something about Trader Joe's. Yeah, it's like, again, there's so much in front of us right now to be like, I think this is a good time to draw the line and say, if you work at a supermarket and you are what we call an essential worker, that this is the minimum pay. Can we make this a law? Seriously. Then there's another story, too.

I think at the Washington Post, someone else that was sort of talking about some emails they recovered about the lobbying effort in states like Florida and stuff, where you're seeing the lobbyists for the Chamber of Commerce emailing directly to the governor and being like, hey, man, look, here's the deal. We got to make sure there are legal protections for these employers first before we even talk about reopening. Then we can talk. Florida. It's just, you know. It's awful. It's always someone else writing the laws. You see the law firms that are already working with the GOP

on, you know, invalidating mail-in ballots, got PPP loans. No, I did not. Yeah. Gotta take care of the essential workers. I mean, if Devin Nunes' case about the Twitter cow is any indication of the kinds of legal minds the GOP is able to wrangle around for like their on-its-face,

completely like meaningless lawsuits that are just like slow shit down i think it'll be it'll slow things down i don't know how interesting the case will be because even like the supreme court decision with the trump administration just like yeah the daca thing like you just didn't even use like a legal argument you just ended it so like i don't know what you think we were gonna do like this is still kind of a court documents too yeah you still like laws are still a thing yeah you never know unfair to me there's so many judges they've been stacking the courts with that you'll see like because i'm sure that a lot of people have been talking about how some states will try and certify their the republican party will try and certify their own results before the secretary of state like in a state like michigan or something where it's uh their democrats hold

those positions but brace yourself it's gonna be such a shit show um yeah i'm not i'm not looking forward it's i mean they stole like even though uh i think bush did end up having the more votes in florida uh when they did the like very careful recount, that had nothing to do with why they won. They won because they had more better lawyers and just outlasted the Democrat lawyers. And we're shrewder, which we have seen time and time again. They have an insurgent mentality because they don't have the actual populace on their side. So they know how to cheat. They've been doing it for years.

Yeah, for years. They're better at it. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? I'm going to say Kanye West running for president. Oh, come on. Have you seen his platform? Did you hear his three presidential

freestyles he dropped on Forbes? I did not. Would that change my mind? If you didn't vote for him now, you definitely won't now after hearing that shit now. It's dark. Elon Musk

has backed out of supporting him after being like full support you got my full support and someone's like uh you know he's like an anti-vaxxer and like anti-abortion he's like ah i guess i guess there are more differences than i had anticipated i will i must reconsider it's like sure so good at a certain point if you're like hey you're a billionaire i'm a billionaire like we're cool dudes like then we have the exact same worldview right and he's not he did like i mean just like i so i work in the world of politics just the whole like he hasn't actually got the signatures in the right state deadlines may it met yeah none of it so it's it's just like you know it's a potential you know right in chaos

harambe type candidate yeah you know like last time people voted fucking wrote in harambe uh so that's right kanye west may be that but don't get it twisted if if you any listeners out there if you hear a young person even pretend to act like they will vote for him smack the shit out of them slap them and be like i like that we all had this yes smack the shit i was just picturing a young person being smacked so hard the vape comes out of their mouth the three stripes come off their geezies but the whole it is really something i mean the there's also reports you know that now his family like he's having another episode uh because he hasn't taken his medication and like i mean the the things that he's saying you know are not real political views there are a lot of just emotional things and he's

just sort of free associating and what they call interviews but yeah uh, you'd hope that every time we've been talking about, I mean, I think since like the second MAGA thing, we're like, okay, this person just, this man needs help and he's just not getting it. And he just continues to be allowed to operate and has a group of

enablers who like, yeah, dude, that was fire. Yay. That was fire, dude. The way you said you're going to run for president.

That was fire, dude. That was fire. Uh, don't worry about your meds. They make you, their creativity is stifled and that's one of the reasons why he said he doesn't take it so it's just tough and i you know

there's so many very creative people who uh take the medication that is prescribed to them like you you have to yeah i don't know that that's a myth. I think it did. I'm going to throw in there. The very least, you know, these, like, Forbes should know. But again, this is why the media, you know, they need to have the interview where he sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about. And he's saying that vaccines are trying to prevent your child entry to heaven, that that's what it is. Like, it's all about this, like, satanic versus Jesus God kind of thing. That that's what it is. Like, it's all about this, like, satanic versus Jesus God kind of thing. But then they, but Forbes gets to do it and they get all the traffic because they have, like, these three quote unquote freestyles where he's just, like, just saying shit rhythmically.

Yeah. And finally, what is a myth? What is something you know can be false that people think is true or vice versa? I would say a myth is that mouse traps work because mouse traps do not work i have like a gazillion of them around my apartment and um yeah that mouse was not getting caught in any of them but you asked us to call you the human mouse trap uh when we started this call right You just grab them with your bare hands and snatch them up. Beat it off. Just Ozzy Osbourne, but the mouse version.

I've been dealing with mice for... I've had mice in my apartment once four years ago, but ever since the pandemic started, there's so many... The infestation of pests is just through the roof i heard you know because of the pandemic mice don't have food to eat so they're just kind of right going to all these apartments that was the yeah like the big story in new york those first two weeks were like the literal rat wars that were happening in manhattan because like it once the

food dries up they go in search of other food and then they turn up on some other rat turf and there's rat war. Yeah. Apparently Koreatown is like New York. Right. Yeah. It is kind of like New York. It's probably the closest thing we have.

Oh, just sort of like with more high-rise apartments and sort of like architecture. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm having some battles with the flies. The flies are coming in. I got one of those electrified fly swatters. Oh, she just busted it out.

Yeah. She pulled it out. That's just fun. Mine's called the Executioner. Wow, I didn't, and it comes with a hood that you just put over your head. Oh, yeah, who would have known?

Great marketing. Fucking Serena Trillium's over here ready to fuck these flies up. Yeah, I like the salt shotgun. That one is more, that one's fun. Oh, yeah? Yeah, because that just like,

basically like you cock it once and it just, I mean, it's probably the least humane because it's just like destroying their wings, like with the buckshot of like the grains of salt. But this is the this is the world we're in right now. So I have not seen this. I'm Googling it right now. Yeah. Like look for it's like, I don't know, fly salt shotgun.

That's that's one that I've never successfully uh gotta fly with the bug assault as it's called yeah the bug it's probably made by some fucking former blackwater child murder so i should probably not even talk about it like i can't imagine the backstory to a thing where a guy's like what if you applied the principles of the buckshot in a shotgun that you could just, you know, use at home and kill a fly with, man? Because that shit is cool on an insect. Do you have one of these? Do you have the holster? No, I had it, like, at an old office and at another, like, at another apartment I had, like, someone had it and I would use it.

But I, now at the moment, I am bug assaultless. I try and use either my bare hands or a towel. Oh, of course. The bare hand one is like Jack said, that old Clyde Frazier anecdote. Man was so cool, caught a fly with his bare hands and then let it go. And I always try and impress my uh yeah my partner her majesty with it and she just thinks it's so stupid i'm like i caught it with my hand did you see did you see and she's like you do catch it with your hands oh yeah i can catch a

fly with my hands with one hand yes yes i can catch you are cool but but here's the thing watch me spend fucking 45 minutes listening to Bodega Boys in my headphones running around my house like an idiot. It's not like I just come in and snatch this shit out. She's like, yeah, fool, you wasted half a day. Also, go outside and release

your hand. I bet you didn't get that shit. Cut to me opening my hands. I didn't get that shit. My friend's wife made fun of him one time for doing the thing where he would grab it and then release his hand very slowly and there wouldn't be anything. It's not even there. Oh, I've done that so many times.

Yeah, Walt Frazier from the 1970s Knicks, one of the more underrated NBA players and the most underrated announcer because he's just absurd. But he would just walk into a room and slowly reach out and grab a fly, shake it in his hand, release it. And he was like, and kids thought that was cool.

I was like, I think that shit's cool as hell, man. That was in one of his books of like how to be cool. It's like, man, not everybody can do that. The 70s, yeah. And also nobody has a fucking like hand span of like 14 inches, probably like he did. Like don't discount the size of an MB, like any man over six

foot three or four is hand size it's it gets out of control yeah yeah that was one thing that i feel like was i i hadn't fully appreciated about jordan until the uh last dance was just hand size like the his hand just reached all the way around that ball right um also flies in the 70s notoriously slow yeah we wouldn't know actually that's that's one of those things that we we would have no idea if flies were uh speeding up it turns out that the guy who created the bug assault is a is from southern california is a surfer and yoga enthusiast what oh? Oh, hell yeah. And he's just like an inventor, basically. But I don't know. I don't need to do much of a deep dive

into this kind of thing. I feel like all roads lead to darkness. Tune in tomorrow when that guy's our guest. I feel like you really need to invest in one of these rocket smiles. I know. But I feel like every time there's one of those around, people end up hitting each other with them.

Oh, I've never done that before. Oh, that's where shit goes left with those electric rackets. You start smacking people with them. But it's not that bad. I've managed not to hit anybody with mine. Oh, no, I mean intentionally. It turns into a drunken game of, I'm going to wave the electrified tennis racket at you.

Right. Does it hurt? I'd imagine it does. The spark is so satisfying though. When you hit the fly with the electric tennis racket, you hear a loud pop which is like what killing flies should always feel like. There should always be a loud

pop like you're popping a balloon. Then you get, sometimes it'll stay on the racket and you just get it sparking so fulfilling because so I'm not doing it like needlessly to torture the fly it's actually like sometimes you'll hit the fly

with the shock it'll hit the ground and if you don't like go and get the tissue right away to come pick it up, it'll get back up. It just stuns it for a second. Ah, right. But if it gets stuck in there, it starts smoking, and then you get your little glass tube out,

you start freebasing that smoke off. Oh, that's so gross. Fly smoke. Sorry, I smoke. Sorry. That's so gross. Just hearing the two of y'all be like, yeah, and then that shit gets smoking. I'm like, okay. I thought I was bad when I was like, I'm shooting the shit out of their wings and they're fucked up.

Everyone has a weird way of dealing with insects, you know? Yeah. All right, guys, let's take a quick break and come back and talk Hamilton. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.

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with some close-ups here and there. There were a couple where they definitely had a camera up on stage to get some dramatic. Came in a little tight. Yeah. What was you guys' experience with Hamilton? Well, go ahead, Tess.

I have avoided Hamilton for the past four years completely. Me too. Up until this point where I watched it last night. Me too. For you guys. Very excited to hear what you guys thought. I did it for you guys.

I say I knew it was big, but every musical that comes out, I just don't care because the genre of musical does not appeal to me personally. I totally understand its care because I'm, I'm the genre of musical is, does not appeal to me personally. Like I understand, I totally understand its appeal because they are like, it's a nice experience to watch a book. I don't get, that's not how I get my jollies.

So I'm just like, all right, fine, cool. Like it's hip hop. Great. But I don't watch musicals. So thank you.

And then, yeah. And then, but it coming back now and it being like it just used to be a thing where like you had to get a ticket to go see and i'm like yeah don't give a fuck and like all the people i knew who were like i'm going to hamilton i'm like i don't really have that much in common with y'all so shout out to y'all but like so on that level i was very it was enormous with people who subscribe to the new y Times and listened to Crooked Media Podcast.

I feel like. It was the dad from Get Out's favorite musical. It was enormous with other people, too, though. My little sister, who is not into politics and American history, was really into it. And I'm just like, I'm so confused by that. I think that's more like the perception that it was only big with people who go to Broadway plays. But like kids, it is like a Harry Potter level phenomenon with younger kids. Like younger kids really fuck hard with it. Yeah, I think and that's to its credit, because I remember the thing that I noticed was it was more people than normal.

Like usually there was the musical set or people who like theater who I would hear talk about it and then it reached like a tipping point when I was like you've never even been to a fucking like what the fuck right yeah seriously and then so I was like okay I'm sure the music is good but it just sort of ended my curiosity ended there because there's something about a musical man i just like it's embarrassing it's weird and yeah and i don't mean to be like it's like you're dumb for like in a musical like to me there's just something about a a production the the sort of like seamlessness between like drama then to like these big sort of like numbers like the flow like dramatically is a little like like wonky for me and i think that's also because i can't just put like that suspend suspension of disbelief

about like how a musical even operates when i'm like this motherfucker just wouldn't start singing right but that's um like well in this case they never stopped singing so yeah you can kind of get through so i don't know i feel like i was to say, I just feel like I had a really hard time. I had to have the Wikipedia entry open so I could follow along with the summary. And then I had subtitles on. And I just think that when the music is going and there's words,

I was just having a hard time following along. I was like, wait, what's happening? There's so much happening. Yeah, there is a ton happening. It is like a little Shakespeare-y in the sense that the language is highly affected, and so you need to probably hear it a couple times to fully understand what's going on. I actually think listening to the soundtrack is an ideal way.

Cause then you're not distracted by what's happening and you get the entire story with just the soundtrack. So I recommend that to people who don't feel like sitting down and, and watching a thing like the soundtrack tells you the whole story. I think it's, I think it's worth watching though. I think don't for sure. Don't like, if you're whole story i think it's i think it's worth watching though i think don't for sure don't like if you're gonna engage with it you might as well fully see like the actual production because yeah i think this you know the the the reason it's back up and it's

just interesting i think this is probably where most of the bulk of our conversation is going to be about is that like it came out in 2016 or like that was its peak and there was a certain level of discourse or public consciousness around what anything meant back then where this was like fun and very neutral and great great great we love it cut to now it's having it's coming back out again a lot of people who haven't seen it are seeing it we're like okay and there are people there was valid criticism of it back then, more about its historical accuracy and its depiction of women and the characters within that and what it meant to,

what there were no people of color in it, in terms of historically represented, aside from a wink at Sally when there's a Thomas Jefferson joke. But that was the thing that I found myself, I'm like, man, this is gonna be stupid. And I'm like, damn, the fucking music's good. The fucking, the production itself is good i like i completely understand why it connects with

anyone who watches it because it's like hard to not like the the every the performances are great the numbers are great but i think that's where the the danger is more like if if we just take hamilton as being like a historically accurate anything right i think it's i think it's really a piece of the moment of the obama administration and like how liberal people wanted to think about america as obama was kind of coming to power. And in fact, he first performed like he it took him a couple of months to write the very first song. That's like the beginning of his life. And he went to the White House, Obama's White House, and performed that like that was the first anybody had heard of the what eventually became the play. But so it is i i feel like it's kind of inextricably tied to the obama administration and that sort of sensibility and but i also think

like that it didn't bother me as much like there there are definitely parts where like the fact that we're watching and rooting for the guy who created america's banking system is like on the one hand sort of fucked up because yeah uh but on the other hand it is such early stages and who the fuck knows like you know what would have happened if he hadn't like whether that needed to happen to make america you know have any of the good things that it has but yeah the slavery stuff is really like kind of lost over for sure yeah because i mean the schuyler family were slave owners and oh hamilton definitely had a hand in employing slaves. You know,

there's not a lot to say whether he was fully anti-slave. I mean, it can go both ways, but it's, you know, there's a, there's like a moment where he's like taking shots at Thomas Jefferson for like being a slave owner.

It's like, bro, you're booed up with a slave owning family. Like you slaves work for you. Like you're up in it. You worked on a slave ship as a child. Okay. If like, we're going to go way back. And even like George Washington, like slaves work for you like you're up in it you worked on a slave ship as a child okay if like we're gonna go way back um and even like george washington like it's like you're not even hold

on your boy george washington also the man has slave dentures but right but but again this is the thing it's like i get it because as a musical like how are you gonna get you can't really take anything i think that's the problem with doing a musical about anything historical because like there's a lot of probably deep deep societal implications and ramifications like like the material you're doing versus like it's not just about like steve bartman who fucked up the cubs chance to go into the world series like very narrowly like yeah like maybe you can fuck around and tell that a different way but like a country is there a musical about that no but that would be somebody do the bart man do the bart man oh that's great but i mean like with this we're talking about the

founding of a country that was built on racism and the concept that landed white men were the only holders of power or agency in this country like that's a little murky to try and like sing and dance around a little bit yeah uh i still yeah i want to say like all all of these criticisms are true i still give it like five stars it gets me every time like i've it fucking as a piece of work it you know you have to go in just from a critical standpoint you know watching a movie that is actually just a play like you have to like the the whole point of a play is that you're taking interiority like what's happening inside people's minds and like exploding it across a stage

so even people in the back can see it. So like it's not subtle. Like the performances are not like the same movie performances that you would typically think of as a good movie performance, but they're still like great performances. The guy who plays Burr is is leslie odom jr leslie odom jr oh he's so good so that's what's wild though because i again musical hater but like i would be lying if i didn't say there are songs that like i really didn't like and i think that's

what's interesting about it is because if you if you just look if you can take all the detail out and like these songs and the musical numbers and the production like yeah it absolutely deserves every plot it gets as a musical production uh yeah and you know Lin-Manuel Miranda himself said because as this was coming back and people were like have y'all actually seen Hamilton like this is kind of interesting there um yeah he was basically saying like yeah man it was a long time ago uh yeah like trying to deal with something this complex and put it in a two and a half hour musical like yeah you're gonna miss a lot and he's like so this is all fair game like all this criticism is fair game so i mean credit to him and i think that's why it's it's not while

i have many criticisms of the historical accuracy i'm like if i can just if i treat it as this musical fine if i want to go back further like you know because i believe he was working with a historian who was a white male historian who was like you know seen as like an expert on alexander hamilton for the historical things and even in that man's writing there isn't a lot of references to the people of color that actually existed around him. And even the contributions of black people, people of color during the revolution,

like they people fought for the, for on the side of the Patriots. So it's also weird too, because then you're like, well, but the cast is all people of color, but you're still telling the story of white people just with right with black and brown bodies so it but then but

there's no reference to actual people of color who also have historical significance so that's when like you start getting a little like wound down about how it could have been more but that's where it's like what what's the most what can been more but that's where it's like what what's the most what can we actually expect that's where i'm even thinking like what can i even expect from a musical because a musical isn't the place where you know lin-manuel moreno's gonna sit down and like there's gonna be a whole musical about how george washington's dentures were pulled teeths of african slaves like that's really not the the stage that. That's the next musical. Yeah, right.

I mean, it could be. It could be, yeah. Maybe he'll learn from this. I mean, the way this musical came about is he read this biography by, I think, Chernin, I think is the guy's name, that was like a bestseller about Alexander Hamilton. And he, well, Miranda read it on vacation and came back and was like yo this

is a dope story that i think a lot of people would be interested in and just started like adapting it so it's not like a thing where he i don't know set out to make a broad political statement like there there are some issues with this that are purely like the wayne's world of like where it became so successful and it connected with such a broad swath of the population that it like can't possibly be cool anymore like the fact that the fact that the room where it happened uh has become a phrase used by john bolton in his like book about the trump white house is like yeah i mean that's like you know dan quayle having a book called schwing or something after the wayne's world uh became like the number one movie of pop culture ever. It's just,

it's not, you can't really help that. And you also like that, I think applies to the purpose and thesis of the play. Like I am definitely interested in seeing what he makes next. Uh, although I know, I know it takes like a long time to, to write these things.

Like six years or something. Wasn't it? Wow. Yeah. It's like six years or something, wasn't it? Wow. Yeah. He's really good at, I don't know if y'all have seen Moana, because that's a- Is he in it? It's a movie I've seen many times because my kids love it. I probably would not have seen it otherwise.

But he wrote the music for that. Oh, wow. The lyrics are great, but I think he's at his best when he's like writing lyrics to not rap songs uh like he he has a good like musicality to it uh oh yeah that uh like my favorite songs in this play are the non-rap songs uh mine are the truly non-rap songs in that it's You'll Be Back. Yeah, The King. That was like the one. And that's what's funny. That motherfucker was hamming it up the most.

Yeah. And I'm like, and meanwhile, I'm here like, I don't really fuck with musicals. And I'm like, da, da, da, da, da. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da. I'm like, yeah, man, this shit go. But other ones, I'm like, The Room. I mean, they're all like that's like it's truly um it's really something else because to experience it and you know like this guy really

synthesized a lot of historical shit and tried to just fucking turn it into colloquial things we can understand now yeah i think is impressive so that's why it's like you kind of it's hard to really have a real opinion on this because it's either you i don't think it's fair to just say like all the historical inaccuracies negate it as a musical because it doesn't like it's objectively as music and like as as compositions they are really really good and they deserve the awards and and you know the other way around it's not like well you have to forget about all the historical inaccuracies because it's so good as a musical it's just kind of like one of those things i think everyone should be aware they're glamorizing the founding fathers uh which yeah is

is dangerous water to to wade into uh but but the lyrics i mean yeah look he's he's got bars but he also does well when he has someone who can swoop right in and sing. There's a good balance between Lin-Manuel Miranda's lack of really powerhouse vocality and then the way the songs are written where you'll never just get too much of him doing his thing where there'll be these other performers around that really take it to the next level. I do think... Go ahead. I was just going to say that I heard that

the newer versions of this play, the Hamilton character sings better. Oh, of course. Not him. How could he not? Wait, so Hamilton got better at singing? That's also an awkward one because like he deserves to be whatever the fuck he wants in this play he wrote the whole thing the thing

that's beautiful about the play like burst out of his brain the writing is the star uh it is like i feel like i haven't seen the best version of this play because I have only seen it with him in the lead role. It's just a little embarrassing. You get the sense some of the play might have been written because he has a fetish that involves people putting coats on him. Do you notice how often people are putting coats on him? Definitely James Brown, wannabe James Brown vibes. It's like 20 times, but no, it's just, yeah, there's something slightly embarrassing

about it because, you know, he's putting himself in this role of like, you know, and being surrounded by these incredible physical performers and, you vocal performers and he's not i i actually saw the play uh in person and like that was noticeable from my seats way the fuck in the back where was that like yeah he physically like doesn't he doesn't have the same like physicality that other actors do and nor should you expect him to because he's doing everything yeah he's doing everything and he's writing and he's not like the best actor in new york like everybody else in in the play but it is just kind of awkward like it's it's tough because i don't think he's ever bad like where you're like man this song is cringe but when no no no when Daveed Diggs as Thomas Jefferson or Leslie Odom Jr as Aaron like when when Thomas Jefferson came

back I was like bro is this yeah start this musical up yeah I'm like yeah get this other motherfucker off the stage like let me hear about Thomas Jefferson so that's like what's funny is that even when you're in awe like because you you'd see Linuel Miranda, you're like, damn, look at this singular. I mean, he had many collaborators, but you're like, wow, look at this sort of creator on stage doing his thing. And then you're like, damn, look at this performer, though, next to him. Look at this man. In the end, I was like, yeah, fuck Hamilton, bro. Clap that man, Aaron Burr.

Fuck that. In the end, I was like, yeah, fuck Hamilton, bro. Clap that man, Aaron Burr. Fuck that. I'm rooting for you because I was so connected to the performances of every other person. Renee Elise Goldsberry, the Daveed Diggs, all those people. I can remember moments.

I would feel like I would watch that part again. There weren't many that involved Lin-Manuel Miranda's his own performances. That's not a shot at him. I'm sure he knows he would never say that I'm a better performer than any of those people, but everybody's got their strengths. His strength was doing that. To your point, he deserves to be up there,

but I would like to see it with the alternate. Yeah. Angelica's performance, Philippa Soo's performance. Angelica's not her name. Who plays Angelica? Renee. Yeah, Renee, yeah. That performance and Philippa Soo's performances

are fucking great. Yeah, there's also kind of like, they were doing that bootstrapping shit also too that about like, oh oh he's an immigrant came up here got an immigrant got to think smarter try harder blah blah blah did the song did the song come after the play or did the play have that line first and then the song came because he has that song lin-manuel the how did a bastard orphan son of a that that one no like immigrants get the job done um uh he it's a pop song that he wrote when he had all these um oh my gosh i should have googled this i think that came

from the play because i think that so it was like a line in the play and then like he popularized it yeah but but i guess uh even like there were these things, like there were these very American myths, those still built in it were like founding fathers. They were really like hip dudes who you should have seen them dance. They were really cool. That's why this country is so great. I don't know about slavery stuff. I mean, we can talk about that in another musical that I won't watch,

but there's that. And then there's like this bootstrap thing of, you know, that's all you need, kid. Just be a little bit smarter. Don't worry about any of the systemic oppression you may experience along the way. Just get your bootstraps on. I mean, he just put a pencil to his temple, connected it to his brain. That's how it all happens.

Okay, I have a question for you all like did it feel different watching it three and a half years into the trump administration yes yes because absolutely that's what i'm saying is like i watched it and i couldn't i'd have to constantly remind myself that like i can i can enjoy what i'm seeing rather than immediately being turned off but like man this is how fucking America started. Bro, get this shit off my screen. This isn't what it is. This is fucked up and a misrepresentation.

There's total erasure of contributions of people of color to this actual historical event. And they're excusing it by having people of color out there performing it. And I think, but that's where everyone is saying like we're looking at we're in a different mindset now yeah different i think probably just because i like history i probably would have been like okay but the music i also like music so it's good but it definitely like there were times i was i was it was getting me thinking a lot about like yeah what are they saying and I'm like

that's not much more than I probably would have yeah four years ago yeah I kept thinking about like how I don't know there was like a line about oh my gosh I think it was probably around voting rights right this week where Trump was saying that voting is a privilege and not a right and the constitution says that voting is a right for all people and so i was just thinking about that in context with this with this musical just that there's you know we have a president like the play i guess i don't know i don't want to say it glamorizes the constitution federalist papers whatever there's like but just but just in contrast with the president that actually doesn't give a fuck about anything,

anything, that it just kind of felt different. I don't know. I still don't know what I'm feeling about that. Right. But I definitely think it would have been different if I watched it during the Obama administration. I was definitely less forgiving of

a lot of the stuff that they just kind of gloss over. They're like, he sure writes a lot, but they don't really talk about what he was writing, which was setting up a giant banking system that had tons of power.

There's people around him who are abolitionists. I think even Eliza ends up being an abolitionist, or at least they say she does at the end. And he doesn't. He never really does that. I don't know. I was very, like, the fact, he's fully complicit in his son's death, like,

which is something that hadn't. Yeah. Where he's like, yeah, man, just go out there, fire that shit at the sky. I,

you can guarantee he's going to be a good dude in this gunfight. You're going off to get in here, take my guns to the gunfight. Yeah. And then like, that's what is like his redemption i don't know man i was i still like that that fucking kills me like that scene uh yeah that's awful it was absolutely murders me yeah it's well i mean and then when he gets killed does not murder me quite as much

no even with the slow-mo i was like all right yeah uh rise up can we get the king back up there to do one more time because i like that and again we should talk about because that was probably the most talked about moment in the entire thing in terms of conversation around people watching hamilton on disney plus was the spittle that ends up on his mouth. Oh, I did not see this. During the You'll Miss Me. I was watching, I don't know, too close. I don't know what it was. It is obscene. There's one line he

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Right. He's like trying to be like very. I'm sure. I don't know anything. I'm reading now. It says that. I'm going to have to rewind to this. He has opened up Jonathan Gross.

Wait, what's his name? Groff. Is that really gross? Groff. Groff. Mine's on hers. He says. In an interview with Variety

He was asked about the habit in general About like The character's spitting And he says I spit a lot on stage I've always been a spitter I start sweating I just get wet when I perform on stage

It's just what happens Wow So Jack That's you know Brothers in arms right there Brothers in sweat I Yeah I noticed that a lot

like hercules mulligan uh was sweat and then uh james madison was the character the actor who played both those characters was first of all like bundled the fuck up i don't know exactly why but was so sweaty i felt i felt for that dude well i was not paying attention to any body sweat or mouth sweat or anything so i feel like i need to re-watch i'm always like one of those people like attention when someone's like talking and they spit on you i'm always like oh okay so like i have a i'm always clocking mouth spit uh so funny and so you must be really excited about everyone wearing masks now it doesn't really bother me i just like you know i have an eye for a detail but the thing he was saying was he said

for the quote this is a quote about how um like other performances he's done they said but those who've seen broadway's little shop of horrors too like have seen this spitting habit of his quote for the first couple weeks of the run i felt bad because i'd walk down to the end of the stage in the second song of the show skid row Row, and I can't help it. I'm just like spitting on everybody. And they're either enjoying it or they're laughing or they're holding up their programs to block their face. I don't care anymore. But it made me feel self-conscious at first.

I'd never been so close to the audience where I was actually seeing the reaction on people's faces while I spat on them. This fool has a splash zone in a broadway musical and you know i think yeah it's just uh you know so he's he's brave he's doing him because at the end of the day leaning into it i can't say a damn thing about his vocal performance because he's my favorite song even with the spit i'm i'm there for yeah for that and he just like just completely like owns those moments with just like a couple facial gestures he's he's very funny yeah the the other big moment that people are talking about is at the end when eliza skyler like comes out to the it's literally the last moment before the lights go down she is like talking

about you know uh what she did with her life after he died and then like looks out at the audience and like has this like almost horrified gasp it could be read as horrified gasp or it could just be read as like emotionally overwhelmed uh and people were like why why did that happen? Does it not happen in the other versions of the show? She does it every time. I think it does. It's just kind of an interesting choice that the actor makes at the end of the, or I think it's actually written into the play

because all actors who play the role of Eliza do that. Oh, yeah. Well, there's like a stage direction too because there's a spotlight. Like it's there. Again, there's another thing saying she explains it. People are like, is it Eliza going into heaven? Is she seeing Alexander?

Is she seeing God? What is it? And it's kind of all of those things. Sometimes it's literally I look out and I see the audience and that's what it is. But I think that idea of transcendence is present in all of that so that's just the gasp is a transcendent gasp like she's seeing the interpretation i read like mixed with what you just read was also the idea that like she is seeing across time at

the audience because that whole song and that whole moment is about legacy and now she's like singing across time this audience seeing a play about them and she's like overwhelmed by you know the fact that their legacy does live on even though for a long time it was kind of not so much it's fun i think my first time hearing about aaron burr was that got milk commercial which one where the dude is eating the peanut butter sandwich and he's trying to be like I think my first time hearing about Aaron Burr was that Got Milk commercial. Which one? Where the dude is eating the peanut butter sandwich and he's trying to be like, for $10,000 in the famous duel against Alexander,

like who was the person who killed Alexander Hamilton in the famous duel? And the guy's like, his mouth is full of peanut butter. He's like, Aaron Burr. He's like, I'm sorry, I can't hear you. That commercial, the first mainstream hit by Michael Bay.

What? Like Transformers? Yeah. He directed that commercial. The Aaron Burr Got Milk commercial? Yeah. He directed that straight out of, I think, film school and kind of put his name on the map.

Wow. Jesus. Look at all the reverberations from alexander hamilton look at that who would have known it actually like i don't i don't know why we're talking about lin-manuel miranda it's michael bay who owes alexander hamilton everything that's right i mean one thing that uh jam pointed out is that the they have two of the three fucks in the play censored. Yeah. And he was saying that it's because.

Did it stay in one of them? I thought he censored all of them. One fuck actually is. Oh. Or maybe it's the one where he goes, it's my wife that you decided to fuck, you know, and like doesn't actually finish the word. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because I don't remember like a clear crisp fuck Because I don't remember a clear crisp fuck. I don't remember one either. But he was pointing out that you can actually get away with three fucks. It's all about context. You're talking about the ratings, right? Because they did that to avoid it being R. Yeah, PG-13. Yeah, so they did it to avoid being R.

Disney refused to show anything on Disney+. That's beyond a PG-13 yeah so they did it to avoid being r disney refused to show anything on disney plus that's beyond a pg-13 uh disney the general rule is that you can only have one fuck uh in a movie without it becoming r but that's only if you're using it as a verb and in the context of sex uh so like not surprisingly, this play is not them talking about fucking people, each other. It's just like a colloquial use of the phrase, and Disney still was very cautious about it.

It's a one-fuck rule on Disney. Two fuck, wait, one fuck or two fucks? One fuck. One fuck. One fuck, and then if you fuck twice you're r yes yes but that shouldn't that isn't the case all the time yeah depending on the context context fucking right like we could we could get a pg-13 even with our intro where we say fuck the coke brothers and dozens of people because we're not talking about

specifically making love to the Koch brothers. No. At least that wasn't the original intent. One in that instance would be necrophilia, technically. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think a lot of parents are watching this with their kids. So I think, you know,

I mean, like, I'm conflicted because I recognize that on stage, like, they get to say fuck and, but people are paying hundreds of dollars for that experience. But we're in people's homes and people are getting access to this. How did your parents handle when you were kids cursing, showing up on something you were watching? Was it like, oh my God, close your ears. No, no, no. TV would go off and I'd be sent to my room. It was very censored in my household.

Right, right, right. What about you, Jack? My dad was very lax when it came to letting me see R-rated movies to the point that I got kicked out of R-rated movies that my dad bought a ticket for me to go into. Your dad was there with you? He was. He took my little sister to see Fern Gully.

He bought tickets for me and my older sister to go see Lethal Weapon 3. Then the people rolled in and were like, you got to get out of here, man. They fuck you at the drive-thru. Apparently, and we're like, you gotta get out of here, man. They fuck you at the drive-thru. But yeah, so apparently Disney Plus, like we've talked about the weird

Daryl Hannah butt shot from Splash that they like cloned her hair so it just looks like there's like a rug of her hair that's like attached to her butt. It's really bad. Yeah, and then they apparently blurred out a woman's cleavage rug of her hair that's like attached to her butt. It's really bad. Yeah. And then they apparently blurred out a woman's cleavage on an episode of Wizards of Waverly Place. Cause that was too risque.

Well, we can't have our children know about the existence of female breasts. I mean, well, well then what, what's next? What's next? But, uh, Jack, what's next? What's next? No, Jack, what's next?

What's next? Yeah, because children don't by their very nature need to know what breast artists are. This is so weird. It's weird when you see these. I really would love to know about this puritanical editorial board within Disney Plus where it's like are they are they going off of complaints that go in are there a team of people who have to be super buttoned up

and be like oh no no no get this out i'm oh man the the have you seen this film is not yet rated no that documentary about the npa you know you have to watch that that is unbelievable and the you know npa is so often telling on itself when it's like making these rules because it's always You have to watch that. That is unbelievable. MPAA is so often telling on itself when it's making these rules because it's always like a woman showing pleasure during sex is the thing that they object to if a woman is not having a pleasurable time,

aka they're much more lax when it comes to sexual assault scenes. Oh, yeah, of course course which is so fucking dark do you know what this reminds me of when i was i'm just going to tell a personal story uh when i was younger we lived in saudi arabia when i was in junior high so we were there from when i was 12 to 14 and we brought a newspaper to saudi like we came to the u.s someone had asked us for a copy of a newspaper because it's. Like we came to the US, someone had asked us for a copy of a newspaper because it's so hard to get news there. And this was like in the night, like 92.

And like there was an ad for Jessica Rabbit. So when we were going through, not an ad for Jessica Rabbit, but like a Roger Rabbit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the immigration officers for Saudi Arabia, they go through the newspaper one by one and they'll black out Jessica Rabbit's body. And they'll just censor that way.

They'll either cover up cleavage or cover up anything female body. Even though it was probably like the New York Times or something. It wasn't Playboy. So that's kind of what this reminds me of when you're talking about but just kind of like in a cartoon version it's very muslim is basically what i'm trying to say disney plus is very halal well and very much like blaming women for existing and being like yeah because if they didn't exist like we wouldn't have to do like then there wouldn't be darkness so just hide everything because it's there it's like what the fuck is this it's

it's the creeping sharia of of Disney whoa I didn't realize Disney spent 75 million dollars 75 million to acquire just the distribution for Hamilton because for Hamilton just to just this like one

filming of a play that already exists and that you can go out and see at your local theater when it comes through town. They spent $75 million and they are apparently happy they did because they

saw a 75% surge in subscriptions over the July 4th weekend. And they said it's like a whole new demographic that they hadn't reached before. They weren't more specific than that. So who knows who they're referring to. Unlike Quibi, baby.

Did you think it was like 92% or 98% of their trial users ended the second the trial was over. So they went from like 900,000 to like 3,000 unfortunate assholes, myself included, who forgot to cancel it in time. But I'm sure that will go down even more and people are like, fuck, I paid

Quibi for five, motherfucker. Wow, that is... They're fucked. They're fucked over there. That's really not good well taz it has been a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist again where can people find you and follow you they can find me at tazzystar.me um i have a podcast called good muslim bad muslim but we just ended our show after five years but you you can still listen to it. It's in archives out there. So good. And is there

a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? We already talked about the tweet that I was enjoying. I really enjoyed Elon Musk's response to Kanye West, where he was endorsing him at first, and then he backtracked really fast. It made me laugh out loud. So good.

Yeah. Miles, where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me and follow me on Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Grey, and also my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance. You know, we're talking about 90 Day Fiance.

That's just what it is. Some tweets that I like. One of them is from CJ Toledano, iHeart Podcast fiance that's just what it is uh some tweets that i like one of them is from uh cj toledano i heart podcast label mate uh he says i remember working at a blockbuster right before they closed down and asking if we were getting severance and my boss was like no but you can have like 15 dvds of whatever movies we have left and i was like cool that works and it was all tit And it was all Titanic. It was all copies of Titanic.

Doing the money phone with Titanic DVD copies. And then another label mate, Molly Lambert, at Molly Lambert, just said, should I start in Only Plants? Thinking about that. Only Plants, man. Tweets I've been enjoying. Dropped mic, tweeted, interviewer, can I get your references? thinking about that only plants man tweets i've been enjoying uh dropped mike tweeted

interviewer can i get your references me sighing probably not nobody else does james herbert outside the nba as opposed to inside the nba uh tweeted nba gossip is now called bubble tea oh so. I like that. I did see that one. The NBA bubble. You like bubble tea, Jack? You fuck with the boba? Oh, I fuck with boba.

Oh, really? Yeah. What's your favorite flavor? Yeah, there was a good boba truck. We got to press them as Asians. What's your favorite, bro? I know. There's a good boba truck outside of the crack house back in the day.

Yeah, I think it was i forget i forget what my favorite was oh you sound like a fake ass bubble tea sipper right you don't know if oh come on the cheese foam on top and then the little like jelly stuff too yeah yeah yeah the foam with the jelly is definitely the what i remember of bubble tea. Would that have been an acceptable answer? No. I like the one that has the foam and the bubbles. No, the base flavor. You know what I mean?

Like, what's the drink that has the boba in it? What are you sipping on? Is Vietnamese coffee one? Yeah. I mean, they have that. I mean, or like the Thai. I always go taro. Okay.

I'm taro gang in the building. I'm almond. Almond milk. Oh. I think I liked almond milk gang in the building. I'm almond milk. I think I like almond milk, actually. I should try that. Yeah, because, yes, I do like that almond syrup. And then lychee. Lychee's good, too.

A pandemic where we don't get access to boba like that anymore. Just make our own. We're truly becoming like our immigrant mothers where it's like, yeah, I can make that at home. Like, what do you want? I'm going to do it. We can figure out how to make that at home. I'm like, I don't know if I can make this tapioca at home, but I'll try.

I also like to tweet by Heaven at Heaven Sent Mel tweeted, due to COVID-19, I will not shake hands or hug anymore. You may either kneel or bow to me ooh good I think I kind of like that policy and I'm going to be

instituting it immediately uh yeah you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist we're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram we have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

We link off the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what are we going to ride out on today, man? This is actually going to be from Horace Silver. Horace Silver is another artist who just this man has given us so many samples uh and just he's a hard bop style jazz musician um has played with all of the greats uh but this track again i'm all about just like textures the last week was doing a lot of vibes. This is another one.

This is Horace Silver, and this track is called Soul Searchin'. So just get into this. It's a great, great thing. Honestly, any of Horace Silver's work is fantastic to listen to. I think calming music is a good way to start the week. Not getting turned up off the revolutionary anthems of Hamilton. Because I know it must be nice. It must be nice. That's the other thingems of Hamilton. Because I know it must be nice. It must be nice. That's the other thing about musicals.

When you just see these dudes do some hard bars and shit, you're like, yeah, man, fuck, man, this motherfucker got bars. And he's like, it must be nice. It must be nice. And I'm like, wow, that's a hard change of gears. But I like it. Yeah. Bars and musical bars.enades yeah all right well the

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