The Daily Zeitgeist - Hollywood Hacked Biden’s Mind, Mariah IS BAAAAACK! 11.02.23

Episode Date: November 2, 2023

In episode 1575, Jack and Miles are joined by musician and host of Movement, Meklit Hadero, to discuss… Joe Biden Isn’t The First President To Create Policies Because Of Movies That Freaked Him Ou...t, Genocidal Rhetoric Is So Mainstream Now, Mariah Carey Ushers In Christmas Season With Another Weird-Ass Video and more! Joe Biden Isn’t The First President To Create Policies Because Of Movies That Freaked Him Out Biden reveals the first time he heard a deepfake of his voice and asks 'when the hell did I say that?' President compares AI to science fiction as new 'czar' Kamala laughs Hollywood Minute: Deep-Fake 'Putin' and 'Biden' rock out with Limp Bizkit Joe Biden Grew More Worried About AI After Watching ‘Mission: Impossible — Dead Reckoning,’ Says White House Deputy Is Donald Trump's Border Wall Policy Based On Half-Remembered Bits Of 'Sicario 2'? How Two Sci-Fi Writers Fueled a U.S. President's Wild Quest to Weaponize Space Reagan and Gorbachev Agreed to Pause the Cold War in Case of an Alien Invasion How Sci-Fi Like WarGames Led to Real Policy During the Reagan Administration Star Wars, all over again Ramaswamy calls for Israel to kill all Hamas leaders in a similar way to the ‘Red Wedding’ in ‘Game of Thrones’ Piers Morgan Confronts Vivek Ramaswamy on ‘Medieval Barbarism’ of His Proposal to Put Hamas Heads on Spikes Mariah Carey Ushers In Christmas Season With Another Weird-Ass Video Mariah Carey Declares 'It's Time' as She's Defrosted for Christmas Mariah Carey goes mega-viral with TikTok video “defrosting” for Christmas Starbucks Holiday Cups and Menu are Back on November 2 LISTEN: Soleil Soleil by Meklit HaderoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Wait, was it just 311? What's going on here? Oh, somewhere in the mix. Somebody came in the dock changed it to 312 this 311 erasure yeah will not stand okay wait are we doing this are we keeping this i think we should keep it okay there's a conspiracy to uh paper over yeah season 311 like it's Like it's the 13th floor elevator. Yeah. Come on. Super producer Victor apparently. I mean,
Starting point is 00:02:09 you know, we're going to have to dig into his anti-311 bias. Anyways. They're from Omaha, I think. Yeah. So who knows when they crossed paths and wronged super producer Victor, but it definitely happened. Anyways, it's season 311, episode 4 of Dirt Nettlies, hey guys!
Starting point is 00:02:28 Hey, production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, November 2nd, 2023. Oh, yeah. This is our first full after Halloween. Yeah. A happy day after Halloween. Yeah. A happy day after Halloween to you. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Or two days, but yes, as we record. You know. Oh, crow flies. What is today? It's National Men Make Dinner Day. Wow. Wow. I love that.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Equality on the way. Just one day. Just one day. Men make dinner today, this first Thursday in November. Then it's National Deviled Egg Day. I'm with that. National Broadcast Traffic Professional Day. Those two are probably tied together a little bit, maybe.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I made deviled eggs. I made deviled eggs as the main course, darling. With a bag salad. And then also, oh, Jack, this one's for you. National Ohio Day and All Souls Day. I know it's All Saints Day and Day of the Dead. Oh, this is apparently about, oh, this is some religious stuff about purgatory. And to that I say, who's to say this isn't purgatory?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Ah, let's get philosophical, shall we? Aha. Aha. And Happy All Souls Day with your spirit. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. It's what it's and it's now or never. These pants won't stay dry forever. I'll just blame the stain on water ice.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's what it's. Urethra like an open highway. I just had to get to the urethra like an open highway. I just had to get to the urethra like an open highway. Oh, wow. Courtesy of La Caroni on the Discord. And I'm thrilled to be joined. By the way, that song, It's My Life. Usually when there's a song that I have to do for an AKA for, I'll go back and listen.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And I'm always like, man that that song actually is really good like there's something about this production like that when i listen to it as a song really stands out and i'm like you know there's some good song right this one no such luck i was like what the fuck is john bon jovi doing with his vocals in this shit he's like he sounds like he's doing like a a joke about like yar voices. It sounds like he's like making fun of the singer of Nickelback. But anyways, we love you, John. We love you. Yanni. Thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Whoa. 311 is the season of the TDZ whoa that's an intentional use of a redundant the
Starting point is 00:05:09 you get the t and tdz is for the and you still did the t the tdz we get it thank you for that giving all respect to the omaha nebr, rock, reggae band 311. Okay, that is you, Wade Duncan. They were not white supremacists whose band names signified KKK. No, they were very clear. They're like, we have nothing. First of all, what the fuck are y'all talking about? I think it was like the room number of their band room in high school.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I think it has something to do with the high school. That's why I remember I was about to go to 311 show and i was like wait i just want to make sure i'm not gonna be around some weird skinhead people but they've been pretty clear like no we're not about this shit ever so please please miss us with all of these readings into the name well miles we are thrilled to be joined by a wildly talented musician. It's always fun to have a wildly talented musician on when I'm singing off-key. John Bon Jovi covers about pissing my pants. Or the mouth trumpet. That was pretty good. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:17 The mouth trumpet intro. You are here with one of the best mouth trumpeteers in these United States. with one of the best mouth trumpeteers in these united states uh wildly talented vocalist songwriter composer whose most recent album was named among the best albums of the year by band camp and the sunday times she's performed on stages all over the world yep now she's here listening to us sing badly she's also the host of a podcast radio series series, and live show called Movement. Please welcome the brilliantly talented MacLean Hedera! MacLean! Hey!
Starting point is 00:06:52 What's up? Oh, I'm so happy to be here with y'all today. So good to have you. So good to have you. How's the weather in the Bay Area? You're coming to us from the Bay, correct? Yeah, I mean, every day is more or less the same. Like, wake up in the the bay area you're coming to us from the bay correct yeah i mean every day is more or less the same like wake up in the upper 50s in the about 70 by the end you know but and then cold at night did you grow up in the bay no i grew up in a lot of places i grew up in like well
Starting point is 00:07:18 the long list i can do it in one breath okay here we go okay adi sababa dusseldorf washington dc cedar rapids iowa iowa city iowa brooklyn jackinsville gainesville miami london for just a semester but it was pretty formative new haven seattle and san francisco for almost 20 years yeah yeah for 20 years now almost 20 years almost 20 years so that's a that's a real testament to san francisco it stands out among the pack it finally won you over after all that wandering. Not Cedar Rapids with the Quaker factory there? I remember the Quaker factory.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I absolutely remember that. No, we didn't know anybody else in this whole country except my dad's college professor. And he said, come on out and live with us. And so we spent some time in cedar rapids iowa it was interesting it was interesting i'm sure yeah coming from ethiopia to to iowa that seems like a bit of a you're hitting the switch there yeah it's sort of that sound over and over again right right right record scratch amazing your dad was presumably a good student.
Starting point is 00:08:25 None of my college professors were ever like, come live with me, sir. Yeah. They're like, wait, are you the guy that was always smelling like two-day-old beer in class? Yeah, me. Old beer. The guy who seemed perpetually hungover. We were actually wondering how it was medically possible that you were that hungover all the time wait wasn't that everybody in college oh my god i was i was particularly bad like i was i didn't stand up very much because of how hungover i was you had that extra lean in the
Starting point is 00:08:57 seat like you were all the way back like almost laying down yeah yeah almost fetal in one of those like lecture hall chairs just curled up i can see it now i can see it now yes my dad was a genius he's oh is he is a genius he speaks six languages he's like he's he is truly truly amazing that's very amazing person. Yeah. Amazing. My dad only speaks one language. So, yeah. Sucks. Same. Yeah. And my dad only speaks Philadelphian. Wait, what's Philadelphian?
Starting point is 00:09:33 Like, what is a phrase of Philadelphian? Sausage. You say sausage instead of sausage. You say wooder. Although my dad doesn't. I actually can't tell. Like, sometimes people will be like oh your parents have like a philadelphia accent and i can't hear it because like all other voices
Starting point is 00:09:51 are built out of their voices in my brain that's right so i'm like do they but yeah no he he's pretty like he's not deep philly like yeah what's up how you doing let's get some wood or like jeet yet jeet yet no wait wait i literally have no idea what you just said or like are yinz yinz is that is that pittsburgh yinz is pittsburgh and people will tell you that pittsburgh accents are very different from ph Philadelphia accents. And maybe if you are a lifelong connoisseur of the two, but there are some strange specifics, particulars of the Pittsburgh accent where they'll say anymore, they'll leave a hanging anymore that doesn't relate to anything. They'll say, did you guys eat anymore or something like that? It doesn't really make sense.
Starting point is 00:10:43 But other than that, like it's very, they're very similar. They are part of the same accent tree. Yeah. Beautiful. Both lovely. Most lovely accents. Yeah, your dad did call this podcast a jaunt, I remember. He's like,
Starting point is 00:10:59 I was like, you gonna record that jaunt? Yeah. Alright. Well, McLeet, we are gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. Joe Biden has apparently created some guardrails around AI technology because he saw the latest Mission Impossible movie. Like, that's straight up what happened. Leader of the free world, folks. Leader of the free world. And his media diet included the most recent Mission Impossible movie.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And he was like, we got to do something. And that is both amazing and also not uncommon at all for U.S. presidents. So we're going gonna take a look back at some other policies that we got because of you know just movies that some dudes saw something because they were just like something was on hbo no way character matthew broderick is playing i don't care get him up here yeah the genocidal rhetoric is getting more and more mainstream and there there's just wild shit being said on on the fringes too but like like vivek ramaswamy said some some of the just phallus shit i've ever seen on like mainstream media outlets and kind of got away with it and then there's just all sorts of shit happening and with like comedians and just like i don't know it's a fucking mess up too is also lindsey graham
Starting point is 00:12:30 making some really weird uh very odd equivocations but yeah yeah talk about that just the islamophobia is really out of control right now and no nobody really seems to want to talk about it so we will we'll also talk about mariah carey's newest video ushering in the christmas season love a segue like the unaddressed rampant islamophobia in the united states and mariah carey yeah oh silly little he's got us all excited about christmas oh shit all that plenty more but before we get to it mcleet we Excited about Christmas. Oh, shit. All that. Plenty more. But before we get to it, MacLeet, we do like to ask our guests,
Starting point is 00:13:10 what is something from your search history? My search history right now is pretty much just music. Music, music, music. I go down rabbit holes of music. And because it's like, I'm always trying to find new immigrant musicians for the podcast but if you think about it like where do you find music you find it in like certain you know magazines or really from your friends like but the but i just go down rabbit holes i just love
Starting point is 00:13:39 going down rabbit holes so i've i guess i was like well i think instagram counts as like a search history so i was searching for like this wonderful indian musician called ganayava i've been looking at aloe black and leila mccalla and just like i just go down rabbit holes of music so that that's what i got for you i thought i thought you were saying at first that your search history was literally music, music, music, music. I was going to try that and see what I got. I'll try, I'll test it out and let you guys know what the first result is. Right. Like what do you, when you say rabbit hole, cause like I kind of do the same thing when I'm like on a music app or sometimes if I like an artist and it says other artists like this, I just never stop clicking those to see where it takes me. Because that was always like, I remember in the days of MySpace
Starting point is 00:14:30 when I was really into a musician and faithfully music pages on MySpace, he'd be like, and my influences are, and they would just give you a huge block of names. I would always use that to kind of put me onto new stuff. But is that sort of, what's your methodology here i use the algorithms but i also like to see who's friends with who so you see people commenting on each other's posts a lot right and that's sort of interesting because i like the way that you see communities overlap i'm like who is interacting with whom who's building community with whom like what's and then and then that leads me to a lot of other music as well and then then from there you got to do a little
Starting point is 00:15:08 background to be like okay are you do you qualify in the are you in the bracket of immigrant musician in another country so yeah then i get i get i can see how the research is can be exhausted it's a lot of it's a lot of research but it's fun yeah yeah who's who's someone that you stumbled upon that you're like oh this is one of the greatest musicians that i've completely had no idea about i think well let's see through that whole process a little while ago i stumbled onto an artist called sancha and she's a mexican singer based in la And she's like, she could be an opera singer. She could be like, she's this like deep belting ranchera. Comes from this like, you know, drag queen background.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I was just like, oh my God, I love you. Oh, whoa. Yeah. Okay. San, S-A-N-C-H-A. Two words. Okay. I'm checking this now.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Yeah. I love, it's like my favorite thing because there's nothing more like life affirming to hear music that excites you. You know, there's so many times like you'll hear things like, okay, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. But then you hear something, you're like, I didn't know I was waiting to actually hear this. And I couldn't articulate it, but here it is in front of me. And that is like my, it's the highest of the high.
Starting point is 00:16:26 I agree. I agree. Yes, indeed. And if you had searched music, music, music, music, you would have gotten music, exclamation point, music, exclamation point, music, exclamation point. Put another nickel in. A popular song written by Stephen Weiss and Bernie Baum
Starting point is 00:16:42 and published in 1950. Put a nickel in. I was going to say like 1915. Yeah, I know. Put another nickel in, fella. Exactly. Yeah. But I guess this was when they were just finding out about music. The song is just them
Starting point is 00:16:59 repeating music exclamation. Golly! This music. Holy cow. What's something you think is overrated front row seats because the sound is never good in the front row it's never ever good the speakers are in front the speakers are almost right in like above you yeah so the sound doesn't come to you and you're like yeah i mean i'm being showered by the spit of the singer. And that's, you know, one thing. But it doesn't sound that good.
Starting point is 00:17:31 So I think front row seats are overrated. Yeah. I got COVID from Beyonce. But, man, the low end was really all muddled, though, from the seats. I don't know why. I think I was right underneath the PA system. But, yeah. I think, yeah, knowing about acoustics or sonic, you know, the way sound moves is so, like, vital.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Especially going to, like, a big time, like, a huge festival. Because a lot of times you'll see people try and get as close to the front as they can, but you know how there'll be like rows of speakers to like sound systems to like facilitate the crowd. I'm like, don't go there. Like you're not, you're going to hear the worst version of this, like get in front of those speakers. So you're getting, you can actually hear it. Uh, and yeah, I'm, I'm always, I'm always, uh, pleasantly surprised to see how people are like just going there while leaving like the parts that the areas that sound good available to other people yeah there's always do you notice that when you're up on stage like the people down front are just there to
Starting point is 00:18:37 like try and catch a drop of your sweat and oh i don't want to be near you but they all have that old ear horn they got a listening horn though from like the 1800s to be like this is how I make it sound good because I'm too close I'll put a nickel in it say music music music
Starting point is 00:19:00 you know we're all performers here we've all been on stage but what uh i've never uh been a musician performing around the world on stages around the world are there any things that you notice like about you know how people are transported like how you know other than it like this is very this is great information that like front row seats at concerts are overrated. I've never gone and sat in the front row of a concert. So this makes me feel very confident about all my decisions and stinginess up to this point. But anything else that you can tell us just as a as a bet as someone who's been there
Starting point is 00:19:46 making music that is moving people i think you know the i think the thing that's coming to my mind is like i think the audience doesn't really like audiences don't fully understand how much of an impact they can have on the show like an audience is you know there there's all different kinds of audiences and you you start to notice over time you've been when you've been to different cities over and over again like different cities start to have different characters so like you know uh new york audience is like so used to so much music like they're like okay you gotta prove it to me right you know so you you have a lot of more root work to do top. But if you go to an audience in like Montreal, they're just like, like, it's the difference between an audience saying the same words. Show me what you can do.
Starting point is 00:20:31 But a Montreal audience will be like, show me what you could do. And a New York audience will be like, OK, show me what you can do. You know, but like the way that you the way that you give as an audience member can totally up the show. You can make the same show 10 times better by putting your own kind of energy into the mix. Because then when you start to feed off that from the stage, it just amps the whole thing up and makes it more joyful. So I would say the thing that is also under is like hooting and hollering from jump. Like you do that and you're going to get a better experience. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah. And moving your butt. Like I know in L.A. too, like playing shows in L.A. and like a lot in the West Coast too. But L.A. especially, there is like a, there's a cool factor too if you're playing a show and the crowd does not know your work. And it is very very it almost feels like arms are crossed where they're like because so many people too are also like in bands and shit in the audience like let me see if this is better than what the fuck i can do and then but the best thing is like when people just move you know what i mean even if you can't if you don't
Starting point is 00:21:40 want to hoot and holler just a head nod nod, just being, but uncrossing your arms, that body language too. It does a lot for people, for sure. How do U.S. audiences compare? Like, is it kind of in the middle or are they? Oh, like, like a Chicago audience is like a Montreal audience. like if you're performing in Ethiopia or like when I performed in Egypt and things like that, you know, the idea there is they will clap and, you know, express themselves when it's, when it touches them. And so they will tell you, they are like your living pulse on when you as an artist are in a place that is like, you you know that like electric place with a little bit of
Starting point is 00:22:26 sparkle and an extra kind of vibe like they will say there it is right i saw it now keep going there and it's like uh so it's um it just it just it helps to bring the whole thing into a you know a flow a flow state yeah hey we talk about that all the time. Shout out Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi. Okay. Yeah, yeah. It's the neurologist who took the call. I remember we did a whole episode. He's the
Starting point is 00:22:56 neurologist who was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like finding flow, that book. A lot of research into flow state and how to achieve that. I feel like the U.S. probably has a little bit harder of a time. We were just talking about this with relation to the similarities between being sleep deprived and having like alcoholic beverages. Like you're killing, you're making, you're, you're wearing out that inner like brake pusher the thing that like pushes the brakes and is like constantly on you being like don't move your body like that people people behind you are probably watching you and judging you you know you're on tiktok now way to go yeah yeah exactly but yeah that's cool what's uh what's something you think is underrated okay two things stovetop espresso which i think is just like the percolators they're just
Starting point is 00:23:48 great oh that metal thing right yeah yeah the metal thing yeah yeah yeah i think there i think there i think it's better than french press i think it's better than a pour over you know it might not be better than like a hundred year old french machine or something but i think it's the best you could do you know and then the other thing i like that i think is underrated are the cheapy headphones that you get from flight attendants on flights because they always come in handy at the exact time when you can't find your other shit oh it's like you're like wait a minute i have one of these in my purse and then like you need it and you have it. And those are my two. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:27 I'm like such a headphone nerd. Like, I'm like, I got my own cans. Thank you so much. The fidelity is way too fucked up for my ears. But hey, maybe my mother would like it because she doesn't care about how shit sounds. But yeah, it is. I never thought of it as like sort of like having like a package of Kleenex or something too
Starting point is 00:24:46 where you're like, oh, headphones. Wait, I got, I know I have a pile of them from every flight I go on. Exactly. Now I will be less stuck up and I will accept them gleefully.
Starting point is 00:24:56 You just take them as your backup. Right, right. Some of them break like one and a half uses into a life cycle. But sometimes, like that's not a rule. And sometimes they'll last you a year you know those would be you get the the real ones that uh are able to kind of stick together i thought stovetop espresso was the stovetop stuffing brand expanding
Starting point is 00:25:20 into the world of espresso so i'm very glad glad to hear that's not what's happening. Just add water to the powder. There it is. And microwave it. You're good. Oh, my God. You thought, I'm Ethiopian. I would never do that.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I know. I was going to say, serious about the coffee. That's where my American brain went. Of course. Of course. Yeah. Of course. So it probably comes in a box, this stovetop espresso?
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Starting point is 00:29:14 And we're back. And yeah, so earlier this week, Biden signed an executive order establishing new guardrails around AI technology. I remember when it happened, it being like, now? Really? This is what you're... I mean, yes, AI was a big story a few months back, and there's definitely a lot going on there, and we need to be keeping our eye on it, but the timing seemed weird.
Starting point is 00:29:40 As there's this horrifying war happening, beingaged by u.s ally israel and being funded and armed by by the u.s and he's like so this ai stuff am i right so what about student loan student loan forgiveness according to joe this was partly due to someone showing him first of all a deep fake of himself of himself to which he responded when the hell did i say that man laughing so i don't cry i know and it's but the thing is it's so it's so believe it's you just know that happened like i don't even need to know. You know, like, when the hell did I say that? When he's doing it as like a folksy thing,
Starting point is 00:30:33 where he's like, thing was so good, fooled me. Me sin. But it's like, yeah, but right now you are struggling with our ability to believe that you can hold it together so you can't make self-effacing jokes in that tenor right now like we need you to just have it together a little bit yeah yeah he didn't say exactly what deep fake it was but i i do hope that it was the one where he and vladimir putin are playing an olympic biscuit cover band but we we just don't know we don't what the hell did I say I did it all for the nookie so I can take that cookie
Starting point is 00:31:13 what is this but then according to deputy white house chief Bruce Reed who I feel like has to be on Biden's shit list for this one so part of Biden's concern over AI came after he watched Mission Impossible, Mission colon Impossible M dash Dead Reckoning part one. They did not put a colon between Dead Reckoning part one because too many, too much punctuation, but it probably should be there. At Camp David, he was like, yeah, I watched it with him, man. And he turned to me and was like, oh, no. Oh, then I got a lot of movies to show you, Joe.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Wait a minute. Are you sure this wasn't an Onion article? Right? I know. It's too real. So this is a movie in which Tom Cruise battles a computer that can literally see into the future. And obviously a lot of people are like,
Starting point is 00:32:13 Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. The quote from Reed, this is the quote that I feel like gets his ass fired. If he hadn't already been concerned about what could go wrong with AI before that movie, he saw plenty more to worry about, said Reed, who watched the film with Biden. So he watched it with him and was like, oh, yeah, man, he was he was shaking. You think he was doing that thing like like black people do when they watch a movie, like grabbing each other and pushing each other? The fuck is going on here?
Starting point is 00:32:46 He's like, Oh sir, it's, it's, it's just chat bots right now. It's not doing this shit quite yet. I do. This does concern me because the version in his brain that he is,
Starting point is 00:32:57 you know, passing legislation against, we're trying to address is the version of AI that the heads of the companies who do who are creating this and, you know, putting the money into this and releasing the products that are using this. This is the version. This is the danger they want us to believe in. Like this is the one they're always talking about. And so it's probably not the one we actually need to worry about. Right. You you know it's like they want it to be they're like we're guys we're playing with fucking dynamite over here this
Starting point is 00:33:31 thing's gonna turn into the t-1000 so you you better watch out and you also better be nice to us because we have immense power and he seems to be like, yeah, I saw the movie, man. I got that presidential debriefing. If you know what I'm saying, but I see the light now on HBO. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:54 I mean, Louis Fertel tweeted, imagining Biden watching mission impossible, tilting his head to the sky and yelling, fuck. But this is is of course far from the first time that a president has used a dumb movie as justification for policy a far more reprehensible time was the time that trump was using scenes from sicario 2 in order to defend his border wall yeah he was like the cars they got they're just super cars they go faster than anything we've got faster they're faster than our police they have i think i blocked
Starting point is 00:34:30 that out of my mind yeah it's like what are you talking about they go faster than the police cars and everyone's like do you know what movie came out over the holiday break that he probably just saw sicario 2 where they had-powered fucking smuggler cars. Yes, of course. Of course. And he probably just saw the jet-powered cars. Trump is famously the guy who had all the boring scenes edited out of Bloodsport. Not a movie known for its long periods of exposition.
Starting point is 00:35:03 But he was like, this is too boring. Just get to the fights. But the king of this shit was, not surprisingly, because he was an actor and probably should have remained one, Ronald Reagan, who, not unlike Biden, was way too old to have his job and also not unlike Biden, screened a popular movie at Camp David
Starting point is 00:35:24 and promptly freaked the fuck out that movie was war games the 80s thriller starring matthew broderick i don't know if it was a follow-up to ferris bueller's day off or if ferris bueller's day off was a follow-up to this but it's about a teenager who hacks into a government supercomputer and Reagan brought it up at a White House meeting asking the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, well, could something like this really happen? Well, that's a well is the only word I can say
Starting point is 00:35:59 like Ronald Reagan, unfortunately. But this actually led to a revamp of U.s cyber security policies and clips from war games were even shown at congressional hearings oh boy what i just yeah like they're like don't believe me look at this freaky clip of matthew broderick in a movie look at this fictional story yeah So this is not real. However, this is the basis for this legislation. Yes, even Matthew Broderick, the kid who could hack into his principal's computer and change his grades, couldn't get a hold of this.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Yeah, he just identifies Matthew Broderick as a person of interest, like being a like being a potential criminal it's like i've seen enough take this guy down he was apparently a huge fan of the 50s alien movie the day the earth stood still and believed that the u.s and the ussr would certainly resolve their differences and unite if only aliens invaded and he literally brought this theory up during a meeting with gorbachev like wow and gorbachev is just doing his best to keep it together yeah like probably looking around the room like he's like or like looking at his interpreter again he's like hold on one more time he said what the fucking alien uh yes see we we know that do you think we could be friends huh well we know that movies have like this disproportionate effect on our narratives but you don't think that it's going to be so literal yeah it's like we shouldn't look there are a lot of ways that like the young and the old overlap and you know i know that i shouldn't show my five-year-old mission impossible dead reckoning
Starting point is 00:37:55 part one and maybe we should start thinking about what media we allow the president to see because this he just might not be ready for it yeah i mean or fuck it man like if there's some like show this man bluey rogue progressives in that administration to be like i don't know you said this shit where he's like yeah so we're gonna fully fund uh medicare for all like i'm going all in on gun control we're doing an assault weapons ban like you said this shit joe yeah he's like okay oh yeah okay that yeah. Okay. That's true. That's true. That's right. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yep. I'm doing it. Yeah. We got to create a media diet, like a movie playlist for his ass, you know, because he is clearly very open to suggestions. Yeah. If anybody has a, you know, some suggestions on what we should put on the Joe Biden movie playlist, hit us up.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. Because we do have a direct line to the White House. Yeah. We have access to the Plex server they use at Camp Dan. So we can just put that shit right in there. And he's watching a rerun of The Simpsons, and it's about to be some heavy shit. Yeah, we can get Matthew Broderick to hack in there.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah, exactly. Biden's like, who did this, Broderick? I don't know. Yeah, exactly. Biden's like, who did this, Broderick? I think he'll know. He also, Reagan also famously got his strategic defense initiative idea, aka Star Wars, from Citizens Advisory Council on National Space Policy,
Starting point is 00:39:16 which was led by two sci-fi authors. And a lot of people speculated that the idea for Star Wars, which was like a massive failure. He was like, we're going to put weapons in space that can shoot down nuclear weapons from outer space. And they were like, the technology for that's like 100, 200 years away. And he was like, well, do it. Let's go. And so they did it, and people were like, oh, he was in this movie called Murder in the Air,
Starting point is 00:39:43 which is a 1940 spy adventure about a magic machine that protected the united states from air attack so that's where that's coming from and he spent trillions damn they should show joe biden the creator then they really really want to go fucking off the deep end the creator would be good good. Yeah. That's what we need. More death from above. Yeah. Oh yeah, he just sides with the US. Yeah, he's like, exactly. So we gotta build that. Perfect. I like the first part,
Starting point is 00:40:13 man. I like that part. The character Reagan plays, it was called Brass Bancroft. These names are so fucking wild, bro. Fuck yeah, why not? Brass Bancroft. Yes, are so fucking wild, bro. Yeah, why not? Brass Bancroft. Yes, sir. Good for you, man.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Good for you. Hey, good for you, man. Love it. All right. Let's talk real quick about some of the horrifying rhetoric that we're seeing that's becoming mainstream. that we're seeing that's becoming mainstream. You know, while Joe Biden continues to be soft on Netanyahu and just basically co-sign the slaughter of Palestinian people, the rhetoric is getting just fucking out of hand and Islamophobic and incredibly dangerous. Yeah, like at best, woefully disconnected from humanity
Starting point is 00:41:02 and at worst, absolutely homicidal. And I just want to point out two remarks I've heard in the last few days. So Vivek Ramaswamy, who's struggling to remain relevant in the presidential primary, he spoke to the Republican Jewish Coalition in Las Vegas and said, quote, and he said, quote, if Israel and Mossad want to take out every last leader of Hamas, wherever they may be hiding from Doha to Dresden, host a red wedding at the Four Seasons in Qatar the next time the leaders are in town, they should go ahead and do it. And we're like, I'm sorry, are we using Game of Thrones rhetoric here? Huh? Then he went on Pierce Morgan's show and said that I would love nothing more than for the IDF forces or the IDF to put the heads of the top 100 Hamas leaders on spikes and line them up on the Israel-Gaza border as a sign that October 7th will never happen again. That was even too much for Pierce Morgan somehow. He was like, uh, what? He's like, that just sounds like pouring fuel on an out of control fire. Like what do you like?
Starting point is 00:42:10 And also these are war crimes. Like we're really raw, rying this stuff for clout and just very like, I don't know what the reaction was in the room, but I guess maybe he's maybe, I don't know if he has like a game of Thrones based foreign policy and everything is going to be put through that lens as he tries to connect with voters or something but again wild wild things to say as someone who is in pursuit of the of the the white house then there was lindsey graham he was on cnn two nights ago and essentially said that civil the number of civilian casualties should not deter Israel by any stretch of the imagination. Let me play this for you really quick.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Is there a threshold for you and do you think there should be one for the United States government at which the U.S. would say, let's hold off for a second in terms of civilian casualties? Is there a point at which you would start to question the talent? If somebody asked us after World War II, is there a limit what you would do to make sure that Japan and Germany don't conquer the world? Is there any limit what Israel should do to the people who are trying to slaughter the Jews? The answer is no. There is no limit, but here's what you need to do.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Be smart. Let's try to limit civilian casualties the best we can. Let's put humanitarian aid in areas that protect the innocent. I'm all for that. Anyway, so he goes on to be like, it's wild to say there is no limit, but also like you got to be careful. You can't have that both ways, first of all, Lindsey Graham. And also, how are you likening the Axis powers of World War II to the Gaza Strip? Right. Like where, what on earth are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:43:50 And these are the people that have, they have votes, you know, to, to decide what our foreign policy is. And he's out here casually saying this kind of stuff. I mean, this is, it's just so, it's just wild to see because I feel like, I think like many people were like in some kind of twilight zone where like, I feel like we're there. Like a lot of these politicians are using this dusty ass propaganda playbook to manufacture consent for further military action. When so many people, myself included, because I was, I was coming of age during the second Iraq war, that I remember how
Starting point is 00:44:26 everything was like, don't matter. We're going in there and everybody's getting messed up. You saw 9-11. You saw 9-11. And that same way of pointing to this event to then say, now everything's on the table is horrifying, especially now because we live in an era where you can see what the actual the the results are of this kind of rhetoric. And Democrats, y'all are also doing a terrible job. The best I'm hearing are forceful call calls for a humanitarian pause. I mean, you even heard it in the CNNnn interview the thing that she's trying to get lindsey grant or just asking lindsey graham like the humane position is would the u.s or would israel stop for a second i literally i believe she literally said for a second right like well
Starting point is 00:45:20 the and the rhetoric that you know you see like from a lot of the defense, like the hawks in Congress is sort of like, well, any pause allows them to build up munitions or fortify their positions. And it's like, I'm sorry, they are not out here to take over the world. Like, I get how maybe in the 40s, you're like, this is what Hitler's trying to do. He's trying to take over the fucking world. world but this is not this situation by any stretch of the imagination and to liken it to that further dehumanizes these people and allows for this kind of shit to continue and like everything i feel like there's such an outsized emphasis on what is happening with like the the jewish people who are living around the world and i completely understand that seeing groups of jewish people be senselessly slaughtered is horrifying and will put you in a position like oh my god this is bringing back all kinds of
Starting point is 00:46:11 things because this is something that is very relevant to the history of my people but i don't see a single thing that's really actually centering what the experience is for muslim people for arab people for other people who just might see their situation unfolding in a very similar way that it is in gaza and the west bank and meanwhile you have people like lindsey graham come on they're like yeah it's all good man like it doesn't matter how many civilians die or vivek ramaswamy being like yeah call me george rr martin with it like yeah i mean the dehumanization the devaluation of palestinian life is just unbelievable and it's like you want him in humanitarian aid yes we need humanitarian aid turn on the water turn on the first thing give people clean like that seems like an act that
Starting point is 00:46:57 you could take in a heartbeat in a second they claim they turned on the water but all the pipes they they bombed everything so that nothing is working. So you can't fucking. Yeah. Well, and not to mention that like some of the pumps require energy to move the water. And if there's no electricity or fuel, then what? And it's just wild how. Just suck start that thing, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:20 Right. Exactly. Like you're using a siphoning hose or something to move water around and the it is just wild to see that the like the hammer come down on people who have out loud just called for things like a ceasefire yes and i think that's really it just shows you where like the the momentum of where this thing is going and like where the what the media is just allowing it to be too like i mean i'm slowly starting to see more like diverging opinions be represented on TV. But these first couple of weeks, it felt like, bro, don't even say anything about Palestinian people.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Don't even try it. And that is so, so disheartening too, because after seeing what this country went through or tried to have a reckoning with white supremacy in 2020 and seemingly thinking like we understood what oppression was like, we get to this one and now't deserve to be killed. But how are we now just acting like those destroyed buildings don't have human beings under the rubble, don't have screams coming out from under there that are actual legitimate human beings that had nothing to do with what happened on October 7th? Children have nothing to do with thousands and thousands of children. And children have nothing to do with thousands and thousands of children. Yeah. You know, how can you say you're targeting militants when children are dying at these levels? There was even one of these, like a lieutenant colonel from the IDF was on Wolf Blitzer's show.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And even Wolf Blitzer was like, so you bombed this refugee camp? And the IDF spokesman was like, well, yeah, but there was a hamas commander in there and they're like yeah but you but you knew there were you knew there were refugees there like people had been displaced and he's like yeah and he's like well you dropped the bomb you bombed it anyway and he's just sort of like well that's just kind of like the tragedy of war you know and just leaving it like there and i like just to hear those things said out loud and not be like, have, have any sort of real counterbalance to that is also just,
Starting point is 00:49:30 it's just, it's hard to watch because we see this play out so many times in so many different ways around the world. But yeah, it's, it's so vivid right now. And you're just asking like it, the best we can do is ask for a pause to the bombing and then because that
Starting point is 00:49:47 presumes that it will resume yeah just quick pause just let's take a let's take a beat you know yeah that's the best that we've got going in the mainstream media yeah and but yeah so again i think this is and this this goes along with two you're saying I'm seeing more and more people starting posting that polling about how Joe Biden's support is cratering with so many groups right now because of the lack of action or just even words that seemingly come off as being as acknowledging like the value of human life. human life. And but hey, I don't even know, like, I guess, when when the when the war machine is like, in the on position, like, like, they don't give a fuck about polls or anything or what public sentiment is. Yeah. All right. Let's, let's take star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite.
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Starting point is 00:53:42 partner of iHeart Women's Sports. And we're back. And it is time. Isn't that the catchphrase of Michael Buffer? Bruce Buffer's lesser. Bruce Buffer is the brother, right? Isn't Michael Buffer the main?
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Starting point is 00:54:20 Thank you. Three claps in a hollow empty auditorium. Mariah carey came for him though she's stepping on his his turf this happens every year it's becoming it's become a tradition that at midnight on halloween mariah carey drops a video that is basically her being like, all right, it's time. It's Christmas time now. It's November 1st. November 1st.
Starting point is 00:54:48 It's Christmas time. This is apparently the beginning of the Christmas season. Starbucks agrees. Starbucks holiday cups are hitting stores today on the 2nd. I mean, I know know why but come on like let's have a little let's have a a little bit of a break really quick before we go dive headfirst into the shit but okay so they went they went creative with the video this year and so it opens with a vault in like i don't know like an elaborate vault somewhere in the North Pole is kind of vibe I got.
Starting point is 00:55:29 You go in the vault and there there's Jason Voorhees, a ghost face from Scream. Yep. By the way, ghost face from Scream, a pumpkin head. Ghost face from Scream, the most popular Halloween costume I saw last night. Really? On Halloween night. Yeah, trick or treat. Like, for ages two through adult were wearing ghost face. It's more creepy when it's
Starting point is 00:55:54 two. Yeah. It was way too many of these. The way a two-year-old would walk, too, it's already kind of, like, not graceful. So, like, add that with, like, murder costume. Okay. Sure, kids. But, yeah, Scream is in the collective bloodstream right now. it's already kind of like not graceful so like add that with like murder cost okay sure but yes scream is in the collective bloodstream right now but anyways yeah so we got jason we got ghost face from scream we got pumpkin head and a fourth monster who they don't really show so i'm
Starting point is 00:56:18 assuming they didn't get the rights to them they are right and then there's mariah carey in a big block of ice yeah and then she hits that whistle tone shatters the ice block that she's encased in like this is demolition man or something yes and then it's like it's time and then we get the song and wait wait what does she say then say it i can't do it that was, nobody can hit those whistle tones like her. I won't even try. But I don't know, just wild how it goes from, like Jack, you're talking about it is, like you were saying, how it's funny to think that they're all hanging out, like in this vault, like with Mariah Carey, most days of the year. Yeah, and they're also using, when we find them, they are helping her get out of the block of ice
Starting point is 00:57:09 by using hair dryers on the block of ice. So this posits a world where Jason Voorhees and Ghostface and all the famous slasher monsters are just dying to defrost her and get the holiday season started yeah so they can stop murdering they don't like murder and also that mariah carey does a cryo sleep
Starting point is 00:57:32 from yeah the end of like december 26th to november 1st every year which would explain how she is aging backwards because she that is true incredible yeah she did look incredible i think i don't even think she's saying it's time for the holiday season she's saying it's time for me to have another number one hit with that same song again yes how do we know like every every year it's number one yeah oh yeah do we know the economics of what that is like like i don't i'm so curious like is charting number one. And I'm sure you're getting a lot of spins or whatever. It's translating to some kind of money.
Starting point is 00:58:10 But I wonder what exactly that check is looking like. Every year. I'm done with it. I think it's. But it's probably. It's enough streams. That it's probably real streaming money. But it's also like the placements.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yeah. Oh for sure. for sure okay article from billboard on the third of this year the third day of this year january 3rd 2023 mariah carey's all i want for christmas is you adds 12th week a top hot 100 that's what i'm talking about that is wild she makes they say she makes around three million dollars a year from it from that song just from yeah just from that playing yeah let alone the commercials and the licensing they do not pay you for streams so like that's a lot of streams that is that means that that song is playing in a million households across america right now it's probably like at any given second it's playing somewhere right yeah oh yeah what other song i mean that's that's powerful that's pretty smart i have to say
Starting point is 00:59:19 like that's can you imagine like all like the way way we've shifted up Christmas earlier and earlier and earlier, it's all because of Mariah. She's like, no, no, no. Watch this. Watch this.
Starting point is 00:59:29 You want me to really mess up people's marketing plans? Drop the video on November 1st. But how we, have we reached the limit? Like there's no way that Christmas can go before. Can Christmas go before Halloween? July 5th. After the fireworks.
Starting point is 00:59:41 July 3rd. That would be total domination. And she's like, it july 1st you know what that means i'm ready just blowing it up oh but i mean the thing is too i'm despite it being played so much i'm not tired of it no it i don't know why because you got a nine month break right you got a nine month break you don Right. You did. You got a nine-month break. You don't have to hear it in March, you know? Are you a fan of All I Want for Christmas Is You?
Starting point is 01:00:11 I'm a fan of Mariah Carey. When her first record came out, I was like, like when I was a kid, you know? Huge fan. And that, you know, that high-pitched scream. So I definitely listened to her at a very formative time. And I just have a lot of love for her. Like, you know, maybe in my teenage years, I, you know, turned away. But and it's not like I play her regularly, but I have a lot of love for her and appreciation for her. And I think she's, she's, I don't know, she's quite the businesswoman, you know? you know oh yeah i mean i again i just want to i really want to see like some forensic accounting about like because everyone's estimating some people are saying she's made 60 million dollars in total since the song has come out other people are saying it's like two and a half to three million a year i really just want i really want to know like i want to see how mariah carey sees
Starting point is 01:01:00 the world when it's time to dust that this track off and be like oh baby just turn the money hose on please to quote odb baby baby come on baby come on baby another song that i can still turn on a fantasy remix oh my god yeah that song still goes so hard yeah yeah i what about just how are you with christmas music in general as a musician hey really don't like it yeah yeah really i can't i can't i can't with the christmas music my family really loves it and they play a lot like around christmas time i can't get away from it with my family but i i, I cannot, but that song, I don't mind. The other,
Starting point is 01:01:47 the only other Christmas songs that I kind of like is that, um, the Otis Redding, Merry Christmas, baby. Yeah. You know, it's like,
Starting point is 01:01:58 Ooh, you gotta have something in there. That's like underneath it, you know? Yeah, exactly. Cause if you're just hearing like dean martin and shit all day yeah like i mean and hey shout out happy and drunk
Starting point is 01:02:10 ben crosby you're cool but like give us a little bit of soul that's why i have like a sharon jones like holiday album that's also really good too that you got it you kind of got to level it out with some you know dap kings sometimes, too. But, yeah. Jack, you got a favorite? The Otis Redding one's really good. Happy Christmas by Toots. Oh, yeah. I love that one.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Yeah, I need a little something extra. I think we call that seasoning. A little seasoning. Yeah. I can't do the straight mayonnaise. A little a seasoning. A little seasoning. Yeah. I can't do the straight mayonnaise. A little holiday seasoning. The mayonnaise sandwiches from Bing Crosby every year just not getting it done for me. I like that one Pretenders song that's kind of about Santa Claus.
Starting point is 01:02:57 It's like a very sad song about Santa Claus. Yeah. That one's really good. I like that one John Lennon song happy christmas war is over i've got i've got a whole playlist okay you know and mcclee what's most what's the one that you're you're plugging your ears when you hear oh god i i don't know maybe blue christmas oh christmas oh yeah yeah it does it does feel like you should be drinking like gin and like out of a brown bag like in like a snowy alley when that song comes on you know what i mean it doesn't
Starting point is 01:03:37 feel like bus stop yeah yeah exactly i don't feel like my family my family yeah yeah for sure yeah there's a lot of a lot of songs that were, yeah, and you can't be with the people you love. I know. It sucks for you. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we're already having a hard time with the weather. We feel like that's an over-served market, guys.
Starting point is 01:03:58 People who can't be with the people they love. I'll be home for Christmas, which is a good song. Yeah, it is a good song. Oh, it's so sad yeah i do regret to inform you that i could listen to you sing the otis song all day so you might have a christmas album christmas album but you know well i mean then you look at mariah carey and you're like this is a good idea right but does it have to be does it okay here's here's my thing here's my thing it doesn't have to be christmas there's a lot of holidays like you could write uh you could write a song you
Starting point is 01:04:33 write a halloween song it plays every halloween you write a like you could do it with any holiday and there would actually be less competition if you were doing it around like another holiday thanksgiving yeah yeah it's a new year new year song like that's there's a in fact i have a i have a new year song coming out on a there's a ethiopian new year's is like a really really really big holiday and i have a ethiopian new year song coming out for the next ethiopian new year's and i know now forever every year it will be bumped yeah exactly yeah they're like there you go i found the pocket and here i am because i remember that was like it was like standard
Starting point is 01:05:11 operating procedure for like pop artists for decades to be like where's your christmas album in sync where's your christmas album annie lennox and you're like what okay sure but yeah give us something give us someone give us a fucking halloween album halloween is probably the least underserved of all the other holidays and rightly so it is the best holiday but it's still like a little thin like after you get through thriller and monster mash and like there are definitely the iconic hits but it's like christmas could have its own just radio station year round yes it shouldn't but it could easily have that there's just no like halloween is like a couple hours playlist and you're like uh should we do the monster mash again well we're we're
Starting point is 01:05:58 doing that like purple people eater song that was like yeah made for like kids birthday parties in the 1950s like what the fuck are we doing here i want to say like there should be the mother's day and father's day song so because that also would like that seems like i mean boys demand gave us mama yeah mama you know i love you i mean there's that one but yeah where's one that one Where's the one for dads There's a lot of ones that's like Shout out to you dad Butterfly kisses It's just a dad being real schmaltzy
Starting point is 01:06:35 That one is the freakiest Fucking song Butterfly kisses When you go to a wedding And you got the first dance to that song. I've been to more than one wedding where Butterfly Kisses was the bride and father dance track.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And I'm like, yo, this is like a little this is too freaky, man. There's a good father song. I think it's called Father of the Bride by Hamilton Lighthouser from The Walkman. I'd recommend that. Okay. I think they're going to say Father of Mine. Is that a song? hamilton lighthouser from the walkman i'd recommend that okay okay yeah all right are
Starting point is 01:07:05 they gonna say father of mine is that is that a song no it's called the bride's dad by everclear father of mine oh yeah tell me where have you been this one is about like unfortunately it's not interesting if it's a good dad it has to like the bride's dad the song I was talking about, is about a dad who shows up to his daughter's wedding and gives a speech and he's a little drunk and his suit is dirty, but it's kind of cute. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Do you know the lyrics to Butterfly? You've heard Butterfly Kisses? I mean, I can hear the guy's voice like, Butterfly, you know like it's like about blinking into his daughter's eyes yeah i cannot i cannot remember the song and i'm not sure if it's because i've blocked it out or because i actually don't remember but yeah it's like each thing's like there's two the first lyrics there's two things i know for sure she was sent from heaven and she's daddy's little girl. As I drop to my knees
Starting point is 01:08:05 by her bed at night, she talks to Jesus and I close my eyes and I thank God for all of the joy in my life. Oh, but most of all, for butterfly kisses. Butterfly kisses. That's kind of creepy somehow. Oh yeah. It's definitely
Starting point is 01:08:21 like squarely inside the culture that gave us like purity promises and shit like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because in the next verse, sweet 16 today, she's looking like her mama a little more every day. Oh, no. Yo, one part woman, the other part girl. Yo.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Easy, dad. Easy. Dad, don't let Back the fuck up, dad Don't let this guy Give a speech at your wedding And don't play this At a wedding For God's sake, DJ
Starting point is 01:08:51 Butterfly kisses It's wild to be at It's like See someone like a dad Holding their daughter And stuff And he's like She'll change her name today
Starting point is 01:08:58 She'll make a promise And I'll give her away Standing in the bride room Just staring at her She asked me what I'm thinking. And I said, I'm not sure. I just feel like I'm losing my baby girl. Okay, Bob.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Thanks, Bob Carlisle. Is this like one of the ways? You didn't possess her, my man. Is this like one of the ways that we've come a long way around patriarchy? Like that we can all like be horrified by this? No, no. 30 years later. For sure.
Starting point is 01:09:24 We're like, you don't own her bob carlisle bob carlisle like that just sounds like it's the the name of your fucking like typing teacher from middle school or something you know yeah yeah yeah bob carlisle do you hear the song bob carlisle wrote about his daughter wow Wow. It's a banger, man. Absolutely. It's the most dad-ass name I've ever heard. Wow. Yeah, you just feel someone coming up to you.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Hey, Bob Carlyle. Nice to meet you. Bob Carlyle. Nice to meet you. Keep your damn hands off my little girl. What? What the fuck are you talking about, man? And you know that handshake is compensating yeah when you shake that hand it's
Starting point is 01:10:05 like hey nice to meet you bob carlisle you're like okay easy man i get it butterfly kisses first of all i just met you and your family second of all you're gesturing at a 45 year old woman right now as you say keep my hands off your little girl you weirdo mclean hedero what a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Find me, follow me at Macliet Music. That's my handle on Instagram and all the things and MaclietMusic.com. It's M-E-K-L-I-T. And even if you forget, you know, remember that I live in San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:10:43 If you Google Ethiopian singer San Francisco, I come right up. It's called SEO. That's called SEO. Yeah. That's right. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I'm going to shout out an album called Ting Mong, which just came out by the L.A. bass band Dengue Fever.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And they're great it's like a cambodian kind of throwback psychedelic rock band and the lead singer her name is nimel chom nimel she comes from a family of traditional singers in cambodia and she is badass like every note that comes out of her mouth brings you into like a place where you're like, okay, I don't know. I don't understand any of the lyrics. And I'm 100% with her, like at every single song that she sings, every note that she plays. And Dengue Fever is just like, they're a treasure. They have a new record, Ting Wong, and all the songs on it are pretty fantastic.
Starting point is 01:11:43 So that's my pick. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you as their work in media? You've been enjoying. At base platforms, Miles of Grey. Find us on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack on Mad Boosties. Find me on my 90 Day Fiance show, 420 Day Fiance. And also The Good Thief.
Starting point is 01:12:02 It's the true crime show where we are in pursuit of the greek robin hood let's see a tweet that i like is actually an excerpt from a joe rogan interview um that ben collins at one underscore and then an underscore tweeted just said how is this real uh and this is the excerpt it says don't worry rogan explained i got my blood work done and the doctor says you have arsenic in your blood. Rogan continued. I go, is someone poisoning me? He said, it's very low levels.
Starting point is 01:12:31 The doctor asked about Rogan's fish consumption, which revealed the problem. Rogan told the doctor, yeah, I eat like three cans of sardines a night. I got the bus recorded. That's a lot of sardines man i love sardines rogan said passionately i love them i really do i've always loved sardines oh just a three can night huh all right you might have a salt deficiency man that's that's a lot holy shit it's a lot of i mean i like sardines three cans before bet buy. I don't know about that. But every day? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Like, that's what you would have to crave them to do that. Just, like, think about it during the day. I mean, that's... The body craves what's in the blood, they say, you know? So, if all your blood is sardines, then you're probably just powered off sardines. He probably smells really good, too. Yeah. All sardines all the time anyways uh you can find me
Starting point is 01:13:29 on twitter at jack underscore o'brien i don't know what what's the working media i watched uh halloween 2 i had never seen halloween 2 before i that was my horror movie for halloween evening and it was a it was a fun time i will say the halloween films seem to posit a universe of human beings who like a universe where human beings never developed peripheral vision because there are so many moments where they are looking like just to the left of michael myers and have no fucking clue he's there. He's tapping their shoulders. He's like, one second, one second. That literally happens.
Starting point is 01:14:11 One time he comes up behind a girl and puts his hand on her shoulder and she starts sucking on his finger because she thinks he's a dude that Michael Myers actually just killed. Oh, God. Yeah. How did he handle that? Hopefully Michael Myers wasn't a creep about the whole thing also his hands were like mad dirty yeah dude without even knowing i'm like michael myers
Starting point is 01:14:34 does not wash his fucking hands he's been leaving bloody handprints everywhere and then she's just like yeah anyways uh that's my pick uh you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Miles, what song are we sending people i was actually listening to mcleet's album on a day like this and there is a track on there that i was really fucking with it's called soleil soleil hey i love the percussion i love the the horns it's like sax in there with some strings too. All of the above. And also bass clarinet, baby. Bass clarinet. Yeah. I love the textures. I love the palette that's being used on this track.
Starting point is 01:15:33 And not to mention your vocals, everything. So this is, you guys, y'all got to look it up. But this is McLeet's track, Sole Sole. All right. Well, we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning.
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