The Daily Zeitgeist - Hard Knock Zeit 9/6: Larry Sinclair, Anti-Defamation League, Bill Maher, OAN, Captive Audience Meetings

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

In this edition of Hard Knock Zeit, Jack and Miles discuss Obama and his gay accuser, Larry Sinclair, Elon Musk suing the Anti-Defamation League for defamation, Bill Maher's thoughts on the WGA strike..., OAN vs Dominion, and New York banning "captive audience meetings"!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
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Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of it's a hard knock zeit for us that is courtesy of johnny davis uh followed by a bunch of mumbling. Better be than beep, beep, beep. Steady streaming bring down us. Steady streaming the bass don't us. Keeps on cops. You're giving up even on syllables
Starting point is 00:01:56 that are made up rather than being wrong and strong. Steady streaming the bass don't us. I was just never very confident. I don't know why i wasn't very confident in the lyrics that i never bothered to learn and was completely wrong about yeah um well excuse me while i kiss this guy yes did you have that book from uh like misheard lyrics and the cover was a cartoon drawing of jimmy hendrix kissing somebody and it
Starting point is 00:02:26 said excuse me while i kiss this guy no but it's i feel like i remember that book coming out i just didn't have it it was never as good as that cover would lead you to believe that was the best one the rest were pretty sweaty it was like they had three that they had actually misheard and then the other ones they were like under fresh her what no yeah space oh ground control to major tom was clown control to mao zedong yeah nobody thought that. Nobody thought that. Y'all just, you just like found shit that rhymed with some famous song lyrics. But there were like a couple that were actually misheard lyrics.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Like Back Loser. I get how people misheard Loser because I was in Spanish. Soar, hand in the door. Soy on my candy corn. Boys call me Albert Gort. all that no you're not it stretch that's where you made it up that's where you started making it up um you need kool-aid baby i'm not fooling okay that's a whole lot of love it's about a kool-aid commercial
Starting point is 00:03:40 and um it is what it anyways i'm jack that's miles and this is a podcast where we just like talk about misheard song lyrics yeah man we actually it's a meta analysis of other media where they talk about misheard song lyrics yeah determine whether it's bullshit or not um no this is this is a show where we look at the what's trending and what is trending right now is larry sinclair um who is a convicted con artist who for years has claimed that he smoked cocaine and had sex with barack obama in 1999 um everybody wants to say he smoked crack because they're racist he just smoked cocaine for the record it was cocaine we were doing it right I guess
Starting point is 00:04:31 yeah but you know this person he's been around since 2008 he came out said yeah this guy this limo driver I asked a limo driver to put me into in touch with someone who partied uh limo driver and introduced me to barack obama who was like hey i'm barack obama uh
Starting point is 00:04:54 illinois state senator nice to meet you illinois senator barack obama um let's buy some cocaine here's 250 dollars buy me some. I'll smoke it with you and then we'll have sex. We'll make love. And so Tucker Carlson, this is another big
Starting point is 00:05:15 bomb drop from Tucker Carlson's interview on the Adam Carolla podcast. It's another thing that he said, which is obviously true. He said, a is obviously true. Um, he said, uh,
Starting point is 00:05:28 a guy came forward, Larry Sinclair and said, I'll sign an affidavit. And he did. I'll do a lie detector. And he did. And that's what led him to say, obviously true.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah. Except he, uh, famously failed the lie detector test. Well, he, he told us just like your opinion, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Anyways, I don't know. It's interesting. It seems like it's only a story because Tucker Carlson is deciding to talk about it. Of course, because they're grasping at shit while the walls are imploding on Trump. It sounds like more and more people are potentially going to flip.
Starting point is 00:06:04 But this guy, apparently apparently Sinclair. He said in 2004 he signed an affidavit. Claiming to be terminally ill. As he sought to have a warrant dismissed. Although two decades later. He seems to be alive. So he likes to sign little paper lies. And do that.
Starting point is 00:06:20 But hey Tucker. A legit con artist. Loves getting photographed with women in MAGA hats, and he's just, he's here for the party. He's still going around asking
Starting point is 00:06:34 limo drivers to put him in touch with people who like to party, and the latest is Tucker Carlson. He likes to party, man. He's out here just trying to get things trending on x have you noticed like people i feel like the media should just agree that we're not calling it x right dude you're talking about the labor like you're talking about articles where they reference
Starting point is 00:07:00 shit on twitter and they're like x formerly formerly known as Twitter. On X, the website formerly known as Twitter. Shut up, it's Twitter. I'm just saying, fuck off. Why are we doing that? I see it every time. I don't know. Why are we respecting this man and his dumb ideas? It's Twitter. I'm not going to call it anything else because Twitter,
Starting point is 00:07:20 it encompasses everything that I know it to be. X is drugs. Right. Exactly. Or Darkman X. X is going to give it to you. Well, speaking of that asshole, Elon, not DMX,
Starting point is 00:07:36 another asshole, the one we were talking about before him, Elon Musk, says he wants to sue the Anti-Defamation League for defamation. There you go. He's basically said that they are the reason for Twitter's failing advertising revenue, which is down 60%, which it's complete bullshit. And it doesn't seem like a thing that he could prove but you know he it makes sense
Starting point is 00:08:08 that he wants to believe that the anti-defamation league is responsible for his revenue losses as opposed to him proudly shitting his own pants for the world to see on a daily basis which seems to be more
Starting point is 00:08:23 the more likely culprit it's just a weird boomerang of like it's also like all the the giving nazis their accounts and shit back and the anti-semitism that proliferates on there but then saying but then using anti-semitism to explain that anti-semitism has been fucking up your bottom line as a company it's wild i'm like i'm not usually here to defend the adl but this is very interesting basically a pro israel lobby yeah i mean like yes they they usually they're going to come out first when someone deigns to say something like israel is an apartheid state um but in this case you know yeah it is true you look at the fucking rampant like hate
Starting point is 00:09:07 speech that's on Twitter that may affect things although I mean all Elon Musk did was like triple down on like the worst hand so I don't know yeah he's just complete he's tripling down on
Starting point is 00:09:22 policies that make it a worse place to hang out, make it a less cool place to be because it's full of just like horrifying people who, um, have opinions that are very unattractive to the vast majority of human beings on the planet earth. And you are a advertiser driven model. So it's not like people look to interest groups to tell them what is the place
Starting point is 00:09:55 to advertise rights that they look to what the general population thinks about a thing. And people think you, you are bad at this and you should stop owning twitter all my ad revenue is gone what could it have been it was it's this group of people or maybe it's that i fired the people who were finding ads to put on the platform because you completely vaporized whole departments over there there's a lot there's a lot of other things at work here but again i don't suspect or i don't expect elon musk to actually come out with the objective
Starting point is 00:10:30 analysis he's going to do the thing that you know um excuses his shitty behavior yeah but i mean anti-semitism shot up by a whopping 105 after he took over the platform and then now his response to the failure caused by that is to be openly anti-Semitic with the ADL thing. So he's basically, yeah. And I mean, it is, it is kind of funny because like Henry Ford, like that's, that's the kind of historical corollary that people have typically used for him. That he's like this massive industrialist who controls like all these different things and, you know, has outsized power. And Henry Ford, also a famous anti-Semite who blamed Jews for any failures that he had in business. So, I mean, it's kind of, this is the anti-Semite playbook, which is just blame Jews for your own failure.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I'm surprised, like, but I also, so I know somebody who just got a Tesla and he said the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was pre-downloaded onto the infotainment system. Yeah, as an audio book. Cool. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil
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Starting point is 00:14:51 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. Mm-hmm. And Bill Maher's name is trending,
Starting point is 00:15:03 and that's never a good thing, usually. Just shut up. It usually has to do with when he makes some garbage statement on his show. But his HBO series is shut down because of the strike. So instead, he's doing something called Club Random. Sorry, Random. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Oh my god, Random. Sorry, Random, Bill. sorry random wow oh my god random which is a youtube show that seemingly is shot uh at what looks to be a pure one going through a midlife crisis it's it's not great man inexplicable it looks like shit stolen from like the old peewee herman set and was like reupholstered in the worst way i don't know what the fuck this is if pb armin was like you know early 90s like hair metal lead singer yeah like there's some of that mixed in with it right i feel like yeah but uh yeah he had jim gaffigan on had jim gaffigan on uh and uh he's just like wearing black jeans black t T-shirt. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Chilling, you know, being being a bad boy. And he talked about how he loves his writers, which is never good for what's going to come next. Because then he says, but the WGA's demands are kooky. Oh, I kind of believe that you're owed a living as a writer and you're not. kooky oh they kind of believe that you're owed a living as a writer and you're not um is that so guy who relies on them to say the things because without your writers bill you would just say the most unhinged islamophobic bullshit and i mean like the stuff he says is already bad and that's with writers yeah because yeah he uh, is the most writer constructed comedian that I am aware of. He,
Starting point is 00:16:51 because he's, yeah. Every time he gets, gets clear of his writers, it's, it's a real mess. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Comedian is a technical term, I guess. Yeah. For sure. He has comedy, uh, specials. So we will call him a comedian right but um i feel like when i picture him it's him saying to the audience what oh come
Starting point is 00:17:15 on what oh oh you don't like that oh you're too sensitive i'm sorry and like like, that's, that's his mode of comedy is saying bad shit that nobody likes and isn't funny. And then go, Oh, I'm sorry. Do I offend you? I'm sorry that I implied genocide against a group of people. I'm sorry that upset you.
Starting point is 00:17:38 You can go back to your frozen dinners now. Okay. Yeah. Um, but really the, the worst, uh, like just the the because he gives he like makes good ideas look so bad oh totally totally but uh back during the 2007 strike he again there's
Starting point is 00:17:56 a pattern here proclaimed i love my writers and then went on a rant about witch hunts and threats from the union. And, uh, then he likened the strike to the invasion of Iraq. Oh no, sir. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Good. Great take.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Great take. So his writers have spoken up and been like, well, actually like, so first of all, uh, thank you for everything because writing for you like we are paid extremely well because you are notoriously the most difficult person to work with like just
Starting point is 00:18:35 a nightmare right there's also a conan writer who talked about how uh bill maher was a guest and insisted he not be spoken to by hair and makeup and also requested that there be no skin to skin contact with the people doing his hair and makeup oh good that's fine nobody wants to touch your gray turkey meat skin yeah uh but okay bill yeah cool cool oh what what did i offend you oh i'm sorry by your your skin i don't like to be touched on the face by people who make less than you know four hundred thousand dollars no eye contact is that so hard to understand new rule you can't make eye contact with me okay such a fucking weirdo that's awesome that that this this talk show set for his youtube it's such a it's such a l on its face like looking at it it it looks like some guy's like weird like you say midlife crisis shack where like art that isn't hung.
Starting point is 00:19:45 It's just like sitting on the floor, a table that's between the two chairs that entirely too crammed with what looks like, like a whiskey decanter or something. What the fuck is going on? Yeah. No, it's a,
Starting point is 00:19:58 he's a, uh, people also point out, like, just look at his Twitter, which I, I don't know when you do most of his shit is just like being offensive while not being like funny in any way um yeah and that's that's
Starting point is 00:20:15 who he is without writers um oh oh bill sorry oh bill oh bill All right. OAN has settled a lawsuit with a Dominion employee. They're not off the hook with Dominion just yet. It's just fun to see, like, just see this company face consequences repeatedly. So they settled a defamation lawsuit brought by a Dominion employee, Eric Coomer, for an undisclosed amount. And Newsmax previously settled with Coomer back in 2021. They've already done this. What'd you say? I said they've already done this with him. It's like another one. Yeah. I love that the first time, like, we're sorry. This time.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Newsmax last time. Oh, sorry. Newsmax, right. Yes. They are separate. They are different. Yes. But it began with allegations made on a podcast where a right-wing
Starting point is 00:21:06 activist uh told the host that coomer was part of an antifa conference call in which he told them he would rig the election i love the idea of an antifa conference call that's a sick name for a podcast antifa conference conference call yeah that's a great idea fuck these people um i love that and he said you just rigged the election that's what he said that's what he said it was on an antifa conference call what do you want me to do hey this is uh eric uh is this antifa yeah hey um i just wanted to check in would it be helpful if i rigged the election for you guys go on i love that the quote was quote don't worry about the election trump is not going to win i made fucking sure of that uh-huh antifa okay did you guys like that antifa
Starting point is 00:21:52 okay thank you thank you thank you hey uh antifa yeah antifa here uh hey it's Coomer. Uh, uh, Trump's not going to win. Don't worry about it. Me, a, a voting machine employee made sure that it's, he's not going to win. Yeah. I mean, they're, they're just bad writers.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Like it's bad fiction writing is, you know, is, and I don't know if this goes in the podcast, but is there a show where you, you publish, like you take out ads and papers and say that this is the number for antifa to get people to call who are like these like right
Starting point is 00:22:32 wing losers and you pick up and you're like yeah antifa you got it like wait yeah what's going on whatever you want man what do you what do you want to do man you want to rig an election we got it all we're doing it all what do you need you want to get somebody fired for because they're not being woke enough that's what we do here okay we're anti-fascist so we yeah that's what we do we rig elections you want us to beat some people up that's yeah that's what we're here for just random people just randos catching strays all right should we go out on a little a little victory for labor yeah New York. The state has banned the union-busting tool of captive audience meetings. Yay. That's the
Starting point is 00:23:10 thing where employers get the workers together and force them to sit through a show-and-tell of union-busting bullshit where basically these union-busting hitmen or if they call them consultants, labor consultants or whatever the euphemistic term is uh and just
Starting point is 00:23:25 try and scare the fuck out of them like and that's why you don't want to unionize okay that's right jeff bagos loves you so thank you any other questions good good usually there's videos where people like lose an arm and then turn to the camera and say, and that's why you don't want to unionize. Exactly. If only somebody had told me. But yeah, good to see these are the kinds of things that are the tools that have been used since time immemorial by capitalists.
Starting point is 00:23:59 So yeah, I guess that's one less tactic they can use to basically just, again, try to scare the fuck out of workers who are just trying to advocate for their own rights. So, yeah. Good. Good. Good.
Starting point is 00:24:09 All right. Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday afternoon. Don't worry. We will get to the guy who shit an airplane on tomorrow's full episode. We felt like we needed a full episode to deal with it. Trust me. Yeah. We'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Don't worry, folks. I know you're all clambering, but it's coming. Yeah, get out your clambo. Don't be clambering. Clambering. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadston. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:25:00 There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:25:19 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

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