The Daily Zeitgeist - “HEAL” = FORGET, Fraud Failing Frequently 11.12.20

Episode Date: November 12, 2020

In episode 758, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Anna Salinas to discuss how the media is already rehabilitating the GOP's image, more of Trump refusing to admit he lost, the Dean Browning and 'D...an Purdy' twitter drama, Trump's latest election fundraiser scam, a USPS worker crying fraud with no evidence, Britney Spears conservatorship update, and more!FOOTNOTES: The Media Is Already Rehabilitating the GOP—and Walking America Into a Trap Nearly 80% of Americans say Biden won White House, ignoring Trump's refusal to concede: Reuters/Ipsos poll Trump blocks transition as he refuses to accept loss The incredibly bizarre Dean Browning and “Dan Purdy” Twitter drama, explained Trump won't back down from legal war as money woes and infighting rage: Sources To prevent the spread of disinformation by amplifying specific words/phrases, I'm only posting screenshots for now. Trump solicits ‘election defense’ donations that also finance his new leadership PAC Governor's pitch to aid Trump appears to benefit her own campaign fund Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million to Charities for Misuse of Foundation Trump used $258,000 from his charity to settle legal problems USPS Worker Cries Vote Fraud, Recants, Recants Recantation. Must Be Project Veritas! Britney Spears to receive a co-conservator as court declines to revoke her father's guardianship WATCH: Ovrkast - Face (feat. Navy Blue) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, November 12th, 2020, 69. Very nice days until January 20th. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I am a man who runs on sugar. Got Mountain Dew in my veins. For the next 70 days, I will guzzle to try and drown my trump fears away uh that is courtesy of podge moran and i am thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray oh man it's miles gray
Starting point is 00:02:58 aka well i'm fine to be an american where we might be fascist free, maybe. But I won't forget the fuckery and all the shit they did to me. And I'll gladly smoke trees, drink cold brew and suffer from ED. Cause there ain't no doubt I love this pot. God bless the TDZ. All right. That's a fucking nine-hander off of Discord. Guys, shout out to Harry S. J. Man.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Preselect Mo Biden. Secretary of Interior Jiki Sanders. Yeah, everybody came together on that one. Yeah, yeah. Beautiful. Beauty. Also, I love that, what is that? Oh Brother?
Starting point is 00:03:52 Was that what that song was? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Soggy Bottom Boys. Yep. Yeah. These boys ain't white. These boys is miscegenated. That's the part I was like, damn, I remember that word. That song's about leaving Kentucky behind,
Starting point is 00:04:04 and Kentucky is where I became addicted to mountain dew uh that is my mountain dew lore so uh very you know you just nailed it podge mountain dew lore all right miles let's tell the people real quick what we're talking about and then we will intro our guest we're going to talk about how the media is dealing with just the i don't know whatever whatever the fuck the republicans are doing right now we're gonna talk about how covet is off the charts and trump has just dropped off the grid uh we're gonna talk about you know fox not knowing what to do with itself i want to talk about the dean browning saga uh i don't know if y'all caught that dude um the pennsylvania the shape shifter conservative pennsylvania politician he rules uh
Starting point is 00:04:53 we're going to talk about trump's latest fundraiser uh and just all the emails he's sending out we're going to talk about britney spears we're going to talk about all sorts of shit. But first, we would like to introduce our guest. She is the hilarious, the talented, Anna Salina! Oh my God! I'm so excited to be here! It's so good to have you back. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:05:25 I'm so excited to be here. It's so good to have you back. How are you doing? I'm good. You know, I know that I have an audience here because someone messaged me in the like year since I've got, it's been a year I think since I've been on and said, hey, would love to hear you back on the Daily Sidekast. And I was like, I want to give the people what they want. There you go. Have to give the people. Quick question. There you go. Have to give the people. Quick question.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Are you registered to vote in Florida or California? I'm registered in California, which is truly a mistake. Okay. I mean, it's like cool to. I was just thinking about that. I'm like. Yeah. And also Sarasota, my hometown, went red, but it is usually a pretty slim margin because
Starting point is 00:06:00 it went for Obama and like, it's a bummer. Yep. I heard it was down to one vote too so it was it was down to one vote and they called me they're like anna we we have the polls open for you yeah we're we're waiting you're gonna get that ballot in and i was like guys it's not happening like yeah it's so embarrassing to get id checked with a florida drive florida driver's license out here in la i'm. I have to change. It's like the Jefferson or Burr
Starting point is 00:06:27 song from Hamilton. Deep cut Hamilton reference. Which one is that? Is it about getting an ID in Florida? Jefferson or Burr. Where everybody's just waiting for Hamilton to tell them who to vote for. Oh, gotcha. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Yeah. Yeah, you gotta get a second address in florida because the tax breaks are off the chain um yeah yeah i mean i'm thinking about just like uh you know when i get a little older uh having a timeshare down there where I can go golfing whenever I want. Maybe in the villages that retirement can be. Oh, fuck yeah. Hell yeah. A great place to be a Republican. A less great place to not be.
Starting point is 00:07:16 But, you know, it's hot. They had that weak little Biden parade. They tried. Yeah. They tried. They had a Black Lives Matter protest. It was all white people.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I shouldn't say that. That's erasing some of my friends who are black organizers there. It was a lot of white people. Shout out to them. Anna, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I researched, and this isn't very sexy, but something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I
Starting point is 00:07:45 researched, and this isn't very sexy, but my puppy is biting too much and my puppy has too much energy. Go on. Because I was getting kinky with my puppy. That is Miles' very specific kink.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Puppy bites? I'm a puppy mom right now. I've had this puppy for a month. I got a dog like a lot of people because I was like, I'm home all the time. This is great. What do you do with dogs? You're home. That's what they want.
Starting point is 00:08:19 They want you to be home. But no, she's so much work and she bites my finger so much and she's like four pounds and i shouldn't it's one of those things where i feel like less of a man i'm not a man but that's how i feel like i'm less of a man that very toxically normative sense yes exactly less of a man for what yeah for being tortured she bites so hard and like yesterday. Oh, and they got them little teeth too, huh? Oh, they're so sharp. Needle teeth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Yes, and my fingers are like covered in little cuts. It's horribly infected. Yes. She bit my nail and I'm like, oh God, not again.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I feel like I'm afraid of her and she's four months old. But aren't you sort of like three and a half? Becoming sort of like, what's old. But aren't you sort of like becoming sort of like, what's that like Buddhist maxim about just sort of like, you don't fear like the animal, like when you're bit by them, because that is their nature.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And it's not, you know, that's just, you're just existing within the animal's nature. But I guess to the point where you're dying like a death by a thousand needle bites to your hands, it's a little bit hard to keep your composure. It is.
Starting point is 00:09:24 They're little needles. And you're not, because of course it's a little bit hard to keep your composure. It is. They're little needles. And you're not, because of course, it's a baby. So she's crying right now. I don't know if you can. I don't think you can, but listeners, that's what you hear. It's a baby for sure. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:09:37 She, you can't get mad at her. You're not even really supposed to say, also, if any listeners are like dog trainers call me out let me know no there's dog dog trainer gang is definitely i think represented on this show please help her right what does she do yeah dog gang um yeah like you're not supposed to say no so like i just have to be like oh don't like you're like yes yeah and then like give her a bone but then she doesn't want the bone she wants my fingers or like she'll miss the bone and hit my fingers i'm getting really deep into something that might not be relevant to like 70 of your listeners but uh-huh it's like
Starting point is 00:10:17 i feel like such a little weenie she rules my life she's so small well what could you do it's not like you're gonna be like you're gonna puff your chest up against the dog and get aggro with it you know like you're just you're doing what you can you know you can't be sweet you can't even when i i'll like get angry and like put her down on the floor but with a little a little sauce you know like a little like you're down and i feel so bad because it's like, oh, no. That's what like when people, you know, hit their kids for punishment. It's like, you feel guilty.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Like, I don't, not that I'm hitting my dog. I'm really painting myself into a corner here. Whenever you're angry at the dog, you feel guilty because you're like, you don't, you don't know what you're doing. Yeah, you don't know any better. Right. Yeah. Also, I think I've offended a lot of people complaining about the dogs i'll be like parents i know what it's like we're exhausted right you have kids i have a dog it's the same puppies you kind of put them down with some sauce yeah you know how it is when you put your kid down with sauce. Oh, come on now. I've definitely, I've had both in my house.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And puppies are very difficult when they're at that point where they can't go. Like, they keep going to the bathroom in the house. And, like, you can't get them. You also can't take them outside because they don't have their shots yet and all that. So, like, that's very tricky. She just got her shot. So so yes, I relate to that. But I interrupted you. What were you saying?
Starting point is 00:11:49 I was going to say, whereas infants, you can just let them go bathroom outside right away. Yeah. They don't need their shots either to go to the park. Yeah, exactly. Take them right to the baby park. Let them off leash. Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Oh, yeah. Jack, after this, you'll have to text me that where that off leash baby park is okay yeah jesus christ i mean why are you interested in that mom yeah because you know when i have my off-leash child you know uh anna what is something you think is underrated um i think uh outdoor coffee shops are underrated? I think outdoor coffee shops are underrated right now. I guess that's not really pop culture, but I am
Starting point is 00:12:31 suffering. Like a lot of people, I live here with my boyfriend, Edgar. My brother is staying with us, and now this dog. You can't go to bars in LA. I get shamed for going to restaurants, like you can't go to bars in la i get shamed for going to restaurants so i don't go to like the people in my bubble are not pro outdoor restaurants so i'm not allowed to go to
Starting point is 00:12:54 them yeah so i have been occasionally when i have time going to like these there's like maybe four in close proximity coffee shops that have outdoor seating and it feels like the before times like i can sit i can do a little work shout out um habitat cafe stories cafe in echo park i just it's like one of the only things that makes me feel human right now yeah is it yeah yeah the, like being shoulder to shoulder, or what is it, like the transactional nature? Because I know like just going to the grocery store is like how I'm like, damn, like, look, I paid for something. And this person said, thank you, and then gave me a receipt.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And then I will walk to my car and go home. Oh, totally. That is like a thrill for me. I did go to Target the other day, and oh, that felt so fucking good. I had to take the puppy, but it was felt so fucking good i had to take the puppy but it was just still so good going to target high is dangerous right now because if you're trying to be in and out like i used to love to get high and go to the grocery store but yeah i can't i can't spend 90 minutes in a grocery store so i have to be like like in my mind i'm
Starting point is 00:14:02 like saying it all in my mind i'm'm like, eggs, butter, cheese, tortilla, eggs, butter, cheese, tortilla, seltzer, and like trying to go through it. You got to write it down, man. But then next thing I know, I'm like listening to Las Culturistas or something, and I'm like laughing, like looking at like a bag of cheese because they're high in the episode. I'm like, they shouldn't have smoked this episode. And I'm just like staring at a salad bar.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So, yeah, I'm kind of balancing's i'm i feel that yeah and then you want to buy all the decorations like i skipped halloween i don't know about you guys i did not buy decorations i didn't do pumpkins i vaguely dressed up as brendan uri from panic at the disco because i happen to have some stuff in a box for sketch comedy yeah which which the found item uh halloween costume is a specialty of mine where you just like you're like oh maybe i would look like that character if i put that on and no one would get it except because everyone had an instagram halloween you can be like see here's what i was copying uh i write sins not tragedies yeah like
Starting point is 00:15:07 when everyone was posting photos they weren't going anywhere they're just like this is what a costume would have been for me this year yeah because i was confounded as an elder uh doing my like weekly scroll on social media i'm like are people going out and i'm like are you just taking a photo be like and this was the costume. Now I take it off. 2020 was the year of conceptual Halloween costumes because you didn't have to go out to a party. You could have a really like cumbersome costume and it didn't matter if anyone got it. Cause you could let them know upon sight with like reference. Like I saw maybe four people dressed up as,
Starting point is 00:15:44 uh, Drew Barrymore from, what was it, Scream with the telephone. Yeah, yeah. And one person was dressed up as the telephone. And it's like, you don't want to be that in real life, but for Instagram, it's perfect. For the grandma. Be a telephone.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Isn't that just a sweater with blonde hair and a telephone? Yeah, that's it. But it's so much more. It's so much more. What is something you think is overrated? Okay, I think getting hot is overrated right now. I have a couple friends who are working out right now and getting jacked and like oh okay aesthetically hot getting aesthetically hot okay i have a lot of friends who are doing no drink like sober i guess sober
Starting point is 00:16:34 october became sober sober in november yeah and like if that if you're trying to quit drinking because of addiction great good on you but there are people who are like trying to quit drinking because of addiction. Great. Good on you. But there are people who are like trying to lose weight. And I'm like, I thought we were in this together. Together. I thought we were all like, we're going to eat what we want. We're going to probably drink every night,
Starting point is 00:16:56 smoke a lot of weed. And you know, when we come out of it, we'll be less hot and that's fine. And I have been doing that, but not everybody has. You're redefining they're they're they're on that 2019 shit you know what i mean exactly we're on this post apocalyptic version of hotness which is sort of like i indulged myself to get through yeah yes but i love the attitude of like don't leave me behind that's like when my friends would smoke
Starting point is 00:17:24 uh quit smoking weed in college like when we graduated like yeah, don't leave me behind. That's like when my friends quit smoking weed in college, like when we graduated. Like, yeah, I don't know, man. Like, I'm about to start my job. I can't really be smoking like that anymore. I'm like, oh, okay, motherfucking coward. I hate that. I fucking hate that. You on your way to work right now?
Starting point is 00:17:37 Oh, fuck. But spoken like a true person who just doesn't like the mirror being held up to them. Like, oh, okay okay so because i'm still smoking maybe i should rethink i'm not doing that so you are the enemy right that is and that's me none of my jeans fit and i'm not exaggerating when i say that not even put on jeans jeans tailored pants anything that is not explicitly a sweat pant or a yoga pant does not fit me anymore i have not put on jeans they're violence they're violent oh my god jeans are violence that's a great slogan jeans are violence i mean it really if i've completely like a lot i've been talking about
Starting point is 00:18:20 this the the drip the flex is not even a real thing anymore like i used to like putting all my clothes on and be like oh yeah man a shirt with this that'll look good now i'm like just get me out of here man just gotta just gotta be covered i don't know maybe it's just a symptom of like my quarantine depression but no i've learned to love their sweat oh my god that quarantine depression mixing with seasonal depression right now. Everybody was posting memes of that like, oh, just wait till these two meet. Yeah, just the Venn diagram becomes a circle. But it's real. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Getting dark at 430. I am feeling it. Has it always gotten... Does it seem... Sorry, Ana, I have to ask this question. As the resident elderly white of this podcast, do you feel like it's getting darker earlier than it has in years past?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yes. Yes, I do. Thank you. Why is it dark at, honestly, four? Let's just say it. It's basically dark at four. And bright earlier, too. Yes, and I'm like... I feel like they fucked it up
Starting point is 00:19:24 and they're not letting on. and bright earlier too yes and i'm like i feel like they fucked it up in there i feel like they fucked up and they're not letting on like they changed all the data from years past because when i look at the data from years past it looks like we're doing about the same as we were in terms of sunrise and sunset but i swear man they they fucked up the rotation they're way too they're about an hour early on the no man no but i mean if you think about it like they've been on this schedule of like okay we do one daylight savings like switch every year like it's not like they took a year off to like get shit right so like i i just feel like it's arbitrary at a certain point um and I could have sworn that up until the point when I did research and realized that it was still exactly on point.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Well, because it's based on the Earth's orbit. I thought we voted it out. Yeah. I know. Didn't we vote away? So unless Earth's orbit has changed around the sun, I mean, I'm just having to nerd out and just be like, I know what you feel. But at the end of the day, I'm like, but you might be onto something else. Maybe Jack has detected a disturbance in Earth's planetary orbit around the sun.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And this is something that this is actually something much larger. This is this is dumb. What I'm saying is dumb. I recognize it's dumb and wrong, but I'm just telling you, I'm telling you how I feel. OK, you're dumb and wrong. I'm dumb and wrong, but I'm just telling you how I feel, okay? You're dumb and wrong. I'm dumb and wrong for supporting you. I'm with it.
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Starting point is 00:26:02 making shit up but miles you were noticing that like some weird shit's going on in the media in terms of how weird it's just it's just how this country deals with itself uh and you casey hunt on msnbc like said something like along the lines of like you know i'm like the republicans you know in congress like you know you have to give them credit for like quote like doing the work that keeps the country going or something like just the bare minimum. It's like, OK, that they vote against like relief packages. Is that really the work that's there? They're obstructionists, but still like doing this thing of like being like in case you're a Republican who just turned on MSNBC, we're nice.
Starting point is 00:26:41 OK, and you don't have to be scared, even though like you are completely fucking wrong about everything. And even Jake Tapper was like sort of cringing at the list of sort of like, you know, trying to take into account the people who have supported this administration and basically trying to like naming these people. So, you know, that they will have to be held accountable if they are trying to reenter the halls how the halls of power and i was like i don't know about that if we should be doing that i mean i get it it sounds nefarious and dark but conceptually making a list yeah sure acting like but so did see so did santa okay and we fucking love that guy so and he checked it twice yeah and yeah exactly and they won't even check these votes twice, but they need to. So this whole thing is sort of along this idea of healing, right? Joe Biden was also like, hey, we're going to work together. I will work with them. Even though I saw what everyone else saw, these people have completely jettisoned themselves from reality. from reality and they're all about this idea of healing and healing the nation and i'm just having such a hard time understanding even in this context how the media is going to like take
Starting point is 00:27:50 this tone of like why are we coddling trumpers on some like oh you poor baby it's okay because it's in the name of healing because i'm like you know i have to go there like the definition of healing is to cause a wound injury or person to become sound or healthy again so in this instance the wounds are to democracy the poor people of color lgbtqia community indigenous people a lot of people unless you're in that group of like gen x and older cis het white christian people uh this has not been a good run and you're seeing a lot of things that you would love to have changed so i'm not sure if that's the case why isn't the healing going in that direction towards those people i've named towards those institutions i'm talking about
Starting point is 00:28:41 rather than the fucking goons who smashed up the place like treating them like some fucked up emo teen werewolf who's like oh i get it baby if the full moon came out and you're just going through some stuff but let's come here let ianla save your life like it's not like this is not the fucking time for that like we these are the people who are the enemies of all that is good there's not a single thing, a policy point I can point to that shows any kind of humanity or empathy. So they need to be treated like that. Not to say like, oh, we need to fucking, like we need like violence against these people,
Starting point is 00:29:15 but they need to be held to account and they need to be run the fuck out of town. Right. Like, so I don't know, that's where I'm just like, here we go. Yeah. The focus needs to be on the healing that needs to be done with the people who were you know physically abused by this
Starting point is 00:29:33 administration and you know uh or just ideologically abused by this administration like just focus your healing if you have so much empathy like focus your healing that way that that needs to be the solution like yeah and i think it kind of comes back to that argument that was happening and that is still happening right after the election with um the democratic leadership or parts of the democratic leadership like pelosi um saying that the reason, I'm sure you guys talked about this, like the reason Democrats lost certain seats was because of defund the police, like was because of this perceived radicalism and socialism on the left. And then they point to those races in red districts and they say like, well, look, you
Starting point is 00:30:23 know, just because progressives win in blue districts and they say like well look you know just because progressives win in blue districts doesn't mean anything but i think that that logic is just so fundamentally flawed because that this the like the fieriness of the base on the left in the Democratic Party comes from people in BLM, comes from people who are appalled by ICE. So like the idea that saying defund ICE is even so scary to these moderate Democrats is like such a bummer. Yeah. I mean, look what happened when Trump focused on the base. Like he had all time, you know amazing uh yes turnout like that and he and his ideas are
Starting point is 00:31:09 far far more unpopular than the ideas from the progressive side like yeah that's one thing that i i feel like gets lost in all this is how unpopular like even even with regards to them normalizing the well we don't know who won the election yet thing. 80 percent of Americans think Biden won. Three percent think Trump did. Like the American people know. And the media is still covering it like it's a fucking both sides. They're scared.
Starting point is 00:31:38 They're scared. These people are all friends. Right. And it's unfortunate that we are the ones that are going to feel the effects of their unwillingness to shake things up in their own circles just like i was talking about when the uprisings were going down i'm like yo white people you need to fucking look around and if you're if you're sitting on the sidelines while your friends are saying some racist shit and you just keep your mouth shut you you might as well just put the maga cap on too. Because things aren't going to change unless you yourself as a human being in this node of information, takes, sentiments, philosophies, transmit the idea that I'm here for inclusivity.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I'm here for equality. I am anti-racist. This is not what I fuck with. If this is your thing, we're not vibing. In fact, you should actually remove your energy from my circle because that's not what I'm here to uplift. I'm actually here to uplift people. And all these people in media, they're in the same situation, but can't do the work
Starting point is 00:32:33 of actually expressing to their colleagues and the people they work with, like, yo, you're fucking trash, bro. I'm sorry. Like, I can't have you on like this is fucking bullshit. You're going to say something racist and I'm I'm not here for it. But they're not they're not thinking like that they're too comfortable with where they're at so they're unwilling it's a fear of discomfort and it there's something about moderate white people and maybe white culture in general although i don't know how like trumpism squares into that
Starting point is 00:32:59 but this and i'm half swedish so i see it on my fucking Swedish side so hard. This fear of discomfort and this fear of conflict and this value that, like, at the dinner table you put politics aside is just so problematic. It's why white supremacism spreads. It's because of that fear and i i do truly see it on my swedish side i mean i don't you know don't want to but that's the that's the comfort that these people have but unfortunately marginalized people do not know exactly what it's like to be uncomfortable constantly so there's no there's there's no fear on this side to be like no i'm gonna go out here with screaming in the streets what i believe because i'm already
Starting point is 00:33:49 on i'm i'm actually having to scream because i am uncomfortable and the reason you are not screaming is because you are comfortable and from your perspective you cannot understand that so the worst thing to happen to you is just make shit uncomfortable for you. Right. Without seeing what happens to everyone else. And it's sad to see how the Democrats do. They're like, and I hate to bring this up, some high school shit up, but they remind me of this homie I had in high school who got pushed around a lot. And I feel bad for him. He would like to sling drugs with me and was kind of like a fake tough guy. We were at a party in Northridge.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Some dudes pulled up to him and said, yo, give me and he gave it to him and then later on i'm not joking they just said yo come up like you run your fucking chain bro he gave him the chain then he comes up to me and some of my other boys and like and some of my friends who play football like bigger dudes and like the party was mostly like someone we knew so these goons are outnumbered but he's like yo, they took my chain. And we're like, what the fuck? Why didn't you say something? You just gave them your fucking chain.
Starting point is 00:34:50 He's like, I didn't know. Like maybe they're going to do something. And I said, what the fuck? Go get your chain back. And he went, he comes back and he had the chain. And I said, oh, good. You got your shit back. What'd you say?
Starting point is 00:35:00 He goes, oh, they said I could get it back for 40 bucks. And I was like, you bought your chain back that's what the democrats remind me of you know what i mean that is all the democrats you get fucking pushed around motherfuckers gonna take your chain you're gonna you're gonna try and reach out to your friends to be like hey can you help me out they took my chain and then you got your chain be like oh was it because no no i bought it back. You got fucking played again. And it's just hard to see that there's this, there needs to be an actual, people need to stand up to this
Starting point is 00:35:30 because for all the talk of like how we're so close to a civil war, we're looking at the people who are gonna continue to be a pain point or a source of instability. Like then, so we need to actually handle that rather than like being like, okay, well here, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Let's name, this is the Stephen Miller Children's Library. And this is the Ben Carson Institute of Neurology. We'll name these after them so the Trumpers aren't mad. No, fuck that. You're lost. There's less of you. And you just got to figure out what time it is. And the fact that we're dragging our feet because we don't want to make ignorant people uncomfortable is so fucked up.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And it's dragging us to the right, too. I mean, it's the reason that the center isn't the center anymore. That's why the center is called radical socialism now. Yeah. Yeah. If you doubt that there's a corporate hierarchy at work in the mainstream media or in the two-party political system like 69 percent of voters support medicare for all and that is treated by the mainstream media like there's no mainstream media outlet like msnbc doesn't cape for medicare for all like msnbc is like yo that's that's
Starting point is 00:36:42 impractical like cut start like start thinking about ways that we can get this through our corporate overlords. And that's the furthest left you can get. Neither party is willing to even entertain the idea of Medicare for All. And when an election happens, they slant the data to make it seem like, oh, you know, even the idea of Medicare for all was so scary to people that Trump almost won. Like, it's just... Yeah, even though they walked into the 2018 wave off the back of that messaging. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:15 It's a mess of misinformation, I think. I'm on public health care, and it's great. It's fucking awesome. It, like, the idea that anyone would not want this is like simply an information war that we lost the same thing like what prop 22 was in california where props like for again i hate to bring local news to this show but like this was a proposition that uber and lyft put together to avoid treating their employees humanely like actual employees rather than car parts. I think there was a funny tweet about that.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Yeah. And now, you know, with so they have their people to message that they made it look like Prop 22 was going to harm the drivers much in the same way that the health insurance industry will message around how Medicare for all will limit your choices, your options. Because really, at the end of the day, it's not really any of the shit we're saying. It's the fact that it's going to eat into our profits. And we're kind of on a trajectory where we need to make as much money as possible.
Starting point is 00:38:20 So that's kind of our North Star. That's it. The only ethos is profit. Yeah. Like with the Uber stuff, so that's just that's kind of our North Star and I think I hope more people will see that the only ethos is profit yeah like with the Uber stuff it's like
Starting point is 00:38:28 literally the only reason they pushed that was to increase their profit margins right because they had they had to be profitable
Starting point is 00:38:36 by a certain point based on their projections or or Wall Street would get mad yeah or they'll get mad right
Starting point is 00:38:43 oh my god so the other kind of major story that's happening right now while the president is kind of totally off the grid is that the pandemic is just off the fucking charts like basically every state uh has what's termed out of control spread where you can't even like uh think about doing contact tracing because you you probably got it from three different people and there's no relief coming from anywhere you know the the president hasn't been seen in public in days other than like a quick like appearance for veterans day but like he's not talking about anything
Starting point is 00:39:25 other than spreading his conspiracy theories about voter fraud. But they're thinking, you know, there are projections that say there's going to be 400,000 deaths by February. We've got the holidays coming up as we talked about a couple weeks ago. Like people are going to probably travel for
Starting point is 00:39:47 christmas for thanksgiving and this is like right in the teeth of like the very worst that this pandemic has been so like a lot of people are going to are going to perish it's really scary yeah yeah i mean i'm from from Florida and I see it. They have no restrictions. You can eat indoors. You can go indoors. You can't mandate a mask. So plenty of restaurants, servers don't have masks.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Gyms are open. You don't have to wear a mask in a gym. And it's almost like cultural in in that even my parents who were pretty strict i mean my dad is immunocompromised and he works in medicine knows the risk even he fucking goes to the gym and i'm like dad you know people are panting without masks indoors you know but it's like that little bit just that's that's him being strict there because he'll still wear a mask and like he doesn't go that many places he won't fly but it's sad you know and then here we're in la which even with our surge it feels like everything is so strict yeah yeah yeah oh man it's's especially the piece about the relief for people.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Yeah. Not being there. That's it's so fucking dark and morbid. And the already like the austerity takes are coming from from Republicans because they know Biden right away. President. Just so suddenly it's like, oh, my God. I mean, out of control spending. Biden's the new president. Right away. Just right away. So suddenly, it's like, oh my God, I mean, that out-of-control spending, it's like, motherfucker,
Starting point is 00:41:31 it's still the Trump administration you fuck with. What are you talking about the out-of-control? That's, again, why, shame on these fucking people for acting like you need these people around still. Or that you shouldn't be treating them like, you're like, yo, shut the fuck up. Like, I want to hear people saying that. They're like, I don like you're like yo shut the fuck up like i want to hear people saying that they're like i don't want to hear shut the fuck up mitch you had your fucking time we i want to hear someone say that saying bullshit that's what they need to fuck it maybe they you know get me in there give me kamala harris's senate seat uh but i'll yeah i'm serious i'll i'll take him to task i'm the whole thing um
Starting point is 00:42:05 all of that coupled with the idea that there's true human suffering on a scale that is just unfathomable especially like in this country where we think like everything is so great but again this is another portion where the media when donald trump is in office, I'm curious to see how much energy MSNBC has for wages, for job numbers, for unemployment. Because I've seen what it's like. I've lived through the Obama years and Clinton years. There's a way to just completely refocus what the priorities are.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And for a moment, I was like, damn, look at MSNBC or CNN talking about these issues about working people. I feel like it only serves them when they can fire that up against the right and yeah on top of all this with a jump start transition or stop start transition it it just makes me so fucking cynical and just sad yeah those takes aren't going to be coming from the mainstream media that's for sure like you're going to need to get them from uh podcasts basically that's what i was going to say like guys come on msnbc is the past you get your hot takes from podcasts you get your news from
Starting point is 00:43:17 podcasts and also probably print journalism and also print journalism that does podcasts. Right. An underrated detail of the election was that people, there was like a higher than I think ever before rate of people saying they were better off than they were four years ago. And they think that's because of all the deficit spending, all the benefits that were given to people during the COVID crisis that made people feel okay, feel like they were being taken care of. The fact that Trump's still lost by a historic margin,
Starting point is 00:43:57 or not by a historic margin, but that Biden got a historic amount of the vote is just an indication of like how completely fucked everything else that trump did was but i like that the fact that the democrats aren't going to be able to do that uh is so frustrating and i don't even know if they would do that if they had all the branches of government because they just hold themselves to a standard that the Republican Party never holds itself to. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not even a standard that helps the fucking base.
Starting point is 00:44:38 No, it doesn't help. It's for their own fucking sense of identity. The base doesn't help anybody. Yeah. It's like, well, we didn't go there. It's like, yeah, but you also didn't help anybody either.
Starting point is 00:44:46 So what the fuck was it all for? Right. It just creates a better safety net, which makes American capitalism less fevered and just
Starting point is 00:44:55 like desperate, which isn't always the best thing for corporations, I guess. Yeah. All right. Let's take another
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Starting point is 00:48:58 with each other. All that on the Happiness Lab. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And we're back. Did you guys catch the Dean Browning saga? You know it. That's as a gay black man or as a gay black guy. Yeah. Is that what you say?
Starting point is 00:49:28 Something like that? My favorite thing was catching people who posted too soon as it unfolded and were like, oh my God, look at him posting as a black man. And then going and being like, actually, the story has just unfolded more. I found like four people who had posted just too soon and then like got a barrage of responses being like, no, it's actually Patti LaBelle's nephew, not her son. So her adopted son. It started with a tweet of someone saying like what Trump created in four years, Biden will destroy in like four months or something. Yeah. And then somebody replied and said, you know, contradicted that essentially.
Starting point is 00:50:09 And then this guy, Dean Browning, who was a failed, I think, House candidate, responded to that and said, and he's, you know, maybe the whitest person you've ever seen in your life. He responded and said, as I am a gay black man and uh i had a better time under under trump than anything under obama and people i think were just initially confused because people didn't it didn't go viral like right away people were like is he like is this performance art or something people screenshotted that so fast though but then people screenshotted it and then it it started going viral and so i almost definitely what happened is that he has a puppet account that he thought he was posting under uh because he was just in a haze of you know pulling all the different levers having the different browser windows open uh and he
Starting point is 00:51:02 didn't realize he was posting as himself. And so once he got called out, he hit up his homie, Patti LaBelle's nephew, who is apparently a troll and a conservative who's online, calls himself an anti-feminist. uh he said he created a video where he was like no uh it wasn't that guy he uh just was quoting something that i sent him i am dan purdy uh except he's like a public figure people like know who he is and his name is not dan purdy and then he just kept like tripling down like this dude was just dean browning would not let it go he he just kept tripling down. This dude was just, Dean Browning would not let it go. He just kept tweeting about it, being like, I'm apparently trending.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Wish Hunter Biden's laptop had trended as much as I'm trending. Oh, fuck, bro, no. And then later he was like, I'd love to see a debate between Candace Owens and AOC. Like, oh, really, sir? You act like you didn't just fully show yourself? Okay. That's also a really sick take, dude.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I would love to see Battle of the Colored people on a debate stage. Thanks, Dean Browning. How did he get a fucking Vera? How he got a blue check. Thanks, Dean Browning. How did he get a fucking... How did he get a blue check? Oh, yeah. So he got one just for being a candidate, right? He got one for being a mutant
Starting point is 00:52:32 who can shapeshift into a conservative political candidate or a gay black man or who knows what. I think blue checks are bad. I think... Yeah, they are. Because of the amount of people spewing hate speech who have blue checks like that ruins it for everyone and we should just not have blue checks yeah i think that's how we're gonna eventually turn the tide against capitalism and hyper consumer culture is
Starting point is 00:52:56 if we completely take away the magic of the blue check that's step one yeah you know to be like no there are no there are there are no classes even on social media. We are one. The checklist. Exactly. And then we shut down Trump's Twitter account, which, like, you know is gonna happen, right? Once he's out of office. Well, he's definitely not gonna be able to...
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah, I mean, he definitely is not gonna get the benefit, like, the public interest benefits that he was getting to be able to say shit, where now they'll just be like, Oh yeah, I'm just reporting this asshole on Twitter. Can you, can you suspend his account?
Starting point is 00:53:29 Yeah. I feel like he's going to be like, still going to take up a lot of the oxygen. Like the media is still going to pay attention to him. The right wing media is still going to, you know, follow him and treat him as like the leader of like basically the, the president in waiting.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I'm not joking. Van Jones is within three years probably going to say some shit like he's really had a renaissance since he's been out of office. You know all these people are going to rehab his fucking image.
Starting point is 00:54:04 It's just a fucking... Yeah, and he'll start a TV network. There's just an inability from these people to actually be able to be like, this guy's disgusting and never put him on the fucking TV again. It's only like when we realize he's been numerically voted out of office that people are like, okay, we're going to cut that out
Starting point is 00:54:22 because that was nonsense. Yeah. God, that was virtue signaling. That's what I think. They found their integrity. So I do just want to talk about the fraud stuff real quick and just where we are with it because not talking about it,
Starting point is 00:54:38 like, I don't know. You would think anything besides the truth would make it seem more realistic than it actually is. So one thing that's happening is Trump is sending out like 20 emails a day to supporters, basically trying to get them to donate money. So he's gone into full scam mode. He's, you know know and saying things like 1 000 we're gonna match your offer 1 000 or we're gonna match your donation 1 000 uh but then like the fine print people pointed out like doesn't say anything that implies they would actually do that um it's just yeah like how is that a fundraiser is that yeah
Starting point is 00:55:25 like no no clue where that money was going to come from and there there's also like they just can't find a single instance of fraud like they i think they they found one in nevada that then got disproven like they can can't, there's so many, like in any national election, you're going to find at least one. Yeah, at least one. Like there's going to be plenty. And it's just not a statistically significant amount of fraud.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And they can't find anybody. That's why I liked how some of the secretaries of state were like, oh yeah, I'm sure you're going to find something. Like there always is, but it's never on this scale that you're like, oh God, this tipped an election. Unless it's a house race in North Carolina. The Georgia Secretary of State just announced that he's giving into the pressure. I mean, he is a Republican.
Starting point is 00:56:20 He is saying that they're going to do a by hand vote for vote recount of the whole state's presidential election so that's that's happening but i mean in unless there's some serious fuckery going on like that it's going to be the same the exact same thing uh because they were very careful actually it was 43 less so So what's going on? Yeah. Huh? 43 people. Oh, so you're not telling me there's not a whole conspiracy?
Starting point is 00:56:51 I mean, that's all they need. That's all they'll continue to use to try and give oxygen to this thing. But it's all vague allegations, never a single specific instance. never a a single specific instance uh and you you pointed out this postal worker example miles that i can't believe is real even even okay so like in pennsylvania right they were like we talked i don't know if we talked about on trends or we were just i may have just been saying this as an aside to jack about how i was watching one american news and they were like they had james o'keefe on all the project veritas people and they're like look we're gonna call this postal office in erie pennsylvania where this postal worker said they were post they were post dating or
Starting point is 00:57:34 backdating some of the ballots so they could be counted with the count and they called and like yeah i'm just calling about the ballots that were backdated to november thursday like they hung up and like oh my god did you see they hung up they knew they're busted they know they fucking know so all of that momentum came from this person named Richard Hopkins who works who does work for the postal service in Erie and he signed a sworn affidavit with allegations of this tampering of this fraud that they were backdating ballots so they could be counted in time. Ones that came in late, oh, hit them with the November 3rd stamp. That way we can get this shit cracking. Oh, postal, also I think said that postal workers were instructed to still pick up ballots after election day. And so this was a, you know, this was like a big claim. They were
Starting point is 00:58:20 all saying, look, this is, this is it. we got a whistleblower here so the postal service inspector general goes in and they have to investigate because they're saying what the fuck is going on here and they started asking this man richard hopkins what the fuck was going on after they were talking to him this man recanted his allegations and then when he when they're asking like well then why would you sign this if you're going to recant? Would not explain. Then he goes to the Project Veritas people and was like, oh, I'm recanting my recantation because I was bullied by investigators. And they're like, well, legally, you didn't say shit anymore. So you can say everything you like. You have to.
Starting point is 00:59:00 But this is this is the state of their you know manufacturing of fraud and to even go further down that road lieutenant governor of texas dan patrick yes the guy who was like your grandmother will fucking die for capitalism fuck covid your grandma needs to get out there and start working hoe like that man he said he is actually he's chumming the waters with a one million dollar prize uh but read the fine print if you can actually conjure up some material as he says this article saying uh the the lieutenant governor is backing trump's efforts uh to identify voter fraud by offering up to one million dollars from his campaign for anyone to come forward with evidence from anywhere in the country.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Patrick said he is offering the reward to, quote, incentivize, encourage, and reward people to come forward and report voter fraud, end quote. This is where it gets very Republican. Anyone who provides information that ultimately ends in an arrest and final conviction will be paid $25,000 minimum. Wow, so no one will actually get money. Very smart. Not a milli, but I like that. I like that. That's big.
Starting point is 01:00:13 I put Lex's badges on my Camry, so it looks baller energy. I respect the hustle, Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick. But yeah, they're now sending out, they have bribe money. A $1 million national prize money. A fucking lie? Yeah. Here's what I don't get.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Yeah. America is full of sports fans. Republicans are often sports fans. How do you not look at, even if you're watching OAN and you're watching Fox News, how do you not look at this and say, okay, this is being a sore loser. You don't go up to the Lakers and say, I'm going to really show you.
Starting point is 01:00:58 No, what would you say? You'd say, congrats on being the best. Thanks so much. You don't say, hey, if you heard anything about people cheating, let us know because I don't think the Lakers won fair and square. Clippers fans might say that. Yeah, Clippers fans might say that. What happened?
Starting point is 01:01:14 How did that swing happen? But yeah, it's true. But I think that's to the point Jack was making even with that stat. 80% of the people believe Joe Biden won. So there's definitely 20% that are fully in the darkness um and they are unwilling to say that and there are other reports too that says 70 of republicans though don't feel that the elections were fair so republicans are still kind of they're they're half like yeah joe biden won but he's probably dirty much in the same way that democrats were
Starting point is 01:01:43 looking at the 2016 election and being like was this fucking real what fucking haplock is this I get it but at the end of the day yeah you come around to the idea that it's like look he either they'll either prove it or they didn't but the reality is that this person's the president uh and then it's incumbent on you to organize your people to try and you know know, fucking win an election. But yeah, we're going into a new phase where like even who knows like what votes are, because every effort going to create so many false positives that then they can take you know months and months to investigate and it'll just always keep it out there this idea that there was fraud or that the election wasn't fair and that's really what they're trying to do that's the whole point of this like they know that they're not gonna uh overturn the
Starting point is 01:02:43 thing unless there's like a fucking actual armed uprising like they're not going to overturn the thing unless there's a fucking actual armed uprising. Trump is not going to be the president on January 20th, but they're trying to keep it so that they can be like, we never lost. We didn't lose a fair match, basically. Now, as patriots, we do have a duty to call these hotlines and send in prank tips right yeah just gum it up yeah the super cuts of people calling that first fraud line were and they're so those people are so frustrated who are like manning those phones or like it's
Starting point is 01:03:21 mostly nonsense but they do a good job of reeling you in for the first five minutes just to then be like, suck my ass. Like, ah, damn it. Damn it, it's another ass sucking. Damn it. No, they told me to suck ass again. Yeah, mark that.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Yeah, mark that in AS. I want to have empathy for those people working those jobs, but man, it's hard. It's like parking enforcement. It's hard. Yeah. Let's talk real quick about Britney Spears.
Starting point is 01:03:54 What's going on with Britney? This is just like such a... I don't like to use this phrase because I think it's overused, but this is Kafka-esque. This is like a complete mind fuck she is almost 40 her dad is in charge of her career and her life and she just tried to be like can i be in control of my life now as an adult and she's like not allowed to fire her dad like the lawyer is like she's just saying that your honor like so she can't get out so she's still allowed to fire her dad. The lawyer is like, she's just saying that, Your Honor. So she's still in her conservatorship.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Still in her conservatorship, yeah. The only thing they allowed her to do was add a financial, it's like a trust that is going to help oversee it because she doesn't feel like she can trust her dad to do the best things with her money, like the things that are in her interest with her money it's like straight out of the 1940s like i listened to um you must remember when this god you must remember this yeah and every one of those stories about like the hollywood starlets in the 20s and 30s and 40s and so tragically with them
Starting point is 01:05:05 like not in control of their life and the studios making all these decisions and i feel like we're gonna look at this britney spears thing in 20 years and be like that's tragic how was that happening how is that legal like yeah she had a mental breakdown at one point and maybe she will blow all of her money but that is her god-given that is her right yeah having made all of that money i i have not seen her dad perform uh but i i bet he's not as good a performer as her i bet fewer people would pay money to see him perform but he get but he's getting to control all this money. Some quotes from the hearing which was a rare...
Starting point is 01:05:48 This sort of thing has been going on for the 12 years that she's been in the conservatorship but we just got to witness this one or the media got to witness this one. But yeah, like you said, at a time, even Brittany acknowledges this was a good thing when I had my mental breakdown because they were able to make responsible decisions when I wasn't able to do that for myself.
Starting point is 01:06:21 But it's unheard of for a conservatorship to last this long. And her lawyer said, my client has informed me that she is afraid of her father. She will not perform again if her father is in charge of her career. And then her dad's lawyer, Vivian Lee Thorine, which Thorine sounds like a treatment. Sounds like a movie villain.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Yeah, exactly. Was just like... thor's shitty aunt yeah yeah exactly thorian thorian uh just it's it's so fucked so it began in 2008 when uh she was having serious mental struggles uh but the arrangements are normally limited to people with severely diminished ability to make decisions for themselves and there's just like no evidence that that is the case here yeah she's got a whole vibe on instagram she's i think more than capable at this point and like most people have been i think as most like people who even investigate or look deeper into this conservatorship it's not as simple as like, no, man, she needs to be under that.
Starting point is 01:07:29 It's like, no, dude, people are basically using her likeness and her fucking physical, her body to make money and do things like enter into business agreements she might not want to do. But again, she has no ability or power legally to determine those things for herself yeah and she could go on tour i mean not on tour because of covid but like she still is so relevant and has such a strong fan base like yeah it's crazy that that is then seen as not like mentally capable enough of being an adult yeah and it's not that she's not just not allowed to make decisions for herself about her own finances she's not even allowed to like know about the decisions that are made like that's one of the things she's fighting for is like her dad just fired her business manager and never told her about it and she's like could i like at least be told when like these major decisions are being
Starting point is 01:08:33 made and they're like nah they're like wait i'm making a fragrance they're like yeah you are i don't want to i don't care it's a conservatorship. Fuck that. Yeah. It's, ugh. And for all that, you know, her dad, and I hate to say this, he is not that innocent. And that's been my time. Wow. Wow. And we'll go out on that. Anna, it's been a pleasure having you. Where can people find you and follow you?
Starting point is 01:09:02 You can find me on Twitter at BadComics with an X by Anna with two Ns. And it's the same on Instagram. And yeah, those are the two places. I was like teeing up to say a third, but I'm not on TikTok. Aw. I am, but I have never posted a TikTok. And I think I have two followers. One of them being Danny Fernandez because we connected early on.
Starting point is 01:09:29 There you go. She was like, yeah, you should post. I was like, no, I'm not a TikToker. Are you kind of torn? Is there an internal conflict about the fact that you haven't posted yet? Do you have plans to post? I always think about it because Kim, the red dot, she's very good at TikTok
Starting point is 01:09:49 and just being on all the social media as a person who makes a webcomic. But I feel old. I look at TikTok and I'm like, this is beautiful. The shit people are doing on here intentionally and not intentionally is so perfect.
Starting point is 01:10:04 What could I possibly contribute and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying oh yeah um there is this can i say a tiktok i think it made the rounds yeah yeah on twitter there is this tiktok of a girl who is like there's this meme on tiktok where they play like this emotional music and you sing along to it but you act out something maybe you've seen it where um there's like the republicans pulling her one way and she's yeah blood on her face yeah yes and then oh, there's also the virus one. And then the Democrats pulling her this way, and there's blue on her face. And abortion pulling her this way.
Starting point is 01:10:55 And like, oh, but they're killing babies. And it's part of this larger brand of Christian TikTok. And I love it. I love it so much. I hope it never stops. I just want more of them. Yeah. It's amazing. It's like Christian rock was not as good as regular rock, but Christian TikTok is somehow better than all other forms of social media.
Starting point is 01:11:19 It's so good. Well, because the Christians love a production. Yes. So that's the thing. And they're not doing them now because of COVID. So they have to take that out somewhere. Because, I mean, they took the secular and made it sexy. You know what I mean? Oh, hell yeah. Rather, it's not secular.
Starting point is 01:11:38 But yeah, there is something about the production. I remember when I went to Lutheran school, you would have to do a fucking chapel performance about some shit in the Bible, and it was always way too much energy. And I was like, this is fucking wild. But I'm like, all right, cool. I guess we'll do Jesus serving up 5,000 people.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Yeah. It's beautiful art. Miles, where can people find you, and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey and also the other podcast, 420 Day Fiance. We're just talking 90 Day Fiance. A tweet that I like from Ray Sani.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Ray Sani, R-A-E-S-A-N-I. Just tweeting, Hunter Biden is fucking hot, S-M-E-S-A-N-N-I Just tweeting Hunter Biden is fucking hot S-M-H Not wrong Not wrong I felt something looking at that photo Of him like from a you know Yeah I think we all did
Starting point is 01:12:37 Looking the Dick pic Yeah I think it was part of it Yeah there was a dick in the pic but that wasn't the only thing that made it attractive for sure some tweets I've been enjoying Audrey Farnsworth tweeted
Starting point is 01:12:54 just because a lot of his friends have wings doesn't mean Godzilla wants them he is glad with who he is those guys are on different journeys and Blair Saki tweeted up to my age limit to 42 on hinge Those guys are on different journeys. And then Blair Saki tweeted, up to my age limit to 42 on Hinge, and now these men message me at 6 a.m.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Quote, hello, Blair, how are you? Question mark. Dash Tim. Oh, my God. Oh, wow. I want to get on Hinge just for that. Hello, wow. I want to get a hint just for that. Hello, Blair. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
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Starting point is 01:13:58 And this time I go, get up out my face. And that's how I feel. Again, I'm just a message to the media, these pundits these other uh people were trying to heal the fucking divide you don't heal it by inviting the perpetrators to the table again you heal by healing the wounded thank you that has been my ted talk uh and it's called face because the whole there's you know good laid-back hip-hop vibe uh but you just listen to
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