The Daily Zeitgeist - Hospitals Need A Vibe Check, GOP’s Worst New Brain 03.08.24

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

In episode 1638, Jack and Miles are joined by Ethio-American vocalist, songwriter, and composer, Meklit Hadero, to discuss… Meet Mark Robinson The GOP Candidate For NC Governor, The VA Just Backtracked On Their Plans To Ban A Controversial WWII Photo, Making Hospitals More Musical Could Save Lives--Study Finds and more! Mark Robinson, the North Carolina GOP nominee for governor, is off the rails even by MAGA standards The VA Just Backtracked On Their Plans To Ban A Controversial WWII Photo Kissing Sailor Photograph Couple Identified As George Mendonsa and Greta Zimmer Friedman According To New Book Science debunks WWII "Kiss" photo couple's claim to fame WWII’s most iconic kiss wasn’t romantic — it was terrifying #MeToo Graffiti Scrubbed From Sarasota V-J Day Kissing Statue Fact Check: About That So-Called Ban on Iconic 'V-J Day in Times Square' Photo in VA Offices 'Replete with Misconduct': Internal VA Investigation Finds Inappropriate Sexual Conduct in VA's Anti-Harassment Office Annoying hospital beeps are causing hundreds of deaths a year The Hospital Is Too Damn Loud Making Alarms More Musical Can Save Lives How one musician is reimagining hospital sounds Anatomy of a beep: A medical device giant and an avant-garde musician set out to redesign a heart monitor’s chirps To Reduce Hospital Noise, Researchers Create Alarms That Whistle and Sing LISTEN: Ethio Blue by Meklit HaderoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Is that a thing? Or are you just doing, like, beautiful mind type shit right now? Yeah. Like the dumbest beautiful mind shit. 2 plus 2 equals 4. 4 plus 2 equals 6. I've got the John Nash thing but it's like the most

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Old finger That's obviously Shirley Bassey From Goldfinger The titular song from the Goldfinger film Shout out Anoramic View and Asas Loltes for that one. Because, you know, that was like when I was first, like, you know, messing around with making beats. That was like one of the first tracks that I sampled because the song starts off with this wild brass hits. And I was like, oh, my just play shit back then.

But anyway, enough about me. You're trying to make friends with some corvids with that wild brass hit vocalization. Come to me. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a wildly talented Ethiopian American vocalist, songwriter, composer. Her most recent album was named among the best albums of the year by Bandcamp in the Sunday Times. She's performed on stages all over the world. The host of a podcast, radio series, live show. Please welcome the brilliantly talented McLeet Hedda.

McLeet! Thank you. Welcome back. Thank you, y'all. Returning champion. Yes. How are you? I'm really good.

I'm feeling sparkly today. What can I say? All right. We like that. We like, yeah, people don't know this, but we demand our guests sparkle. Yes. You are covered in sparkles. Sparkling.

Yes. I am. How's the weather? How's the weather in the Bay Area? It has been raining and raining and raining and raining and raining. Same, same, same. And raining and raining and raining and raining and raining and raining. And raining and raining and raining and raining and raining and raining. But today's kind of all right.

Yeah, windy. We got a peak of sun. So, yeah. I don't like that the weather app suddenly will be like, oh, yeah, it's going to be a torrential downpour in like an hour. It's not even an hour. It'll be like it's all clear and yet my socks are already soaking from being out for two minutes it's oh you have that wild new ai technology where your socks get pre-wet before before it even rains yeah just to let you know wet socks the worst oh just the worst they just ruin your day anyway so yeah that and i

think i was talking about this i forget where but but when your shoes get so wet to the insoles and they're gushing, that's also one of my most hated sensations. We were talking about that on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack. Because there was a converse shoe that was like, oh, Nike, you're going to put air in the bottom of your shoes? Well, we're going to

put liquid in the bottom of our shoes. React juice. We call it react like no people don't like they did that sounds gross squash squash yeah like it just that's not what people are looking for when they're running around on the basketball court is wet shoes but that's the thing they never made it that wasn't really like the promise you know just more that it would get i don't know whatever that somehow the liquid reacted to your movements. You're trying to bring it back to what the brand intended.

No, the physics never made any sense to me whatsoever. No, no. There's a commercial. This one's with J.R. Ryder from 1994. These new Converse shoes would react juice. They're super light. They're perfect for you. And he comes out.

But then he's just dunking a bunch. It's not clear what the juice is doing. Oh, it turns him into a scary dog. A werewolf? He's a wolf. He's a wolf. That's some game face you got there, kid. Anyway. Anyways. The way we were selling things to people. you got there, kid. Anyway.

The way we were selling things to people, hey, yeah, kid, yeah, you got the react juice and you turned into a werewolf. Alright, I guess that's good for basketball. I respect it. I respect that there's still room for, like, strange looking 68 year old men on TV back then.

You know? Now that would have been Chris Hemsworth trying to get him to wear the... Rather like a retired butcher from New Jersey. You're so right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. McLeet, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we'll be talking about in a little bit. We're going to get to meet a new just completely broken brain has dropped. Freak of the week. Mark Robinson, the GOP candidate for North Carolina governor. And man, just a murderer's row of beliefs that we've got here. Truly. Now, it says a lot when even like the people on the right are like, this guy's a little out there. He may have electability problems.

So, yeah, we'll dive into those. We're going to talk about the World War II photo of the sailor dipping the woman over backwards, kissing her in Times Square on V-Day. I guess it's called V-J Day in Times Square. It is controversial because a lot of questions about consent in that one. Not really questions, just facts about consent that people who are familiar with the picture who, you know,

don't care about things like consent are just like, ah, shut up. So we're going to talk about that because that's been in the news lately because of the VA banned it from their hospitals. And then we're like, psych, we just want to do a, make sure you knew that we weren't going to ban it. And so, right. Just glad you heard that.

Yeah. Yeah. We're going to talk about music in the hospital because hospitals, apparently if they were willing to be a little bit more musical and a little less beepy fewer people would die so all of that plenty more but first mcleet we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are all right i was just searching there's this there's like a new apple plus show called constellation and i was searching

is constellation horror because i started watching it and then there are these certain sounds and you're like wait a minute is this is this sci-fi or is this like sci-fi horror because i cannot do horror movies i can't i don't want to talk about ghosts i don't want to watch nothing about ghosts i don't want to watch nothing about some creepy stuff that's going to give me nightmares or like when i wake up in the middle of the night i think about some kind of no no horror movies so yeah it's constellation horror but is is it horror well i didn't keep watching i'll tell you that the score was enough you're like nope yeah like there are these sounds it's like oh this is a horror soundtrack i then one site said yes and i was out i was like no

no i can't oh wow that's it i can't i can't do horror no horror yeah a lot of talk of ghostly voices yeah yeah i don't i don't like to unwind to that kind of stuff either so where where does uh the film alien fall for you have you seen the film alien i have seen it and horror sci-fi well it's a horror it's a hyphenated horror sci-fi it's a multi-hyphenate i will say that you know it's a little bit more thriller to me yeah you know it's like a lit it's like it's on the other side of the line but i i just get creeped out like i wake up in the middle of the night a lot because i have a four and a half year old and then yeah and then those things they just like like that's not what i want to be thinking about at three in the morning. I just, I don't know.

Yeah. Yeah. Having a young child really puts you in a lot of horror movie settings. Like, cause you're walking around late at night. You don't get as much sleep. You'll wake up and there will be a child standing at your bedside, just like staring at you like, like a horror movie. Like that shit happens to me all the time. Jesus Christ. I used to do that I was checking if my mom

and my grandma were breathing yeah yeah and I would and then I would go back to bed and I remember my mom like she would catch me a couple times she'd be like please it scares me it's super creepy and they whisper yeah are you there yeah you held a mirror up to their mouth and when they fogged it up you wrote red rum

on it what i was just making sure you were still breathing you're breathing gosh it's definitely over some kind of line but yeah yeah right yeah so is it the supernatural like that's what you don't fuck with? Yes. I don't fuck with that. Okay. No. Okay. So you're fine with like just a regular human guy murderer terrorizing people? Like, is that okay? Or is that still horror? Like just morally, you're fine with that? It sounds like? Yeah. It sounds like you're going to co-sign serial killers?

Wow. Okay. wow okay what i'll say is i have stopped watching like all of those shows those like you know human killer blah blah blah true crime it's all about hurting women so like that i have stopped i have stopped but more like uh oh there it is again gotta just noticing how much it's that you know right right right yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. Well, now maybe I'll do this Constellation Challenge and watch it until I go, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, no thank you. Do you like horror? Nope.

No. Yeah. I think it's because I'm just such a, I'm like THC the person. I like to be chill. So anything that gets me stressed out like for entertainment i'm like no no no life is already stressful i need to go to the land of not you know i always find it interesting that star wars is like completely flat lines every time they put

it out in china and one of the reasons people point to is that China doesn't fuck with ghosts. And Star Wars is just like somebody who died just pops up and they're like, I'm blue now. And I can pass along information to you. And apparently the Chinese film going audience is just like, what the fuck? Like won't even countenance it. So I'm just saying a little life hack for people who don't fuck with supernatural things but don't mind a nice little thriller check out the box office performance in china to see right oh right got it yeah

i love it if they're more just like it's really weak writing to be honest yeah you know just like so much deus ex machina kind of nonsense yeah i mean i can see that what is something you think is underrated going to bed early oh like three times a week i've started going to bed at like 8 30 and i know it sounds so so early but i've been on my like three days a week of 11 hours of sleep and i'm just wow oh my god i know what i know i love it you're able to stay in bed that long you can pull off 11 like that that many hours straight of sleep i mean i never used to be able to but once again i will return to the four and a half year old what is it about those little little creatures that just requires so much energy i mean it's all it's amazing everything but

so much energy that like 8 30 rolls around and i'm like i'm i i i i'm done yeah i got in bed at 9 30 last night oh my Oh my God. You can't stay awake. Also, their sleep rolls over you. Yeah. And just like, yeah. So peaceful. They don't have anxiety yet. Yet. Except for young Miles Gray,

who walks over and makes sure you're still breathing. Yeah, he's got to make do. Yeah, I was very, I've always been kind of an anxious kid. Are they alive? Yeah. No, take advantage of that. Take advantage of that. If you're able to sleep 11 hours, god damn.

I know. My hat's off. Just a few times a week. A few times a week. Yeah, if you can get on the same schedule as your kids, that's crucial right yeah yeah i started going to bed at seven like my baby yeah yeah all right fuck it i think it was the two years of waking up 10 times a night that did it maybe i'm still catching up from that i don't

know sure sure sure i feel like my that period just like ruined my nervous system and now i just like wake up at 4 30 every morning morning just like, oh, okay. All right, everything's okay. What is, what's something you think is overrated? High heels. A hundred percent overrated. Don't want to wear them. Don't want to think about them.

Don't want to see them. My feet, like I, at one point I had all these high heels. I just, I threw them away and it was so fun it was like it was like i was like oh this is the time when i actually want to you know burn the trash it was like it was like it really high heels it's too much it's too much so overrated did you snap the heel off the shoe like like wishbone. Like in an act of liberation, you're like, ha! Like, give me another pair. That sounds like it would be a wonderful sense of release.

Yeah. Maybe next time. What are you wearing now? What's your foot game like now? I like fancy sneakers. Yeah. I'm into the fancy sneakers, especially, you know, on stage, whatever. And then boots. That's it i'm into the fancy sneakers especially you know on stage whatever and then boots that's it boots and fancy sneakers okay boots i was talking to somebody who was like

a real like foot like footwear snob in a way that i hadn't encountered where he was like well see the thing is with you with most kids shoes the toe box is too narrow. You need to let their toes spread out. And like most of our shoes, you're like walking in a pillow. You can't like grip the ground. You need like shoes that have like barely any, that make you feel like you're walking barefoot. And it all made sense to me. Sounds like a lot of work. Is that the kind of person who wants you to wear the toes?

The shoes that are like toe? Yeah. He did not. And I asked him a number of times. I was like, but you't imagine a worse thing for a human foot than fucking high heels. Unbelievable. Shouldn't be allowed. This is, I don't know if you see this. This is a video my friend sent me when they went to a parent teacher conference of another parent who had leather toe shoes. Wow. That's real wow those are and i was like they look like if darth vader was wearing those toe shoes like the aesthetic of the shoe yeah i mean it looks like a costume it looks like a it looks like it's like christian

bale's batman like became like dropped lsd and like moved to portland yeah yeah became skin basically yeah well you know i've i like being barefoot so like i'm not like against the idea of like something that mimics that but part of me is like i'll just be barefoot you know like i do a lot barefoot like around the house or just like if i have to go up the street or something i'm not i'll go to the mailbox and bare feet. Really? I mean, yeah. So there's no dog poop in your neighborhood. There's no.

I know how to. I know how to dodge it. OK. I'm nimble. I'm spry. You know, I can do. I can dance around it. But like as a kid growing up, like in L.A., I just was always barefoot, especially in the summer. So like the blacktop, like my feet, like just became accustomed to summer asphalt barefoot.

And I kind of take that now as a point of pride. Although the bottoms of my feet look terrible. They look like Flintstone shits, but whatever. Flintstone shits. Yeah. Wow. I mean, like, you know, the shits. Oh, yeah.

Not there. I just thought there was a part of the Flintstones that my brain had blocked out. Oh, no. But you're just saying they're like the skin on the bottom of your feet is like three inches. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And any time like I've gone to like, I remember I got like a pedicure once when I was working on a campaign with all the other campaign people. Like it was like right after election. It was on election day. We're like, all like all right our work's done let's just we can

that's a fun way to treat yourself yeah yeah it was cool because I'd never done it before and like all these people I was like no no go ahead come on come on they went and the amount of time they spent on the bottom of my feet I was like oh maybe this did they do the sanding thing like the cheese grater on the bottom of your feet where there's just like a pile of grated Parmesan? Yeah, they put a respirator on and like an air vent like they were cooking at like a teppanyaki restaurant or something. You needed one of those treatments where the fish come and eat the dead skin off your face. Yeah, I see that all the time. I'm like, but then part of me is like, is that really good eating on there?

Is that good eating? They just give up. You're their dream. And they're like, geez. You're their dream. Yeah, right. I get some A1 on this. It's a little well done. Salted a little bit before you come in.

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martin luther king on steroids did he really say that that was the first the first half of that quote that i missed i just caught him calling him martin luther king times two uh because again the gop is deploying their favorite tactic of being like what if we got a black person to run as a republican and then maybe that'll excuse some of the wacky nonsense that they're gonna say out of their mouth that's also how like businesses pitch things now it's like this on steroids yeah like that's he's truly being like i think that like martin luther king and uh meets george washington on steroids yeah this guy's martin luther king he's got terrible back acne and terrible impulse

and rage control issues like wait what um but yeah so i feel like you know like every election cycle we get one or two candidates on the right that have just that extra special something you know and by that i mean yeah an absolute freak that was raised on a diet of like facebook shit posts and alex j And well, this cycles freak looks to be, as we've said, Mark Robinson of North Carolina. He's the Lieutenant Governor. He's running for governor against the state's Attorney General Josh Stein. And man, this black man is so maggot out in the brain that he comes off like the real Uncle Ruckus from the boondocks. I don't know if you watch the boondocks, but Uncle Ruckus, like that's him. Okay. Before I run down a list of some of his greatest hits,

I think it's important to remember that these massive culture war grievance candidates do not perform well as demonstrated in 2022, as demonstrated by Ron DeSantis, but this is what the GOP is going with. So here's Mark Robinson on the issues. Ready? Here we go. On abortion, he won't even use the word in public, he said. And when he has used the word, he's likened it to slavery. Voting rights, he believes women should not be allowed to vote. LGBT. Women should not be allowed to vote. He actually believes that. He said we need to go back to the time when women weren't allowed to vote and before all that Me Too nonsense.

And he's already the lieutenant governor. He's already the lieutenant governor. LGBTQ issues, the end of civilization. And has also likened them to maggots. Not very great. Civil rights movements. He said a communist plot to overthrow capitalism. And black people actually lost freedoms. A communist plot to overthrow capitalism. And black people actually lost freedoms.

A communist plot to overthrow capitalism? Yeah. I mean, maybe because towards the end, I mean, you know, Martin Luther King was speaking a little bit more specifically about capitalism. But again, his main takeaway, though, is that black people actually lost freedoms

during the civil rights movement. George Soros, he's the mastermind behind Boko Haram in nigeria the holocaust never happened moon landing fake as hell 9-11 inside job michelle obama is a man music industry ran by satan reparations guess what folks black people should be paying money back rather than receiving reparations. That's weird that like he got the music industry one right. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Right. That was like, I was like, yeah, you know, kind of based on what we're hearing does not sound great. Might not be Satan, the dark, the prince of darkness. But I go, you mean that there is there is that there is a darkness that hangs over the music industry. And I was like, okay, yeah, I mean, a 9-11 inside job.

I mean, I was 19 at one point. But yeah, so this guy turned the MAGA dial up to Jesse Helms on Crystal Meth. And keep in mind that North Carolina voters are the kind of voters that will elect a Democrat as governor like Roy Cooper. But then also Trump will win the state as president. So they aren't always like it's a little bit like less ideological sometimes. And, you know, while he did win the nomination, 35 percent of Republicans rejected him and his terrible beliefs, which is probably more likely to help Democrats down ballot than anything. But yeah, it's just this,

this whole, the black MAGA shtick is just, it just obviously reeks of internalized white supremacy. But since, you know, uh, white supremacists are pulling the strings politically on that side, you know,

they might as well just keep thinking that again, having a black candidate is enough to offset all the nonsense I just listed. Every type of white supremacist we have now. Yeah, exactly. Internalized, outward, white supremacist, curious. There's all kinds that we have. But yeah, like just going down that list, you're like, how do you expect to? Okay, I don't know.

I don't know. I haven't seen Josh Stein's, Josh Stein's What his platform is either But it's just Again, we're just starting to see The new all-stars of the 2024 election cycle Have we had a Holocaust denier Running for major

Office, like this major in office That's pretty Stag What did David Duke run for? That's right okay we had a literal clan wizard you know what i mean so yeah um yeah but i but i guess because a lot of you are like these are things he said on his facebook from a while back uh but either way these all come together to form the oh that we have now. Yeah. So he'll come through with like the watered down Holocaust denial take. I don't know what that even.

I don't know if he's going to be pressed on it. But yeah, this is it's just it's just it is it is wild to see it. Because, I mean, there was also there was another person. I mean, Trump would always meet with these people. But yeah, running for it's not that he's running on that platform, but he'll probably do the thing where he's like, oh, I'm not talking. But I was as old. I'd never said anything like that. You know what I mean, Trump would always meet with these people. But yeah, running for it's not that he's running on that platform, but he'll probably do the thing where he's like, Oh, I'm not talking about his old. I've never said anything like that. You know what I mean? He's like, I'm trying to get to stick to you know what i mean because those things are so unhinged that it's not a person who could like stay focused on like messaging it's just that that is i don't know but i it's like my how many times do i do i end up speechless in a day because of like some wild assault like i was like wait what what yeah truly truly and he was even saying like he's

like you know harvey weinstein and bill cosby are being maligned like was what was his take was a few years ago so he's you know he's he's on the wrong side of everything basically so i you know i gotta love the consistency yeah the he's like, gotta make sure every single thing. Sir. Reparations. Nah. Yeah. We need to be paying money back.

I was like, how? Not even, not even like white supremacists. Getting it exactly wrong. Even they are saying that. You know what I mean? It's like 100% all the way wrong. He doesn't just want to be partway wrong.

He's gonna, he's gotta follow it through to the logical conclusion like this each each stance on each issue is like a logic puzzle for him where he's like no no no no no we gotta go we gotta get every single point of this as wrong absolutely as possible yeah right 100 so yeah this is uh we shall see what will happen in the fall but like i said like having that that that's probably going to motivate some people to come out against him to vote against him but hey i don't know you know it's 2024 we don't know anything right sometimes i think this stuff is about the overton window you know you know that like yeah right exactly just blowing it up

just like make it go so extreme that the people who used to look extreme look moderate you know there's like because that's just like what kind of strategy is that that's the only kind of strategy i can logically think of that would make any of that make any kind of sense and it's much more popular with the republican voter right so they do better in the primary than they're going to do in the general, right? Exactly. Exactly. Because like I said, 2022, there were a lot of wild election denialist, you know, full hardcore maggot people and majority of like, especially the people that like these are Trump's picks, they weren't losing. And I remember at the end of the 2022 cycle,

they were like, what are we, what's going on? What do we do? It's like it's your platform and these absolute clowns that you're running out. What do you mean? What's going on? Have you seen what these people say out loud? Yeah. But I remember there was a point like after 2012 where the Republicans were like, we've just got to like, you know, triangulate and become more moderate because this stuff isn't popular. And instead, they went in the opposite direction and won the presidential election the next time. So, yeah, I don't know.

Like, on the one hand, it's like, wow, they're really digging their own grave. On the other hand, our country, there's some wild shit happening. our country there there's some wild shit happening yeah and it's weird because his campaign website like there's nothing about where like the issues it's just like volunteer events get updates donate meet mark the first pair like i'm just gonna read from his website this is how this is how you get to meet him quote meet mark i was i grew up as the ninth of ten children in greensboro my father was an alcoholic who beat my mother. He died when I was in the fifth grade and I was terrified. Damn. Wow. I was like, he's coming out with that. Like, it's like, whoa, okay. Uh, a lot of, a lot of heavy shit there. But then we go through, there's really nothing

about like what his, you know, like the nothing that reflects just how extreme he is on anything because he probably can't put like on the issues abortion it's not going to be like won't use the word in public right you can't have that but hey there's i'm sure there's still time for the consultants to get in but yeah this is this is donald trump's favorite pick in north carolina um mlK on steroids. Because I think the other thing about that, too, is Mark Robinson has said he does not like Martin Luther King also. So, yeah. Well, I mean.

Again, did you expect any of us? Yes, exactly. I mean, this guy. Yeah, right. He's 100% wrong on everything. Yeah. That guy was a commie, I guess, according to his worldview. Commies overthrow capitalism, the greatest system ever known to man.

That's right. All right. A little bit about the photograph VJ Day in Times Square, a famous World War II picture in which a sailor and nurse kiss on the street following news that Japan surrendered. It was temporarily like there was a memo that went out for the Department of Veterans Affairs that was basically saying this doesn't fit the values of the VA anymore. We now know that this picture was taken like was not consensual. to foster a, quote, to foster a more trauma-informed environment, which is like, okay, where's the catch? That actually seems like y'all are doing the right thing there. And then there was a massive backlash, of course, from the right.

So just to give a little bit more background on the photo, the most widely accepted theory is that it's george mendonca and greta zimmer friedman and she her account of things is that like while that looks like a it could be confused as like a classy kiss from like you know a fella between his special gal yeah it is in fact a headlock and like she he just walked up grabbed her kissed her and this was like happening kind of all over the city which is also why the it's it's gotten this wider sort of reconsider is it reconsideration because there was like on that day sailors just running around like you know kissing groping and like assaulting women and even like young girls and like fighting the cops to fighting the cops like tried to step in they would like fight the cops. So it was just this like horrifying event that is kind

of captured in this photo that people have just sort of romanticized over the years. The VA was like, maybe we want to not, not do that. Maybe not. And of course the right has freaked out. the right has freaked out so jesse waters of course had to weigh in and it's just the wildest shit i mean it seems like it's a clip from mad men yeah we're talking about a photo that is just the history of it because when you talk to the people involved like the guy just came up and kissed me okay here we go. Does that look non-consensual to you, Julie? She doesn't seem to be fighting it.

No. Yeah, no, it's fine. She looks into it. Look at her hands. It's like limp down. She's like,

take me. Right. And she was there when the sailors were returning from war. I mean, what did she expect? I mean, he's an American. What did she expect i mean he's an american i bet you that's not only she paid him back with oh wow uh yeah here's a footnote in that actual

photo his wife is in the background yeah right like the woman his girlfriend yeah his girlfriend that he was going to marry is in the background of that photo. I'm like, what the fuck is it? Oh, okay, George. Yeah. And I love that these somehow they're, they're trying to forensic analysis on a still photo. Yeah. Truly, uh, again, like, cause I think all of it leads back to how, especially world war two is like treated as this, like like the like the one time it's okay to fucking

do war like that's the good one it's the it's the clean war it's the good war yeah and i think anything that begins to pick that apart of course they're going to begin to freak out because then that opens up a larger discussion of what is armed conflict and what's its place in our in our world yeah i also think it's just part of like the inability to reimagine our symbols to like look at the symbols that we that like that the country is kind of built on and actually like think what's really going on here what's the right you know and so it's just a a kind of like it's the same thing that's happening in the last several years with monuments like what does it really mean to like lift these images up and these you know frozen moments in time but we have

to we have to do that work you know yeah no truly and then again we see the resistance to it which is to completely be like yeah no stonewall jackson was a good man right he was a and he was just he was merely on the side of of you know business and commerce that has nothing to do with with with slavery or white supremacy oh gosh like why do we have to begin opening this can of worms and a lot of people like i think she was even saying, she's like, my hand was down there because I was being careful about my skirt going up. Trying to keep my skirt from going up.

Not because I was swooning. That's a man just grabbed me on the street and kissed me on the mouth. And it was just wild too how for the anniversary of that they made them repose for that photo in the 80s. Yeah. Holy shit. 1980. But anyways, so VA officials who that they tried they made them repose that for that photo like in the 80s yeah holy shit 1980 but anyways so va officials like who should maybe be taking things like this very seriously

are now being like uh that that was an error we actually didn't mean to send that memo you weren't supposed to get that which is especially especially galling because, yeah, that was actually we didn't even mean to say sorry, didn't mean to hit send. Disregard my last email. Disregard. Didn't mean to hit send. But yeah, the VA, you would think, would want to be cleaning up their image right now, considering that they're hot off the heels of a scandal in which a whistleblower prompted an investigation into widespread sexual harassment. lower prompted an investigation into widespread sexual harassment va secretary dennis mcdonough the guy who so vehemently wants to keep the photo was specifically accused of helping to shield allegations from the public and congressional scrutiny so yeah that that maybe was why they initially made the right decision but it's apparently not not going to change how much they're just going to keep their fucking head

down. And yeah, well, too much. That's the least she could do. These guys just got back from fighting a war. I think the real story is they were in the street because they thought they were about to be shipped off for the full scale land invasion of Japan.

Yeah. And then they found out that, and then they weren't. So they're like, Oh great. Yeah. We don't have to anymore. It's just like, yeah, there's just so many elements to it that like, yeah, it's interesting how we've enshrined that image, especially to be sort of like this, like this wholesome, like being like, and this is the wholesome punctuation after we've dropped atom bombs on civilians. But then the minute that that wholesomeness is questioned, it's like the language just becomes rapey. It's like the way that it was just like...

What's the problem? Look at her body language. She's asking for it. Aw, she's loving it. Look at her. I bet that's not all she did. What? Holy shit. For real? Yeah. The version of events that Jesse Waters was setting up is that like,

so that's the day that Japan surrendered and those guys immediately got home, like Japan surrendered. And then they just came home from war. They were teleported back. Yeah. Ah, hot damn.

Yeah. Like a couple hours later. And they, and they may have fought or whatever, but again, it's just like this weird logic too, that suddenly that they had to be like, OK, well, if she didn't like it, then the next thing to way to justify it is that people who have fought in a war have carte blanche to do whatever they want. Yeah. Yeah.

Sounds like a good policy, guys. Yeah. Well, we expect nothing less from Jesse Waters. I mean, like, Jesus. Truly. Really. Yeah. Thoroughly fascist. policy guess yeah well we expect nothing less from jesse waters i mean like jesus truly really yeah thoroughly fascist but in this case like i do feel like they're probably i don't know like i feel like a lot of americans are just like don't take that one from me come on that's that's right i've seen that postcard before don't make me change my mind about it. Right. Yeah.

It was in a dang Coke commercial. Was it? I feel like a recreation. I mean, that thing has been so drilled into our brain. Yeah. Yeah. No,

truly. Yeah. Just let it go. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah. McLeet,

your point about just the, the amount, the amount of like neural energy it takes to be like, can I rewire my brain to see this in a different way without it being sort of being like being the embodiment of the sanctity of world war two. Right. It's very tough for people. And I'm sure like,

especially for like these, like Americans are like, but my grandpa was like one of those guys like, yeah. And he may have been a fucking freak too. My grandpa was kissing gals and they liked it okay yeah let's uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about uh music in the hospital we'll be right back i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,

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because for so long it was just putting people off their circadian rhythm and like sleep is such an important part of the body being able to heal itself. So there's been a whole rethinking of lighting in some hospitals, like very, you know, progressive ones, but like to try and give people as much sleep as possible when they're healing, when they're in hospital. Yes, convalescing. But people are also pointing out like sounds.

The soundscape of a hospital is super annoying yeah you know alarms sounding on various devices just it sounds like a fucking casino like a death casino in there it's just beeps loops like ringing and if you've ever been in there like with a loved one it's fucking super stressful. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, I can still remember the sound of, like, an alarm that went off when, like, during the birth of our first child that was, like, terrifying. And, like, I still, like, yeah.

So I feel like everybody has those experiences. People who work at hospitals, like, they hear those sounds in the shower, like in their sleep. Yeah. Wake up hearing those sounds. It's like the same thing when people get like the phantom, like phone vibration in their pocket. Yeah.

You know what I mean? It was like, did it beep? And you're like, no dude, you're just so used to it that like, sometimes you're just getting the phantom ones that your brain's like, I think maybe,

maybe people have that with slack. I'm so glad that we're not like a overly slack based company what's that i think it's slack i think it's like a little like kind of hollow coconut knock is the thing that i've heard oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Like if you were playing a drum kit made of pistachio shells or something. That's the name of the sound cue. Yeah, pistachio drum kit. No way, man. Pistachio kit. Pistachios would just make a good shaker.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's right. If you were a tiny little cockroach playing a pistachio drum kit, maybe. Then that would be bass for you. playing times playing tom sawyer by rush on there but yeah so the omnipresence of beeping alarms in hospitals is actually detrimental not just to the staff but also to the patients who can't properly rest with all the noises and also it just like blends into this like fog of sounds that makes it harder for people who work at the hospital to like recognize and be aware of

because there's just so many of them. Apparently like the alarms are only actually accurate like 15 percent of the time or relevant 15 yeah relevant 15 percent of the time so yeah the desensitization to beeps created by alarm fatigue led to quote a reported 566 alarm related deaths between 2005 and 2010 according to the FDA. And I mean, I'm sure that's not counting every single one of them. Right, right. Yeah. But that's interesting that they're saying like the solution is to have something more melodic or more musical or more, quote, percussive with short bursts of high frequency energy like a xylophone's ping uh but i guess in a study show that that was just like actually it was a little bit more effective than just a

which i i guess i get right like all of the the current soundscape comes from a time when you had machines that could like you're're like, all right, we're going to put this tiny little thing on it. Sound maker thing on the machine and that it can make one sound. But now we're at a place where you don't, you don't need that. Like you can, you could play Tom Sawyer by rush on there. Miles is really pushing for Tom Sawyer by rush.

Is that, is that like patient is dying? I don't know know that's what's kind of hard you know because i feel like melody is so fun i think what i think quincy jones said melody is the voice of god or whatever so to put that in like a medical context i i mean i don't know like i don't know if you want to create a bad connotation or something when suddenly someone's playing. And you're like, oh, shit, like someone's crashing. Yeah. But you could you could like here's the thing I would be worried about is that they would turn hospital sounds into like hold music.

You know how like hold like if you give a company that's like the so who's gonna make it right you give a company like the ability to like decide about music it's gonna be something even more awful like you could actually you could actually like commission some musicians to collaborate with like like acousticians and doctors yeah and make something together that would be kind of interesting that would be super interesting it would create jobs you could have like musicians like djs you know how many out of work djs they're about to be like an entire generation wanted to be djs like you just every intensive care unit has a dj that's just like channeling the information to like create like a soundscape that alerts everybody

but then people are turning up too much and they're not doing their job but i still don't see like as a musician i still don't see how you would like there's no way for it to not be a cacophony because it's so many people it's so many different kinds of information it's it's it's like there's the rhythmic at like you can't actually do it rhythmically because you would be having so many rhythms on top of each other yeah start probably having poly rhythms yeah but there's definitely a way to make better sounds just like i was thinking like a glockenspiel. You know how nice those are? People love those. Which one's the glockenspiel?

You talked about a xylophone. It's kind of like a xylophone, but it's much more like it gets your attention, but it's gentler. Right. That makes sense. Yeah. They have studied this, and they said that sounds with percussive timbre, many of which contain short bursts of Right. That makes sense. Yeah. And they stand out from like things that are loud, flat tones that lack high frequency components like a reversing trucks beep.

I like that. That's the example of the thing that doesn't get our attention. Right. The reversing trucks. You think you'd want to fucking like not like lock that one in the thing that's like gonna could just like back over an entire family of humans i feel like that don't mess with that one you know we've all accepted we do know what that is yeah we're like okay that's that's something backing up but i think maybe we have the space to do that and like to your point it sounds like uh mclean like there are artists musicians that

have been enlisted to like help make things sound better. Yeah. Yoko K. Sen in 2017, an electronic musician who worked with healthcare companies to revamp the soundscapes in hospitals and design new sounds for at-home cardiac monitors. Even back in the 80s, people were experimenting with this. One guy came up with an elaborate series of melodies that would signal different patient problems uh but doctors and nurses ultimately found it confusing like we kind of suspected right this is also like just as synth pop was kind of becoming popular so i'm assuming there was like a lot of just a lot of synth it's a little synth heavy for me. It's like, does it have to be Rocket by Herbie Hancock? Yeah, I'm like, okay, well, yeah, that might be a little bit tough.

It's like, wait, what does that mean again? Beverly Hills. Someone's Axl is full lead. Yeah. hills uh someone's axle axle lead yeah and that idea was rejected by the international organization for standardization but then they okayed another musical strategy with alarms inspired by the mbc chime the yo yo chant from wizard of oz and then it was like a disaster yeah they ended up having to come back and be like so the thing we tried while our head was in the right place these sounds that we chose were quote basically

terrible yeah basically terrible is such a great thing to say about the massive decision that you went with we ultimately went with some sounds that were basically terrible but i don't know like that we this kind of came up recently when we were talking about how like the problem that car companies are having to solve with you know electric vehicles being too silent and therefore dangerous for people who don't hear them coming and so they have been working with internal engineers but also film scorers and you know composers yeah composers yeah they've been working with composers from the world of film to like try and create unique sound signatures so that it makes sense to me that you would do that to hospitals right i mean you could do it

like thinking about the way a space sounds is just a good thing like it is a much less um high stakes environment but have you ever been to a restaurant and it's so loud just from people talking that you can't actually hear the person in front of you? It's like, because they haven't thought at all about how sound is going to carry in that space. And then they created an experience where you're like, actually, I want to get out. Or maybe they're trying to make you get out quickly because they want to turn around, you know, turn over tables. So yeah like there's so much room to think about the way that sound works in our spaces and actually make life more pleasant and save hundreds of lives like right like they're saying in that report because it might not just be like well you know the thing

is we just got to start using ringtones like we used to back in the day like this one can play like my my humps by black ips and then this one can play i'm Humps by Black Eyed Peas. And then this one can play I'm a Hustler by Cassidy. Remember that one featuring Jay-Z? Like that's not going to like versus. Tom Sawyer. But like what sonically makes sense rather than like just beeps and boops. You know, like, is there another way that doesn't necessarily have to be music, but we are thinking of what the sound can be that cuts through, that stands out, that is clinically relevant,

I think was the term that they were using. One of the best examples of sound design that I've ever experienced in a physical setting was when we were in the birth ward for our children, and they had this little harpsichord that played basically every time a new human dropped like every time they're a new baby they would just like play this thing and you would be like ah a new new soul just dropped yeah like a like a looney tunes thing was like like yeah yeah like a really gentle harp sound. And that was like, hey, we just burst another one.

Right. That's so wonderful. Yeah, that was really nice. It's almost like a community building thing or like a, hey, you can do it too. Or like, you know, it's an encouragement. We do this all the time. Yeah, that is one of the most. New baby. Yeah. baby yeah like no don't

do that just and then on the other end like if they went to an icu every time someone dies they get the han zimmer like from inception yeah that's right which you could also do harp too you know just to show that it's it's all yeah just that in reverse with maybe like some whispering in reverse or just to take away that sort of connotation that it's still like it's all a cycle. Yeah, yeah, just that in reverse with maybe like some whispering in reverse. Or just to take away that sort of connotation that it's still like, it's peaceful, you know? It is, like I have had the thought multiple times that like, oh, it's kind of weird that chances are the last place

that you're going to be alive is in a hospital where it sounds, where it's like bathed in fluorescent lighting and sounds like a casino 24 hours a day like that's kind of a weird way to go out but feels like it's like kind of the place that most people do experience their last time on earth so it would be cool if you could just like kind of fix the vibes a little bit you know come on hospitals figure it out yeah vibes are fucking off in here the lighting's fucked up this is cacophonic i hate it we got so many great musicians in this world i'm just saying we got one of them on this show like let's uh let's go

let's get a got any pitch what would you do for instead of a beep mcleet what do you like what's what do you think well first of all there's so many sounds that seem to me like like if you think about it the the heartbeat monitor where it's like it beeps in every it's like a regular thing that's right i don't understand why that's necessary like why is it it should be that it beeps when it's irregular. Here's something to pay attention to. First thing I would do is just cut out everything that is not giving me that information,

that's not giving me relevant information. Because it's not like the nurse is in there listening to it. I'm the one listening to it. That makes no sense to me. So I would just cut a bunch of stuff that was... Or somebody tell me why is it necessary and maybe i'm just not seeing the whole picture that's possible but then i think i mean

i would do things in high registers like trumpets you know those cut a lot right nothing in any bass tones but you could also have a thing where you could kind of choose, you know, like if you were a doctor and you're like, these are the sounds that like, there's some kind of level of personalization. You could see it. Yeah.

And to, you know, like I only know this. I only respond to the sound of a digital cowbell on a 808. That's just all of that. Just turn it into that. Or like, or like people like I could see a lot of

light information like have you ever seen like how fire alarms also flash right for people who are hearing impaired that's also very that we're such visual people that should also happen like okay there's a code blue i want a visual flashing light you know yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Huh. We got, we got work to do. The heartbeat monitor is pretty iconic, but it, it's had a good run. Like the, you know,

it's, it's a sound that has really done a good job. I don't, I don't want to just dismiss it out of hand. It's, it's been putting in great work for many years, but yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, you know, the sound of a flatline i mean nothing yeah that's just yeah that's that's a little alarming you know that's what i'm saying like that's when the like heart rate begins to like uh like rise rapidly or decline rapidly then like give that a sound like to mcleod's point but again i'm not a cardiologist i'm not a medical professional i'm somebody who just loves the sound of a digital cowbell.

Don't be so hard on yourself. Well, look, my license was taken away, but that's because the state board is fucking ran by a bunch of losers who don't know what they're doing. Run by Satan, just like the music industry. Well, McLean, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff good stuff well i got a new album dropping today y'all so find me in all the places uh mccleetmusic.com that's also all my handles m-e-k-l-i-t music

yes yes y'all it's called etio blue the new ep amazing and is there a work of media that you've been enjoying besides your new album i really enjoyed the uh mr and mrs smith on amazon prime the donald blubber did it was really good that was really good yeah what a blast miles where can people find you what's the work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me on the app-based platforms at Miles of Grey. Find Jack and I on the Basketball Podcast. Miles and Jack have met Boosties. Find me on 420 Day Fiance.

Yeah, Josh Gondelman was on. What a, what a, that guy, I'm telling you. He's an absolute freak. He's a freak. A freak. The nicest guy I've ever met. And then also find me on 420 Day Fiance talking about 90 Day Fiance. Is there a tweet I liked?

Yeah, there's a couple. One is from at Jtorch1031. It says, reading way above my grade level did not get me as far in life as I had hoped. Yeah, look, it levels out at a certain point. And then another one is like, this is really only kind of funny i think to basketball fans you know how like in a broadcast you'll see the referee come over to the scores table to like explain what's going on like okay where the play is under review or whatever uh who is this this is jason gallagher at jga41agher posted a picture of that with a ref at the scores table uh but looking down the camera and says uh

hey can i do a titos and soda with extra lime and i'll just close it out appreciate you bro like that bartender boss like you have to bar customer posture he's also got his arms on display he's really like doing the lean flexing the triceps you know i don't know what's up couple tweets i've been enjoying andrew o at the Overdoll, who I think's been on this podcast, Andrew Overdoll, tweeted, Me to my dogs, I'm going to feed you the best food I can so you can live such long, healthy, and happy lives. Me to me, another Red Baron pizza for you, fuckface. Another Red Baron pizza for you, fuckface. Oh, man. And then Zach Dunn

tweeted, yeah, I like West Wing alright. West Wing on the ground with my friends. That took me a second. It's just cute. West Wing. I love West Wing you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien

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and our footnotes footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what's the song you think people might enjoy? I think just right out on the, well, see,

the song that is out from the album, ETO Blue, I was listening to it. So we'll go off to the titular track from McLean, ETO Blue. The track is really dope. I love the piano playing. You feel the Ethiopian-ness, you know, just in the scales that are being used and the saxophone and everything. It's just, for my lovers of music from across the world, I think this is a really dope track for you to get into. And if you're not, expand your horizons with the work of MacLeod. So this is Etio Blue from MacLeod.

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Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline

from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio

app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.