The Daily Zeitgeist - Horizon ForbidTrend West 4/19: Horizon Forbidden West, Twilight, Gun Crime, Tennessee, Ben Shapiro, Dunkin Donuts, Twitter, Florida

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

In this edition of Horizon ForbidTrend West, Jack and DJ Danl discuss the release of Horizon Forbidden West, the 'Twilight' TV series, a quick round-up of all the totally preventable gun crime destroying young lives, Tennessee lowering the permitless carry age to 18, Ben Shapiro's 'Frozen 4' fears, Dunkin Donuts bringing back an old favorite, Twitter declaring open season on the LGBTQ+ community in their TOS, and Florida's "Don't Say Gay Bill" getting expanded to all school aged children!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour.

If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet and welcome to this episode of Horizon Forbid Trend West.

Oh, what is that? Let's go! Fire. I am Jack and I'm thrilled to be joined by a special guest co-host DJ Daniel Goodman that's me baby happy 420 to all my fellow Portland Trail Blazers out there I hope everybody's blazing it up

420 Eve I fucked up you blew it man we already recorded the 420 episode for tomorrow I'm saying the same thing tomorrow that's all I'm saying some people start early it's like Christmas Eve has it's own tradition Well, I'm saying the same thing tomorrow. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying the exact same thing.

Hey, some people start early. It's like Christmas Eve has its own tradition. Maybe 420 Eve does too. Leave out milk and cookies for Snoop Dogg. That's right. Yeah, start baking your cookies for tomorrow. Before you bake yourself, bro. Am I right?

Put the cookies and milk out. Alright. Horizon Forbidden West The Burning Shores has released and PS5 gamers are eating. Thank you for reading my headlines so effectively. I appreciate that. Just doing my best to act like I know what any of that means.

All I know about video games is from this CNET article that says all the best video games are old and open opens with this sentence i was like what right when i read that headline i was like okay this is a 42 year old white guy uh turns out uh the first sentence of the article is i am old 41 41 years old, to be precise. I was off by one year. But anyways, tell me why you're excited about gaming and particularly

Horizon Forbidden West. I certainly will. The Horizon franchise is my favorite video game story franchise followed closely by The Last of Us. The Forbidden West expansion, The Burning Shores, is set in my hometown of Los Angeles. story franchise followed closely by the last of us the forbidden west expansion the burning shores is set in my hometown of los angeles a bit of a spoiler kind of for people who haven't played the horizon franchise but alas it's amazing it's this huge open area it's a third of the size of the

original map so they just took the original huge map and added a third of that to a whole new area that's awesome it's amazing it introduced new mechanics. That's awesome. It's amazing. It introduced new mechanics and it's just, I just, you know, let me tell you something. This game is always pushing the envelope on how incredible video games can look and feel. It's some of the best mechanical expression that I found in video games. If you like the idea of hunting giant robots with a bow and arrow and exploring beautiful, vast landscapes

as an awesome lead character who doesn't take any shit from anybody, I just could not recommend it highly enough. The expansion came out. I will be streaming it later on Twitch

so that if anybody wants to watch me go, oh my god, then you can watch me there. But yeah, it's just another fucking great game that deserves some love.

And so yeah, check out Horizon Forbidden West. The Burning Shore is released right now on the PS5. It is so good and worth all your money. That sounds boring to me. I prefer Super Mario Brothers because I'm old and my opinions on video games matter. You mentioned the word mechanic a couple times. Yes.

What does this mean? Mechanic is just the way that you are able to interact with the video game. Mechanical expression is how you are able to control the character and how responsive it is to your controlling. And some games just don't have that as well. Some games are described as clunky or slow, like you're moving through molasses. But games like Horizons Forbidden West, and you're moving through molasses, but games like Horizon Forbidden West, and I could go on for hours about games with good mechanical expression, but

Horizon Forbidden West has particularly strong mechanical expression, meaning how you interact with the game feels natural, feels responsive, just a great game to play. Got it. Yep. So how's it compared to the mechanics of Super Mario Brothers?

No. All right. I'll stop talking about video games out of my depth. But that all sounds beautiful. I truly love listening to people who are passionate about video games talk about video games because you guys are really good at conveying what is exciting about this new form of media. Thank you. I just don't have the time to put into playing video games.

I think that was the reason I stopped playing was just I didn't, I felt bad about playing video games because of my own issues. Look, the things in my own life that I've put to the wayside to make time for it, I think nobody has time

to play video games. I recently realized that I have over 3,000 hours in Rocket League, and that was a sad realization to come to. I love that game, but damn, 3,000 hours of my life have been dedicated to one game, and that hurts my feelings a little bit. Wouldn't trade it for anything else, though. Yeah.

I mean, I watch a lot of movies. I watch a lot of TV. I listen to music. I just chose where I was like, these things, when I spend a lot of time on them music like all you know i just chose where like i was like these things when i spend a lot of time on them don't make me feel bad about myself so i'm going to like for instance this next story twilight is getting rebooted as a tv series i've spent at least 3 000 hours watching the twilight franchise um you're big you're big team edward right oh come on is there any like i think the i think history has spoken

with regards to whose career has uh stood the test of time i mean one of them became the bad man and one of them is nowhere uh yeah but this just seems to be a thing that's going to be happening for the rest of our natural lives yeah everything is going to get rebooted into a tv series and i mean you know just jumping right back to what we were talking about to get rebooted into a tv series and i mean you know just jumping right back to what we were talking about horizon is getting turned into a tv series as well at some point so lord knows i will be here making a similar kind of statement about how awesome the horizon tv show is so yeah everything is just getting recycled and put into different things and yeah i don't know it sucks yeah not day, another innocent kid, uh, shot by a scared gun owner.

Um, that makes three in the last week, I believe this time in Elgin, Texas, uh, where two cheerleaders got into a car thinking that it was their Uber or their friend picking them up. Um, and the person just opened fire we've obviously talked about the child who was shot for ringing the wrong doorbell when trying to pick up his sibling and there was one in upstate new york after that where people pulled into the wrong driveway to turn around and the person just opened fire the gun industry obviously bears responsibility for like how many guns are in people's hands in america and i think the more guns that are loose in america the more likely things like this are to happen you also

need to take a look at the marketing that happens in the gun industry because it is all just these revenge self-protection fantasies about getting to like shoot people who are coming for you and your family and then you know that are basically part of a cinematic universe with like the news that fox news chooses to put out there and local news stations choose to put out there where they just overemphasize crime and make it seem like everybody's coming after you. And it is a nightmare and one that is getting increasingly worse because gun ownership just shot up during the pandemic. So not only did the gun ownership rise, but like the protections against gun companies as well,

you know, it's kind of like, it's kind of like the taxes thing that we're talking about tomorrow's episode about how there's just so much money behind keeping things the way they are. And so much legislation that goes into protecting gun companies from any sort of legal recourse for the weapons that they put out into the world as we saw in a tennessee another story um if you don't mind my moving on of course yeah please to you know so a couple stories in tennessee as of late um there is two things have happened

recently so you may remember three weeks ago there was an awful you know shooting uh at a tennessee school leaving six people dead three of them were nine years old um and since that happened one of the things that has just been passed into law or rather has been passed through the tennessee senate and is now on the desk of the governor is the permitless carry age being lowered to 18 and this is just the kind of thing that I've read. And I was like, first of all, I didn't even know permitless carry existed. The fact that you can just own a gun without a permit to own it, without any knowledge of how to use it. Like you can just go and buy a gun without anything else stopping you in your way. It's like, I don't know a single place where

you can drive a car without a license. And yet now at the age of 18, you can carry a gun without a permit, a handgun mind you, but still it's like a weapon of murder in the hands of anybody in Tennessee, the age of 18 or older. And I don't know. It's just,

these kinds of stories make me scratch my head. They make me really, really fucking sad. It's so flagrant. It's just these kinds of stories make me scratch my head. They make me really, really fucking sad. It's so flagrant. It's so, yeah, it's, it's incredibly,

it's incredibly flagrant. And similarly, another actual law was passed that protects gun makers from lawsuits in the state of Tennessee. So like a little bit of context for that last year, Remington, the gun manufacturer, Remington settled a lawsuit with

the families of Sandy Hook. Now, remember, Sandy Hook was over a decade ago, and just last year, they settled with Remington for $73 million. And the accusations were that Remington was advertising to young men through various forms of targeted product placement, also in violent video games, which I think is a separate discussion but regardless they're advertising through the means of reaching young kids and tennessee is like well we'd hate to see our gun producers face any lawsuit for the murder weapons that they put out into the world and are passing laws to protect them from those sorts of things and it's just like what what is the goal here the goal is to the goal is to allow more and more production of murder weapons put out into the world and completely exonerate them of any

responsibility when those things are used for their intended purpose on innocent people right and it's i don't i don't know what where are we going what is the we doing? Yeah. The goal is to protect commerce at all costs. Protect commerce at all costs. Yeah. And it's just really, really disappointing. Yeah. I don't know. Well, Ben Shapiro is doing his part, worrying about what is going to happen in Frozen 4.

There's just a great viral clip of him saying that if elsa or anna one of them yeah i think he has a feeling that they might be a lesbian and is like and if they come out and say that she's a lesbian and frozen four will destroy it like it's a very strange just like rant that he's going on destroy yeah i just think that's a funny sentence because like what do you think that could actually happen like what steps do you think could actually happen that would destroy disney yeah i mean what could they possibly do they're under attack ron de santis was talking about building a private prison around disney world so fuck um yes fuck ron desantis fuck disney too but i mean yeah for many other reasons for many other reasons all right

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Dunkin' Donuts had removed the butter-roasted pecan swirl coffee flavoring. Much to my chagrin, I'll have you know. Is that real? You're a fan? Bro, I'm your fucking pumpkin spice baby over here i stay i stay drinking all the flavored coffees because you know what frankly i need a little love i just need a little extra joy in my life sometimes not hurting anybody else

and if i'm gonna have a couple pumps of some sweetness in my coffee brother i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it and butter pecan is particularly pretty good hits the spot little little little bit of a tiny little bit of a smoky flavor that butteriness making it a little bit more a little more umami up in there sounds delicious i this is also just very this seems like the most transparent, like artificial scarcity example that I've ever seen because like, this is, it's not like the butter pecan crop, the butter pecan flavoring crop had a bad couple of years and it like drove

prices through the roof. It was just like, what could have possibly motivated them other than getting a news story out there that whatever account is going away and then bringing it back. But the classic flavor is later to return to, uh, Duncan restaurants nationwide on April 26th and it's back permanently. So we can all,

we can all chill out a little bit. You know, who is the most, I shouldn't say guilty, but who uses this tactic the most by far is mcdonald's yeah mcdonald's the mcrib spicy nuggets they could bring szechuan sauce back and people would lose their minds like all of these all of these little things that they have for a limited time only and they should be like gang it's bad it's like bitch you've had it in the freezer for years and you're just waiting

yeah but i'm in line for spicy nuggets come eat piggies yeah yeah hey you know what oink oink yeah this little piggy's coming to the trough there is a story that i think we even talked about the the mcrib like availability was based on like pork futures and in retrospect and with some distance from that story i feel like that has to have been planted by mcdonald's yeah to be like it's driven by natural ebbs and flows and you know normal ingredients and it's not a marketing tactic at all we don't know what you're talking about uh and then just a couple stories about the lgbtq plus community being completely under attack um so twitter removed protections for trans people from their terms of service yeah they did and this was only discovered so this happened on april 8th but

it was only discovered yesterday by glad and here is the line as it reads on the original terms of use or TOS, terms of service. We prohibit targeting others with repeated slurs, tropes, or other content that intends to degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category. This includes targeted misgendering or dead naming of transgender individuals. And that one line was just removed and it's just another another you know pawn in the war against trans people that elon musk is deciding to you know insert himself into by being a fucking shithead and making more social media places a dangerous place for trans people to be and it's just like another fucking head scratcher of who is making money off this such that you think that that like this is this is worth it like why why why why

why i don't know this is a bad person because he's a bad person and that's all there is to it there's an attention economy where you know doing some edgelord shit gets him attention from the handful of millions of reply guys who have just kind of cornered the market of all the people who he interacts with and then there's another story that Florida's Board of Education is officially expanding the Don't Say Gay Bill. So Florida's Don't Say Gay Bill has now been expanded to cover all grades now, including grades four through 12. So this bullshit bill was introduced under the bullshit premise that they need to protect children up to third grade from this idea and now it's just mask off they're just like no we actually just want to remove these people's reality from

our reality and make it so that we don't have to honor their existence so like by their logic this is a law to protect fucking 17 year olds from the realities of human identity and sexuality. And this is, of course, Ron DeSantis just trying to go harder and further to the right than Trump. And this is how he's choosing to do it. Miserable. Yeah. One of the worst. Really, really one of the worst.

Cool world. All right. Miserable. Yeah. One of the worst. Really, really one of the worst. Cool world. All right. Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday, April 19th. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Yes.

Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Peace. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil.

I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Women's Sports. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit.

Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.