The Daily Zeitgeist - Hershey’s ChocoLIT AF, DonJu DGAF 5.15.19

Episode Date: May 15, 2019

In episode 392, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and The Worst podcast host Greta Titelman to discuss the Hershey bar redesign, Megan Rapinoe kneeling for the anthem in solidarity, Donald Trump Jr trying to evade the law, how the Game Of Thrones cast feels about the last season, and more! Plus super producer Anna Hossnieh pops in to talk about the The Bachelorette premiere.FOOTNOTES:1. Hershey’s changes chocolate bar design for first time in over a century for reasons2. Bachelorette boots contestant who has girlfriend3. US women's soccer player: My anthem protests are 'F you' to Trump administration4. Witness video shows Baytown officer fatally shooting woman during attempted arrest5. How Donald Trump Jr. and Richard Burr hit an impasse6. A Brief Update On Donald Trump Jr. Begging His Mom To Write A Note Excusing Him From 'Senate'7. Donald Trump Jr.’s No-Shows Led to Subpoena, Republican Senator Says8. WATCH: 3 Minutes of the Game of Thrones Cast Being Disappointed by Season 89. WATCH: Yuno - So Slow Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's Wednesday, May 15th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Meth Curry, a.k.a. Nark Gasol, a.k.a. Dick LaMiratich, a.k.a. Draymond Peen. Wow. Yes, those are the conference finals. Nark Gasol is definitely who I actually, I actually, a.k.a. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. There's a space on a Taco Bell menu. Swear it used to hint at godly food. It was so Mexie and it melts so right.

Chiefing all day, Mexie melt all night. Oh, okay. You know what? I fuck with Yellow Card Ocean Avenue, and i also fuck with the taco bell mexi mouth that i've now had to find a hack on the menu to make the thing the way i like it uh shout out to trite gang at just tdz aka's for that one also small fact the violin player from yellow card claims to be the first dude to do a backflip at a rock concert on stage huh that's just some shit that is a wild he pulls up with that

and that is not something you're like i'm like bro you're the dude who plays like this transparent green violin and yellow card you're out here being like i'm the first dude to rock back to it right but wait that band that you were just singing that sounded very pop punk they have a violin player yes pop punk with violin um That's interesting. So his stance is that a Major League Baseball player did a backflip on the field before anybody did a backflip on stage at a rock concert. Yeah. Yeah. Sean Mackin. Of course.

Backflip and violin solo. Oh, wow. My God. If you just search fucking yellow card backflip, it's like his fucking, it's his personality. Yeah. I think he actually is like a fucking backflip, it's like his fucking, it's his personality. Yeah. I think he actually is like a fucking backflip. Hey, man. Gotta have a brand.

Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very funny and talented Greta Teitelman. Hello. Hello. Welcome. I really like that he's flexing, that he's the first person to do a backflip. Yeah. I mean, look.

It's just so hard to prove. You know, but does it matter if you believe it? I don't know. Yeah, maybe not. It's one of those things, too. Like, I don't even have the energy to argue about it

because it seems more important to him than it is to me to be like, no. Yes. And also, like, you playing a violin on stage with people playing, like, cool instruments.

Right. Yeah, you're going to have to spice it up with a backflip. Look, hold on. I was a violinist growing up and I used to dream of playing an cool instruments. Right. And yeah, you're going to have to spice it up with a backflip. Look, hold on. I was a violinist growing up. I know. And I used to dream of playing an electric violin. That was like the shit.

Oh, like Jake Busey in Starship Troopers? Sure. We're like, what's her face in the Dixie Chicks? Yo, do you not remember in Starship Troopers, Jake Busey plays the fucking wild see-through violin? Oh man, I have the dumbest fucking memory for shit that doesn't matter. That's rock and roll.

Yeah. But anyway, no. You know what? No shade to string instruments because I'm actually, I love classical music. But I just, you know, whatever. I'm taking, I'm projecting onto the yellow carpet. It's okay. It's okay.

But we love him. Yeah. He's an icon. Yes. Shout out to Boyd Tinsley. Also, Dave. Dave Matthews Band. We're all fans here. I think I can speak for everyone.

Yes. That's sick. For all y'all who didn't remember, Jake Ducey. I feel like I need to just do a deep dive, like take, audit a college pop punk history course just to get your AKAs a little bit better. We were both 16 and it felt

so right. Sleeping all day day staying up all night yeah i love pop punk oh dude it's it's so good very fun to fuck around and sing like i mean lit excellent band i mean i love blink 182 i know that that's like pop punk-y ish I just want to read your cup in a pop... Local and organic since 1995. You know what I mean? We got a man goal. We got a stew goal. It's wonderful.

It can apply in any moment. I think you should, if you ever get married, you should read your vows in that voice. Babe, I vow to cherish you. Or you should propose in that voice. Will you? Oh, shit.

I like that. And be told, fuck no. Or she'd be overwhelmed and just start sobbing and be like, you're the man of my dreams. I love you so much. I'm obsessed. Now do dashboard. Exactly. Greta, it's been great having you in the office. I can't wait to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today

we're going to talk about Hershey's redesigning their chocolate bar we're going to bring in super producer Ana Hosnier for a quick bachelorette preview because episode one went off on two nights ago and and apparently it was lit. We're going to talk about Megan Rapinoe taking a stand by kneeling. We're going to talk about Don Jr. not giving a fuck, Elizabeth Warren saying, fuck you to Fox News, and QAnon ruining a children's butterfly fundraiser. All of that and plenty, plenty more. But first, Greta greta we like to ask

our guests what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are um well i i don't i don't know if this is that revealing but i took it very literally like your most recent most recent google search uh is millie bobby brown teeth okay i think that's very revealing you know it shows what i care? It shows what I care about. It shows what I care about. Is she teeth? Yeah. She got, it appears as though she got veneers.

Already? Really? Yeah. Because I was like looking at her Instagram and I was like, whoa, her teeth look very different than her little baby teeth. Wow. I was going to suggest Botox for her, but not veneers.

Isn't her manager Wanda Sykes from the other two? Right. Exactly. Yeah, I mean, the cute thing always about Millie Bobby Brown was like her little kid teeth. You know what I mean? All those kids and stranger things.

Yeah, had like little kiddie teeth. And then I was like in a hole on Instagram at two in the morning last night and somehow was watching a video of her talking to camera and I noticed those teeth do not look like baby teeth anymore. So they look like veneers rather than Invisalign? Did you look it up yet? I said Millie Bobby Brown teeth, but I'm seeing a lot of-

It looks like veneers to me. Okay. I am not a teeth expert, but- I know who we can enlist is the help of Jamie Loftus, who is a veneer hunter. Yes. Yes. Jamie Loftus would probably be a good person to- She's obsessed with celebrity veneers.

A lot of people really lose themselves with a veneer, and I get it. I would love, I mean, I don't need veneers, but I definitely want to, when I get enough money, I want to bleach my teeth to be so white. To be, like, distracting? Yeah, well, my boyfriend's teeth are absolutely distracting. They, like, glow at night, and it's upsetting to me. He's obsessed with keeping them super, super white as possible. But look, remember when Hilary Duff got veneers? That first round?

Those big chompers she got put in there and then she had to give them shade down. I remember when Eva Mendes got hers and I was like, hmm. And you know what? It's a real moment in celebrity. In a celebrity's timeline, your first round of veneers really means you're entering into full celebrity

so good for Millie like I cause she had like some fangs that were like over top of her teeth she had the Kirsten Dunst kinda you know that would be like if Kirsten Dunst came with some Joe Biden teeth all of a sudden

it would be like what? the coolest thing about Kirsten Dunst is like she really made that like snaggly tooth a part of her thing and i love that about her i would imagine now like being famous when you're 11 and then like going through puberty just sounds fucking terrible oh my god my teeth were i had a i didn't have a canine tooth until I was 19. I had a retainer that had it in there. Oh, really? Yeah.

Wow. And then 19, it just popped in. No, I had to get Invisalign and I had to make room for it so that it would drop. And it was terrible. I did my freshman year of college without a tooth and it was in a retainer. Without a single tooth? Without this tooth. Oh, wow.

Wow, look at that. Oh, wow. Old chomper. Wow, look at that. Without a chomper. But it's perfect. But now it's perfect. Listeners should know you have perfect teeth now. Thank you, Invisalign. When we are done recording, I will show you what Millie Bobby Brown's teeth look like right now.

Okay. Yeah. People, what can people Google to see it? Just Millie Bobby Brown teeth. Just like maybe Millie Bobby Brown teeth. Or just like pop on her Instagram, look at some recent video footage of her talking, and you'll say, huh, those are nice veneers. She went Meg Ryan to Joe Biden.

I don't know. I'm definitely not seeing that sharp tooth. She had two sharp teeth. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And by the way, no shade to anyone with sharp teeth. I love that. I hate that we're even analyzing this child's teeth or whatever. Oh, I know, but it's like. Yeah, yeah, but I love that. I hate to even that we're like even analyzing this child's teeth or whatever. It's just about knowing.

Yeah, yeah, but I get it. But you know when you change your teeth when you're an actor like that, when your job is to be on screen all the time, it's like when you get a nose job. Do you know what I mean? It's like something so drastic Oh, well I had a deviated septum. On your face that changes. That's why I had to get that rhinoplasty over the summer. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, because I play soccer. I caught it. You know, shit happens. With a ball. It's true. What is because I play soccer. I caught it. Shit happens. With the ball. Yeah, it's true. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? I have two underrateds. Okay, let's do them. But I can say something that I think is overrated. You know what I think is overrated?

Salad shops. Salad shops. Yes. So we're talking about... Like, yeah, like a sweet greens, a just salad, a chopped salad. I think they're overrated. Okay. For me personally. What is it about it? Every vegetable tastes the same. Have you

noticed that? You get a medley of vegetables in that salad and every single one tastes the same. I guess because, yeah, if you're not going to like a farmer's market where, you know, like massive factory farming hasn't like just sort of taken the flavor out of shit. Right. Like you could eat a mouthful that was like, there was carrots in that?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I get a salad and then I have this beautiful sort of harvest medley of vegetables in there and then I put in my mouth and it tastes like just lettuce. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, raw vegetables definitely all taste about the same. Yeah. And that's why salad dressing was invented to just put a cloak of one flavor over the whole thing.

Yeah, to put a blanket over the thing. Flavor blanket. And I appreciate that. I just think, I'm going to say that's overrated. And my friend did text me that he thinks purses are overrated, which I thought was very funny. Use your pockets was the general point. That's hard if you have thick legs. That's hard, though, if you have a popping bag that you want to show the world.

I have a few accessories that I want people to see. That's that rainbow Murakami Louis Vuitton from 2003. I love that bag. Yeah, who doesn't? I had a small one, the white and the multicolored. I had the fake belt. You know what I mean? I thought I was a rapper. It's 2003. I love that bag. Yeah, who doesn't? I had a small one, the white and the multicolored. I had the fake belt. You know what I mean? I thought I was a rapper.

It's popping. I love it. What is something you think is underrated? Well, we were just talking about this. I think Leighton Meester is underrated.

Boom. Huge take. And that's honestly a huge cultural take for the day. I know. It is. Okay, so for me, I didn't watch Gossip Girl,

so I wasn't as invested or following her career. And for the two of you, as soon as you said it, Greta, Jack was like, oh shit, yes. I was a gossip guy, and I thought she was by far the more talented between her and Blake Lively. Not saying only one of them can be famous,

but just like comparatively, Blake Lively not not saying like only one of them can be famous but just like comparatively Blake Lively's had a huge career and Leighton Meester's not really but she's like I thought she was like really pretty and really talented on the show I was like she's gonna be a big deal and then you haven't heard as much and then she was in that movie with Minka Kelly do you remember this where she was like Minka Kelly's kind of like single white female remake. Right. Yeah. I don't know.

I think she's cool and I think she's really talented. She also sings. Yeah. But my theory is, what we were discussing earlier, my theory is that Rachel Bilson filled the hole

that Leighton could have taken. Right. Okay. And then by the time she was on with Gossip taken. Okay. And then like, by the time she was on the gossip girl, it was kind of, everyone was kind of like, yeah,

but we already have Rachel Bilson for all this shit. And I think that's a really interesting point. And like a way to look at celebrity culture is that we need one of each. And if there's too many people filling that same position, then you have a Bill Paxton-Pullman situation where people, you know, it gets confusing. And yes, there's enough work for bland white men, or at least there was in the 90s

for both of those guys to exist, but for a lot of other types. It definitely shouldn't be that way. She kind of looks like Rose Byrne to me also. Yeah, she has a little bit of that. There's like a lot of overlap with her, Minka Kelly even.

They all have very interesting. Yeah, Minka, they're just like very gorge brunettes. Same planet. Right. That like can act. I also think that Leighton Meester has like a comedy thing going for her that we haven't

been able to see. I'm shocked that she was never cast in a Apatow comedy. I'm shocked that she never got a little role in something like that. Damn, who's her reps, man? I don't know. I'm telling you, I think my theory is that she's mismanaged. Yeah. I hope she's listening and she goes, I need this Greta title.

That's the myth I'm going to create. The late Meester is mismanaged. There you go. I like it. But the best crossover of all, I love how I'm just a sponge for early 2000s pop culture knowledge, is that she is married to Adam Brody to Rachel Bilson's boyfriend in The O.C.

Wow. Which I think is just like, you know. That's crazy. Bringing it back to Rachel Bilson and K in The O.C. Wow. Which I think is just like, you know. That's crazy. Bringing it back to Rachel Bilson and Kirsten Dunst went to my high school. Wow. Really? We're just, we're surrounded. And you dealt them weed?

Like Snoop Dogg, Cameron Diaz? No, did not dealt them weed. Because you were too young. They, I mean, they weren't at school. Like a lot of the kids who like were in TV that I went to high school with just were never there because they were in production all the time. Same with, what's her face? Harriet the Spy.

Oh. Michelle Trachtenberg. Michelle Trachtenberg. Yeah. Another one in Gossip Girl that after Gossip Girl, what happened? Yeah. Where did she go? But she also in some interviews was like, I was bullied in high school.

And I was like, girl, you were never at school. Yeah. So what? Anyway, girl, you were never at school. Yeah. So what? Anyway, that's a side note. That's your own personal gossip that you have. Yeah, that's my own gossip. That's my own tea. I'm like, um, she was never here.

And that's the tea. And she was already famous. So she was like, I was bullied for being famous type thing? Maybe. I don't know. But she was very, she was barely at school. I was like, oh, yeah, she's at school today? Cool.

Miles, you don't know her life. I don't know. I don't know her life. You cannot speak for her. I don't know, but she was barely at school. I was like, oh yeah, she's in school today? Cool. Miles, you don't know her life. I don't know her life. You cannot speak for her. I can't. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? That your period stops when you're in water. Now, I've heard this all my life. Yes.

No, I actually was not familiar with this myth. Well, if you ask any woman, any woman listening, you know, you hear if you're in water, your period stops. It's fine. Now, look, there is some truth to this. Like the water and the pressure. Counter pressure or whatever. Yeah, it creates kind of like a gravitational suction, if you will. So you're not like free bleeding everywhere.

Right, right. But I will say, you sneeze, you cough, you laugh. All bets are off. Next thing you know a wad of blood is flying out of you. Shark attack in there. Exactly. Well not a shark attack but I do love the dramatization that men have

of periods. It's just blood everywhere. You don't know man. Animals will come. So you've seen The Shining, right? It's like that elevator. Yeah. And then out of nowhere, it's a bloodbath. Exactly.

That is a myth that I would just like to say. You know what? You can never be too safe. Pop in a tampon if you're getting into a body of water and you have your period. Just protect yourself and just make sure if you're in the ocean and you get out, check if the string's dangling out because that's happened to me a few times. Okay, that's fair. Also, another myth, Leighton Meester is mismanaged.

Thank God. I was waiting for you to say that. It's finally some truth. All right, guys, let's talk about Hershey's really briefly, Hershey's bars. I have not looked at, purchased a Hershey's bar in a long while. I mean, I think once people go to Europe and try chocolate over there, they're like, what are we doing with our chocolate in the US? Well, once you start fucking with Kinder.

Yeah. You're like, we're the Kinder Bueno. Yeah. Then it's all bets are off. Yeah. Or even Cadbury. Cadbury, I was going to say. But I'm told they still make these Hershey's bars.

They do. I've heard of this. They still have a town. Hershey, Pennsylvania. Yeah. I've gone to Hershey Chocolate World a's bars. They do. They do. I heard tell of this. They still have a town. Hershey, Pennsylvania. I've gone to Hershey Chocolate World a bunch of times growing up as a kid. Right, an entire theme park. Were you from Pennsylvania? I was born in Harrisburg.

Okay. And I lived there until I was eight. Okay. And Hershey was like 45 minutes away. And yeah, Hershey Park is a theme park that had the Super Duper Looper, a very famous roller coaster. Super Duper Looper? It was called the Super Duper Looper. And then, yeah, Hershey Chocolate World.

You got to sit in this car and go on this ride. And the whole thing smelled like delicious chocolate. I loved it. You got to see fake. I mean, I don't know if they're fake or real. You can never tell. Just vats of chocolate. Right.

And they would pump like cocoa scent into the air. And it was just a delicious chocolatey factory. Man. Actually, is Hershey Park tight? Or is it like a lame theme park? Hershey Park, I thought it was tight as a kid. Right. And it would, you know, your height would be Hershey candy, so a Hershey case was little.

You're like, you must be Twizzler high to get on here. Yeah, Twizzler was the tall. Like, if you were a Twizzler, you could ride every ride. Got you. Twizzler was Hershey's? I had no idea. Yeah, and then there were Reese's Cups. Or Jolly Rancher.

No, that wasn't mine. I'm looking at the sign right now. Oh, is a Jolly Rancher a baby? No, it seems like it's above Twizzler. Oh, my God. Anyway. Why would a Jolly Rancher be above Twizzler? I wasn't mine. I'm looking at the sign right now. Oh, is a Jolly Rancher a baby? No, it seems like it's above Twizzler. Oh, my God. Anyway. Why would a Jolly Rancher be above Twizzler? I don't know.

You'd think the Hershey would be at the top. You're at motherfucking Hershey Park. I just remember going there, and that was when I first realized I could have crushes on boys in my grade, and going to an outing. Theme park, yeah, yeah, yeah. We get that. Yeah. Anyway. Sorry. We get that. Yeah. Anyway.

Well, sorry. Well, first of all, though, when did we stop making theme parks? I guess Lego was the last one that made a theme park. But I mean, Disney did it. Hershey did it.

Then Lego did it recently. But more brands. Oh, yeah. Bush Parks. Is there one? Oh, Bush Gardens. Yeah. But I guess there aren't any

like massive. Yeah. There's not like a craft park. Right. Willy Wonka. That shit... That should have been more of a model for everything. A craft park. I can't wait to go to Monsanto Mountain.

Right. Exactly. Yeah. Well, I want to be a tiny thing inside a world of your product. The souvenir cups at Monsanto Mountain are like just like tubs of Roundup with a straw in it. This weed killer is great. Mountain Dew could have a like extreme sports, like totally extreme video game. A Mountain Dew park.

That's one of the smartest ideas I've ever heard. Thank you. A Code Red ride? Right. Oh my goodness. The Baja Blaster? Yeah, what? God damn. Baja Blaster. It's done. The Baja Blaster would be the water park, right? Yeah.

The Baja Blaster that would just like shoot you down in water. Anyways, Mountain Dew. Sorry. Back to the story. So, look. I don't care about the story anymore. I'm on Mountain Dew Park. But how are they repackaging the chocolate? So they're

redesigning it for a new generation. Now kids have, as Miles wrote, no reason to buy Hershey's because they've added emoji to the thing. Oh, honestly, that's literally terrible. Look, here's the thing.

Look, they have not fucked around with the design for over 125 years. That spans three centuries, technically. But the only reason they're doing it, now don't worry because it's a limited run. It's not like we're totally fucking up the formula. But this is all because a survey or a study, a focus group basically said, kids like emojis. Yeah. And so from there, the geniuses, they're like, all right, fuck it.

We're making emoji bars. Okay. But I would also just like to say, you know who likes emojis more than kids? Old people. Adults over the age of 60. Yeah. Right. My father uses more emojis in texting with me than any of my friends.

My mom's emoji use has ramped up in the last 18 months. Yeah. It's crazy. Sometimes she will fucking use just emojis to respond. Yeah. I think emojis just had a tipping point in the baby boomer generation. Right, we've just reached it.

Because my dad all of a sudden is sending- Oh, he's loving it? Yeah, and somewhat inappropriate ones. Not inappropriate, but like- What, like the eggplant with the tongue? No, no, no, no. The eggplant, like the wet drips? Yeah, the three inappropriate ones. Not inappropriate. Like the eggplant with the tongue? No, no, no. The eggplant, like the wet drips? Yeah, the three drops of the eggplant.

He did a wine glass for, I think he meant cheers, but it was on something about babies, so it was just a weird mix. But he's just very excited about the use of- I'm out here swinging for the fences like, oh, he's a sexual deviant? Yeah, yeah. No, it's just like an alcohol thing in the context of a child's party.

Like eggplants everywhere, the peach emoji. Peach tongue, peach tongue. Yeah, exactly. Being like, oh, the new harvest came in anyway. With regards to the specific emoji they're using, you got your thumbs up, you got your two hands, but not two hands clapping or prayer hands, which I was confused by. This one? No, it's like the weird

hands out. What is that? They made some weird decisions. They have the fist bump, but then they have... Those are praise hands, Anna Hosni says. Oh, those are supposed to be the praise hands? But that's not really what they look like. No, it looks like

somebody's walking on their hands. Yeah. And left an imprint in the sand. Is the bottom right one a pilgrim? That's the cowboy hat one. Oh. The cowboy hat's my favorite. That's a new one.

I use the cowboy hat a lot. Okay. Cowboy hat's good. We'll say anyway, just back to their market research, I just want to say that they found, this is the kind of facts

that are informing these decisions, 87% of youths thought they would want to share a Hershey emoji situation with other youths. They 87% of youths thought they would want to share a Hershey emoji situation with other youths. They're fucking saying youths over and over. The study

included a sample size of 1,000 consumers and half were kids ages 8 to 13. The other half were parents of kids that age. Then Hershey's did yet more research on children and their rage for emoji allowing a group of youngsters and their parents to select the 25 emoji used on the six bars chosen to quote feature meanings that would help to spark a conversation and make new connections.

Whenever anybody uses the word youngsters in copy, I'm just like, I can't. Yeah. It's written by a robot. Yeah. I don't know how many people I would be telling if I were Hershey's that I had like a 500 8 to 13 year olds in like a lab just being like, you like this emoji? Which one you like? Yeah.

You like it? Pick them. Focus groups are generally weird. I've been in some. Oh man, I used to make money. But like on children. Yeah, I was like, you can make money. When you're broke in college,

I do so many motherfucking focus groups. Like I remember I got kicked out of one that was a T-Mobile. I think, whatever, I fucking signed to NDA, but that was 12 years ago. Come get me T-Mobile I think whatever I fucking signed to NDA but that was 12 years ago come get me T-Mobile and the NBA they were doing a thing about a collaboration between the two and I was just the one being like well the postseason is rigged anyway

I'm like so what does it matter and they're like what do you mean I'm like did y'all not see the fucking biography that's about to come out with the ref who basically admitted that they were anyway whatever and they're like okay so in the next break yeah they were like they're like we're gonna give you your check break. Tim Donaghy. Yeah, they're like, we're going to give you your check. And then you're free to go.

And I was like, oh, shit. Okay, fine. I was like, oh, I got kicked out. I'll take the money. Yeah, I'm like, thanks for my 80 bucks. I was in one for FN Vodka. Do you remember FN? Isn't that 50 cents?

Yes. I was in a focus group for FN Vodka. And I actually had a great time that day. Was it just tasting it and being like, what do you think? It was like a lot about like how you interact with, how often you go out, how you interact with drinking, how you interact with like, like what would why would you be more inclined to buy a bottle of effing at a club than a bottle of Grey Goose than a bottle of Belvedere? And like, I remember them being like, do you view effing vodka on the same level as Belvedere? And we were all just like, no. Right.

What? Yeah. Well, you know. FN is still around, I think. Hey, you know, yeah, fucking Coke price jumped through the roof, you know? Anyway. Is that your 50 Cent impression? Yeah, he says that in one of the, what is it, in the Get Rich or Die trying?

Anyways, talking about Bin Laden and 9-11 or something and Coke prices. Yeah. Coke prices jumped through the roof, huh? Yeah. Vitamin Water was also one of his brands. He really got involved. But then he went bankrupt. Then he went bankrupt.

But then I think he's hiding all the cash because he still pulls up in things and he's like, I don't know where I got this money. Yeah, because he was also, wasn't he worth apparently like $800 million or something like that? Yeah, he owned Mike Tyson's old home. He had to sell that shit. In Farmington, Connecticut. Right, yeah. I feel like that home is not a good investment based on the fact that the only two people who have owned it in the past 20 years have gone bankrupt.

Are Mike Tyson and 50 Cent? Absolutely not. All right, guys, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. All right, guys, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. The situation is desperate. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week,

we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself.

Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture up first I explore the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel

Reese I know I'll go down in history people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game every great player needs a foil I ain't really near them boys I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.

She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these

two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast

or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Carrie Champion and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.

I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have

changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. And we want to do a quick check-in with super producer Anna Hosnier and The Bachelorette, which is back.

And some cool stuff happened last night. Hey. Hey. I feel like we're doing a public service because everybody's talking about The Bachelorette whenever it comes back so you need to know It's that time of year

Yeah Wow you really turned it on there Yeah first you came on like you just woke up you're like hey and then oh she lives for it don't

what I highly enjoy it I mostly just live for my puppy What Her puppy is The Bachelor and Bachelorette. No, she's lying. Yeah, I kind of live for it, but I also produce a podcast about it. Maybe you guys heard about it?

Nope. Never heard of it. Except there's Rose Reckless on another network? Cool. Yeah. It's actually not on a network. We're independent. Thank you so much.

Oh, independently owned. Independently owned. Wow, an indie podcast? Indie pods. Wow. There's so many sound effects I got. I know people that have gotten really far along in the casting process for Bachelor and Bachelor

yes actually shout out to Jonathan who's on this season who works at Paisana because James Jameson hit me up at Paisana? yeah James Jameson hit me up and said hey I can hook it up and I was like hook it up like hook you up with a date? with one of the

wow that's tight Not this one my To have him on that show that you do James Jamison And he's actually the one that showed up last night with a pizza From Pizza Hut And is he still on the show Yeah he's currently still on the show but it's only night one so we'll see how it goes

How many of there are 20 24 It starts at 24? Yeah. And then 12 get dismissed first show? 12 get dismissed? Ugh. You are insulting me.

Yeah, how many roses does she hand? Four get kicked off last. Four or five got kicked off last night. Oh, really? Five. It was five. Well, definitely one motherfucker got kicked off because- Okay, so I guess technically six?

Somebody pulled up- Oh, five. Okay. Somebody pulled up already in a relationship the reason we're getting here because we have a clip that's very juicy right yes so this guy so basically probably the craziest girl from last season showed up she's friends with the bachelorette she goes i know someone has slid into my dms and let me know that this guy has a girlfriend and i've seen screenshots of their text messages.

And so Hannah B. comes out here, calls him out, and I believe we have a clip. And he handles it real smooth, I hear. I've heard that you do have a girlfriend, that you talk to her on Mondays. I just want to understand why these things would be said about you. Exactly why you're here. Yeah, no, I mean, I think that the reason why you've heard that is I have, like, dated this girl. And I was nervous coming into it, yeah, like everybody else was, but I'm not here for, like, the reason I'm here is for you.

You know what? I'm done with this. There's no reason for you to be here if you're not serious. It's time for you to head out. Well, I'm telling you I have been here. No, you haven't, dude. If that's what you think is serious, then you have a lot to get ready for before you're ready for any type of engagement. Boom. Wow.

Where is she from? She's from Alabama. New York, I. Wow. Before you're on this reality show. Where is she from? She's from Alabama, Tuscaloosa. I'm loving that accent she has. She is roll tide queen. I thought she was from Yonkers. She's like, really dude? Come on, dude.

She, yeah, she read him. Secret girlfriends abound on this show. I was hoping that it would be like something that we could really talk about, like some guy in a poly relationship and it was like open and like. No, it's just a dude who's clout chasing, got on a dating TV show and presented himself as a single person. The part they didn't show was that he apparently told his girlfriend that he would, hey, I'm just going to go on this show real quick, babe.

And then I'm going to come back and we're going to go on vacation together. Can I just say- Get my followers up real quick. I don't hate that. I don't know. I don't hate that. Now that we're talking about this guy,

and now this guy probably has more followers or whatever, he's probably going to get some fucking 50 sponsor or protein, whatever. The whole reality machine is about exploiting these people. So why the fuck shouldn't you exploit that machine? Also, we all knew that they all, like the producers knew about this. Yeah. Obviously.

And they're like, this will be great. We'll kick it off. Of course. We'll press this guy. That's the thing. She came back into the room and was like, if anyone else has a girlfriend, you need to get out now. And everyone's like, ugh.

Half the dude's like. Yeah, it's like these dudes were all hooking up with everyone has that girl you know you like see or whatever girls even have those dudes you see but like that's just kind of how it is and then you go on the bachelorette and then if you go far you don't talk to that girl anymore it's like absolutely because

when you apply for the bachelor or bachelorette 99% of the time you're just like I'm applying for this right yeah you know like I'm gonna find the person I love yeah not even I'm married at first sight do they believe that no what person fucking married like how this has to happen all the time and just not be brought up right yeah no I think there's a higher percentage than what we actually see I think some are just better at hiding it some you know no one ever just calls them out I mean there was a guy who came on

someone already got kicked off before the season even started because he got like they saw him on like whatever the thing or like they saw him on another dating reality either like on like an app yeah like online or they saw him oh no they saw him on that first the after the final rose of the last season where they introduced her to like five men like early to like start her show already and one of the dudes got called out immediately and got kicked off for being for having a girlfriend yeah i do get bummed out though with like how the celebrity component of all of it because now the bachelors and bachelorettes become so fucking famous it's all about instagram again they don't care like that nick vial who i see all the time yeah um i'm kind of just like you never even you just wanted to be famous he was on there four times yeah his life i don't think he can

possibly ever be in a relationship again because he seems so broken by reality tv just based off my observations of a human being who's just gone through the system one too many times and is now an emotional useless person through the system yep yeah real injustice man well you know what shout out to ryan and trista still together after all these years they got in before the whole like system blew up and all of a sudden it became about instagram followers yep right but uh shout out to all the dudes who are gonna tweet us and be like can we got like guys like i'm totally over the bachelor segment what do we know about her other than about the bachelorette other than she's world tied are you you a fan i mean she had a kind of

a shitty edit in the last season because she came off as crazy um and like i mean she's she was miss alabama you know oh shit yeah so she's you know she's cool i think she's gonna bring a really fun show because she's off the handle and is a normal person and incredibly relatable because she can't say full sentences sometimes because she's on camera and freaks out. I like that. She's a human being.

I love that. In the Iraq such as Asian countries. But she did better because she won. Yeah. Who was that? Wasn't that Miss South Carolina or something like that? Miss Teen South Carolina. Yeah. Who was that? Wasn't that Miss South Carolina or something like that? Miss Teen South Carolina. Yeah.

2007. She was able to, such as, forever talk about, I don't know. For the Iraq. It was a question about education. It was like, wow. Wasn't she referencing a map? Yeah, it was a sad answer. Furthermore, children should eat everywhere.

In the Asian countries. Yes. Such as. Well, let's talk about other women role models. Children should eat everywhere. In the Asian countries. Yes. Such as. Well, let's talk about other women role models. This is actually a woman. Who are doing it. Yeah, who are doing it.

Megan Rapinoe. Yeah. Captain of the U.S. Women's National Team and just a full-on athletic icon. Yeah. She's done it all, man. Yeah. She's won gold medals, fucking World Cups, everything. And she's also notably one of the first, I think actually the first white person to kneel

during the national anthem after Colin Kaepernick. There was a football player who did it in 2017, but I think Megan Rapinoe did it in 2016. But anyway, the reason we're bringing her up is because she recently did an interview with Yahoo Sports because the Women's World Cup is happening in France. And she's basically like, I will not be standing for the anthem. I think she says she had an awakening during the 2016 election

about just sort of the injustice and inequality in America. Well, I'm glad you had that awakening then. But she goes on to say, I feel like it's kind of defiance in and of itself just to be who I am and wear the jersey and represent it because I'm talented. I'm as talented as I am. I get to be here. You don't get to tell me I can be here or not. So it's kind of a good F you to any sort of inequality or bad sentiments that the administration might have towards people who don't look exactly like them. And then she said, I'll probably never put my

hand over my heart. I'll probably never sing the national anthem again. So yeah, making a statement. And when you, again, for people who are like i just don't know why they are so why do they have to disrespect the anthem well it's not about disrespecting the anthem or the troops it's about bringing awareness to the kinds of injustices that are happening in this country on a daily basis case in point on monday uh an unarmed woman of color was shot five times and killed at an apartment complex. And there's really disturbing video of it. And we don't have to get into it.

You know, the headlines are saying that she was yelling that she was pregnant. But her family members actually said she was having mental health issues and was not pregnant. And the story is something to do with this. The officer tried to arrest her because she had arrest warrants or something. And they say that a struggle ensued that his taser was somehow rested away from him and she was trying to use it on him and then he stood up and shot her five times uh what i mean despite not knowing really what is going on aside from just hearing things and seeing a bit of the video one thing is very clear is like uh this woman's death was clearly avoidable. Oh my God.

I just, the gun, the gun situation in this country is just like, why? Why do cops even need to,

if we just like, ban guns and then even take guns away from cops and then give them like, not like batons or any better

because you can beat the shit out of anyone. But I'm just saying. Well, yeah, unfortunately, we're in a country where the Pandora's box with firearms has been fully blown open. Shooting someone five times? Yeah. And again, like when you even look at just how it goes down, I can't imagine. I mean, look, if you didn't have a gun, how else would you approach that?

Could he have ran away or something called for backup you know done whatever but it seems like there's just a lack of training or just an overuse of deadly force a lack of training and a lack of like communication skills that are being implemented when people get trained that being said i have no idea i have never trained to be a cop obviously well i think there's multiple systemic failures on every level around this. Like this woman had mental health issues and who knows if she was getting the kind of support she needed. We have a police force that is always willing to use deadly force against people of color. And it's just there's a lot of tragedy wrapped into that.

So when you look at sort of why people kneel you have to look at situations like this where we have many many avoidable deaths especially when it comes to people of colors interaction with law enforcement yeah so i'm also just wondering and i don't just like mental health and mental fitness checking someone once when they're entering into a job like that that is so challenging and difficult is not enough. You need to be evaluating people and where they're at continuously.

Continuously, yeah. Yeah. Because I'm sure you, and for police officers too, I'm sure many are in situations that are life-threatening. 100%. But then you have to then, again,

kind of check where people are at. Are you now more skittish? Are you more likely to use deadly force in an inappropriate manner because of other things? Are you fed a media diet where you look at black and brown people as predatory? There's so many things that feed into that. And these are issues that are just not really addressed in a meaningful way. They need a baseline test, like whatever they do to the Blade Runners in that movie. Like they're just every time they come in, they're like, OK, let's make sure you're not completely fucked up.

I just want all firearms to get taken away and shot into space and never return. Yeah, I don't unfortunately think that's an option. That's not an option in this country at all. I think we'd sooner have our own planet explode from pollution. I think we'd sooner rather ship everyone on the planet out to outer space than have that happen. Let's talk about Don Jr. Real quick.

Real quick. He does not give a fuck about laws no wait why should he uh yeah i mean there you go the congress is not willing to check anybody well look he got a fucking subpoena uh to go testify in front of the senate intelligence committee uh and this this has been something that has been going on apparently since december right like richard burr who's the chairperson was saying hey you need to come in Like we'd like to talk about, talked about your prior statements, things like that. He said, okay, I'll come in and dragged on and dragged on. Then the Mueller report came out and it made things very clear that, Oh shit, maybe if he

comes back, he's going to have to clear up some of this shit that is very different than what he told the Senate prior to the Mueller report coming out. So first, you know, they were just requesting an interview and he just did not comply. So they said, well, we have no choice but to subpoena you to come in and testify. And then it just, he just got a bunch of terrible advice from other Republicans. Like Lindsey Graham is like, look, mama's going to make it right. You don't have to go to school today. Just don't fucking, just say, fuck you. You know, like, don't worry. Or just go in there and plead the fifth and then you're good. And then like Rand Paul was like, well, we need to have a vote on what the intelligence committee did to subpoena. Can we do that?

Or then even then he just was suggesting they just want him to go in there. So he'll say different things and find discrepancies in his testimony. Yeah, because he's fucking lying. Right. things and find discrepancies in his testimony. Yeah, because he's fucking lying. Right. And the main points really are in the Mueller report was that, you know, Don Jr. said he was only peripherally aware that there was some kind of Moscow Trump Tower deal happening.

And then it shows he was quite involved in understanding that was happening. And also like his signatures on some of the hush money checks that were sent out. So, yeah, some explaining to do. Signs a lot of stuff, man. Signs a explaining to do. Signs a lot of stuff, man. Signs a lot of stuff. Signs a lot of stuff, man. I don't know what comes across my desk, man. He's a very, very busy guy.

I mean, he's- That might have been a stamp my assistant used. Right. I don't know. I would love to just kick him so hard in the balls. Wouldn't that be so fun? I would like to watch that. I would watch that.

Yeah. Right? I would watch a line of people yeah just come deliver the wild vinitary he's such a little shit yeah no he totally is and it's when you think of how smug he is because you can almost tell he's like dude i'll fuck around as much as i can because my dad will have a fit and other people are so basically locked in with him as as the president, they have no choice but to defend me.

Yeah, he is very smug. Yeah. I would just like to have him publicly have to listen to everything his dad has ever said about him in private. Right. And just watch that. Like Clockwork Orange, like Ludovico type treatment. Yeah, because his dad hates him.

Right. And he used to hate his dad until he had to, you know, pretend they were family. He washed himself into liking him when his dad started becoming. Who liked, of all of his kids, who liked him? Ivanka? Ivanka. Ivanka knew that it was a good branding move for her

or thought that it was a good branding move. Yeah, yeah. And so it was like kind of team Trump from Jump Street. But yeah, it seems like- Like did Eric like him? I don't know. I don't know much about Eric. I just know Don.

No one knows much about him. I know. People who went to college with Don Jr. say he was- Party animal. Party animal, but- Peepy animal. Right.

Did Don Jr. also go to Penn? Yes, and couldn't stop from pissing himself, but also openly hated his dad. Allegedly. Yeah, but I've heard it from enough places now.

It's confirmed. We're confirming it. You heard it here first. Don hates his dad. Branded. Oh, and what would you know, breaking news, because this is what happens when we talk about the news,

it looks like Donald Trump Jr. has reached a deal to sit down with the Senate Intelligence Committee. So ignore everything you said except for the part that he is a liar. What did they decide?

It says the meeting with committee members will likely last between two and four hours while limited to a handful of topics. I mean, they really only need to talk about three things probably to get him to give up the ghost. So it was a negotiation that was ongoing. It must have been. But I think him out there saying, I will ignore a subpoena from the Senate was not a good look. But apparently what I'm also reading is that his legal team, Trump Jr.'s legal team, was preparing a letter that would say that he would not participate in their line of questioning. So something happened. And it's not just the force of this podcast getting him to wake up.

Maybe he got legal advice that wasn't just his dick and the internet. Like him just being like, i don't i'll fucking ignore everything can't mess with me a dangerous combination yeah all right let's take one more quick break and we'll be right back definitely caruana galizia was a maltaltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.

Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Prudente. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like,

how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take. Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.

I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two

supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection

of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her.

What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angelese on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast and we're back and uh so somebody put together sort of a super cut on the internet. Greta, do you watch Game of Thrones? I have to be honest with you guys right now.

I don't really. You don't actually have to be honest. You can lie, but. I don't. That's fine. I mean, I watched like, my boyfriend watches it. So I watch, you know, I'll like pop in and be like. You hear half of this in the background. Yeah, and then like I'm that annoying person

that's asking a bunch of questions and he's like can you please leave and I'm like okay fine where is this where is this I love

I love the dink I love Peter Dinklage yeah a lot dink daddy yeah I love him I love Amelia Clark I think she's like great

and I love the hot guy that plays the prince or whatever yeah that's great yeah what's love the hot guy that plays the prince or whatever. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. What's his name? Which one?

The Night King. Yeah, who's that? No, no. Talking about Kit Harington? Yeah, Kit Harington. Yeah, yeah. Jon Snow. There he is. Yeah, there you go.

Wow, look at you. Oh, mega fan over here. Well, you know, we try to be a sponge. Yeah, right? And then the tiny one that's like an assassin. Yeah. Arya. Yeah. You like all the right characters. Yeah, right? And then the tiny one that's like an assassin. Yeah. Arya. Yeah.

You like all the right characters. Yeah. So, you know, as evidence that they are right to be unhappy with the direction that this season of Game of Thrones. Oh, well, I'm up on this T. I'm up on this, all of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm up on this Twitter stuff. Oh, yes. And I'm up on this Twitter stuff.

Oh, yes. So they put together a super cut that would lead you to believe that the cast of Game of Thrones is basically also just not feeling this season whatsoever. Maybe signaling to people prior to it coming out to like, yeah, we're stoked about this season. It was like a bunch of really unenthusiastic responses. Yeah. So we wanted to play some of the audio from that. Wait, so this is interviews, like press interviews with the actors. There's like red carpet Q&As of a lot of people not giving. This isn't like non-passionate performances.

This is like in real life yeah this is them they themselves being like what's tell us we gotta ask about the news you know breathless reporters

being like in one word how would you describe the last episode so here we go have you shot your final scenes yet and are you

happy with how things ended so this is Amelia she didn't say yes Daenerys best Best season ever! So that's Amelia Clarke. Without telling us anything, because I know you can, are you all happy with the way you think, with the outcome of the show?

I'm moving the world now. Personally. They're like all looking at each other like, you want to take this one? Right. It's a little bit disassembled. It's a little bit kind of like... Well, that was totally what season seven was all about, wasn't it? They're like all looking at each other like, you want to take this one? Right. It's a little bit kind of like... Well, that was totally what season seven was all about, wasn't it?

Yeah. Exactly. Character development. Love it all in. Story. So they're talking shit about lack of character development in season seven. I really need to shut up. You're brave.

Oh my God. That was brave. But no, but that's what it felt like. Joe's not going to be in Star Wars. I couldn't let you go without asking you a little question about Game of Thrones. If you could describe the season finale of Game of Thrones in one word, how would you describe it? Disappointing. Disappointing?

No, epic. I don't know. One of those ones. It's terrifying down there. we're in a crypt nobody thought of that he's bringing all the dead people back to life and they put the women and children in a crypt with all the dead people so brah tyrian is smart but i guess not that smart so so i don't know if that was a shot at the writing there he's like i'm probably yeah it has to be because it's not like he just said yeah and that's where tyrian will tell everybody to any anyway spoiler alert i'm not sure this changes how i feel about it uh it's intriguing to me to think that the cast was basically kind of in a light revolt while the season was being

filmed right um and this also puts we we talked before about how after like episode two uh kid harrington was basically like anyone who doesn't like the season can go fuck themselves and we were like whoa whoa whoa whoa like nobody there was like very light criticism at that point it wasn't a thing that it wasn't a very controversial moment so he really seemed to be. But I guess off the heels of him saying something like, what's the last episode? Like, disappointing.

Yes. You should come back with like, hey, fuck you guys if you don't like it, man. I love these people. I feel like that job in particular is so stressful. And it's so much time. It's such grueling work. The writing or the actors? Both.

It's just such an intense show to be on and to shoot and like and i would imagine that after eight seasons of it if you're an actor on it you're kind of just like i don't know it's yeah it is what it is right yeah this show is so crazy to shoot it's also there it's crazy to think that there are actors in the show that have storylines that like coincide with each other, but they're never on set together and they never act together. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, totally. And then like someone's shooting in like South America, another person's shooting in Ireland, another person's shooting in New Zealand. And it's just like such an intense show. Yeah. I mean, the most clearly negative response, I think, came from Emilia Clarke when they were like, you kind of have to see it.

But they're like, are you happy with how it ends? And she like kind of freezes and like does a fake smile and laughs and then goes, best season ever. Well, they kind of fucked her. Am I allowed to say the F word? Yeah. I was like, they kind of fucked her character over. Right. So that's the thing.

So she was playing, I don't know, that's what I've been reading. Spoiler maybe. Oh, sorry. Well, I don't know. Whatever. But that's what the internet is saying. That's what the internet is saying

and the internet is an interesting place, as we've realized. I mean, it's a garbage can and also a giant brain. i don't garbage brain you know it's a garbage brain so i think this is a unique problem that happens like i noticed this happening towards the end of breaking bad because brian cranston kept talking about how because he spent so much time as walter white he found himself identifying with him and wanting good things to happen for him. And, you know, just basically-

Oh, because everything felt personal. Right, because everything felt personal. He had spent so much time and like really embodied that character. And I think it actually affected the way that they ended that series. I think that's why the last episode is like this sort of heroic thing

where Walter White gets everything that he wanted, is that I think Bryan Cranston had more power than the showrunner Vince Gilligan by the end, or at least they were like, you know, neck and neck. And Vince Gilligan was like, fine, fuck it. Like, we'll end this show this way. And then he immediately rebooted the series without Brian Cranston, like in better call Saul. He was like, I want to keep making the show just without the dude. Is that show still on television?

Better call Saul. Yeah. Yeah. It's I, I don't think they've done a series finale yet, but yeah. So it just seems like, I don't know.

This seems to be the opposite situation where the writers had a little bit more say or were not kind of interacting and taking feedback from the actors. And the actors are like, what the fuck? Right. I get how that's shitty, though. You have poured so much of your professional life and first half of those actors their adult lives into these characters and then to just be like oh cool so you're just

killing me like this or like this is how it's gonna end or then fans will come up to you as if you were the person who decided what that character was like hey why the fuck

did you do that Jon Snow and it's like what I don't know the room consists of 12 people making decisions over a long period of time. Yeah, no, totally.

I'm interested to see what those books are going to be like after. Right. Because he's still going to be writing books after this Game of Thrones ends, right? He's still working on them. I think. He's been working on them for a while. But he's also admitted it's very hard for him to get it done. Because I think once the show is finished and it's like, okay, that's what they did with it.

And there's not like, you know, he's not being consulted by the showrunners that maybe it'll be easier because that will be like a finished product. And he can then be like, okay, here's how I want to derivate from what they did. But right now, I feel now, I feel for him. I feel like that would be an impossible job to write those shows as these other dudes are writing your story in a different direction. It's a dope fuck you because you can be like, this is how the shit should have gone down.

Right. I don't know what the fuck D.B. Weiss and Benioff are on. It's awesome to be able to Once it's done it would be amazing To be able to see All the mistakes another Group of writers Made with it and then be like okay Here's what I'm going to do instead

So maybe it'll be a good tool Does any huge series though like that End the way anybody wants it to Like were people happy with how Harry Potter ended? I don't know. I'm not really a fan. Or with Lord of the Rings? Like you know? Well I think Lord of the Rings

has been settled for so long that people knew how that was going to end. I think Harry Potter and Twilight both had a similar situation to Game of Thrones where there was the internet existed. So this huge giant garbage hive mind was coming up with like,

you know, fan theories that were actually like good ideas. Super producer Dan, uh, DJ Daniel was saying that, you know, there's that saying that, uh,

a million monkeys at typewriters would eventually write Shakespeare. And it's like a million people thinking about the show coming up with different fan theories. One of them is going to be awesome and that one's going to float to the top. And then the writers have to decide not to do that. It might have been the idea they already had or an idea that even they had in their subconscious that they didn't know they were going to take. And then that gets taken away from them. The Twilight one is actually the most interesting one, even though I never watched a single one of those movies that I'll admit to. I watched every single one. Let's talk about it. Wait, so what happened? What do you

mean? So there's a thing where... Shit, now I'm going to forget it. But basically, she has all these different characteristics that don't. Kristen Stewart. Kristen Stewart's character has all these different characteristics that don't make sense. Like the fact that she isn't killed by having sex with, I think, the vampire or something like that. I'm looking at you like I had sex with a vampire last week. But basically, the fan theory was that it was going to turn out that she was secretly a werewolf, I think. And so, ah, fuck. I might be getting this totally wrong.

I just remember that the fan theory behind that was so good. I was like, oh, shit. If that's the way this ends, and it seems like that's the only way she could have been writing it to end, it brought together all these things that didn't actually make sense. But it was such a prominent fan theory by the time she was writing the last book, that even if that idea was going to occur to her, and that's how a lot of things happen, is that you're writing it and then you're like, oh, that was the idea that I was writing towards

the whole time and I didn't even realize it like consciously I feel like that actually happened to the Twilight Rider but she couldn't use it I also there's also the in Harry Potter Neville Longbottom actually being the chosen one and Harry being like a decoy that was like a really cool way to end it that would have like brought all these different themes together about like the importance of duty and like what it not mattering if you're the one or not, because like you believe you are that like would have been really cool. But again, Harry Potter fans came up with it before she did. Right.

And she had to like come out, JK Rowling had to come out and be like, that's a great idea, but that's not the truth. That's a great idea, but Dumbledore's gay. Right. Right.

Right. So I don't know that it's, it's interesting. but Dumbledore's gay. Right, right, right. Whoa, what? But I didn't know that. It's interesting, and it's complicated if you have a million people writing your story ahead of you. When people are so obsessed, and that's kind of the thing. In that montage we played, there is a clip of George R.R. Martin sort of alluding to that. He's like, you know, you could be writing a script, and then suddenly you're saying you're saying, oh, the Butler did it. But then you read a theory on the internet that identifies the thing you're writing. And then suddenly if you want to change gears, all of the, all of the hints you drop sort of narratively become dead ends and things like

that. And suddenly you're left with like this muddled thing because you've abandoned your original plan. And I wasn't sure if that was him taking a shot at the writers also of like, yo, like if that's a good idea, like let's just rock with it. Who cares if the internet figured it out? Yeah. But I guess that's sort of the back and forth between creator and audience. Yeah. It's also crazy when you write a book like JK Rowling, I mean,

this is going to sound so like basic dumb of me to say, but sometimes I'm just like, that's just her brain. Like all of that just came from like her brain, you know what I mean? And then once it gets turned, and the same thing with Game of Thrones, like then once it gets turned into a series

where now we're all watching it, so now we all have one way of thinking about it, whereas when we were reading a book, our imaginations all portrayed differently. Differently, right, yeah. Differently what that was. Yeah. So then you have all of these people

interpreting it in this one way that i think the writing and the way that it's shown on a screen really muddles everything because now it's like oh fuck this is just how it's perceived now right like when people read the harry potter books they're now thinking about daniel radcliffe as harry potter right and emma watson as hermione whatever you know what I'm saying? There's no room for interpretation anymore. Right. That kind of sets things in stone.

So parents, don't allow your children to watch Harry Potter films. Have them read the books first. Or learn to have an imagination. Read Twister before you see the film. Yeah. I mean, that's one of my favorite books. Twister? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Actually, the movie kind of ruins it a little bit. Who wrote Twister? Twister's not a movie. It's not a book, is it? Yeah, it is. It is? Yeah.

Really? I was just joking. I thought that was just based on- No, Twister's a real book. Who wrote it? Twister is by Michael Crichton. Yeah. And Anne Marie Martin.

Yeah. The book? Yes. Jack? That's the original screenplay. No, there's a Tw screenplay no there's another there's a Twister book there's a book called Night of the Twisters

look you know what read Twister don't watch it that's all I have to say read it don't watch read the screenplay don't watch the movie so then did he write it I think he wrote the screenplay

oh look at you, Michael. Rest in peace. R.I.P., man. One of the greats. Twister book summary. How did they make the movie Twister? How did they? I don't know.

Wait, when did Twister the film come out, though? I was just laughing because the idea of it being... And also because my favorite book is actually the novelization of twister it's the novelization that they came out with after the movie where they just oh man remember those books i would always come out one of my favorite books when i was like first learning to read was the novelization of jaws 2 really because you love jaws yeah are you a jaws fan i was a huge jaws fan? I was a huge Jaws fan when I was a kid.

And then they just wrote Jaws 2 as a novel? They just wrote Jaws 2 as a novel and I was like, this is fucking amazing. But it is. I was like,

my mind was blown. I was like, wait, they wrote a book that the movie was based on also? Like, I couldn't get my mind

around it. Yeah, but I, I once, my grandfather was a basketball coach. He was coaching for the last time against Dr. J. It was one of Dr. J's last games, and I skipped that game as a four-year-old to watch Jaws 2 on TV.

And you know what? Fair. Yeah. Fair. That's where I was at, man. Live your truth. Were you presented with a binary choice? Were you like, look, Jack, you can go to Grandpa's game. I's where I was at, man. Live your truth. Were you presented with like a binary choice? Like, look, Jack, you can go to grandpa's game.

I found out it was on TV that night, realized I had to go to the game and played sick to stay home. Wow. What did you do to play sick? I just said that I was sick. You were just like, I don't feel good. Yeah. Malingering, huh?

Yeah. Stayed home. And they just let you stay home alone? Yeah. As a four-year-old? Oh, no, no, no, no. It was like a family reunion. Like all the cousins were there.

Like all the boy cousins were going to the game. I would have loved if they just left you alone. I just got the place to myself. I mean, you're fucking useless, clearly. Weird version of Home Alone. Right. Yeah. Anyways.

Yeah, I love that pitch. Stays home to watch Jaws 2. Yeah. Insanity in twos. On TV with commercials. Yeah. A movie that I've seen, like I have rented multiple times, but got to catch it when it's on TV too, you know?

You got to introduce it to your kids. Yeah. Read the book first. Have them read the book first. Yeah. For sure. The interpretation of the film. Yeah, exactly.

And start them on Jaws 2. They go back. Greta, it's been so fun having you. What start them on Jaws 2. They go back. Greta, it's been so fun having you. What a great guest you've been. Thank you. Where can people find you and follow you? You can follow me on Instagram at Gertie Bird, or you can follow me on Twitter, also at Gertie Bird.

Or you can listen to my podcast, The Worst. Yeah. Yeah. Tell people about your podcast. Gertie Bird is a great handle, by the way. Thank you. It was my podcast, The Worst. Yeah. Yeah. Tell people about your podcast. Birdie Bird is a great handle, by the way. Thank you. It was my nickname as a kid. My podcast, I invite guests on every week

to talk to me about the worst shit in their life. You know, ranges. Sometimes you invite people on and you realize nothing that bad actually happens in their life and that's great. Yeah, it's just like a, it's a good, I love chatting and interviewing people. Like real tragedy in their life and that's great. Right. Yeah, it's just like a, it's a good, I love chatting and interviewing people.

Like real tragedy in their life? It can be. You know, it can be, you can talk to me about something really serious or you can talk to me about the worst like sandwich

you've ever eaten or you can talk to me truly about none of that and we can just talk about, you know, something. Leighton Meester's career. Leighton Meester's career,

exactly. The worst thing in my life is the mismanagement of Leighton Meester's career. Honestly, it's up in my life is the mismanagement of Leighton Meester's career. Honestly, it's up there. That's your episode of your own show. You know,

Nicole Byer is on my podcast this week. Fabulous. Wonderful. So wonderful. Um, and she, yeah, she talks to me about a lot of things.

Okay. Yeah. Everyone should listen to it. Check that one out. Please. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh yeah. Um,

my friend Max Witter tweeted this, uh, morning, and it made me chuckle to myself. And the tweet is, oops, I just lost it. Give me one second to find it again. Okay. Imagine never having to see phone footage of a concert ever again that's amazing that's so weird because mine my tweet is also about concert phone footage yeah what is yours uh well i usually go miles first but one of my tweets was going to be at conan o'brien when we die all the concert footage we've shot on our phones flashes before our eyes.

Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? I was just thinking of the first time I brought a camera phone to a fucking concert. But if I only had like, I don't know, 56 megabytes of fucking memory on the phone. The shit went on two seconds and I was like, yo, look at this blown out speaker footage. Anyway, yes, you can find me out speaker footage. Anyway. Yes. You can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Tweet I like is from Reductress at Reductress.

It's a woman with her arms crossed like this photo. And it says, why I stopped going to therapy and started listening to Lizzo 12 hours a day. I mean, hell yeah. I mean, Lizzo will get you on your shit, on your confidence shit. That's true. I liked that tweet. I mean, Elizabeth gets you on your shit, on your confidence shit. That's true. I liked that phone tweet. I also liked one from Ben Shorth. I rejected joke said, oh, I'm so sorry.

I had no idea this was your Sharona. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page on our website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we wrote out on the house on second date. This track is called So Slow.

It's by this artist, Yuno, Y-U-N-O, from Jacksonville, Florida. And kind of, yeah, very eclectic sound. Another very eclectic track. Yeah, just enjoy. It's got a good vibration to it. Is this one that's going to make my toe shoot up in my boot? It's not like necessarily a toe shooter, but definitely put some honey in your hips.

Whoa. Yeah, I do like some honey in my hips. Bit of honey in there. Bit of honey. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. As mentioned, for more podcasts from iHeartRadio, you can visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. That's going to do it for today.

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