The Daily Zeitgeist - How To Coup With John Bolton, Is The Seltzer Boom FLAT? 07.14.22

Episode Date: July 14, 2022

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 245 episode 4 of the daily zeitgeist day production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into american shared consciousness and it's thursday july 14th 2022 said that a little like aziz what's going on july 14th oh you know it's national know, it's National Tape Measure Day. Hell yeah, man. Shout out the Noble Tape Measure. Also, National Mac and Cheese Day. Okay.

You think Mac and Cheese? Not big. I feel like Mac and Cheese is probably appropriately rated. You know? Right. I don't need... I feel like they're... Mac and Cheese restaurant. Yeah, I don't need that shit.

Like, it's a solid side. If you, if your main course is not getting the job done, is not going to like stick to your ribs, you can go mac and cheese and like, it adds a little extra, but I do not need a mac and cheese restaurant. Mac and cheese is just, it's, I feel like it's perfect. You know what I mean? Like I'm never mad when it's there. I'm like, oh, there you are.

Hey, I love you mac and cheese. But. I'm like, oh, there you are. Hey, I love you, mac and cheese. But I'm never like, where are they at? I think it's all contextual, right? Because like in certain family meals, like it has to be there culturally in some places. Like you got to have the mac and cheese there. Yeah. I feel like it's also gets fucked up more often than people probably like it's like, oh, you can't fuck that one up. But you can.

Oh, you can. Frequently do. do yeah not you in particular the people in general so that is one of my mom kills kills it on the mac and cheese and i have her recipe and it's one of the very few things that she made really well that i'm able to you know replicate everyone okay it's been described as like heroin by somebody who has done heroin wow like it wasn't like a complete they were like this is so good it's like heroin i was like well heroin don't say how good heroin is around my children but i appreciate the compliment i like andy cohen i knew show. It's like a warm blanket inside. It was Andy Cohen. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, a.k.a. Apple Jacks. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

It's Miles Gray. You know him as Hideo Noho, but maybe because he was in Spain, you call him Javier Barzdem. Salvador Balling. Great. The Guernica, which I saw for the first time. Fantastic piece. And the mayor of Plaza Mayor.

Okay. Shout out. Shout out. What was the Guernica one? The Guernica. Okay. Yeah. Good.

I just want to make sure I had that right. I just want to make you say that again out loud for the record. Shout out to Spain, who I'm sure we've just gained a bunch of fans. Oh, 100%. Oh, yeah. And they, I mean, very quickly, like, you cannot take a picture of the Guernica. And I'm like, damn. Part of me wish I had, like, those Ray-Bans where I could be like, got it.

But it's not like I'm going to look at my own photo of the guernica yeah i'm so moved by this useful although so uh i just went to a work of art that is the opposite i feel like it is specifically designed for taking pictures of and that is yayoi kusama's infinity Mirror Room. Have you been there? I mean, I've only seen thousands of pictures of people in there, but yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I went. It's like a closet with mirrors on all the walls.

That is basically what you are inside of. But then you look at the pictures and you're like, whoa, that was cool. It photographs way better. Yeah, it photographs incredibly well. Shout out to my namesake, your boy Kusama. Shout out to your namesake, your boy Kusama. It's your boy Kusama. wrote a book called Cover Story that is a very dope look at NBA culture and influence via classic NBA magazine covers available wherever fine books are sold. And he's the host of the new NBA podcast Running the Break with CJ and Alex

with yesterday's guest, CJ Toledano. It's Alex Wong! What's up, Alex? what's up alex what's up guys how do they decide those national uh whatever days by the way like when did that start because there's one every day i know i'm pretty sure i'm here no i love that because there's always something honestly i think you just submit it because there are there are ones that are so out of left field that have like no significance aside from the people who decided it was like a significant day to celebrate like you know staplers or some shit although i don't want to slag off staplers i think massively important don't you watch your mouth when you're talking about staples yeah but

name the last time you used a stapler though three days ago all right never mind all right never mind let's right, never mind. Let's move on. I got a six-year-old and a four-year-old. They think staplers are very cool. All right, next. So happy National Stapler Day, whatever it happens. But yeah, there's a day for everything.

And when you read the description sometimes, it'll even tell on itself. It's like, so-and-so decided that this needed to be a holiday when their golden retriever did a backflip off the back of their rv and i'm like yeah yeah and sometimes you can just when it's completely invisible the origins you're like oh okay so what industry decided that this was national bullet casings day or whatever yeah it was national it was national fried chicken day last week i believe or a couple weeks ago and i'm just always confused like are we in the sixth like i feel under pressure to like celebrate that like i eat fried chicken a lot but am i supposed to go eat that when it's a holiday when it's a national day i feel like if you're you know if you already honor the dish then it's like it's like look like, look, you're already in the game.

You don't need to do ceremonial celebrations just for the optics if you're living that life already. That's what I think. Yeah. Okay. No, no. I'm with that. I'm with that. It's so fascinating to me because I feel like this is something that has just popped up.

Or maybe it's been around forever and I'm just noticing it because I feel like someone's celebrating a national holiday every day. And it's really confusing to me. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it used to be the territory of like the most annoying person in your office who is just like looking for something to talk to. National water cooler day. Hey, hey gang. Did you know what day it is?

I don't know, Steve. Did you know what day it is? I don't know, Steve. But now because we are all that annoying person looking for shit to talk about of social media that like our society is completely designed by the marketing industry and they're just like what if we gave every day a thing that allowed us to bring attention to stuff and people talked about it on their own and our podcast was like yes please yes please and don't forget folks national 20 or january 20 or july 23 is gorgeous grandma day yes what are you supposed to do with that information this is just all i want to know yeah that's that's you know just a shout out a gorgeous grandma in your life i guess there you go all right alex we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first

we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things that we are talking about today. Coachella, night seven, just another banger as we got more details. We got a real spicy meeting where everybody was just shouting at each other. Trump literally got a White House aide like sneak his boys in the back door and then like the people who actually work at the white house were like how the fuck did you get in how did you get in here like one of the aides was like oh shit i just saw rudy giuliani and like called her boss and then everybody like came running it's like great it was it was like a having a child and they're like unruly friends that you try not to have around or like sneaking

in through the bedroom window but anyways in this case it almost led to the cooing of the nation a soft coup a dumb coup but a coup nonetheless. Somebody's FaceTiming me. I've never been FaceTimed by somebody who I don't have them in my phone. I didn't even know you were allowed to do that. That's an attack. That's an attack on me. We're going to talk about the hard seltzer boom. It has officially gone flat.

Thank you. There it is. So we're going to talk about that plenty more. But first, Alex, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Yeah. So mine is, I was looking up one of the searches I did earlier this week. It just said Lyle Breaking Bad. I guess I was watching Better Call Saul and I was looking up this obscure character named Lyle who's the assistant manager of the chicken shop. And this is just something that I like to do in terms of when I watch TV shows or movies,

especially when I just think of a show that I watched 20 years ago. I don't know if the two of you ever watched Lost when it was out. That was one of my favorite shows. And once in a while or like something like more you know popular maybe something like the sopranos you know or the wire things like that once in a while i'll just be laying in bed at two in the morning and think of a really random character and the best part about it is there's these dedicated wiki pages to these shows and i will just read their character history from like season one

to season six and just give myself a refresher of the life of these fictional characters and it's just i guess this is just something i like to do just dive into these fictional universes wait so what did you learn about lyle the assistant manager of uh yeah so i was really can because like he popped up on this latest episode of Better Call Saul, which is like a prequel to Breaking Bad. And I completely forgot... They brought him back?

I completely forgot that he had this whole story arc. So I just wanted to check in on when he was hired, when he was fired, his highlights and lowlights and things like that. And I've completely already...

I've completely already forgot what I read from like Monday. So that just goes to show you how much memory I retain. I thought it was just fans being like, yo, they should bring back Lyle. Like, wasn't he like 13 or something? He's a child. How the fuck did they bring him back without him being like, hey, it's me, Lyle. Listen, it's TV, man.

They make the magic happen. They've done something with de-aging. Like, there was a breakthrough in de-aging. Have y'all watched Hacks? Yes. Yeah. The, like, young footage of Jean Grey, like... Jean Grey?

Or Jean Smart? I was like, hold on, hold on, hold on. She should play Jean Grey, though. She's amazing. The most powerful mutant in the universe the de-aging is i mean she might be a mutant because of how dang good they're they they're able to just like dh her my wife was like wait so was she a famous stand-up and this is like real footage because she really like they they've nailed it what's that what's that scorsese netflix movie that one kind of looked like shit to me the aging was terrible on that yeah so it was distracting

was there a leap forward and by the way they spent like 250 million dollars on that to get that de-aging technology and i was like all right can we just give up on de-aging because it's never gonna work apparently like i guess pesci looked so somewhat like young in some of the things but like de niro looked like he was you know should be working security on the polar express for like he just like looked dead-eyed and weird i think yeah you don't think gene smart looks good in the like as the young i think it i'm just saying it to me i still clock it as being like edited by computers so for sure but not just like deductively where i'm like well this can't exist so therefore most be computers but like i think the benefit to those clips are they're already

like aged media so like making something from 80s vhs look clean is much easier than like shooting someone in like 4k and being like make that shit look clean so i think the challenge is a little bit different just to put on my old production brain for a second and but in that sense like because i don't know if you even saw stranger things this last season they did a lot of young 11 stuff and even then i was like that looks a little that looks a little uh computery but it nonetheless it looks better than you know what we've seen in the past for sure what we're accustomed to yeah so wait how'd they do ohio like what because did he look old he's the assistant manager he's assistant managers at at Las Palos Hermanos.

Right. But showing him in Better Call Saul, did he look much drastically different than the memories? No, he looks the same. He actually looks the exact same. I feel like Better Call Saul is the type of show where they're not that crazy on the de-aging. I think they feel like the fans understand this is a prequel,

so we don't need to pay of just like you know pay 250 million dollars on lyle and you know throw it in your face yeah and also like they've had like the help of baba odin kirk just like suddenly getting in like incredible shape after that's right for his other roles and like mike's character the actor who plays mike he just looks like he's 70 all yeah all the time so it's not like you need to make a big difference there right yeah yeah well that's why i'm glad to see lyle i remember clogging him as like somebody who actually looks like they have nailed the casting of somebody who works at a fast food restaurant. It's like they actually went into a chicken spot. Yeah.

They just found the guy and they're like, yeah, we're just going to typecast you. Speaking of age, one more thing about this. I just found out recently that Ray Sehorne, the actress who plays Kim Wexler, she's 50 in real life. I swear I thought she was like a 32

year old yeah she really reads 32 for sure like yeah i mean like on some level i'm very impressed and like i'm like man like that is just a perfect you know human specimen but like the bob odenkirk of it like you you hear him talk about like what his past five years have been like. And like, you know, he's got a staff that comes and works on his body with him like he's LeBron James. And like, you know, so when it's a full time job that pays well, I feel like I get it. You know, like so that is that's what's possible. And it's interesting to like see what the limits of capitalism and limits of capitalism and that being human will and vanity can do. No, I think that's such a great point because I've always told people if I had the money, I'd get in real good shape.

I'd look great. I'd hire a personal trainer, have someone scream at me every day because I'm not the type that can just self-motivate myself to go to the gym. My exercising is biking, a lot lot of walking a lot of cardio but like i don't know man i hear people and like even have friends who have like personal traders and stuff and i'm like man i gotta devote my money somewhere else i just go to the gym for the culture i actually don't lift but i just like like gym culture and just the conversations with people. Just people watching? Yeah, just people watching, getting to know people. And he keeps asking me to sign up for gym memberships so I can give him the guest pass. Like, they already banned me from there.

You're my downline. You're my downline. I need you to. Because you just walk around, hands on your hips, sucking your teeth. All right. Okay. Which kind of squat are you trying to do there? Because it's not like, not any type of squat I know.

I'm here every day. I don't do squats. What's your name, Rick? Oh, Michelle? Okay. I do go by Rick when I'm at the gym, actually. So, it's helpful. Alex, what's something you think is underrated?

Something that is underrated, I want to say, is not having an important job. So, I guess I should explain this a little so you know i work i work in a while yeah i work in sports you know you guys have have this successful wonderful podcast and like we're in this media space you know i'm not going to speak for you guys but like nothing that i do is that important okay like the worst thing that ever happened is like oh i'll have a wrong analysis about where kevin durant is supposed to go and i was at a bar last night with some friends and one of my friends brought her her partner over and i never i met him a few times

he was a super chill dude like you know we we get high we grab drinks he's like one of the chill dudes and i'm like i finally asked him got to know a little bit i'm like what do you do he's like i'm an icu doctor and i was like icu nurse and i'm like holy shit i was like damn like just from like meeting you a couple times i wouldn't have never thought that was your job and he started telling me about all the different experiences he's like oh yeah he's just casually mentioning he's like oh yeah the other time a woman came in and we and you know she pulled a pocket knife out of her purse and then you know she was gonna stab me like like it was just another day on the job like me saying oh yeah i woke up today i recorded a pod with you guys and yeah i'm gonna move on and i'm like how do you separate these two things and he's like when i walk in that door

and in the icu i do my job and then when i come out of there i have to separate it like i'm not gonna carry that with me and it just made me. Like, I'm not going to carry that with me. And it just made me realize, like, listen, I'm not trying to put down all these, like, these are very important jobs, like, especially, you know, in the pandemic and things like that.

But it just made me realize, like, how comfortable of a life I live and a lot of my colleagues and all of us live with the fact that, like, we do jobs that are really stupid. We do jobs that didn't exist, like, 20 ago so so i think that i think that is really underrated in a way of that it's such a privilege to have a not important job because at no point in my life in my 24 hours 24

7 do i ever need to be like an icu nurse and have to like split work and personal. Like this is just how I am all the time. I consume sports. I get paid to do things in the sports world and that's it. And so I think it's very underrated if you have a job that doesn't matter that pays you. Yeah. There are some industries where the stakes are incredibly low and everybody treats it like the stakes are incredibly high and important and that like that is actually i'd say the norm would be like there's even a thing there's a thing called sarah's law i think it was i think sarah was like an academic and they were in any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake. That is why academic politics are so bitter. And that feels

right to me and appropriate to a lot of places that I've been in my life, is that like the places that have low low stakes people are going to be be very intense and i do love podcasting because i there's not a single person in podcasting other than you know maybe like one or two who is like this is life or death out here i think we're all pretty much aware of the yeah and i'm not i'm not saying like you know like the stuff that i do you guys do is not important but like i kind of would classify all of us as kind of like in entertainment in a way right like yeah do these shows to entertain listeners and like i'm a huge podcast listener and i can see the value in that it's funny you mentioned you know people who, basically take themselves too seriously

at their profession. Like before I got into sports in my 20s, you know, I had a business degree. I worked at an accounting firm for like seven, eight years. So I was around those people all the time. And they were just, we were just here auditing companies,

you know, meanwhile, like stuff like Enron is happening. And I'm like, oh, I guess none of us really do our jobs at the end of the day. We just show up to work and pretend we look at a couple of things, you know, check a couple of things, but then it's like a little nudge,

nudge, wink, wink with the execs at the top. And we just keep it moving. And like that, that really like that period of my life really just made me like devalue kind of how I looked at work because I I feel like in my 20s, it was always like,

I attached my self-worth to work. And it was just like not a healthy thing to do. Like every time you hung out with like friends and stuff, it's like, what do you do? How much do you make? You're getting promoted and stuff. And it's like, all that stuff is so stupid. And like, it's like, I take my work very seriously,

but it's like, I think it's really healthy to just have an understanding. If you're not doing something that's actually quote-unquote important like don't take it that seriously yeah the most cutthroat people i've ever been around are like interns at abc news and like interns at miramax like you know it's like you have to make yourself indispensable or you're right right and they start speaking in languages it's like you have to make yourself indispensable or you're right. Right. And they start speaking in languages. That's like, have you joined a cult?

Like, I don't get it. Is it like LinkedIn speech? Like, I'm so confused. Like, like the way people talk about work sometimes is just like hilarious to me. Yeah. And I think it just shows how successful people have just like fully swallowed the like hustle pill to be like that's all it is that's my that's how i define my existence yeah like that's the actual worst thing you could do for your life yeah yeah i used to i used to hashtag rise and grind as a joke on on ig right like just

to like kind of mock but then like people started celebrating it with me like like people would be like oh hell yeah we yeah they're, we rise and grinding at the gym and all this stuff. Oh my god. I used to do Live, Laugh, Love for a really long time too. But then people started loving it. And I was like, oh, no, no. The joke has been ruined now. This is not good.

This is not good. But the grind culture is hilarious to me because there's working hard and just working smart like i'm not breaking any news here and it's like people just want to work hard and they don't want to work smart yeah like it's it's really confusing to me and it's like working hard becomes people's like entire personalities and i just it's like these like yeah generational habits that you have to like shed because like like to your point of like our job didn't exist 20 years ago like half the time i have like anxiety thinking about like what my

grandparents like my like world war ii japanese grandparents or like my black grandparents would be like that's not a job yeah and in my mind i'm like you're right because from all the stories i've heard from y'all it's about running yourself ragged. And that's what you called work. And, and part of me is like, am I, so I think a lot of the times we were like, am I still honoring that level of physical destruction in the act of working? And yeah, it can be, can be a bit of a head fuck. Yeah. My parents, my parents still like, you know, I think maybe until recently didn't really still understand what I did. Cause I came from a very traditional business job,

which they understood a nine to five, you're working in a company that they know. So what I did when I switched to sports, especially when I started making like, you know, decent money, is like, I would make sure all the checks get sent to their place. So they'd be like, you have mail. And I'm like, oh, open that for me. So then they would see I was actually making.

No, but like, for like a five-year stretch they literally like they they literally did not believe when i told them i was making money like covering sports right yeah like it was just something that they could not fathom because like immigrant parents you know you know they came from hong kong like they just couldn't believe it so like yeah no it was a very difficult like like process to like convince them that i was actually working yeah like it was it took a while for me to go from like making youtube videos to like doing that as a job for companies from like yeah now i make videos for like this magazine and it's like but there was no money when you were doing it i'm like that's because i was doing dumb videos like this is a job skill like that you can do and they're like okay all right i guess

i'll believe it when i see the videos yeah it's just a good thing my my in-laws are very impressed with my they're uh both korean immigrants and uh they totally get the value of podcasts and uh have believed in the the vision from day one. Just like so confused. But also like they were never like, you have to go to law school. They were just like, you should go to law school. So basically you have to go to law school.

And I didn't. So here we are. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. we are uh let's take a quick break we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7m films and shekinah church and we're the host of the new podcast forgive me for i have followed together we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.

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So, you know, I think there was a whole economy of people just like writing stories about, you know, getting off the internet, quitting Twitter for like 30 days and all of this stuff. And, you know, I live here in Toronto and we actually had like a, actually across Canada, there was like a nationwide service outage last Friday.

So like, actually there was like no access to online for me for like half a day. You know, my friends and I, so there's two service providers here. I'll keep it quick. One of them was down, the other wasn't. So, you know, we were just all around the city. People were just at the right side. Yeah, yeah. So Bell and Rogers. So then Starbucks, Starbucks was like with the other wasn't so you know we were just all all around the city people were just going down yeah yeah so bell and rogers so then starbucks starbucks was like with the other network so

every there was like just 200 kids outside starbucks stealing wi-fi and it just made me realize that day like i have a bike app that i use i couldn't use so i had to like take take take the streetcar instead i was pulling up uber eats on my way home from work and i was like oh i oh, I guess I can't order Uber Eats because I don't have it. And I was like, the reliance on this is just insane. Like I had meetings that were set up, you know, friends were trying to reach me. But it just made me realize it's actually the opposite. Like we got to appreciate how much access we have to the online world more versus hating on it. Because I think you guys, the topics that you guys talk about, and obviously you guys are familiar with the online world. It's like, I used to be envious of people who are like, I don't own a TV or like, yeah, I'm not on Twitter at all. I don't do any of that

stuff. Now I'm like, this is just part of our lives and we got to embrace it. And if you don't like what you see on your Twitter timeline or your IG tiktok whatever it is there's tools you can mute people you can create lists you can mute words i just think when people talk about they want to quit social media you're just not using social media smart enough because i've never had i've never had an issue like i'm very i'm always online just because of you know the sports world and the job and the industry that i'm in but i'm like i've never had burnout and like i've seen all the shit i've seen the world crumbling the last like five years you know checking in on the u.s politics and you know all the stuff that's happening around the world but not a single day have i ever felt like oh man i need to get off social media so no more anti quitting the internet

and social media i think you're like very overrated You're lucky if you said you looked in the hell's eye and you're like, no, but I did. Didn't fuck me up. Oh man, because it fucks me up constantly. And I think probably the nature, you know,

like if because of like having to talk about news and what's happening every day, like I don't, unfortunately, don't have the luxury to curate what I look at because I need a holistic understanding of what's going on and I can't like sort of avoid certain things. But I, but I, but I do get your point.

Like there is, there's the good and bad of it. And those tools are there. engage with social media a lot of the time is to be like, you know, you just, you have to open that door where all the noise is coming out from. And you're like, I got to see what's happening in there for my job. And you're like, okay, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Okay. I take that. No, that's fair. That's fair. And I think, I think it's just like personal approaches. Yeah, for sure. Because like, I'm, I'm, I'm on Twitter a lot. And like, I just don't, I don't engage with people. Like, I'm not there to have conversations.

I have a decent-sized following. People want to talk about sports. I'm just there to get some jokes off. Right, right. It's like, you know, I think it's just... But then I pull up and I'll pull up Twitter after six hours and I see two sports writers just engaged in a 70-tweet thread over some hypothetical scenario.

And I'm like, I know you two have well-paid jobs. Like there's no way you got to spend your time with this. So it's like, I don't think we need to be extreme about being online all the time or quitting social media entirely. I do feel like there's a middle ground

that people can strike. I just, I just get really annoyed when people are like so proud of themselves for like being on Twitter for 30 days. I'm like,

I'm like, that guy who like jumped guy who jumped offline for a year after Trump got nominated was just like, I actually just moved to the woods. And the New York Times was like, whoa. Exactly. Can we actually study you in a lab?

Or the personal essay economy of people who write about what their life was like. And it's like, oh, so you actually read a book finally like it's like congratulations like we can do both right yeah yeah man i will say that like the idea i i didn't know that story about like half toronto losing internet access i like i i just got real jealous of that like that sounds like exciting and like a fun event if like all of a sudden half the internet... Granted, I wouldn't be able to do my job and taking care of our family would be a lot harder, but I don't know.

Sounds cool. No, I was trying to think of what was the most minor inconvenience for a person in this city. And I think I landed at like uh somebody probably like negotiating to sell a pair of sneakers on like facebook for like months and they finally set up a meetup on like the friday morning and then it just didn't happen like they could not contact each other and somebody just didn't have each other's info and now that pair of sneakers is gone i was just trying to think of what was the dumbest inconvenience people would have ran into that day all right let's let's hit some uh january 6th hearing information i mean it's more of the same more of trump being basically like just

a drunk person a horse in the hospital a drunk drug person in the White House, and everybody just being like, oh, no, he's with his bad friends. We've got to stop this. Yeah. Phil, Andy Dick got back in here. You know how bad of an influence he is. It's real Andy Dick vibes. Yeah. like what coordination or what the communication or connections were between like the violent,

you know, extremists we saw and like how they may have been in contact with the White House and just sort of the general path to like this, like this quote unquote rally. So we heard from people like the former spokesperson of the Oath Keepers, like a regular MAGA guy who did some crimes because he was just listening to what Trump said. MAGA guy who did some crimes because he was just listening to what Trump said. Former Twitter employee who was like, I was telling them for weeks that this seemed so bad what I was seeing on Twitter from a content standpoint. And it just seemed like we weren't going to do anything about it. of it were just to sort of paint this image from the moment trump realized that he had exhausted all of his options in terms of trying to like rat fuck an election win out and realizing oh i think i have to shift to like mob violence so they point to this one day on december 18th when again this was when it was clear there's real no like the legal paths have dried up and he had a cool party with the four horsemen of horse shit uh had sydney what's cracking powell mike flynn disgraced general who was you know obviously lied to the fbi and was later pardoned uh the former ceo of

overstock.com and rudy giuliani and they all basically took turns getting in Trump's ear about how they could prove that there was this election fraud. And it was like there were there were actors outside of the U.S. and there maybe was corruption with Democrats and this, that and the other. And nothing was really sticking. And during this meeting, a bunch of like the White House lawyers heard about it, crashed this party, and it just turned into like an all-out screaming match because they're like what are y'all doing here what are

you telling him one guy was like telling one of the lawyers he's like he's like you don't he's just he's like you've done nothing blah blah blah like you've been you've you failed the president and the lawyer's like who do you think i am he's like you're pat cipollone he's like i'm not you fucking idiot like i'm this other guy shut the fuck up and it got to the point where like even mike flynn like stood up got in a guy's face and then this lawyer was like yo you better sit down or it's gonna be a problem and then mike flynn sat down wow so all of this yeah and the conversation when you like listen to the like account of it it's just very much like the the, the White House lawyers are just like, I don't know, man.

They were talking about like Chavez and like Venezuelan voting machines and shit. And we just kept being like, what evidence do you have? What evidence? And they just kept being like, you're not fighting hard enough for the president. They were like, evidence. I don't hear evidence right you're you're a coward who stands yeah but like mr president you need fighters you need fighters mr president as mike flynn kept telling him because he's saying you need more flunkies who are just going to you know make up magical laws there is an interesting moment where, as this argument was going back and

forth, the Oval Office, this is an interesting moment, quote, at some point, the meeting migrated to the yellow oval room in the White House residence where Trump served the group Swedish meatballs. Bern, who is the former CEO of Overstock.com, was, quote, nonstop housing meatballs. He ate so many meatballs. End quote. One person familiar with the gathering told the Washington Post. There, the fighting continued. We're fucked.

What an aside. This guy was non-stop housing meatballs. What does this have? I think you should leave, Sketch. I know. He's like, you're not going to tell anybody how I was housing those Swedish meatballs, are you? And then M-Dash, he ate so many meatballs. It's such a great.

This is my favorite detail revelation thus far of the January 6th committee. And you know that quote came from some guy who was in a frat yeah it was non-stop housing meatballs like i can't imagine that quote from coming from some like lawyer person anyway so anyway this basically after all that happened it was clear to trump okay the lawyers don't want to help these people who are telling me there's like all these cool conspiracy theories they don't seem to be panning out. And it turns like maybe we just need to get more people on the to D.C. on the 6th to maybe physically, you know, intervene. And this is when he had the tweet talking about, you know, the Peter Navarro has this like report on like the fraud and how it's like mathematically impossible for me to have lost.

on like the fraud and how it's like mathematically impossible for me to have lost and then he says but don't worry there's gonna quote big protest in dc on january 6th be there will be wild he tweeted that like in the few hours after all this shit went down in the oval office so they're showing this timeline of like they got together they had this screaming match on how it could be solved it got a bunch of Guy housed a bunch of meatballs. Housed a bunch of meatballs and was like, you know what? I need to signal to the goons that January 6th is the day. You know how he says, stand back and stand by. Well, now you have orders to be there January 6th.

So as they go on with this, they also bring up the fact that one of the organizers of the rally was applying for permits with like the park services for like a, quote, static event. Like this was just going to be a rally in one place. There was just going to be speaking. And that was it. It's over. No other like movements or anything like that would would happen at this rally. But behind the scenes, clearly, everybody in the administration knew that the plan was go there. Clearly, everybody in the administration knew that the plan was go there. And then, you know, at some point, Trump was just going to say, hey, we should just we should we should march on the Capitol, y'all.

And this was an interesting tweet that the organizer of the rally texted to the MyPillow guy, Mike Lindell. She texted, quote, This day is only between us. It can it can also not get out about the march because I will be in trouble with the National Park Service and all the agencies. But POTUS is going to just call for it, quote, unexpectedly. And they point to the fact that like as documentaries and things showed, a lot like the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, they had moved towards the Capitol like even before Trump spoke. Like they knew where they had to be once the like the march happened. So they would be at the very front of like this confrontation with the Capitol Police and these other people who were at this rally. So, you know, the way the January 6th committee is sort of laying it out is saying, you know, they're willfully mischaracterizing what this event is going to be to a maybe have less protection at the Capitol, because for allents and purposes the main thing was just going to happen at the ellipse and that was it and that would allow for like lighter security on the capital meanwhile these other like extremist

groups could coordinate like where they wanted to be and how they were going to enter the capital and as we've learned in previous ones he wanted to be leading the charge like straight up like washington crossing the delaware style just like be you know with his with his horses just like you know go going down there so yeah it's pretty wild it's wild i mean like you know and it's it's kind of hard to square like who knew what when because most people observing were like this is gonna be bad on january 6th yeah there was plenty of analysis that seemingly didn't lead to like, you know, physical, tangible results in terms of like physical security at the Capitol. But, you know, all in all, just, it continues to paint like just how,

how much, you know, coordination was going on and how premeditated many of the things are, which I think anybody who saw what happened that day was like this shit just didn't happen right but as a fun aside i just want to point out john bolton mr war the warmongering muppet himself he was on cnn arguing with uh jacob with jake tapper jacob we can call him jacob we're not happy with him jacob tapper jacob tapper uh just about saying like you know it's uh pretty wild like basically going on about was it a coup was it not a coup how do you even define what a coup is and then john bolton sort of like um actually is his way into being like yeah i did some coups um and so let me just write this for you donald trump looking

at for donald trump it's a once in a lifetime occurrence. I don't know that I agree with you to be to be fair with all due respect. One doesn't have to be brilliant to attempt a coup. I disagree with that as somebody who has helped plan coup d'etat. Yeah, not here, but, you know, other places. It takes a lot of work. And that's not what he did it was just stumbling around from one idea to another ultimately he did unleash the rioters at the capitol as to that there's no doubt but not overthrow the constitution to buy more time

to throw the matter back to the states to try and redo the issue. Okay. As someone who's, you know, done a couple of coup coup d'etat, I like how he speaks of it. The way he referred to coups is the way that a foodie will refer to something in a different way that you're like,

oh, damn. That's a different level of knowledge. Oh, they know how to pronounce crudita. Yeah, take your pick. Crudite, as I call it. Take your pick of, there's a few people who are like, okay, so he said he planned a coup. Let's check out one of the ones,

like which one could it have possibly been? And it's like, well, it's too early for like Iran in the 50s. And then like, it probably, this sweet spot here in the 50s uh and then like it probably this sweet spot here in the 80s is where he may have a shout into saying like yeah i was in the room uh talking to people about how to do that not so much there or right there but right around here this region here yeah yeah so yeah this is just i just like that even in the commentary of it there's just like more like gross american issues like as somebody who's planning to overthrow governments before in the sake of the military industrial complex this wasn't a coup and that's a disrespect to

the real earth fuckers like me it's like the way he took offense to it right yeah i would i would say there's a point he a point he is making there is like well no like that when the cia wants to overthrow government they just like start killing people and like it's very much more precision operation this guy's a dipshit without any sort of practical knowledge of like how to do this sort of thing that's definitely true but it doesn't change the fact that he was like trying like he to just disregard the fact that he wanted them to hang mike pence is pretty i don't know i'm not i'm not sure what he like what basis he's using to be like he just wanted to put it back to the states it It's like, he said that Mike Pence maybe should be hung. Like as people were trying to hang.

we just played a clip of that. Right. Well, I mean, everyone's doing their best to obscure what happened, especially when you're someone who worked in that administration. Like, yeah.

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I added the flat, and I want credit for it. I nailed it. You all saw it. I'm going to mail myself that headline so nobody can steal it. Anyways, I did not realize this. I've been observing the hard seltzer boom from afar but it really you know night 2019 2020 2021 we hard seltzer sales were going up up up yeah 2022 comes around people are back out there this felt like maybe the the summer that there were the most people out and just behaving like they normally would,

you might have expected it to keep going up, and instead it fell. Boston Beer had to throw out millions of cases of truly hard seltzer in the fall. I mean, to be honest, that shit tastes bad, though. Does it all taste bad? There's so many drink i haven't drank since 2015 and i'm not like interested in it but i am curious about like what this boom like what

has caused this boom and what like what because it's like malt it's not it's not like a vodka soda which is what what i think people are looking for from it it's instead like a vodka soda, which is what I think people are looking for from it. It's instead like a malt beverage. Well, yeah, because that's how they get around the liquor laws, right? Right. But I don't know. I mean, I'll drink it on occasion, but I never got to the point where I'm like, yo, let's get fucking clobbered, fam. Like, I was not into the seltzer like that i don't know like alex what was

the vibe was what were the seltzer vibes up north you know what i'm like the worst person to talk to about this because i just go out hang out i just drink whatever's in people's fridges or what they to me i'm i'm a follower not a leader in that situation have you ever had the urge have you ever like when you're like, oh, you know what? That's in the fridge. Let me try this. Do you ever go, that's a little bit all right? Or you're like, nah, this shit is not.

No, you know what? I drink, when I open a fridge, it's the can design that gets to me. So for all the designers out there, you know, I pick based on the design. Yeah, yeah. Not the actual alcohol. This one's called horse shit flavor, but I just on the design. Yeah. Yeah. Not the actual alcohol. Yeah. This one's called horse shit flavor, but I just love the design. It's like very minimal.

It's like a Goya painting or something. I think like, honestly, it started off as like the, it was super easy to drink. You know, it's just like you, you pick it up.

It's got light flavor. People were like, it's healthy because it's clear was like, I think sort of like the weird subconscious trick you did to yourself when you drank them. And then after a while, like I felt like there were like three ones that were like cool flavors to drink. And then everybody fucking showed up. Like even Topo Chico's like literally hold my beer as I enter the fucking seltzer wars. And everybody had an offering and i think it just got i just got flooded and like because everything kind of

tastes the same it's like well i don't know man then it's all kind of the same to me that was my experience with it like i just got such a great example of like the growth over anything kind of like just the problem with capitalism is like they have a good product and they're like okay well uh we need to show growth so we're gonna enter the flavored beverages market we're gonna enter the hard seltzer just like trying to like grow in every direction we're gonna do a line of toys for kids it's like what what the fuck are you talking about the the super chicos super kids but like i mean that all happened because coca-cola bought them like five right yeah and that that completely just changed the trajectory where they went from like this local

thing that like i felt like annoying people in like highland park were like dude topo to now being the you know the in seltzer or yeah carbonated water yeah i don't know it it honestly just feels like the the it just lost its luster after a while and people like the tried and true ways of being inebriated and yeah the atlantic was like hey maybe this has just always been bad and no one noticed because we were all going slightly crazy during the pandemic and i think there's something i think there's something there i think there's something from the pandemic we're gonna look back on and be like huh yeah no that was bad that wasn't a good thing that we were all going through there i think all it was was it offered a new thing to put in a cooler at a party yeah and then i they tried to do that shit at restaurants and stuff i

would see it on menus and i'm like what the fuck for this like why would you go out to drink something like if you're at a bar to then drink a canned thing that tastes like nonsense. But that is very that is strange to have a product that is like popular. And then when people try to give it to you in some context, you're just like, what? Yeah. Ew. No fucking way, man. Like, I guess it would be like a pizzeria, like havingjon or something like on the it's like why is this hard yeah no one's no one wants that no one wants to go out for and then pay for a low energy drink

like that doesn't like beer on tap sure like whatever beer like we're i think people are societally used to doing that but i think because seltzer became like the fuel of like your mini like covid turn up parties right yeah maybe it's just a thing you want to move past and you're like i'd like a drink where a human being put the ingredients together in front of me i don't know anyways the death throes will be embarrassing they've just released something called awesome sauce bun length and it is a seltzer made using hot dog water so it'll be bad they'll they'll be trying all sorts of shit and it'll go it'll go badly i'm not gonna lie i went i went to trader joe's and i bought a pack of dill pickle seltzer because i all right man it was so stupid looking

and then i asked them because now like now that i know like they kind of got to talk at the register i'm like i'm like yo what's good with this and they're like honestly we just saw we were just talking about how we needed to drink that later like when our shift is over and the other person came from the other register like oh did you get the dill pickle seltzer they're like yo have you had it before i'm like no they're like yeah we're trying to we're trying to try it maybe it could be bad it it honestly tastes like like a cucumber it's really uneventful. And I feel stupid that, again, I fell for the marketing. Well, Alex, it has been truly a pleasure having you on TDZ. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

Yeah, I'm on Twitter at Stephen underscore LeBron, Stephen LeBron on Instagram. If you want to make me explain that name, I could. I can do it in 30 seconds. Please do. I signed up for social media when I was still working at my accounting job. And my goal on social media at first was just to tweet during board meetings and stuff, and just embarrass my company. And I obviously did not want HR to find that. And on the day that I was signing up for social media, there was a very clickbait headline on USA Today.

LeBron James was doing his first stint with the Cavaliers at the time. It said, Cleveland's LeBron suspended 50 games for steroids. And when you click on it, it is a minor league Cleveland Indians pitcher named Steven LeBron. And I was like, this is perfect. Over the years,

people think it's some kind of amalgamation of Steph Curry and LeBron James or something like that. And I always try to tell them there's absolutely no meaning. I always still get a kick out of PR people emailing me, calling me Steve. I really do not blame them. Hey, Steve-o! Yeah, hey, Steve. I've gone

to events where I'm on the list as Steven LeBron. I'm just like, yeah, Steve here. But like, it's my own fault. I never I never changed that up. But you know, it's, I feel like it's good to not have your, your real name online as you know, check out, like you guys mentioned up top, running the break with CJ and myself. You know, it's an off-the-court NBA podcast. We talk a lot about stuff that's taking place away from the basketball floor. And if you don't like basketball, you know, just subscribe to it and just, I don't know, press play, whatever's good for the algorithm. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, so one is actually there was a video

that was put out of a Team Canada basketball team. It was an under-23 team, so they're all, like, born, I guess, in the late 90s, early 2000s.

And it's a video where they showed them things from the early 2000s. iPod, MSN Messenger, LimeWire, a photo of Britney Spears, and me being 37, it made me feel really old because they had no

idea when they put up the graphic of the MSN Messenger what it was. Someone was like, is this Napster? Or is this something that you guys use? And then there was another basketball player when she was shown the photo of Britney Spears. She was so confident. She's like, yeah, I know. That's Shakira.

So it's just amazing to me to see things that I followed in my childhood and teenage years become things that the next generation is completely not familiar with. I guess I didn't really enjoy that video, but that's the one that I picked. It's good for the

millennial outrage. Miles, where can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. You know about Matt boosties, you know, about four 20 day fiance. Also check out Lords of soccer,

the FIFA podcast that I helped produce. It moves along. And we actually had to do a little bit of update because, uh, two people from, you know, involved with FIFA corruption got, you know, uh, actually their cases dismissed by the Swiss courts. Oh, lucky for them.

So, but yeah, podcast is great. Please check it out for all fans of true crime and footy. Some tweets that I like. Let's see. First one. Again, I just I love the construction of like if i text you blank emoji it means this this one is from at pope awesome the 13th or at pope awesome xiii says if i text you and it's the flag of norway if i text you the flag it means nor fucking way nor fucking way stupid and then

another one at pleasant P-L-E-A-S-4-N-T tweeted you should be able to see people's health bars on zoom yeah just as a concept I'm like yo let me see your health bars real quick

how much health energy you working with you need it how's your armor level at? I need to catch one of those bouncing hearts or whatever the fuck they had in Zelda. I need to restore. I need a restoration to my health bars. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying.

Bubba at Ratio These Nuts tweeted, You just disrespected a former Subway sandwich artist. Oh, shit. And then The Volatile Mermaid Onoshi Twint tweeted, Practice self-care. Take a walk. Ride a bike. Paint a picture using the blood of your enemies, befriend a wolf pack to do your evil bidding, cast a curse by the ancient willow in the enchanted forest, meditate, heal. Which I just thought that was a good take on a very common, thought I knew where it was headed, genre of tweet.

thought I knew where it was headed genre of tweet I think there was actually some good advice buried in there as opposed to the normal self care hippie head up your own ass woo woo bullshit you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist

we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Myles, what song do we think people

might enjoy? Okay, so TikTok continues to just open my eyes. It's just so funny how on TikTok there's so many tracks that are just sped up or slowed down versions of like past songs that were popular like 10 years ago you're like oh shit it's so different the slowed and reverb version uh and i saw this one clip of uh like it was just like

shots of like denny villeneuve like cinematography but it was set to that M83 song, Solitude. But the song is slowed and reverb version. So you got to check out M83, Solitude, slowed, reverb. And you can only get this on SoundCloud. But the song is like so much more dramatic in this way. And I was like, it's beautiful. So yeah, check this one out. M83, Solitude, slowed and reverb for that TikTok rain. All right. Well, we will link reverb for that TikTok rain. All right.

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