The Daily Zeitgeist - Honestly, Trendermind 6/21: Credit Card Companies, Elon Musk, Uvalde, Lightyear, John Eastman

Episode Date: June 21, 2022

In this edition of Honestly Trendermind, Jack and Miles discuss credit card companies blocking efforts to track gun sales, Elon Musks' daughter wanting nothing to do with him, the 'abject failure' in Uvalde, Jack's continued bewilderment at the film 'Lightyear', and John Eastman getting all the blame.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of honestly trendermind you know i don't even want to be honestly never mind honestly never mind hey you like my new album you're not even worth it hey like my new album liked you i don't know aubrey it feels like kind

of like you're you're entertaining like like the weakest part of your skills. Honestly, never mind, eh? All right, Drake. Later, bro. That short show title is courtesy of Johnny Davis. This is definitely the least listened to just like among people I know. Drake album that I've seen drop. i have not listened to it it's got mixed i feel like people are either like yes i love this like non-art drake just making like

sort of like tropical loops um i don't know i do love the take though that he's a gambling addict he's just trying to put some shit out to get some more money. Right. I mean, that's how, you know. I've heard that some of our greatest basketball players motivated themselves that way just to, you know, feel the fire behind the nipping at their butt when it got too easy. Meanwhile, fucking Beyonce put out a fucking track

and that actually has people be like, do I quit my job? Because I feel like Beyonce is telling me to, and I will. I feel like the most shared sentiment I see on Twitter. Break my soul? Yeah. Now that is a title that you can say

with your whole chest and body, as opposed to, it's kind of the opposite of honestly never mind honestly never do that you couldn't be you couldn't tell people i'm not really sure about this shit i just made if it's called honestly never mind because i was telling you off mike that's what you say when you you having problems or something and you go to a friend you confide to them and then they start kind of holding a mirror up to you about maybe your part in your own uh you know trials and tribulations you go honestly never mind right man i didn't come here for that honestly just

never mind that's what it feels like that's the energy of this title but whatever it's such a straightforward encapsulation of what i wouldn't have thought was a conscious like trend in his music, which is just to confuse, like sort of being, um, kind of grumpy and unhappy about silly things, uh,

and be, and like passive aggressive with, with, you know, content, emotional content that people can identify with. I don't know. Maybe,

maybe that is the emotional content that people can identify with these days. More, more, more so than anything else is just passive aggression and just being like, whatever, you know, I, I gotta say,

cause that, that album came out. Bloomberg ain't writing about Drake. They're writing about Beyonce. They're saying Break My Soul lyrics are an ode to the great resignation and anti-work. Because that's Bloomberg. They got to have a

take and I guess that would resonate with their readers. She opened saying, just quit my job or something to that effect. Yeah, and then you got Big Freedia just pumping it up in the back man it's kind of nice to have that like bloomberg review out there because i was kind of waiting to see how i felt about the beyonce song until i heard bloomberg's take on it but um now i can

speak now i can fully uh just vibe with it without with abandon um credit card companies are trending yeah uh what's happening they're they're basically on the right side oh yeah yeah yeah so many companies that started off being like yeah yeah we'll take your slave money and and hold that for you um they are now they're they're getting in the headlines because, you know, just what can we do bare minimum to try and prevent unnecessary gun violence? And one of them might be to, Hey, maybe we can just track the purchases of, of ammunition and weapons. Maybe that would help if we had a really easy way to do that.

Maybe the credit card companies could create a new kind of vendor code so that would sort those kinds of transactions to make it easier for somebody to kind of track someone's spending habits. Well, guess what? Guess who doesn't want to do that? The credit card companies. They basically blocked a move to do that.

And as we talked about years ago on this show, the conventional wisdom within the industry and on Wall Street is that credit card companies are no longer just credit card companies. And in fact, their primary business is that they are data mining companies. They give people access to your spending habits and people use that for marketing.

And so this is not, even though, I can see a world where people are like, well, yeah, of course they're going to oppose that because that's not what they're supposed to do. It's like, but it is what they do. That is what their main kind of- I'm sure they would love for a way to even be able to zero in.

But I think it also shows that, you know, part of the biggest holdups to like gun control are the profits of gun manufacturers. So if they can get the credit card people in on it too to maybe pump the brakes a bit, maybe they'll just forget about it. I don't know. But anyway, that's that's

today's semi-villain amongst many villains um elon musk uh is trending because elon musk's daughter changed their uh gender and name i got the birth certificate changed and everything i like the quote which is when asked why, I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape, or form. I hope that you haven't had a terrible relationship with your parent because I know how much stress that causes people. But yeah, I can't imagine having Mr. Contrarian blunt smoker as your dad ends up with cool results. Ah, anyway.

Did that diminish blunt smoking in any way? I feel like blunt smoking might be undiminishable. Blunt smoking is undefeated. Yeah. Even when, remember like years ago, we talked about that one, that dude who came out who was defending his little sister from the USC like tuition or admission scandal. And he was smoking like a fucked up looking blunt.

And he's like, yo, you need to let her fucking chill. And it was like this like New Yorker kid who clearly never rolled a blunt in his life. And I was like, this is a crime against the blunt community. Yeah, it's just like, you know, people try to tamper with, with it, but no, still, still going with the blunt smoking.

All right. So the, you know, Elon Musk's daughter is trans. And in 2020, Elon was called out for mocking pronouns on Twitter. So days after her 18th birthday, she changed her name to Vivian Jenna

Wilson, which is her biological mother's surname, and then dropped that heater of a quote with regards to her father. All right, let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,

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you know, just be a complete failure of the police in that town and just generally as an institution. And, yeah, that's according to their own people. Yeah, like the Department of Public Safety, they just, after looking at tape and stuff, just saying, this is an abject failure they talked about three minutes after this gunman entered the the building they said there was a sufficient number of armed officers wearing body armor to isolate distract and neutralize the subject and quote the only

thing stopping a hallway of dedicated officers from entering room 111 and 112 was the on-scene commander who decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children um i mean it's it's it's so it's it's it's really difficult to read the about the ineptitude of police on that day uh and like the kinds of things they were saying they could or couldn't do because of the situation and just have these like constant stream of receipts or surveillance footage to be like that doesn't seem correct at all um and now i'm sure like it gets to a point where like the situation's untenable for even like the most like loyal police you know uh fans like it were at least within the state of texas to be like that was just such a fucking that was a total fuck up and failure um but i don't know i mean that

the chief of police there i think just made it onto the city council or something so it's does seem like they're trying to isolate it on the, like one commander, you know, just like one bad apple, their favorite thing to kind of focus on when it comes to police criticism. But as we talked about, I mean, we had a whole chunk in one of our episodes right after the New York subway shooting about how the police at the, at the site of that were running the opposite direction and telling people to call the police. Um, this was after they had like beefed up, uh, police

spending and, uh, police presence in the subways. So, you know, it's a time and again, there are just many stories that keep telling us, uh, that the police are not the answer to America's problems. But the mainstream media does not want you to hear that story. And most of their sources are the police. And I get that. I'm sure this will be an easy way to try and pin everything. That's like all of the anger people have with law enforcement and be like, yeah, it's just them.

Let's just, let's make it, let's make a meal out of them. And then we can move on from the police are bad discussion. Does that sound good? Everyone? Does that sound good? All right. Break. Ready?

Break. And by break, we mean the civilization. Oh. All right. Light year. so talked heading into the weekend about how i wasn't clear on why this movie was existed um people the expectations leading into the weekend and like up to friday like as you know the thursday results were coming in was like the this was going to pull in about $75 million. And it ended up bringing in $50 million and is being seen as a major disappointment for Pixar,

which is a bummer, I think, for a couple of reasons. First of all, Pixar could have definitely had a hit with Turning Red. I mean, they had a hit on Disney+. But there's no reason that movie shouldn't have hit theaters it like felt like a movie that was in theaters that then when you went to read about it was like no you watched it on disney plus which fine like i know we love free content but it just i don't know i worry about the future of uh movie going and like theater movie going when they're like, we got to risk it all on Lightyear because it's an action adventure Pixar movie. And yeah, turning like, why not risk it on

the movie that had the best reviews of a Pixar movie in years and is just good at the thing that people like Pixar for instead of a movie that tries to change what Pixar does. And yeah, it's just, it's like, I don't know. I could like,

I think the lesson should be more mid budget movies and less like Pixar trying to like launch a franchise of action adventure movies. But I think studios seem to think they just shouldn't release something in theaters unless it's a, you know, theme park ride essentially, or at least has that theme park, you know, action park ride essentially, or at least has that theme park, uh,

you know, action, spectacular aspect to it. Um, which is a bummer. I, it really does feel like one of the first times we're seeing like wall street logic creep into how the like,

you know, culture in this country is made because, you know, for a long time they could just put something on streaming. It would lift the streaming numbers temporarily and then that would make the line go up on Wall Street. And the people who make those decisions have stocks.

So that's kind of what ultimately matters to them. And also when something tanks on streaming, fewer people notice. But it's a bummer. They're going to line goes up the fuck out of art. I mean, I think things, I've talked about this in the past, but in the 80s and shit,

when marketing people began to take over development roles because they knew what would sell, that sort of like the beginning of the end of like more idea-driven development versus like what bring in the money for box office immediately yeah um and because of that yeah like we see less and less original films being made and we're blown away by things like everything everywhere all at once because it's like this goes against all the logic that is no seems to normally be applied to what gets made or what doesn't yeah and even like after after Top Gun like blew up at the box office and Jurassic Park blew up at the box office like the studios stock prices were down because they you know wall street doesn't

give a shit about hits they're like yeah you're supposed to have like yeah those sorts of hits but what what what you do for me on streaming and like telling us a data and like getting into you know dystopian capitalism that's what we're talking about um and yeah there's movies like i feel like chip and dale kind of came and went because they just released it on streaming um fire island you know these are things that are on hulu can go watch uh like should go watch them but like uh there's a father of the bride remake that i remember reading about years ago and like that they just released on streaming. It's just, I don't know. Vandy Garcia and Gloria Estefan.

Yeah. I watched a little bit of it. I even feel like RRR, which could have. That's the one thing I tell people to go watch. Yeah, if they had released it in theaters, man. I feel like people would have, they could have built something. I don i feel like people would have could they could have built something i don't know if i could have made that made that whole film three hours yeah

i had to break it i had to break it up but i mean meanwhile on the right they're like yeah man too woke that's what happened yeah yeah of course their favorite thing to say and someone else pointed out they're like uh did you see how diverse that top gun cast was uh was compared to the first top gun and yeah okay but you don't see that that's fine that's fine that's fine just ignore that part because normally you see like people of color and a thing that normally didn't have people of color you're like it's too fucking woke right um and finally john eastman is trending um yeah yeah i mean a lot of people are trending from the january 6th committee hearings but uh john eastman seems to be the smart money on who is going to be made the patsy by trump yeah because it looks like you know it's everything's

bad so many people are like yeah man he told me to say that shit or he'll be like i never said that that's a lie from the president i never told him this or that or the other thing and because of that apparently according to this one rolling stone article it's making him very very like angry and increasingly like saying stuff like i don't know why i should even defend john eastman at this point it's like he was the guy who even you said hey how do i steal the election he's like well according to my legal knowledge this might work and. And now you're like, I don't know him. And now they're saying, quote, he, Trump, has privately insisted he hardly or barely knows Eastman despite the fact that he counseled Trump on taking a string of extra legal measures in a

bid to stay in power and wrote the so-called coup memo. Right. So, I mean, it makes sense. Well, Trump probably completely ignored those or didn't take any of those extra legal measures. Oh, wait, no, he did all the things. He tried them on. He's probably like, none of these are working.

The fuck are you doing? So, you know, it continues to get messy. And I think meanwhile, like with the January 6th committee, like their start times have been kind of all over the place and a lot of people suspect it's because they're concerned that the supreme court could hand down a you know row decision like on the morning of like a huge day for january 6th testimony and then just be like there there goes that but right that's it yeah That's the other like big thing that is happening is that we're just kind of at the moment. I mean, by the time you listen to this, they may have, uh, overturned row, but like we're,

we're just kind of waiting for them to press the send button on the, uh, decision that changes the future of the, of the country. Um, right. that changes the future of the country. Right. And have completely abandoned DC because of the mentally ill person who turned themselves in. And the person who was having a mental health crisis

that turned themselves in. Oh, outside of Kavanaugh's house. Outside of Kavanaugh's house yeah um so that's yeah and i feel like that is going to be the ballast that they use any when we're angry about the decision to be like well like we gotta we gotta push back on any protests because right of this one and it looks and they they will probably succeed in trying to spin it because the optics of people fighting for their like right to exist looks a lot different than parents insisting that mr potato head is the path to uh an unclean life you know

what i mean and then they'd be like whoa you see you see these people they're so fired up it's like yeah because you're fucking you these these are existential threats you're putting in front of them like real ones yeah and i think yeah that will look a little bit different but at the end of the day that's always going to be the case and it's it's more about like what the response is going to be from from people to look after each other. But yes, trouble abounds. Mm-hmm. All right. Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this Tuesday afternoon.

We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Yes. Get the vaccine. Get the booster if you haven't. Get a second booster if you haven't. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. We will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye.

Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty. Founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.