The Daily Zeitgeist - Here Comes The Swamp, Jake Paul = GOAT? 12.2.20

Episode Date: December 2, 2020

In episode 770, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Grown Local co-host Billy Wayne Davis to discuss Joe Biden's cabinet members, Trump trying to pardon himself, Joe DiGenova threatening Chris K...rebs, Jake Paul wanting to fight Conor McGregor, and more!FOOTNOTES: The Problem With Putting a BlackRock Alum in Charge of Greening the Economy Bernie Sanders: 'Enormously insulting' if Biden ignores progressives in his administration Bernie Sanders' rise forces media to reckon with how to cover him Sean Hannity Tells Sidney Powell Trump ‘Needs to Pardon His Whole Family and Himself’ Before Leaving Office in January Rudy Giuliani discussed with Trump the possibility of receiving a preemptive pardon, sources say After Trump Att’y Calls For His Death, Former DHS Official Warns That He Has Good Lawyers JAKE PAUL I'M IN TALKS WITH CONOR MCGREGOR'S CAMP ... 'I'm Gonna F**K Him Up' WATCH: Splash Brothers - Patiently Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:37 My name is Jack O'Brien, aka F-Zero Brian, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! It's Mr. Miles Gray. And guess what, folks? He does not have an AKA today. So he's just going to be your boy, Kusama. I'm looking at the Discord. Some of these are so good.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I'm not lying to y'all. I have to, like like rehearse them to do them the justice of the time y'all clearly put into the lyrics so i will be back with the fire aka festival but thank you for having me yeah yeah hey miles thrilled to have you thanks so much and we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on mount zeitmore he is the hilarious, the talented Billy Wayne Davis! Hey, hey, hey. Air horns, air horns, air horns, air horns. Air horns, air horns. Air horns. What's good, man?
Starting point is 00:03:32 It's not easy to say three times, you guys. Yeah. It's better to just go... You and I are both. I think everything's good, right? Everything's better. Yeah. It's better.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Somewhat. The sky's clear. It feels like a moment it feels like you when your team gets momentum yeah although the analysts will tell us that there is no such thing as momentum and that is just a narrative device we've created as sports fans like love languages i've played sports and it exists absolutely to be in the zone people say moment in-game momentum isn't real yeah that's what like sabermetrics people say like when they look at uh teams when they're going on a run they're like actually uh that's just like oh they're just saying like that's a concentration of results occurring at once.
Starting point is 00:04:26 It's like flipping a coin and it turning up heads 10 times in a row. You're like, wow, heads really has momentum. But it's actually just having a very limited experience with sports. And Bill, you definitely have more than me. But there are times when the hoop seems like enormous and you like can't miss and then there are times when uh you can't hit the broad side of a barn as it's why the it's why con men can can have a career it's because you can sway fucking people's emotions. And if you don't think a large group of people all cheering for one thing to happen can't steer that consciously in a mode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And nerds are going to be like, well, actually, it's just numbers. And I've never played sports before or experienced that. So I want to explain it by numbers. And you're like, you go fuck yourself. It seems like an aggressive way to explain something, a way that you could just be like, sure. To be unequivocal, you could be like, yeah, momentum or whatever. But to be like, it's not momentum is a little like, yo, relax.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Because, yes, to Billy's point, whether it's people cheering for you or shit cheering against you those are fucking motivations for people to just go out of body and i don't think some of these great athletes like michael jordan's not gonna be like no man it was just a concentration of uh you know fair results for me every shot was had a 55 chance of going in because that's what i shoot statistically and that's just how great great concentration of results in that moment no this motherfucker is out here being like oh i took that shit personally yeah and then this uncle jordan's like yeah the valet was wearing a calves hat didn't make eye contact with me long enough and that's all i needed that's all i needed i don't like when he says that right it's the whole reason we play games
Starting point is 00:06:27 yeah that little thing that even you or that what if you want to break it down even further to that god particle that they always talk about in science yeah we spent all that money on on that particle accelerator it's that little thing that we're still like that part i don't know about that part yeah like that's what we're talking about when we talk about those little moments and why some people react to certain moments and some don't and like or even like whether it's them being like well you know they got good results statistically there's momentum the other way too as like on on if you're defending you know if you're in a sport where you're in a defensive posture or whatever you completely fuck up and yeah it seems like they're doing better
Starting point is 00:07:09 because your defense is shit too so it's like what the i don't know whatever i'm getting too hopped up on my own emotions because arsenal is doing terribly but at least the lakers are looking strong as fuck and off yeah yeah i mean they didn't like i didn't like kobe bryant and until recently and i really looked at his career because the media gave us no choice but i also realized like oh he wanted me to not like him and that makes me like him now because i was like that's he's like that was his thing and then you just notice he's just like killing teams left and right and you're like that's pretty fucking cool he was just not on my team so fuck that guy but now i get it he was so committed to killing teams that even at the end of his career he was killing the lakers uh wow a
Starting point is 00:07:55 member of their team wow i mean they shouldn't have asked that that's that's a tough one of what what do we what should we have done with kobe bry. But that's a whole other podcast. Sorry, Lakers fans. Sorry, Sophie. All right, let's tell the listeners a couple of things. I'm a Blazers fan. I don't know what you're talking about. We're just up there having fun. Yeah, yeah. Love of the game.
Starting point is 00:08:14 But that was one of the last times that it seemed like somebody was just in the zone to a degree that almost seemed superhuman was Dame Lillard when he was knocking down shots from like half court. That was unbelievable uh all right we're gonna talk about trump pardoning himself others uh we're gonna talk about the swamp because biden is putting together his cabinet and yeah there's gonna be here comes the swamp i was listening to that album this weekend. Great album. Abbey Road. I don't know if you've heard of these people, the Beatles, but I keep referencing
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Starting point is 00:09:06 So that's a sign of a thriving democracy. There's not a lot of wiggle room when you just come out. Now, what did you mean by kill? Yeah. We'll talk about Kristi Noem's performance when it comes to COVID. We'll talk about Gordon Ramsay. We'll talk about Jake Paul. Oh, man, I hope we don't get to those last two.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I hope we don't. Yeah, yeah. We'll get there. All of that, plenty more. But first, Billy, we'd like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are mattresses i've been looking up trying to find the best deal for a mattress also i don't think black friday is a good time or cyber monday is a good time to buy anything because i don't know what anything ever cost right there's no
Starting point is 00:10:03 baseline for prices anymore. And then they're just saying, like, this is 100% off. And you're like, maybe. I don't know. Where did it start from? It's still $45. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:14 That and, like, I don't know if one's better than the other. Like, it's all blending together. It's really strange. Because even throughout the lockdown, so many of these like outlets or shopping places have had all kinds of ridiculous sales to offset the lack of like foot traffic into their physical stores. So it's like, I've complete,
Starting point is 00:10:34 like, I felt like there were always deals on shit because of the lockdown that yeah. Like the cyber Monday thing was almost moot to me. I was like, I don't even, I don't know. Like,
Starting point is 00:10:43 I feel like nothing looks cheaper than it ever has. feel like it's everything's looked cheap somewhat you're buying like a 40 80 inch tv yeah they they have hyper inflation sundays where they where they uh triple the price and then it always looks like a deal on monday right yeah and then all the cheap tvs if you look they have a listening device in them and you're like, well, that's why they're cheap. Yeah. You're the product.
Starting point is 00:11:10 That makes me angry. That's just the new club card is what that is. Right. But I think the mattress thing is frustrating because it's like some of them are really expensive
Starting point is 00:11:21 and some of them aren't. And I don't know why. They're different different you can't tell and then i mentioned it online and you know people are like hey this one or this one and then people are like hey don't get the ones that come rolled up because then something happens uh right like yeah nothing is clear anymore pops out of the box and scares you. Well, it's just like, yeah, you'd be on a Tuesday, they get a little over, and then on a Wednesday, and you're like, man, I don't.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Don't get them wet. Do not get them wet. Yeah, especially not after midnight. Yeah, don't feed it either. It is that. I think it's just a thing where I should ask specific questions instead of vague questions, because people do answer, they take it personal, too.
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Starting point is 00:12:24 What is something you think is underrated, Billy? Taking an L. I think that's underrated. Every time, Billy, it's always some version of this. I love it because it's such a point that always has to be driven home of, you can be wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It's okay to be wrong. And also, in this one, you gotta take L's too baby just simple wisdom just take it just it who inspired this take you seeing something you feeling something no i think it's well i mean there's an overall theme for sure where some people aren't taking some emails like, but I just think overall it's a weird quirk that some people have where it's like, yo, you're going to learn more if you accept that you've lost this and you'll
Starting point is 00:13:17 probably win more if you accept this later. Yeah. So it's just a weird text that I see see we're just like you're gonna have to be like like i'm i remember playing i think the metaphor is sports too was like i wouldn't my dad always drove home like you don't stop playing until it's done even if you know you've lost because you don't know what you're gonna you know you're not you don't go out and do dumb shit but you still compete because you're still to, you know, you're not, you don't go out and do dumb shit, but you still compete because you're still going to learn stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah, and you might get a concentration of favorable results, statistically speaking, in the fourth quarter. You never know. Yeah, or somebody's watching, you know, or somebody's watching you from another level and they're like, that kid didn't quit. It's just those little things where you're just like,
Starting point is 00:14:03 I think, you know know in my 20s i fought a lot of conventional wisdom and stuff that had been thank god just hammered into me over my youth that in my 30s that acceptance came back out right which i'm which i'm glad was in there to begin with yeah because it wasn't such a journey to get there. It's funny too, like with people who, you know, have personalities where they just cannot admit like a deficiency within themselves, like their ego just does not allow that to be a reality
Starting point is 00:14:37 in which they will either humble themselves before someone else who has given them a counterpoint that is correct or whatever. Like you also see people also engage in activities where there is mistake-based knowledge being like derived you know like i you know people who play video games you can't beat a certain level you don't just be like well fuck this like it's done you're gonna lose and then you're like okay fuck so i need to go duck over here next time because of that and then i'll pop up clap them over there throw a grenade you start putting shit together but if you're denying yourself
Starting point is 00:15:09 that information you are going to just continue it that's what's like just see the lot like fundamentally the the loss has all of the wisdom that you need contained every every bit that you're looking for yeah walk truly from yeah yeah i'm not good at this you're like no you're looking for, you just walk away from. I'm not good at this. You're like, no, you're not. But you could be. You're also not good at being patient with yourself, too. It's very clear. And I think that's the other thing, too.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I've learned a lot from accepting when I'm wrong, when I'm acting like there's a deficiency and maybe some of my patterns of behavior and things like that. Having that time to even just look at it go fuck i can change that also helps me like accept myself much easier as a human being like when you're in a state where you're like fuck that i don't make mistakes whatever you will also have a very hard time accepting yourself because you're too caught up in this idea of perfection whatever just fucking Just fucking take the L's, baby, and just love yourself. Take them. I bet Nate Robinson's taking, he seems like he's taking an L pretty good right now.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah. Yeah. And he'll probably be like, you know what? What did I learn there? I'm 35. I don't need to be fighting 23-year-olds who are just maniacally lifting weights all day and only on their vision board have pictures of them tearing my head off. And I probably don't need to prove myself
Starting point is 00:16:28 like that anymore. Also, Jake Paul was a D1 wrestler, was something I just learned. Yes. And also, because you play basketball doesn't mean you can take a fucking punch. Those are two different things.
Starting point is 00:16:44 But he's got that bentley logo on his throat it does not matter uh all right well that is that is a that is that's like having that's like having soft hands or a good arm right that is something you're born with where if you have a jaw like that that's you can take a punch or you can't and he didn't have a he had a glass jaw and i feel like someone in his corner probably noticed that and still let him do that yeah i mean at the end of the day it's a check yeah that was my first thought was like someone knew that he uh-oh people are talking about like j about Jake Paul doing another fight. I think this should be Nate Robinson's new lane is just getting knocked out by different celebrities.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Like Homer? Who next? Sean Spicer knocks him out? Yeah, just getting destroyed. No, I want him to knock Sean out. The most hateful humans. UFC fighter that wants to fight Jake Paul.ul oh yeah we'll get to that i do think yeah it's like this weird version of meet me at the ballpark after school yeah where they've
Starting point is 00:17:57 monetized this weird celebrities being like i'll fight you and you're like what is happening yeah it is slowly becoming like the claymation show celebrity death match from like the early aughts on MTV. That was like, it's like, yeah, right. Jake Paul versus Nate Robinson. Like, that sounds like a sketch. Like, what the fuck is this? And it's just people,
Starting point is 00:18:19 it's our entire culture becoming middle school again. Or it's just fight, fight, like you said, Billy Wayne. Right. Yeah. But Snoop Dogg's there, and I would go to an after-school fight if Snoop Dogg's rapping. I would be like, I'm going to go see Kevin and Steve knock each other out.
Starting point is 00:18:37 This is going to be great. Our inability to figure out what skills translate between things is one of my favorite like topics to think about. Cause nobody like really studies that, but like the fact that if we had known that Jake Paul was a D one combat sport, like athlete and he was fighting somebody who was a basketball player and a
Starting point is 00:19:01 football player, like, yeah, those, one of those skills translates to to fighting and the other does not or you know i always talk about the directors the actors who make better directors are always like the just like handsome guys who figured out how to be movie stars as opposed to like the real actorly actors like john tortro or whatever it's always like the dudes who just like know how to appear in
Starting point is 00:19:26 a shot um is the thing that translates I don't know I'm taking shots at Turturro's directing huh or or Robert De Niro or yeah yeah I think De Niro's movie uh that he directed was like people were like this is really boring because like he's counting on the people to be able to do more with their performances than he's like, alright, now be me. Now do an incredible performance. I don't know, that's what
Starting point is 00:19:56 Marty Scorsese used to say to me, so I don't know why this isn't working. They talked about Ted Williams used to teach people how to hit, and he would just say the craziest shit you've ever heard because he was the best hitter that ever lived. People would be like, I don't know what he's talking about. They're like, you've got to put a little pine tar at the top of your butt crack
Starting point is 00:20:18 before you step in the batter's box. You can see the stitches when the ball's coming at you. It's just crazy because his hand-eye coordination was unbelievable. So people were just like, what the fuck is he talking about? That doesn't apply to me. Yeah. And I had a hidden coach. He wrote a book, and one of our hidden coaches was like,
Starting point is 00:20:36 keep in mind, that dude could do a lot of stuff that most humans couldn't, so keep that in mind when you read that book. Actually, I don't even know why I recommended this. Okay, thank you, because chapter four makes no sense at all. Chapter four is called Ted Time. It says when the ball is released from the pitcher's hand, enter Ted Time so you can then gain control of space and time. I don't know how to do this, coach.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Keep swinging them, Billy. Keep swinging them. Keep swinging them, man. Chapter five talks about being the best fighter pilot. What is this? Fighter pilot. Being a fighter pilot at the top of your class in a war is a good practice for your hand-eye coordination. And that guy's a good pilot.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah, that's Ted Williams. What? Yeah. Also, try and get some BP in on the moon. You know, the different levels of gravity will really help your game when people are throwing off-speed pitches at you. It's funny, the book my kids are obsessed with
Starting point is 00:21:32 right now is I Am Neil Armstrong, and it's the story of, like, Neil Armstrong, but it literally hammers home the points that we're talking about, like, being willing to take an L, like, failing over and over again, and then weird ways that people underrate the fact that he was a great engineer
Starting point is 00:21:51 and had to engineer all this shit on the fly. Anyways, so check out that book. I think he's kind of bitter about that shit, too. He's like, yeah, I went to the moon, but I had to MacGyver a bunch of shit before there was a MacGyver. Yeah, yeah. Everyone's like, hey, Neil, I went to the moon, but you know, like I had to MacGyver a bunch of shit before there was a MacGyver. So yeah, yeah. You're like, everyone's like, hey, Neil, this kid's book. No, man, call it Neil Armstrong, the fucking NASA maintenance guy who had to figure it out before all of his fucking buddies died up there in the cold vacuum of space.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I don't know, man. There is a page that is like is about the memorial to all the people who died in the space race and my son's always like what what is that page why is that why are you like i i skip that part a little bit because right right he's obsessed with death like any idea of death that like like there's a mr rogers book where like the fish is floating upside down and he just clings to that and rereads that page over and over again. Because, yeah, he's very... He just asked me the other day why dinosaurs aren't here anymore.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And why can't they come back? Well, the Republicans. Right, exactly. He's like, what's about Ronald Reagan real quick? Billy Wayne, what is something you think is overrated? Man, it seems trite but reality television seems overrated i know miles i see the floor i know i know who i don't care it's people's opinion i don't if i gave a fuck if i gave a fuck about what other people thought i wouldn't be me uh but no go i
Starting point is 00:23:27 think it is in in many aspects but i think for me it's overrated because it's not peaceful to me that's something i've noticed i've found myself turning off certain shows because the conflict is so intense that I'm not. Sometimes there's like, oh, this is a dumpster fire I can revel in. Other times I'm like. I understand that some of it you're like this is slow motion and amazing. Yeah, I'm loving it. Other ones are just like people screaming and shouting at each other for no reason.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I'm like, look, I have repressed memories from childhood i can revisit if i want to like hear like wild ass screaming competitions but like yeah there are moments where i've found like this is kind of fucking my energy like it's raising my blood pressure yeah it's just like i i'll turn certain things off and like i'm just like i can't it's not good right now it's not good right now. It's not funny. What did you watch? Real Housewives of Salt Lake City? No, that one actually, that's good. That one's great. Love it. Those are my vegetables.
Starting point is 00:24:32 That one's something, yeah, my wife turned that one on a couple weeks ago, and I was like, I just can't do, and then the first lady talks, and I was like, huh, okay, huh, I'm going to. All right. I'll check this out. As someone that enjoys sociology psychology and whatever's wrong with these people that was my first way of rationalizing i was watching uh reality tv to like my other friends in college when i was like it's actually like a really good
Starting point is 00:24:58 case study on like human behavior and i'm just like look bro i don't care if it's heavily produced like half my friends are shooting this shit and i know like how bunk it is but i just love the fucking messes man i don't know the bachelorette is that one's i can get into that sometimes because of the weird psychological shit they're doing to them right right well because that's more of like a game show than like a, like a sort of interactions of like real couples. It's like, it's sadistic. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I think you need to embrace the fact that you're a reality show. You can't like try and just like pretend there's not a camera there. And that like, this is just how these people behave. Like that's what the bachelorette and bachelor is like specifically like a setup where things are being set up for them and like that's embraced whereas anything i don't know well they're being manipulated too right by like like openly sleep deprivation and alcohol and the alcohol, I think, is the most underrated thing.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I have a friend of mine, if y'all remember, the Fifth Wheel and Elimidate from back in the day. He used to shoot those. Yeah, Elimidate, which, my God, I was watching on YouTube old clips of that. The banter on those dates is so fucked up and toxic from like 2004 to where there was like a you know eliminate is like a man or a woman there's like quarters court people trying to court them and
Starting point is 00:26:30 they have to slowly eliminate them and they end up with one single person but when it's a woman is the focal point and it's dudes they just end up like piling on each other and being so toxic and one this woman was like i just read this article that like like men like can start drinking like women's drinks or like girly drinks. Like, what do you guys think? Like, would you ever drink like a girly drink at a bar? And the conversation is like, this is so 20 years ago. Like, it's so fucking amazing. Anyway, all that to say is alcohol is like from before the camera even starts rolling.
Starting point is 00:26:59 The producers are like, what do you need, man? What you want? Your red cup is empty. What do you need? What do you want? What do you how? How quickly? How cold? How much? Yeah. So yeah so they gotta they gotta grease the wheels
Starting point is 00:27:09 for and then they keep them and then they drink and then they take it away so they come down but they're still filming and then they get and instead of going to bed like you're supposed to do when you pour poison in your mouth all night you're not supposed to keep going the next day and then you have to make you're also having to make these competitive decisions and i think that's that one's that one's not overrated to me i think the ones where they yell and the like you said the conflict ones where they've just amped it up to where you're like i don't these are two animals in a cage that shouldn't be in a cage together right i don't like this like the back of my neck is is activated like that like the my alien brain is like you gotta get out of here this is bad we
Starting point is 00:27:55 don't like this planet yeah all reality tv is secretly a competition show called america's most charismatic and energetic alcoholic uh that is my favorite part of the bachelor right is when they put all those dudes yeah have the the the angles for faces yeah yeah right it was like cinder block jawlines well and they're all from like lincoln nebraska and pierre south dakota and it's like the only angled dude there. And then they're all in the same room for the first time with a bunch of dudes that look like them. And they're like, well, my move is usually just stand here. And then they're all looking around like, that's my move too.
Starting point is 00:28:38 So we're going to have to do. And you're like, yeah, do stuff. Do stuff. Give them booze. I can't just stand. I can. There's other. No, Mom, I can't just stand here. There's other. No, Mom, there's three other Jakes here.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It's not even that. I'm the only Jake. Fuck. Literally, their name is Jake. My middle name's Kyle. Is that different enough? Well, that'll actually confuse people between Kyle T and Kyle f that are our other contestants so you can either be jake z or kyle three i'm jake i'm jake kyle the power of both i'm an entrepreneur unprecedented
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Starting point is 00:33:20 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. Let's actually kick it off with what's happening in the Biden administration. Since we've kind of, you know. Let's kick it off, huh? Let's just hop in the fan boat real quick and let's go down to the swamp. Down to the booskios.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Yeah, baby. Can we get some food first if we're going to Louisiana? Yeah, absolutely. Let's go to Parkway and get a couple po' boys real quick, and then we'll go down to Busquets. And I think if we're going into that swamp, we need to get a guide like Mana man afford or somebody that knows what to do right now we'll just kind of we'll just fuck around and find out so biden i mean the the
Starting point is 00:34:14 conversation uh when the democratic party was trying to get people on board with the biden ticket was that you know he is going to be the most progressive uh president and you know he has the most progressive platform and his cabinet he's gonna bring in elizabeth warren and bernie sanders and uh it's just gonna be a coalition of all the people the democrats give a shit about um and now it seems like who said who said all that that seemed like it was when where they were headed early on when i think when they were trying to get progressive yeah when the nomination was wrapped up oh yeah okay we're gonna listen to them i mean absolutely when they were when they were lying to get what they wanted yeah absolutely okay okay that part okay i was when they're like
Starting point is 00:35:04 yeah you know that people had better ideas than me like without a shadow of a doubt don't worry i'm gonna talk to them about on the ideas stuff for sure we're gonna need your power but you keep your ideas that's what yeah yeah no just need the bodies not the ideas but now that he is starting to unveil cabinet nominees and other appointments to his administration. And this is stuff I should say up front I find aggressively boring, but I found it boring when Trump was doing it too, because I'm not like a politics or government, like a person who has... Not a wonk. But yeah, it seems like they have gone in the very predictable direction of just basically trying to be as centrist as possible.
Starting point is 00:35:49 And more than that, just fully bear hugging the corporate class, too, in most positions. And, you know, I think a lot of the talk has been about like the comms office and how it's all women in there for the first time or Janet Yellen possibly becoming secretary of Treasury and this and the other. But there's like other appointments, too, right? Like who's his tour, his economic advisors, who's heading up the National Economic Council? And you look at that and say, oh, this name's floating around, John Deese. Oh, wait, John Deese. So this is John. He's going to be a pretty disappointment. I mean, to be Biden's main economic advisor, someone who is probably essentially going to be in charge of greening the economy to get people back to work.
Starting point is 00:36:32 That's one of the things that the Biden campaign was saying, you know, like this is how we're going to build back better, y'all. And the problem is John Deese, although he is an Obama alum alum and things like that the man's been at black rock for the past couple years and if you don't know what black rock is they are the world's largest asset manager they control like the black keys in most death it is no no absolutely not it's not that wonderful collab uh this is just a straight up they control like eight trillion dollars worth of assets nearly uh and they you know that might be the black keys that might be the black and you know having someone coming from the world's largest the largest asset manager i think most of the time when trump was making appointees the media was very quick to point out who are these people look at these
Starting point is 00:37:21 swamp creatures well john deese i would say coming from black rock that's a hell of a fucking swamp to emerge from and i don't want to say that every person who goes into the private sector and comes back the revolving door or whatever is a bad you know appointee but i haven't seen appointments made from like non-profits or other groups where people are doing like this real hard thinking about how to solve these problems. And just looking at BlackRock's like past, you know, MO on the environment just shows you how, you know, quote unquote, serious they are about the issue of like tackling climate change or the Green New Deal. They said before the last World Economic Forum in Davos, BlackRock, quote, pledged that their actively managed funds wouldn't invest in companies that do more than 25% of their business in coal. And you're like, oh shit. Okay. That, that sounds good. Like 25%
Starting point is 00:38:11 of their business, but here's the deal. Coal is fucking dying. No person who has any kind of mind for investment is going to put their money in a dying industry. So like, it's kind of sure, but like, that's a nice policy to have, but it doesn't but like that's a nice policy to have but it doesn't seem like that's a real thing that's going to affect your business in the like the name of doing what's right for the earth and also like these passive funds that um 90 invest in reebok you can't yeah right 90 of their their business like comes in these forms of these passive funds and those aren't even subjected to these like sustainability screens that they keep talking about so it's a lot of fucking vaporware which again you would expect because the obama administration did a hell of a job too
Starting point is 00:38:52 when they were like hey man all of the above when it comes to this climate change shit uh fuel mix all of the above that is such horseshit all of the above means look we've we're basically gonna handhold some investors who were over leveraged in dying industries because we're not willing to actually take away these fucked up forms of energy that are polluting our earth. And this guy, John Deese, champion of the all of the above approach for fucking the earth, our whole idea of trying to curb the climate change is getting rid of fossil fuels. And this guy comes from a company whose entire career, the ethos of companies like BlackRock and sending their underlings out to serve in government is to take away the restrictions to investment. You know what I mean? That's like what these people do. They're not here to actually restrict things or prevent things from happening. They would be like, no, we're basically capitalist Greece to have the shit flying. Anything that slows down is anathema to them. Delaware has always been it's just a little hideout is what that is. Little baby Cayman Islands. And that's where
Starting point is 00:40:09 our president-elect that's who he's been representing in the Senate his whole career. So I mean I think it was clear that's who Obama that's why Obama chose him for vice president and I think that was clear that's who Obama, that's why Obama chose him for vice president.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And I think that's why big business was okay with him running for the Democratic thing. I think that's why. I mean, it's very clear. I think now we just assume anybody he puts in there is bullshit for the next four years and we do what the republicans did for eight years which is you just push push push push push to the left and i'm not i'm not a crazy leftist but this is where our system's at it's so far right we have to push left for the next fucking 40 or 50 years. Right. With regards to the environment, we're supposedly and this is what Biden's like party line on it has been, is that we're in an existential crisis.
Starting point is 00:41:15 And the answer that even that the Democrats have been in favor of is basically we grow the economy while fighting climate change it's economic growth and uh battling climate change at the same time and that has proven not to be enough and like that's a broad question that like needs to be specifically we just tax all these fucking trillionaires right and that's the thing that they- And then create a new deal where it gives everybody jobs to make, to save our earth. We already did it. We already did it once.
Starting point is 00:41:52 We already did it. I live in a community, that's where I grew up, that was created. It's called Homestead in Crossville, Tennessee in Cumberland County. Roosevelt's wife came there and spoke
Starting point is 00:42:03 because it was part of the new deal. Two of my grandparents live in homestead houses that were built by that they're still fucking around we already did it let's do it again right i come from where it happened also all that this is also why i believe that 9-11 wasn't inside a job because people do stuff because of it because i'm also grew up 20 miles from fucking oak ridge tennessee that wasn't a town in 1940 and then was in 1941 and then i knew people they didn't know what the fuck they were doing so yeah i believe that the government could do some fucked up shit too that was a that was a town that they like basically built as a military like installation right yep it's where it's like a
Starting point is 00:42:45 secret yeah yeah yeah i mean and the other thing that like people being part of the obama administration i think there's probably like for i can speak for myself uh there's just a positive glow around obama because he was contrasted with like somebody who was literally just trying to dismantle uh things openly for uh anybody who was not a rich business person so we have this positive glow for obama but like the fact that this dude is an obama administration alum uh rama manual is somebody who's being like kicked around as like a member. Yeah. Like that's really not a good thing. Like we need to be moving far left from where the Obama administration was on climate, on social justice, on, you know, like the inequality. We've got to put limits on the power ghouls. You can't just be power ghouling around all the the time, just in and out of the halls of power.
Starting point is 00:43:46 It's just historically, we've got to get rid of those type players. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So these are all indications that we're not headed for what people were hoping Biden would be, which is like the new FDR. Well, you know, if you watch MSNBC,
Starting point is 00:44:03 they're going to be like, well, look at some of the other people. He's pointing to some of these economic positions like the janet yellens and other people it's like no they're there for like more like equity and like working people and things like that i'm like well i'll believe that shit when i see it because based on every the momentum or the concentration of favorable results that have occurred on the democratic side they don't give a fuck about this stuff and that's why we were holding our noses being like well fuck we just need to unburden ourselves of the distraction of having trump and trying to figure out what the fuck to do with this person now and yeah to your point like the obama administration was all about having as smooth a partnership between the private
Starting point is 00:44:40 sector and the public sector as possible like that that was really like, and even to Billy's point, yes, having Joe Biden there is clearly an olive branch to the, to the private sector being like, yeah, you remember him, the dude who's fucking caping for you all these years. That's my number two.
Starting point is 00:44:55 So go through him and we'll figure something out. And I will still say all of the above, uh, while continuing to completely destroy the environment because, uh, sort of beholden to these fossil fuel industries. And now we have President Amtrak girly sniffer. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:12 President Amtrak. But I mean, I'm at a point where when the stock market reacts really positively to something, I think it's probably not good for the long-term health of the country. And the fact that clarifying that Biden will be the president has caused the stock market value to go higher than it's ever gone before suggests to me that there is an expectation that all of the corporations who are insulated from day-to-day American economic conditions feel good and feel like they're going to be able to uphold the status quo. And that's a really bad sign. Yeah. Well, I think we have to realize too, is we have to, I mean, as fucked up as it is, this year has helped a lot of people be more engaged
Starting point is 00:45:59 and more connected to what the stakes are in terms of how leadership functions in this country and status quo is fucking death status quo is fucking barbaric it's fucking violent it's chaos and it has no fucking place in a world that i think most of us are trying to envision which is something that feels somewhat more equitable and safer for all like every single living person that they have basic rights and i think you know part of this obama be like oh man the obama thing is essentially i can go back to the level of engagement i had in politics when obama was president because i probably have a salary job and that's fine and i live in an area where most people also have the same living conditions and we don't talk much about the strife that's out there but
Starting point is 00:46:45 it's there and for all the talk of like how great the economy is doing like look at the footage of all the people lining up for food on thanksgiving you know and we want to still do this rah rah americans america's number one shit we're leaving our fucking people behind and to to to start hitting the brakes on the kinds of progress and the ideals that we're going to be fighting for just because Joe Biden is fucking president is an absolute betrayal to the people who need protection and help for us to move in solidarity with each other. So it's really just, you know, I really implore the listeners to like the shit is not. We said this even on the election day, matter who wins shit is not done we're not done we're not fucking done I think as a show like personally
Starting point is 00:47:34 I feel more energized because what we're saying like before a lot of our criticisms of the administration and what was happening in politics were at least like partially being echoed by what was happening in politics were at least like partially being echoed by what was happening in the mainstream media there's now going to be kind of a complete disconnect between you know the the perspective of our show and what we think is actually good
Starting point is 00:47:58 for people and the mainstream media like like there would have been during the obama administration like the there is actively an effort by the mainstream media to keep the status quo unless they somehow change unless they react to this waking up of of the populist during the trump administration and start moving their politics towards the left and you know accepting that there's growth but it's not going to happen because well it'll happen it'll happen if if enough people uh change their buying habits and aggressively that's what i mean but if if and then if they change their buying habits and and their activity in in a drastic, sharp way because it's the same people that own everything,
Starting point is 00:48:49 own the food and all the bullshit, own the fucking media companies now, and they're all unregulated. Right. That's why they poke, poke, poke, poke, poke and give us just enough information. This is why these shows are important that's right it was also made me laugh when you guys got your first coke ad when you went to i
Starting point is 00:49:12 heart it was like right so i was so yeah i was so curious when that would and you guys some of y'all were like i can't believe that happened i'm like that was very clear those coke motherfuckers knew exactly when that when y'all dropped they were like put an ad right there here's an extra five thousand dollars put an ad right there oh you flatter us that we're on their radar if you don't think you guys are on their radar you're silly that there's you don't rule the world without having a good ass radar right that's well have you seen i've been to their i think my thing with coke is like they used to they've embraced the villain because i go to wichita every couple years and their headquarters
Starting point is 00:49:54 now looks like something out of a comic book it's like the fucking death stars get near it it's a black mirrored building. It's hilarious. And I know people from there, and they're like, it used to be just this mom and pop-up. I mean, they had a bazillion dollars, but it was just like, you know. And now they're like, they've since done this. And I was like, they've embraced it.
Starting point is 00:50:22 It's like the Borg cube or whatever that ship was in Star Trek that the Borgs were fucking flying around. I couldn't stop laughing when I was driving around it because I was like this is i gotta just tip my hat i ain't mad at him this is hilarious because they're just like yeah we're bad guys what y'all gonna do and you're like i don't think we can do anything that's the origin of us saying fuck the coke brothers and coke industries at the top of the show was that uh for people who haven't been listening that long a coke industries ad appeared on not like read by miles and i but just like a network wide coke brothers coke industries ad appeared on our uh podcast and so for a year straight we started the show off saying fuck coke industries and fuck the coke brothers uh just you know so and then one of them died and then out of respect we were like you know what dude yeah i just
Starting point is 00:51:10 it's just a lot of people were also like coke industry is right like coca-cola yeah fuck them i'm like uh kind of but no yeah sure i mean they're also siphoning all the water out of the earth. So, yeah. Yeah. And the corn. They're union busters with some blood on their hands in Latin America, too. Coke bottling plants. I mean, I think that's the thing. A lot of when you look at the trade advisors that Biden has, they all do have blood on their hands from literal union busting. So, yeah, that might be interesting.
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Starting point is 00:56:36 You can't flush one down the toilet. You have to smash it and then flush it. Yeah, you got to break it up with chopsticks. Oh, God. And then flush it. You got to gotta break it up with chopsticks. Oh, God. And then flush it. Yeah, you gotta fuck those things. I feel like we're having some really specific conversations about plumbing practices. Yeah, talking about somebody who
Starting point is 00:56:53 grew up in a Japanese house and took shits that were too big for my little toilet. Anyway, Hannity wants Trump to pardon himself. Cockroaches, but he's got a whole team of them. Yeah. And did we ever figure out where like there there's no uh constitutional precedent for somebody just saying like i'm pardoned i'm on base you can't tag me no take backs like that's not that's not how presidential pardons work right you can't pardon this
Starting point is 00:57:25 position to put such a motherfucker in charge there that he could have to i it's one of those i think everyone came to the monk on the thing and the monk goes he just lights a cigarette you didn't even know he smoked huh shit okay yeah maybe we just go get him now I don't know the yeah because I mean wouldn't he have to pardon himself for something or
Starting point is 00:57:57 can you just preemptively be like olly olly oxen free I didn't do anything that you're going to say I did yeah I don't know I mean I think they'll try it because based on the lawsuits these motherfuckers will do anything it would be amazing though if he was like okay so here are the 10 things I did and this is what I'm pardoning myself for hi yeah he he goes to a police station to turn himself in I would like to confess to some crimes because I need to get charged while he's in office that's kind of the deal here is cam the clock is rapidly ticking for
Starting point is 00:58:29 somebody who is an actual enemy of uh whatever this system of governance is as fucked up as it is it's just like sure but that's just federal like he can't pardon himself from all the state shit he's no right that's why it's like, go ahead. Everybody's been sharpening their knives since the day. I mean, I think all of the prosecutors know how the presidential pardons work, but it was very clear once they saw the obstruction happening at DOJ that those U.S. attorneys were going to the people at the state level and being like, y'all, it ain't going to happen over here. So you might need to also get your car warmed up because something might have to happen on that side. And if you need help, we know some people
Starting point is 00:59:16 that kind of call or just like, hey, we can't do it, but you can. And then some files show up to that person's door right hey how did you that's from us that's from us another thing we i need to get out of the habit of personally is like thinking of the fbi as good guys because they were in this uh specific instance like we were rooting for we were rooting for the fucking nsa and yeah nsa cia fbi and you're like how the fuck that to get out of that i am reading family secrets and the jakarta method i highly recommend both about the history of cia fuckery and by fuckery i mean by fuckery i mean like straight up just murdering of innocent people oh yeah like fucking just blowing up planes and shit
Starting point is 01:00:08 like that politician was getting a little too popular in that country where we have investment interests or is it that's how they get you but Rudy Giuliani has also been discussing the idea of a preemptive pardon
Starting point is 01:00:24 but like, again, they're not saying what it would be for. So he's just, he's just going to pardon him for the thing that he did. And that's how we're going to find out what they actually did. Well, it's probably like his Ukraine shit,
Starting point is 01:00:39 lobbying on behalf of another country, all kinds of, you name it. I think Giuliani at this point is just like a bad publicist more than a lawyer, because he just says- Oh, for sure. Just like things where it's like a publicist would, like, hey, he's also an actor.
Starting point is 01:00:56 He does acting. You're like, it's just like, oh, he could blah, blah, blah. And you're like, you're just saying stuff. And then he repeats it like a drunk, where it's just like all night. Not like a drunk're just saying stuff. And then he repeats it like a drunk. Where it's just like all night. Not like a drunk because he's drunk. No, I was just saying. I was giving him an allegedly.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Allegedly. Got it. The one interesting thing is that Rudy and Trump have found their perfect equals. They're both have the same tether to reality as the other one so they just feed off of each other in like the worst collaboration you've fucking ever seen in your life that gets nothing done because all of their shit is just like man like can you imagine like what if we got joe biden out and like yeah man why don't you go and fucking do some fucking ukrainian uh muckraking or something it's like it and nothing
Starting point is 01:01:45 ends up actually substantive because they're i don't know like they're just so governed by what the optics are of what they do and not what the actual substance is or how they could even execute a plan that they would conceive the i think you're exactly it feels like high school kids like the hierarchy of high school where it's like they've went through every other click and been kicked out of every other click and everybody's just like i just can't put up with that guy and then other people are i can't put up with this and then they end up anymore man and you're like of course and then you're driving through town and you see those two hanging together and everybody's like, of course, they're friends. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Yeah. They're jousting on dirt bikes and with pitchforks. I don't know how this ends well, but that's them. You know, that's their thing. of the mainstream media buying literally anything they're talking about, Sidney Powell is still like, well, none of this is going to be necessary for him to pardon himself because we're going to win. We have released the Kraken.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Yeah, and then the Kraken stuff is really spinning out of control with there was allegedly a CIA shootout in Germany to retrieve servers that proved that there was allegedly a cia shootout in germany to retrieve uh servers that prove that there was cheating in the election and they will be released imminently it's just really like a lot of uh constant cult leader who predicts that the end of the world is tomorrow like stuff going on where it doesn't end and they just manage to keep the ball spinning. I just want to see after he says some stuff like that, like just a jump clip to actual Tom Clancy
Starting point is 01:03:34 just looking at the camera, just shaking his head like, no, this is not how this works. This is not how this works, you guys. Well, speaking uh things just spinning out of control the guy went on 60 minutes over the weekend chris krebs a former head of cyber security and infrastructure agency sysa uh and uh lifelong republican you know went on and was just like said what we all know to be true. Right. That like there wasn't, that this was a pretty above the board election
Starting point is 01:04:07 and everything Trump is saying is made up and just based on his ego and his inability, inability to accept his loss. Take the L. Take the L, so to speak. And it had the tone of somebody being like, listen, I wish there was some shit going on because my job would have been more fun.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I wish I would just, that's what I'm trained to do. You know, I don't want to say I want to get in a fight, but I've been trained to fight and I like to fight. Yeah. This shit was pretty boring.
Starting point is 01:04:40 So, yeah. But anyways, Joe DeGeneva, who, who is that, Miles? He's one of the spearheads man of trump's scam legal team like you know he was there for been there for everything he's like one of the people who followed the same mold of i'll scream just nonsense on fox a full voice and then i'll eventually be working with the president it's like easier than like going from Upright Citizens Brigade to like a like fucking, you know, workplace mockumentary show. Like the way there you're like, oh, right.
Starting point is 01:05:12 You do that for a little bit. And the next thing you know, you're there. But yeah, he was on Newsmax talking about Chris Krebs and said, quote, anybody who thinks that this election went well, like that idiot Krebs who used to be the head of cybersecurity. That guy is a class a moron he should be drawn and quartered taken out at dawn and shot so the host of the show was like oh come on joe and they just kind of pivoted to something else news max was like that's a little much we like to take the news to the max but you have stepped beyond it yeah in a satirical way but i guess our viewers don't realize this is satire yet um but the whole thing was yeah okay yeah i'll just
Starting point is 01:05:51 say yeah there's one producer at newsmax oh shit i guess there is a line i guess there is right i guess i got across i guess we got one damn okay all right well because we have we on all of our fec our fcc filing we're telling people this isn't a news channel but whatever um the whole thing with this group though is like once this clip this clip came out i was like oh my god this dude is calling for an execution of someone someone from the president's fucking legal team um and when they people asked krebs for comment he clapped back sort of legally speaking he said quote the way i look at it is we are a nation of laws and I plan to take it, take advantage of those laws. I've got an exceptional team of lawyers that win in court and I think they're probably going to be busy. And just was like, just as smooth, cool as you like, said it like that.
Starting point is 01:06:38 And then Savannah Guthrie, he was on like, and what is that? The Today Show. She followed up and she's like, are you concerned for your safety at all because you know this is following a pattern of people who have been protecting our elections getting death threats and shit like that he responded quote i'm not going to give them the benefit of knowing how i'm reacting to this they can know that there are things coming though so i don't know like that's just some weird like lawyer yeah but it's it's freaky but yeah it's basically saying like i'm lured the fuck up joe to joe to geneva and i'm not gonna take your tv
Starting point is 01:07:10 threats lightly so i mean we'll see what happens maybe joe to geneva will get a pardon who knows uh well other people who are probably uh quaking in their boots right now uh connor mcgregor yeah um yeah because famed loser in other important news uh jake paul is feeling himself after knocking nate robinson out and is apparently in talks to quote fuck connor mcgregor up i honestly no um let me just i'm just gonna play a clip he was he gave an interview to tmz sports uh where he's like yeah you know he first he was very actually very respectful of nate robinson he's like yeah you know we were fighting he got knocked out i don't think that's any reason for people to make fun of him or whatever like i respect him as a competitor like and i'm grateful for the fight
Starting point is 01:08:01 blah blah blah he didn't like you know dunk on him or anything like that and then they pivoted to this idea of the conor mcgregor fight and he was very like coy he's like yeah you know my we're talking or uh my manager's talking to his manager right now and we're seeing what's happening but then he starts like he gets a little momentum as it were on the feeling myself express and he's just kind of like but yeah like i'm i'm for real though i'm the real deal though like don't think this is some publicity shit. So the Jake Paul versus Conor McGregor fight is going to happen. And it's just a matter of when. And it's going to be legendary.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And I'm going to win, too. Like, that's what I really want people to understand. And I told my friends this. I was like, guys, this is going to happen. But not only that, like, I'm going to dedicate my life to winning that fight. Because I'm not just going in there just to fucking say I did it. I'm going in there to fucking fuck Conor McGregor up. I mean, here's the thing. I love it.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I love the confidence. Not to defend. Yeah, well. You got to have that confidence. You, without a doubt. Yeah. Well, you gotta have that confidence. You, without a doubt, if you were even considering stepping in the ring with that dude, you have to believe.
Starting point is 01:09:18 You can fold his ass up like a church folding table. You just have to be like, you're goddamn right. You better dedicate your life to fighting him. Yeah. Because that's what he's already done with his life he wasn't youtube in it he wasn't no he wasn't no that motherfucker is irish and he was fighting before it was profitable for him just because that's what they do right what do you think on youtube does youtube vloggers have parallel skills with fighting
Starting point is 01:09:44 conor mcgregor i mean obviously he seems to think he's a wrestler but i mean i that's what i said What do you think? And YouTube, does YouTube bloggers have parallel skills with fighting Conor McGregor? I mean, obviously he seems to think he's a wrestler, but I mean, I, that's what I said. I love the confidence because on its face to hear Jake Paul being like, yo,
Starting point is 01:09:53 I'm going in there to fuck Conor McGregor up is hilarious to me. But yes, there's no way you can have any, just as a competitor, there's no way you could go into any competition and be like, I don't know how I'm going to do. If you don't back yourself a hundred percent not gonna do well but all that to say is i love hearing someone like jake paul saying this shit because i i don't i can't imagine how this will
Starting point is 01:10:14 end up and i'm not ready for my 2020 bingo card to have a new square that says jake paul is the new jake lamont or like the fucking pugilism goat of all time. Suddenly. So I don't know. I don't know. I would pay money to watch that fight just to watch this dude get folded up. Um, one thing he said in that interview, he said, no other fighter with this big of a platform is calling out McGregor.
Starting point is 01:10:39 My dogs have more followers than the guy he's fighting in January. So he believes that followers translate. His two dogs, Lil Boo and Thor. Right. Well, I think what he understands. He believes that followers somehow and social media clout translate to him being a better fighter. He's still thinking like a YouTuber. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Let's train our audience. No, no, no. He is thinking like Don King. Right. So he's not wrong. Of course. It's just weird that the fighter is the one running, is also running the promotion.
Starting point is 01:11:14 That's what's throwing all of us off on this one. And also, he's in it for the money. McGregor will fight somebody, whoever he's supposed to fight, and then McGregor will quit for a while, and Jake Paul will run his fucking mouth for a couple years and get in my ass whooped and be in okay shape because that's what he's going to have to get in. If they fought tomorrow, he would kill him.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Yeah. Because did you hear tyson did you hear them talk about roy jones jr who was like like tyson was fucking with him yeah i didn't see that i didn't see the fight but i heard about that yeah like that's the thing like tyson still at whatever years old is a murdering killing machine machine. Quite literally, probably. Like, Jones Jr. popped him in the forehead good, and instead of going back, Tyson took a step forward. And you can see it in Roy Jones Jr.
Starting point is 01:12:18 And, like, Jones Jr. is, like, still breathing hard after the fight because he's taking body shots. And he said, he's's like i thought i was strong enough to take he's like but this is that dude's a fucking animal and he smoked weed before the fight yes and mike tyson's just standing there yeah and roy jones you're like and tyson's like yo i mean what do we do i we do? I mean, do you want me to? I can hit you. Do you want me to?
Starting point is 01:12:47 Yeah. We've spent a lot of time on this show talking about Jordan, peak Jordan, what a great athlete Jordan was, how next level. The most exciting athlete I've ever watched in my life was peak Mike Tyson. When I was like seven, eight years old, we would go to my dad's friend's house and like get the fight and when that motherfucker was walking into the ring against like sphinx like that shit was so exciting man and just like unbelievably skilled uh next level just watching him box in slow motion is incredible maybe jake paul should fight mike tyson if he's not he would die
Starting point is 01:13:27 it's like when but when butterbean punched johnny knoxville right oh god but that's what i'm saying about jake paul fighting conor mcgregor it's like he would have to get in take a punch yeah your kick shape just take it he's been fighting amateurs. Well, it would be boxing. Because there's no... I mean, I don't know what that would look like if it was a full-on octagon fight. I would like to watch that. I would like to watch that. I would love to watch that.
Starting point is 01:13:54 I always love to see assholes who I don't like actually get served a full-on ass whooping. 100% my favorite genre of entertainment. But with this, it's like, yeah. 100% my favorite genre of entertainment. But with this, it's like, yeah, you also take your feelings of momentum with about a whole thing of Morton Salt. Because, again, sir, you fought KSI, who's another YouTuber, and you won. You fought fucking Nate Robinson. The height difference is just stupid. Who's not a professional fighter.
Starting point is 01:14:21 And don't think that that's going to translate suddenly to fighting fighting a professional fighter but again i love the confidence uh and please you know the karma gods do what you got to do keep it coming please keep it coming uh all right uh billy wayne it's been a pleasure having you as always where can uh people find you and follow you just google billy wayne davis and i'm at whatever social thing you want to follow me at and also i have a very very wonderful cannabis podcast that i'm proud of called grown local yeah it's on all the things uh what we do is we go around interviewing the growers so we're trying to we're trying to get rid of the stigma of cannabis by showing you the people that bring it to you. They're just farmers and normal people who've been fighting a really cool fight for a long time. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, man, I got a couple of tweets here. of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, man, I got a couple of tweets here. Dan Wicks, who I don't really know who that is, but I saw it retweeted. Malcolm Gladwell was on the Epstein flight log. He believes women hit their peak at 10,000 hours. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Yikes. And then the other one I liked was Blair Sachi, a Zeitgeist favorite. Yeah, man. Yikes. And then the other one I liked was Blair Saatchi, a Zeitgeist favorite. Yeah, yeah. I love to start my day with a plant-based smoothie and follow it up with a quick package of salami. As a former athlete, I very much relate to that. I believe she does that.
Starting point is 01:16:02 I very much relate to that. I believe she does that. She is a really, she's a, was like a D one college volleyball player. Yeah. She plays it down, but she played at UCLA, which is like a,
Starting point is 01:16:14 one of the best programs in the country too. Yeah. She basically played football for Alabama. She's like, she's just like a great athlete. Yeah. That's amazing. Miles, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:16:26 What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, Miles of Grey, 420 Day Fiance. If you want to hear, you know, that reality shit talking. Tweet I like comes from Jabari Ali Davis at Jabari Davis NBA. For the Dexter fans out there, this one really resonated with me. Dexter ended after season four with Rita in the tub. The rest was just a fever dream we all experienced. Never happened.
Starting point is 01:16:50 And I've never felt this more because it really, after that season, you're like, how could it go higher? And it didn't. It didn't. It went straight down the fucking drain. It was like awful. I mean, my uncle worked on that show and i was even like what the fuck was that bro like the season the series for now i mean look he's not you know he wasn't the fucking writer or whatever yeah yeah i'm like i know you guys are probably like fucking mad at this right
Starting point is 01:17:15 because that john lithgow season was fucking amazing anyway so yes all that to say dexter i believe is coming back and i don't know how i'm feeling about it but no you're right that tweet is so right i didn't know i felt this feeling about it. No, you're right. That tweet is so right. I didn't know I felt this strongly about it, but I love that show. Yeah, after season four, you're like, what? Especially the one with Edward James Olmos. I'm like, this dude was a fucking ghost the whole time? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:17:39 You just wasted the whole season on a whole thing. Anyway, I don't give a fuck. Spoilers for Dexter after the warning. I think that was one of the first shows that we started realizing that people could be like, I think you just do three seasons. That's the story. Right. Thank God. Because it used to be like, we're going to keep this going until the dump truck full of money leaves.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Right. And then fuck it. Like, if we've completely vaporized upon reentry because the work is so bad, fuck it. We got a truck full of money. I got that money truck. So I'm going to go. I don't have to do stuff anymore. That's such a weird show for them to be bringing back as like a show that is famous for having like the worst ending of all time like
Starting point is 01:18:26 right for a good show they're like you know what more whatever yeah more of this well that's the american way out there you know it'd be better more more of the bad thing yeah yeah i just make us money marginally that's all i needed to hear have we done more yet uh some tweets i've been enjoying morgan parker tweeted it's gonna be so embarrassing when i still want to cancel plans and stay home and i feel that uh jess dweck tweeted that picture of stephen miller and his new baby holding his new baby and said weird that Stephen Miller waited until today to post a photo of his Thanksgiving meal. And then Meredith at Deets
Starting point is 01:19:12 Meredith tweeted, no, they're not symptoms of depression. They're blues clues. I like that. Yeah, it's just a cute way to think about our symptoms of depression. You can find me on twitter jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and
Starting point is 01:19:35 a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what are we riding into this fine afternoon upon so this is just a nice vibey track for hump day called patiently uh by splash brothers topaz jones highly supreme it's got just a ton of different ms on here the production's really great and it's got just laid back vibes you know I'm not after talking about that intense reality show sometimes you just kind of want a little bit of
Starting point is 01:20:12 some headphone head nod beats so this is that for y'all alright we're gonna ride out on that the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for this morning.
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