The Daily Zeitgeist - Hot 4 Gators with Jack 'n' Miles 3/25: Boeing, Biden's Billions (for Israel), Trump, Kate Middleton, Box Office

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

In this edition of Hot 4 Gators, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Boeing's CEO Dave Calhoun stepping down (with a big fat payout, most likely), Biden signing a $1.2 trillion spending package for govt. funding (including a nice little bag for Israel to continue their rendition of Stage 9 of "The 10 Stages Of Genocide"), Trump getting a little more time to weasel his way of the trouble he's in, Kate Middleton NOT getting a BBL, a box office update (feat. Sidney Sweeney) and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just

starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.

Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet and welcome to this Monday morning trending edition of

Dirt Daily Night Guys, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and in this particular episode we tell you what's been trending what's been up with us check in it's monday morning for us my name is jack o'brien that is miles gray yep yeah we are yeah all right so far uh correct so far okay yeah no lies detected so this is an episode where we dig into the things we're trending over the weekend that's right and also get to know you a little bit better by telling you a little bit something about ourselves uh by getting into a little overrated underrated so let's kick off should we kick off with an overrated yeah rated yeah okay you want me to

start why don't you kick it off vinitary kick it off vinitary style so i was uh listening to the action boys podcast uh over the weekend and yeah it's the john gabers podcast it's a patreon show it's very good and like a thing that comes up a lot with them is that these movies all like these 80s action movies that I was raised on all have hero cops in them. Like that is a significant genre of public figure. And I was totally prepared for that. That would just be like, all right. So like of the 100 famous people i know probably 20 of them will be hero cops like a lot of the movies just start off with somebody who's

already like tango and cash i think before the plot of the movie even really kicks in they are both like hero well known household name cops essentially because I feel like even the trailers revealed that were like detective blah blah blah one of the most hard hitting detectives on the force it's never just like here's some schlub

yeah I know they think you're a real hot shot but you're still in my department, pal. Like, you know, everybody knows your name and it's just wild. Like,

this is something we talk about on tomorrow's episode with Sarah Marshall from you're wrong about, um, like there, when there's a movie myth that they like really want to be true, they will usually be able to find a single example in the news that they can then like blow out of proportion. Right.

Like there's a robbery, uh, robberies out of control, you know, shoplifting is out of control. Um, the, you know,

there's a crime ring that you should be afraid of. Um, but like we talk about it with Sarah in the context of human trafficking um but it's it's also wild just like that there are no like they want hero cops to happen so bad right it's wild that we don't have like any lasting hero cop figure like there's no sully sullenberger of the police force i feel like the most well-known police are the disgraced ones yeah disgraced and you will hear like hero cop used when there's like a fallen police officer but there's nobody who's just like this guy really like did an amazing job

of police work and busted the crime ring and like did this really brave thing that we happened to catch on camera like never or you'll get a headline like domino's pizza delivery guy like saves child from burning house you know what i mean like it's always like holy shit dude what that guy hero domino's pizza delivery guy but when we see the video of the actual crises the cops tend to be the ones running the other direction yeah yeah there is no real life john mclean you know like yeah that or is it just because i think we're so you i have a feeling it must be like the evolution of like the war hero from yesteryear that we slowly morphed we use that sort of analogy or that example of like a violent man who was heroic and then slowly mapped that onto the police because back then i mean you

know there are plenty of like war heroes like this one guy fought off 20 germans or whatever and like they were household names like our grandparents. It stands to reason that that would have translated to back home. Unfortunately, the police force is a just rotten to the fucking core institution that makes it impossible to sustain. It's just like, yeah, no, every time we, the local news with very little journalistic integrity integrity every time we take a look at them it like doesn't hold up yeah right hero cop yeah

we're missing the world war 2 I was just thinking of that guy Audie Murphy yeah yeah yeah tiny guy who like took out 40 germans solo one guy on 80 germans type story and that was i remember like i remember an older guy like shaming me for not knowing who that was you don't know outie murphy you don't know outie murphy and i was like dude what the fuck are you doing man i'm

trying to buy a book on tantric sex dude what the fuck is this um but anyway yeah you would have made that mistake if you were Irish. That's the first name they teach us when we were born. St. Patrick and Aldi Murphy. Yeah, right. Oh, God. Well, look, we all have cultural blind spots, don't we? My overrated is one of my favorites, James Carville.

What? Oh, Carville. Oh, boy. There's a headline here that he just gave an interview. And my boy, he sat down with the New York Times and said a bunch of old dribble out of his old snake spout. He said, a suspicion of mine is that there are too many preachy females. Don't drink

beer, don't watch football, don't eat hamburgers. This is not good for you, he said. The message is too feminine. Everything you're doing is destroying the planet. You've got to eat your peas this guy's lost the fucking plot he goes on if you listen to the democratic elites npr is my go-to place for that the whole talk is about how women and women of color are going to decide this election i'm like well 48 of the people that vote are males do you mind if they have some consideration dude this he goes on and on and on about this shit he's just it's

just like wow i just again please y'all put put this old fucking creature to bed stop asking him questions he is a he is a sentient alligator from the buskio that you put a mic in front of he's like i got some opinions on females in the politics dude get him out give him an animal planet show where he's going around on a fan boat just you know describing nature that he sees. Or just him on a fan boat describing alligators as female. Oh, that's a female. That one over there? Yeah, look right there. Look right there.

You can tell. That's a female. You can tell by the way she's looking at me. Yeah, you're like, what? Is this an animal show? It just sounds like he's hot for gators. James Carville's Hot for Gators show. And this one won't tell me that I'm destroying the earth and i need to consider them when they're like it's like dude can you can you actually look can you do you understand patriarchy at all do you

understand what like how set in stone a lot of male voting patterns are do you understand like how important the issue like i'm sorry but there are no existential threats in the form of bills and laws that affect men that cis cisgendered men at the moment right so to be like can we get some consideration too like for what you're not oppressed but you're talking about what's motivating like he's so he's so upset at the idea that there are motivating forces that would bring women to the polls or uterus havers to the polls that he's just like okay who's gonna talk about us what about the hamburger agenda it's like what shut up dude underrepresented uh nfl enjoying beer drinking yeah demographic

and the dominant but when that was the only thing you need to do be someone you could have a beer with have a beer with and then you could do war crimes. That's all it took. If you could crack a beer that you could strike fear into the hearts of millions and take untold amounts of life. But, yeah, he said, like, they're taking over the culture of the Democratic Party. So, again, this is like something when as we get like, you know, as we move on and progress occurs and people are fixed you're like oh right james carville's like at best center right yeah it's gonna take a feel like and yeah he's like clintonian democrat yeah and he's still people still point to him as if like what he has to say

is right yeah okay he helped clinton win in 92 yeah that's 32 years ago that's we gotta talk about super predator yeah anyway but that was a female there that gator you could tell you could tell jungle cat uh that's the fish that you're pointing at um i get it anyway but yeah as i said lower the snake nipples that man and he just need to go slither away into his little hidey hole. Yeah. The New York Times still being like, what about this guy? He might have something, a fresh perspective on things. We asked a horny old alligator what he thinks about the state of the Democratic Party. Thanks. Dems in disarray.

Yeah. I mean, he knows they do love to talk about that. And he's the one that will give it to you every time. But again, it's because he's like a hater on the outside. And his opinion is irrelevant at this point. And it has been for a long time. Hate on the outside, gator on the inside. That's what I'm saying.

But we need to put some limitations on how many gator quotes we get from elderly gators. I think they don't have much to add to the discussion or discourse. Alright. My underrated, just keeping it very simple, what kind of animal is this? Videos? What do you mean?

On Twitter? Particularly, what kind of fish is this? It tends to always hit for me. I've linked one in the doc where it looks like a shark that someone has crudely used AI to Photoshop human kissy lips onto. Those are lips and just like trying to like um but it's in fact uh a sturgeon oh yeah their lips can do for some reason is just like a xenomorph yeah like like a mini mouth come out further yeah like it truly a lot of the shit that you find

with this or you know it's just looks like an alien symbiote or you know a koi wearing a skeletor mask but that's just like what is printed on the head for some for some reason but i don't know i like that's nature is uh really like will surprise you especially if you don't so here's my advice don't learn about nature yeah just go encounter it by going fishing or you know uh going on a wildlife tour i don't i don't know but it's i just remember fishing when i was a kid and catching things that you didn't know existed and didn't know, but it's, I just remember fishing when I was a kid and catching things that you didn't know existed and didn't know, like, could

exist. Like, it was, like, conjured from a nightmare. Yeah. And you're like, yeah, no, that lurks at the bottom of the sea. That's just what lives down there. It really, like, in water is where some of the wildest shit and, like, sometimes there's just, like just what looks like a puddle of slime,

but it's crawling toward you. That's the thing that you see a lot. I don't like it, but I do. It makes me feel small and makes the world feel enormous and makes me be like, maybe we don't need to find aliens. I don't like it. Because they're here. I don't like it they're here i don't like it i don't like ugly animals they freak me out um i remember seeing a mud skipper from the for

the first time and like i only knew it from ren and stimpy like as a cartoon thing from like the ren and stimpy show and i was like that ain't a real fucking thing and then i saw like an actual mud skipper and i was like this is a fucking abomination and that's a fish with that can like crawl up into the mud yeah yeah and skip around gaily skip around kind of like one of james carville favorite kind of people to hang out with just a old mud skipper getting out of mud skipper yeah gingrich oh that old mud skipper he hornier than a newborn mudskipper. That old mudskipper. He hornier than a newborn mudskipper. What? Newborn mudskipper.

These are colloquialism that only you know when you hang out with Carvel. But yeah, no, I don't know. Sometimes when I see, like, I do like the majesty of the animal kingdom. the majesty of the animal kingdom uh but i it is it's sometimes like the visuals of them to give me a bit of creeps yeah yeah no no for sure there's a couple that i've been enjoying in the past week that are um i i'm not sure i ever got a consensus opinion on what it was but they just like cast a um some bait into like a little mud hole on the side of a river and just a fucking beast the size of like a small honda civic just swims out of the hole and like gets hooked on and then there's another one where it's just looks like a catfish but then you get to its face and it's just got like the net,

like 15 fangs, like poking out of it. Yeah. Jaws is just wild. Yeah. And then there's like some good jaws style, like shark videos that I'm starting to see that I don't know. You're just coming full circle.

You're, you're embracing your inner child again. I am. It's, it's making me feel young, which I need at this time. Have you gone to the aquarium of the pacific with your kids in the Pacific in Long Beach yes we've been there a

number of times that's a blast yeah i feel like you'd probably like you just go and like knock on a door like is there something i can talk about like sharks kind of tell me about shark stuff really quick hey is there anybody here that uh but no i don't want to hear what you have to say i just want to like talk about sharks like yeah yeah i just need to get some shit off my chest i have about 30 uh questions that are all have you seen this video yeah okay video well you keep showing me like handheld camera phone footage that you took inside the theater when you're watching the mag um but i'm sorry what is your question exactly what where is this thing how do we get one that aquarium tank is uh the that big one when you

walk in and sometimes they're cleaning it and you can see like what how big the fish are next to the humans yeah inside and it's like oh that sea bass could swallow a human if it wanted to right yeah fucking doesn't doesn't make sense easily eat your leg very casually yeah um how about you maz what's something you think is underrated i think we're underrating people who don't know a fucking thing about sports oh yeah in a few brackets for march madness there's there are a couple where people are getting absolutely pieced up by people who are like just pulled in like last minute yeah who are like even admittedly their team names like for their bracket is i don't know sports another one's like i've i never watched college basketball just to like rub it in and these people the accuracy of their brackets is unbelievable yeah like the upsets

that they somehow picked and then like just if they're netting out like 98 accuracy yeah it's blowing my mind and i feel like there there aren't enough studies as to why someone who can just look at a like a fucking bracket know nothing about anything just like maybe essentially like they've heard of these universities and then pick just accurately pick the winners of them i don't know what it is if there's like a wisdom of the uninitiated or someone who is not like you know weighed down by like not like seeing too much basketball or like reading too much analyses about basketball but there's something magical that happens i think and every person who's ever been in like a bracket

like in an office pool or something or like there's always the person's like yeah i just kind of i don't know like i just like this state my grandma's from there and my uncle's from this went to this school so i just kind of rode them to like the end and you're like, how, how is there a way to replicate this? Or is this just some kind of weird phenomenon in our society that we have to deal with? Yeah. It's, I feel like the part partially it's explained by the fact that like,

there are way more people who don't know shit about college basketball, especially now than before. Like I used to be a college basketball fan. I don't know. Yeah. No, I'm just i vibe mine out at the wall yeah i vibe mine out and i'm doing okay um admittedly but there are people who are like i've never i don't know that i never heard of north carolina as being a basketball university and my life yeah oh that's a pretty color holy shit yeah yeah yeah that was yeah i think everyone has has heard that version of like i'm just picking off the uniforms that i

like um and maybe that is a better version but anyway all that to say is i i salute the people that engage with these things and like i'm i don't know if it's driving me mad but i'm more amazed at how consistent this phenomenon is whenever it's like been a World Cup pool fucking March Madness pool anything like that where people who like I don't know anything but like this this is my these are my feelings and they're accurate

yeah I mean everybody talks about that octopus that was always able to pick the World Cup but that octopus was actually a huge football fan so yeah people mentioned that massive football fan and also massive gambling debt that octopus was fucked yeah there's a reason we don't we don't hear from that octopus anymore yeah uh i am ninth out of 15 in my office pool uh right now so in my killing highest performing pool i'm in fourth but i'm

tied with like 16 people in fourth wow it's a big pool um yeah yeah yeah a little over 20 something okay i'm not mad i'm not mad that i am fucking this up so bad um hey aren't you supposed to know stuff about basketball dude dude just shut up man i don't know do you have like a podcast or something no it's about the nba it's about the nba not this crap okay yeah this crap all right uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk news I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church,

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This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back and uh boeing uh finally you know a victory for the little guys uh except, except not quite, uh, the Boeing CEO, Dave Calhoun announced he is stepping down for reasons that should be pretty obvious. Um,

and you know, this is, this might remind you of when this exact same thing happened in 2019, when the Boeing CEO stepped down in disgrace after their plans started falling apart um yeah the beginning of the max 737 drama yes when they first entered our minds yeah so they were like we better get this dave calhoun guy in here to uh fix this thing up get things run in ship shape. If the ship is the Titanic, did a good job. He claimed

in an email that the Alaska Airlines incident was a watershed moment for Boeing and said, the eyes of the world are on us. We're going to fix what isn't working. We're going to get our company back on the track toward recovery and stability.

And therefore I'm leaving. Oh, really? Um, that would not, that's actually not my thing. I'm more of a, like kind of leave a thing broken.

That's already broken type guy. On the way there. Some people took some cash. Some people made out with some cash, but yeah. And some people crashed. It's the other hard with some cash but yeah and some people crashed it's yeah the other hard part it's kind of what so his predecessor dennis mullenberg uh was also forced to resign in disgrace following two crashes in 2019 at one point it was believed that his

compensation would total 39 million uh or roughly 270 times what the company is paying out to family members who lost a loved one in the max 737 crashes um but it's not enough yeah once people like caught on to that yeah it things changed and he ended up walking away with uh oh shit 62 million dollars more somehow because boeing is just unaccountable to anyone holy shit like many of the shareholders are like hey i don't know i don't know if we need to give that guy fucking 62 million dollars yeah yeah why not one day it could be me and i want a golden parachute yeah sail back down to earth on uh as for the ones that could actually be us uh did a little math based off of the 39 million being 270 times what the company's paying out uh quick maths and that means that people were

paid 144 000 uh for it people dying for that yeah yeah their incompetence can they they should be they should come out and explain their math here they're like okay a victim of our negligence that one life is worth 144 000 yeah um now me the person who is responsible for the untold horrors i get 62 million dollars to to go away and well i took the risk of taking this really difficult job in which there's absolutely no liability for me only for the corporation

that I am now leaving and getting paid extremely well to leave. You guys only took the risk of possibly dying in the plane crash. Right, exactly. But anyway, check my boat out. The seven 37 max,

a little bit tongue in cheek, but I figure I got to give it up to the source of this boat. But I like how the outgoing CEOs, like the Alaska airlines thing was a watershed moment for Boeing. And then you find out the FBI has been contacting passengers on that Alaska airlines flight and say, quote, I'm contacting you because we have

identified you as a possible victim of a crime that um first of all that sounds like a scam uh like i'm just like it's not but like if i got hello i'm from the fbi i'm contacting you because we have identified like they need to work on their copy to keep it like one step ahead of whoever's writing the spam emails yeah but yeah so the Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into whether

the panel blowout violated terms of a 2021 settlement that let Boeing avoid prosecution for allegedly misleading regulators who certified the 737 Max. So there were rules from the previous fuck up that led to their previous CEO getting ousted.

And those rules that were put in place might have been violated in this instance where the fucking door blew off. Yikes. Yikes! Yeah.

God. You're always like, yeah, maybe there's some kind of karmic debt here. And it's like, I don't know. Here's millions of dollars to just leave and the merry-go-round continues. Yeah. The payout to the victimsout though to the to the victims

to the families of the victims crazy crazy that it's that much smaller i've also read things are like boeing might not survive without help it's like then that's their fucking fate yes don't fucking don't dip into our fucking pockets being like we gotta prop this fucking company up no you don't let them fall and then you know prop up other non-monopolistic companies that haven't captured regulators yeah but I think it's but who knows because

it is one of two major airline manufacturers like and the other being German they're gonna be like ah man we're gonna have to kinda fucking keep this fucker up, man. Oh, boy. Or no, French. I'm sorry.

Airbus is French. Pardon me. Pardonnez-moi, actually, is what I should have said. All right. Over the weekend, Joe Biden avoided a potential partial government shutdown by signing a $1.2 trillion package of spending bills,

which included more money for cancer research, mental health funding, an expansion of access to child care, and sounds pretty good. No reason to keep going. Oh, wait. Also, $3.3 billion for Israel. But they were just saying that they said

they better watch out or they're not going to be so nice to Netanyahu. Yeah. They said Netanyahu was cruising for a bruising while winking at him. And yeah. And going, no, no, no, no, no. But then be like, oh, shaking his fist. Yeah.

Yeah, man. And also the other really fucked up part about this was that they're banning funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees. As we always say, UNRWA, you probably see that abbreviation until 2025. Yeah. And this when the when the stories first came out about how they were going to pull funding because Israeli intelligence had determined that a group of people working with that agency had participated in the October 7th attacks. Like that, that was a huge blow to the people that are in Palestine right now because they that those are the only people that are providing aid, essentially, like they most of the population relies on this group for food, for aid. And if there's no funding going there, that is going to be catastrophic. When already, even prior to this, people were saying, dude, we've never seen famine, the likelihood of famine, ramp up at a pace that we're seeing right now in Gaza. And it seems like it's engineered famine.

Like, it seems like it's, how is there not like it's yeah oh yeah how how is there not going to be famine if this is the plan right now yeah especially with the new announcement of like their policy that they're saying we're not going to allow any food in right oh um for what reason we don't not none given at the time of the reporting. Yeah. I mean, the reason that they've given is they claimed that, uh, the UNRWA had like members who participated in the attack. Right. That logic.

And like, so first of all, like that quote about like, this is the only way for people to get aid, to get food right now. Um, but like the whole population is relying on that. It comes from the Guardian. There's this article about that claim that UNRWA

employees participated in the attacks. There's an article in the Wall Street Journal that is like, oh no, but US intelligence reports assessed low confidence that a handful of staff had participated in the attack, indicating that it considered the accusation to be credible, though it could not confirm their veracity. That's a big issue, especially

when the reports that we did hear about when they said, how do you know that these people participated? Oh, they admitted to it after being tortured? Yeah, it was torture. They used torture in the interrogation, which doesn't work, I've heard. I was alive for the war on terror and the subsequent fallout

around CIA black sites and the use of torture. And what was the assessment that even the CIA gave? It was a counterproductive tactic and was not an effective means of intelligence gathering right and we're still but we're using that and i'm not you know potentially there may there could have been people that did that but does that actually mean that the entire group as a whole now saying oh yeah yeah because if we're doing the one bad apple thing that we got a lot of we got a lot of things to throw out with this logic right if it's really like oh yeah a couple people a couple people but

the whole entire organization that's been providing aid since 1949 has to now completely like be gutted of funding that does not make sense um but yeah i mean and now the latest thing we've heard is now i think uh kamala harris said something to the effect of like, you know, if they go through with like an invasion or like attack in Rafah, like that, you know, consequences. We haven't ruled out any, we haven't ruled out consequences or kinds of consequences if the Israelis follow through with that threat. But I don't, i'm not sure what those consequences are they haven't really been articulated and when you see aid packages still being pushed through um and funding i am hard pressed to see that these are this is like these are tangible um consequences or at least it's just it's just purely rhetoric and it's

fucking disturbing this is well we're talking about fucking famine. And people are blocking aid trucks from going in. And it's just like, I don't know. That's the stance of the government? They specifically said they're not letting aid in. And this is the only way, based on

credible reporting, this is the only way the people inside Palestine are getting or surviving. And Israel has openly said that they won't allow the aid it's a true crisis yeah yeah and yeah we're just still getting rhetoric just little shifts in rhetoric rather than like real tangible things and it's just like weird because even in like the like the last like over the weekend like Gavin Newsom's like suddenly like, I'm actually for a ceasefire. And like other people have been like,

I'm actually for a ceasefire. So it's, it's just like really, it's grotesque to see politicians playing politics when they see that they're like, Oh, that's not a, there's not a popular stance to have,

which is to be like, I don't know, let, let them do whatever they want. Even if it's at the expense of innocent life. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be back.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted,

just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like,

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Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. And we're back. And today is a big day for trump he's doing court in the new york hush money case where jury selection was supposed to begin but kind of everything's up in the air following a

massive document dump belatedly delivered by the feds uh but in addition to that one trump's 454 million dollars is due and if he doesn't pay up attorney general letitia james will uh be cleared to start seizing his assets and his lawyers have said it won't be delivered up right yeah but here's the thing. Just now, it's been reported that he got a bit of an extension. What? He got 10 more days. He just got from an appellate court. He was just granted a 10-day extension. As long as he puts up $175 million first, you can get a 10-day extension, and then you do have to follow through with the appeal or else no go. So I don't know, a bit of a lifeline.

I was, it's my friend's birthday. And I was like, Oh, your birthday is the same day as when Trump might have to give up all his money. And now like, God damn it.

They just put, it was everything. A fucking joke here. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Oh yeah. Yeah.

I mean, honestly, yeah. I mean, like I was just reading about that. I'm like, what the fuck? I thought we were anyway,

but I shouldn't be surprised because he's a, he's a little snake man who's able to wriggle and writhe his way out of things. Um, this has been his entire career is like doing wrong and then just screaming at the top of his lungs at anybody who's, uh, thinking about showing him consequences.

Um, he spent Sunday railing about judgment from a morning post about how he should have zero fine because judge Arthur Anger and is grossly incompetent and corrupt, uh, to bashing Fox news. Obviously the liberal Fox news, uh, uh to bashing fox news obviously the woke liberal fox news uh for not discussing the ridiculous

nature of the ruling to whining whining after midnight that the state shouldn't be allowed to take away and sell off very successful properties and assets that took me years to zone build and nurture into some of the best of their kind anywhere in the world when i have done nothing wrong nothing wrong um why should i be forced to sell my quote babies yes call them his babies um which oh my god like real kids are real disappointed they're like you've never even referred to me you referred to me as some kid yeah but your your inanimate objects are babies yes let, let's be real. They have more value than you ever will, Eric. We're seeing him get back to that schedule that he was on where you could see the gaps

where another person would be sleeping and they're getting smaller. He was up after midnight railing about this and then just woke up at 7 a.m. and was once again railing about this. Right. Just went into shutdown mode for a few hours to get some, let one half of his extremely smooth,

uh, adult brain to get some rest. But yeah, I don't think this is gonna like sink him in any way. Like, I don't think he's actually going to be poor after this is all said and done.

Probably not going to change many people's opinion of him, but it does seem to bring out the thing in him that I don't think is his supporters' favorite thing. No. There's the, like, i'm a billionaire i like

i'm above it all type shit right and like when he's able to bully other people on their behalf like that i think that is the calculus that like gets them excited in their mind but when he's just like being like whining about being victimized like it yeah and the only anger is about his own money like i feel like that can't be the thing that gets them excited to like vote for this guy no it'd be more effective to talk about how it's preventing him from making the country great again or something right but he keeps harping like i have to sell my babies they want my car they want my golf course you're just like you just sound like fucking i don't know like it's like steve martin and the jerk it's like i don't need anything except for this i need this lamp and i know i need this too like you're just

it's it's hard to relate to and again donald you gotta know this as an america as a i guess you know outwardly perceived wealthy american um if america doesn't think something the one thing america doesn't think is cool it's being broke right you know that's like that's woven into our fucked up culture is like oh my god you're broke no like don't talk about that like i don't want to hear about that yeah and i don't know i don't know yeah again i don't know how motivating it is it's again like to your point it's not going to change people's opinion be like oh no but it's it's your your you're losing momentum by keep talking about like wow my my millions of dollars wow yeah but i'm a billionaire

i don't know it's just not effective not going to be effective but right we shall see i mean that i mean like we talked to like i think last week you know the small dollar donations are drying up yeah um and so that on some level that does indicate that people are less likely to be like when he goes out with, you got to help me. They're trying to ruin me. I need your money now. And they know that this guy owes like almost a half billion dollars. And like, yeah, probably not.

That's not, I don't know. I'm seeing that as that's not motivating people. If suddenly there were all these small dollar donations, I'd be like, holy fuck. Yeah. Yeah. These people are fully in on this. Like they don't like they they see exactly the world as he does but yeah tough to tell if it's the it's drying up

because he's actually already taken them all for everything they're worth or yeah um but yeah all right so kate middleton appeared on camera in a video statement on Friday, I believe, revealing that cancer was found during her surgery. So as we talked about, you know, she announced early on in this whole saga, I'm going into the hospital for a surgery and I'll be in recovery for like some time and like out of the limelight. That surgery apparently found cancer and so she's been undergoing preventative chemotherapy. She did stop short of looking directly into the camera

and saying I didn't get a Brazilian butt lift you motherfucking ghouls but the implication was clear um and also like uh you know we should point out that she doesn't have cancer it's just it's kind of a technical thing they discovered cancer when it was removed she's being treated preventatively but all the headlines are like she's been diagnosed with cancer and that's not technically true. And probably not the best thing for her to be reading in a bunch of

headlines. Right. Right. Oh, right. Cause at first I was like, what does that mean? But I understand that there's a technical nuance there rather than be sure I

have been diagnosed with this specific cancer versus we saw something we'd had to remove and now we need to take preventative measures. Yeah. But I mean yeah it's I remember when I saw that headline or like first come up I sent it through to our like group chat like for everybody who works on the show and I was like oh boy well yeah it was the most human thing that it could have been yeah um because I remember early on it was just sort of like it's it's some it's maybe it's salacious or it's

something to do with her health and but my god i mean it's the like for the people who are like out there peddling sort of these like full-blown like i've got all the tea like this is exactly what's happening this is about it's there's a lot of revisionism uh going on too there's also more op-eds that i've uh then i've can remember seeing where people are just straight up like i'm ashamed i fucked up i'm sorry i'm embarrassed i mean to a certain extent i am too like just by thinking of like because at first you know it's like this fodder you get, and we have this thing with being humans and where people we perceive as being quote-unquote celebrities

that they're like, I don't know, dude, whatever. It's like, for us to fucking talk about whatever it is. And then, as it narrows in, it's clear the announcement wasn't coming out because there was something to do with how she wanted to relay that to her kids, and you're like, oh my god, is like the most human shit ever yeah yeah

and yeah and like as fun as looking at photoshops and things where you're like reminded again you're like nah like this is just it's a combination of this person having real life struggles and also the palace not knowing what the streisand effect is right um or something particularly bad at pr um the yeah i mean we both called it out as like a possibility is like well it seems like there's a health thing happening and she asked for some time and then nobody is granting her that time and then i also was like but this like this feels like there'sruder film, the way people are treating this Photoshop. That hurt walking. Got sucked in.

So yeah, I'm ashamed of the way I got fucking sucked in. And it just feels like we talked about the Otani thing, the internet will take it to the story that would be the most like mind-blowing like move the most clicks you know right right right like that just becomes the reality until you fill it in with all the details so yeah and also like how how movies inform that too like like even being like oh yeah this thing uh it's this movie like that's what's happening the thing the plot of this film is what's happening it's a gone girl situation or it's dave or it's this other thing yeah and yeah it's but again it's like really it's interesting because with charles they just put an announcement out they're like

the you know the king has cancer they've been diagnosed with cancer yeah um and so like i think there's so many people being like well why didn't they just do that with kate or whatever and blah blah blah it's like well where she's at in her life and what she was probably again trying to how i couldn't even begin to try and understand how like how you want to delicately explain that to like your young kids um is one thing but then like once that fucking photoshop fiasco went down yeah it it just like intensified things to a degree that truly like uh yeah we left earth we left there for a moment we did leave earth for a little bit and i think that is probably part of the appeal is people want to leave earth right now because it's uncomfortable here um hey another way that people like to leave earth

is by going to the cineplexes and yeah they went this weekend in slightly higher numbers than expected to see ghostbusters frozen empire yeah which made 45.2 million dollars you know we all know that the real money's in the actcto Cooler sales but that's not bad for you know for this particular movie and based on expectations although it should be noted that it's actually like our writer

JM was pointing out that all female reboot of Ghostbusters that all female reboot of Ghostbusters that all female reboot of Ghostbusters that's all-female reboot of Ghostbusters. That all-female reboot of Ghostbusters. That's how you do Trouble Win. That actually did better than this. Right.

And was treated as a complete bomb. And this one is being treated as like, well, it's better than we expected. Pretty good job, guys. Oh, wow. Patriarchy is a hell of a drug, isn't it? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

This one with my with my don't don't slog don't slag off my dan akroyd now yeah i uh a friend of mine went to go see it in like the like 4dx have you seen one of those have you seen a movie and that shit like spit on you a little bit yeah yeah like the fucking seat shake she like sent me like a selfie video like as she was watching it it was fucking throwing her ass around like wow and she's like it's fucking snowing now in here there's i was just getting a play-by-play it's like it's all smoke um and i'm like maybe that's one way to watch it um but again the but even her review is tepid at best. Yeah, the reviews seem to be pretty mid.

There haven't been a ton of great Ghostbusters movies at this point. No. It feels kind of like Terminator. Right. We had a couple classics, and then And then they

quit it. Yeah, just can't quit it yeah just can't quit they just can't quit the g the g busters the other movie that uh was released this weekend that didn't do quite as well it only made 5.3 million um but it won the internet was this new sydney sweeney religious horror film immaculate in which she plays a nun. Um, and the, the reason it got so much attention,

obviously anything Sydney Sweeney right now is blowing up because like her being attractive has like some somehow become a internet or like a political issue where like feel I can't quite get my head around like what the right wing take on this is it feels like they're like yeah you don't even want us to look at her boobs but then like they're also there's like some

weird white supremacist stuff that's like you actually shouldn't be into her and yeah it's it's really confused like they just go to bed right wing yeah they really need to take a nap it feels like um because i remember they're like oh yeah the boobs are back in town and they're like and we're back baby conservatism is back because finally the blue blue eyed blonde haired buxom actress is is the is what is normal and we don't have to look at these other freaks anymore i remember that was sort of like the initial take

after that snl yeah appearance yeah so this movie really received a lot of attention because the role is could be read as sort of upsetting to the right intentionally attacking right-wing values um and there is this tweet uh from our at aurora faced who tweeted libs saw how the anti-woke crowd embraced sydney sweeney as their new darling and right away had to shove her in this blasphemous satanic feminist pro abortion anti-life movie degrading Christians this movie also debases Mary Mother of Christ don't bother watching

um and so it just assumes a level of like that it takes like five days to yeah um conceive produce uh cash edit edit release a movie um but it's it's working as marketing the neon uh the distributor released a t-shirt with sydney sweeney's face and that quote down the side of it

so um i mean is yeah is is her is she okay she's in back-to-back bombs right now i know yeah i don't know i know that that people were saying that like actually the madame webb thing was actually very shrewd on her part because she was basically she was in madame webb yeah really yeah as i did not realize that yeah yeah yeah she's in madame webb too wow that's that's how hush hush the whole thing was she was one of the characters in madame webb and a lot of people were like why why do that why are you doing this. And a lot of people were like, why? Why do that? Why are you doing this? And then, but people were saying it was a career move that basically getting closer to Sony Pictures,

I think she's going to be Barbarella, and she's going to have some other really big leading roles. You gotta fucking eat one before you can take the big swings up there. Wow. Just memory hold

that like she was you you were i just sincerely shocked when i just said that you're like huh i just had i i had totally missed her in the supporting role and maybe that's because i've been brainwashed by the woke media to not appreciate how hot she is and notice her you know i think that's probably what happened so i blame i blame npr um yeah but i blame npr but yeah she's like she's a setup move i mean i guess yeah i think i think if we have barbarella was like one of the the bigger upcoming films it's kind of funny that there are like all these headlines that are like sydney sweeney says it was just a business move that she was in madam like that she needs to explain like a movie that tanked

so hard that they're like sit yet hey so like why did you do that movie explain yourself right yeah it's not don't don't say that during the press tour for the film oh yeah just first of all i was only in this shit for my career like this just sucks but yeah barbara is coming out you heard about in 2022 that shit's coming out i'm gonna be in it so you know keep your eye out like i i captain anyone but you i think did pretty well the um yeah so the rom-com with the Powell, with the video where they're like being cutesy about like, it's my movie. No, it's my movie. That was brutal.

That movie made $214 million. Oh my God. Yeah. So. Hey man, you're up, you're down, you're up, you're down. I'll tell you that. But yeah, Sydney, yeah, I take it. You're going to be fine.

Just hope the Barbarella thing does make me a little bit hesitant because we're doing so many reboots, so many fucking reboots that I don't know, man. Like the ghost, people can't even get jiggy with the Ghostbusters anymore. You know what? I think I'm so, taking it back to the beginning of this episode. I think I'm so 80s movie brand. Brian, the editor, was pointing out that in the trailer, Sidney Sweeney is wearing like glasses and plays kind of like a nerd. And I think my brain is so affected by like those movies that in the way that, you know,

take the glasses off and they're like whoa she's pretty that actually happened to me with her wow i i'm sorry i'm gonna need glasses removed and a shake of the hair to confirm that that is sydney sweet yeah the hair has to be in a bun of some kind hold back the glasses come off yeah whoa i always make fun of the people in the superman universe for not recognizing clark kent as superman but here you are out i would be the first person to be like it can't be him he's wearing glasses and his hair is parted on the other side oh so she's a spider man yeah you're watching the movie friend okay okay yeah just watching the movie out loud yeah oh city sweetie i i do every time she appears on screen i have to point her out like you're driving and you see a cow you know or like a punch buggy yeah do people still do that

punch i don't know punch are we still punching that? Punch buggy? I don't know. Are we still punching each other in the backseat of a car because we saw a Volkswagen? Yeah. Is that still a thing on road trips? I mean, I'm trying to keep it alive with my kids. I punch them every time. Yeah. They punch you and shit while you're driving.

Like, hey, hey, not in the ear. Don't open. What I say, don't open hand slap me right on my ear. That's very dangerous. A kid went for the wheel the other day while we were driving on the highway. Like Trump on January 6th. Alright, those are some of the things that are trending

on this Monday, March 25th. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show talking to Sarah Marshall from You're Wrong About. Really fun episode. So we will talk to you all then. Until then, be kind to each other.

Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Get your flu shot. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,

Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Change the way we consume women's sports. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.