The Daily Zeitgeist - History’s Most Important Event You Never Heard Of 08.24.22

Episode Date: August 24, 2022

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 251 episode 3 of their daily zeitgeist production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it's wednesday august 24th 2022 yeah still 2022 huh yeah still going with that yeah i'm going with that one all right out. You know what day it is? No, I don't. National Maryland Day. Yes, of course. It is National Maryland Day.

Shout out the crabs out there in the Chesapeake Bay. National Peach Pie Day. Love peach pie. National Waffle Day. Peach pie, though. That's actually one of my favorite things. Pretty solid day. Other than the fact that Maryland, I feel like in August probably smells more like low tide than normal. But I'll still give it up for Maryland.

Maryland has some beaches. Shout out to Maryland. And peach pie and waffles. Love it all. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.arien aka i get the feeling my pants are soaked in pee my wife's grossed out by me whoa that is courtesy of christy amaguchi main still just fucking roasting me for riding riding on that ride coming off and my pants being drenched for no apparent reason. I would have noticed if I peed my pants.

Yeah, I know. I would have. We believe you. All right? That's fine. The thing was probably pre-soaked, and it was just bad timing for you. Ride was pre-soaked. Find a new angle.

It was a pre-soaked ride. They pre-soak it so you look like that. It's good marketing for the ride and how scary it is. Find a new angle. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I hit my heel on my leg so painfully. Should I go on without me? Okay, that's Christy.

I'm with you, maning because he just threaded those together and that's a great reference to i think that was a trending episode where i was crossing my leg and errantly hit my heel on my shin bone and almost died it was i've never had such pain go through my heel bone but anyway i'm here i'm good damn that's right that's one thing that i that made me realize i don't have a very sensitive heel bone and maybe there's something wrong with me because that didn't really make sense to me. I still don't fully believe you.

It didn't to me either. It's not like I'm walking around being like, hey, man, you know about my sensitive heels. But it just was scientifically the point where there was barely little meat to protect my heel bone and I just made direct contact with like its weakest point so it reverberated maybe i got a kill these situation

yeah could be could be uh well miles we are thrilled to be joined by a very talented journalist who is the creator executive producer host of the new podcast partition it's neha what's up how are you oh you know we're we're thrilled to have you yeah thrilled to be here i think i'm a couple octaves lower than normal i'm still fighting off i i uh covid last week and then my kid brought home a cold from from cam so it's just a we're we're keeping them rolling we're here we've got rolling illness in the household keeping a couple plates spinning you know nice uh-huh like a next halftime show yeah yeah exactly now where are you coming to us from i'm speaking to you from austin texas hookorns. Yeah, I went to UT. Nailed it. How's Austin? Is it warm? Yes,

but it's been raining. So it's like 81 degrees, but it feels really gross. But I guess I'll take it over like 103. So right. Right. Yeah. A little humidity. Take a little. Yeah. A lot of humidity. Yeah. Our Antelope Valley over here. I don't know if you were talking shit with that 103 comment, but our Antelope Valley, which is pretty close by Los Angeles, is possibly breaking the land speed record or whatever, the hottest temperature ever recorded in the next couple days. So we take pride in that. We've gone around the corner we're like yeah we're that we're the hottest holy how we how high are we talking oh i think it's 108

yeah isn't that a record i think what do you mean they were saying possibly record breaking for the alert probably oh maybe for not like on the surface of the earth type records. Okay. All right. Come on, man. It was just 40 in the UK, bruv. Bruv. My bad. All right, Neha. Well, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we are talking about today. We're talking about Mar-a-Lago Sweatfest.

Just the ongoing circus of reactions. They still talk about spinning plates. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of plates spinning. Different directions, different people. There was a moment yesterday when people were like, Donald Trump Jr. or Donald Trump has chosen to represent himself, maybe, in this situation, which that's never a good sign.

He practically is anyway, because they're like, the lawyers be like, you can't do that legally. He's like, that's what I want to do, though. And they're like the lawyers be like you can't do that legally he's like that's what i want to do though and they're like okay i guess i'll lose my license yeah they they filed a motion that i think a lot of people were speculating seemed like it was written by him but it's just fun to look at his circle as they as they react we're going to talk to you, Neha, about Partition, your show. Great show that talks about a piece of 20th century history, one of the most important events of 20th century history that has been memory-holding a lot of places. Most? Yeah, most places. Yeah. In the West, at least.

We might even talk about McDonald's Play Places. Is that really what they called them, Play Places? Yeah. Pretty vague. But those playgrounds that they used to have connected to McDonald's and still do some places. It just, it smelled like. They're death traps. Yeah.

It smelled like a pea sneezed on a piece of poo inside of McDonald's place. If you can string those sensations together. Sneezed on a poo. Like a pea the vegetable or like however you want to take that man okay or yeah yeah yeah i like your rind was a real person or a being itself yeah the ability to sneeze there's always band-aids i always smell band-aids and in places like that like i don't know i wonder if you just have a thing like so many band-aids or some there like there's a sense memory that like there's like a whole spectrum of sense but one just sticks out to every person in a different

way like yeah like you have that memory of when you're eating peas and it sneezed on a piece of the the pea that you're eating sneezed on a piece of poo yeah exactly right or just smelling band-aids or i just have this thing where i'd be like yo i could smell that sneeze you know that's just like a head smell that's what i was like chicken soup like but like also the inside of a stuffed up head yeah it's not great all right well i feel like neha is politely smiling and nodding along. But we will not only talk about pee sneezing on poo. We will ask you questions such as, Neha, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? So it's my friend's birthday today, and she wants to go to an adult skate night, which I don't think I'll be participating in.

I don't find that to be a successful endeavor for me. But I did want to know if there would be food and if they had a menu. And so I looked at the website and there wasn't a menu, but it did mention a chicken strip basket, which I'm here for. So I'm definitely someone who always needs to look at the menu before going anywhere. I am unfortunately a little bit of a, I'm not going to say picky, but I mean, most people would say picky, but I'm a very non-adventurous eater. So I'm like, I need to make sure I can eat something there. What are like the boundaries of, you know, like I get it.

Chicken strips, that's like nine out of, you know, like I get it. Chicken strips. That's like nine out of 10 people are going to vibe with that. Unless you're like, obviously you don't eat meat or something like that. But what are the, what's like a thing too far that your friends are like, damn, man, you won't even eat that. I feel like there might be a lot of those. I just went back. I just went to Mexico City and I was like, I'm not going to eat that.

But I think I just just i don't eat seafood thing i don't like fuck with the ocean things the ocean i'm just like i don't i want to do no fish no seafood no no seafood yeah okay and i think it's just like a lot of things i didn't grow up with like meatloaf and like green beans like i just like never grew up with that stuff and i don't really see the appeal of eating them so like i don't eat that i'm trying to think what else i'm sure there's a bunch of things that people are like could name like 10 things off a list sure sure you fuck with pizza of course okay all right okay i don't know some people that's always that's always like the sign of the pickiest of eaters

well i will say i think part of this is my mom's fault because my mom doesn't eat cheese she doesn't like cheese which i think is crazy but even people who don't like cheese eat pizza and she doesn't eat pizza so yeah so it's her fault wait what's adult skate night that just means no kids allowed yeah yeah okay i was like when you're like that's not an endeavor that i'm like wait no i know? No, I'm not quite that adventurous. Is it ice skates or roller skates? Ice or roller? I can't.

We had like a date dash thing in college where we went to the roller skating rink. And I'm like, I can't do this. I don't have any balance skills. I'm like hovering by the rail. I'm just like, I don't know. Yeah, just you're pulling yourself along by the rail. I'm just like, I don't know. Yeah. Just pulling yourself along the side rail. Yes,

exactly. I'm just like, I'm going to be in the stands with my chicken strips and take some pictures. And just for your information, Miles is hovering over this subject because he is like a sneaky good skater. Like he goes to adult skate nights weekly and just, it's like, it's like a Rajon Rondo situation

where suddenly, like, he just pulls up and everyone's like, whoa. They call me Mr. Flair. I did not see that for him. When I pull up.

Because I have a sequined jumpsuit I wear and I'm just bounce, rock, and skate. I love, I used to play ice hockey, so I used to skate a lot. So whenever there's like weird opportunities,

like someone's like, roller rink party. And they're like, why is this asshole doing spins? Yeah. You're like that person at karaoke who's like, oh, Like someone's like roller rink party. And they're like, why is this asshole doing spins? You're like that person at karaoke who's like, oh, I'm not a good singer. And then like says some like crazy like Celine Dion stuff. Right. No, I'm not good at karaoke, but I love to perform.

So I wear it out. Like, you know, if you're going to karaoke with me, the first song I sing is Montel Jordan. This is how we do it. Uh-huh. And just kick. But set the tone right there. Solid choice. There you go. Great choice.

Oh, yeah. And you do put the finger to the ear like you got a little earpiece. In-ear monitor. When you're hitting the. Exactly. If you're an OJ Mac or a wannabe player. You know what I mean? You know, you got to do that.

What is something you think is overrated now? I thought about this question a lot because I'm like i feel like no matter what i'm gonna say i'm i'm gonna get in trouble do it but i feel like i've already gotten trolled for this quite enough times the good news is this show does not matter it is a great podcast so you can go nuts okay so i'm gonna say something controversial and'm going to say something I think is overrated is the movie Blade Runner. Wow. I've actually heard this a couple times in the not too distant past. I feel like there is a Blade Runner backlash. It's not good.

I mean, you can talk about it being a technical marvel and like all these things. But I'm like, if you're talking about like narrative storytelling i'm like it's not there that's not too hot of a take but i like i like it i don't know about this one everybody clear out i think it is for some people i have like a friend who anytime they see someone's talking shit about blade runner like when someone on twitter is like what movie do you think you don't like that's like lauded or something and someone's like shit about Blade Runner. Like when someone on Twitter is like, what movie do you think you don't like? That's like lauded or something. And someone's like, Blade Runner, he like sends it to me. And he was like, I'm upset. And I'm like, it's not a good movie. So I know you were looking for support. I know I was like, I said, and I'm just like, dude, they're gonna love this.

But particularly was I had it. I think it was hinge like the dating app that was i can't remember how exactly the question was worded but it was like an unpopular opinion you have or something and i had put like blade runners not a good film and of course like some guy who has like feminist in his profile like matched with me just to tell me that i was wrong. I'm doing this because I'm a feminist and I want you to avoid the embarrassment of having that take. So I have to explain to you why you're wrong. Did you see Blade Runner 20 whatever? 49? Yeah. No, I didn't i saw blade runner i think the final cut like two or three years ago i think i think maybe summer 2019 there's a theater in austin called the paramount and like every year they have like a summer classic film series and so they played blade runner and i'm like okay it's

gonna be the first time i'm gonna watch it it's gonna be in a theater it's gonna be like the like the cut that everyone's like this is the best one and then i was like no this isn't for me so i think that's like always in my mind now yeah the i think my appreciation for the original blade runner is hurt by having seen blade runner 2049 because i think it is also somewhat boring, also a technical marvel, and just, like, all the things that are beautiful about the original Blade Runner are, like, advanced by Blade Runner 2049 in some ways.

Again, I am getting on this island with you, and I know it is about to get bombed, but I'm okay with that. Right. I agree. Blade Runner blade runner is like one of those movies was important and like it brought in a lot of like cool synth vibes into like soundtracks and uh created a very cool aesthetic but watching it now it is a john belushi situation for me where i'm like, I appreciate what he did and we wouldn't have Chris Farley without John Belushi, but it doesn't,

it doesn't work for me now when I watch it. Find a new angle. That that's my, that's my general vibe is find a new angle. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Also like,

can a replicant consent anyway? You know, it's like, that's the other, that's the thing I see people argue about all the time. Like kind of a weird litmus test for people where they're like, well, you know it's like that's the other that's a thing i see people argue about all the time like kind of a weird litmus test for people where they're like well you know what is consent if they're like a fake being and i'm like this is so weird that this is a conversation you want to have like up front about the film blade runner but okay also shout out to art house theaters like that

just will show an old ass movie like every once in a while. I think that's we have a lot of them in L.A. and like Austin. It makes sense to that. They're there. I went to the town I grew up in, Wheeling, West Virginia, which is much smaller, and went to the place where I went to see my first movie, four in downtown wheeling west virginia and the theater no longer existed but across the street they had turned an old church into like a weird like art house theater and community theater so like they had movie like old classic movies and like you know community theater revivals of of old plays it was it was pretty

dope shout out sounds cool do they have like stained glass still like yeah yeah it looked like a straight yeah it was very cool what is something you think is underrated well this is like loosely related to a tweet that had stuck with me and it has to do with like the like discovery hbo max stuff that's happening and you know every day they're just like these shows have disappeared from hbo and it's like a lot of shows i never got the chance to watch because i program films for a few festivals so from september to april that's like all i'm doing is watching films like submissions and stuff and so i'm really behind on tv like i just watched squid game like three months ago and i was like there's a show i really like called starstruck

on hbmx i don't know it's so good it's so funny and it's been picked up for a third season but now i'm like will it still be there because it's a max original and i think the max originals are kind of all in question right now and i feel like it's a show that a And I think the Max originals are kind of all in question right now. And I feel like it's a show that a lot of people don't talk about or know about. And just really funny, charming, well written. You got some South Asians in there, which is awesome. It's just really fun. And I like that it's a kind of a slice of life show, because I think I feel like in a lot of movies and tv like if there's not like an explosion or a car chase they're just like it's boring whatever but i was like no like this is

really fun and it's cute and um i want more people to watch it so watch starstruck on hbo max and pray that it doesn't leave oh yeah it's also great because the premise is so grounded you know it's like what if this person who works at a movie theater, you know, like then somehow crosses paths with like the biggest action star in the world and they're dating. And watching like the clash of the two worlds. I love like that first episode where like the paparazzi thinks she's the housekeeper. Oh, the cleaner. I love it. They're like, oh, it's just the cleaners.

It's just the cleaners. And she's like, oh, sorry. He's like, hey, no shame in that. Good, honest work, isn't it? And she just, like, takes a bag of, I'm not going to attempt to do her New Zealand accent, but she takes, like, her bag of trash, like, around the corner. She's like, I guess I kind of had to go with it now. Yeah, she's, like, embarrassed to be like, no, I'm, you know what?

I'm the cleaning lady. There we go. And I'm going to go to my job. And then, like, her roommate, kate is so funny too i love that yeah it's so many good characters it's a it's such a good show in that sense and i i have a feeling it'll probably be like one of those hbo max shows that i know they said like the good one or you know the good ones the ones that will make it one that being like full-on hbo shows and i feel like it you know it's it meets that standard for sure i

hope so yeah have you seen it jack yeah yeah we did a streaming corner oh yeah that's right yeah my favorite scene i got it i have to give it up to kate so many times there's that one scene where they go to the premiere and she has like four cocktails in her hands and she goes up to rose matafayo's character and she's like i told them these are for my boyfriend fucking idiots like she's so stoked that she got these free drinks and i'm like i love when you capture that like essence of like people being like yo dude i'm in this like new fancy place and i'm kind of yeah i'm having i'm like you gotta look at for what it's worth yeah oh great show yeah it's it is you will like it like i feel like no no matter who you are if you listen to the show you enjoy it you you will like that show that's like

i feel like what one of the most straight down the middle should be more popular than it is great underrated pick now yeah damn i didn't know you like programmed film festivals and shit i can't believe that guy came at you with a with a blade runner like explanation right he probably probably didn't know what he was about to get into maybe yeah i denied one of his submissions i don't want to be like this not but i was like well i studied film and journalism and i work there but that's like besides the point like you're everyone's entitled to their opinion. But yeah, I think the first thing he was like,

is this about the new one? Because if it's not, then this is a bad take or whatever. Wow. Oh my God. Again, y'all don't get so attached to these fucking things that you think that's an attack on you.

If someone doesn't fuck with it, like for real, like step one to becoming an adult is fucking let go of, you know, getting so turnt up if someone doesn't like some shit that you love. All right. Do we want to have this conversation?

I'm going to see Raiders of the Lost Ark at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery. Bring my kids. Just watch it on HBO Max. And it is very good but it is it it's i don't know wildly racist it's very racist and it doesn't hold up in a lot of ways that like i i was i was surprised by i'm very curious to see if my kids enjoy it. The parts that they can see through their hands

because it's also kind of scary. Wait, how old are your kids? Four and six. Oh, God. Taking them to a movie where Nazis' heads get melted off and we're watching it at a cemetery. Well, I hope they don't get too attached

to the monkey character in there. I know. The monkey... I feel like that's what they're going to gravitate towards. Right. The monkey is so cute. Just straight up. Indiana Jones films had me drawing swastikas as a kid. What?

They were in the film all the time. They're in all the time. I'm fucking four years old. I'm'm like i don't have no fucking context i'm like they're the bad guy and i'm like oh that's a shape i can fucking draw like i wasn't good at drawing i'm like fuck i can't get this dog right it's like drawing a slayer album cover for somebody who can't draw too too well it's just like oh the bad guys from indiana jones they really like lean on that swastika, though, man. There is just lots of big old swastikas just flowing everywhere. Everywhere.

In a way that seems like it might be impractical for the Nazis to spend that much time and effort getting just beautiful red flags. What a beautiful swastika flag, Adolf. time and effort getting just beautiful red flags i don't know i mean i think they were they're pretty proud to yeah they were kind of yeah they were real into their design and the nazis but it's a it's a wild movie it's kind of crazy that it is as just like as much of a nailed on classic as as it is because there's a lot of wild shit that happens anyways i can't wait to see what your kids think when they look into the ark of the covenant yeah i will report back just oh my god that's nightmare fuel my four-year-old is

obsessed with death so it's kind of interesting he's just constantly like what happens when you die what's death like you know when he's playing i overhear him being you know killing things or dying or you know so this is gonna be this is gonna be interesting that's a face oh yeah i mean it makes sense to me like and it's not yeah i'm not like oh no like what's happening he's he's dark i remember like that i asked i asked my mom when i was like four or five about death and she was so blunt with me she was like oh yeah everybody's gonna die you're gonna die i'm gonna die your dad's gonna die yeah it's kind of what i'm gonna die and i was just like soon but that's just the process that's just the process and i was like this was too real for me yeah i have a niece who's four who's also very, I don't think she's obsessed with death, but she is very inquisitive.

And I always make the joke that like we can watch Jaws because it's PG. So I'm like, let's watch Jaws. And then my sister's like, no, you need to leave the house. We're not going to do that. That exact conversation has taken place over the last six months between me and my wife. Because my six-year-old is obsessed with sharks. The boy is ready. That's what with sharks. The boy is ready. The boy is ready.

Maybe start off with Shark Week or something. Oh, we've worn out Shark Week. We have watched all the good footage of great white sharks feeding. Breaching. Great white shark feeding frenzy. Right. That is on constant rotation.

I remember also, too too when i asked my dad about death he said go in the bathtub and close your eyes and put your head like your ears below the water like when your head like dunk and then think of how you can close your eyes and think of how not much is going on it's like that's kind of what i was like yeah i would have gone but that's a that's a probably like six i think he just wanted you to leave him alone go in the bathroom for a little bit no my parents had a very like straight up honesty policy with me you know and so and it wasn't really traumatic i mean as a kid i was like okay when i go in the bath next time for like i can't fucking conceptualize that but

then like as i got older and i was like oh float tanks and like sensory deprivation i'm like oh this is what the fuck you're trying to say i did a separate sensory deprivation tank once i it was the closest to time travel i've ever come it was like i went in the lights went down the lights came back up and i guess i fell asleep for 45 minutes but i did not notice that shit at all it was just over so maybe that is what death is anyways let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the mar-a-lago sweat fest that we've been witnessing i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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does feel like they're ascendant and like eventually going to take over the government but at least we get to watch them squirm but in the meantime we can watch them squirm yeah uh yeah they are they're dealing with a lot of problems the first one is dealing with just the optics of trump hoarding sensitive documents like some goofed up smiegel they're in the la times write up about it he was apparently one is describing swatting away government officials and saying that the documents were quote mine um so okay fine uh but no they're mine i like i i felt more like it had more of a children like a child vibe when i heard that story more my precious i mean there's definitely a my precious but he's like no they're mine no they're mine they gave

them to me so then they're mine well ron des DeSantis, he went on Fox and Friends. And, you know, as somebody who a lot of people are keeping their eye on is like being maybe the actual person who's going to be running in 2024 with the Republicans or not. He had a really interesting answer to a question when the host of Fox and Friends said, hey, have you talked to Donald Trump recently? You know, because that's all happening in your state. And I don't, just tell me what you make of this answer. Governor, have you spoken to the former president about it or about anything lately? Well, Brian, to the extent I do have conversations with him, I'm sure DOJ and FBI would leak that to the New York Times. So stay tuned on that.

All right. Damn, he thought that was a good answer. Like, he got real smug looking. And I guess when you're on Fox and Friends, like, they're just going to be like, that's so funny. Is that him saying, like, trying to say, no, I haven't? So he's trying to be coy because he doesn't want to say, no, I haven't spoken to him.

To the extent that i have spoken to him and uh i cannot the new york times would know had i because the doj would leak uh and it he like managed to speak himself into a weird like logic probability cloud where it's like it did and it didn't exist like oh right like a very like a cousin greg type answer from yes yeah yeah exactly i mean he's smart yeah he's smart then there was this other time uh the jared kushner goes on and asked a pretty straightforward question you know why why would president trump have all these documents? And oh, my my man does a real good job again of just being like, I don't really know that guy anyway. He's asking for a special master and asking for them to stop going through the stuff as they may be right now. The New York Times has got the item today from Maggie Haberman and some of the other reporters that

apparently there were 300 classified documents at Mar-a-Lago over the last year or so. And they, you know, they think they've gotten them all by now. Why would the former president have that many classified things at Mar-a-Lago? So I'm not familiar with what exactly the contents were. But what I'll just say from my personal experience is that uh again in the campaign in the transition we had a very innocent meeting with uh the russian ambassador goes on word salad this has happened before they think something we did something bad and it turns out it wasn't but also i don't really know him or associate with him that much so let's not don't associate with me he definitely has a hand coach but like somebody's coaching him on

what to do with his hands yeah maybe in an earwig so that that is the closest i've ever come to identifying with jared kushner because my my hand coach we're making progress but i'm still not there i'm still not natural quite yet he also looks he really looks like he's like aging backwards into a little boy or a dummy of a little boy it's very very yeah he feels like the main character of like a contained thriller about like a doll that you know is like fucking everyone's life up thriller yeah it's because it's all taking place in one house you know they're big right now contained thrillers are fucking huge yeah and because dolls can't run very fast oh yeah specific that's good but that was donald trump's son-in-law what about his real sons his birth sons his real children eric is chill is not

a word i would use to describe these children chill is no no absolutely not. But Eric Trump is doing the same thing he's been doing, which is lying his ass off about how much energy is out there and how people are constantly coming up to him about how fucked up this are doing to your family. Your father has to go out there. You have our vote. You have our entire family's vote. You've got our entire street's vote. Everybody I know wants them to run again. They've really pissed off everybody, Rob. People know exactly what this is, and that's a weaponization. Oh, yeah, the DOJ or whatever they're going to say.

So, yes, the energy out there is so it's so amazing dude you won't believe it and actually you should vote for us which right maybe soft pitch that uh you know this he's not in terrible terrible trouble and oh we gotta round out the the defense from the children from old don jr yeah this is the one that i had heard about dude he he's fucking he's he's out here on some next level like stand-up he's like bill hicks now i think he's just like blowing up and then getting on stage and just doing wacky stand-up so here's donald trump jr talking saying like yeah it's a good thing my dad has classified documents, essentially. Donald Trump has the nuclear codes! In the linen closet at Mar-a-Lago!

What? This is straight standard. By the way, for the record, I'd say that if Donald Trump actually still had the nuclear codes, it'd probably be good. Trump actually still had the nuclear codes, it'd probably be good. Our enemies might actually be like, okay, maybe let's not mess with them. Unlike when they look at Joe Biden and they say, you know what, we should attack now. What does he think the nuclear... Nevermind, doesn't matter. So Donald Trump can watch a nuclear strike at any moment. Truly a child's understanding of of how how this works yeah again like i don't want to lean too much on the visuals but his body language

is like suggests he's been taking acting lessons of like how to play his father in a like straight to dvd yeah he's doing did you notice like he's doing the handout yeah and there's like a lean yeah yeah it's you know could just be genetic it could be effortless uh neha what did you think about his delivery you know that's like a just someone who watches people perform do you feel completely uncomfortable by it yes like i was on my phone and then i saw that clip and i was like no yeah this is so weird it's it i think it's the whole situation like you see that there there's there's just this like weird flailing to all of this shit right like him getting up there it really i don't know what he thought he was

doing up there and it's funny you brought up chris farley because i was watching this like dark side of comedy documentary about chris farley and one of the his cast mates was talking about like when you're getting when you're getting fucked up and doing comedy it's really hard to connect with your audience like when you're fucked up and donald trump jr like looked like an example of someone's like i'm just gonna get in my own world and go out there with a mic in my hand and maybe people will laugh along and if not yeah whatever you're just gonna watch me fucking flat just watch me like i'm a i'm a wind-up toy that's what yeah yeah i'm real wound up this goes along too with you know the his lawyers are screwing up we've already talked about how like laura ingram was like hey maybe you should do like lawyer stuff and like file motions which they did way too little too late.

And all along with this going on, there's like this other issue that the Republicans are talking about, which is them not being so sure about a red wave this midterm, this November, more of like a red sneeze, if maybe. And we'd had Mitch McConnell saying, you know, because of candidate quality, like maybe we need to readjust our expectations. Meanwhile, Laura Ingraham is doing this thing where she's like almost begging the viewers to be like, they're not that bad, guys. Just let's just pretend for a little bit that they're really good, huh? So maybe this will work. So instead of complaining about our candidates or kind of being wishy-washy on them, we should recognize that this group is actually great.

She's talking about Dr. Oz and Herschel Walker. Okay. This is like in response to like these people getting kind of like outmaneuvered in their races and everyone being like, what's going on here? Our nominees, with a few exceptions, like Colorado, are political newcomers. They haven't had a lot of experience, but that's OK. They're out there fighting for the average person. They should be respected for getting in the ring. OK, so it's like a for effort. Let's vote for him. Yeah, I think there's just there's

clearly there's a lack of energy that they're I'm sure the consultant class and polling class is noticing. And they're like, I don't know, maybe have Laura Ingram scream at them to vote for these people who are not great at all? Yeah, I don't know. It'll be interesting to see. I still, I just have a pit in my stomach that, like, this is, again, the polling class making it seem like what what they read in the washington post and shit is is actually like relevant and also like their inability to poll republicans effectively like

i don't know well we'll see i just i'm very pessimistic about america call me crazy you absolutely should be but i think there's just there is something to seeing when someone is actually confident versus one desperately trying to project it to. Yeah, it is fun to watch. That's what I'm picking up on. I'm like, you don't sound too confident. And that's all I can say about that. One more thing since we are on this. They are just learning this stuff as they go you guys

this is actually like really good imagine if like you just went out and tried to play nba basketball like it would be hard right like you'd get you'd get beat pretty bad and these guys are kind of holding their own out there so i think we just give them give them some respect they're trying huh all right get out there. And then finally, just because we are talking about campaigns and we talked about 80s films like Jaws and Indiana Jones just now, Ron DeSantis,

he's got a new ad and on that same interview when he went on Fox and Friends, they were like, we gotta talk about your ad. And he did like a take on fucking Top Gun, but it was just, your ad and it's he did like a take on fucking top gun but it was just this is this is when it's interesting right because when he goes on fox i also see the network also trying to get viewers comfortable with the idea of him being like one of the biggest

figures in the party too so this is just a little bit of uh patting on the back from fox to ronda santos for his so like his sick ass Top Gun ad that he made. And now you have a new ad based on the very popular movie Top Gun channeling your inner maverick. Let's take a look and get your response. Don't fire less fired upon, but when they fire, you fire back with overwhelming force. Does it say that in the bill bill i'm asking you to tell me what's in the bill how did you come up with that idea for for that ad well i think it was something that my wife initially thought about because you talk about the dog fighting and it's like okay well what is our dog fighting it's dealing with corporate press and always making sure that we stand our ground anyway so stand your ground no policy there sparring with uh cnn is similar to being a air

force a decorated air force uh military hero i think we can all agree on that top gov top gov why would i be carrying this helmet if I wasn't a pilot walking near jets? Okay. Well, he's got my boat. I'm in. Yeah. That is pretty wild. I do feel like that is a new, like that used to be a big thing of like, no, no false that

like you can't steal valor, but wearing a military uniform that you didn't actually wear but i guess i guess we are far beyond that point it's just interesting how far how far from uh the the original republican party these guys have gone yeah oh you know what he was in the navy he was in the navy jack oh man I feel like a fucking jerk. Yep. I'm sorry, Ron. So hold that L, Jack. I'm done. Yep. Yeah, this episode's over.

Cut it. Cut the tape. Yeah, I don't know. I would say it's going to be interesting, but I just feel like nothing's going to get done about Trump. He's going to roll to victory in the primary. And then, I don't know. I got a bad feeling.

That's where I'm at. I don't have a bad feeling. I'm waiting to have more things to give me a bad feeling. I still run at a general pace of ambivalence. And I'm like, I don't know. I'm fucking going either fucking way. But I'm more like, oh, wow, there's a lot of data to sift through right now. I like that. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk to Neha about partition.

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And it basically started when Britain was like, hey, we don't have any money. We can't control India anymore. So we're going to give India independence. And so within these conversations, like other politicians came about. And so they were like, well, if India is going to have independence, like other people would want a separate country that's Muslim majority. And, you know, all of that is all very complicated. And there's like a lot of dates and documents and things like that. But basically, it was a super rest decision. And a lot of the decisions that were made were not thought of with like, what is best for the people who are living

here? But what can we do to get unscathed? And when I mean we, I mean the British. And they just really messed it up in a lot of ways. You know, the person that they chose to make the boundary line was a lawyer who had never been to India before, had five weeks to separate the country, never visited communities. And, like I said, he had five weeks. And, you know, naturally, said, he had five weeks and, you know, naturally he burned the documents before he left and then got an award when he came back. So, yeah, so that happened. And it's and a lot of the history that isah, who's the founder of Pakistan, Jawaharlal Nehru, who's prime minister of India. And like, all that's fine. But it's also like, that's not the story I want to hear about. And that's basically the stories that we have. And it, and because of this decision, you know, like independence was announced. And it's's called like it happened at midnight. So August 14th would be Pakistan Independence Day and August 15th would be India's.

And it was the 75th anniversary last week. And but the boundary line was announced two days after independence. So people didn't know where they were supposed to go or like what's happening. So there was all this confusion and, and like all this kind of like panic. And so because of where those boundary lines are, a lot of people found themselves like in the wrong part of the country. They're like, I'm a Muslim and I'm in a Hindu majority area. I need to move. I'm an Indian. I'm in a Muslim majority area. I need to leave. And there's also other religions there as well, like Sikhs. And I'm

sure many other ones that quite, there's not a lot of research that I've seen that talk about other religions. And so there was like this mass migration, over 14 million people were uprooted, one to two million people died. You can maybe compare it to the Trail of Tears in the United States, something a little similar, another forced migration. And there was just a lot of ensuing violence. And like I said, like the British just got to leave. You know, I'm sure the Muslim and Indian Pakistani politicians, I'm sure, didn't like that this happened. But it's also like, to me, it felt like a lot of personal agendas got

in the way of trying to make a solution and i'm sure there wouldn't be like a perfect solution but i feel like if they actually put in time and effort it would have been a little bit easier i think and maybe not as much bloodshed but yeah that's you know neither here or there but that's basically what happened and it's an event that's really you know, neither here or there. But of nationalism with their prime minister so it's something that really affects everyone of future generations yeah right and it's it's like you're like about the ignorance around it right i grew up you know having an american education you hear like you'll hear maybe one or two things about india maybe one thing about Pakistan. Right. From there, I'm like looking at a map. I'm like, OK, it's like they're right next to each other.

I knew nothing of the partition until, I'm not joking, maybe when we started doing the NextUp thing. Yeah. And I was hearing about what your show was about. And I was like, damn, I mean, I knew that something happened, but that's not that's not something I had access to. And because of just my media diet wasn't something that I ever had the curiosity for because I had no idea how much of a like turbulent, like chaotic moment that was. And it is wild to like you look. We have so many things like this where just depending on your proximity to it, it can be something that is like not even a thing that enters your mind or something that is generational trauma that you have to set out and explore to try and sift through to try and understand yourself better. Yeah, and all of my education was done in Texas, which is a whole nother conversation.

But it's like, that's not really stuff I'm going to hear, you know, it's like, I've spoken to a lot of people when doing the podcast or just having casual conversations. And it's really the thing that they remember is Gandhi being a pacifist, standing up to the British. And it was like a happy ending. But that's not really what happened. And, you know, like you said, you recently found out about it from what you remember from like our conversation from like a year ago. But that's not uncommon. You know, so many people who are my age, like their parents don't talk to them about it. Their grandparents don't talk to them about it. And if

no one talks to them about it, and you're not taught about it in school, like, where are you going to learn this information? And like, yes, like, I obviously knew that Pakistan used to be a part of India. But it wasn't until, you know, a few years ago, where I was like, wow, like this happened, like where I really found out like the really dark history behind it. family learning that they had to flee when like a friend of theirs was like, yeah, you will be killed tomorrow in your home. If you don't, if you don't like move to this new country that didn't exist a week ago and

like packing up, moving to a new place you've never been before. And the border closes behind you. It's just, you know, an amazing story, a horrifying story, like the sort It's just, you know, an amazing story, a horrifying story, like the sort of thing that, you know, really fires the imagination and is like very just hearing the stories in your podcast,

like so vivid and relevant to the world that we're living in now. And yeah, to you guys' point, I mean, it was happening around the same time that we were living in now. And yeah, to you guys' point, I mean, it was happening around the same time that we were learning about the Holocaust and, you know, widely considered one of the most important events of the 20th century. But as you point out, there's no, at least in Western culture,

there's no like Schindler's List. There's no like central kind of definitive narrative. Like it also reminded me of how, you know, the Saudi coalition's atrocities and bombings in Yemen that people ignored while they were worrying about and like putting up signs saying like pray for Ukraine and stuff. It's like, you know, just two parallel atrocities but one yeah gets attention because of white supremacy right and that's i don't i don't like outright kind of say this but i do mention with the podcast i hope that people have a new and better understanding about refugees and immigrants because it's very hard to become a citizen in this country. I became a citizen when I was 25. And I spent all but eight months of my life in

the United States. And, you know, with like Ukraine, there was like, like you said, like this outpouring of support, which is amazing, obviously, they need our help. But that wasn't the case, like when Syrian refugees needed homes, like I don't, I don't think the UK was particularly happy that they were there, you know? So I want people to care about refugees, immigrants, other people who don't look like them, you know? Yeah, right. And I think, I mean, the show's amazing

because it gives you, you know, like you can read about things that have happened in history and they'll affect you in one way. The times when like you can read about the things that have happened in history and they'll affect you in one way. The times when like you hear your grandfather speak or your dad reading his words or your mom, like just hearing people speak like what their memories and experiences are. It's very easy to try and put yourself in that place when you're hearing like

another human beings is very simply talk about like the terrible things they saw amidst trying to figure out what what country they needed to be in or not be in and i think it's like a really powerful part of it is just we we look at so many things like you know just like the idea of this lawyer who drew the who drew the boundaries and knew nothing of this place that he was like splitting up and the idea that like there are people who are making decisions in this such abstract way where it's like hey man you got five weeks to make this new fucking board and then how that translates down to the human level and based on where you are in the decision

making process it's going to affect you in different ways that lawyer he probably doesn't even know like a fraction of how terrible people's existences were because of that. And meanwhile, we see that trickle down to the actual human beings who are now suddenly like, I don't know where I belong suddenly. Yeah. And I think he had an idea because he had written a letter to his nephew saying basically how he was never going to go back and because there's going to be like he he's had a very large sum like this number of millions of people looking for me and quote i don't want them to find me is written down in a letter and he didn't take his like fee for the job and i'm like you're a white lawyer in england like you're fine like this was probably like

like an icing on top of the cake situation for you. That wasn't gonna like make or break your make or break like your life there. But yeah, it's just crazy. And like, I can understand in certain circumstances, how someone who doesn't know anything might be beneficial. But this is literally dividing a country like you have to have knowledge this isn't like hey we need we need like a non-biased opinion on what this outfit whatever like you know like very different yeah yeah when it leads to physical like yeah people disrupting people in physical space that's fucking violence no matter what way you look at it and as benign as you may think the endeavor is to do it without without that consideration yeah you end up in a situation i had no idea where the guy's like yeah i i i have i've up and displaced millions of people who

probably now would want to see me dead yeah yeah you i mean you you just talked about like finding out about it kind of relatively late in life and the the lack of sort of this definitive narrative that you know popularizes the story and like puts it in people's imagination but i i do want to talk about because you you talk about finding out about it at a mall but it was an installation by an academy award-winning filmmaker at a mall which I had never heard of like I didn't know that was that was a a thing but that's what kind of brought it alive yes for you and so it it does feel like I don't know that that was something I found inspiring is that like there's this art and journalistic counterpoint to the active forgetting and the burning of documents by that lawyer.

And your podcast being a great example as well of that counterbalance of inspiration and creation that is know is the opposite of of the forgetting but can you describe the the installation and just that moment of of kind of discovering yeah so because we don't really have like bars and like that kind of nightlife in pakistan or at least like widely known the malls kind of act as like the nightlife there. So they're open really late, like the food court until like 1am. Like you can go shopping at like 11pm, which is awesome. It's really cool. And so like the mall kind of has like a different like epicenter vibe than it does like here. So I think I was, you know, just curious about like what stories they had in the mall. And that's kind of when I stumbled upon this exhibit. And I was familiar with the filmmaker's work. Her name is Charmaine Obejnoy.

She's a two-time Academy Award winner. I believe both of her works can be seen on HBO. One is called Saving Face, which she co-directed about acid attacks. And the second one is called Girl in the River, The Price of Forgiveness, which is about honor killing. So very heavy stuff, but very important. And I saw that she was doing this and I'm like, oh, I want to see this. And I think I just kind of was like, oh, she's doing this. I want to see what it is, but not really grasping like what the exhibit was actually about. Like I knew it was like India and Pakistan. I'm like, okay, that's cool. Whatever. And then like, I go in here and I'm just like, what is this? Like totally just like in shock, you know, like there was, from what I remember, there was like kind of like, maybe not different rooms, but like different sections of things. So there was like some VR stuff. There was objects

that people took with them, you know know like interviews with people and just you know very it was kind of very interactive and you know like my parents I was just watching them go by and it's it was so different because like they're aware of this story because this was like their parents history and then I'm just going here, like, like, like just having like a, you know, like open mouth experience, like, like what's happening. And, and I talk about this in the first episode where they, there's a question where it's like, what would you take with you if you had to leave your home? And, you know, I mentioned that my mom is not like, I'm going to participate. Like, no, she's not like that. Like, you know, she's not going to like, let me write this down. And the fact that she was so moved by the exhibit and

she felt compelled to write something down, which ended up being a picture of her family, to me was like very poignant, very special. And it was really there in the mall food court where I was like asking my parents, like, what is this? Like, can you tell me about it? And like I said, that's very common for people who are my age, because there's still so much to unpack there. And, you know, I actually talked to my mom about it the other day, because I got this review of someone who was just so shocked that I didn't know until I knew. And like, jokingly, I told my I told my mom, like, Oh, this is your fault, like, obviously as a joke. And she was like, no, like, you're right. You know, we never thought about it.

And, you know, like I said, we're immigrants. My parents' main focus when they came to the United States was to survive. Like, we came here with, like, I have a sister. They came here with two kids, eight suitcases. And they were like, how are we going to make this work? And that's, like, the stuff they were dealing with. So I don't think it ever really occurred to them to be like, let me sit you down and talk about partition because it was just like so many other things they were worrying about, you know, but it's like people I've interviewed,

you know, whether they're my age or from a different generation, it's, they're like, I found out with a book I found out cause I took a college course or I saw this seminar or I saw this movie. Like, it's very rare that was, it was like, Oh, my father told me this. And it's, you know, I also think it's like a cultural thing where I feel like we don't really talk about, I'm a sensitive person. So I'm always talking about how I feel. Like most people aren't really most Asian in Asian cultures are not outwardly talking about their feelings and having discussions and like all these kinds of

things. So like we just kind of keep them. Yeah. Unless it's gossip, like no one's interested, you know? So it's like they, they keep those emotions at bay and i've kind of compared

it to the farewell like the lulu wong film which i don't know if you'll have seen but but yeah so the character named aquafina like her grandmother is sick and like her family's like we're not gonna tell her and she's like what you have to tell her um and you know she's like, what? You have to tell her. She has like a terminal diagnosis. Yeah. And I'm like, I was like, this is what that felt like, where it was just like, here's this big part of your history that we just, you know, whether on purpose or not, just never got around to telling you you know yeah yeah that's wild how like i feel like uh relatable just like that concept is if you come from like a diasporic community or just anything where there's generational trauma it's like like i remember doing a book report about the great depression or i had to do a report on the great depression i asked my grandfather who was alive in chicago during the great depression i said what was it like he gave

me the most flowery version of it right and then like wasn't till later on when i was like an adult i was like what like what was it really like and he really had trouble really talking about all of it because it was so fucked up and he's like you know we got we got through it you know it was like there was some bad it was yeah it was really it was bad you know we didn't have a lot and there was a lot of uncertainty but it shows like at times we we don't always have a full understanding of our own history and sometimes it is hindered because of the fucked up shit that people went through yeah and yeah and like it's a whole other process of like, wow, like I have to have the empathy for like my relatives who like not being upset, like this is how could you keep this from me? But also seeing that as like, damn, this is this was the human life that they lived. like struggles yeah right yeah and now how you mentioned like 9-11 happening when you were a child being like part of the story of why you didn't have like the bandwidth to focus on like

that let's let's own own our trauma and you know like that you know you're you're living in a like very white texas suburb and you know just trying to survive like're living in a like very white Texas suburb and, you know, just trying to survive, like even to that degree, like that, I found that to be really, really interesting. Yeah. Like you're, I'm 11 years old, like on the, like, I don't know if we knew for a little bit of time, but I know like when a parent was there to pick up their kid, like there would be like an announcement, like so so come into the principal's office like your mom's here and we just kept hearing a lot of those things and then I think like we finally got the news about 9-11 and then of course like even to this day like when something happens I'm like I hope it's not

Muslim like I hope it's not Muslim who did this whatever right and then it's just like weird because you're 11 years old I literally don't anything. I'm in sixth grade and like people start treating you differently. You know, people have these views of like what is considered good and what's considered bad. And it's like, how are you as a child supposed to reckon with this information? And also, again, like living in the society that I did, like anything that made you different you're supposed to suppress and I was just like I don't really I was like I don't really know anything about my culture I don't really like care to at least at this point like it was more I'm not gonna say embarrassing for me but more just kind of something I had my guard up about. So like something as simple as

like we're in Best Buy, my parents are arguing in Urdu about like a TV and I'm like, I'm not going to be a part of this conversation. Like I'm just going to go over there. Or like the food that your parents pack you for lunch. Like I said, like I wasn't having like, here's like a thing of green beans or whatever. It was like, here is like ethnic food that usually has a very strong smell. So it was like a lot of those things where I'm just like, I don't think I really want to mess with this. And, you know, and I don't think it really was until I moved to Austin and went to UT where a lot of that changed. Well, it's a great podcast. Like I said, it's, you know, doing the work for, I think, a lot of people that that that installation in the mall did did for you.

So everybody should should go check it out and, you know, recommend it and review. It's so I mean, I can't say that enough. It's it's so well done. I was. Yeah. Like everybody absolutely should listen to this. If you have like any inkling of curiosity about it, which you should, because like I said, I, I can own my, my own, like almost near total ignorance about the topic. And that made the listening experience so much more, like I'm so much more absorbed in it. Cause I'm like, I, I need to understand like every single thing you're saying like right now.

And it's told in a really fantastic way. So yeah, congrats for sure. This is a fantastic show. And it's told in a really fantastic way. So yeah, congrats for sure. This is a fantastic show. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, so you can follow me on Twitter at NehaZees13. You can follow me on Instagram at NehaZees. The podcast is 1947Pod on Twitter and Partition Podcast on Instagram. Yeah, yeah. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, so I kind of mentioned earlier, I saw this tweet, and I thought it was really funny. But it was like that meme where like the girls like explaining something to the guy at the concert or whatever, which got tired very quickly. But I thought this was funny. It was by Alison Herman. She's a writer at The the ringer and she said hbo is a premium

cable network hbo max is a streaming service that houses content from many brands including hbo all hbo series stream on hbo max but hbo max series don't air live on hbo both are owned owned by warner brothers discovery which plans to merge hbo max with another streamer and that's where it ends which i think was really i think it was a very like, like, because when people heard about all this, like discovery stuff, and they're just like, what, like, they didn't really know much like when HBO Max was launched, they're like, what is this? Because it just not to be mean, it wasn't marketed very well. And HBO Max is not an appropriate name for what that network was because it does house like things from Turner Classic Movies and other entities of Warner Media. And they're just using it for their brand.

But yeah, it's just really funny to me. And I think people are just trying to figure out people who aren't in like an entertainment film TV industry field are just trying to figure out like what this means. Because I think I saw like today, like a couple of animated shows aren't getting released anymore and it's just like it's just like it's so sad yeah and that's like years of people's lives on the other hand hbo max does both include that it's a you know combination combination of HBO and Cinemax. And also it borrows on the success of Pepsi Max, which was one of the great marketing. Yeah. Just too,

too good. I haven't thought about that. And I don't even know how long. It's like to the max. Yeah. It's not cool anymore, guys. What are we,

what are we doing here? All right. What about Pepsi? What about HBO 2000? Wait a second. extreme hbo to the max that just reminds me of like water guns and how like crazy they got with like here's a super soaker 7000 that's right that reminds me of and i remember being like well what you can kill a pig with it like it goes 7 000 feet right no that's what you say that is what they told you though that was what that was the lesson that i learned was that oh

man i got the super soaker 30 it goes 30 feet but then like this dude got the super the super soaker 100 and you can actually put out a fire down the street with that thing, man. Oh, yeah. They actually use it at slaughterhouses. Yeah. They shoot them out of helicopters during forest fires. Sure. Miles. Yeah. Where can people find you?

And what is the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Check us out on the basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad. Becauseies because we do and we like basketball. And also, if you want to hear me talk about just my favorite reality show, 90 Day Fiance with another immigrant kid, Sophia Alexandra. Check out 420 Day Fiance. That's a fantastic show. Some tweets that I like.

The first one, just to go along with your HBO Max screaming girl in the dude's face at the rave pic. Past guest Kate Hagen actually tweeted something that actually went viral because she was also speaking about the situation with streaming. And her version was, in all caps, obviously, because that's how all these memes are. Streaming only creates the illusion of infinite choice. In fact, our access to films hasn't been this tenuous since the pre-home video era. The average blockbuster carried about three times as many films as are currently streaming on Netflix. Physical media is more important than ever.

Cut. And yes, it is. Another tweet I like is from Adam Sirius at Brow Tweetin tweeted, Me. I need a passport so I can go to Australia. Clerk, have you ever been convicted of a crime? Me.

Is that still necessary? Oh, I saw that. Fantastic. And last one, at Honda CRV, the third tweeted, fuck a breakup. Have you ever realized one of your friends was kind of a terrible person? Yeah. Yeah. That shit is wild.

That's a breakup. Yeah, it yeah just break up with that friend absolutely a couple tweets i've been enjoying massy tweeted the season finale of the rehearsal just fully convinced me that child actors should be illegal and that nathan fielder deserves both jail time and an emmy and i i felt that that that shit made me go hug my kids, man. That was like one of the darkest episodes of television I've seen, period. But also, like, great. I will not be shaking that series anytime soon. It's like a whole new type of, I don't know. I don't even know what to call it.

Janelle Como tweeted, Honestly, human history makes a lot more sense when you remember how many of the major decisions were made by 19-year-olds who drank wine for breakfast. And I don't recommend New Yorker cartoonists very often, but Asher Perlman, who's also a writer for Colbert, tweeted a cartoon that he put up, for Colbert tweeted a cartoon that he put up with, which is a dude leaving a room that is fully engulfed in flames, walking into a room with a fire extinguisher saying, shoot, I know I came in here for a reason. Yeah, I saw that too. That is a good encapsulation of the modern condition.

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Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? I think you're going to like this track from the Moses-Yuffie Trio. They are like a German trio, but they're playing like new jazz kind of hip-hop kind of stuff. So this track, Throwback, does sound like a throwback of some like boom-bap hip-hop, boom-bap, not boom-bap, boom-bap hip-hop. J. Dillyilly might i say uh really nice synthesis synthesizers good drumming bass playing so this is called throwback by moses yuffie trio got the j dilly stamp from gotcha from look they like their little

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