The Daily Zeitgeist - Havana Syndrome Is Propaganda? Eclipse Jailbreak? 04.03.24

Episode Date: April 3, 2024

In episode 1652, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of Bad Hasbara, Matt Lieb, to discuss… Florida’s New Anti-Abortion Law Is A Winning Formula…For Biden? New York Inmates Are Suing The State To See The Eclipse, 60 Minutes Just Can’t Quit Havana Syndrome and more! Florida Supreme Court approves ballot measure to legalize recreational marijuana ‘No help here’: Florida abortion ruling leaves women with few options New York Inmates Are Suing The State To See The Eclipse When the solar eclipse arrives, N.Y. prisons will be locked down 60 Minutes Just Can’t Quit Havana Syndrome U.S. Intelligence: foreign rivals didn't cause Havana Syndrome What is Havana syndrome? Symptoms explained after bombshell 60 Minutes episode What Is Havana Syndrome? A New Report Links the Illness to Russia Havana syndrome attacks linked to Russian spy unit, new 60 minutes report reveals IT’S THE RUSSIANS! THE LATEST 60 MINUTES EPISODE ON HAVANA SYNDROME ENGAGES IN TABLOID JOURNALISM 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients US defense official had ‘Havana syndrome’ symptoms during a 2023 NATO summit, the Pentagon confirms Pentagon will test sonic weapon that manipulates plasma to create ear-piercing noise Pentagon prepping non-lethal "light and sound" weapon New US Acoustic Weapon On Way To Iraq A ‘Sonic Attack’ on Diplomats in Cuba? These Scientists Doubt It Russian intelligence hit squad behind Havana Syndrome brain injuries of US personnel: report Microwave weapons that could cause Havana Syndrome exist, experts say A message for timothee | will sennett bob oppenheimer LISTEN: NEW MAGIC WAND by Tyler, The CreatorSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 332 episode 3 of their daily production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it's wednesday april 3rd 2024 happy four three two four to you brother yeah well you know what it's also national film score day so power up the john williams and whatever whoever you want to get down on that's all we listen to in our household, man. It's just all John Williams. So much John Williams.

Can't get him into some Hans Zimmer. You got Jurassic Park. We got some Hans Zimmer, but it's mainly just, you know, them remembering, enjoying movies. Damn, he did Harry Potter too? Dude, he did it all. Oh my God. This guy is fucking wild. Indiana Jones?ones let's see uh what else is that i was just thinking back to her man uh oh have you met her superman yes i have the soup um national finder rainbow day uh it's also national chocolate mose Day, National Tweed Day, and National Walking Day.

Because, hey, I'm walking here. Okay, Christopher? I feel like National Chocolate Moose Day has to be big chocolate moose realizing they overdid it. At Easter, they made too much chocolate moose to fill the eggs. Not enough eggs were sold. And they have all this unloaded, all this moousse to unload, Andy Dufresne style. Except they can't just put it through their pant leg in the prison yard. They got to just do a national chocolate mousse day.

Anyways, what the fuck am I talking about? Well, I'm just going to let you keep doing it. My name is Jack O'Brienrien aka feeding crows miss a day the umbrella dies that is courtesy of zach van nuss on the discord the great zach van nuss a little yarling got got my yar along and that's always a good feeling to start your Wednesday off. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray. Yay.

If you're having gun problems, I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems, but a gun ain't one. Hit me. Okay. That's from Lockeroni. That's 99 problems, obviously, but keep the show going with no guns. The Discord. You got gun problems.

That's what it is. Yeah. All right. So we don door. The discord. We got gun problems. That's what it is. All right. So we don't have guns. Don't have gun problems. Hey, but here's the thing. I do have bazookas, and I do have military-grade explosives. And you do have bazooka problems. I have bazooka problems.

It's terrible fucking bazooka problems constantly. Bazooka Joe problems. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I should clarify. I'm talking about bazooka Joe. The bubble gum. problems. I should clarify. I'm talking about Bazooka Joe, the bubble gum. His bazooka rarely

earns his name, but when he does, when he just starts blowing those people to smithereens in the bazooka Joe comics. Was Bazooka Joe like a post-World War II propaganda character? Or were we just kind of like, hey, Bazooka Joe.

Like, whatever. We're not getting into Bazooka. Bazooka. I don't know. I don't know why he was called that. I think I assumed Jughead was in that, but I don't think that's correct. I think that was conflating Bazooka Joe and Archie,

unless they were part of the same shared universe. Yeah. Just a motley crew. Yeah. They took place in towns near one another, I feel like. Unless they were part of the same shared universe. Yeah. Just a motley crew. Yeah. They took place in towns near one another, I feel like. Yeah, they all had that weird can't trust their single dot for an eye type look. Yeah.

You know what I mean? That style of drawing. And Bazooka Joe had an eye patch, I guess, early on. I feel like there was a 90s version of Bazooka Joe. Anyway, doesn't matter. If y'all know, what's the deal with Bazooka Joe? Write it. Tell him you got that nickname. Blew one of his eyes out with a damn bazooka.

Because he had bazooka problems. All right, Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests. A very funny comedian. The host of the podcast, the frat cast, Pod Yourself a Gun, Pod Yourself the Wire. One of the best followers on social media. One of the funniest people doing it anywhere. It's Matt Lee!

Matt Lee! Beep, boop, boop. Beep, boop, boop. Wow. Oh, yeah. Wow. Man, the setup for that took a while, guys. Oh, man.

Holy shit. Chugga-chugga. Oh, God. Wow. up for that took a while oh god like wow just trying to set that up for that one bit and and the whole joke was me going mama matt lieb instead of chica chica oh wow oh god hey what's up leaving matts vegas uh matts of the mo Liebkens, as I came up with. Yeah, I love Matt's of the Moe Liebkens. Matt's of the Moe Liebkens. It's not last of the Matt Liebkens. It's not.

Too simple. No, it's got to be out of order. Too recognizable. And it has to sound like a different name. Right. Moe Liebkens sounds like the name of 1950s union guy or something yeah a malibkan is part of like local 238 yeah and uh it's like we take the only lettuce off the trucks i'm a malibkan don't ask me to fucking carry that cabbage bro that's union break i'm not taking any cabbage i'm not taking any fucking cilantro no just lettuce oh whoa whoa

yeah hey so so you know i can't really talk shit on you know you coming out with that aka because i spent like three is how you're how how we should record the podcast why do it any other way yeah that's what i'm saying yeah anyway thanos thanks so much for joining us no problem yeah i've seen those stones no i haven't and stop asking about it dude i was just in your closet looking for some bubble gum and I didn't steal your damn stones like you keep saying. Well, be careful because I got Bazooka Joe in there.

Oh, you do? Yeah. Well, now I'm back in. That's what I asked you. That's why I was in there for so long. You know why they call him Bazooka Joe? Tell me, Thanos. Because he was the first guy to show up World War II and say, I'm here to chew bubblegum and kill Nazis, and I'm all out of bubblegum.

Oh, man. It's weird. The voice effect went off when you said Nazis for some reason. It has a self-censorship mode just in case this ever gets released on tiktok all right i'm done all right matley we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about florida's new anti-abortion law is a winner for nobody except maybe the biden administration but it's a true terrifying attack on bodily

autonomy the third most populous state one of the top five no third yeah third most popular state in the united states uh we'll talk about that we'll talk about new's back baby havana syndrome is back 60 minutes was like nah nah nah nah nah nah we have a scoop on this one right and then it's just like 99 boomer like talking about the jfk assassination being like isn't it interesting the cia was and if you look at these documents you'll see that this person was in the same state at that time and therefore don't you think it's a little uh provocative that it's like what the fuck are you talking about none of this uh anyways we'll uh talk about the latest findings on the havana syndrome findings with a question mark but before we get to any of that matt lee we do like to ask our

guests what is something from your search history or what's something that you've recently screen capped oh that's revealing about who you are that's a new one that's new i like that also it up for the people after seven years where we would be remiss not to mention our other podcast, Bad Hasbara. That's right. I have a new podcast about Israeli propaganda. Yes. It's called Bad Hasbara, the world's most moral podcast. Yes. So, you know, if you're interested in what's currently going on in the Middle East vis-a-vis Israel and Gaza and whatnot,

yeah, I talk about it from an American Jewish anti-Zionist perspective. And it's a lot of fun. I think you guys will enjoy it. It's also, you know, crazy. But, yeah, I mean, the screen cap thing is interesting because, you know, when you ask, like, what's the last thing it's something your google search history that reveals something about you and it's just it just is um israel that's what's said for the last five months up to yeah yeah oh just you know just having a normal one guys yeah just a normal wednesday just a

normal wednesday everyone's just chilling. Nothing weird or anything going on. No errant strikes on aid workers that were working for Jose Andres. Yeah, I knew it. So what? Yeah, that was wild. They're like, oh, that was a really bad mistake is like what the IDF said. And you're like, the convoy three times. Well, you never made a mistake.

So what, man? Yeah, it's like, listen, we've all made mistakes before. Yeah, but the funny thing is this is the one where they're going to actually admit that they did it, which I'm like, hey, progress is progress.

Right. Yeah. This is the first time they're like, no, no, see, that was Hamas. Right. Was it? All right, no, no. It was that we thought Hamas was in the car with them. Right.

Was Hamas was in the food, the sandwiches they were handing out. No. Yeah. It's because they were like, wait, wait. So, you know, you're, you're telling me non-Palestinian people got hurt. Jesus. What a tragedy. Right. Yeah. It's, it's so sick and uh yeah you know but uh in terms of like a screen cap there was someone who was ever since you know i started kind of talking about the whole israel thing on uh the internet i've been getting a lot of just like weird blue check mark trolls you know people are like paying for twitter so that they can have their troll comment be like the first thing that i've seen yeah and so there's this one guy who i'm not gonna say is you know his his ad because why don't feed him and he was

just he was just talking crap about me and you know saying a bunch of awful things and of course the weird thing about paying for Twitter is you still don't get the likes or engagement that you want. So it's, it's people who are literally like, not, they're not good enough at Twitter to actually get anyone to, you know, engage with them, but they're still like, well, I'd still like to give it a shot. I'd still like to try. And try and uh so he wrote this like terrible thing and then i said something like uh don't worry man at some point someone will talk to you right and and he said you know what i'd sincerely respect you retweeting this but i don't

think you have the balls this is the funniest way to ask for help. Human manipulation. Yeah. You don't have the balls to help me. Whoa. Yeah. Screamed at your therapist. I'm doomed.

Hey, Dr. Daniel, you don't have the balls to help me. Help me. Yeah, I want to save my marriage. You don't have the balls to help me. Help me. Yeah, I want to save my marriage. You don't have the balls to help me. Okay. Your wife is just pointing, gesturing. Do you see? Yeah.

So, you know, it's nice when a request for engagement comes with like a dare, you know? Yeah. But just couched in such toxicity too you don't have the fucking ball really you don't have the balls to like help this kind of reach a wider audience you know right like i don't know because i have lots of i have lots of thoughts about things man yeah maybe like an interesting way to give like you see like a museum or like local arts foundation do a fundraiser like you don't have the balls to keep music in our public schools it's like what it might work shit

donate today if you have the balls what is something that you think is underrated man something that i think is underrated i'll tell you i think one thing that's underrated is wait for a moment for me to get my dock open. Waiting. Waiting. Waiting. Stretching. Stretching. Waiting for it.

Stretch. Stretch. Is this for real now? This is for real. This is for real. Okay. Sorry. Oh, you got one of those little gloppy bubble things?

Little gloppy things, but there's like little balls on the inside. Yeah. And that thing doesn't have the balls to help us. This thing doesn't have the balls to help us. Yo, I had one of those too. Sorry, complete sidetrack. Isn't the outside just grotesquely sticky? Yeah, way too sticky.

What the fuck? I could stick it to a wall. It leaves a residue on your hands. Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it. Anyway, we're talking about cheap Easter toys because I had a weird Easter bunny like that in our basket Sunday. Anyway, what were you saying, Matt? Something that I think is underrated. Oh, yes.

Yes, underrated. Can we do overrated instead? Yeah, yeah. Let me start with overrated. Jesus Christ. Miles, I thought you said this guy was a pro. I'm sorry, guys. Let me start with overrated. Jesus Christ. Miles, I thought you said this guy was a pro. I'm sorry, guys. I said this guy was pro Hamas. I've had an incredible morning.

How dare you? Matt, what is something you think is overrated? Oh, something that's overrated. Thank you for asking. You know what's overrated? Mm-hmm. Is vacations when you have a child. Uh-huh. Wow.

Super overrated. I keep hearing this. Oh, aren't you so relaxed from your vacation? Oh, yeah. A new thing I'm discovering, there's no such thing as vacation. It's over. Things are done. It's like vacation is just a new room in a new town where baby needs me 24-7.

And it's, you know, like it kind of like puts the whole idea of vacation in a question like what why why ever do it so like now like i looked at federal holidays in which daycare is off with like dread i'm like counting down the days you're like fucking good friday fuck i thought this was a religious place. It's a bullshit. Yeah. It's like Ash Wednesday. You're not taking Ash Wednesday off. Look after my child. Yeah.

It's discrimination. President's Day. Who gives a fuck? Down with America. Like I'll say this to, you know, Annie at daycare. Right. Down with America. You don't have the balls to stay open on President's Day.

You don't have the balls to look after on christmas all right matt do you uh what's something you think is underrated something i think is underrated israel israel i'm sorry killing it i like to like come back to israel at all points it's on the brain something i know something i think is underrated is peace i think you know the great thing about peace is that everybody likes it and everybody wins when there's peace and i think severely right now uh the idea of peace is being underrated so that's that's that's my underrated for this week you know yeah i get that you know they say can't get peace till we get a piece too that's right that. That's two Tupac quotes in two days in a row. I just had to hit the- What was your first Tupac quote yesterday?

We're taking from them because for years they've been taking from me. Oh, that's a good one. And I said that in the context of how you should just be able to steal things on Air Force One. Everything on there is the shit. It's not like both. Like I said, I'll take the fucking cockpit door if I have to, if I was on there. That's mine. I paid for that. It's got to be at least a couple of I'll take the fucking cockpit door if I have to, if I was on there. That's mine. I paid for that.

It's got to be at least a couple of years of my tax dollars right there in that door. So those cockpit, those flight, like the things they sit in flight chairs. That's not right. Yeah. They're called flight chairs. No, you got it. Flight, flight, flight recliners. Yeah.

Yeah. Those are lazy boys. Yeah. The lazy boys for pilot. Barca lounger.ers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those flight lazy boys. Yeah, the lazy boys for pilots. Pilot Barka lounger, yeah. Yeah, those shit's got to be like real nice, man. I mean, the ones that the pilots are on, for sure they got vibrations on them. Yeah.

And they like give you neck massage. Just randomly? They're like, yeah, I don't know, man, it just vibrates for some reason. Yeah. I mean, I would love to sit in one of those. That'd be sick. Yeah, Peace, though. Underrated for sure.

It's like, I feel like everybody, everyone agrees, right? It's stopping the violence, stopping the needless killing of everybody. I'm on board. You would think, but it's like severely right now, I would say it's one of the most underrated things that's going on right now. Right. Diplomacy. Another thing that is severely underrated things that's going on right now. Right. Diplomacy. Another thing that is, uh, is severely underrated.

Yeah. The thing about diplomacy is like, it's, uh, helped you avoid a needless death forever and ever. Right. Right. I think,

I think, I think Anthony Blinken, he's pretty much proven that he can't do anything. It's time to bring in the real diplomats, Cameron, Jim Jones, Wells, the dip set. I think it's time. Let's the real diplomats cameron jim jones that's right wells the dip set i think it's time let's let's give them a chance let's give them a chance that would do a great

job oh yeah yeah yeah i mean it is any of the amigos or the alive amigos yes yes yes obviously yes wait did dip did dip set stanford theat? I totally did not realize that. Yeah, he was the diplomatic one of the Migos. Now you're mixing up entire rap groups. Wait, me? Is Dipset not in Migos? No, that's offset. Oh, Dipset. I thought they were brothers.

Oh, you thought, wow. Okay, okay, okay. Tell me who Dipset is then. Whiteness verified. Oh, you thought, wow. Okay, okay, okay. Tell me who Dipset is then. Whiteness verified. How dare you. Dipset were the diplomats from Harlem. That's Cameron. Oh, boy.

Jim Jones, Joel Santam. Dipset, Dipset, Dipset. Oh, okay. Ballin. We fly high. I did not know their full christian name was the diplomats i only knew them as dip set they formed in 1997 yeah but so then who are the rest of the migos then that's uh quavo take off off and offset yeah you know it's like because listen

wu-tang got the rizzo and the j. Am I wrong? Should not Migos have Dipset and Offset? Just for the sets? Sure. I just like a set of sets. Hold on. Why wouldn't it be a set of sets? He's right, Miles. The math works out on this.

You know what? That's the next case the International Court of Justice will be hearing. Why not? I see Jay talk to Dipset and tell him, what is he doing not being in Migos? You make a mat leave look like a fool. They're like, Dipset and tell him what is he doing not being in Migos. You make a Matt Leib look like a fool. They're like, Dipset isn't a guy. They're saying it's the set.

It's the gang, bro. It's the crew. Listen, I only listen to UK crime, okay? Oh, okay. That's the only thing I like. Who do you like? Stormzy. Skepta?

Okay. Stormzy. Okay. Stormzy is good. I like that you briefly lapsed into Italian cartoon when you said, Make a mat leave look like a fool. You make a mat leave look like a fool. You make a man look stupid. You know, I love Skepta, obviously. Why not the deep set in Amigos?

Oh, dear. He's saying this at the International Court of Justice. I'm trying to speak their language. I might be a simple Italian plumber, but how come a deep set? You're very clearly, he says, Matt Lieb, American comedian On the placard in front of you, sir What do you have to say? And don't please not wear that barrister's wig I butter my wig up for nothing

I put two on each side Like a Princess Leia No, okay Oh shit Anyway Let's take a quick break And we'll come back and talk about the news i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil

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Yeah. A.K.A. just an overall abortion ban. Yeah. De facto, basically. It's going to go into effect in about 30 days. And then until then, their, I guess, comparatively more humane 15-week ban will be the law of the land. And like you said, like, mind you, people don't, most people do not know that they're pregnant within six weeks. So this is.

Yeah, like pretty much nobody. It's fucking ridiculous. Unless you are constantly testing yourself. Oh, yeah. 100%. And you're like at a doctor every day, like getting like a doctor, you know, doctor visit test. you're like at a doctor every day, like getting like a doctor, you know, doctor visit test. But, you know, many abortion advocates have also pointed out that because it's the third most most populous state, like engaging in this kind of bullshit puts so many people at risk,

not even in Florida, but the Southeast, because there are not states that are able to absorb this many patients that would be seeking abortion care. Are you going to flee to Alabama? Yeah, exactly. Or you end up in a state where they're like, what? You came here for what? No, no. So, yes, it's looking pretty grim. And like a lot of people are like, well, this I guess this helps because for at least until November, they will have to live in a total anti-choice hellscape that may motivate people to vote. But in that same session, the justices also gave the go-ahead for a ballot measure that would protect abortion rights in the state. So they're like, all right, meatball, Rob, you get this one.

But also because we're not total animals, it will be about seven months, six months of absolute horror until you can vote this thing in and then obviously that has to get ratified etc etc so that's a bit of the state uh the the state of things in florida and you know now it's just sort of like saying like wow they they've continued to do this same playbook where they don't realize how popular abortion rights are in abortion access is yeah and every like we've seen this constantly solidly red states when this is on the ballot people turn out in droves and rightly so to protect people's access to abortion and then republicans after like on wednesdays are like what what happened

yeah it is it is weird because it doesn't seem to be popular at all to ban abortion except for in this kind of weird right-wing donor class that demands it and it's like they're basically just trying to placate this really extreme fringe of voters who seem to have no like there's not enough of them to swing an election yeah so you wonder why they're doing it other than just because they're assholes right well because like these donors right they're typically wealthy and also like ultra nationalist christians they're like it's like the most successful like mall construction business in the southeast so i'll use all my money to do this kind of stuff and it's like to your point

like these donors have they're they don't live in the reality where like over two thirds of the country lives. They're like, no, no, no, don't fuck with abortion access. They're like Francis in Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Like, they're like a rich kid with like the most unreal demands. They're like, I want Pee Wee Herman's bicycle. And it's like, you can't have it, you fucking freak. And no one wants that. Well, if I can't have that, then women can't get abortions.

It's like, what the fuck is happening? No, truly, truly. It's why all of the, like, it feels like every culture war issue that's been, like, put forth by the right has been because at the behest of these, you know, huge ultra right wing donor class people who are just very online so all of the issues are very online things like you know woke you know and trans like that's that's the stuff that they are like this will you know if i'm mad about it then the governor better be mad about it too and it's like i don't think I mean, there are people going out to the polls to try to like end woke, but I don't think that on a, even on like a statewide level,

that's going to flip the election for you. Like people, I think, forget why people like Donald Trump. And it's not because of his culture war, you know, stuff it's because he just is like an asshole and he's funny yeah right they're like ah see like it's like i want that guy to be in the roast battle for me on the

political like that's sort of what it is like because he'll fucking tell hillary to shut up yeah yeah yeah he'll call he'll call my enemies a bitch. And it's just like, yeah, that's, that's more relatable than this. These like niche, like right wing culture war issues that people are like, I guess I'm mad about that. I don't know. This definitely has like the, the Biden camp rubbing their mitts.

Cause they're like, we got a shot now. We might have a shot at Florida. I know. I mean, if Biden is able to pull it out in november it'll be because of how inept the republicans are at reading a room like yeah for as bad as the democrats are they're banking on that i mean they've been banking on yeah and

then there's them it seems like it's the whole strategy right like we keep being like wait they're gonna run biden again but he's like so old. Like that's such a huge risk. Yeah, he's old and nobody likes him. And more protesters go out to protest him than show up to his events. Right. For a number of years now, their strategy has been basically look at them. Right. Yeah. It's kind of working like the i mean they yeah i mean they did we'll see in november if it works and if it doesn't work i'm very excited to be blamed personally yes we will be all of us all

yeah everybody who ever said anything negative about joe biden they'll be like i hope you're happy now yeah i hope you're happy i this is what you wanted, right? Yeah, but it's not incumbent on the candidate to actually appeal to a wide base. I'd be like, fucking choose this one now! And you're like, yo, yo, yo, easy. I got rights, too, that I'm looking out for. I got a future, too, I'm looking out for. But it does look like if they were ever going to be like, oh, this might be a shot, I guess maybe. I mean, traditional wisdom would say Florida is not really on the table for a flip.

But again, the narrative I think Biden and their campaign wants to run on is, look what happened. Like this is Trump's Supreme Court that overturned Roe. And then now Republicans in general, like Rob DeSantis, the meatball pudding man, also wants to continue this trend. But then I think that's what's also interesting, too, is it puts Trump in a weird position because he's kind of tried to have it like both ways. You know, like in the past, he's been like, I that's me. That's because of my Supreme Court. Roe got overturned. And then when they when they talk about a six week ban that DeSantis is talking about, he's like, that's terrible.

That's terrible. And you're like, well, hold on. What is it? Because he's, I guess he's smart enough to know how fucking wildly unpopular the issue is. Maybe,

or he was just saying that because at the time he was running against Ron DeSantis and he's like, whatever he says is bad. Right. So what is he going to do? Is he going to embrace the new ban and be like, exactly. They're doing it right down there. Or is he going to be like,

actually vote for the ballot proposition and get that and and help enshrine those rights and then lose the evangelicals because that's also that's like half the battle with him like with the reason the bible people like the bible people weren't up in arms about him selling bibles is because he's low-key being like yo bro trust me you're gonna have a seat at the table when it comes to national policy right but just let me fucking make my coins real quick look you saw me we saw you saw the fucking wild fake moral panic over trans day of visibility falling on easter uh we got your back we will keep the outrage going but yeah it's not it's not quite quite clear how he'll play it and i think that's where the biden camp feels like well, whatever he says, it's going to be tough. And then we'll be able to campaign off of that.

Yeah. And, uh, you know, what would be easier is, um, running, uh,

like a candidate that people like. Yeah. Traditional wisdom would say something like that, but you know, um, I mean, it's weird how low the bar is because like the the bar right now we're setting the bar at not a president doing anything good but just saying that he will

do a good thing and they're not even giving us that they're not even giving us the veneers not even like the lie of like no yeah we're gonna we're gonna try and you know uh broker a piece uh or you know it's just like they're like well no israel's right to exist and uh they're like we had that un resolution we abstained from voting on right yeah we had the un resolution that we helped uh water down to a degree in which we were okay enough to abstain yeah and it's like you're you're not even trying to pretend well i think that's where again there's like this difference between the high information voter and then the and most people who are probably i mean like if obviously he's not going to attempt to appeal to like voters like who are like calling out all

these inconsistencies no for those who aren't like for the people i was like why doesn't he get credit for the economy it's like well you could do stuff that like hits people in the pocketbook or at least hearing like right oh you're going after like these sort of uh predatory price gouging practices of companies or something like that signals like oh they're like i get that yeah my bread is cheaper or my milk isn't as much money like oh man i buy so much milk now so having a baby i'm like all milk i this is beer money basically you're spending on gallons of milk like those used to be that used to be what beer costs and i was like damn especially that whole milk i don't know why that's more expensive i mean i guess i do because they don't cut it yeah because they don't cut it that's that's I mean I guess I do Because they don't cut it Yeah because they don't cut it

That's at raw You're sniffing base Bro you're sniffing base That's the shipment You know It's not been stepped on I guess heavy cream is really Is real base

Yeah that's Yeah yeah yeah But the other thing too is like If that ballot measure about Enshrining abortion access Into the law Isn't enough The Florida Supreme Court

Also approved another ballot measure That would determine whether or not recreational cannabis can be a thing in the state. So you've got a body autonomy and weed on the ballot. So that may help bring out some voters enough to do something that would change the overall color of Florida. I mean, who knows? Who knows?

Who knows? But that's also like the bill for the recreational cannabis one is like very it's like put forward by like the biggest medical marijuana company in Florida. And the bills and it's like us and like our 24 friends get to run roughshod over the state with you when you legalize cannabis. So that one's a little bit murky, too. Also, the price of the brick is going up. Yeah.

It's just like, I get it. You guys want to control all of it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, free market. I feel like the Democrats, every time they every time we have a national election coming up, they're like, well, and Florida, it might be in play. And it's always like it just like gets further and further away from being. Yeah.

I think the only for me, the one thing that I feel could help is the fact that the Republicans have no monies right now. Yeah. Yeah. The dollar amounts are really they it's slim pickings over there because a lot of the money is going just to Trump. And the RNC is like, sorry, we're this guy's piggy bank. I know it affects down ballot candidates. Right. Can you do something on your own?

Maybe. And I'm sure it'll get probably sorted out because these are gigantic political machines but you know as it stands if that's the situation yeah you might be able to see how they're like oh yeah that might that might be a get yeah we did talk about how on monday's trending episode that trump had like a good financial week where he spontaneously became like five billion dollars richer because Truth Social essentially went public. Went public, yeah. But like the day that we talked about that, like the shares dropped by like some crazy percentage.

I think 23 or 28% or something like that. Because of the statistics. So he lost a billion dollars of that valuation already. Yeah. Which I'm curious, when is he going to dump all his shares, honey? He gets six weeks or six months until he can do that. Oh, six months?

Yeah. But I think he can maybe borrow against it. So he might be able to liquefy a little bit. Oh, you want to borrow against this rapidly tanking stock price? Sure. Sure. What do you want for it? $3 billion?

I love that he can just go to any financial institution and they're like, all right, you can literally take this money and never pay it back. Right. Well, now this one with that $175 million bond he paid recently in New York, that was all from a dude who was like the subprime car loan king. Like, yeah. And he's like. Subprime car loan. Yeah. And he's like subprime car yeah and he's booed up with like

this bank like he's he's like a huge stake in this bank that is the one doing the lending and they like a lot of financial reporters like it this company does stuff where they can it looks like money laundering made easy with this bank and how they like loan and give bonds out to people so made easy with this bank and how they like loan and give bonds out to people so whatever like we said this is just the cool system of the roster we have there america all right so miles you pitched an idea to the bank robbers of america yeah you pitched it as a movie but i think i didn't know that you were pitching to the real world bank robbers. A string of Eclipse-related bank heists where each heist is timed to the Eclipse.

Everyone's looking away. I love this idea. Everyone's looking out. And law enforcement, different places have states of emergency where they're having to put all their resources in one place. Because there's so many tourists. So if you're going and scheduling the bank robberies in the path of totality, love this idea. We have another piece of news related to the eclipse and the criminal carceral system. New York State Department of Corrections and Community Supervision recently announced that they would be canceling visitations on April 8th, aka Eclipse Day 2024,

in facilities that lie in the path of totality. And it's not just visitations. They'll be instituting a system-wide lockdown, meaning that inmates will be locked in their housing units between 2 and 5 p.m., supposedly as a safety precaution. What, because they might look at the sun? I don't get, get like is this just the powers that be retaining their like ancient fear of eclipses you don't know what's gonna

yeah we don't know what kind of power they will attain from the sun yeah right like doesn't that kind of feel like what they're they're a lot they're making everybody be locked away for the three hours of the eclipse. And you're lucky we don't do it every month during the full moon. As a safety precaution. We don't know what they're going to do. What is the threat exactly? I mean, are they listening to the show and they're like, oh, that'd be a perfect way to bust out of a prison?

But I'd imagine it's pretty – because it goes a little bit shadowy for a couple minutes they're like i don't know man i'll hide in the eclipse yeah right well what what can we do a system-wide lockdown i don't know what kind of crypto zoological beast they turn into when the eclipse happens but like they had already purchased a large supply of solar eclipse safety glasses to distribute uh to distribute to the incarcerated population and then they just were like nah fuck that we're gonna we're gonna hang on to these this is really odd like why is weird clearly like that shows real intent to allow people to observe the eclipse would you like i mean i guess you got to look after their little eyeballs so yeah let's

get these little cardboard little shields they can hold up in front of their eyes and then be like, no, that's it. System-wide lockdown. Like in another context, it feels like in a family, like one of the kids broke a rule. So we're not going to Disneyland anymore. No McDonald's. Yeah. And so is that what happened? And it's just punitive.

Maybe like they uncovered a planned escape or something like that on the day of the eclipse. It's very, very odd. And it's like just like already our carceral system so fucked up. It's like can some of the people who are locked up for having drugs on them look at the eclipse? They're going to need to explain this because it is it's so that is such a baffling move that i want to know what the thinking is like this is i literally can't think of a single reason outside of like i don't know we just thought it would be like kind of fun and cruel yeah right we want to look at the eclipse and so we can't be looking at them and the eclipse at the same time so we're gonna lock them away

and then go out there it's like the worst parents in the world yeah yeah yeah so i've actually decided to lock my kids in a closet yeah well no we're gonna go to the disneyland hotel but they're gonna stay in the hotel the whole time we're gonna be out on the we're gonna ride all the new star wars rides yeah oh i mean it looks like uh the fuhrer i mean mean, Governor Kathy Hochul, who is having system-wide subway lockdowns. She is saying, again, there's 29 counties in New York that are also in the path of totality. So New York is, I think, just also full-on state of emergency. What do they think an eclipse is? I'm very confused. One of the states of emergency is because states of emergencies because they've like been advertising

this is like we're in the path of totality come to niagara falls and they people heard them and they're having unprecedented levels of like travelers planning to come that they're just like unprepared for that is i mean the prison one doesn't really make sense yeah the prison they're already in a place yeah there's like no nobody's coming to the prison to view the eclipse oh yeah it's it's just weird that even the a state of emergency for like visitor like they've never had like a fucking music festival in upstate New York. Not like this. Not like this. They said that the tourism that's coming to Indianapolis

like eclipses the amount of tourism that came to Indianapolis for the fucking Super Bowl. By like orders of magnitude. It's not even like by a little bit. It's like three Super Bowls. Okay, now I'm wondering, what do these guys know that we don't know about how cool

eclipses are i mean i know eclipses are cool and stuff but it seems like it's weird that everyone like more so than the super bowl are like we gotta go to see this have you been have you seen a have you been in like a full-blown path of totality eclipse experience or just i guess i haven't i guess maybe you should stop running your mouth all right yeah that's fair that's fair you look ignorant as fuck dude oh listen i'm sure it's i'm sure it's sick i'm sure thank you dude just admit it's sick dude the real i admit it's possibly sick but like no no possibly dude don't fucking mince words i traveled to indiana sick i don't think anything that's that is the question that we're going to get the answer to. Hey, get an illegal gun while you're there.

I've been speculating that all the footage I've seen of people in the paths of totality from recent eclipses, they always give me the impression of people after they just saw The Phantom Menace and are still trying to convince themselves that what they just saw is awesome. But I think what's driving this massive hajj movement of humans to the path of totality that's happening

is that people have had these experiences that I think, like, my experience with the past two eclipses has been underwhelming and the first thing you hear when you're like that call that an eclipse which is what i scream at the sky as the eclipse is happening the first thing people say is like oh you have to go to the path of totality so i feel like these like the marketing has been perfect to drive people to the path of totality for these upcoming eclipses this is a

clip of people in the path of totality where it starts off it's sunny okay here's okay that looks sick it's about to sunny day here we go Oh It's getting dark Oh it's getting darker Look now it looks like It's 6pm 7pm Dang bro Oh yeah look at that Look at that

Look at that Oh fuck I mean The sun's getting tiny The sun gets tiny The tornadoes People are screaming People are

I'm coming that is crazy this is fucking sick dude you need to go to the path of totality Matt Lieb and bring the voice modulator this is so fucking sick bro I'm coming

I have now reached my my full eventuality oh shit as a spiritual being fire it up i do just want to say six inmates in new york have filed a lawsuit arguing that them being denied the chance to witness the eclipse violates their constitutional religious rights sure yeah fuck that like let them i get it let them watch the eclipse and if they turn into a mythical beast like you seem to fear then that's great news you know that makes the world so much more interesting exactly warden of the department of corrections if that happens option the ip inevitably that emerges from the billionaire yeah turn into monsters during a total eclipse otherwise shut the fuck up and let people be outside like they would be outside in any way

it's just more like you want to give them cardboard eye shields or not yeah yeah and because like i mean one of the guys who's the plaintiff in that he's an atheist who argued prior to them pulling the plug on this saying like, it's my right to be able to observe this. Like I'm not as an atheist. I'm like, I observed through the marvel of scientific discovery. So experiencing a solar eclipse is part and parcel of that, my belief system. And then there are other like, and they're just saying, so what, what's the deal? And then, so they granted this guy the opportunity, like I think last month. And then they did a U-turn on it. Cool. Well, I guess prison wardens aren't as cool as we all thought. Yeah, dude. What happened to them? They used to be sick.

Not as cool as Shawshank made them seem. I saw The Last Castle with James Gandolfini. Robert Redford. Anyway, how was it? Can you get a little taste of what it would be like in the path of totality there, Matt? Oh, God. My dick. Oh, the sun is making me cum.

I don't know, guys. This is what you want. I don't know, guys. He's bailing on it with a voice. This is what you want. Are you happy? Are you happy now? Just a family-friendly event.

The children are screaming. Oh, God. Oh, look at that. The sun is getting smaller. It's getting smaller. And my dick is getting harder. Okay, wait. This is the part right after that this is now that same clip this is from greenville south carolina where now the eclipse is now waning and the sun is coming out so i guess

we can totally hear like what the full i guess release for lack of a better word is for people sunnier sunnier sunnier oh my god outstanding i mean look that's i'm i'm only standing in a field being like truly like they should they cut to his little kid who's just standing there with his little glasses on just staring so all he did was see the sun kind of dim and then come back yeah i don't know it's like there's something magical about the idea of it right like that sure like looking around like someone needs to make that movie it'll be dope miles needs credit like at least 60 percent 60 points on the back end it's called apocalypto the apocalypto bank robbery thank you and but then like just sitting in a field watching the sun turn into a smaller sun and then come back feels

i don't know like even in that one which was dope feels like people are like, ah, so that's the thing then, huh? Okay, you want another group of people hooting and hollering for an eclipse? Everyone has the same reaction when the eclipse comes. Oh, man. Oh, it's happening. It's happening. Oh, yeah.

Now my dick is as big as the sun i think it's just i think it's like partially people wanting to experience something like they can't without doing drugs yeah yeah yeah there's that too that would be true because you're like what the fuck i'm like well i've been in a fucking k-hole before relax yeah you know what i mean but like this i get it too. This feels like there's just so much. There's so many sensations that it engages. And again, I only say this because I can't go on a fucking path of totality this year.

My whole thing is I'm pissed that I'm not going to have the totality that I didn't plan well enough. And so I am just telling you all it's going to suck. That's what you're telling your kids? Dad, my friends are going to the Niagara Falls. Are we going to? It's going to fucking suck. It's going to suck. It's not even as good as you think it's going to be.

Liam's family are fucking losers. He's only doing that because he's cheating on their mom, and he's trying to make good and break the news to them during the eclipse. It's because he can't afford to see dune to an imax but we can that's for pores okay yeah tourism just yeah preemptively hating on the eclipse i love it yeah i mean just like if everyone was getting naked no children allowed, obviously.

Just adults. Naked. And a Thanos voice changer. Yeah. And a Thanos voice changer. Then I get it. But until that, if an orgy breaks out in the path of totality, then I will go next year. You know there is some kind of adult-only totality fuck party in the field.

Weird masks. Oh, easily is some kind of adult-only totally fuck party. Weird masks. Oh, easily. Greek something. What's that ancient Greek drug that they all drank back in the... Wine. Yeah, that's the one. They're all drinking wine. Not Eros, but yeah, there's some.

Anyways. Oh, henbane or some shit? No, there's just like an old. Opium? Yeah. You're talking about weed? Yeah. They were enlightened.

You know what I mean? But yeah, I could definitely see some like, all right, everybody get your fucking clothes off. The totality's coming. Yeah. And then, yeah. I'm sure there are people who are trying to time an orgasm out to the totality. For sure. yeah i'm sure there are people who are trying to time an orgasm out to the totality for sure and and you know but i also think it's like equally as likely as there's like

five people who are like it's time for our group suicide you know what i mean like right like it's gonna be like that that comet cult you know yeah like yeah so i don't know it feels you know a little bit of something for everyone i don't want to yuck their yum so i don't either no but yeah no if you want to fuck in a field in the shadows of the eclipse go ahead please do please do i don't know is that like what i feel the i i just like that's not that's not when i'm at my most like ability like able to like appreciate deep like spiritual things like you know what I mean like when you're looking at the sun or when you're fucking

when I'm fucking like yeah I'm not like I feel like I kind of miss it now I want to see you fuck shit are you doing I feel the most apart from God when I am fucked.

I am Apollo. Hurry, guys. Take a quick break. That is the... That's the... That's, I think, the best option I've heard yet. For what? To shout when the sun dims. God is there.

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Oh, my brain! 60 Minutes, Dare Spiegel, and some outlet called... The Insider. Just The Insider. Oh, not the Epoch Times? No. Apparently not the show that would come on after school it wasn't that called insider inside edition that's inside edition yeah yeah or there

is business insider that goes by insider for short but that's this is like a lot vn i think this is a lot vn like russian expat zine that like mainly reports on like russian badness and so the 60 minutes came back with a report that was like there were two directed energy weapons that caused those symptoms and it's a lot of the similar shit that we've heard before so for people who have not been listening for five years yeah this is one of the first stories that we covered where like these diplomats uh that people seem to now admit are cia agents or spies which are not part of the amigos go on exactly or diplomats were in diplomatically cuba and said that they like heard this high-pitched sound that attacked them. And always the thing is there would be a sound,

they would feel this inner ear pressure, and then they would start experiencing symptoms like they had brain damage of one sort or another. But it was always the family of symptoms was pretty broad it just seemed weird first of all like it was very intriguing it's like whoa there's this like sci-fi weapon that's attacking directed energy weapon or something yeah that's what they started calling it a directed energy weapon but it also if you're familiar with the history of like psychosomatic disorders it had a lot of the qualities where

it was like vague and the thing that was causing it like when you asked scientists who were actually experts on like how like they would be like it maybe it's a sonic weapon uh like sonic ray and then you ask scientists and they're like that would be impossible you can't through a wall into somebody's brain or maybe it's microwaves no yeah and so 60 minutes and you know various institutions have been reporting on it pretty credulously until last year when the u.s intelligence community came out and was, there's no credible evidence that a foreign country was behind these symptoms. This group of symptoms. Oh, yeah. Well, then explain why I have a headache and I want to divorce my wife.

Fucking Havana syndrome, chief. Havana syndrome, dude. I would have never wanted to divorce my wife. It's kind of wild. Like the article. So it's like a 60 minutes piece, this article in insider. I don't know if it's like a weird translation or what happened, but like one of the opening paragraphs calls it a anonymous, like they, they use the word anonymous instead of anomalous they say that unexplained anonymous health incidents so like there's a massive typo in the name of the like health incident that you're trying to describe and this is like a report with 60 minutes are we just

like at that point where mainstream journalism has just like fucked off and like doesn't even spell check anymore but i mean maybe the the someone mentioned it and they're like no i meant it i meant anonymous just doubling down print it i meant it you can't prove i'm gonna print it that's because i want that's because how i wanted it see i didn't change it see but that is that's one of the symptoms of Vanna syndrome. Yeah. Yeah. It's that sometimes I write wrong words. So 60 Minutes, I watched the 60 Minutes segment and they basically say it's not a functional neurological disorder.

It's Russia. They interview a Stanford microbiologist. You'll note that this isn't a microbiological phenomenon that we're trying to study. Yeah, but he's a sciencer. But he went to Stanford and he's a scientist. Yeah, very smart science Stanford man. Yeah, he suggested there's clear evidence of an injury to the auditory and vestibular system of the brain. Yeah, those words sound big.

He knows what he's saying. My grandmother's house had a vestibular system. People immediately pointed out that this evidence doesn't seem to exist. He doesn't present any specifics in the piece. Doesn't mention that many Havana syndrome patients have been diagnosed with psychosomatic disorders that are commonly triggered by stress. The big piece of evidence that like sealed it for me is that when like if they had at the point where they thought they experienced the attack if somebody had come in and like physically hit them in the head with you know an object you know they had a physical brain injury that they would have had a bunch of

symptoms and like sure injuries to the brain like don't manifest in the same way always so sure it might not be very specific it might be kind of a diffuse set of symptoms but they get better like physical injuries to the brain physical attacks to the brain get better the thing that doesn't get better and that gets worse which is what happens in a lot of these cases is these like they're, you know, they don't like to call them psychosomatic. They call it a functional disorder, but they are like neurologically based. And they're things that like two years later, it's way worse than it was when it started. And that's what you're seeing in a lot of these cases.

And even in the 60 minutes piece they continue to point to that they're like and this like her life is now been ruined and like she's like now way worse than she was just like the last time we talked to her oh like that lady who had the flu shot and couldn't walk right exactly eight years ago on tv yeah it started out it was just a headache but now i got imposter syndrome i got white fragility i got all these new i can't stop millie rocking you know my limbs are just all i do i got the three things that like so because i get i get tagged in this every time a new Havana syndrome thing comes out. So just like for people, if they want to know like what my thoughts are on a new piece of

evidence of the Havana syndrome, the three things that anything, any new report would need to address for it to like seem significant to me. One, they recorded like in Havana, they recorded the sound that they heard that was supposed to be like attacking them. Oh, yeah. I have a recording of that sound. I'm recording it. Are you cleared to air this? This is classified information.

Yeah, no, it's classified. But I think, I don't know. I mean, you guys, let me know if you get any pushback from the government. But I have the Havana Syndrome sound. Okay, let me hear your brain there it is that's what it sounds like nailed it yeah i don't know how they got fidel castro's voice into my brain but that's that's how it did but such a beautiful you

know so that was one of the sounds of the attacks the other sound that they heard they recorded they were like it was a high-pitched screeching and they sent it into the lab and the lab was like we don't know what this is and then they asked the like biologists and they were like oh those are crickets those are those are crickets that that are in Cuba and they probably hadn't heard before. And so they sounded a little weird to them. And because they're in a paranoid, stressed out state, they were like, we're being attacked instead of those crickets sound weird. So that's one thing you would need to explain. one thing you would need to explain uh another thing you would need to explain is how the symptoms keep getting worse when that's not supposed to happen in a physical injury it's a superpowered

weapon jack you don't understand it directed energy dude yeah and then some science that the other big detail is that scientists are like nothing but like it can't be a sound weapon and it can't be a microwave for various reasons so like they need to explain that but like the 60 minutes report just kind of first of all like leans on how long lasting the injuries the symptoms are they're like yeah and that proves that it was bad right and just kind of quickly go like brushes past the idea of their like find a scientist who's like thinks that it could be this weapon right and then they have just like these documents where like a russian intelligence agency was like awarding people for their use of like studying sonic weapons non-lethal acoustic weapons yeah non-lethal

acoustic weapons which is something that the police in the united states already use and for crowd dispersal but it's not a like focused beam of sound that everybody around you can't hear it's like loud as fuck and like wakes would wake up everybody around you. Like it's, that's what sonic weaponry is. So yeah. And these symptoms were like, it was a silent thing, but then suddenly it was like a loud noise coming from inside my head. It's like,

yeah, it is coming from inside your head. Unfortunately. Right. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's like,

you got Germany, the America, Latvia, all, all going in. I mean, look, you got Germany, America, Latvia, all going in on some like Russian being like, let's just fire up the Russophobia for this one. Maybe, I don't know. Again, I think in the beginning you were like saying, Jack, that it's like, is this to try and just kind of like keep the intelligence, can like try and create more funds to invest in like weird countermeasures for sonic weapons yeah i don't know like keep the pot boiling of like there's some sort of jimmy mcnulty creates a serial killer scenario in which it's like this is how he has decided he's going to to like get more money to do some other shit that's what it feels like because it's so fake it's so wild to me that 60 minutes is staying on this after the like intelligence community like came out and was like this is not a thing like please please stop you're embarrassing us is the head of 60 minutes just like a like didn't get a refund on like a cuban vacation or something and it's like i mean there's always like

these arguments from you know in a lot of like conspiracy circles and also like more i don't know like they're like that that these mainstream institutions have like cia ties you know and i don't believe i would never believe such a thing. No, that's impossible. And so this does just make me look like I'm like, somebody needs to do the article about this story. I'm like, why this won't go away. Yeah. Like why it won't go away. Who's pushing it? Who are their sources?

And like, do they even believe it? Or are they like, you know, being fooled? What's what's happening? Yeah. It's really interesting like that. It keeps coming back. I'm fascinated by that fact for sure. Yeah.

Well, no, but I'm saying like all of these countries have a vested interest to be like, you know, they have their own problems with Russia. So it like it does. I could be like, OK, so this these three nations, their various journalistic outlets decided to like keep this very specific kind of story going it's like who does it benefit because it doesn't seem like it benefits the people who are suffering yeah especially when they're just glossing over like the medical and scientific communities yeah like so here's some things that the 60 minute story forgets to mention just last month a five-year national institute of health study concluded no evidence of brain injuries or degeneration appeared in Havana syndrome victims.

The big thing that, like, one government employee had to be surgically treated for holes in her inner ear canals. And they, like, that's the detail that they kind of leave you with. Like, when I saw that, I was like, oh, wow. Like, okay, maybe it's time to, like, take a second look at this. But it turns out that condition can be caused by changes in air and water pressure like it can happen from taking a plane ride or like scuba diving or strenuous physical exercise so it's not like they they it's not like a smoking gun like they're smoking guns are like very circumstantial and not smoking. You know, they're non-smoking guns.

They're just guns. They're just guns. It's just a gun, Your Honor. Ah, indeed, indeed, indeed. Pace closed. It's just, yeah, I don't know. The U.S. has been developing similar weapons for decades, like the kind of ear-piercing noise. And we don't have anything that can do the thing that these people think they can.

Right, because weren't they saying if you had something like that, everyone would hear it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or based on existing technology that exists. Yeah, they have sonic weaponry or acoustic things, and they will blow people out of bed like they're so loud and these were rays of like energy that like entered people's heads and like everybody who hears that who knows how ultrasound emitting devices or microwave emitting devices work are all like it doesn't a weapon capable of afflicting inflicting this is a quote from an expert a weapon capable of inflicting brain injury from a distance would be too unwieldy to

use in urban areas yeah yeah it's not like a targeted focus you go through the sniper scope and aim a microwave ray at somebody's brain which seems to be what they're assuming. Not yet. Someday, though. Yeah. Have they figured out the brown note? Is that real? I remember that. I think they were looking into that. Yeah. I would love that. For people who don't know, that's a sonic frequency that would just make you

just shit yourself. It makes you shit yourself. It's a note that's so low that you go poo-poo, which is like, I don't know. That'd be a pretty sick weapon for anyone. I mean, it'd be great for anyone who's constipated. That'd be sick. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. It's a hype. It's hypothetical. It's a hypothetical infrasonic frequency. So we're still not there. They can't figure that out. They're definitely not going to, you know, make the Havana Ray, you know?

Right. Yeah. Right. Exactly. they're definitely not gonna you know make the havana ray you know right yeah right exactly i feel like before you can like silently just like laser beam into someone's brain you got to make people shit themselves right you gotta have a note that makes a company of army men shit themselves yeah that's like on that technology tree exactly civilization you don't you can't just skip the brown you can't skip generations you're skipping the brown note. You can't skip generations. You're skipping the brown note? No way.

I'm pretty sure DARPA was looking into that. Is DARPA the one that's like science fiction weapons for the Pentagon? Yeah. They are documented as having looked for a brown note emitting device. Fucking freaks. We give so much money to the military industrial complex that we have like an entire

wing that's just like, let's just watch James Bond movies and read fantasy novels and see what kind of cool shit. Yeah. That's fun. Well, Matt, what a pleasure having you. It's been such a pleasure being here. I love you guys.

I love talking about the news with you. We love you.. I love talking about the news with you. And we love you. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? If you got the balls to tell people. Yeah, yeah. You should probably follow me on Instagram, at MattLeapJokes. But you don't have the balls to tell your friends to follow me, too.

In the basket. Yeah. And if, you know, because you're all a bunch of cowards, you won't listen to Bad Has Bar, the world's most moral podcast about Israeli propaganda.

It's a lot of fun, but you're too scared. I don't know. And yeah. And then follow me on Twitter at Matt Lieb. There you go. Is there a work of media you've been enjoying there is a tweet that i really really liked by friend of the show uh christy yamaguchi main yeah so do you guys know i don't even know how to describe her she's like the hippie

singer yes the white lady with the dreads? The one with all the shit in her face? Yes. No, that's Trudy. That's my wife. My wife. Nice Pulp Fiction reference. Sorry, had to. But yeah, that's what you're talking about? No, it's like, you know who I'm talking about?

The lady with the dreads and she's white. Yeah, the blonde dreads and she's like a bikini and just so much, so many bracelets and necklaces. Yeah. So, uh, yeah.

Uh, Christy Yamaguchi main, uh, posted a picture of her and said my favorite lyrics of hers. And it just says, there's too much fucking shit on me, which is a reference to, uh,

if you know, I think you should leave. It is a, I think you should leave. It is a, I think you should leave reference, which I liked a lot. I did too. Miles, where can people find you?

Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Find me on the app based platforms at miles of gray. If you like the basketball, check Jack and I out on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad. And then you can also find me on four20 day fiance talking about 90 day fiance uh work of media i've been liking i'm just trying to get through the gentleman i don't know if i like it like yeah it's all over the place but it's kind of like it's fun in this way that it's pretty frictionless to

just let the next episode go yeah we talked about yesterday's trends it's uh it's a of like it's fun in this way that it's pretty frictionless to just let the next episode go. Yeah, we talked about it on yesterday's Trends. It's a good one. It's one of the latest choices from on a streaming corner. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And you'll hear more about that. Would you agree that it's like better than most of his stuff since like Snatch and Lockstock? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. It's been just I feel like he had a really good nike commercial like a commercial that was better than half the movies put out since then but yeah it just i don't know it's just kind of back to for people being like oh yeah it's people in england gangsters talk funny yeah yeah i like when they do that yeah oh i don't know it's me against her yeah exactly i'll fight me that's really good i'll make i'll watch a whole show that's like that fight me da five years oh man it's me jack o'brien

and i've made a plan to fight me da right i've made a plan like i'm responsible about it yes let's see a tweet i've been enjoying sticking with i think you should leave references honey at honey scoob tweeted how did y'all react the first time y'all seen someone doing coke and uh sarah at sabla just responded with the picture of the professor who's like give me that give me that I should have got that I should have got that

that one like never gets old for me every time I rewatch it that one my favorite guy R.I.P. and then Bobby at Bobby Likes Beers Every time I rewatch it, that one fucking kills me. Yeah, RIP. RIP. RIP. Yeah. And then Bobby at BobbyLikesBeers tweeted,

call me a nicotine addict the way I'm addicted to nicotine. Wow. That's good. That's good. That's good. And then I don't know. I'm not going to sit here and describe the whole thing, but if y'all don't follow Will Sennett,

his TikTok video talking to to timothy chalamet about how he would strike him out is uh an all-time internet classic that i will link off to on the footnotes oh yeah footnote footnotes uh all right you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram We have a Facebook fan page And a website, DailyZeitgeist.com Where we post our episodes and our footnotes Where we link off the information

That we talked about in today's episode Holy shit, as well as A song that we think you might Enjoy, Miles What's a song you think people might enjoy oh man i've just been going back into tyler the creator's old work yeah man or i haven't really i i listened to a little bit when it came out but brian the editor uh is always man you should check that album out check all these albums out and uh yeah i just want to play this track new magic wand by tyler

the creator just got one of those like just you know just blow the doors off your fucking car type beats you know he's got the official what song is that endorsement for me he's my favorite migos tyler the creator i know he is and i'm playing that in your honor uh this song in honor of matt uh sung by an artist that he probably thinks is a migos every time all right we will link off to that in the footnotes today's ike has a production in honor of Matt, a song by an artist that he probably thinks is Amigos. Every time. All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes today. Zyka is the production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the

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